@@kingcasper_stckd7544 i mean we’ve been bad the last 15 ish years, if i were to tell you we have the second most ECF appearances over the last 40 years you’d probably think im lying lol 😂
@@kingcasper_stckd7544 idk man, they've drafted decently for that past 4 years and they were the worst team in the NBA last season lol. Not gonna argue that the Bulls FO are competent, but to call Detroit "not bad" is kind of a stretch lol.
When I first saw the announcement graphic I thought it was from some parody account. 😂😂😂 Because ain't no way a FO is that dumb. In the wise words of KG: "anything is possible".
Caruso is aging, has reached his ceiling and is probably to expensive, especially for a team that is going into rebuilding mode anyway. In terms of trade value Giddey is the better deal, merely because there is still the possibility he'll improve and he is much younger than Caruso. And really, what Win Now team is just a Caruso away to win a title.
He was one of the best defenders on both Luka and Kyrie. Even though it was Jrue who was the best defender, they rotated him off as much as they can and didn't want anything to do with him.
Derrick white had the most impact on both offesense defense. Next to white it was jaylen brown and tillman but improving your teams defense by +0.4 points per 100 is nothing. That's the kind of defense people attack luka and jokic for in regular season
Rusty’s takes on Giddey are a more extreme version of his silly skepticism of Evan Mobley (replace Mobley’s defense with Giddey’s passing and it’s almost word for word), flavored with recency bias from the playoffs. Just a vent video that no one should take seriously.
The fact that their stats were comparable and JB guarded Luka are Kyrie for 5 games is what gave him the nod in my eyes. Tatum had a really solid series for sure. And his ability to guard Dallas’ bigs was important to the Celtics wining for sure. But Jaylen Brown doing what he did to neutralize the head of the snake was very impressive to me.
He was able to guard the bigs as the bigs barely got the ball near the rim when Tatum was on them. The times when they did pass it down there, he was punished for it, just like anyone else.
Not to mention, Tatum literally started jacking up shots to try to steal Brown spotlight. There was 2 different finals games where brown was having a great game and tatum was jacking up bricks and when tatum came out in the second half he started holding the ball hostage and forcing up shots when his team was already up 10 trying to pad his stats That’s why his FG% was so bad in 4/5 games, because he was literally forcing horrible shots this to pad his own total and didn’t care if he had to go 11/29 as long as he got his 20+ points
Comment to come back to, after Giddey started most of the season, averaged 14-18 points, 5-7 boards, 6-7 assists (8 if you draft a lob target), was slightly below league average in efg%, say like 1 or 2 percent below it, 34/35% from 3 while being left a bit open from the top of the key, but guarded in the corners, left stuff to be desired in his free throw rate, but got pretty close to being league average on D and wasn't a target on that side, was great in the locker-room and did a lot in the city of the court, and by far the best passer on the team.
Yes. Either our information is incomplete and they did get picks with the deal .. or they are completely retarded and just gave AC away for a gamble. The most valuable guard defender in the league after Jrue Holiday, for a player that is a project.
The thing I will say about Giddey is that his primary role is a distributor, but OKC always gave the ball to SGA or J Dub. Kind of hard to be a playmaker if you don't have the ball.
This in particular. Now the threat of scoring actually made Shai and J-Dub more effective doing this, but Giddey is still a better passer than either of them. They can just ignore him, unless he is within a few feet from the basket. On a different team, he would probably have progressed a whole lot more. OKC just has way too many good young players that are all more easy to plug into the offense / defense.
it's always hilarious to me when someone gets judged off of one playoff run. Had people saying Rui and Gabe Vincent are going to be all-stars because they played decent for 18 games. now they're saying a 21 year-old is washed because he played bad for 10 games. And funniest of all, 'Ant is the next MJ' because he played way above his head for a couple series. This happens every single year and NBA fans never learn from it because they all have goldfish memory. Inevitably, they always regress to the mean. Giddey is still a good young player with plenty of potential, if he can put the false allegations behind him.
@@naoikeda9472 what? Having a power scale makes no sense as that was in the 90s vs 2023 and they didn't find anything to even get charges pressedd against him
@roundtrip385 tf are you talking about? Giddey is 21 and a tripple doubles threat with the right team around him, the only reason why he regressed is because Media and with Chet OKC wanted him to have the ball a bit more and he had some minutes taken off. He will be a superstar one day, he needs a fresh start.
@@SirGergilton N wed not need to be the fresh start. He is not a threat, and if thats what it takes for him to to regress chicago isnt the spot for him. You're the only one that is being naive about this situation.
Giddey is a great playmaker 😂 I'm an OKC fan so I've followed Giddey forever. The guy was setting triple double records in his debut season. He put up 13, 8 and 6 his first season in spite of being an 18 year old. He was the youngest guy in the draft. One thing he was highly criticized for his first season was his efficiency so the next season he puts up 17, 8 and 6 on 48% from the field this time as a 19 year old which is the age most one and done's come into the league. And this season with Chet coming in and J Dub taking a leap he just fell down the pecking order. His main strength is his playmaking and trust me, he's been one of the best passers in the league since he was 18. But on our team Shai is the lead guard and everyone just kind of shares the ball, we don't have a guy who runs the show from the point so he's never been able to really do what he does best which is playmake. I really think if The Bulls give him the keys to the offense he will shine and be one of the most fun players to watch in the league. This was a good deal for both teams. Dude is still only 21. There will be multiple lottery picks in this years draft who are older than him and he has three years experience in the league.
@@jonmeekins9439 His first two seasons in the league when he was a teenager he was grabbing 8 boards a night. He could be a 20, 8 and 8 guy next season easily. What more could you ask for? Caruso is great but people keep taking about a year ago when The Bulls turned down two firsts for him. That was last year. He has one year left on his deal now so he ain’t worth two firsts. Maybe one first and then one or two seconds. I’d take Giddey over that 100%. Only competitive teams would have wanted Caruso so a first and two seconds might as well have been three seconds as that first would be in the mid to late 20’s.
It's insane how much he overreacted. He is either overreacting for content or doesn't understand that Giddey is 21 and his numbers double when he isn't on the court with Shai. This felt like a take I would find on Reddit versus a basketball analysist
@@Sup4ast4r that means you have to construct a roster specifically catered to Josh Giddey's strengths and, more importantly, his weaknesses, and Josh Giddey is not talented enough to structure your whole roster around.
Rusty lowkey kinda dumb and overrating Caruso. Dudes 30 years old and has never been starter material. Giddy at 21 actually has a shot. Also this should tell Rusty that Lonzo is Donezo but I don't think he realizes.
Y'all sleeping on Giddey. Giddey is putting up higher Points, Rebounds and Assists on fewer minutes than Caruso and also on a lower usage rate. He is already better than Caruso ever was in his prime and Giddey will get even better with time. Bulls won this trade and it's not even close
I would seriously consider swapping to another team as a fan. Most people are already more fans of individual players than teams per se, so if you trade away all the exciting and fun players, that team is no longer fun to watch. Being a fan is not having a toxic stranglehold with a franchise that mocks their fans by the sheer stupidity of their decisions. I mean, that is pushing it a little, because they do have good individual players still, but they could have gotten SO MUCH for a player like AC, he is the perfect target for a contender to put their already good team over the top.
