Great video. Very well explained. I was thinking bow line to the dock, in gear forward with the rudder hard over so prop wash would push out the stern. Get the angle needed, then back away till clear, then straighten out and go forward. I'm going to try this.
Hi nice to see your video. How does new boat sail after leaving dutchman's cove. Where you in the Azores in July? I was thinking seen your boat there. Lou from Penetang was on your boat there .
love the video. a true sailer can continue to learn stuff his whole life if he tries hard enough. unfortunately there are plenty of morons out there who already know everything there is to now about sailing. most of them are are 20 years younger than I am and I love to learn new tricks like this. thank you
Ken...How do you get off if the vessel is 30 tons but has 1340 Hp each side..that's nearly 1700 Hp. Too much power to use springs. Bow thruster not powerful enough to do much either in even 10kts of wind...
Would have liked to have seen the transient dock line as the slack was pulled in to see the technique of the rope on the dock. I have ideas of how to, but would have been a nice visual. Nice video overall. Very helpful.
We tried to get off out of our wharf yesterday with a 20-knot wind blowing us on, we couldn't seem to get the boat to turn out wide enough... something we don't normally have a problem with when we aren't getting blown directly on the side. I am not sure what else we could have done... we tried a spring from the stern to a cleat on the dock around mid-ship, tried a super short line, tried a line on the port cleet and driving forward, it would seem the boat would get to 30ish degrees and stop, we have an obstacle we need to get past. (you can see a video on my channel)... would you have any tips?
The Hopeful Sailor. Using a bow spring line would work better and allow the boat to 90 degrees of the dock If needed. Make sure that the aft spring line from the dock is doubled back to the bow cleat and the dock cleat is at lease 10 feet aft of the bow. Motor forward until spring line is tight then turn the bow into the dock and increase throttle slowly. The stern will walk out. Once the boat is 45 degrees or more with the dock, go to reverse gear and power up. Release one end of spring line and haul in the other end. This works better than rotating around the stern because the prop is designed for more power in forward. Yet there is a wind limit to any approach. At more than 30 kits it is best to stay at the docks even thought it is safe to sail in winds greater than 30 its.
With a small boat, or if the wind wasn't blowing onto the dock, then yes. But not in this case. I don't know what boat that is but I'd estimate at least 8 tons, probably more, so a puny human couldn't push it very fast. As soon as it gets out of reach of your legs/arms*, it'll lose the little momentum you've been able to give it, and the wind would blow it back onto the dock. *And if you look at 1:34 for example and imagine someone sat on the bow, pushing the boat off with their legs - their reach isn't going to be very far at all.
I boat alone, almost exclusively. And in some marinas, with the tide coming in or out, I don't care how great any sailor is, but docking procedures become a genuine challenge and the thrusters help avoid all the marina drama. Especially when over 40 feet.
The filming was all wrong. As the boat backed up using the spring line, the camera should have been showing the spring line and how the crew member handled it. Unfortunate!
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A dockside shot of the procedure would have been the icing on the cake. cheers.
Great explanation and demonstration! Thanks!
Very nice video and explanation of how this works. I'm sure I will need to do this one day.
Nice simple explanation. Thanks, great job
Great video. Very well explained. I was thinking bow line to the dock, in gear forward with the rudder hard over so prop wash would push out the stern. Get the angle needed, then back away till clear, then straighten out and go forward. I'm going to try this.
Beautiful crew! 😊
Nice and neatly done, many thanks.
Nice, elegant and quiet.
I like the finish on the boat very nice and no paint to flake off.
great video. Thanks for sharing.
Great video, Thanks!
I like your crew!
well done!
interesting approach. always good to learn new techniques. my boat has significant prop walk to port, so I would have used it to back out and off.
you could also spring off using a doubled bow line to help counter the wind blowing your stern dockside
very helpful
This a great video! Any good videos on docking in high winds?
Sehr gut erklärt.
