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Illinois Adventure # 1308 "Cahokia Mounds"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มี.ค. 2014
- The remains of the most sophisticated prehistoric native civilization north of Mexico are preserved at Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site. Within the 2,200-acre tract, located a few miles west of Collinsville, Illinois, lie the archaeological remnants of the central section of the ancient settlement that is today known as Cahokia. Cahokia Mounds has been recognized as a U. S. National Historic Landmark, and the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) , in 1982, designated Cahokia Mounds a World Heritage Site for its importance to our understanding of the prehistory of North America. Cahokia Mounds is managed by the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.
It's crazy not a word of this is taught in our public history classes. Wow!
I'm teaching this right now.
-a public school history teacher
It’s wrong, just like many actual lies we were taught.
@@brandonalessini3713. Good for you!!!
@krissiebelhamri1459 Applause! Well Said! I grew up in Ilinois, anything I learned about the First Americans my European Ancestor robbed from I.had to search diligently for outside mainstream education
you missed something. I learned about Cahokia in fifth grade. I remember because the pictures of the place excited me and I went and found a book on it. lol.
I grew up in Illinois. 1972-1996. I didn’t find out about these mounds until two minutes ago on the TH-cam’s.
(Jan 2020)
Did you know the rest of the world has no education on indigenous native Americans. I wonder why they aren't taught about us in school ?
They are far older than what we are being told, many of them 12k+ years old--later re-purposed by subsequent peoples. Hancock has mentioned this several times and is confirmed in Indian tradition and legends. There has even been recent scientific evidence to confirm this as well that has been dated to that time period. A great book I recommend is: The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America: The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up by Dewhurst. And of course all of Graham Hancock's works with the caveat that you don't believe everything he states, especially the spiritually and physically dangerous Ayahuasca usage he recommends.
@Oftin Wong Are you kidding me, your comment doesn't make any sense, and doesn't even apply to what I stated. There is way more evidence than that, that is merely one of the latest articles, one of thousands of pieces of evidence that corroborate with its findings--thousands upon thousands. You must be trying to cover it up like academia or you are far too ignorant to be making a comment about it. Peer review is a system that was created to eliminate truth--these people are brainwashed by the universities and become zombified parrots regurgitating only what they have been taught, which is mostly lies. If you don't know that by now you have a lot of learning to do about what is going on. There is an ongoing documented cover-up 100% proven that has been going on for over a hundred years by the Smithsonian and academian gatekeepers--the peer-reviewers you so adore. Again, I recommend that you read Dewhurst's book The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America--he will clue you in to reality and wake you up from your stupor that your are currently in. All of Graham Hancock's works are mandatory as well for your education and he will tell you the same thing I'm telling you now.
I've been wondering how every where else got pyramids. I see why cause they call the mound's
Well thank you because the only pyramid is in Memphis so I kind of felt like we should have some also. Knowing this is exciting and hope to hear about lost treasures.
Its crazy that as many times as Ive been here as a child, I didnt quite understand the magnitude of it. I dont think anyone who lives here does.
Because they were all enslaved or killed by the Ger-man. This is our shit they stole and good from us. The people of this land we're documented as having copper colored skin or black. Many different hair textures as well. Question is why hide it? Answer is they'd have to pay more than just reparations. They'd have to leave.
cool
Probably dont most think Indians from couple hundred years ago
Yeah it’s for certain that this is our culture and we were here before Columbus copper is a brownish red and the so called “african American” is a brown with a red undertone and during the early 1900’s we had the copper romances with us on the cover
@Mike Jones These were invaders, The giants were first!
Thank you for this video. I lived just 8 miles from Cahokia Mounds from 1951-1982. This area gave me a deep-set love for discovery, archeology, and art. My heart would flutter when I set my feet on this land. (I became a high school art teacher for 9 years.)I’m now thrilled that so much more information about this mysterious place has been revealed. Part of my art making today is rooted in my experience from wandering these mounds. Keep exploring ! ❤️😘
Where is the location of the mounds?
Cahokia was not just the settlement around the mound. It spread out all over the so-called American Bottoms as well as across the river in St. Louis. The whole of downtown St. Louis was covered in large mounds. All removed now except for one, which is back in the hands of the local NDN tribes. I grew up five miles south of the Mound and there is a huge buried village that was part of "Cahokia" under my old neighborhood there, still unmarked and never excavated archaeologically.