I would say 16,8,6 as a 20 year old is pretty good. You can dislike all him all you want. But that’s just objectively not true saying he has never had all star potential
@@CobiOnTheRocks what does that have to do with anything? We are talking about individual players. If one can’t play they can’t play. Y’all are just being weird.
If i could show one clip of a guy who has no idea what he is talking about as it relates to Josh Giddey, this would be it. Unbelievable. He is not the guy responsible for losing to the mavs if he only plays 10-12 mpg.. If you want to say that about his -20 game, what about saying he was a +2 in the game they lost by one or that he was a +6 in the game they won by 4.
Why is everybody acting like Josh Giddey isn’t a 6’8 playmaking triple double dropping 21 year old he was hooping before that team got as deep as it did how quickly they forget 😪
@@malk5700 Caruso didnt save the Bulls for sure. What did the Bulls win in 3 years with Caruso? 6th, 19, and 9th in the ECF in the years. Bulls didnt want to pay him next year, so they unloaded him, for a guy that at least MAY have a chance to improve. Bulls already knew Caruso is at his peak NOW, and it aint enough with the roster.
@@maxmeier532 i never said that he did but he’s way better than giddey let’s be fr. but i’ll let you figure that out next season when he’s stinking it up in chicago
Nobody is saying he's a saviour, but in such a team-centric sport like basketball, adding a player like Caruso (elite defender and good 3-pt shooter) to an already great team with a bonafide superstar on it is such a nice move. When taking fit into account, there's not many guys who fit better alongside OKC's core of SGA, Jdub, and Chet.
it seems like caruso might become the next jrue holiday... a top class defender who gets underrated by front offices and underrates his way to multiple champonships
The recency bias of people is crazy. Why dont you use your brain instead of copying what everyone else is saying ? Last year giddey would've been traded for 2 firsts and a young player now you're acting like he's not worth a hamburger after 1 bad playoff series .
Giddey only averaged that because the team wasn't good enough yet. They were still experimenting and this year his minutes has gone down and his numbers dipped across the word while making 0 progress in his game. It's not just recency bias
@@Saulgoodmanman the problem with his style is it's not suited for this league. His style is too ball dominant and that's a bad thing when he can't shoot nor finish at the rim and he's pretty bad defensively with his lateral movements. Maybe he'll be better but honestly, his shot needs a rework. He'd be better off to new orleans with how they helped lonzo and ingram with their shooting mechanics
@@CahlilWesson he can develop hopefully but we can be realistic as well. His shot needs a major rework and he'll most likely be a subpar shooter and the problem with this trade is bulls didn't ask for ANY picks. Not even second rounders
Rusty, I get that you could’ve gotten more, but this feels like an over-emotional response to Giddey’s most recent season. He averaged 16.6/8/6 at age 20 and then started this season getting jail baited and cancelled while jdub and chet ascended essentially removing the need for giddeys strengths on the team. There is 100% potential in this guy and I can see him working well with the spacing of white/ayo/vuc/paw while filling the weakness of rebounding at the forward position.
I don't get the hate. Caruso is a great role player that maximizes on a playoff team. Giddey has way more upside as a starter and has the passing skills to run a complex offense. We just got young talent for a guy we would never realize the value of. This response is so typical of Bulls fans. Overvaluing their grinders (it happened with Hinrich, among others) rather than getting talent.
Technically you are correct. Normally though, you start to trade for picks and young players, instead of only a young player and no picks. The value prospect for a player of Caruso's caliber seems completely off. The rebuild is a phase where you get rid of good players and turn them into future capital. Good deals that are heavily in your favor as the opposing team is getting good (win now) players.
I understand everyone likes Caruso, but he isnt a franchise player, he is much older than Giddey, meaning he's has reached his ceiling, and his contract was only 1 more year.
This dude is just mad. Giddey has his off the court issues I know. But on the court he started for the best team in the west and balled out in his role. Give him the offense and you will be surprised. Should of obviously got a couple picks but Giddey does have huge upside.
RJ is a far better player on both ends of the floor compared to Giddey, but they needed to give up something good to get OG on the team. (I think it paid off too for both teams)
Honestly, I felt criticism on Josh Giddy is way too harsh. You talk about lack of all-star potential, but he is 21 and already broke nba records and definitely much better than Moody. You can't say he won't improve his 3 ball ethier, lonzo, and brook are good examples. For his size, skill set, and athletics, he can finish very well. If he is the lead guard, he will be very good. Chicago might not be the best place and it might not have been the best trade but thats not his fault, he didnt ask to be the youngest player in his draft to a team about to compete for a chip and he didnt ask to be traded to the bulls ethier. I think spurs, Hawks (if full rebuild), nets, and raptors are all better situations for him
The Bulls weren't going to pay Caruso $20 million per season. They got an unselfish young 21 year old guard who will push the ball in transition. I just wish they got one 1st in the deal
@D1_Hater_69 How is saying the percentage that Caruso actually shot, comparing him to Steph Curry? Caruso is a top defensive guard, possibly the best in the league or second best. His ability to shoot and be a reasonable playmaker on the offensive end as well, just makes him a high value player. And no .. he is not comparable to Steph Curry, nobody is. Lots of players shoot 40% or more, none of them are Curry. (except for Steph and his brother Seth)
@D1_Hater_69 White is debatable, but SGA and Smart most defintely are not better than Caruso defensively. Smart is a bit stronger maybe, which makes him more switchable on larger guys, but he is nowhere near as much as impactful with his hands or his lateral movement. I don't think Caruso is really good all of a sudden at being a shooter, but a good defender that can take a three at reasonable efficiency is exactly what most teams in the league need more of.
@D1_Hater_69 He is not a star player, but a very good defensive roleplayer that would start on nearly every team. I think he will start on the Thunder as well.
@@itay6262 he doesn’t know how to use his size on defence and offence and his above average IQ is totally negated by the fact he can’t shoot, supporting a team isn’t giving everyone a chance it’s wanting what’s best for the team and I’d rather trade Giddey for a second round pick than watch him play a minute
@@lukebashian5591 if you really prefer a second round pick over Giddey then you don't know basketball bro. its not like you gave up MJ, and Giddey is not what stand in Bulls' chance of a title, so chill. he's still raw.
Seen worse, imagine a team giving a coach 80 million over 6 years and firing him in 1 season, nothing the bulls do will ever top the dumpster fire that is the Detroit pistons
So you're not aware that he played out of position with OKC? They relegated him to an off-ball guy and to the second unit that's why his numbers were down last season... I love AC like everyone but he's not getting any younger, and continuing to be injury prone while being in the last year of his contract... Giddey might not be the defensive monster like AC is but he's a tall PG who is a walking triple-double guy if you position him right in to your system plus he's only 21 years old on a rookie contract! You lot talks about the first round picks that were offered to them as if they're UNPROTECTED picks... They're not and it might turn like the Blazers pick they had that never materialized to something they can use... The only gripe I have for the management is they should've shipped AC on the trade deadline last season where his value was at it's pick but I reckon it's a fair trade IMHO...