Nice Vid! Question: With the stern line tensioned by the boat in reverse how does the crew take up the slack, when we've done this there is none.
Hi nice to see your video. How does new boat sail after leaving dutchman's cove.
Where you in the Azores in July? I was thinking seen your boat there.
Lou from Penetang was on your boat there
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Awesome.
love the video. a true sailer can continue to learn stuff his whole life if he tries hard enough. unfortunately there are plenty of morons out there who already know everything there is to now about sailing. most of them are are 20 years younger than I am and I love to learn new tricks like this. thank you
Which just goes to show you can teach an old sea dog new tricks
Ken...How do you get off if the vessel is 30 tons but has 1340 Hp each side..that's nearly 1700 Hp. Too much power to use springs. Bow thruster not powerful enough to do much either in even 10kts of wind...
Would have liked to have seen the transient dock line as the slack was pulled in to see the technique of the rope on the dock. I have ideas of how to, but would have been a nice visual. Nice video overall. Very helpful.
We tried to get off out of our wharf yesterday with a 20-knot wind blowing us on, we couldn't seem to get the boat to turn out wide enough... something we don't normally have a problem with when we aren't getting blown directly on the side. I am not sure what else we could have done... we tried a spring from the stern to a cleat on the dock around mid-ship, tried a super short line, tried a line on the port cleet and driving forward, it would seem the boat would get to 30ish degrees and stop, we have an obstacle we need to get past. (you can see a video on my channel)... would you have any tips?
The Hopeful Sailor. Using a bow spring line would work better and allow the boat to 90 degrees of the dock If needed. Make sure that the aft spring line from the dock is doubled back to the bow cleat and the dock cleat is at lease 10 feet aft of the bow. Motor forward until spring line is tight then turn the bow into the dock and increase throttle slowly. The stern will walk out. Once the boat is 45 degrees or more with the dock, go to reverse gear and power up. Release one end of spring line and haul in the other end. This works better than rotating around the stern because the prop is designed for more power in forward. Yet there is a wind limit to any approach. At more than 30 kits it is best to stay at the docks even thought it is safe to sail in winds greater than 30 its.
How would you do this if the prop walk takes the stern to port?
The rope will counter that. The Crew member tending the line just needs to keep it tight.
lol was this filmed in Penetangushine? .....at the :14 second mark it looks like my boat?
Hey,,, you forgot to paint your boat!!!
Shame there was no dockside shots of the mooring lines.
Or you could have just pushed the bow out while holding the stern line tight.
With a small boat, or if the wind wasn't blowing onto the dock, then yes. But not in this case.
I don't know what boat that is but I'd estimate at least 8 tons, probably more, so a puny human couldn't push it very fast. As soon as it gets out of reach of your legs/arms*, it'll lose the little momentum you've been able to give it, and the wind would blow it back onto the dock.
*And if you look at 1:34 for example and imagine someone sat on the bow, pushing the boat off with their legs - their reach isn't going to be very far at all.
Als je met zo een schip nog moet leren varen😢😂😅😊
Nice lesson...although, large boats, should have bow and stern thrusters.
most large sailboats do not have bow thrusters. that one did not and race boats never have them. they are for the super rich clueless boat owners.
I boat alone, almost exclusively. And in some marinas, with the tide coming in or out, I don't care how great any sailor is, but docking procedures become a genuine challenge and the thrusters help avoid all the marina drama. Especially when over 40 feet.
The filming was all wrong. As the boat backed up using the spring line, the camera should have been showing the spring line and how the crew member handled it. Unfortunate!
Now do it without the motor.
If your motor's not working you DON'T leave the dock.... simple as that! (It means you're NOT Seaworthy)
Man sailed around the world for untold generations before the invention of the motor.
If I had to do it without a motor I would try to use a boat hook to push the bow off the key.
Je ne comprends pas l'Anglais alors je ne regard pas!!!