I live in Oregon, the Willamette Valley has mounds as well. At one point in time prior to the farmers plowing the down, digging them up. I have heard there were about 300 mounds along the Calapoia River, and some along the Long Tom River. All of this was considered Kalapuya territory. Their is a old story from the settler days of the last one being made. Also it was said that before the trees took over. One of the mounds could be seen when looking at spirit Mt. On the Grand Ronde Resevation.
Have no idea if there is a connection. Just tossing the info out there for people to ponder.
Cahokia is a place I do want to visit, along with Spirit Mound.
@@captainfanta8641WOW
That's Kool.
I lived in Shady Cove for a year. I would love to have known about those mounds.❤
Now I have to go back.
LoL
Great info
who removed them the tribe or govt? I have heard that there could have been giants or the likes buried in them, wondering who decided to take the risk as i also have heard to dig them up is seriously a "dangerous" feat with potential spirits inside etc.. any more info or pointing me toward where I can find info is appreciated, this is fascinating, especially because we were never taught anything about this seemingly magical place!
@johnlombardo7816 mounds of Wisconsin had giant bones that were seen by tons of people and in newspapers. Then they went to the Smithsonian 😂😂😂😂They Gone!!!!
Giants? Evil spirits? 😂😂😂
Are you ok big guy?
I live about 10 miles from Cahokia, I go there often. It is an amazing place.
Just wait till various native tribes decide they are going to forcibly prevent peoples from visiting these areas , like they do at the serpent mound. Even though its a public site with the ohio historical society.
@@johnaiken8511 I hope your not referring to what happened last year, if so..
Pls ignore silly comments
Serpent mound is a "public" site?
It BELONGS to the native American tribe that built it. Along with the ENTIRETY of this COUNTRY. This land was stolen. Period!
@@jonbrockman5308 and before we stole it, it was stolen by other natives who raped, murdered, etc.. what’s your point?
"Newly refurbished stairs"
Translation --that's where we found the chiefs tomb with the huge gold treasure and didn't tell anyone.
Lmao
It was wooden when I visited. Now it's concrete.
@@chrispile3878 interesting
What happened to the city of gold the Ancient Covenant people built For God.
@@debbiecooper3661 The Mormons stole it
I visited many years ago, and was totally amazed at the magnitude of what that civilization did. The on site museum was astounding too.
There are many places like this across the Americas. Like I've always said, while in school we learn His-Story, after school, we spend a lifetime learning the truth that was buried or destroyed.
True facts they don't understand that they are studying his story not the truth it's so much lies learned that it has become the truth and the truth becomes the lies
The weak cannot comprehend with this s***the Lost cannot comprehend with this s***because a lie is the truth to them because they lie makes the weak and the Lost feel secure which doesn't prepare them for anything like the truth receive lies and be unprepared or receive truth and be prepared
They ain't built for this s*** I've been telling people to look up the New York area map at night on their phones my Knockswasn't answered if you decide to look it up flipped the map upside down and you will find out why everything we do is a setup
We tried to keep women barefoot, pregnant and ignorant but you feminists were too smart for us. Curses!
@@prestonransome5362 I was too young for that era lol. I was a young child. Most women will stay home and have children. But there is one condition, she has to feel safe and that she can depend on the man she is with. At least most decent empathetic women feel that way. I would have just started a business from home lol Love your comment. It made me laugh. Ignorant huh hahaha
I'm from México but I love the native history and I'm very impressed by how advance Cahokia people was.
You realize the entire continent at one point was one single location, not these fictional borders created by the white man. We’re all one people.
Adjust your meds oppa.
I live nearby and can say it’s an incredible place to visit. The museum is world-class. I highly encourage all visitors to see the short audio visual presentation in the theater first. It’s extremely well done and there’s a really neat kind of surprise ending. Resist the urge to wander into the exhibit area while waiting for the next show. It makes the experience so much better and memorable if you do. Perhaps visit the gift shop first. I promise you’ll be glad you waited. It’s really cool.
The text book, “ native Americans before 1942,” is an excellent source on this topic. It focuses on the eastern woodlands.
You mean 1492?
1942?🤔
I too grew up in Illinois and had no knowledge of Cahokia until I served in the IL Air National Guard at Scott Air force base 2001 to 2007. I visited Cahokia once in 03. I will visit again soon.
I grew up here, I played here, I climbed Monks Mound, it is awesome the wind blows through you, it is a holy place.
where is this at
I'm not from Illinois but it's awesome to think that Illinois used to be the most populated state a thousand years ago before it was even a state.