Josh Giddey is... checks notes... 21 years old? He will get a lot better at basketball probably does not have any 'all-star potential' but if I was a Bulls fan I would choose to have faith that he can develop and turn some weaknesses around
If you were a Bulls fan, you would probably think Giddey would be a stinker and got traded to another team within a year, where he promptly would become a great player all of a sudden. It has happened on several occasions, including the most important one: Lauri Markkanen.
The giddey slander interms of potential is unfair..He can atleast be at a level where lonzo was for bulls, even if you think he is not all star calibre.
Within 2-4 years Giddey will be a better player than Caruso. And most first round picks wont turn into a player as good as Giddey. Also, 21 is about as early twenties as it gets.
It's official, Rusty jinxed Giddey, he is going to be pretty good from now. JJ just wants that 1-2 year coach experience. Unless you are Phil Jackson, if you dont win as a Lakers coach in your first two years, you will be fired. They are not even that good to compete with Denver or the T-Wolves anymore. After LeBron, they should at least 4 years to a coach and see if he could work it out with AD leading.
Legit, this is what happens when Rusty calls out a player for being horrible publically, they start to thrive. I think it is a subconsious planned thing to make the bulls into a good team.
Tbh idk if you watched the finals very well, Jaylen brown was definitely the more important defender in the series because he had the Luka assignment and managed to slow him down very well and he also was the more clutch player in the series as he hit the most important shot in game 2. Even though Jayson Tatum had better numbers, Jaylen brown had more impact on the game especially in the clutch.
@@theeuphioanswer770they just say that to make it sound like they know what they're talking about. They hear these stupid "analyst's" on TV say it, and then they repeat it, thinking they sound cool. 😏🤦🏾♂️
Not a fan of your takes. Giddey is probably not going to be an allstar, but his numbers were trending up until her got into allegations. They took up a lot of his time and attention, and his numbers suffered. His 3p% has gone up every season as well. He is still getting up to speed like most guards have to. Could the Bulls have gotten more if they we're better negotiators? Probably... but it's a B- at worse, and if they got a 1st rounder with him it would be an A-
@@daudimasinde6280 wrong actually because the way this guy is talking is like he just became a bust which he is not just that he was with people on the okc that were better than him and rightfully deserved more play time than him but chicago will probably be a good place for him to grow even though their fans are so used to bad takes they say it with too much chest
All the giddey hate is weird when a year ago he was considered a future star. He’s going to be the 2nd or 3rd best player on a championship contender in 3-5 seasons, guarantee it.
I didnt know that Rusty is one of Tatum dlckriders. Tatum was statpadding in every game. Down 30 in 4th quater he was out there with bench warmers. Up 20 in 4th he was out there with bench warmers.
Tatum IS a Kobe disciple. Kobe took the same approach vs the '04 Pistons. Couldn't score when it mattered to win, but all of a sudden stopped being total garbage in garbage time The difference is that Tatum was the 2nd best reason for Boston winning, while Kobe was THE NUMBER ONE REASON the Lakers got smoked in 5 against the Pistons
@@jasonbenedetti5499 except it was Shaq doing the heavy lifting and getting Robert Horry, Derek Fisher, and Rick Fox involved and making clutch plays while Kobe was either injured or being a glorified role player building houses with all those bricks. I'm tired of people acting like Kobe was the reason for that 3-peat without having actually watched the fucking games. They did better WITHOUT HIM in the Pacers finals.
@@ou8428 You're gonna defend Tatum's 38 percent from the field 28 percent from 3 and then talk about Kobe bricking? They don't even make it to the finals without Kobe any of those years. Period.
@@jamesdinkens4577Basically the girl and her family didn’t want to cooperate with investigators so there wasn’t enough evidence. They probably just didn’t want to press charges
Alex Caruso is 30, in a contract year and pretty injury prone for most of his career. Josh Giddey is 21, was viewed as a future All Star 2 seasons ago, dealt with pretty difficult personal circumstances this year and still averaged 12 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists in 25 min per game.
Josh Giddey is pretty terrible if you just ask him to stand in the corner and do nothing on offense. He’s a lot better when the ball is in his hands though…
As a Thunder fan, the Josh Giddey hate is kind of getting out of hand. While Thunder is an especially poor rebounding team, Giddey usually was either the 2nd or even best rebounder most of the time. He's still one of the best inbound passers in the league and, during the stretches of games where SGA was injured, he was unironically our best player as a number one option. I don't know how well he'd work with Coby White considering their positions, but Giddey is definitely a good player that just doesn't work too well in the Thunder rotation. Do I think Thunder got a better deal getting Caruso? Yes. But it would be shocking if Giddey didn't put out some really good numbers after he's gotten acclimated to the Bulls.
Giddey still has upside whole Caruso is just a vet who's getting older and not being aggressive. But he's a great defender which giddey can also be. Billy Donovan will coach this guy well.
Just cuz Rusty is hating so bad on him, I fully expect Giddey to start balling in a couple seasons. He's acting like he's a bum, and ignored his first 2 seasons. He's got potential. Rusty is just hurt at the moment, because regardless of any potential....this is a finessing.
@@msolomon1781 It's supposed to be ironic. Like Rusty hates this deal so much now, but there's definitely a chance that Giddey becomes a really good to great role player. He's only 21. If he does, it would be funny to see him grudgingly retract. Giddey has a lot of work to do, tho.
I wouldn't mind Giddey to have a resurgence and be able to realize his talent. In particular when it is true that the allegations against him were false and more or less an attempt to sue him for money by putting him in the wrong situation with someone posing as an adult with a fake ID. I don't know the details and he definitely needs to be smarter and a better man, but a redemption story would be great from a basketball perspective.
@@blackmanwithcomputer That's the thing, ignoring this last season where others on the team improved so much his position was more or less taken away and they kept playing him out of position, his first couple of seasons were pretty good for a young guard, he was the youngest player ever to get a triple double and got them fairly consistently, which counters the "He's not even that good at rebounding or assisting" line Rusty said. Even when they shut Shai down for the season, Giddey was still making them competitive. Is he a great player? No, did the Bulls screw up the trade, yes, but at 21 he's not the disaster he's being made out to be.
People are gonna look back at gaslighting themselves into thinking Giddey was gonna be a good player to justify this idiotic trade and wonder wtf was wrong with them lmao.
we dont have to look back, we already know you have no clue. Caruso had ONE more year on his conctract and Bulls got nowhere with there current roster, which would get more expensive next year if they wanted to keep Caruso. Managing an NBA team isnt about one guy. It's about all guys on the roster and thinking long term, in terms of sucess on court and economically.
@@maxmeier532 not sure why I have to keep explaining this to people, but stop me if I'm going to fast for you. It's not about Caruso, it's about the compensation that the bulls got for him. Trading one of the best 2 way guards in the league in a one-for-one deal for a guy who's a complete liability on both sides of the floor is flat out malpractice. On top of that, they made this deal with a team who's literally loaded with more picks than they can even reasonably use, and they got 0 picks that they will need going into a rebuild. Giving away an all nba defensive caliber player for a bag of stale pretzels is objectively a bad move and does nothing positive in the way of pursuing success either on the court or economically, as you put it. This was an egregious mismanagement of a valuable asset in exchange for a guy who probably won't even be on the team in 4 years.
