I must say watching England at the Euros was like watching the Hammers last season. Best players out of position, reluctance to make subs, allowing opposition possession.
To anyone who wants to see what West Ham fans were frustrated about under Moyes, go and watch Newcastle vs West Ham last season. We lost a game we could have won by four. Our attacking players were ripping Newcastle to shreds, the minute we got the lead, he bottled it and tried to shut up shop with about 35 - 40 minutes to play. He robbed the attacking players of a wonderful performance, the club of a result that could have seen us back in Europe, and the away fans of a thrilling showing after a 6 hour trip up north. It was painful. It was like a boxer winning the first six rounds and then being told by their coach to not punch for the next six..
I rated Moyes for the results that he got (overall, better than almost all of our previous managers), but tbh I don´t go to the games as I live abroad - I know that lots of our fans just couldn´t handle his defence-first approach, lack of rotation, very late & too ineffective substitutions. But, I think that was the moment psychologically where we blew any chance of really believing we were gonna get back into Europe again at the end of last season. NUFC were really suffering with injuries in their defence in that game & time of season, so we could have gone for the throat there. Again, on the other hand, I don´t think we could have handled another season in Europe with our small squad size and lack of depth & our transfer policy & his reluctance to operate anything like a big enough squad (aside from our board being too tight as well most of the time). I think he would´ve still been our manager if he had somehow got us back into Europe again - but it´s prob for the best that he left ´cos the ´project´ & team was running out of steam.
Be careful what you wish for West Ham fans think they are better then they are remember when moyes left before you was fighting relegation 😂😂 funny club
The West Ham Way to me is the traditions served under managers Greenwood and Lyall attempting to play attacking football with technique and flair and bringing youngsters through the Academy. Also giving the Club a family feel with good habits installed throughout the Club. A lot of it died with the sacking of Lyall although Bonds brought it back a little and on the pitch the teams of Redknapp were typical West Ham teams. Sure it wasn't overly successful but it must have been a decent philosophy in cups anyway considering Greenwood won FA Cup and Cup Winners Cup and Lyall won two FA Cups, a League Cup Final and still holds the clubs highest place finish.
As a 61 year old evertonian, I grew up the school of science. I like West Ham, proper working class people and proper club. Moyes revolutionised Everton, school of science was dead and gone. Respect and admire David and the play not to lose mentality cost Everton trophies. Pleased he won at West Ham but as they say, be careful what you wish for. Tofffees not had a good day since he left. Good luck this season
@@MichaelConstantinou-x4d "Be careful what you wish for"....is that phrase used in ANY other walk of life other than lobbed at football fans? It's like saying "don't dare to dream".
If you were an England fan that was frustrated by the way England played with the talent they had in the euros, Moyes was EXACTLY the same at West Ham. best way to describe it. Kudus, Bowen, Paqueta, Ward Prowse, Alvarez and playing a low block hoping for set pieces. Still an absolute legend of the game but that was the truth of it.
Hi Simon. I’m 75 and avid West Ham fan. I watched your podcast with David Moyes and as you both professed ignorance of the West Ham way I thought I would enlighten you. It’s quite simple really. The West Ham way is training our own academy players since late 50s/early 60s to play for the club in 1st team. It was very successful, in those days for a middle league team in terms of finance and history. I’m guessing that when we won FA Cup 1964, European Cup Winners Cup (2nd British team to win European trophy after Spurs) 1965, and before Celtic, the Lions of Lisbon gloriously won in 1967. FA Cup 1975 FA Cup 1980 we had pride in our home-grown players in our team. The FA Cup was our first trophy win since we lost in 1923 to Bolton, The White Horse Final, the first at Wembley. Important point you ALL forget. ONLY 1 team wins Premier League each season, leaving 19 failures, some valiant, some poor, some rich, some struggling. We accept that we won’t win league, statistically, even though Leicester did. it happens once in a blue moon, less now. No English manager has won Premier League as far as I know, since 1992-1993 I believe. The last one was Howard Wilkinson with Leeds the year prior to Premier League starting. Some of our wonderful West Ham Academy players. Declan Rice Bobby Moore Frank Lampard Junior & Senior Paul Ince Geoff Hurst Rio Ferdinand Anton Ferdinand Joe Cole Martin Peters Michael Carrick Sir Trevor Brooking Glen Johnson Mark Noble I’ll give you context with 2 other teams, NEITHER is OLD SCHOOL ELITE. Chelsea. I used to watch them occasionally in late sixties when West Ham were away I would go to Stamford Bridge and other local London DIV 1 teams. They won Div 1 in 1954-55 I think with lowest points ever. The in mid to late sixties they had a marvellous youthful side. Chelsea academy players, managed by Dave Sexton, ex West Ham player from 1952-1955. Ron Harris, Allan Harris, Peter Bonetti, Bobby Tambling, Barry Bridges, Bert Murray, John Hollins, Peter Osgood, Ray Wilkins, Graeme Le Saux, Bobby Smith, Terry Venables, Jimmy Greaves. They were exhilarating to watch. They won FA Cup in 1970 and had a long hiatus until the money turned up with Abramhovic. They won nothing till Jose turned up. Spent lots of money and did well and changed image and again struggling now. Here is my point. I’m sure in that period, Chelsea fans loved their team playing exciting football and not winning trophies BECAUSE they had a team they felt was home grown and played a certain way. Crystal Palace, the entertainers also did the same. As your memory is so bad Simon I am sure you have forgotten this too. Terry Venables won Palace promotion all the way from the Third Division to the top of the First Division in his stint as boss. He had youngsters such as Kenny Sansom, Vince Hilaire, Dave Swindlehurst Billy Gilbert. ALL promoted from the ACADEMY like West Ham to assemble his young and attacking side. The moral is Remember where you came from and what you can achieve with your academy. If you don’t know learn. As I said earlier, ONLY 1 club win the League every year and 19 fail to do so. As always money will buy success BUT most [maybe 18/20] wont be able to achieve their lofty aims with the current rules around finance. It's NOT a level playing field and it NEVER has been, grow up, accept the inevitable and support your club and encourage them to play attractive football to entice more fans to experience what WE ALL DID starting on our football journey. Just because you and/or Moyes doesn’t understand loyalty of and to players coming through academy doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. In those days you managed what you had, not spend billions playing football manager. Good luck for new season. Edward
Chelsea were winning League Cups and FA Cups and beating Barcelona in the Champions League at Stamford Bridge 5/6 years before Roman arrived, otherwise nice post points well made Sir.
I'll tell you what the West Ham way is David, it's NOT setting up every single game to defend/draw only to concede nearly 80 goals in a season! I really appreciate Europe and the cup but his playing style is prehistoric! Glad we moved on.
No its nothing like the west han under Moyes. It was so wierd seeing West ham winning european trophies, they are trash and doesnt deserve to win. Thank god you are back to you old ways now
I'm not a West Ham fan, so I've no axe to grind with the club. But Moyes's assertion that West Ham should be about mid table baffles me. It's a club in London, and a club with the highest average attendance of all London clubs. Mid table? I don't accept that, and I don't think West Ham fans do either.
Are they better than Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, United, Villa, Newcastle ? The answers no. They’re midtable at best and got no chance of going any higher.
@@matthewjamisonhardly. We've been a stable Premier league club for 12 years now finishing in European positions 4 or 5 times, that's more than the times we've fought against relegation. Only the sky 6 and Everton have been consistently in the Premier league more than us.
@SavvasWHUFC in the last 21 years ya's have been relegated twice, nearly got relegated loads of other times & finished a few seasons mid table. A few European place finishes & 3rd rate European trophy don't change that tale
@@matthewjamison relegated twice is literally nothing in the grand scheme of things considering that we came up immediately the second time around. Every club bar the privileged 6 has fought relegation loads of times even Villa Everton Newcastle it's not really that unusual. Difference is we've won a trophy in a competition that clubs like Villa or Spurs failed at. Only dumb people turn their nose up at a trophy.
@SavvasWHUFC Well, it does mean something when I'm saying the West Ham way is fighting relegation. Going down twice & scrapping for survival until the last 5 games of the season most other year's, proves my point
It's the Ron Greenwood /John Lyall way of playing. We may not have been consistent in the league but we entertained and attacked. Harry Redknapp gave it a good go too. It's the style of play that made a lot of people with no links to east London become Hammers fans. I was never Moyes out, I appreciated his efforts and the stability he brought but the style of play was often a tough watch, particularly in the final two seasons.
"It's the style of play that made a lot of people with no links to east London become Hammers fans. " what you said brought a tear in my eye.. I've been following actively since 1984/85 (relegation threatened season) from afar. Yes, indeed, the West Ham way is a very distinct style of play that I dont witness anymore probably after Lyall's departure. I read that it has roots from the late 50s, Ted Fenton era, inspired by the then very successful Hungary team. One touch football, quick and short passes and if we do score at the end, a sight to behold, entertaining! In fact, I saw traces of this style embedded in the 80s Norwich City team, guess who, Ken Brown was their manager.. I hope one day I can compile the existing footages altogether for those who didnt know what it was. There's little identity today in most football teams, just only wanting to stay among the riches.
