Facts. Jokic ACTUALLY makes his teammates better unlike another guy who people said made their teammates better but for some reason always needs more help.
@Gymantis I mean to be fair Jokic did need a little more help than Compazzo to actually win the chip 😅 but I get where you're coming from, everybody else makes their teammates better under the right circumstances whereas Jokic does it all the time
Facu is a really solid pg. Jokic makes his teammates better but You gotta give facu his respects. Only reason he is not still in the NBA is bc he prefers europe plus he is 5'10 at most which makes him a defensive liablity altought he really tries hard and is as good as You can get at that size in such a athletic and skilled league
Russ was one of the guys, maybe even the guy, who got me into basketball. I have always loved that he plays at one speed for better or for worse, and that he’s incredibly active and aggressive without being a dirty player. For the last few years I’ve just wanted to see him in a position to succeed, I was excited when his Clippers stint went pretty well in his reduced role. As someone who has defended him for a few years now, this season has been so fun to watch.
Arguably the best offensive player in NBA history, redemption Murray, revived Russ, a Braun who seems to get better and better, Gordon and MPJ. From what i have seen in the west NO TEAM is beating OKC in a 7 game series. However if the Nuggets make one trade that can significantly improve the bench, this is the only team i can see having a chance against them. Denver winning a ring with Jokic, who would officially cement himself as a Top 10 player in NBA history and a starting Russ who everyone labeled as "washed" would be one of the most beautiful storys in NBA history.
Hm idk man. The bench has been so so so good over the last weeks. With westbrook here and gordon back, sure they dont habe a good top 12 or something like the grizzlies, but come playoffs u need 8 or 9 and they do have a very good 8 or 9 man rotation. Rn they actually the deepest they have been in many years and the bench production over the last weeks has reflected that
the nuggets can 100% beat okc without any changes as long as everyone is healthy, they beat okc without Murray and ag earlier in the season and in general okc has no way to stop jokic and russ in the playoffs
I've been a russ hater at times but he's managed to stay relevant when other guards of his size and play style wouldn't have been able to. Plus, he's a very likeable person
I'm a little bias being from Colorado, but the Nuggets are easily one of few teams that has an identity- making them more fun to watch. I just wish we could keep our defensive level above average
This made me realise we've seen every possible permutation of the Thunder big 3 as a duo Russ + KD in OKC Russ + Harden in Houston (and later LA) KD + Harden in Brooklyn
Regarding Gordon, it may be a bit optimistic, but he's shooting 40% on 3 attempts this year and from what I've seen i think it might not be a fluke, i think him being injured has not allowed him to develop enough chemistry with Russ but I think they could find a way to make it work
Joker’s lower efficiency on bunny shots doesnt account for all tge times he gets his own miss and scores. His percentage takes a dip but the possession resulted in a bucket
I don't get the Westbrook hate. He's had a few inefficient years, but he gives you 100% of what he's capable of every night. There are tons of NBA players who don't do that. I'm not shocked teaming him up with the best point center to ever play the game works well.
U worry about his spacing next to aaron gordon? Gordon is having a Career year shooting. His freethrows, 3s everything is up by so mich. He did put a lot of work into his jumper and it shows. Gordon is shooting 43% from 3 this season. He will suprise a lot of. I think he will be even better than 2022/2023 once he is fully healthy again. Oh man this team in general will be suprise so many ppl come playoffs. watch out oh oh oh
The tactical changes to his game are small (cutting more, passing to the Big in the interior) but super significant and are likely to persist. Still skeptical about his 3pt and his decision making when Jokic isn't out there. I think Malone has the same skepticism and is now trying to maximize his minutes playing with Jokic on the floor.
I think people forget that Russell was amazing for the clippers. They had like a top 3 defense and a top four seed. When he was a starter for them. Even when he took a back seat for them they were top seed until he got injured. People act like he’s a bum all because of the lakers. He’s a great player maker and rebounder still at this age and a good defender.
Nah i knew he had a chance to be a great fit there if he bought into being a cutter, its so refreshing to see him contribute to wins while balling. Hes been cursed since he got baptized by the fan with the popcorn but that curse is BROKEN ! he has earned his name back WESTBROOK he put the brick down
Who didn't, maybe you did. And who said he was washed up, you and everyone did, and especially the lame media. See the point is this, whenever you all starts talking about his being washed up, you are still talking like lame stream media. Russ' bad rap started when he got in LA with the Fakers, and everyone piled on, because y'all fake goat was playing like ass. He had good games with the Clippers, but that was overlooked, and he was pushed out. Jokic knew he still had some steam left, because overseas those guys play past 30 because they play real, rules oriented baskeball, not in the NBA and it's easy to exploit the NBA rules with all of the cheating and gambling. Russ was never done, the media and haters just gave up, he didn't. Good on Jokic for picking him up when everyone else was taking him for granted.