A holy place where a manipulative elite class used their knowledge of seasonal cycles to control and enslave their own people? Yeah, that sounds holy as fuck.
@Johnny Doeboy _Legends never lie._
@Johnny Doeboy Chill out, man. Those are educated guesses based on certain clues in the ground. The idea that the elites occupied the higher parts is reasonable. As is the idea of restricted access. Try strolling up to Barbara Streisand's mansion today.
There used to be a camp ground at Cahokia mounds just south of the old highway that intersected the mound site. Not that it was hurting anything but the enlightened powers saw to it that the camp ground was closed and removed. We as young kids got to explore all around the site and visit the original visitors centers many times. Being on site and learning first hand beats any classroom or internet site.
If they had no written languge how do they know that the leader was called "The Brother of the Sun"?
The Spanish encountered them when Hernando de Soto cut throught the southeast in 1541. The Spanish wrote info down about them.
Oral tradition. The Native Americans have legends.
Oral history is highly reliable.
@Johnny Doeboy correct.
If you go there all you’ll hear is “maybe....”
“we think....”
“there might have been....”
“It’s possible....”
It’s a cool place but, it is a big mystery today.
The “Woodhenge” is fascinating, the “12” is for the constellations at night, and the bigger circles could mean they are from a time much older than we give credit to...
5:51 "The population worked to support the elite class. Commoners would spend their lives in the fields or in the burrow pits while the fruits of their labor were enjoyed by the hierarchy." A tale as old as time.
It seizes to amaze me how stupid people are to believe b.s. and it's so obvious north America had natives that had no written language, no mathematics, no astronomy but get to Mexico to South America and their is pyramids, structures, mathematics, astronomy, agriculture, gold, copper, silver etc...a huge difference between these Europeans from the north with lies and the Spanish in Mexico and South America that didn't lie
Absolutely NO different from classes today...
@@berthaday3473 Yup. Coming soon to a nation near your hunger games here we come.
My friend and I camped out there in the early 70's. Lots of mosquitos there. Did not know I was sleeping on a burial site.
"Somehow the Mississippian culture had developed the knowledge of how to raise this prolific crop in large fields".
"Somehow"? As if this is surprising? A complex culture, a city of 20,000, and he's surprised that they figured out how to cultivate corn?
Well, corn is supposed to originate thousands of years ago from a single agricultural center: Mexico. If the Mississippi culture independently figured out how to cultivate it, then it certainly is a great achievement, maybe that's what he means.
@Klaa2 Which remark in specific, Einstein?
@@RogueReplicant yup in mexico about 7,400 years ago
They figured out how to cultivate corn. Then they got a complex culture and a city of 20k.
@@prestonransome5362 Yes, I expect that it happened in that order.
Found this while studying for my College class. Great Video
I wonder how old this video is?
I ve been in plenty hidden woods and ancient parks in the state of ga and I must say the feeling of ageless rest is heavily apon those areas...it is a very pleasant experience....
Jack Weatherford has 2 very good books about pre-Columbian American history. One is called "Indian Givers" and the other "Native Roots". Native
people find the first title demeaning, but it isn't meant as the phrase Indian Givers is usually meant. It means that Indians did indeed give us much of
what we have today. I highly recommend these books for any serious student of Native peoples and history.
I was fortunate to have been on a school field trip here in the early 1970's. this was long before the new interpretive center was built. As I recall, there were several mounds being restored to their proposed shape. I remember our guide saying new dirt of a different color was being used for repairs. The reason for dirt of a different color was to allow future archeologists to see where repairs were made. Many of the mounds had tall grass growing on them. I am looking forward to revisiting the improved site.
I visited there years ago! The artifacts
Look pre-Aztec in design with like symbolic etchings!
Good presentation, thanks for airing it.
Its ironic that people kept screwing around with Silbury Hill until it almost collapsed before they figured out a way to save it....yet here, they've built a huge concrete walkway up the side of this thing!
Surprised its lasted this long!
I really enjoyed all the information I am definitely taking a trip with my kids this Summer. I'll be a nice drive taking the route 66 from Chicago....
Also from Chicago! How was your visit? I went when I was very young, and would like to go again this summer =)
Stop at cozy dog in Springfield on rt 66 they invented corndogs
Its been 4 years! have you gone yet. :)
"The fruits of their labor were enjoyed by the hierarchy." Sounds like nothing has changed. Lol.
You can't' have a complex society without some form of it.