He’s not hating , he just feels that Tatum was more impactful Tatum did shoot better from theee and the free throw line, as well as being a much better playmaker
Raw fg% is terrible though. Even if we're only looking at the box score tatum averages more than brown and if you watch the games, you'd see that most of the extra passes and open shots celtics have is due to tatum's playmaking
Why would he change his opinion about something basketball related, just because the "world could be ending?" 😏 I swear y'all just say anything, in an attempt to sound sooooo deep! 🤦🏾♂️
Thunder receive: best 3 and D player in the league. Bulls receive: 0 level scorer that's a traffic cone on defense with a thing for minors. Seems like a good trade.
Great move by both teams. OKC got a great role player that fits their team and the Bulls get a guy who will probably be talked about as a top PG in the NBA in a couple years. Giddey simply didnt fit OKC, he needs to be on a more traditional roster and coach.
I have a question. Where are you from? I'm fro the South Side of Chicago. I realize Bulls fans are all over the world. I've traveled to Australia, Korea, Canada, but I need to know. I think you make us look bad on so many levels.
Giddey is going to be better than Caruso It’s actually quite a steal for Chicago. People are juding Giddey by his off the court scandal that is clearly going nowhere from a legal and league standpoint. He’ll be in the league. He no longer fit the Thunder with Jalen Williams becoming a secondary ball handler outside of the ball dominant Shai Caruso is a backup
Lot's and lot's of ignorance here. Giddey's first two years in the league as a starter were better than Lonzo's offensively. He is 9 years younger than Alex and he could turn out to be a very good player. But since it's Donovan's Bulls, it's more likely to be another Justin Fields type screwup.
We need a kenny and rusty collab vid disucssing the bulls masterclass on beating the nets with having the worst FO on the league
the detroit pistons would like to have a word in this conversation 😢
@@fireestylepistons isnt that bad. That at least draft decently
@@kingcasper_stckd7544 i mean we’ve been bad the last 15 ish years, if i were to tell you we have the second most ECF appearances over the last 40 years you’d probably think im lying lol 😂
@@fireestyle nahh detroit at least has some young players. Bulls situation is like the "just let it go bruh its over 😭😭" meme
@@kingcasper_stckd7544 idk man, they've drafted decently for that past 4 years and they were the worst team in the NBA last season lol. Not gonna argue that the Bulls FO are competent, but to call Detroit "not bad" is kind of a stretch lol.
Ngl thumbnail is diabolical 😭 yall got P-Giddy now have fun
Its funny, but Josh is innocent
Josh Kiddey***
Kdot inspired LOLOLOL
@@testing_something amazes me how many pedo defenders there are just like you
@@testing_something Bribing her parents to not press charges does not make him innocent.
Traded an offender for a defender
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Alex Caruso for a bag of chips, a can of sprite, and a half priced expired pizza puff
What is a pizza puff? Never had or heard of one. Please tell me I'm missing out on something bomb
And one filthy child lover! 😏 Only in the NBA 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
With some junior mint stains on the packaging...
@ou8428 imagine pizza inside a pastry just not sweet. Kind of like a toaster struddle without the sugar
@@joshuabryant9845 like a hot pocket?
This legit feels like on of those trades that just pops up while your simming and the cpu just accepts it
Right lol
I literally laughed out loud when I realized this was a real trade…Bulls are straight up comedy 😭💀
When I first saw the announcement graphic I thought it was from some parody account. 😂😂😂 Because ain't no way a FO is that dumb. In the wise words of KG: "anything is possible".
Trade ain’t that bad. Y’all overreacting
@@Soycalbino they coulldve gotten 1 round pick for him 😭the thunder literally have a million first round picks 😭😭😭😭
@@SoycalbinoNah this trade is cheeks. A top-tier 3 & D guy with deep playoff experience for Josh Giddey?
Even their contracts are almost the same!
@Soycalbino Josh Giddey, is that you??
The pin at United Center is insane 😂
Can't wait for the Bulls to have Coby White, Ayo Dosunmu, Josh Giddey, and Patrick Williams on the floor at the same time some point in the season 💀
Ayo is actually nice tho. Definitely a 6moty caliber player imo in the future
That is the epitome of fighting for the final play-in spot
We WANT to tank. Why not get better?
That sounds more fun to watch than the the past 2 years of the bulls
hopefully yall get cooper flag or ace bailey with 1st ovr pick next year
2024-25 NBA Season:
Summer of 2025: "Breaking news: Chicago Bulls sign Josh Giddy to franchise 5-year, 300 million dollars"
OKC's front office must have thought this was a late April Fools joke, instead it was a Summer Christmas gift.
The bulls front office is actively trolling now
Anyone who understands that basketball is a team game understands how crazy valuable Caruso is. ANY team would benefit from him. Good job OKC lol
Caruso would work on any NBA team immediately
Im still not trading a guy like Kuminga and moses for caruso. Also picks to as well. Thats too much.
specially okc, where he can play a mentorship role to a talented young core
Caruso is aging, has reached his ceiling and is probably to expensive, especially for a team that is going into rebuilding mode anyway. In terms of trade value Giddey is the better deal, merely because there is still the possibility he'll improve and he is much younger than Caruso. And really, what Win Now team is just a Caruso away to win a title.
@@maxmeier532major L take lmao
Coming back to all these vids next year when bulls fans love Giddey will be hilarious
I think it’s unfair to say JB was less important on defense
Especially when he was the main matchup for Luka
He was one of the best defenders on both Luka and Kyrie. Even though it was Jrue who was the best defender, they rotated him off as much as they can and didn't want anything to do with him.
Derrick white had the most impact on both offesense defense. Next to white it was jaylen brown and tillman but improving your teams defense by +0.4 points per 100 is nothing. That's the kind of defense people attack luka and jokic for in regular season
“Locked in for 10 minutes and had a -20” is a crazy… but accurate statement😂
Rusty’s takes on Giddey are a more extreme version of his silly skepticism of Evan Mobley (replace Mobley’s defense with Giddey’s passing and it’s almost word for word), flavored with recency bias from the playoffs. Just a vent video that no one should take seriously.
The fact that their stats were comparable and JB guarded Luka are Kyrie for 5 games is what gave him the nod in my eyes. Tatum had a really solid series for sure. And his ability to guard Dallas’ bigs was important to the Celtics wining for sure. But Jaylen Brown doing what he did to neutralize the head of the snake was very impressive to me.
W take
He was able to guard the bigs as the bigs barely got the ball near the rim when Tatum was on them. The times when they did pass it down there, he was punished for it, just like anyone else.
Not to mention, Tatum literally started jacking up shots to try to steal Brown spotlight. There was 2 different finals games where brown was having a great game and tatum was jacking up bricks and when tatum came out in the second half he started holding the ball hostage and forcing up shots when his team was already up 10 trying to pad his stats
That’s why his FG% was so bad in 4/5 games, because he was literally forcing horrible shots this to pad his own total and didn’t care if he had to go 11/29 as long as he got his 20+ points
Comment to come back to, after Giddey started most of the season, averaged 14-18 points, 5-7 boards, 6-7 assists (8 if you draft a lob target), was slightly below league average in efg%, say like 1 or 2 percent below it, 34/35% from 3 while being left a bit open from the top of the key, but guarded in the corners, left stuff to be desired in his free throw rate, but got pretty close to being league average on D and wasn't a target on that side, was great in the locker-room and did a lot in the city of the court, and by far the best passer on the team.
