my 2 cents- ......s l o w d o w n. Everything in Hawaii is on Hawaiian time, including their speech. Nobody is ever in a hurry over there. LOL. Good luck! Thank for putting this out there and having the sack to put YOURSELF out there, too!
Accent--not dialect. Musicality of the words--not the words. Especially the vowels. Tulsi Gabbard sounds very different from Diana DeGette. When she says "January" and "family" with a Canadian flavor, it gives it away. th-cam.com/video/42oNUxPfiCs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/ROd2JuDM8lc/w-d-xo.html
I know you're not trying to speak Hawaiian Pidgin but maybe something like how news anchors in Hawaii would speak the language. I don't know but maybe you can listen to Paula Akana, maybe Guy Hagi. To me Kimo Kahoano is someone who sounds very Hawaiian in a non-Hawaiian Pidgin way. If you want to sound more Hawaiian maybe don't pronounce some of the final "r"s which is more of a trait of Hawaiian Creole English" The word "day" sounds more like "dei" and less like "dei-yee". Hawaiian English speakers use strong "t"s. You're correct. For example say "tigh-Ten" like 'Titan' for tighten. Not like tigh'en were the glottal stops are used on the mainland, such as words button, cotton, mitten, etc. --all of which the "t" is strongly pronounced. You're "o'" sound is good. Voiceless "th" is often "t" and voiced "th" is often "d". So you say, 'dat addah ting' for "that other thing". It sometimes depends on the situation one is in that determines how one will speak. _-I would say there are basilect, mesolect, and acrolect situations-- You're description of the Hawaiian dialect is how the dialect would be spoken in an acrolect situation..... I still applaud you in you're attempt....so nice try.....:)...
It’s hard to explain. Just like a light airish quality. I don’t know the technical terms, I do accents purely on by imitating and just for fun. I find Jack Johnson to be a good basic Hawaiian accent. There’s a lilt in your imitation that seems Irish, sounded good tho, it could just be the rhythm that needs to dialed in more to sound more Hawaiian? Maybe a tad slower with a more lazy pace? Just throwing ideas out! I enjoyed hearing it, actually what clued me in that it was on track is that I heard definite qualities that reminded me of Jack Johnson! I feel like you’ve basically got it it’s just some small tweak and it’ll be perfect!
Don’t know if you’ll ever take another stab, but the comments are right-slow down. Try to learn some history to get a better understanding. We had a plantation era with a large influx of immigrants. Unless you spoke each other’s language, you had to attempt to speak broken English. Now you have a pidgin. Then English becomes standardized. That mixes into a creole English. Practice “ah, ee, oo, eh, oh” vowels. Native Hawaiian and the Asian language had commonalities when pronouncing vowels. You also need to learn the little things like how we use words like “woah.” Not for the word itself, but like how we use words as an imperative verb. “Hooooo da waves was cherreh cuz” or “brahhhhh, you know da kine’s unko.. we made BBQ and braddah can griiiiiiiiind (he can eat a lot).”
Yeah.... the challenge is that while the words may change for the sake of accuracy, I don't have much control of them when narrating so that's why this is pure accent as opposed to accent + dialect. Does that make sense?
Nice try, but, sorry, not very good. It sounds kinda Irish. I'm really excited that you are trying it out though! I agree with thomasvea. Try listen to Paula Akana and even Robert Kekaula, local anchors of Hawaii with classic Hawaiian accents. Guy Hagi is great too but he speaks super Pidgin. th-cam.com/video/SZpY1tKmMm4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Matt, if you're looking for a general regional dialect from Hawaii, I'm not sure the TED presenters are representative enough of the diversity of the population. The videos on our local PBS affiliate have interviews with a good sampling: th-cam.com/users/PBSHawaiiorgvideos
Actually quite welcome. Since what we're going for here is accent and not dialect or language, most of the sources I found were from speeches like the following th-cam.com/video/A5nQZ7_ApM4/w-d-xo.html watcha think?
