RYA Day Skipper: Boat Handling - Tight turn in Rothesay Harbour
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My Catalina 30 TR is in a very similar situation. This the best instructional video I've seen. I can't wait to get to the marina in the morning and execute this maneuver. Thanks so much.
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Im looking forward to april 2021, hopefully the world will have less corona and we will be all able to do our practicals! stay safe and thank you Paul
Works beautifully. A crowd of sceptical Frenchmen who clearly thought it wouldn’t work gathered to watch us, but it was a pretty easy way to get out of a tight spot
Thank you very much. Just come out of the exact same spot. Worked a treat.
maestro de maestros!!! felicitaciones!!! gracias por enseñar!!
Oscar muchas gracias de Leith Nautical Sailing Academy
Encouraging to see someone who knows how to handle his vessel. So many out there who know what they need to know.
It's remembering it when you need it that counts. Sailors need to learn and store quite a lot of stuff in their noggins. I rember 90 ish spring 180 ish spring And steer towards dock.
Wow.....well done Skip !!!
SV Genie, many thanks for your kind comments. We hope you are enjoying our videos. Many thanks for watching.
Well coordinated manoeuvre with everyone understanding and performing their role well. Stern crew handling the fenders and slip line and bow lookout calling distance to helm and slip line handler! Application of port helm then motoring ahead while tethered on the starboard side pushes the stern away from the pontoon and forces the bow to swing to starboard... brilliant physics! No need for a bow thruster in this situation!
Stephen, many thanks for your kind comments. Very much appreciated. Thank you.
Brilliant. You can brush up at home before going out for a Sail.
Grinder spronging! Marvellous demonstration.
Don't look up that term. I invented it when I saw this.
Sprong for the top score in darts (180). Coffee grinding to shorten the line that's just long enough to keep the quarters clear so that the bows are clear too.
Grinder spronging.
Very smoothly done. Using an off-side slip-line is a technique I've used many times on a Dutch barge and various yachts. Clear, to-the-point video with no procrastination. Just 2 questions:-
1) Why would you not initiate the turn (in this instance, and in "Spronging 180") with a back-spring from the port quarter? - IMHO it simplifies the fendering, and in some cases eliminates the need for it.
2) What video editing software are you using? - I want it!
Thanks.
After the bow points 45 degrees relative to the dock, would shifting to reverse and give a few thrusts and let the prop walk help turn the stern work?
Isn't it amazing, the more you practice the luckier you get
Ha!
Please help me understand something since I have a tiller and get confused easily when people talk about the wheel. When I am coming off the dock, I basically act as if I am turning into the dock (In your case wheel to port, in mine tiller to starboard)....once I get past 90 degrees, I then again, turn as if the boat is going into the dock (In my case I put the tiller to port to turn to starboard).
good way is to use the prop walk if room allows, if right handed prop, tiller hard to starboard (tiller to port) kick ahead on the engine neutral, short burst astern, neutral then kick ahead etc, do not adjust the wheel/tiller during the turn, as she will turn to starboard and the back end to port as the prop walk will swing her round.
been in that spot numerous times. We just spring off and back out. Maybe the oceanis does not steer well going astern?
Preacher Rock, that you for your comment. Your approach is an excellent way to get out of the inner harbour. In this clip we wanted to show there is another way in which it could be done. I hope you like our video clip on bringing out the Stern using a bow spring. th-cam.com/video/05yON4UBYEk/w-d-xo.html
it steers very well. that's a stupid idea. springing out like u said is the right way
Perfect job but i din't understand. Why are not we turn the weel to starboard at first?
I’ve been in there a few times. I’ll always remember the magnificent public toilets.
Great demonstration! Was the guy on the winch shortening the slip line?
Hi arch, thanks for your comments. Yes the guy on the winch was shortening the slip line to help reduce the turning circle. As soon as the stern of the boat moved off the pontoon, then he was able to begin shortening the line.
Smashing thanks for the very quick reply. Very useful.
is it easy to do this if tide is beating. the starboard side? past experience Ive been pummelled into side when trying this method
Why not reverse using prop wash, seems there was not much wind ?
Nice
I find this technique really good at Largs refuelling pontoon which can be a place of drama observing some manoeuvres. I prefer it to springing because there is no room to go forwards if one has gone in starboard side to. It adds a degree of control if the conditions allow. Thanks for the video, a good reminder.
