Can your trail elbow cause a slice, a hook, a fat shot and a shank?

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  • @Steverino8686
    @Steverino8686 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jonathan, I have watched more than a thousand videos over the years, maybe more, and this is certainly in the top five. I went to the range last night and just absolutely pured most every shot. Wow, and thank you!

  • @tlim1945
    @tlim1945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jonathan, nobody has explained the right forearm on plane before. All the L to L swing is killing everybody swing. And the tilt and keeping elbow at the side is also killing all swings. I used your theory today, and ball impact is so much better and hit my driver a long way. Thanks very much. You are the Best!!

  • @Jdeneik
    @Jdeneik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really a great explanation of why I som smother hook my drives! Thank you!

  • @zonefinderx6723
    @zonefinderx6723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jon. The lowering of the trail arm probably explains why some can play with long clubs vs shorter ones and vice versa. Need to adjust the angle accordingly.

  • @pwaveqrs1
    @pwaveqrs1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you, thank you, thank you. Since watching your videos over the past three weeks, my handicap has dropped from 10.6 to 8.4. This video explains how the feeling of lower hands through impact has me hitting more greens. I have always struggled with the right elbow.

    • @Mr.mallaer
      @Mr.mallaer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are full of it.

  • @DavidTaylor-cm2rv
    @DavidTaylor-cm2rv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Socket is a shank, my trail elbow and release is causing shanks. Just changed my swing and now I shank with every iron!!!! Going to try this, cannot wait

  • @denniskennemur2043
    @denniskennemur2043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for that explanation you’ve helped me solve a problem with my iron strikes.

  • @rufussthoo4083
    @rufussthoo4083 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jonathan. I agree absolutely with @Rexx. I've never had, or seen, anyone explain this element of the swing clearly ... until you, now. I've done a lot of video analysis of my swing and it looks pretty solid, except for an obvious early extension that leads to the club head beating the hands to the ball. The result is either a straight but ridiculously high shot with poor distance or a high fade. I used to blame my shafts that have a low kick point. But comparing my downswing positions frame by frame to your demo in this video, it became clear this was the error in my swing mechanics that was creating the subsequent issues. 10 minutes of drills, 10 mins of practice swings and I'm already hitting them more solidly with a better contact. I'm even taking shallow divots, which is a first for me. Cheers.

  • @ponbom
    @ponbom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Jonathan for a great video. The awareness and understanding of the correct right arm movement drastically improved the quality of my shots. My whole golf swing feels different and much more confident now. The right arm movement was obviously exactly what I needed to focus on. Thanks again!

  • @lesliewoodcock5880
    @lesliewoodcock5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dual core rotation and elbow unfold, brilliant. Hitting the ball very solidly, thank you. Very few instructors talk about the elbow unfolding enough. Hitting across the ball from the bottom is almost never spoken of nor diagnosed. Many very good swings produce poor results from this small and critical detail. Mike Bender talks about it briefly but never talks about what produces it, he just puts a noodle close to the ground along TL and has students swing under it.

  • @Jackisback31645426
    @Jackisback31645426 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is from 2018? Where have you been all my life? This dimension of right arm dynamics simply isn't taught here in the U.S. I think you and your colleague Russell Heritage should join forces. Both of you teach stuff that just isn't taught here and it's no wonder that handicaps here stubbornly refuse to improve, as so much of what we are taught in the U.S. is actually detrimental (like the Harvey Penick pumping drill - which shows a heavily bent right elbow but never attempts to explain when or how the right elbow should begin to straighten or finish straightening).
    Your instructional insight here finally explained to me why I can hit the ball so nicely using a split-hands drill with the irons, but simply couldn't duplicate it with my hands together on the grip. It's because as soon as I put my hands together on the grip, I immediately (and subconsciously) went back to keeping the right elbow bent too long into the downswing, never getting the right forearm back on plane - creating the extreme "high hands" approach to impact - resulting in the two-way miss I have been struggling with for years.
    I think there may be a mental block as well: we tend to keep that right elbow bent at a right angle to the upper arm for too long in the downswing because some part of our brain is convinced that this will help prevent hitting fat shots.
    Great stuff here that is very immediately use-able on the range and the course. Thanks so much.

    • @JonathanTaylor63
      @JonathanTaylor63  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like the instruction. Thank you 🙏

  • @DavidTaylor-cm2rv
    @DavidTaylor-cm2rv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tried it and no more sockets, really nice strikes and almost dead straight. Many thanks

  • @jamespatterson4492
    @jamespatterson4492 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    exactly what is going on with my swing..trying so hard to hold "L" angle deep into downswing..my results..pull-hook..left of left..moved ball position back..improved slightly..open face slightly....better..but crap shoot as to square or open at impact..will try this drill..makes so much sense..thank you..

  • @michaelvaldivia6375
    @michaelvaldivia6375 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent tip! I’ve not seen or heard this before. Looking forward to working on this. Thanks very much!

  • @mickseely7912
    @mickseely7912 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yet another great instructional video from a highly skilled golf instructor, many thanks Jonathan.