Have you visited Iceland, Scandinavia? Complex societies can exist and thrive when the People receive more of the benefits of their labor. After WW 2, in the 1950's and 1960's, that is just what happened in the USA. Unfortunately, those who run the circus have decided that the lower classes don't really need as much as the rich classes do.
That part is likely false, mainstream will tell you it was for "elites" because they want to program your mind to believe in a hierarchy and to worship the "elite". They recently discovered the Egyptian pyramids weren't tombs for pharaohs, but giant energy generating structures. I'm sure the purpose for these large mounds had nothing to do with class structures.
Its a lie thats why.
That’s a lie most likely
Goodness, I hope the State of Illinois puts money in the budget to update this series. It was a great series with a good mission but really needs to be redone to incorporate new information or revisions.
I love this narrators style and sound. It reminds me of a lot of documentaries I watched as a kid.
Good presentation of this archeological evidence.
I've been there. It's a very interesting place. Spent the day there learning in the Center, and exploring the mounds a surrounding area. It was worth the visit.
What he is not telling us is that these where giant buried in these tomb's!
There are old news articles about that. I was wondering if they were going to mention that fact prior to watching this.
During the early 1900's there has been hundreds of giants dug up and sent to Smithsonian. Then never spoke of again.
Any sources? :x
@@sigmacassandra4365 Yeah. Hold on.
@@sigmacassandra4365 th-cam.com/video/mR5i0lI3xrw/w-d-xo.html. I think this is one that covers this subject
Without a written language, it is difficult to know what everyday life was like.
Thanks and congrats for this very interesting video. I've been in Mexico and Guatemala many times and saw their huge pre-columbian monuments but never had heard about such big civilization in what is today the USA.
The mounds was also so they can see the enemies coming from the distance
Monks Mound allows one to see 10 miles and you can see the city and arch well from where the king sat and lived. I guess since he was the big boss, he also gave orders on everything and controlled everything like war narratives and housing for regular too. Like us in the modern era, they too came up short despite all that open space and resources here in America. greed and psychopathy destroys each and every time a civilization matures.
I'm currently reading a historical fiction novel called People of the River by Michael and Kathleen Gear. So encountering this video helps give "realism" to the novel--plus I have been to Cahokia several times. The novel is amazing because it expands on all the things mentioned in this video PLUS gives possible (maybe even likely) reasons why the area was eventually abandoned. One speculation used in the novel is that the climate was changing and becoming more arid. As a result food was becoming scarce, which resulted in a kind of "food riot" between neighboring sites. Also, a lot about the "religious" beliefs of the people is included, making for a fascinating read. Check it out. (By the way, I do not know nor am I related to the authors, so this is NOT intended to be a plug for the book.)
how did the Vikings "discover" the new world, if there were already well established societies that had been there for thousands of years?
People like to say stupid things.
There were people-groups that "discovered" the Americas and many other places far-flung, long before the Vikings.
A person can discover something that has already been discovered. It is semantics. To that person, it's a new thing. Therefore, the Vikings found the new world for the first time for themselves, even though there were already people living in the new world. That doesn't change the fact that the Vikings discovered something. So let's stop complaining about semantics.
at least he wasn't talking about Columbus
They didn't. They just discovered new native Americans
I work as a staff archeologist at SIU Edwardsville and was hired (along with a lot of other students) to do the site survey; when there was a campground and a drive-in theater where the plaza would have been.
My mom is from Indiana, and we used to visit every couple of years, driving the US. But I don't remember ever stopping here. I do remember the cliff homes in the desert.
I did not know Illinois was so interesting. When you say prehistoric times that is a good clue it goes back much older than stated at least 25 or 50 thousand years earlier. Who ever built it had to be a great civilization to create so much...
Did the solukang built it?? 😂😂
Sea shells from the gulf coast seems like pretty good evidence that they would have had contact with peoples from central America too me.
They did, Navajo and peublos always use Mecaw feathers from central america, because of the vast trade routes that were very complex
They had contact with all the other mound/ pyramid builders around the world that had the knowledge of the stars and progressions and built these aligned with the stars, sun, moon,etc. There are loads of history archeologist are not telling us.
@@gregoryleblanc7938 They were in touch... 'around the world'... good grief.
Dude they clearly had boats back then. A little Chinese girl just sailed around the world by herself. Open your eyes it's not unbelievable to think this possible. And now you mention it, asian ppl's, eskimo ppl's, and also native american ppl's all have distinguishing looking traits.......... seems as if they did make a little "contact" back than 😉.
@@shiverarts8284 that’s right. There was a burial ground accidentally dug up in the PNW that contained South American tobacco seeds even.