I think Russ coulda been a solid fit on the Lakers if they woulda kept Caruso and moved THT. It woulda worked if they got all the other guys right. But they instead got a bunch of old guys the coaching was also terrible. AD and Bron were also hurt a lot especially AD.
People is also wrong about Ben Simmons, he can fix his career, he is not being put in a position to succeed, it is just coaches and game plans. As a Dallas fan I just watched Jason Kidd not draw any plays for Klay Thompson in a game we lost against the Hornets, cause shit ass Dinwiddie and Naji took more shots than him, coaches make players look good or bad.
Russ was supposed to save the Lakers as a $40m super-star and that was a disaster. He didn't fit with an ageing Lebron. Not a surprise! With the Clippers they immediately signed James Hardin and Russ just didn't fit. In Denver he simply fits with Jokic. It's huge. Russ doesn't have to take tons of 3's. As for Aaron Gordon he's been injured this season, but he's shooting 40.7% from 3 this year! He worked all summer on his 3pt shooting and it shows, he's been a lot more confident shooting them. If he does that in the playoffs nobody is going to be able to drop off him and let him shoot, although they will try and do that with Russ. It doesn't help defenses though that Jokic is about leading the league in 3pt % at 47%.
Amazing what Russ can do when he actually lets someone else run the offense and he doesn't stand around off ball. This is what people have been saying for the last ten years, but he always insisted on having one of the highest usage percentages in the league, trying to get triple doubles, gambling on defense for steals, getting high turnovers, and standing around with his hands on his knees on offense. Now, he trusts Jokic to find the right pass and uses his hustle to move around all the time off ball. He finally figured it out.
I would definitely agree that joker is top 5 all time making his team mates better. But bill russell is the goat in that. Magic has a good case as well.
Hot tak: if you took Jordan’s mind and inserted it into LaBron it would he the undisputed GOAT OAT and if you took LaBrons head and inserted it into Jordan it would be a run of the mill CDL driver
Only certain types of people, especially those that look like this guy, say Russ' reputation was "in the mud". People like this is why I support censorship, just talking bullshit!
I don't buy it. Russ is currently profiting from the league finally having realized he's not a threat and to be fair from some genuine hustle. If cuts are a major part of your game, it's because your defender stopped paying attention to you. Genuinely I've seen Russ' defenders stand half way between him and the rim a lot of the time. He's getting the most open corner 3s in the league, because no one respects them. When they use him as a ball handler, he doesn't seem to know what to do half the time. I think if NBA defenses start paying even a little bit of attention to him again, he'll crumble.
Am I only who was optimistic and see what they wish to do with him even if he don't score at all just put effort dog in him push other players to go more and fight and that what Joker don't have he is quite leader not someone who will scream after dunk and stuff like that he need someone to be vocal!
If we want to count before 1979-80, Oscar and Jerry west are better. Luka is better than prime Westbrook: And people you can make a case for putting ahead of Westbrook include: Tony Parker Isiah Thomas John Stockton Kyrie Irving. Gary Payton Walt Frazier
Chris paul is the best player at making their teammates better, jamal murray and deandre jordan are not all nba/all star caliber on the nuggets and no other nugget is an all star…
Honestly I don't think we were wrong about westbrook. He needs teammates to cover for his failings. Numbers show him not being much better than replacement unless that's also changed.
I believe russ has been a great corner 3 shooter even since he was a laker? he shot over 40% from the either the right or left 3 as a laker (cant remember which)
Bro Jokic had Facundo Compazzo looking like a really solid pg that year Murray missed. He definitely elevates his teammates better than anyone ever
Facts. Jokic ACTUALLY makes his teammates better unlike another guy who people said made their teammates better but for some reason always needs more help.