I feel as though most of these are wrong. For example the r. Some r’s are sounded out with the hard r but if it’s at the end of a word it’s usually not. For example surfer. If I said surfer in my actual accent it would be surfah. Of course each island has their own way of saying words. Maui has a very broken English. Sometimes you can’t understand it unless you live here. We also pronounce our vowels like traditional Hawaiian. So our vowels sound like ah, eh, ii, oh, uu, unless it has another vowel like sound next to it. Like say, if I said it normally for me it would be seh
So funny a lot of people are saying it sounds like Irish. I actually had someone tell me that I had an Irish accent, LOL! I think when you say "Hawaiian" accent, a lot of people confuse it with pidgen. Though a lot of Hawaiians speak pidgen, that's different from Hawaiian "accent".
Right. This one has been a "tough sell," as you can see from the comments. I recommend people go check out some Ted Talks featuring Hawaiians to get the idea of where my notes and imitations are coming from. Example th-cam.com/video/A5nQZ7_ApM4/w-d-xo.html
@@narratormatt I think I understand. Because I look Asian, some people tell me that I have an Asian ascent. I say how? I never learned English in Asia and English is my first language! (I think people jump to conclusion that English is not my first language because I look Asian and I also did live in Asia but I was born in Hawai'i. I think this is more psychological because I also have people who tell me that I don't have Ann Asian ascent and never would have guessed that I was Asian if they spoke to me over the phone. But, I think it's difficult to persuade/sway/change people's opinion once they form one. This is so frustrating to me!) Are you sure it's not a subtle Hawai'ian accent? Then, people say, "No, you don't speak pidgin." I don't think I have met anyone who knew what a Hawaiian accent sounded like. I had someone who insisted that I had a Koran accent because my parents are Korean. I said I didn't but he insisted. I asked him if he even knew what a Korean accent was. He said no. I found a TH-cam vid with a typical Korean accent and played it to him. He said, "You don't have a Korean accent." OMG! I think one's mind is a powerful tool!
@@dreamcatcher2557 What you're saying certainly makes sense. Do you think that my eyes are influencing the way that I'm hearing the Ted Talk link I shared with you?
@@narratormatt No, I don't think so. I, rather, think the listeners may be more biased. I think what makes it more challenging is that not many people know that pidgin is not Hawai'ian accent. What do you think about this Hawai'ian accent? I think this is more common... th-cam.com/video/XmpR41l7BmE/w-d-xo.html
Where you're having a problem is that you are probably talking about Hawaii Pidgin which is actually technically a full blown language or creol not just an accent. Maybe I'mwrong but if not then look up hawaii pidgin voiceovers whuch are usually meant to be funny or Andy Bumatai on TH-cam. He has hawaii pidgin sessions. There is inflection and emphasis at certain parts of the sentence structure that will also help it to sound more natural, but you gotta really learn it to know when.
Nice try but Irish-sounding for sure. Why did you select such an unusual thing to try and say in a "Hawaiian accent" anyway? Just some normal conversational English that might be heard spoken by a local would have been a much better choice than a song imo. Aloha.
I'm hearing more Irish too
Agreed. I grew up in Hawaii and this is Irish/Filipino but not "Hawaiian" rofl
I'm also hearing Irish. We are a blend of Hawaiian, Portuguese, Chinese, Japanese, Filipino and White mixed up and resulting in our unique accent.
What would you say are the many ways your authentic accent diverges from my overly-Irish-sounding one?
my 2 cents- ......s l o w d o w n.
Everything in Hawaii is on Hawaiian time, including their speech. Nobody is ever in a hurry over there. LOL. Good luck!
Thank for putting this out there and having the sack to put YOURSELF out there, too!
This sounds nothing like Hawaiian pidgin. More like some weird Irish/Jamaican mixture...