I’m happy to say I lived on 15 minutes away from the historical site and has taken field trips as a child with my elementary school class this was amazing to see as a kid then to findout the truth of it I had rode pass this once a before village growing up once I learned it’s truth it turned out to be a beautiful experience me an my classmates enjoyed running up the steps and down when your a kid you have no worries and no understanding of things but once you do it’s something amazing can’t wait to go back to my home town and visit gotta go before winter hits that Midwest winters are no joke 😂
I live in Ohio, I'm 76, this is on my bucket list, I want to go there this summer.
I love Jim Wilhelm, he is such an awesome dude.
So the hypothesis for how Cahokia ended is they ate too much corn and ruined their environment? Wait a minute, isn't that us? hmm...
I loved learning about the "N. American Pyramids" (Mounds) back in school. We have a few here in Ohio, but they're made differently, and had a different function.
I am enrolled eastern shoshone of the wind river reservation in Wyoming and..... European people who are digging up our Mississippi river valley and hiding the plunder of their misgivings...where are the giants that we still have tribal stories...
The giants with red hair that were there before the amerindians arrived, you mean?
Who built all of the mounds and elaborate stone structures?
Yes - the Shawnee and Ojibwa elders tell fascinating origin stories saying precisely that.
The clock is ticking.
I said that the truth is not out there, and yes someone giants have 6 fingers and red hair. I just want it out there
Nothing is gained by playing the one-note ukulele of victimhood, Sir. The dishonesty, stupidity and malevolence of our country today are a terrible tragedy for us all.
Agreed
3:47 You just said a minute ago that there is "no evidence" that they had any contact with mesoamerican cultures. Now you're wondering how and where they managed to domesticate and cultivate corn.?. And they had seashells from the Gulf of Mexico!.. 🤔🤦🏻♂️
They traded with the US Southwest/Four corners regions (aka the Pueblo peoples) as an intermediary. They didn't know about each other but they both knew of the Puebloans.
Too many assumptions. They didn't need to trade directly with the mesoamericans for them to have obtained corn, there were many other tribes, cultures in between the two that would have been like dots connecting the trade. It's much more likely that they obtained the corn via the many other tribes that lived south of that area and eventually extending in to Texas. As for the seashells from the Gulf of Mexico, you do realise the Gulf of Mexico extends well in to the United States right???? Have you ever even looked at a map??? Florida, Louisiana, Alabamba, Mississippi, Texas, all are on the GULF OF MEXICO lol. Corn obtained from other tribes that lived to the south, seashells obtained from trading tribes of Florida/Louisiana Gulf of Mexico shores.... get it now?
Texas to Florida are all on the Gulf of Mexico and nowhere near mesoamerica.
J A so... they had contact lol so much effort to fix this plot hole like bro they ain’t telling you the truth lmao
We visited Cahokia over the weekend. The staff was friendly, helpful and informative as they explained the history and speculation of the mounds. It is fascinating and should be on everyone’s bucket list.
I went mushroom hunting, packed my bags and went to my sisters. The next day we climbed the Cahokia mound and my baby was delivered that night.😊
Congrats!!! Did you also find mushrooms? :)
There had to be contact with Mesoamerican cultures, very similar layout.
And the maize that had to come from Mexico, where it was originally bred in Oaxaca
They had. The Poton , Chontal, Yokotan Mayans. Miami derives from Mayaimi.
Thus why they tried to eradicate this part of history so there would be no trail proving this.
I knew this from elders.
Seems like a group of Mesoamericans moved north rather than native americans living differently since the mesoamericans were settled people while native americans were nomadic and this wasn;t widespread in the north.
I think it was more diffusion based rather than mesoamericans themselves
700gsteak
The Mayans moved Northward into the Mississippian Southeast. The remaining Mississippian peoples and the Iroquoian Ani’yunwi’ya mingled with the Mayan migrants producing the Mikasuki, I.e. Muskogee people.
One thing is for certain. The Mayans must’ve been related to the numerous mound building cultures because of the way they built their structures, e.g. Meso-American pyramids and Hopewell Mounds.
My grandfather carved the totem pole in the visitor center. 😊❤️
No, my grandfather did.
I’ve visited. It is really interesting and the interpretive center is excellent. It is a short drive from St Louis.
I was there as a child 44 years ago, and they told me it was the highest elevation in the state. Though hardly true, it made sense to me, as a road trip was miles of corn in all directions!