@Gymantis I mean to be fair Jokic did need a little more help than Compazzo to actually win the chip 😅 but I get where you're coming from, everybody else makes their teammates better under the right circumstances whereas Jokic does it all the time
Facu was hectic and should still b in the league
Facu is a really solid pg. Jokic makes his teammates better but You gotta give facu his respects. Only reason he is not still in the NBA is bc he prefers europe plus he is 5'10 at most which makes him a defensive liablity altought he really tries hard and is as good as You can get at that size in such a athletic and skilled league
@@rosen6644so ur saying he is not good enough for the nba lol
Please Nuggets get Westbrook a ring
As a Thunder fan, if we don’t win a chip this year but the nuggets do, we still won a chip lol.
@d-fens5866 Im a Nuggets fan and obviously want them to win the most, but the Thunder are such a fun young team, would be happy if they won
Unfortunately Jamal Murray is inconsistent, Calvin Booth is the worst gm in the league, and Jokic is afraid of contesting layups
@@chrilpyu havent been watching lol
Please Bucks get Lillard a ring
Russ was one of the guys, maybe even the guy, who got me into basketball. I have always loved that he plays at one speed for better or for worse, and that he’s incredibly active and aggressive without being a dirty player. For the last few years I’ve just wanted to see him in a position to succeed, I was excited when his Clippers stint went pretty well in his reduced role. As someone who has defended him for a few years now, this season has been so fun to watch.
Well said brother. My favourite player for the same reasons
Nice take 🙌🏾🔥
Let’s go Busty Nuckets just uploaded
Come again?
Jokic's Effect + Russ energy & effort.
He *really* makes his team mates better.
They* really make their team mates better but yes 100% this is a match made in basketball heaven IMO.
Arguably the best offensive player in NBA history, redemption Murray, revived Russ, a Braun who seems to get better and better, Gordon and MPJ.
From what i have seen in the west NO TEAM is beating OKC in a 7 game series. However if the Nuggets make one trade that can significantly improve the bench, this is the only team i can see having a chance against them.
Denver winning a ring with Jokic, who would officially cement himself as a Top 10 player in NBA history and a starting Russ who everyone labeled as "washed" would be one of the most beautiful storys in NBA history.
He wouldn't cement himself as top 10 all time but he would certianly have a credible case.
Hm idk man. The bench has been so so so good over the last weeks. With westbrook here and gordon back, sure they dont habe a good top 12 or something like the grizzlies, but come playoffs u need 8 or 9 and they do have a very good 8 or 9 man rotation. Rn they actually the deepest they have been in many years and the bench production over the last weeks has reflected that
@@kjjr3270 I think he would get to top 10-12, like Hakeem level, might not crack top ten yet
the nuggets can 100% beat okc without any changes as long as everyone is healthy, they beat okc without Murray and ag earlier in the season and in general okc has no way to stop jokic and russ in the playoffs
@@Yanshiwan he would easily. 3 time MVP with 2 championships, both without having an all star with him. Can't name 10 players with a better resume
I'm so glad for you doing this video, and we in the Westbrook Gang appreciate the apology letter. Ain't his athleticism at 36 insane?
I've been a russ hater at times but he's managed to stay relevant when other guards of his size and play style wouldn't have been able to. Plus, he's a very likeable person
His off the ball movement is what made him work in Denver
Well LeBron is a fake passer and James Harden only cares about shooting passing to big men for high rate assists
@@PrimeKobeBryant ????
I'm a little bias being from Colorado, but the Nuggets are easily one of few teams that has an identity- making them more fun to watch. I just wish we could keep our defensive level above average
I'd be so happy if Russ and Joker won a ring together. It would be so awesome...
Jokic just felt like showing his incredible genius with this move. 😅😂😂😂
He's special fr fr
He was solid for the Flippers before James Harden came and took his role from him.
This made me realise we've seen every possible permutation of the Thunder big 3 as a duo
Russ + KD in OKC
Russ + Harden in Houston (and later LA)
KD + Harden in Brooklyn
He’s also one of the best corner 3 point shooters in the nba at 48%
As an OKC fan I’m so happy seeing Russ doing so well unlike Cup cake KD Russ never gave up on the thunder so I’ll always love him for that
Shame about some of the others…
We’ve been BEGGING him to cut for years now. It took a generational passing talent to get him to do it and he’s reaping all the benefits
Westbrook finally getting his ring and cementing his legacy as an all time great
Dont jinx it pls 😭
Ben Simmons in Denver would be such a wild experiment.
He is an excellent teammate. Hope they reach the Finals.