Accent--not dialect. Musicality of the words--not the words. Especially the vowels. Tulsi Gabbard sounds very different from Diana DeGette. When she says "January" and "family" with a Canadian flavor, it gives it away.
th-cam.com/video/42oNUxPfiCs/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ROd2JuDM8lc/w-d-xo.html
I know you're not trying to speak Hawaiian Pidgin but maybe something like how news anchors in Hawaii would speak the language. I don't know but maybe you can listen to Paula Akana, maybe Guy Hagi. To me Kimo Kahoano is someone who sounds very Hawaiian in a non-Hawaiian Pidgin way. If you want to sound more Hawaiian maybe don't pronounce some of the final "r"s which is more of a trait of Hawaiian Creole English" The word "day" sounds more like "dei" and less like "dei-yee". Hawaiian English speakers use strong "t"s. You're correct. For example say "tigh-Ten" like 'Titan' for tighten. Not like tigh'en were the glottal stops are used on the mainland, such as words button, cotton, mitten, etc. --all of which the "t" is strongly pronounced. You're "o'" sound is good. Voiceless "th" is often "t" and voiced "th" is often "d". So you say, 'dat addah ting' for "that other thing". It sometimes depends on the situation one is in that determines how one will speak. _-I would say there are basilect, mesolect, and acrolect situations-- You're description of the Hawaiian dialect is how the dialect would be spoken in an acrolect situation..... I still applaud you in you're attempt....so nice try.....:)...
Almost put me in mind of an Irish accent on certain syllables!
I know, right? What are some of the Irish feature's you're hearing?
It’s hard to explain. Just like a light airish quality. I don’t know the technical terms, I do accents purely on by imitating and just for fun. I find Jack Johnson to be a good basic Hawaiian accent. There’s a lilt in your imitation that seems Irish, sounded good tho, it could just be the rhythm that needs to dialed in more to sound more Hawaiian? Maybe a tad slower with a more lazy pace? Just throwing ideas out! I enjoyed hearing it, actually what clued me in that it was on track is that I heard definite qualities that reminded me of Jack Johnson! I feel like you’ve basically got it it’s just some small tweak and it’ll be perfect!
What you said about the L’s is so true I don’t consciously think about accents that way so hearing your thoughts is very helpful!
@@thirstykayak246 well, I'll take that and with much gratitude. Especially for the lead with Jack Johnson!
haole
aloha!
I hope that's a greeting and not a departure!
Don’t know if you’ll ever take another stab, but the comments are right-slow down.
Try to learn some history to get a better understanding. We had a plantation era with a large influx of immigrants. Unless you spoke each other’s language, you had to attempt to speak broken English. Now you have a pidgin. Then English becomes standardized. That mixes into a creole English.
Practice “ah, ee, oo, eh, oh” vowels. Native Hawaiian and the Asian language had commonalities when pronouncing vowels.
You also need to learn the little things like how we use words like “woah.” Not for the word itself, but like how we use words as an imperative verb.
“Hooooo da waves was cherreh cuz” or “brahhhhh, you know da kine’s unko.. we made BBQ and braddah can griiiiiiiiind (he can eat a lot).”
Yeah.... the challenge is that while the words may change for the sake of accuracy, I don't have much control of them when narrating so that's why this is pure accent as opposed to accent + dialect. Does that make sense?
Still need one I can do em for real
Go for it!
@@narratormatt so how do you suppose I do it. What do you need?
Nice try, but, sorry, not very good. It sounds kinda Irish. I'm really excited that you are trying it out though!
I agree with thomasvea. Try listen to Paula Akana and even Robert Kekaula, local anchors of Hawaii with classic Hawaiian accents. Guy Hagi is great too but he speaks super Pidgin.
th-cam.com/video/SZpY1tKmMm4/w-d-xo.html
What about the Irish accent?
Hi Matt, if you're looking for a general regional dialect from Hawaii, I'm not sure the TED presenters are representative enough of the diversity of the population. The videos on our local PBS affiliate have interviews with a good sampling: th-cam.com/users/PBSHawaiiorgvideos
Oh, excellent. Thank you!
I’m hearing Irish too. Maybe someone from Hawaii should do a video to reply to him.
Actually quite welcome. Since what we're going for here is accent and not dialect or language, most of the sources I found were from speeches like the following th-cam.com/video/A5nQZ7_ApM4/w-d-xo.html watcha think?