Great Video.. People have No Clue to the Real History of "America".
They were black. When people say we came from Africa, explain how Africans built the plantation with marketing they’ve never seen. The ships weren’t that big, and it didn’t take days or weeks to reach the US. It took months and Africans would’ve died out by then
They were so called black , colored , Indians , but specifically and factually Moors 🇲🇦
Glad that I found this doc.- just the other day, I was telling a friend how unusual it is that every place on earth, except for the North American continent, boasted advanced ancient civilizations. Africa, Europe, the Middle East, China, etc., all had past histories of wealth, technology, and culture, which North America seemed to have missed out on. My history education told me that ancient empires in the Western hemisphere stopped at the Mexican border. Now I know better. Thanks.
look up Pueblo Bonito
'Advanced'... no.
He tells us there was no cultural contact with the civilization to the south, in Mexico. Then he shows us the life-sustaining core of their agriculture: maize, the main crop whose cultivation spread from an original center in Mexico. That, my friends, is cultural contact. Meanwhile, the narrator is at a loss to explain the Cahokian's adoption of maize cultivation. He tells us it happened "somehow". This is not exactly a rigorous account.
@Klaa2 The cultivation of maize is in itself primary evidence of cultural contact. Its spread has been traced from Mesoamerica to the Mississippi valley. Do you think this happened without human agency? I regard as unscientific the thesis that Mississippian maize cultivation developed independently of the Mesoamerican instigators of that practice. Contact between these regions was easily achieved through water passage, in contrast to the proven but more difficult Mesoamerican cultural migration northward to the southwestern U.S. over desert terrain. How else do you account for the appearance of maize in the Mississippi Valley?
The Woodhinge was set at 48 weeks - 48 poles. To account for the remaining 4 weeks of the year (52 weeks), the 5 circles with 12 months each (12 poles) accounts for the axial shift of the earth from the sun. The 5th circle adjusting for each 4 year leap year.
I grew up in St. Clair county and never understood why Collinsville, IL ( where the mounds are actually located)wasn't named Cahokia? Cahokia, IL is a few miles southeast near the Mississippi river closer to downtown St Louis.
Amazing how much info can be mashed into 10mins. This guy is great.
just heard about cahokia from the Godrules channel today.. this is fascinating, great video thank you for sharing!
Think about before the corp of engineers, when the river flooded, it flooded for miles. That area is only 10-15 feet above where the river is now. The river used to be more shallow and change course more often. Those mounds were needed to save lives and livestock and possessions. The top of the mound is only 40 feet above the river now. It makes sense they needed several mounds.
I grew up in Illinois and never heard of this! Guess a big thanks to my history teachers goes out! Lol
"One of the biggest Mysteries." Around 900 AD, large numbers of Indians started to gather and assemble, around Cahokia. There were several Satellite stops related to the mounds. The Collapse of the civilization came because the Indians started to bring religion into their culture. The leaders promised that the reason that the crops were good, the rain was plentiful, and the civilization were functioning, was because of a God. The indian Culture collapsed, at Cahokia, when there was a 100 year drought, and the Indians rejected Religion for a "Way of Life." The Indians left Cahokia because of religion, and the unkept promises that came with it. This is the story taken from the Indian culture.
watching this made me feel like I was back in grade school. I liked it. Learning is fun.
Sorry I never got a chance to see Cahokia when I lived in Illinois.
I want to go so bad 😅
I have known of Cahokia Illinois for a long time. I don't think that I have ever been there. It is only 120 miles from my hometown in Marion. It would be nice to head back up there and to visit Cahokia some day.
"they had no written language". And yet... We seem to beleive that we "know" just how they lived and happen to "know" their culture....? Right
BRILLIANT!
@Klaa2 stop it clown...
Before they died maybe Europeans were able write down their findings
Language, history gets passed down by word of mouth as with all ancient histories.
you can learn a lot by what you dig up . . .
Currently reading 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus, and wanted to see those mounds on video.
The real "Rio Grande" is the Mississippi River. Those mounds were the way the Aztecs traveled up and down the entire continent by controlling river flows. The Mississippi river was dried for the Spaniard that said that he was also the son of the sun. When he was asked to dry the river the Spaniard died when he couldn't. Aztecs had those flight gliding suits long before anyone thought of how to make them. Believe what you want, this story from my great grandfather.
The narrator claims this is the largest ancient structure in North America, but it certainly looks far smaller than the Pyramid of the Sun, the largest building in Teotihuacan.