@@user-FEFe What you describe is the West Ham I love. An attacking mindset, one touch and beautiful goals. I was a regular from around the same time as you. First North bank then the South bank until it closed. We had a good time supporting the lads even when we didn't win. If I felt the crowd gave it their best I'd go home happy regardless of the result. I haven't been to home games much since the seats came in as I moved up north and haven't been at all since the stadium move as I moved abroad. Agreed on Ken Brown's Norwich team. Lovely to watch and had some success too.
Just a quick note. Pelligrini converted Dec from a CB to a DM. His development was pretty natural aswell. I think the best thing you did for Dec was bring in Tomas, as prior, he was carrying Nobes and Wilshire. But Rice's progression had other people involved. Pelligrini for the position change, Noble for big brothering him, you for bringing in Tomas, Tomas himself, his family, himself, the fans. Everyone.
Dec has gone missing now in two tournament for England ....poor against villa and other games for arsnela when it came to the crunch ...champ league knock out games as well he was so poor ....fine player but that's it he couldn't pace the top players boots
@@ThePADRAIG9 He's a DM with the qualities of an 8. Rices performances are always dependent on his partner. Rice will do what's necessary given the profile of whoever is playing next to him. Bellingham should have played as an 8 in that tournament. I'm obviously a West Ham fan and the second we got paid 105 million for him, i moved on, though I must say, i still have a sof spot as he's a good lad. My dad and brothers are Arsenal fans aswell, so when I see them enjoying Rice as much as I did, i get it (though my bro does try to wind me up with the one more year song lol) The way I look at Rice now is totally objectively and Southgate was a massive reason Rice didn't shine that tournament. Rice is a world class DM, make no mistake about that. The midfield should have been Rice, Bellingham, Palmer.
@@damiandamico4715 how can you say he's a world class DM ......he's literally not ....he's not fit to lace makelele kante Keane Vieiras boots ...he has let two tournaments literally pass him by now....widely respected pundits Carragher Neville Souness Keane all say he's not elite in the DM position and if anything Arteta has noticed this so had to start playing him as an 8
@@ThePADRAIG9 If Rice played for Man United or Liverpool, they would suck him dry every week. If you are getting your football opinions from Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher, I feel sorry for you. Neville still thinks Man United are going to mount a title charge ffs! LOOOOOOOOOL
The West Ham way - passing, moving, skilful, exciting, players that get the crowd excited - it doesn't often mean winning but that is the West Ham way - playing with a certain style. Moyes was successful, I like him, he seems intelligent and knowledgeable about football but the games were absolutely dire last few seasons - is it his fault or the fault of the players
@@PresidentSquigglyMiggly Thank you. I grew up in the era of Stuart Slater running at people. Julian Dicks tackling people without any thought other than let's win the ball. Ian Bishop spraying balls around. Players that you spoke about as you made your way to the ground. Young players coming through - Defoe, Lampard, Ferdinand. And then of course Payet and Di Canio - wizards with the ball and worth the entrance money alone. I'm expecting us to become a carbon copy of the Spanish Mens Team and win the league, FA Cup and Champions League and then in 2030 supply the players to win the World Cup for England. COYI.
No doubt his phone will be ringing when a club slips into the bottom half of the table with a string of defeats and needs some stability and ultimately premier league survival. As all managers at West Ham will find out, the fans are completely delusional - they’re average… Moyes has won more silverware with West Ham compared to the last 7, 8 or 9 West Ham managers combined. He hasn’t been linked to another club due to ‘branding’ not because of his ability.
Mate. We’ve just seen Kompany go to Bayern and Maresca go to Chelsea…. So clearlyyy there’s no shortage of Demand for good Managers. So I have no doubt he has PLENTY of job offers… Even the Scotland job properly. He most likely just wants a break & set back and wait for the right Job for him.
That’s the 2nd interview I’ve seen with him where he’s not held to account over the role he played at Sunderland. I’m not saying he destroyed us, but Sam had us pointing in the right direction before he turned up, and he quickly changed that
For a long time I thought he was not to blame for what happened at Sunderland, until I saw they finished with 24 points and then you have to look at the Manager. He is quite capable of relegating another club. We were involved in a 35 game relegation battle with a good squad the previous season
He wasn't to blame for the financial situation at the club, but we finished the previous season on a high. We needed some back up for Defoe, decent midfielder, maybe centre half back up and a right back. Wouldn't have been easy and some would have needed to be loans, but instead he came in and hit the whole place with a bomb, was conceding relegation from the 2nd game in and banished so many players rather than manage them and then manage them out of the club if he didn't want them. The way he signed ex Everton players was beyond comprehension, especially giving money to Everton for the likes of Gibson and Oviedo. Clearly he's got a decent record in a few other jobs, but I've rarely seen mismanagement like it and I've seen some absolute sh*te as a Safc fan!
Stripped a team starting to gel n filled it with the relics of his former Everton side… absolute joke of a manager at least for us. Some of the big money signings he made are possibly some of the worst professional footballers iv ever seen.
This is now my go to when i go to sleep. Ive not watched it all yet as i drop off after about 2 minutes every night so its doing its job. Its all me me me me with this bloke. I wonder what top 10 premier league club will give him a job...... none thats who ⚒👍
It's playing entertaining football win or lose ( the latter part something which managers don't understand). No west ham fan wants to watch the other team have 80% possession and win 1 nil against a side that they should be beating at home anyway. Different if you're playing a Man City etc. Fans seeing us going all out and playing well but losing in that way wouldn't have an issue with it. When we had Zola and a much poorer team of players we still managed to play some good football. No one can argue what Moyes achieved at the club and I wanted him to stay, but why he went from playing good entertaining football in the first year or so to trying to play more defensively with attacking players like Kudus wasn't what fans want
@@LB-zr1vrI think Bilic's time at the club makes you right. Even when it was dire--and it was very dire--the fans never turned on him, or the style of play.
@@garethshaw5165 The West Ham Way is having a go at teams, especially the bigger clubs.For example winning the FA cup against Arsenal while still in the old second division. Following season winning promotion by the highest number of points playing proper football, getting to the league cup final against Liverpool, which they should have won. Dodgy refereeing, Sammy Lee miles offside. I wouldn’t expect Moyes to know what the West Ham way is. He is usually beaten when the fixture list comes out.
Alonso was also relegated with Sociedad. He's a young coach and did his best. If he had had more time, it might have been more successful. Who knows. But you cant blame him...
Really great interview again - love him or hate him this show is really good and one of the few I watch every episode as it comes out! (Overlap is good too) As always cuts straight through the nonthenth :D
I wonder if Jordan will bring up the hushed up issue that Moyes got sacked from the Talksports Euro commentary team because he was constantly talking down to the other guests & presenters?
@jamesburke2094 I juat sat through 4 years of moyesball. It's fucking tedious. Can live with it whwn results go the right way, but in the league past 2 years we've been atrocious
Moyes did well for us at the hammers and his name will always be recognised as finally winning us a trophy after a 43 year drought - Good luck Dave and God Bless ⚒
Moyes knows what the West Ham way is, it’s entertaining the fans with good football. It’s the same as the Arsenal way,the Spurs way etc. He defends Southgate for getting England to Semi Finals and Finals as being successful. On paper yes but I can’t stand watching England play, especially with the talent we have that has been stifled. Moyes was really important for us in his early days and he changed our club for the better. It was simply time to move on with a manager they may be able to take us to a higher level playing the West Ham way !!
Good show. There are some that wouldn’t have the nuts to ask some of those questions, and there are some who wouldn’t answer them with such good grace.
Disapointed he hasn't the balls to go properly in on John Terry though .like really go in on him ....for all talk Simon does of not being afraid of anyone or intimatidated by anyone he really let himself down there
Moyes talking about getting to the Quarter Final of the Champions League with Man United as if it's a huge achievement tells you exactly why he should never have got that job.
Well ten Haag got embarrassed in the group stage last season and brainless united fans still defend ten Haag. Dont expect smart things from drunk sellout fans.
@@HappyRareGrooveMan It does matter. And we will progress. The group has already strengthened. The side need a fresh set of ideas because moyes lost the plot last season. We ended up with JWP left wing last season. You cant be in that position if your a serious PL side.
Was not the Manager I wanted but I would be surprised if we don't get top 8.finished 9th with an ageibg squad, a predictable manager, and very low possession stats.
Clearly I can't stand Moyes and this 'interview' is a classic example why. His tone & manner in this interview is 'I want to come across as really likeable to get another job'. When he was (often) interviewed by journo's when he'd stunk the place out at a West Ham game last season his tone & manner was aggressive, surly, short tempered and bullying. A 2 faced narcissist who the game has passed by. You've made a small fortune Moyes, just go away now.