  • @mydoose0
    @mydoose0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wa woo.. I've tried to hit it with making my right arm closed. But many people pointed that was wrong. But now I'm going to practice this way again.
    Thanks for your help
    .

  • @davidgilliam8307
    @davidgilliam8307 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    During a pitching lesson I was told to just swing back, hold, and turn through. Now I think I let my right elbow bend too much & that's why I'm yanking partial wedges left. Thank you!

  • @Dkrin28
    @Dkrin28 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This makes a lot of sense, the right forearm has to be basically on plane to get the shat on plane. I don’t know what I do but I’m going to film myself and find out

  • @davidt3559
    @davidt3559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Video! Definitely an Ah Ha moment. Thank you!!!

  • @thomasfraser9072
    @thomasfraser9072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At the top of the downswing: the right elbow lead the right hand which open up the lead left side. Believe me it’s that simple. Very similar to a football player throwing a football only golf is on a different plane. Cheers

  • @jbplunkett1
    @jbplunkett1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great description, again, of the elbow.

  • @scottsanders2641
    @scottsanders2641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, and exactly what Mac O’Grady teaches. (MORAD) Straightening the trail elbow while keeping the trail wrist bend. Thx!

  • @moggyman6413
    @moggyman6413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Jonathon, excellent content and very well explained

  • @robsaxepga
    @robsaxepga ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. You nailed it. Thanks

  • @kevinmurphy3666
    @kevinmurphy3666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jonathan always great job ty !!! And your looking great nice and Healthy ,, keep.it up !!! Ty again stay safe please!!!!

  • @ianmatterson5632
    @ianmatterson5632 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video with excellent ideas...thank you J.W..must admit though 'socketing', i don't know what that terminology refers to

    • @JonathanTaylor63
      @JonathanTaylor63  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A shank or socket, the ball hits the heel of the club and goes directly to the right.

  • @bobj2447
    @bobj2447 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Revelation, will try!

  • @stryker2828
    @stryker2828 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great vid! Just downloaded the PDF...can't wait 😀

  • @singledigits_og
    @singledigits_og 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This tip seems better suited for a single-plane swing rather than the now-dominant douple-plane swing. While he's correct on the right wrist, Ben Hogan, Harvey Penick, Moe Norman , and frankly, most other instructors, would disagree about having a less active right elbow horizontally. Norman described it as "vertical drop and horizontal tug," Penick called it "The Magic Move," and Hogan, in "Five Lessons" gave the analogy of an infielder's throw where the elbow actively led the hand. By Just thinking "down" without the "lead / horizontal tug," you give up a bunch of clubhead speed and spin production potential. Yes, you can indeed have the big pull or big push with a very active right elbow, but you're only at risk of that if you haven't rotated enough, or have early extended (like I often struggle with) .. and Jonathan's demonstration suggests his own swing doesn't have a lot of body rotation. So, if you're a single-plane swinger, maybe this could be for you, but I can see this leaving a lot of potential distance behind.

    • @Mr.mallaer
      @Mr.mallaer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Single plane applies only to set up and take way, The swing itself is the same otherwise, with some individual differences.

    • @albertpelly6374
      @albertpelly6374 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      si.ngledigits

  • @Mr.mallaer
    @Mr.mallaer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It can cause all of the above and more. Don’t forget fat and thin shots. Pretty much any bad shot in golf can be caused by wrists.

  • @ggkk6474
    @ggkk6474 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff.

  • @briancrain1697
    @briancrain1697 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jonathan. Can I set the alignment stick in the ground like you have it at the shaft angle and swing under it and hit the ball? Will that help me engrain the correct movement? It looks like it is about a grip and a half length behind the ball and pretty much directly on the target line... is that right? I have been shanking like crazy and I am actually a pretty good ball striker but now the shanks are in my head. My practice swing is fine. I really think my right arm and wrist are the culprit.

  • @alancarlyon3928
    @alancarlyon3928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, but confusion as I have always been told that the left hand/arm in dominant for the right handed golfer, so are you saying that I should follow through with the right arm/hand?

    • @JonathanTaylor63
      @JonathanTaylor63  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Alan
      God gave you two arms and hands, it is best to use them both:) They need to work as a team.

    • @Jackisback31645426
      @Jackisback31645426 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even Leadbetter said on an old Faldo instructional video (paraphrasing): good golf with the hands/arms is a union of forces, not a battle for supremacy.

  • @mohinpde
    @mohinpde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @steveking2144
    @steveking2144 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's what keeps me in business....hilarious!

  • @luigiferrario616
    @luigiferrario616 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The difference between your release

  • @jeanlouisdubillon4212
    @jeanlouisdubillon4212 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouaouuuuuu my problème during 3 years ago !!!!!!

  • @gordontucker055
    @gordontucker055 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I paid for the pdf but never downloaded it or received it?

  • @SuperDieseldriver
    @SuperDieseldriver 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    William Hague

  • @SuperDieseldriver
    @SuperDieseldriver 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    William Hague 😂😂

  • @Stoyvensen
    @Stoyvensen ปีที่แล้ว

    😳💡