How are you not gonna get any picks from the THUNDER of all organizations
Yes. Either our information is incomplete and they did get picks with the deal .. or they are completely retarded and just gave AC away for a gamble. The most valuable guard defender in the league after Jrue Holiday, for a player that is a project.
The Thunder became way more likable, the Bulls became even easier to make fun of
I think this move makes the Thunder a legit contender, if they can also score a good Big with it.
The thing I will say about Giddey is that his primary role is a distributor, but OKC always gave the ball to SGA or J Dub. Kind of hard to be a playmaker if you don't have the ball.
This in particular. Now the threat of scoring actually made Shai and J-Dub more effective doing this, but Giddey is still a better passer than either of them. They can just ignore him, unless he is within a few feet from the basket. On a different team, he would probably have progressed a whole lot more.
OKC just has way too many good young players that are all more easy to plug into the offense / defense.
That’s why Giddey is a bad player, you don’t want the ball constantly in the hands of a guy that can’t score
@@MrBubblecake I mean… Stockton, Rondo, Fisher, go on.
Also, he was the 5th option on offense. That’s why he asked to get traded.
it's always hilarious to me when someone gets judged off of one playoff run.
Had people saying Rui and Gabe Vincent are going to be all-stars because they played decent for 18 games. now they're saying a 21 year-old is washed because he played bad for 10 games. And funniest of all, 'Ant is the next MJ' because he played way above his head for a couple series. This happens every single year and NBA fans never learn from it because they all have goldfish memory.
Inevitably, they always regress to the mean. Giddey is still a good young player with plenty of potential, if he can put the false allegations behind him.
well you did say that the bulls needed to make trades. So the bulls traded their best defender for a white Karl Malone.
How he's that when he never went to trial
@@jamesdinkens4577
They both had allegations of having a relationship with a minor
@@jamesdinkens4577 if you want to power scale it, Josh Giddey is city level, while Karl Malone is planetary level.
@@naoikeda9472 what? Having a power scale makes no sense as that was in the 90s vs 2023 and they didn't find anything to even get charges pressedd against him
@@naoikeda9472 its called allegations not facts and different times of era’s too they didn't have the resources today they had in Malone era
FYI Josh Giddey has had more tripple doubles than any bulls player in the past 10-15 years
On OKC were they hitting shots. And letting him get rebounds wtf are you talking about
@roundtrip385 tf are you talking about? Giddey is 21 and a tripple doubles threat with the right team around him, the only reason why he regressed is because Media and with Chet OKC wanted him to have the ball a bit more and he had some minutes taken off. He will be a superstar one day, he needs a fresh start.
@@SirGergilton N wed not need to be the fresh start. He is not a threat, and if thats what it takes for him to to regress chicago isnt the spot for him. You're the only one that is being naive about this situation.
@@roundtrip385 think what you want my dude, he's a good young player.
@@roundtrip385 please learn english before you comment.
Been foaming at the mouth waiting for this rant
Giddey is a great playmaker 😂 I'm an OKC fan so I've followed Giddey forever. The guy was setting triple double records in his debut season. He put up 13, 8 and 6 his first season in spite of being an 18 year old. He was the youngest guy in the draft. One thing he was highly criticized for his first season was his efficiency so the next season he puts up 17, 8 and 6 on 48% from the field this time as a 19 year old which is the age most one and done's come into the league. And this season with Chet coming in and J Dub taking a leap he just fell down the pecking order. His main strength is his playmaking and trust me, he's been one of the best passers in the league since he was 18. But on our team Shai is the lead guard and everyone just kind of shares the ball, we don't have a guy who runs the show from the point so he's never been able to really do what he does best which is playmake. I really think if The Bulls give him the keys to the offense he will shine and be one of the most fun players to watch in the league. This was a good deal for both teams. Dude is still only 21. There will be multiple lottery picks in this years draft who are older than him and he has three years experience in the league.
josh giddey is a young player and a good playmaker and w potentially an all star peak. great playmaker once he finds his jumper chitown will love him
@@jonmeekins9439 His first two seasons in the league when he was a teenager he was grabbing 8 boards a night. He could be a 20, 8 and 8 guy next season easily. What more could you ask for? Caruso is great but people keep taking about a year ago when The Bulls turned down two firsts for him. That was last year. He has one year left on his deal now so he ain’t worth two firsts. Maybe one first and then one or two seconds. I’d take Giddey over that 100%. Only competitive teams would have wanted Caruso so a first and two seconds might as well have been three seconds as that first would be in the mid to late 20’s.
@@jonmeekins9439Is his criticism of not being able to shoot or defend or rebound well fair?
@@fortynights1513the first two yes, Giddy is a really good rebounder though. Dont know what Rusty been watching calling him a bad rebounder
@@Bkzflyest0823 he isn't allowed to compliment him as a public figure
Underrating giddey for sure. He has plenty of potential. Showed it in first 2 years in nba. Pretty bad take from rusty.
It's insane how much he overreacted. He is either overreacting for content or doesn't understand that Giddey is 21 and his numbers double when he isn't on the court with Shai. This felt like a take I would find on Reddit versus a basketball analysist
@@Sup4ast4r that means you have to construct a roster specifically catered to Josh Giddey's strengths and, more importantly, his weaknesses, and Josh Giddey is not talented enough to structure your whole roster around.
@@Sup4ast4rhe does this constantly rustys a big casual but everyone acts surprised when he has godawful takes 😂😂😂
Rusty lowkey kinda dumb and overrating Caruso. Dudes 30 years old and has never been starter material. Giddy at 21 actually has a shot.
Also this should tell Rusty that Lonzo is Donezo but I don't think he realizes.
@@opshan4269 We're talking about the bulls here, theyre not aiming for the championship they want a competitive roster in a couple of years
Y'all sleeping on Giddey. Giddey is putting up higher Points, Rebounds and Assists on fewer minutes than Caruso and also on a lower usage rate. He is already better than Caruso ever was in his prime and Giddey will get even better with time. Bulls won this trade and it's not even close
Stat head 😂, Caruso is so much better
@@chilldoc9638 He's more "famous" to the casual watcher, but in what metric is he better other than defence?
Bro the thumbnail is insane 😭😭
@@szymonm81awww
I wonder if this trade strikes a chord for Bulls fans….
I would seriously consider swapping to another team as a fan. Most people are already more fans of individual players than teams per se, so if you trade away all the exciting and fun players, that team is no longer fun to watch.
Being a fan is not having a toxic stranglehold with a franchise that mocks their fans by the sheer stupidity of their decisions. I mean, that is pushing it a little, because they do have good individual players still, but they could have gotten SO MUCH for a player like AC, he is the perfect target for a contender to put their already good team over the top.
For the foreseeable future, I’m not going to be able to hear “strike a chord” and not hear “a minooooorrrrr.” 😭😭
Oh it struck a chord
If it did, it's probably A MINORRRRRR!
The giddey trade was great
I would say 16,8,6 as a 20 year old is pretty good. You can dislike all him all you want. But that’s just objectively not true saying he has never had all star potential
16,8,6 as a 20 year old?
No diddy
Or
No giddey in this case
Bro was unplayable in the playoffs. Reg season stats don’t matter if you can’t play in the playoffs
@@soodhooku damn guess Rudy gobert hasn’t been shit for years then huh?