So you’re comparing his attitude in a comfy interview to after a game where there’s pressure, adrenaline etc of a game and your surprised he’s acting differently lol
I think this man has experience in football not many managers in the world still working have. Not sure how old you are but, only fergie and wenger have managed more premier League games than this man. Got West Ham into Europe (Poundland Europe) and won the thing literally last year. He doesn’t play great football, but still delivers results. As a West Ham fan (not sure if you are?!) you will reminisce about moyes as one of the best managers you ever had. West Ham won’t will fuck all in the next 5 years, even ten years.
Defensive football and conceding over 70 goals. The most in our history. Fulham put 5 past us, Newcastle 5, villa 4, Liverpool 5, Chelsea 5, palace 5, arsenal 6. Embarrassing!!
Can anybody tell me where the queue of all the top prem club for Moyes's signature that talksport & JORDAN said would happen actually is please? Best thing we've done for years was to sack Moyes.
He is old and because fans rather want to see "good football" then win European trophies. And these are the fans who wanted to sell their clubs to America, UAE and Saudi its hilarious 😂
@@Cedisdead wee millenials, if west ham arent sucsessful then its ok they will go and support someone else, I can see them ow sat at hom watching sky sports in their real madrid replica shirts screaming like mark goldbridge and crying because the team they chose isnt winning! fucktards the lot on em ;)
Moyes is one of the last remaining dinosaurs in football. He got lucky that individual moments ended up saving him & West Ham. Sit back, hope not to concede & try & sneak a goal from a set-piece. This was his so called 'tactic' every single game. Luckily he will never manage my team in a million years.
As an Aberdeen fan I not fan of Rangers but I agreed with John Greig, "Out of the park for medals." Makes more sense than a Centre-Half trying to play out from his box.
Absolute bollocks.. Shit himself against the big 6.. Always talkin about takin a knife to a gunfight.. He stabilised club but Joe royal was miles better
Moyes was absolutely the right fit for Sunderland (my team). We'd been after him for years but it didn't work out. I've love to hear his view of things but I suspect NDA's prevent this from happening.
West ham way? It's entertainment and flair and that's why Moyes doesn't understand it . Neither did big Sam. Sure u can say we haven't played that way for years. The WHU supporters going back to 60, 70 , and early 80,s understand what it is. To understand us as WHU supporters is to know that we don't expect trophies every yr but we want to see entertainment and players enjoying the football as well as youth development. Big Sam always ridiculed the fans publicly on TV saying he doesn't know what the way is...now Moyes . When you get appointed a manager and get paid millions a yr maybe its a good idea to set aside your ego and learn about the clubs history and philosophy...unfortunately Moyes wasn't interested and that's why we never took to him or his Moyesball boring approach that got found out and had no plan B ... Like "big Sam " Moyes actually believes he is the reason WHU had success in European league that most Prem teams should of won tbh. All that said Moyes should be thanking WHU for the risk we showed employing him after no other prem club was interested. Oh and the 500 million he spent ....definitely helped ...
West Ham fan here. Part of me still sad that Moyes has gone… he done great for us & definitely broke new heights like winning trophies & got us competing in Europe. However the way we was naturally growing through this transition he unfortunately wasn’t the manager to maintain & start capitalising on the position we got in. Anyone can sit there & say I wanna be attacking and score goals but when you watch the games week in, week out. You see the ball being passed backwards and sideways it’s clear as day he’s more of a defensive manager. Nothing wrong with that… but we’ve just adapted & grown with better players. We could of kept Rice an extra year or two if we wasn’t fighting relegation the year before last which is still crazy to me because it’s the year we won a European trophy for the first time in 40 years. But I guess it was the perfect way to bow out after winning a trophy. The West Ham way is having that flare, being more attacking & not letting go of our best players aswell as having that family togetherness element. I’ll always respect Moyes for what he did & speak highly of him. However we’ve now taken a gamble on Lopetegui… let’s see if he can go to that next level & maintain being a top 8 team
served up the dullest football ever seen at West Ham, lost 20 prem games one season and conceded 74 goals last season. Wasted a fortune on players and left us with the smallest and oldest squad in the prem league.Will never get a top flight job again IMHO.
@@chrisdnz82 we gave Moyes years. We know exactly what we had. Meanwhile Moyes is free for any other club who wants him... This season will be tough for west ham because Moyes has left us needing an almost total squad rebuild.
@@chrisdnz82clueless absolutely clueless. He spent just under £500mil on players and left us with the oldest and smallest squad in the league. He's a football dinosaur. He said he wanted to set us up to not concede goals, we conceded a record amount of goals last season. He said after getting beat by Newcastle after being 3-1 up, "we've had trouble defending all season....blah blah blah......i wanted to get defensive players on to defend the lead".
I've clicked on this then paused it because I just wanted to add the following. there's nothing I want to hear from Moyes and his attempt to justify 30% possession and Simon Jordan was part of the careful what you wish for brigade so it's a waste of time. Bowen and Paqueta's moment of magic won us the trophy not Moyes. Moyes was ready for defending until penalties and Bowen and Paqueta saved us the torture thank god.
I am a West Ham season ticket holder. While alive during 1980 FA cup final, I was 1 year old. So have no memory of it. The Conference league and a play-off final are the only thing I have ever seen us win. So this is the point about the West Ham way. I accept the fact we are likely to win next to nothing. So its more important to me that we actually try and play attractive attacking football. I don't pay 1175 quid a year to endure games, I want to enjoy them. On balance the results under Moyes were decent but it could be a very hard watch, low block anti-football. We the 8th highest revenues in the league I don't think top half finishes with decent football is to much to ask
So true I'm Man Utd but always enjoyed seeing West Ham play through the years since the early 60s.Moyes did well at Everton , but dreaded him taking over from Fergie ,I like seeing fast attacking football, he would never bring that.
People love to use this term to mock us but most have same thing but just don't have a term for it. There is no exact way to play but it's to not be bored to death. To not get completely outplayed at home by relegation teams. It's not possession and do nothing with it. It could be 442 and get lots crosses in and exciting football. It could be nice patterns of play that create chances. It could be skillful individuals that get you off your seat. Really, we just want enjoy most games. Its actually opposite of an arrogant thing as we don't expect our team to win trophies so every match is a possible trophy. To go away from a game where think they had a go in every sense of the word. I don't speak for all west ham fans just my opinion.
The irony of Moyes saying if you cannot change and adapt as a manager, you are going to lose your job. 😂 Well guess what Dave, that is exactly why you never got your contract renewed. Absolutely clueless as a manager outside his ultra low block tactic. You absolutely stank the place out with your ultra predictable management. Everyone knew exactly how you were going to set up, how you were going to aproach the match, and when your subs were going to come on. And thanks for leaving us with the second oldest squad in the league, and the smallest squad in the league. All after spending £450 Million on dads army. As for the ""West Ham Way" I have supported West Ham for over 50 years, and the West Ham way is being able to play exciting, expensive football. That's all it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
Loved moyes at Everton, was devastated when he left and I still think today had he stayed when moshri come in would he have been able to have slowed it down and been the voice of reason when moshri and Kenwright was chucking money around at average players at best and getting their pants pulled down in every single deal.
West ham won something because we had the best team we have ever had and big players stepping up and carrying. NOT MOYES. And there is more potential yet. The lack of quality clearly wasnt down to the players. It was tactical issues. We won 4 games from January to the end of the season. We went from almost guaranteed europe in some form. Ended up mid table. we thank moyes. Without winning the conference league he would have been sacked the season before. It wasnt reactionary to replace him. It was coming
Exactly, and winning the cup papered over we only escaped relegation last 4 games of the season. We ended up with smallest squad and 2nd oldest because he insisted on final say on transfers, deliberate kept a small squad, and flogged that small squad to death by refusing to get in new players, recruit from academy or use substitutions correctly.
He’s good at spotting players No good at finding a striker like I no that as a Everton fan but loved the fact we played as a team and are team become attractive to watch at the end
100% pal. Our squad was worth more combined than every team we played in that tournament. Nothing against Moyes it was the football that made me go against him that’s it.
It was all Moyes haha you west fans are so delusional. You will never win a trophy again 😂😂 but hey you can enjoy your good football now instead and watch the real clubs win again.
Last one from me: He has these little moments when he realizes how big of a club we are now and all of a sudden starts saying 'we' when 5 minutes prior, he's belittling us, saying Fergie (his idol and superior) didn't understand the West Ham way, yada yada yada. He has these moments where he wishes he was still manager, probably through the realisation that it will never get better than it was. David, my friend, embrace the work you did, we appreciate your efforts. Drop the act. You know you a West Ham fan. Just give us a crossed hammers and #COYI and all will be forgiven x
Moyes disrespecting West Ham again and how lucky poor little old West Ham are to have had him - even bringing the legend John Lyall up in the conversation. No class whatsoever. I'm shocked Bayern and Liverpool weren't desperate to appoint him this summer. He'll end up in the Championship back at Preston - about his level
The fact West Ham are having to do a complete rebuild now Moyes has gone speaks volumes he left us with a tiny and old squad , good riddance Moyes go and haunt another club if you can find one.