It's sad that we are not taught about these places as well as them being excavated and preserved
I remember driving Semi from Oregon Il to St Louis and seeing the CAHOKIA mounds back in 75
The Cahokian chieftain assumed the title "A brother of the Sun". Hernando deSoto made a similar claim during his expedition throughout the southern states of Mississippi and Arkansas in 16th century; calling himself "An immortal son of the Sun", a ploy some believed was used to gain the natives submission without conflict. Correction: It was generally acknowledged that he did to so to gain their submission.
Hard to believe that it society who could accurately plot the movement of the sun, design a city that supported thousands, and built a perfectly symmetrical mound had no written language. That’s amazing! Also, is there an association of the five solar circles to the Olympic logo?
See my video about the mounds that were excavated in Thailand . There was a global civilization before
That's hilarious! He states there is no noted ties between the Mississippian Peoples and Mexico....yet they grew Corn. Where does he think Corn came from?
My folks who were way up the Missouri River have stories of travels south to the Missippi River and furher south to trade with the People of the Land of the Twisted Pot Houses, sounds like Mexico to me...
Why do you become so easily outraged? He mentions the shells from the Gulf of Mexico. The dude presents plenty of facts, and speaks reasonably on established fact. Don't take things so personally.
@@Redmenace96 Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics chamber degrees will guide you
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Why do you accuse them of being "outraged", of taking things "personally"? I do not see that in their comment. It comes across as simply an honestly-felt viewpoint.
“No evidence they had any connection that far south” ... As it pans to a structure vastly resembling mayan/amazonian/olmec pyramids. 😞 Its like its innate for these pseudo academics to pontificate pseudonyms and false hoods 😂
Pyramids, human sacrifice, large settlement, strong class divisions, and wooden hinge. No, they had no outside influences.
"no evidence of any connection" ... Yeah sure, but what about the corn from mexico?
@@ryonlabaw1498 I find it hard to believe they didn't have connections with Mesoamerica. While they didn't have horses for transportation these people were basically taught to run everywhere from the time they could walk. They developed tremendous endurance and could run for miles on end. So they likely did maintain networks of communication to exchange ideas and goods. Corn did come from Mexico like you said.
Seashells, copper, mica, and corn, and it seems culture too, but no contact...
tritosac boats.
I think it was where they went when it flooded they made that 110ft high ground so, they survived they also probably stored most of their food and it wouldn't surprise me if they took ground penetrating radar and that might find some really interesting things, it's common out here in Comanche country to find burials in places that were the highest point in the area they were in
Yes flooding was and still is an issue on the planet > especially next to not one giant river but where 2 giant rivers meet the Missouri and the Mississippi
My opinion is that these people knew of the light
Ya they probably saw the sun. It's pretty big and hard to miss.🙄
"Hello I'm Jim wilhelm" I replayed that way 2 many times
Most of Native American History was passed down through stories preserved by retelling through the decades and centuries. This was also true in the various tribes of the South American tribes and Central American and Mexican tribes.
I live in Illinois, pretty close to Cahokia mounds. I've ran workouts on Cahokia mounds before.
If there was no written language how did they come up with so much detailed information ?
Dig, sift, study.
Adding more vertical poles while increasing the overall size of the tree calendar was done to increase the accuracy of their calendar. That would be my guess, anyway.
I concur...
Not sure when this video was actually made, but you completely miss the idea that there's a town just up the road on the other side of the Mississippi and Missouri where they estimate a minimum of 82 to 85,000 people lived in a city there.
And it dates at least a thousand years older than Cahokia
Interesting, do you know what this city was called?
Use lidar to confirm why this site is protected. There are ruins under there folks. Far more advanced than we are giving credit.
mudflood mounds covering structures. i think.
...Illinois....sounds like a culture built around copper mining...
...and that corn came from Mexico...
...slapped paw on forehead when the dude said Illinois was too far from Mexico for contact...
...guess he didn't think about that big old Mississippi River as the contact highway...
...only got 3:38 minutes in and found fault with too many things to continue...
I always try to imagine if the Americas had horses before the settlers arrived
You know I studied Archaeology and after about 6 years, I felt the same way about the discipline as a whole. You could say I have buyers remorse for my degree field. They left no written records, but left sweatlodges and burial mounds buried basket by basket. 300 sacrificed girls, do their bones show tool marks? Or is it possible they fell to a virus or bacteria? If sacrificed there must be some evidence such as cuts in vertebrae or hyoid bone.etc. How do they know the leader was the brother to the sun or the Sun God incarnate? Maybe those were signal mounds and the guy on the top was a really just a lowly messenger who knew smoke signals...,maybe they made the mounds to secure their food resources from flooding. They are in a serious flood zone of that time. And so on.