Made a bit of a meal of it 😊
Don't quite understand why did you turn the steering wheel to port? Wouldn't the yacht turn quicker with the steering wheel turned starboard?
turn to port uses prop wash to kick the stern away from the platform.
@@lars-sp uhmm... but that would only work so long as the stern is close to the platform
tubetotto this maneuver is meant to swing the boat against the wind, helm to starboard won’t work.
@@lars-sp Wind has zero relevance in these conditions. Also helm works only when a vessel is in motion which barely applies here. My intuition suggests me that turning the helm left has something to do with causing the water current to hit the rudder blade and making it work like a manouvering thruster. The problem I have with it, is that a keel- boat will rotate around the keel so applying this improvised 'thruster' on the starboard would make more sense
tubetotto sorry. I don’t use intuition. But you can certainly try it and turn starboard if you like to.
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Using 2 warp lines, bow and stern, one person could have turned the boat 180 degrees standing on the dock, then safely motored out. This took 2 1/2 people.
J garhart many thanks for watching the video and thanks for your comments. This is one of many ways in which a boat can be turned in a confined space, including warping the boat round. I have used that method on my ownboat on many occasions. The skipper coud also opt to use a bow spring to get the stern clear of the pontoon and reverse out. So given their are other methods for a skipper to use, then why consider adding spronging to your repertoire?
1. We find this works well when the wind is blowing us on to the pontoon, making it very hard to turn the boat 180 degrees with ropes alone.
2. This method can be done by a single handed skipper, or the skipper can choose to involve their crew.
3. The skpper and crew are all aboard during the manoeuevre, removing the risk of someone being left behind on the pontoon
4 It works really well, doesn't take long to practise, and is fun to try.
Very Interesting that you are steering to port, but why? or rather why does this work? What is the outcome if you steer to starboard?
Lee, many thanks for your comment and I hope you enjoyed the video. This technique comes from "Spronging Off". A wonderfully idea that we have been using which I believe was developed by RYA Instructor Colm Cleary. May I suggest you take a look at the Yachting Monthly article which presents a step by step guide to Colm's effective method. The next step is to give it a go. It's an exceptionally useful bit of boat handling to have up your sleeve. www.yachtingmonthly.com/sailing-skills/how-to-get-out-of-a-tight-berth-by-spronging-31197
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Thanks I'll give it a look. Thanks also for the test yourself videos, been using them to rush up on lights, day signs and sounds... Brilliant teaching method.
And when giving helm commands it always always right or left. Not port and starboard.
Josepth, once again thank you for you comment. It's great to hear other peoples views, and with such a range of techniques and instructions available to us, I'm sure you will find one or two other things we do differently. Enjoy the videos.
Why not just rotate the boat thru 180 degrees on the pontoon? Then it is facing the right way and no power needed.
John, many thanks. There are several ways we can get the boat out of the Marina in this situation. In this exercise our Day Skipper students have demonstrated how "spronging" could be used. We could have reversed out of the marina ,using the Bow Spring to get us off the pontoon and on our way. You suggestion could also be a great way to turn the boat, especially if the wind isn't blowing us onto the pontoon. Many thanks for your comment.
There are many methods and it’s good to have a range of techniques for a range of situations. Part of my day Skipper course (not this school), my instructor encouraged us to problem solve using the physics of the boat, tide and wind. By practising a range of manoeuvres and techniques ones confidence increases and the Skipper has better knowledge of how the boat performs (capabilities and limitations) giving more options in any given situation! In my experience, there’s never just one way of doing it.
Класно! Но для этого нужно три ну или хотябы два человека на борту!
Ευχαριστώ. Αυτό θα μπορούσε να γίνει με ένα άτομο!
πώς; Είναι απαραίτητο να αντικαταστήσετε το φτερό και σφίξτε το σχοινί.
It is called a SPRING LINE not a slip line... If you tied it mid ship you wouldn't need to shorten it and you can control the line and get out ALL BY YOUR SELF. That is how we do it in the Coast Guard.. day Skipper..
Joseph, thank you for your comment. you might also like video on springing out a yacht using a stern spring line : th-cam.com/video/BdDmJ8J2hnA/w-d-xo.html
Yes! Another useful method to add to the toolbox of skills! I think in this demonstration, they’re using the term ‘slip line’ since the line is led back to a winch to enable it to be shortened during the ‘springing’ manoeuvre...
It is ridiculous to have to have at least seven fenders (ones that I could see) on board a 41 foot boat. Where do you store those things … go to a proper marina. That one sucks …
now... do it alone..