Not really! 😂😂😂 look at what he did! He made you solid you won Europe! Don't talk utter rubbish! Your spending like mad now it means nothing if they don't perform!
We spent nearly half a billion under Moyes and lost money on about ten players. Thanks for achievements he had with us and improving our rep, but we had no long term plan, he was not prepared to work under a Director of Football. It was just time for him to go. He knew that.
As a Gooner- Although touched with the benefit of hindsight, i think Utd would have been far better off sticking with David- though even at the time i thought his sacking was premature. Secondly, I hope West Ham fans will appreciate what he did for them more as the years pass- i think he deserves a lot more respect from them than he currently gets.
For all of you asking what the Westham Way is, I'll make it easy for you. Playing attractive , attacking football, and consistently and comfortably finishing top half of the premier league table.
Dismantling his legacy every time he speaks and let's his bitterness show. I loved it when he turned our club around and I really thought he 'got' West Ham, but the more power he had from the board, the more it went to his head and his control freakery was his downfall. I stuck up for him for so long, but ended up sick of the sight of him and his yes-men lackey staff who couldn't 'coach' themselves out of a paper bag. Just keep quiet, David and don't dig yourself a bigger hole than is necessary.
This is a guy that took a team that finished 11 points clear of Man City, who’d been champions in 2012, and dragged them down to 7th. With the help of Phil Neville. Fergies coaches were top notch, they were there for a reason
The team Fergie left behind needed a rebuild. Anyone with a brain can see that. Wenger and Klopp left their teams in a great position, Pep will do the same.
Anyone with brain eh? Wenger did not leave Arsenal in good shape. I wasn’t expecting Moyes to win the League. I wasn’t expecting him to finish 7th either…
@@ItsUnitedAgain how many of his players were in the FA Cup winning team 2 years after he left? . He left them with a great stadium, not one that needs tearing down. Arsenal have actually being in a genuine title race, United were left in such a poor state you are still waiting for one. SAF helped pick Moyes....
Moyes made a lot of money from football for a mediocre manager, talks about Ferguson & Wenger in the same breath is stretching a point. His away record against the top clubs is horrendous in 21 years of management. Talking about having a strong defence when winning 5 out of 24 games, conceding 74 goals, and nobody mentioned the top job he did with Sunderland. After almost 5 years West Ham were left with a bunch of burnt out pensioners to clear out after him. As usual gas lighting the nieve & gullible.
He won a European trophy at relegation threatened West Ham ! Let that sink in. Everton finished in the top 4 above Liverpool the season they won the CL v AC Milan
@@Mil-w6d And why were his team in relegation contention? Rice & Paqueta in midfield,apparently world class midfielders, playing the likes of FC Larnaca, Silkborg,Genk . 74 goals conceded after spending a small fortune on players, whom he later sold for a fraction of their value, Vlasic as an example, also had a stint at Everton. Not to mention the bore factor.
I must say watching England at the Euros was like watching the Hammers last season. Best players out of position, reluctance to make subs, allowing opposition possession.
Mad… he did well for u pricks
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Leverkusen 2nd leg. West ham way summed up in one match. Heart guts passion and walked off the pitch to 60000 fans chanting their names!
Heart guts and passion are just three words to mean the same thing 😂
so just play hard? that's just the bare minimum that any fanbase expects lmao
The 1st leg away - 33 shots to 1 I think according to the stats
A cup team then?
That doesn't happen w3ek in, week out in the league.
Basically tinpot where every now and aga8n 69u get yourselves up for a big game
You ll never match Tottenham Hotspur.
To anyone who wants to see what West Ham fans were frustrated about under Moyes, go and watch Newcastle vs West Ham last season. We lost a game we could have won by four. Our attacking players were ripping Newcastle to shreds, the minute we got the lead, he bottled it and tried to shut up shop with about 35 - 40 minutes to play. He robbed the attacking players of a wonderful performance, the club of a result that could have seen us back in Europe, and the away fans of a thrilling showing after a 6 hour trip up north. It was painful. It was like a boxer winning the first six rounds and then being told by their coach to not punch for the next six..
He knew they couldn’t keep it up for the entire game
@@damiandamico4715 why that one? You could’ve picked another 25!
I rated Moyes for the results that he got (overall, better than almost all of our previous managers), but tbh I don´t go to the games as I live abroad - I know that lots of our fans just couldn´t handle his defence-first approach, lack of rotation, very late & too ineffective substitutions. But, I think that was the moment psychologically where we blew any chance of really believing we were gonna get back into Europe again at the end of last season. NUFC were really suffering with injuries in their defence in that game & time of season, so we could have gone for the throat there. Again, on the other hand, I don´t think we could have handled another season in Europe with our small squad size and lack of depth & our transfer policy & his reluctance to operate anything like a big enough squad (aside from our board being too tight as well most of the time). I think he would´ve still been our manager if he had somehow got us back into Europe again - but it´s prob for the best that he left ´cos the ´project´ & team was running out of steam.
Well you got rid of him ... Let's see what West Ham football gets you now .. 😂😂
Probably the same thing it got you before Moyes
Be careful what you wish for West Ham fans think they are better then they are remember when moyes left before you was fighting relegation 😂😂 funny club
That was one of the best interviews you have done Simon; David was very honest & engaging.
The West Ham Way to me is the traditions served under managers Greenwood and Lyall attempting to play attacking football with technique and flair and bringing youngsters through the Academy. Also giving the Club a family feel with good habits installed throughout the Club. A lot of it died with the sacking of Lyall although Bonds brought it back a little and on the pitch the teams of Redknapp were typical West Ham teams. Sure it wasn't overly successful but it must have been a decent philosophy in cups anyway considering Greenwood won FA Cup and Cup Winners Cup and Lyall won two FA Cups, a League Cup Final and still holds the clubs highest place finish.
As a 61 year old evertonian, I grew up the school of science. I like West Ham, proper working class people and proper club. Moyes revolutionised Everton, school of science was dead and gone. Respect and admire David and the play not to lose mentality cost Everton trophies. Pleased he won at West Ham but as they say, be careful what you wish for. Tofffees not had a good day since he left. Good luck this season
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"Be careful what you wish for"....is that phrase used in ANY other walk of life other than lobbed at football fans?
It's like saying "don't dare to dream".
💯% & anyone that doesn't know this doesn't know west ham!
Spot on analysis - I forgot to add - the ethos of bringing exciting young players through maintaining a link to the area
The West Ham way is everything that Moyes isn’t, wasn’t and never will be. A manager who has an attacking exciting philosophy of football.
If you were an England fan that was frustrated by the way England played with the talent they had in the euros, Moyes was EXACTLY the same at West Ham. best way to describe it. Kudus, Bowen, Paqueta, Ward Prowse, Alvarez and playing a low block hoping for set pieces. Still an absolute legend of the game but that was the truth of it.
Wouldn’t go as far to call him an absolute legend. Yh he’s been about for a while. Done f all
Wouldn’t go as far to call him an absolute legend. Yh he’s been about for a while. Done f all
@@tatetime101 First trophy for west ham in years
Get 🏆them irrelevant how
@@fds3415oh really, people should mention that more.... Zzz zzz.
Hi Simon.
I’m 75 and avid West Ham fan.
I watched your podcast with David Moyes and as you both professed ignorance of the West Ham way I thought I would enlighten you.
It’s quite simple really.
The West Ham way is training our own academy players since late 50s/early 60s to play for the club in 1st team.
It was very successful, in those days for a middle league team in terms of finance and history.
I’m guessing that when we won
FA Cup 1964,
European Cup Winners Cup (2nd British team to win European trophy after Spurs) 1965, and before Celtic, the Lions of Lisbon gloriously won in 1967.
FA Cup 1975
FA Cup 1980 we had pride in our home-grown players in our team.
The FA Cup was our first trophy win since we lost in 1923 to Bolton, The White Horse Final, the first at Wembley.
Important point you ALL forget.
ONLY 1 team wins Premier League each season, leaving 19 failures, some valiant, some poor, some rich, some struggling.
We accept that we won’t win league, statistically, even though Leicester did. it happens once in a blue moon, less now.
No English manager has won Premier League as far as I know, since 1992-1993 I believe.
The last one was Howard Wilkinson with Leeds the year prior to Premier League starting.
Some of our wonderful West Ham Academy players.
Declan Rice
Bobby Moore
Frank Lampard Junior & Senior
Paul Ince
Geoff Hurst
Rio Ferdinand
Anton Ferdinand
Joe Cole
Martin Peters
Michael Carrick
Sir Trevor Brooking
Glen Johnson
Mark Noble
I’ll give you context with 2 other teams, NEITHER is OLD SCHOOL ELITE.
Chelsea.
I used to watch them occasionally in late sixties when West Ham were away I would go to Stamford Bridge and other local London DIV 1 teams.