@@ethanbrown4628at least they made the conference finals
@@CobiOnTheRocks what does that have to do with anything? We are talking about individual players. If one can’t play they can’t play. Y’all are just being weird.
First time here for me. Can't remember a video where the commentator was totally wrong about everything he talked about. Thanks for the chuckle.
If i could show one clip of a guy who has no idea what he is talking about as it relates to Josh Giddey, this would be it. Unbelievable. He is not the guy responsible for losing to the mavs if he only plays 10-12 mpg.. If you want to say that about his -20 game, what about saying he was a +2 in the game they lost by one or that he was a +6 in the game they won by 4.
This will age like moldy bread dunked in sour milk.
Over reaction, Josh will be averaging near a triple double regular season
Why is everybody acting like Josh Giddey isn’t a 6’8 playmaking triple double dropping 21 year old he was hooping before that team got as deep as it did how quickly they forget 😪
I love the trade
@@Icebgriz Facts!!!!
@@RythaKvd I wanted josh 2 years ago
@@Icebgriz he might average a triple double!!
@@RythaKvd if they get some shooter's he will
This trade is so overblown. Caruso is a decent bench player and good defender. He isn’t a savior
yeah ig josh giddey will save you
@@malk5700 Caruso didnt save the Bulls for sure. What did the Bulls win in 3 years with Caruso? 6th, 19, and 9th in the ECF in the years. Bulls didnt want to pay him next year, so they unloaded him, for a guy that at least MAY have a chance to improve. Bulls already knew Caruso is at his peak NOW, and it aint enough with the roster.
@@maxmeier532 i never said that he did but he’s way better than giddey let’s be fr. but i’ll let you figure that out next season when he’s stinking it up in chicago
Nobody is saying he's a saviour, but in such a team-centric sport like basketball, adding a player like Caruso (elite defender and good 3-pt shooter) to an already great team with a bonafide superstar on it is such a nice move. When taking fit into account, there's not many guys who fit better alongside OKC's core of SGA, Jdub, and Chet.
it seems like caruso might become the next jrue holiday... a top class defender who gets underrated by front offices and underrates his way to multiple champonships
The recency bias of people is crazy. Why dont you use your brain instead of copying what everyone else is saying ? Last year giddey would've been traded for 2 firsts and a young player now you're acting like he's not worth a hamburger after 1 bad playoff series .
Giddey only averaged that because the team wasn't good enough yet. They were still experimenting and this year his minutes has gone down and his numbers dipped across the word while making 0 progress in his game. It's not just recency bias
@@winter9242 he was forced to play on a team that just didn't fit his style at all, that's the main issue.
@@Saulgoodmanman the problem with his style is it's not suited for this league. His style is too ball dominant and that's a bad thing when he can't shoot nor finish at the rim and he's pretty bad defensively with his lateral movements. Maybe he'll be better but honestly, his shot needs a rework. He'd be better off to new orleans with how they helped lonzo and ingram with their shooting mechanics
@@winter9242hes uoung enough to develop more hes not cooked😊
@@CahlilWesson he can develop hopefully but we can be realistic as well. His shot needs a major rework and he'll most likely be a subpar shooter and the problem with this trade is bulls didn't ask for ANY picks. Not even second rounders
Rusty, I get that you could’ve gotten more, but this feels like an over-emotional response to Giddey’s most recent season. He averaged 16.6/8/6 at age 20 and then started this season getting jail baited and cancelled while jdub and chet ascended essentially removing the need for giddeys strengths on the team. There is 100% potential in this guy and I can see him working well with the spacing of white/ayo/vuc/paw while filling the weakness of rebounding at the forward position.
jeez you are polite... that video was by Rusty the Clown...
I don't get the hate. Caruso is a great role player that maximizes on a playoff team. Giddey has way more upside as a starter and has the passing skills to run a complex offense. We just got young talent for a guy we would never realize the value of. This response is so typical of Bulls fans. Overvaluing their grinders (it happened with Hinrich, among others) rather than getting talent.
Shoutout to Winning Time! Had its flaws but I really liked the concept of the show.
Im not a bulls fan but I would actually be glad that FINALLY they are starting to push the rebuild button! That has to be something
Technically you are correct. Normally though, you start to trade for picks and young players, instead of only a young player and no picks. The value prospect for a player of Caruso's caliber seems completely off. The rebuild is a phase where you get rid of good players and turn them into future capital. Good deals that are heavily in your favor as the opposing team is getting good (win now) players.
I understand everyone likes Caruso, but he isnt a franchise player, he is much older than Giddey, meaning he's has reached his ceiling, and his contract was only 1 more year.
Dude all those draft day memes of Giddey’s weaknesses being every skill in the game of basketball kinda became self fulfilling
This dude is just mad. Giddey has his off the court issues I know. But on the court he started for the best team in the west and balled out in his role. Give him the offense and you will be surprised. Should of obviously got a couple picks but Giddey does have huge upside.
I was WAITING FOR THIS😂😂😂
The main reason why Giddey was so bad last season was because he didn’t have the ball in has as much this next season I think he’ll bounce back
his analyis on Josh Giddey sounds like how knicks fans felt about RJ Barrett
RJ is a far better player on both ends of the floor compared to Giddey, but they needed to give up something good to get OG on the team. (I think it paid off too for both teams)
Giddey has had 3 triple doubles against the Knicks in his three appearances at MSG
Honestly, I felt criticism on Josh Giddy is way too harsh. You talk about lack of all-star potential, but he is 21 and already broke nba records and definitely much better than Moody. You can't say he won't improve his 3 ball ethier, lonzo, and brook are good examples. For his size, skill set, and athletics, he can finish very well. If he is the lead guard, he will be very good. Chicago might not be the best place and it might not have been the best trade but thats not his fault, he didnt ask to be the youngest player in his draft to a team about to compete for a chip and he didnt ask to be traded to the bulls ethier. I think spurs, Hawks (if full rebuild), nets, and raptors are all better situations for him
Thumbnail got me crying 😂😂😂
Caruso shot 40% from three?? lmaoooo, i cant believe it. trade really sucks for bulls fans
The Bulls weren't going to pay Caruso $20 million per season. They got an unselfish young 21 year old guard who will push the ball in transition. I just wish they got one 1st in the deal
@D1_Hater_69 How is saying the percentage that Caruso actually shot, comparing him to Steph Curry? Caruso is a top defensive guard, possibly the best in the league or second best. His ability to shoot and be a reasonable playmaker on the offensive end as well, just makes him a high value player. And no .. he is not comparable to Steph Curry, nobody is. Lots of players shoot 40% or more, none of them are Curry. (except for Steph and his brother Seth)
@D1_Hater_69 White is debatable, but SGA and Smart most defintely are not better than Caruso defensively. Smart is a bit stronger maybe, which makes him more switchable on larger guys, but he is nowhere near as much as impactful with his hands or his lateral movement.
I don't think Caruso is really good all of a sudden at being a shooter, but a good defender that can take a three at reasonable efficiency is exactly what most teams in the league need more of.
@D1_Hater_69 He is not a star player, but a very good defensive roleplayer that would start on nearly every team. I think he will start on the Thunder as well.