Regarding Gordon, it may be a bit optimistic, but he's shooting 40% on 3 attempts this year and from what I've seen i think it might not be a fluke, i think him being injured has not allowed him to develop enough chemistry with Russ but I think they could find a way to make it work
Their games compliment each other so well
Russ was a square piece that couldn't fit on a round hole then everyone started calling him a bad piece for not being able to fit.
Off ball movement and his DEFENSE is insane!
Nikola Jokic for GM of the year! 🎉
Joker’s lower efficiency on bunny shots doesnt account for all tge times he gets his own miss and scores. His percentage takes a dip but the possession resulted in a bucket
I don't get the Westbrook hate. He's had a few inefficient years, but he gives you 100% of what he's capable of every night. There are tons of NBA players who don't do that.
I'm not shocked teaming him up with the best point center to ever play the game works well.
U worry about his spacing next to aaron gordon?
Gordon is having a Career year shooting. His freethrows, 3s everything is up by so mich. He did put a lot of work into his jumper and it shows. Gordon is shooting 43% from 3 this season.
He will suprise a lot of. I think he will be even better than 2022/2023 once he is fully healthy again. Oh man this team in general will be suprise so many ppl come playoffs. watch out oh oh oh
Bro been tough im glad he’s proving the haters wrong yet again 👍🏾
January is "Oh?" month after all. IYKYK
Walton and larry bird on that 1980s
Is what iam getting on this
or dennis johnson and larry bird in 84
that's disrespectful to the late Bill Walton, RIP.
Bill Walton, pre-injury, was one of the best big men to ever play in the NBA.
@@jonathansykes4986Nah it’s a good comparison, both are all time great former mvps contributing to winning on a contender in a smaller role
The tactical changes to his game are small (cutting more, passing to the Big in the interior) but super significant and are likely to persist. Still skeptical about his 3pt and his decision making when Jokic isn't out there. I think Malone has the same skepticism and is now trying to maximize his minutes playing with Jokic on the floor.
The least Russ can get during the Playoffs is the Bruce Brown minutes on the bench. That's a positive, Denver has missed that since he left.
I think people forget that Russell was amazing for the clippers. They had like a top 3 defense and a top four seed. When he was a starter for them. Even when he took a back seat for them they were top seed until he got injured. People act like he’s a bum all because of the lakers. He’s a great player maker and rebounder still at this age and a good defender.
Brodie been dat guy
Nah i knew he had a chance to be a great fit there if he bought into being a cutter, its so refreshing to see him contribute to wins while balling. Hes been cursed since he got baptized by the fan with the popcorn but that curse is BROKEN ! he has earned his name back WESTBROOK he put the brick down
Who didn't, maybe you did. And who said he was washed up, you and everyone did, and especially the lame media. See the point is this, whenever you all starts talking about his being washed up, you are still talking like lame stream media. Russ' bad rap started when he got in LA with the Fakers, and everyone piled on, because y'all fake goat was playing like ass. He had good games with the Clippers, but that was overlooked, and he was pushed out. Jokic knew he still had some steam left, because overseas those guys play past 30 because they play real, rules oriented baskeball, not in the NBA and it's easy to exploit the NBA rules with all of the cheating and gambling. Russ was never done, the media and haters just gave up, he didn't. Good on Jokic for picking him up when everyone else was taking him for granted.
Let’s go George Applebottom posted
I think Russ coulda been a solid fit on the Lakers if they woulda kept Caruso and moved THT. It woulda worked if they got all the other guys right. But they instead got a bunch of old guys the coaching was also terrible. AD and Bron were also hurt a lot especially AD.
No one ever talks about how Lakers kept THT over Caruso. Finally you speak on it!
Lakers suck, toxic environment. They always looking for someone to blame. They have been unrespectable since Kobe left.
Why is the mic abs sound so fuzzy
Rudy here. First comment I’ve seen about mic fuzziness. How bad is it on a scale of 1 to 5 (5 being the worst)?
People is also wrong about Ben Simmons, he can fix his career, he is not being put in a position to succeed, it is just coaches and game plans. As a Dallas fan I just watched Jason Kidd not draw any plays for Klay Thompson in a game we lost against the Hornets, cause shit ass Dinwiddie and Naji took more shots than him, coaches make players look good or bad.