They won Div 1 in 1954-55 I think with lowest points ever.
The in mid to late sixties they had a marvellous youthful side.
Chelsea academy players, managed by Dave Sexton, ex West Ham player from 1952-1955.
Ron Harris,
Allan Harris,
Peter Bonetti,
Bobby Tambling,
Barry Bridges,
Bert Murray,
John Hollins,
Peter Osgood,
Ray Wilkins,
Graeme Le Saux,
Bobby Smith,
Terry Venables,
Jimmy Greaves.
They were exhilarating to watch.
They won FA Cup in 1970 and had a long hiatus until the money turned up with Abramhovic.
They won nothing till Jose turned up.
Spent lots of money and did well and changed image and again struggling now.
Here is my point.
I’m sure in that period, Chelsea fans loved their team playing exciting football and not winning trophies BECAUSE they had a team they felt was home grown and played a certain way.
Crystal Palace, the entertainers also did the same.
As your memory is so bad Simon I am sure you have forgotten this too.
Terry Venables won Palace promotion all the way from the Third Division to the top of the First Division in his stint as boss.
He had youngsters such as
Kenny Sansom,
Vince Hilaire,
Dave Swindlehurst
Billy Gilbert.
ALL promoted from the ACADEMY like West Ham to assemble his young and attacking side.
The moral is
Remember where you came from and what you can achieve with your academy.
If you don’t know learn.
As I said earlier, ONLY 1 club win the League every year and 19 fail to do so.
As always money will buy success BUT most [maybe 18/20] wont be able to achieve their lofty aims with the current rules around finance.
It's NOT a level playing field and it NEVER has been, grow up, accept the inevitable and support your club and encourage them to play attractive football to entice more fans to experience what WE ALL DID starting on our football journey.
Just because you and/or Moyes doesn’t understand loyalty of and to players coming through academy doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
In those days you managed what you had, not spend billions playing football manager.
Good luck for new season.
Edward
Fantastic and thorough comment. Let's hope Lopetegui gets the West Ham way.
I don't support West Ham but I like what you said
I don't support West Ham but I like what you said
Chelsea were winning League Cups and FA Cups and beating Barcelona in the Champions League at Stamford Bridge 5/6 years before Roman arrived, otherwise nice post points well made Sir.
You can play academy players with a low block though? Which is what he supposedly got the sack for - was he not playing academy players?
I'll tell you what the West Ham way is David, it's NOT setting up every single game to defend/draw only to concede nearly 80 goals in a season! I really appreciate Europe and the cup but his playing style is prehistoric! Glad we moved on.
Enjoy your attacking football in the bottom half and nowhere near another European trophy 😂😂😂
@@Noisehead101 Yeah? Lets see, out of interest who do you follow??
Attacking football? Just brought in Lopetegui so they'll be Moyes style just worse 😂😂😂😂
@@jamiewm best team in the country
No its nothing like the west han under Moyes. It was so wierd seeing West ham winning european trophies, they are trash and doesnt deserve to win. Thank god you are back to you old ways now
That's probably the most moyes statement ever
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Well, that's just like....your opinion, man...
I'm not a West Ham fan, so I've no axe to grind with the club.
But Moyes's assertion that West Ham should be about mid table baffles me.
It's a club in London, and a club with the highest average attendance of all London clubs.
Mid table? I don't accept that, and I don't think West Ham fans do either.
Are they better than Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, United, Villa, Newcastle ? The answers no. They’re midtable at
best and got no chance of going any higher.
They can be better than Newcastle and villa with out a doubt
U muppet @@BennyBlanco481 villa and newcastle betrer than West Ham 😂😂😂. 🤡🖕
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No one talks about the West Ham Way more than the media
The West Ham way is fighting relegation
@@matthewjamisonhardly. We've been a stable Premier league club for 12 years now finishing in European positions 4 or 5 times, that's more than the times we've fought against relegation. Only the sky 6 and Everton have been consistently in the Premier league more than us.
@SavvasWHUFC in the last 21 years ya's have been relegated twice, nearly got relegated loads of other times & finished a few seasons mid table. A few European place finishes & 3rd rate European trophy don't change that tale
@@matthewjamison relegated twice is literally nothing in the grand scheme of things considering that we came up immediately the second time around. Every club bar the privileged 6 has fought relegation loads of times even Villa Everton Newcastle it's not really that unusual. Difference is we've won a trophy in a competition that clubs like Villa or Spurs failed at. Only dumb people turn their nose up at a trophy.
@SavvasWHUFC Well, it does mean something when I'm saying the West Ham way is fighting relegation. Going down twice & scrapping for survival until the last 5 games of the season most other year's, proves my point
How I wish Simon would interview José.
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Jack of all, master of none
It's the Ron Greenwood /John Lyall way of playing. We may not have been consistent in the league but we entertained and attacked. Harry Redknapp gave it a good go too. It's the style of play that made a lot of people with no links to east London become Hammers fans.
I was never Moyes out, I appreciated his efforts and the stability he brought but the style of play was often a tough watch, particularly in the final two seasons.
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"It's the style of play that made a lot of people with no links to east London become Hammers fans. "
what you said brought a tear in my eye.. I've been following actively since 1984/85 (relegation threatened season) from afar. Yes, indeed, the West Ham way is a very distinct style of play that I dont witness anymore probably after Lyall's departure. I read that it has roots from the late 50s, Ted Fenton era, inspired by the then very successful Hungary team.
One touch football, quick and short passes and if we do score at the end, a sight to behold, entertaining! In fact, I saw traces of this style embedded in the 80s Norwich City team, guess who, Ken Brown was their manager..
I hope one day I can compile the existing footages altogether for those who didnt know what it was.
There's little identity today in most football teams, just only wanting to stay among the riches.
@@user-FEFe What you describe is the West Ham I love. An attacking mindset, one touch and beautiful goals.
I was a regular from around the same time as you. First North bank then the South bank until it closed. We had a good time supporting the lads even when we didn't win. If I felt the crowd gave it their best I'd go home happy regardless of the result. I haven't been to home games much since the seats came in as I moved up north and haven't been at all since the stadium move as I moved abroad.
Agreed on Ken Brown's Norwich team. Lovely to watch and had some success too.
@WilsonWilson33 this is one move that I considered as the West Ham way..
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@@user-FEFe I agree, Seems like us fans have a clear idea what the West Ham way is even if old managers don't.
Just a quick note. Pelligrini converted Dec from a CB to a DM. His development was pretty natural aswell. I think the best thing you did for Dec was bring in Tomas, as prior, he was carrying Nobes and Wilshire. But Rice's progression had other people involved. Pelligrini for the position change, Noble for big brothering him, you for bringing in Tomas, Tomas himself, his family, himself, the fans. Everyone.
No mate, that’s rubbish. It was all down to Moyes. He’s always said so.
Dec has gone missing now in two tournament for England ....poor against villa and other games for arsnela when it came to the crunch ...champ league knock out games as well he was so poor ....fine player but that's it he couldn't pace the top players boots
@@ThePADRAIG9 He's a DM with the qualities of an 8. Rices performances are always dependent on his partner. Rice will do what's necessary given the profile of whoever is playing next to him. Bellingham should have played as an 8 in that tournament. I'm obviously a West Ham fan and the second we got paid 105 million for him, i moved on, though I must say, i still have a sof spot as he's a good lad. My dad and brothers are Arsenal fans aswell, so when I see them enjoying Rice as much as I did, i get it (though my bro does try to wind me up with the one more year song lol) The way I look at Rice now is totally objectively and Southgate was a massive reason Rice didn't shine that tournament. Rice is a world class DM, make no mistake about that. The midfield should have been Rice, Bellingham, Palmer.
@@damiandamico4715 how can you say he's a world class DM ......he's literally not ....he's not fit to lace makelele kante Keane Vieiras boots ...he has let two tournaments literally pass him by now....widely respected pundits Carragher Neville Souness Keane all say he's not elite in the DM position and if anything Arteta has noticed this so had to start playing him as an 8
@@ThePADRAIG9 If Rice played for Man United or Liverpool, they would suck him dry every week. If you are getting your football opinions from Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher, I feel sorry for you. Neville still thinks Man United are going to mount a title charge ffs! LOOOOOOOOOL
The West Ham way - passing, moving, skilful, exciting, players that get the crowd excited - it doesn't often mean winning but that is the West Ham way - playing with a certain style. Moyes was successful, I like him, he seems intelligent and knowledgeable about football but the games were absolutely dire last few seasons - is it his fault or the fault of the players
Exactly mate 👍🏻. Morons like him try and twist it!
We have a winner. Agree 100% COYI
@@PresidentSquigglyMiggly Thank you. I grew up in the era of Stuart Slater running at people. Julian Dicks tackling people without any thought other than let's win the ball. Ian Bishop spraying balls around. Players that you spoke about as you made your way to the ground. Young players coming through - Defoe, Lampard, Ferdinand. And then of course Payet and Di Canio - wizards with the ball and worth the entrance money alone. I'm expecting us to become a carbon copy of the Spanish Mens Team and win the league, FA Cup and Champions League and then in 2030 supply the players to win the World Cup for England. COYI.