@@pinobluevogel6458He's not gonna start for OKC I don't think. They're gonna get a starting big next to Chet then run Dort, SGA, JDub. 6MOTY AC.
Giddey for a player that doesn't help you and can leave next year - its not bad. not a big josh fan but I do think he has very high upside.
Why he’s a cone on defence, he can’t shoot, and he’s an ok playmaker, where is this imaginary upside?
@@lukebashian5591 he has great size, better than average IQ, and he's only 21 years old. maybe we can give him a chance?
@@itay6262 he doesn’t know how to use his size on defence and offence and his above average IQ is totally negated by the fact he can’t shoot, supporting a team isn’t giving everyone a chance it’s wanting what’s best for the team and I’d rather trade Giddey for a second round pick than watch him play a minute
@@lukebashian5591 if you really prefer a second round pick over Giddey then you don't know basketball bro. its not like you gave up MJ, and Giddey is not what stand in Bulls' chance of a title, so chill. he's still raw.
@@itay6262 he has 0 potential, a second round pick you might discover a gem, there is no value to Giddey, Caruso should’ve been traded ages ago
Giddy gonna be nice af has the primary ball handler he wasnt gonna reach his potential here in okc but if the Bulls go full rebuild he will
That thumbnail is crazy
Seen worse, imagine a team giving a coach 80 million over 6 years and firing him in 1 season, nothing the bulls do will ever top the dumpster fire that is the Detroit pistons
Wtf u talking about he avg 8 boards a game n 7 assist before having his min cut last yr
So you're not aware that he played out of position with OKC? They relegated him to an off-ball guy and to the second unit that's why his numbers were down last season... I love AC like everyone but he's not getting any younger, and continuing to be injury prone while being in the last year of his contract... Giddey might not be the defensive monster like AC is but he's a tall PG who is a walking triple-double guy if you position him right in to your system plus he's only 21 years old on a rookie contract! You lot talks about the first round picks that were offered to them as if they're UNPROTECTED picks... They're not and it might turn like the Blazers pick they had that never materialized to something they can use... The only gripe I have for the management is they should've shipped AC on the trade deadline last season where his value was at it's pick but I reckon it's a fair trade IMHO...
Josh Giddey is... checks notes... 21 years old?
He will get a lot better at basketball
probably does not have any 'all-star potential' but if I was a Bulls fan I would choose to have faith that he can develop and turn some weaknesses around
If you were a Bulls fan, you would probably think Giddey would be a stinker and got traded to another team within a year, where he promptly would become a great player all of a sudden. It has happened on several occasions, including the most important one: Lauri Markkanen.
@@pinobluevogel6458 it’s about to happen with Patrick Williams too 😂
Look at the age difference. But Giddey haters will of course ignore his upside.
Rusty i legit didn't expect you're 24 😭
Too old for Giddey.
@@RD-zx6pytwice his preferred age
@@RD-zx6pystill young enough for Leonardo DiCaprio for a year
For real, buddy looks 34
@@MihoyMinoy-si8fb ohhhhh!
The giddey slander interms of potential is unfair..He can atleast be at a level where lonzo was for bulls, even if you think he is not all star calibre.
They got the giddler
Traded the offender for the defender 🤣
Okc is definitely gonna be playing "Not like us" in Josh Giddy's return game
Can’t believe these mfs traded for Josh kiddy
Within 2-4 years Giddey will be a better player than Caruso. And most first round picks wont turn into a player as good as Giddey.
Also, 21 is about as early twenties as it gets.
It's official, Rusty jinxed Giddey, he is going to be pretty good from now. JJ just wants that 1-2 year coach experience. Unless you are Phil Jackson, if you dont win as a Lakers coach in your first two years, you will be fired. They are not even that good to compete with Denver or the T-Wolves anymore. After LeBron, they should at least 4 years to a coach and see if he could work it out with AD leading.
Legit, this is what happens when Rusty calls out a player for being horrible publically, they start to thrive. I think it is a subconsious planned thing to make the bulls into a good team.
He’s gonna put up Lonzo Ball Numbers
Josh Giddy is 6th all time on most triple doubles by a player age 22 or younger. So to say he has no potential is fucking insane.
You will eat your words about him in the future. I promise you
Tbh idk if you watched the finals very well, Jaylen brown was definitely the more important defender in the series because he had the Luka assignment and managed to slow him down very well and he also was the more clutch player in the series as he hit the most important shot in game 2. Even though Jayson Tatum had better numbers, Jaylen brown had more impact on the game especially in the clutch.
I want to blow it all up but at least expected some future draft picks…
Everyone who says to "blow it all up," you really want to be the Pistons?
@@theeuphioanswer770they just say that to make it sound like they know what they're talking about. They hear these stupid "analyst's" on TV say it, and then they repeat it, thinking they sound cool. 😏🤦🏾♂️
Not a fan of your takes. Giddey is probably not going to be an allstar, but his numbers were trending up until her got into allegations. They took up a lot of his time and attention, and his numbers suffered. His 3p% has gone up every season as well. He is still getting up to speed like most guards have to. Could the Bulls have gotten more if they we're better negotiators? Probably... but it's a B- at worse, and if they got a 1st rounder with him it would be an A-
bro is 21 yall hating too early
receipted though
3 NBA seasons gives enough data to extrapolate his basketball career, it’s not hating.
@@daudimasinde6280 wrong actually because the way this guy is talking is like he just became a bust which he is not just that he was with people on the okc that were better than him and rightfully deserved more play time than him but chicago will probably be a good place for him to grow even though their fans are so used to bad takes they say it with too much chest
@@daudimasinde6280he just had an extreme off year and faced allegations yet he still improved efficiency wise, give this man some time
@@daudimasinde6280 then don't ignore his first 2 seasons
All the giddey hate is weird when a year ago he was considered a future star. He’s going to be the 2nd or 3rd best player on a championship contender in 3-5 seasons, guarantee it.
I didnt know that Rusty is one of Tatum dlckriders.
Tatum was statpadding in every game. Down 30 in 4th quater he was out there with bench warmers. Up 20 in 4th he was out there with bench warmers.
Tatum IS a Kobe disciple. Kobe took the same approach vs the '04 Pistons. Couldn't score when it mattered to win, but all of a sudden stopped being total garbage in garbage time
The difference is that Tatum was the 2nd best reason for Boston winning, while Kobe was THE NUMBER ONE REASON the Lakers got smoked in 5 against the Pistons
@@ou8428Except Kobe was one year removed from a 3 peat in 2004 but keep pretending that's the same thing.
Exactly what I was saying he’s a front runner, and now he’s talking about how easy it is to beat Miami🤣🤣
@@jasonbenedetti5499 except it was Shaq doing the heavy lifting and getting Robert Horry, Derek Fisher, and Rick Fox involved and making clutch plays while Kobe was either injured or being a glorified role player building houses with all those bricks. I'm tired of people acting like Kobe was the reason for that 3-peat without having actually watched the fucking games. They did better WITHOUT HIM in the Pacers finals.
@@ou8428 You're gonna defend Tatum's 38 percent from the field 28 percent from 3 and then talk about Kobe bricking? They don't even make it to the finals without Kobe any of those years. Period.