I feel as though most of these are wrong. For example the r. Some r’s are sounded out with the hard r but if it’s at the end of a word it’s usually not. For example surfer. If I said surfer in my actual accent it would be surfah. Of course each island has their own way of saying words. Maui has a very broken English. Sometimes you can’t understand it unless you live here. We also pronounce our vowels like traditional Hawaiian. So our vowels sound like ah, eh, ii, oh, uu, unless it has another vowel like sound next to it. Like say, if I said it normally for me it would be seh
Hit me with some clips! I'd love to hear more of what you're talking about!
So funny a lot of people are saying it sounds like Irish. I actually had someone tell me that I had an Irish accent, LOL!
I think when you say "Hawaiian" accent, a lot of people confuse it with pidgen. Though a lot of Hawaiians speak pidgen, that's different from Hawaiian "accent".
Right. This one has been a "tough sell," as you can see from the comments. I recommend people go check out some Ted Talks featuring Hawaiians to get the idea of where my notes and imitations are coming from. Example th-cam.com/video/A5nQZ7_ApM4/w-d-xo.html
@@narratormatt I think I understand. Because I look Asian, some people tell me that I have an Asian ascent. I say how? I never learned English in Asia and English is my first language! (I think people jump to conclusion that English is not my first language because I look Asian and I also did live in Asia but I was born in Hawai'i. I think this is more psychological because I also have people who tell me that I don't have Ann Asian ascent and never would have guessed that I was Asian if they spoke to me over the phone. But, I think it's difficult to persuade/sway/change people's opinion once they form one. This is so frustrating to me!) Are you sure it's not a subtle Hawai'ian accent? Then, people say, "No, you don't speak pidgin." I don't think I have met anyone who knew what a Hawaiian accent sounded like.
I had someone who insisted that I had a Koran accent because my parents are Korean. I said I didn't but he insisted. I asked him if he even knew what a Korean accent was. He said no. I found a TH-cam vid with a typical Korean accent and played it to him. He said, "You don't have a Korean accent." OMG! I think one's mind is a powerful tool!
@@dreamcatcher2557 What you're saying certainly makes sense. Do you think that my eyes are influencing the way that I'm hearing the Ted Talk link I shared with you?
@@narratormatt No, I don't think so. I, rather, think the listeners may be more biased. I think what makes it more challenging is that not many people know that pidgin is not Hawai'ian accent.
What do you think about this Hawai'ian accent? I think this is more common...
th-cam.com/video/XmpR41l7BmE/w-d-xo.html
@@dreamcatcher2557 yes, this has the qualities I pick up on: d replacing TH, heavy use of the L, very hard R.
Hawaiian is like Mexican combined with Canadian am I right?
Billy Miller no it's not it's a island we're Islanders it's Asian and native American
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Where you're having a problem is that you are probably talking about Hawaii Pidgin which is actually technically a full blown language or creol not just an accent. Maybe I'mwrong but if not then look up hawaii pidgin voiceovers whuch are usually meant to be funny or Andy Bumatai on TH-cam. He has hawaii pidgin sessions. There is inflection and emphasis at certain parts of the sentence structure that will also help it to sound more natural, but you gotta really learn it to know when.
😭 please don’t do this accent before doing more research. this hurts me.
Irish?
this is funny!... but that's not how we talk at all lol. good try though :)
Nice try but Irish-sounding for sure. Why did you select such an unusual thing to try and say in a "Hawaiian accent" anyway? Just some normal conversational English that might be heard spoken by a local would have been a much better choice than a song imo. Aloha.
Errr…. to me, our accent is far more like a stereotypical New Jersey accent. “I gon’ pahk da kah, can?”
Oh no kidding? Do you have any samples that you can point me to?
Oh honey... A for effort though! Can you post a new video?
nothing close brah
You got that all wrong. It no even sound like hawaiians. Brah someone come get dea haole uncle ovea hea
Sorry...sounds Irish
That shit is irish
You neva gonna get da hawaiian accent bah
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