And getting relegated
@@KOA0693 yeah that’s right 42 points glen roeder the worst manager ever
👎🏻
The fact that he hasn't been linked to any club speaks volumes about how everyone sees him
No doubt his phone will be ringing when a club slips into the bottom half of the table with a string of defeats and needs some stability and ultimately premier league survival. As all managers at West Ham will find out, the fans are completely delusional - they’re average… Moyes has won more silverware with West Ham compared to the last 7, 8 or 9 West Ham managers combined. He hasn’t been linked to another club due to ‘branding’ not because of his ability.
That's complete nonsense. U are a typical prawn sandwich brigade member @Rooney8MUFC
Mate.
We’ve just seen Kompany go to Bayern and Maresca go to Chelsea….
So clearlyyy there’s no shortage of Demand for good Managers.
So I have no doubt he has PLENTY of job offers…
Even the Scotland job properly.
He most likely just wants a break & set back and wait for the right Job for him.
He’s a useless bitter bastard
Why did your shower of shit hound him out then?
That’s the 2nd interview I’ve seen with him where he’s not held to account over the role he played at Sunderland.
I’m not saying he destroyed us, but Sam had us pointing in the right direction before he turned up, and he quickly changed that
For a long time I thought he was not to blame for what happened at Sunderland, until I saw they finished with 24 points and then you have to look at the Manager. He is quite capable of relegating another club. We were involved in a 35 game relegation battle with a good squad the previous season
Referring to West ham
He wasn't to blame for the financial situation at the club, but we finished the previous season on a high. We needed some back up for Defoe, decent midfielder, maybe centre half back up and a right back. Wouldn't have been easy and some would have needed to be loans, but instead he came in and hit the whole place with a bomb, was conceding relegation from the 2nd game in and banished so many players rather than manage them and then manage them out of the club if he didn't want them. The way he signed ex Everton players was beyond comprehension, especially giving money to Everton for the likes of Gibson and Oviedo.
Clearly he's got a decent record in a few other jobs, but I've rarely seen mismanagement like it and I've seen some absolute sh*te as a Safc fan!
Stripped a team starting to gel n filled it with the relics of his former Everton side… absolute joke of a manager at least for us. Some of the big money signings he made are possibly some of the worst professional footballers iv ever seen.
Met David at a Nike Store in NYC several years ago. Great guy, and this interview confirms it. Best of luck!
When Moyes was there were all the Nike shoes in the back and none up front on display?
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This is now my go to when i go to sleep. Ive not watched it all yet as i drop off after about 2 minutes every night so its doing its job.
Its all me me me me with this bloke. I wonder what top 10 premier league club will give him a job...... none thats who ⚒👍
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This is legit one of my favorite shows
I’m no West Ham fan but, my understanding of “The West Ham Way” is passing, attacking football. Simple as that to me
Play to entertain the paying punters. It really is as simple as that.
It's playing entertaining football win or lose ( the latter part something which managers don't understand). No west ham fan wants to watch the other team have 80% possession and win 1 nil against a side that they should be beating at home anyway. Different if you're playing a Man City etc. Fans seeing us going all out and playing well but losing in that way wouldn't have an issue with it. When we had Zola and a much poorer team of players we still managed to play some good football. No one can argue what Moyes achieved at the club and I wanted him to stay, but why he went from playing good entertaining football in the first year or so to trying to play more defensively with attacking players like Kudus wasn't what fans want
@@LB-zr1vrI think Bilic's time at the club makes you right. Even when it was dire--and it was very dire--the fans never turned on him, or the style of play.
@@garethshaw5165
The West Ham Way is having a go at teams, especially the bigger clubs.For example winning the FA cup against Arsenal while still in the old second division.
Following season winning promotion by the highest number of points playing proper football, getting to the league cup final against Liverpool, which they should have won.
Dodgy refereeing, Sammy Lee miles offside.
I wouldn’t expect Moyes to know what the West Ham way is.
He is usually beaten when the fixture list comes out.
Absolutely bang on mate
It's definitely not 20% possession against almost every team we played. How would you know, you only know one way of playing football. Low block
Kompany thought only of himself, it is as simple as that. He knew Burnley would go down playing that way.
I think you're being a bit harsh. The owners and him would have decided how to play together or else he would have been sacked
@@nikhil21476I'm sure the owners would have preferred to stay up no matter the style let's be honest
They went because the players weren't good enough. End of.
Alonso was also relegated with Sociedad. He's a young coach and did his best. If he had had more time, it might have been more successful. Who knows. But you cant blame him...
The owners should’ve sacked him or backed him; they knew he wanted to stick to his philosophy…
Really respect that you asked him some difficult questions and put him on the spot
Thank you for everything you've done for West Ham.
I had a good nap listening to this.
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No. He's crap.@@MacroAfrik
Really great interview again - love him or hate him this show is really good and one of the few I watch every episode as it comes out! (Overlap is good too)
As always cuts straight through the nonthenth :D
I wonder if Jordan will bring up the hushed up issue that Moyes got sacked from the Talksports Euro commentary team because he was constantly talking down to the other guests & presenters?
No doubt the chubby journo greeting about that🤣
Where'd you get that info from?
@zWelshyxX Simon been sleeping with your husband again or something, coward?! 🤣
@@PALACEKAV I'm very well connected 😜
How on earth was he sacked?
2 blokes whose egos are bigger than canary wharf
Cry more.
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
Just a small bird?
@@MW92.Brick top glasses a cream roll neck and a dog tooth blazer. 😂 you wally Rodney.
@@Smiffy-.- Damn straight, propper clobber for an episode of Minder ;O)
West Ham way is playing attacking football and nurturing young stars. Two things that Moyes refused to do at west ham.
The west ham way is winning nothing and being a nothing team floating around mid table. 😂
Finished 3rd in 86. Playing wonderful football great side. Deprived of European football cos of the ban on English clubs.
@@themanofaran lol 37 years ago.
Says a glory hunter fan .
@@HappyRareGrooveMan who?
Tedious man. Tedious football.
Congratulations.
You're a mor on.
@jamesburke2094 I juat sat through 4 years of moyesball. It's fucking tedious. Can live with it whwn results go the right way, but in the league past 2 years we've been atrocious
that's just Jordan the clown....
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Moyes did well for us at the hammers and his name will always be recognised as finally winning us a trophy after a 43 year drought - Good luck Dave and God Bless ⚒
You prat
Signed, Dave's agent
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Did brilliantly at Everton. Disappointed he never came back. Thanks Moyes 👍
Moyes comments about not being able to tell us what the “ West Ham way” is says everything. Moyes simply does not fit in East London.
Crazy you man lol seriously you were absolutely shite before he come almost getting relegated lol but anyway what ever
I think its more that than the football if i'm honest.
He won a European trophy there..
@@sevans606 so what ? Lots of West Ham fans hated the style of football and did not want to waste their time and money watching it.
@@jimpackard8059 LOL so what? he literally won something your tin pot club never does you're a middle table team calm down.
Maybe most underrated manager at Everton. Some forget how he stabilized our club for 11 yrs with little £$
His Sunderland tenure. Absolute disgrace his attitude and performance for us
Media always give him free pass on it
Can’t stand the bloke
Sunderland are an utter shambles of a club
@@ruaraidhmorrison5879for real 😆
its always somebody elses fault with david full of excuses
How many jobs was he linked with this summer?
Moyes knows what the West Ham way is, it’s entertaining the fans with good football.
It’s the same as the Arsenal way,the Spurs way etc.
He defends Southgate for getting England to Semi Finals and Finals as being successful.
On paper yes but I can’t stand watching England play, especially with the talent we have that has been stifled.
Moyes was really important for us in his early days and he changed our club for the better.
It was simply time to move on with a manager they may be able to take us to a higher level playing the West Ham way !!
Good show. There are some that wouldn’t have the nuts to ask some of those questions, and there are some who wouldn’t answer them with such good grace.
Disapointed he hasn't the balls to go properly in on John Terry though .like really go in on him ....for all talk Simon does of not being afraid of anyone or intimatidated by anyone he really let himself down there
Moyes talking about getting to the Quarter Final of the Champions League with Man United as if it's a huge achievement tells you exactly why he should never have got that job.
I think he said it in the context that they haven't been anywhere near that since really
Fergie recommended him
Well ten Haag got embarrassed in the group stage last season and brainless united fans still defend ten Haag. Dont expect smart things from drunk sellout fans.
@@davidpeters3857 Fergie demanded him and thats what got him the role.
Also shows you why Fergie should have 0 input into the club since retiring
Wow, he loves himself so much...He must be a great manager because he keeps telling us what a great manager he is..