Yeah if they left no written records- where is the narrator getting the info
to support the statements he makes? It seems like alot of speculation and assumption going on.
I mean, how can he say it took “hundreds of years to create these mounds, spanning many generations that lugged a bucket of dirt at a time”.
And then say that the entire place was abandoned and they have no idea why. Huh?
@@MastrMynd A vivid imagination. Most archaeological assumptions are just that.
@@juliesteimle3867 Some people think corn came from Mexico.
In ohio mounds they found giant skrletons n i think thats what these mounds r also giant burial grounds for giants
although Cahokia was the largest city in th year 1200, with a population of 20,000, a few centuries earlier in what is now Mexico ( in North America) was Teotihuacan a city of 125,00- 200,000 people.. a much more impressive total.
Good video. To be a bit more specific, Cahokia Mounds is not located in the city of Cahokia, IL. It is right on the edge of Collinsville (the Kahoks! - home of the fictitious Kahok Native American tribe). It is definitely worth the time to visit Cahokia Mounds if want to learn about our history.
CORN is MEXICAN! Corn/Maize/Elote was domesticated from a wild grass called Teosinte in southern Mexico and the 3 sisters agricultural method originated in Mexico as well...Used by Many tribes in what is now THE USA and Canada arrived around the Mississippian era probably brought by Toltec/Huastec Mayas of Veracruz and Hidalgo Mexico The Aztec Mexica claim to be from the land in the North which i have concluded to be descended originally from a Subtribe of the Ojibwe/Anishnaabek called Michilimackinac of the Turtle subclans of the Fish clan and through the Illinois tribe called the Michigamea and Zuni Tribe of New Mexico and Tarascans/Purepecha of Michoacan, Mexico.
None of the modern mexicans or pale Hispanics look like those mayna murals in Mexico. Those look like niggas and they have dreadlocks which is mind blowing
Yeah & the Olmec look like Polynesians but I don't call them "island niggas"
Where does the disrespect come from? Respect all tribal peoples man, Mayan African etc.etc.
We can only hope that Trump and the GOP don't hand it over to miners, developers, ranchers and other right wing anti-American scoundrel republican, like Trump and the GOP!
What! I promise high school history need 2 be discontinued, due 2 lack of real truthful fact based history. I mean what I got taught were built on a book of lies. 😥. Thanks 4 taking time sharing this hardly spoken history. Remain blessed.
Awesome! Thank you.
God- I hate the main stream dumbed down media and “archeologists “- I just hate it.
It’s insulting to everyone
world hearitage site, UN can go to hell
Agreed
@Klaa2 What? Umm, yeah- that was TOTALLY called for lol And doesn't make u sound hateful, at all- no no lol
Arkansas has the Toltec mounds , I wonder if people from Illinois moved down here.?
they where all over the country at the time millions and there is a written history but its hidden from us...
@@casegordon5055 Who's hiding that and why? That said, Native Americans are very motivated to have all old skeletal remains classified as religious artifacts so they can't be studied. This is to cover up the fact that some skeletons are European and that, thus "Native American" includes European as well as Siberian people.
The federal statute they lobbied for is something like "The Native American Antiquities Act."
Preston Ransome oh you sweet summer child... don’t you realize how shallow the claim to a new world is when it’s actually a very old world with existing history and societies... but uh yeah trust the same establishment that lies about W.M.Ds
Get out of your moms basement coercedjab. You're just screaming at the mirror right now🙄
"Fruits of their labor enjoyed by the hierarchy" interesting, looks like nothings changed. That's still going on to this day.
It’s almost as if it’s a basis of any society unfortunately.
There is a nice view of St Louis city,
on the top of the tallest mounds,
stay on the paths and stairs of course.
Weird how an arch was put there, not far away,
but visible.
What was also weird was a few offerings left there,
but not the food,
it was the replica of an Egyptian bust left there by someone that was off.
I started the "zi di ni ana kan pa" from the Fields of the Nephs when I saw that.
Hey why not include the Sumerians?
Yes, I was there, just a day ago.
The entire area should be a national treasure. Remember they were here first. We are on their land. Pre historic should tell you a little about what they had to encountered wildlife wise. Hint, it wasn't buffalo.
Land belongs to he who can hold it ... There is no "ownership" of land. Its all temporary