The Chicago Bulls are about to emerge. Josh Giddy is about the next Luka. Yall bare wittness
My immediate reaction when I saw the trade was "WE TRADED FOR A PEDO??!!!!!!" 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Sameeee 😭😤
Did he actually get convicted/arrested or was a warrant was put on him?
@@jamesdinkens4577Basically the girl and her family didn’t want to cooperate with investigators so there wasn’t enough evidence. They probably just didn’t want to press charges
@@jamesdinkens4577 nah but everyone's brain dead. Ive just left the discourse alone and let his play speak because no one is being nuanced.
@@moneyshotmonday7471his game doesn’t have much to say as of late
Mo calling this man in the midst of the TD3 podcast to check on him is a top 5 NBA TH-cam moment I’ve ever witnessed
Alex Caruso is 30, in a contract year and pretty injury prone for most of his career. Josh Giddey is 21, was viewed as a future All Star 2 seasons ago, dealt with pretty difficult personal circumstances this year and still averaged 12 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists in 25 min per game.
I remember having to argue with so many people after Giddey got drafted that swore he was gonna be an upcoming star 😂
Hyped for this crash out
Josh Giddey is pretty terrible if you just ask him to stand in the corner and do nothing on offense. He’s a lot better when the ball is in his hands though…
How would someone like that fit with what the Bulls have?
As a Thunder fan, the Josh Giddey hate is kind of getting out of hand. While Thunder is an especially poor rebounding team, Giddey usually was either the 2nd or even best rebounder most of the time. He's still one of the best inbound passers in the league and, during the stretches of games where SGA was injured, he was unironically our best player as a number one option. I don't know how well he'd work with Coby White considering their positions, but Giddey is definitely a good player that just doesn't work too well in the Thunder rotation. Do I think Thunder got a better deal getting Caruso? Yes. But it would be shocking if Giddey didn't put out some really good numbers after he's gotten acclimated to the Bulls.
Rusty if it makes you feel better, OKC thinks Giddey has All-Star potential too🤷🏻♂️
Giddey still has upside whole Caruso is just a vet who's getting older and not being aggressive. But he's a great defender which giddey can also be. Billy Donovan will coach this guy well.
Well Giddey is now officially on my fantasy draft board for next year already🤷♂️
Just cuz Rusty is hating so bad on him, I fully expect Giddey to start balling in a couple seasons. He's acting like he's a bum, and ignored his first 2 seasons. He's got potential. Rusty is just hurt at the moment, because regardless of any potential....this is a finessing.
Yeah, he's gonna start balling because some guy on TH-cam hates him. 😏🤦🏾♂️ Did you even try to think that one through? 🤷🏾♂️
@@msolomon1781 It's supposed to be ironic. Like Rusty hates this deal so much now, but there's definitely a chance that Giddey becomes a really good to great role player. He's only 21.
If he does, it would be funny to see him grudgingly retract. Giddey has a lot of work to do, tho.
@@msolomon1781 Dude you are taking their comment WAAAAAAAAAY too literally... 🤦♂🤦🤦♀
I wouldn't mind Giddey to have a resurgence and be able to realize his talent. In particular when it is true that the allegations against him were false and more or less an attempt to sue him for money by putting him in the wrong situation with someone posing as an adult with a fake ID. I don't know the details and he definitely needs to be smarter and a better man, but a redemption story would be great from a basketball perspective.
@@blackmanwithcomputer That's the thing, ignoring this last season where others on the team improved so much his position was more or less taken away and they kept playing him out of position, his first couple of seasons were pretty good for a young guard, he was the youngest player ever to get a triple double and got them fairly consistently, which counters the "He's not even that good at rebounding or assisting" line Rusty said. Even when they shut Shai down for the season, Giddey was still making them competitive. Is he a great player? No, did the Bulls screw up the trade, yes, but at 21 he's not the disaster he's being made out to be.
People are gonna look back at gaslighting themselves into thinking Giddey was gonna be a good player to justify this idiotic trade and wonder wtf was wrong with them lmao.
we dont have to look back, we already know you have no clue. Caruso had ONE more year on his conctract and Bulls got nowhere with there current roster, which would get more expensive next year if they wanted to keep Caruso. Managing an NBA team isnt about one guy. It's about all guys on the roster and thinking long term, in terms of sucess on court and economically.
@@maxmeier532 not sure why I have to keep explaining this to people, but stop me if I'm going to fast for you. It's not about Caruso, it's about the compensation that the bulls got for him. Trading one of the best 2 way guards in the league in a one-for-one deal for a guy who's a complete liability on both sides of the floor is flat out malpractice. On top of that, they made this deal with a team who's literally loaded with more picks than they can even reasonably use, and they got 0 picks that they will need going into a rebuild. Giving away an all nba defensive caliber player for a bag of stale pretzels is objectively a bad move and does nothing positive in the way of pursuing success either on the court or economically, as you put it. This was an egregious mismanagement of a valuable asset in exchange for a guy who probably won't even be on the team in 4 years.
The world could be ending and Rusty would still find a way to hate on Jaylen Brown. Jayson Tatum shot 38 percent from the field this series
He’s not hating , he just feels that Tatum was more impactful
Tatum did shoot better from theee and the free throw line, as well as being a much better playmaker
Raw fg% is terrible though. Even if we're only looking at the box score tatum averages more than brown and if you watch the games, you'd see that most of the extra passes and open shots celtics have is due to tatum's playmaking
Why would he change his opinion about something basketball related, just because the "world could be ending?" 😏 I swear y'all just say anything, in an attempt to sound sooooo deep! 🤦🏾♂️
Let the P Giddey Era of the Bulls to begin 🔥🔥🔥
as a thunder fan… i’m so sorry but also thank you so fucking much for
Nah this is a semi-L take. Giddey has all star potential for sure. This might get clipped in future
Bulls thought they' traded for Giddey to replace Zo😂😂😂😂😂😂
Isn't Zo coming back next season?
@@pinobluevogel6458 yep
Thunder receive: best 3 and D player in the league. Bulls receive: 0 level scorer that's a traffic cone on defense with a thing for minors. Seems like a good trade.
Great move by both teams.
OKC got a great role player that fits their team and the Bulls get a guy who will probably be talked about as a top PG in the NBA in a couple years. Giddey simply didnt fit OKC, he needs to be on a more traditional roster and coach.
I have a question. Where are you from? I'm fro the South Side of Chicago. I realize Bulls fans are all over the world. I've traveled to Australia, Korea, Canada, but I need to know. I think you make us look bad on so many levels.
This is a terrible take on Josh Giddey and really makes me think you don’t know ball 🤷🏽♂️
Giddey is going to be better than Caruso
It’s actually quite a steal for Chicago. People are juding Giddey by his off the court scandal that is clearly going nowhere from a legal and league standpoint. He’ll be in the league. He no longer fit the Thunder with Jalen Williams becoming a secondary ball handler outside of the ball dominant Shai
Caruso is a backup
Lot's and lot's of ignorance here. Giddey's first two years in the league as a starter were better than Lonzo's offensively. He is 9 years younger than Alex and he could turn out to be a very good player. But since it's Donovan's Bulls, it's more likely to be another Justin Fields type screwup.
You just don’t watch basketball if you think giddey was better offensively
Justin Fields was not that damn good
Bro said I’m too numb to care anymore😂