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'West ham will be bobbing around mid table'. Hope current manager proves him wrong
That dosent matter West Ham want attacking football and not boring low block .
@@HappyRareGrooveMan It does matter. And we will progress. The group has already strengthened. The side need a fresh set of ideas because moyes lost the plot last season. We ended up with JWP left wing last season. You cant be in that position if your a serious PL side.
Was not the Manager I wanted but I would be surprised if we don't get top 8.finished 9th with an ageibg squad, a predictable manager, and very low possession stats.
@@HappyRareGrooveManYou've appointed the Spanish Moyses mate 😂
@@HappyRareGrooveMan Cant wait to see your reaction if new manager has club in bottom 3
Moyes. What a genuine man. No matter his football.
Thanks from Bobby Moore stand :) all the best Mr.
Clearly I can't stand Moyes and this 'interview' is a classic example why. His tone & manner in this interview is 'I want to come across as really likeable to get another job'. When he was (often) interviewed by journo's when he'd stunk the place out at a West Ham game last season his tone & manner was aggressive, surly, short tempered and bullying. A 2 faced narcissist who the game has passed by. You've made a small fortune Moyes, just go away now.
So you’re comparing his attitude in a comfy interview to after a game where there’s pressure, adrenaline etc of a game and your surprised he’s acting differently lol
Absolutely spot on. I look forward to the day when I never have to see or hear Moyes again. Toxic through and through.
@@andrewsmith3981 No, I'm saying he's a bullshitter. Quite simple to understand really.
I think this man has experience in football not many managers in the world still working have.
Not sure how old you are but, only fergie and wenger have managed more premier League games than this man.
Got West Ham into Europe (Poundland Europe) and won the thing literally last year.
He doesn’t play great football, but still delivers results. As a West Ham fan (not sure if you are?!) you will reminisce about moyes as one of the best managers you ever had.
West Ham won’t will fuck all in the next 5 years, even ten years.
Best manager in West ham history 😂 noone cares what you think
Defensive football and conceding over 70 goals. The most in our history. Fulham put 5 past us, Newcastle 5, villa 4, Liverpool 5, Chelsea 5, palace 5, arsenal 6. Embarrassing!!
When were you attacking? Id like to check the goals scored for that season..
“I’ve been the manager and I can’t tell you what the West Ham way is.”
Oh we know Moyesey. Trust me
Enjoyed listening
Thanks guys
It's bloody simple David, it's the exact opposite of Moyes ball
You’re right, because before him you never won & after him you won’t win
And I hate Moyes!
@@safcdavid2280enjoy league 1 next season bud
He did a great job like he said with the players he had everyone would love peps team or Liverpool squad well done david this from Leeds fan mot
West Ham way certainly weren’t your way
The west ham way? whats that then, Im struggling to see it? getting relegated, going back up? getting relegated, going back up? the west ham way.
The West ham way is never wining anything
Dave you did a decent job the first 3yrs but you’ll never be as big as West Ham regarding our stature and history ⚒️⚒️
His biggest issue was he never realised that. 8 new signings. COYI
“I’ve been the manager - I couldn’t tell you what the West Ham Way is!”
Yes David, we know.
Top player for Dunfermline back in the day, always thought and still do he will return as manager one day ( soon ) mon the Pars …
Very good! A decent man.
Can anybody tell me where the queue of all the top prem club for Moyes's signature that talksport & JORDAN said would happen actually is please? Best thing we've done for years was to sack Moyes.
He wasn't sacked...... nor was Sam. Their contracts expired
He is old and because fans rather want to see "good football" then win European trophies. And these are the fans who wanted to sell their clubs to America, UAE and Saudi its hilarious 😂
@@Cedisdead wee millenials, if west ham arent sucsessful then its ok they will go and support someone else, I can see them ow sat at hom watching sky sports in their real madrid replica shirts screaming like mark goldbridge and crying because the team they chose isnt winning! fucktards the lot on em ;)
Moyes is one of the last remaining dinosaurs in football. He got lucky that individual moments ended up saving him & West Ham. Sit back, hope not to concede & try & sneak a goal from a set-piece. This was his so called 'tactic' every single game. Luckily he will never manage my team in a million years.
As an Aberdeen fan I not fan of Rangers but I agreed with John Greig, "Out of the park for medals." Makes more sense than a Centre-Half trying to play out from his box.
Lifelong Everton fan. Heartbroken when David Moyes left EVERTON. Second only to the great Howard Kendall
Absolute bollocks.. Shit himself against the big 6.. Always talkin about takin a knife to a gunfight.. He stabilised club but Joe royal was miles better
Moyes was absolutely the right fit for Sunderland (my team). We'd been after him for years but it didn't work out. I've love to hear his view of things but I suspect NDA's prevent this from happening.
West ham way?
It's entertainment and flair and that's why Moyes doesn't understand it .
Neither did big Sam.
Sure u can say we haven't played that way for years. The WHU supporters going back to 60, 70 , and early 80,s understand what it is.
To understand us as WHU supporters is to know that we don't expect trophies every yr but we want to see entertainment and players enjoying the football as well as youth development.
Big Sam always ridiculed the fans publicly on TV saying he doesn't know what the way is...now Moyes .
When you get appointed a manager and get paid millions a yr maybe its a good idea to set aside your ego and learn about the clubs history and philosophy...unfortunately Moyes wasn't interested and that's why we never took to him or his Moyesball boring approach that got found out and had no plan B ...
Like "big Sam " Moyes actually believes he is the reason WHU had success in European league that most Prem teams should of won tbh.
All that said Moyes should be thanking WHU for the risk we showed employing him after no other prem club was interested.
Oh and the 500 million he spent ....definitely helped ...
West Ham fan here. Part of me still sad that Moyes has gone… he done great for us & definitely broke new heights like winning trophies & got us competing in Europe. However the way we was naturally growing through this transition he unfortunately wasn’t the manager to maintain & start capitalising on the position we got in. Anyone can sit there & say I wanna be attacking and score goals but when you watch the games week in, week out. You see the ball being passed backwards and sideways it’s clear as day he’s more of a defensive manager. Nothing wrong with that… but we’ve just adapted & grown with better players. We could of kept Rice an extra year or two if we wasn’t fighting relegation the year before last which is still crazy to me because it’s the year we won a European trophy for the first time in 40 years. But I guess it was the perfect way to bow out after winning a trophy. The West Ham way is having that flare, being more attacking & not letting go of our best players aswell as having that family togetherness element. I’ll always respect Moyes for what he did & speak highly of him. However we’ve now taken a gamble on Lopetegui… let’s see if he can go to that next level & maintain being a top 8 team
He’s has a fair career. But he’s never been an elite manager. The best British managers these days are not elite.
Moyes' Everton is what elite can only dream of.
Top teams now are 5h1t.
Good interview.
served up the dullest football ever seen at West Ham, lost 20 prem games one season and conceded 74 goals last season. Wasted a fortune on players and left us with the smallest and oldest squad in the prem league.Will never get a top flight job again IMHO.
He may just get one again as their are so many dumb owners
Complete nuetral here but everyone knows youl all be crying later in season as you regress again and realise what you had
@@chrisdnz82 we gave Moyes years. We know exactly what we had. Meanwhile Moyes is free for any other club who wants him... This season will be tough for west ham because Moyes has left us needing an almost total squad rebuild.
@@chrisdnz82clueless absolutely clueless. He spent just under £500mil on players and left us with the oldest and smallest squad in the league. He's a football dinosaur.
He said he wanted to set us up to not concede goals, we conceded a record amount of goals last season. He said after getting beat by Newcastle after being 3-1 up, "we've had trouble defending all season....blah blah blah......i wanted to get defensive players on to defend the lead".
@@darreno2428 he literally won a European trophy, good luck enjoying your easier on the eye relegation battles again
Well done David 👏👏You only can work with the tools you got. Let’s see how’s West Ham do this season ??
I've clicked on this then paused it because I just wanted to add the following. there's nothing I want to hear from Moyes and his attempt to justify 30% possession and Simon Jordan was part of the careful what you wish for brigade so it's a waste of time. Bowen and Paqueta's moment of magic won us the trophy not Moyes. Moyes was ready for defending until penalties and Bowen and Paqueta saved us the torture thank god.
Correct! ⚒️
Great interview
I am a West Ham season ticket holder. While alive during 1980 FA cup final, I was 1 year old. So have no memory of it. The Conference league and a play-off final are the only thing I have ever seen us win. So this is the point about the West Ham way. I accept the fact we are likely to win next to nothing. So its more important to me that we actually try and play attractive attacking football. I don't pay 1175 quid a year to endure games, I want to enjoy them. On balance the results under Moyes were decent but it could be a very hard watch, low block anti-football. We the 8th highest revenues in the league I don't think top half finishes with decent football is to much to ask
So true I'm Man Utd but always enjoyed seeing West Ham play through the years since the early 60s.Moyes did well at Everton , but dreaded him taking over from Fergie ,I like seeing fast attacking football, he would never bring that.