Wasn’t Russ really good at corner 3s even on the lakers? I think it was specifically the left corner
Russ was supposed to save the Lakers as a $40m super-star and that was a disaster. He didn't fit with an ageing Lebron. Not a surprise! With the Clippers they immediately signed James Hardin and Russ just didn't fit. In Denver he simply fits with Jokic. It's huge. Russ doesn't have to take tons of 3's. As for Aaron Gordon he's been injured this season, but he's shooting 40.7% from 3 this year! He worked all summer on his 3pt shooting and it shows, he's been a lot more confident shooting them. If he does that in the playoffs nobody is going to be able to drop off him and let him shoot, although they will try and do that with Russ. It doesn't help defenses though that Jokic is about leading the league in 3pt % at 47%.
Amazing what Russ can do when he actually lets someone else run the offense and he doesn't stand around off ball. This is what people have been saying for the last ten years, but he always insisted on having one of the highest usage percentages in the league, trying to get triple doubles, gambling on defense for steals, getting high turnovers, and standing around with his hands on his knees on offense. Now, he trusts Jokic to find the right pass and uses his hustle to move around all the time off ball. He finally figured it out.
LeBron is just not the passer you think he is. He’s a statpadder
I would definitely agree that joker is top 5 all time making his team mates better. But bill russell is the goat in that. Magic has a good case as well.
Glad u remember Bull russell plays on tnt or espn...
Hot tak: if you took Jordan’s mind and inserted it into LaBron it would he the undisputed GOAT OAT and if you took LaBrons head and inserted it into Jordan it would be a run of the mill CDL driver
Simmons too Nuggets would be epic (if he improves)
That would suck. Simmons doesn't have drive. He only cares about what the game can do for him and not what he can do for the game.
"hAliBurToN gIT SOoo mAcH aSsisTs"
-rusty buckets 🤓
Only certain types of people, especially those that look like this guy, say Russ' reputation was "in the mud". People like this is why I support censorship, just talking bullshit!
I don't buy it. Russ is currently profiting from the league finally having realized he's not a threat and to be fair from some genuine hustle. If cuts are a major part of your game, it's because your defender stopped paying attention to you. Genuinely I've seen Russ' defenders stand half way between him and the rim a lot of the time. He's getting the most open corner 3s in the league, because no one respects them. When they use him as a ball handler, he doesn't seem to know what to do half the time. I think if NBA defenses start paying even a little bit of attention to him again, he'll crumble.
His TS% is low due to freethrows the nba won’t give him back his routine. So fk TS% his FG is higher than league
... that routine breaker happened like FIVE+YEARS ago..
@@jonathansykes4986 he had OCD
Am I only who was optimistic and see what they wish to do with him even if he don't score at all just put effort dog in him push other players to go more and fight and that what Joker don't have he is quite leader not someone who will scream after dunk and stuff like that he need someone to be vocal!
Ben Simmons...huh?
hahahahahhah
really?
Point guards better than Westbrook off the top of my head,
Chris Paul.
Magic Johnson.
Stephen Curry.
Jason Kidd.
Steve Nash.
If we want to count before 1979-80, Oscar and Jerry west are better.
Luka is better than prime Westbrook:
And people you can make a case for putting ahead of Westbrook include:
Tony Parker
Isiah Thomas
John Stockton
Kyrie Irving.
Gary Payton
Walt Frazier
I thought bron made teammates better
Chris paul is the best player at making their teammates better, jamal murray and deandre jordan are not all nba/all star caliber on the nuggets and no other nugget is an all star…
You really mentioned DeAndre Jordan at thus stage in his career? That's how I know your position isn't serious.
DJ is like a fossil, why u mentioning him for not being an all star caliber player lmao
bron and dwade lol
Honestly I don't think we were wrong about westbrook. He needs teammates to cover for his failings. Numbers show him not being much better than replacement unless that's also changed.
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jalen green and sengun walked so joker and russ can run
Westbrook has always been a negative on every team he has played for
Wow and he has been in the league for 17 years 😒 something must have worked
Is Westbrook even a top 10 point guard?
He's 36 kid
@@kingbanksss 😂
Gambling for steals is why steals shouldn’t be a stat that’s counted
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Westbrook sucks
Go live your sad life while westbrook enjoys his HOF career. Cry some more you bum 😢
I believe russ has been a great corner 3 shooter even since he was a laker? he shot over 40% from the either the right or left 3 as a laker (cant remember which)
Guys like this shouldn’t talk hoop. I want people that actually played and understand basketball to talk hoop. Not a high school team manager.
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