Moyes is class act.
Looked genuinely petrified when in charge of utd
out of his depth mate couldnt handle it didnt have the know how
Thats so true never shown any confidence, always looked worried, I hope United soon improves, I have the same feeling with ETH.
@@tonydunn3559you’ll be waiting a long time for united to become a big club again that’s if they ever do
@@NouserID2 probably not in my lifetime ,but saw all the good times.
People love to use this term to mock us but most have same thing but just don't have a term for it. There is no exact way to play but it's to not be bored to death. To not get completely outplayed at home by relegation teams. It's not possession and do nothing with it. It could be 442 and get lots crosses in and exciting football. It could be nice patterns of play that create chances. It could be skillful individuals that get you off your seat. Really, we just want enjoy most games. Its actually opposite of an arrogant thing as we don't expect our team to win trophies so every match is a possible trophy. To go away from a game where think they had a go in every sense of the word. I don't speak for all west ham fans just my opinion.
I’m surprised Moyes had the time for this given all the Premier League teams banging on his door to offer him a new job (read with sarcastic tone)
😂😂😂I'm still waiting for those fans who admired him to call him to come and coach them.
🤣🤣🤣
Very good show Simon
The irony of Moyes saying if you cannot change and adapt as a manager, you are going to lose your job. 😂 Well guess what Dave, that is exactly why you never got your contract renewed. Absolutely clueless as a manager outside his ultra low block tactic.
You absolutely stank the place out with your ultra predictable management. Everyone knew exactly how you were going to set up, how you were going to aproach the match, and when your subs were going to come on. And thanks for leaving us with the second oldest squad in the league, and the smallest squad in the league. All after spending £450 Million on dads army.
As for the ""West Ham Way" I have supported West Ham for over 50 years, and the West Ham way is being able to play exciting, expensive football. That's all it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
Agree with every single word.
@@MrWiggsy4 you agree with "the"?
Especially "the"
Loved moyes at Everton, was devastated when he left and I still think today had he stayed when moshri come in would he have been able to have slowed it down and been the voice of reason when moshri and Kenwright was chucking money around at average players at best and getting their pants pulled down in every single deal.
West ham won something because we had the best team we have ever had and big players stepping up and carrying. NOT MOYES. And there is more potential yet. The lack of quality clearly wasnt down to the players. It was tactical issues. We won 4 games from January to the end of the season. We went from almost guaranteed europe in some form. Ended up mid table. we thank moyes. Without winning the conference league he would have been sacked the season before. It wasnt reactionary to replace him. It was coming
Exactly, and winning the cup papered over we only escaped relegation last 4 games of the season. We ended up with smallest squad and 2nd oldest because he insisted on final say on transfers, deliberate kept a small squad, and flogged that small squad to death by refusing to get in new players, recruit from academy or use substitutions correctly.
He bought these players :s so yeh it’s coz of him
What was you like before he come hmmmmm
He’s good at spotting players
No good at finding a striker like I no that as a Everton fan but loved the fact we played as a team and are team become attractive to watch at the end
100% pal. Our squad was worth more combined than every team we played in that tournament. Nothing against Moyes it was the football that made me go against him that’s it.
It was all Moyes haha you west fans are so delusional. You will never win a trophy again 😂😂 but hey you can enjoy your good football now instead and watch the real clubs win again.
Last one from me: He has these little moments when he realizes how big of a club we are now and all of a sudden starts saying 'we' when 5 minutes prior, he's belittling us, saying Fergie (his idol and superior) didn't understand the West Ham way, yada yada yada. He has these moments where he wishes he was still manager, probably through the realisation that it will never get better than it was. David, my friend, embrace the work you did, we appreciate your efforts. Drop the act. You know you a West Ham fan. Just give us a crossed hammers and #COYI and all will be forgiven x
Moyes disrespecting West Ham again and how lucky poor little old West Ham are to have had him - even bringing the legend John Lyall up in the conversation. No class whatsoever. I'm shocked Bayern and Liverpool weren't desperate to appoint him this summer. He'll end up in the Championship back at Preston - about his level
Oh poor west ham got some European success buuhuu, now they will go play attractive football in Championship
You lot treated him like a toilet brush. You’ve finished no higher than 6th TWICE in your history… he’s responsible for 50% of that
Good interview with great insight. Would be good to hear an interview with Andy Carroll and his experiences in football?
The fact West Ham are having to do a complete rebuild now Moyes has gone speaks volumes he left us with a tiny and old squad , good riddance Moyes go and haunt another club if you can find one.
Not really! 😂😂😂 look at what he did! He made you solid you won Europe! Don't talk utter rubbish! Your spending like mad now it means nothing if they don't perform!
We spent nearly half a billion under Moyes and lost money on about ten players. Thanks for achievements he had with us and improving our rep, but we had no long term plan, he was not prepared to work under a Director of Football. It was just time for him to go. He knew that.
great interview again. Moyes clearly doesn´t have a Winning vibe in him.And elite players can see that. Simon wasn´t missing is bullets 😅
And that my friends is why Hammers fans disliked Moyes so much
Excellent conversation.
Simon back on the scene,glad you could pull yourself away from the marbella sunshine😅😅,great to see another episode drop
As a Gooner- Although touched with the benefit of hindsight, i think Utd would have been far better off sticking with David- though even at the time i thought his sacking was premature. Secondly, I hope West Ham fans will appreciate what he did for them more as the years pass- i think he deserves a lot more respect from them than he currently gets.
If you think so highly of him, why don’t you campaign for him to be Arsenal’s next manager.
For all of you asking what the Westham Way is, I'll make it easy for you.
Playing attractive , attacking football, and consistently and comfortably finishing top half of the premier league table.
And most importantly staying in the bottom half of the table and never win European trophies no I mean not even playing in European tournaments 😂
@@Cedisdead Dont forget going down, going up, going down going up! ;)
😅😅😅 when was this then ?
People genuinely love and hate this bloke in equal measure
We know Dave, that’s why we wanted you out
Dismantling his legacy every time he speaks and let's his bitterness show. I loved it when he turned our club around and I really thought he 'got' West Ham, but the more power he had from the board, the more it went to his head and his control freakery was his downfall. I stuck up for him for so long, but ended up sick of the sight of him and his yes-men lackey staff who couldn't 'coach' themselves out of a paper bag.
Just keep quiet, David and don't dig yourself a bigger hole than is necessary.
Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Sir Spectre and Sir Simon = Top LADS Proper Clobber
@@sammybeck4855 Sir Sammy Beck = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
A good football man fair play honest 👍
Ofc he couldnt, he couldnt tell a Striker from a Centre Back
Top bloke. He’s very humble. I like him. I’d hire him. Perhaps England job?
Moyes saying West Ham have got their money back on most players in the last few years… has he forgotten about Haller and Felipe Anderson??🤦♂️🤦♂️
Scamacca
such a humble guy
😂😂
I'd love for him to be able to say what we're all thinking, players today are cry babies who can't take any criticism
You should include Moyes along with that comment.
the definition of David Moyes
This is a guy that took a team that finished 11 points clear of Man City, who’d been champions in 2012, and dragged them down to 7th.
With the help of Phil Neville.
Fergies coaches were top notch, they were there for a reason
The team Fergie left behind needed a rebuild. Anyone with a brain can see that. Wenger and Klopp left their teams in a great position, Pep will do the same.
Anyone with brain eh?
Wenger did not leave Arsenal in good shape.
I wasn’t expecting Moyes to win the League.
I wasn’t expecting him to finish 7th either…
@@ItsUnitedAgain how many of his players were in the FA Cup winning team 2 years after he left? . He left them with a great stadium, not one that needs tearing down.
Arsenal have actually being in a genuine title race, United were left in such a poor state you are still waiting for one. SAF helped pick Moyes....
Moyes made a lot of money from football for a mediocre manager, talks about Ferguson & Wenger in the same breath is stretching a point.
His away record against the top clubs is horrendous in 21 years of management.
Talking about having a strong defence when winning 5 out of 24 games, conceding 74 goals, and nobody mentioned the top job he did with Sunderland.
After almost 5 years West Ham were left with a bunch of burnt out pensioners to clear out after him.
As usual gas lighting the nieve & gullible.
He won a European trophy at relegation threatened West Ham ! Let that sink in.
Everton finished in the top 4 above Liverpool the season they won the CL v AC Milan
@@Mil-w6d
And why were his team in relegation contention?
Rice & Paqueta in midfield,apparently world class midfielders, playing the likes of FC Larnaca, Silkborg,Genk .
74 goals conceded after spending a small fortune on players, whom he later sold for a fraction of their value, Vlasic as an example, also had a stint at Everton.
Not to mention the bore factor.
Frank Clark replacing cloughie was a relative success.
Promotion back to the PL and finishing 3rd. Then reaching the QF of uefa cup the year after.
Mr. Moyes, think of the way you had the team playing then think of everything opposite - that’s the West Ham Way.