For all those who are making fun of this, it was an awesome thing of its time. The graphical representation of tools like calculator, clock, notepad etc. was somthing people had never seen before. Show some respect. People worked their asses off to get pc to where it stands today.
@@Crono1973 Ohh, teenage detected :) Those times there were no plug&play (USB) keyboards present, but PS2 ones only. And you had to reboot in order BIOS to detect the keyboard :) Besides, in case of your keyboard is broken, I don't think people have spare keyboards...
The heart rate increasing when you hear that retry noise from the floppy disk drive, and the relief when you see that the file number finally increased... oh my
Definitely. A computer was a luxury back in the day. The first computer our family had was in the mid-90s and was a hand me down. It had Wolfenstein 3D on it lol
my mom had one of this back in the eighties, she worked on the Tv-station. i remember playing 4x4 prince of persia connan and some other games on that back when i was 4.
I would bet old tech against any new tech, as older stuff was properly engineered new stuff is engineered for a 1O year life cycle then bin. I mean they put a man on the moon with tech that your wrist watch outmatched nowadays 😄 if I have seen further I have been standing on the shoulders of giants .. ( sorry Newton for the poor paraphrasing)
@@ReasonMakes you realize i already stretched the number to people valuation. Companies and reviews give hard drives 3-5 years max. my 15 years was already very generous consideration if device used lightly. 15 years is estimated of 0 use just literally staying on a shelve which makes no sense. Only thing i can imagine going bad is losing oil in bearings or somehow air seeping into vaccum hard drives. Playing it safe giving just 3 years warranty to devices that can last for decades is really cheapskate. Good manufacturers could make good self advertisement giving 10 year warranty even if they would have to replace half of sold drives.
@@hofame198 top comment like trump playing golf whilst splitting up US society whislt not having a clue of anything and creating mistrust so much that people want violence
I'm crying. Many memories. So many sacrifices from many to achieve that wonder. The children of today despise her, without knowing that they are on the shoulders of giants.
@@d3vilman69 Unfortunately they wind up purchasing keyboards with Cherry (or similar knockoff) switches, so all they get is a bit of cheap shitty plastic going tickety tick.
This was ground breaking at the time. I can't tell you how exciting it was if you weren't around before this. We all take these things for granted now. In the late '70s my friend had a TRS-80 with 4k memory and you loaded a program every time you wanted to use it by command prompt LOAD while simultaneously pressing play on the tape recorder, hoping the volume was set to the right level to eventually load the program into memory.
My dad had a VG5000, it had the same concept with the tape recorder. I wasn't able to write the games programs so I had to type the 2/3 A4 pages of code each time I wanted to play 😂
I showed this to my dad, he told me that this brought back memories of when he and his dad first installed windows, went out to the garage, brought in a box, and showed me tons of floppy’s, telling me about what each one was for, and showed me tons of pictures taken by my grandma showing my dad and my grandpa installing windows 1.0 on the computer. Most showing my grandpa either mashing keys on the keyboard, or him fiddling with all the floppy’s while my dad is trying to read the manual. My aunt was seen in the back in some photos, and even seen messing with the inner components of the pc while my grandpa is yelling at her. Memories.
I seen the same ..I was working at a landfill near a colledge town out here in the southwest.lo should have seen them come in by the hundreds!!everyone was buying but didnt know wtf to do witthem when they quit working.lo.most of them it was operator error.or didnt know what scandisk was ..lo every 6 months for 3 years i went from atx .88.to ax to sx to atsx to dx tosxdx to fxuit rxx gxtx asexx fuckitxxx ..lo.models were upgrading faster than the colledge idiots could afford to buy them.I sold parts off them for months at the same as new back then.well a little less.a 128 mem.slot dimm 40$used but i throw an extra for 20/hellu was badass if you had more than 512 system mem.thats where ram disk came into play.remember ramdisk.
Haha.. Yea.. the 5.4" black plastic floppy.. I hated those floppy disc. The 3.5" drives are small and more sturdy and less likely to damage. Then came along with cds.. bluerays… usb.. and online download.. Boy time, where did all the time have went and just zoom by....
I always wanted to see this on actual hardware! Old computers fascinate me for reasons I can’t really explain. I guess it’s the historical factor, especially since digital history isn’t preserved as well as textbook history. It’s always a treat to see old tech and learn how it works.
Ya, sometimes it's a big wakeup call to remind myself of those days and some of the hassles we used to put up with, along with the simple things we thought were a big deal at the time.
At first I'm like what's going on? Then it all flashed back to me. Are we going to count up to 512k, 640k, or 640k with 384k extended memory. When we hit 640k and stopped, 1985 flashed back to how many times I sat through that memory check and watched my autoexec.bat scroll by as it set up each of the systems. These days, if my personal computer mouse goes dead or whatever, I can just grab my work mouse, plug the usb dongle in, and keep working with no delay. Changing the mouse driver back then was hell. You had to have the driver on disk. There was no real internet to download it from. And you had to hope it worked because there wasn't much information out there to figure out how to fix it. You would end up rebooting 10 times before it was all working again. That memory count took a century when you were doing all that.
That is a very advanced machine for the era! I was working setting these up for the offices on the University of Iowa campus at this time. A Hercules card was a considerable step up from the IBM display card. The XT ran its 8088 processor at 8MHz, much faster than the original PC at 4.77. And a 40 MB HDD was a real luxury. Most had only 1 or 2 of the 360 KB FDDs. They came stock with just 64 KB RAM, but many upgraded to 256 KB. It wasn't till the AT came out about 2 years later that we saw much more than that. Our team probably set up 2000 of these bad boys.
Go Hawks! I graduated from U of I BS in computer science 1986. I worked in Administrative Data Processing in the basement of Schaeffer Hall until1989 when I left Iowa city.
@@EarlHiggins We were there at the same time! I worked in the Weeg Magic Shop in the basement, probably 83-86. I was actually doing work-study, I was majoring in Chemistry. I later dropped out, and finished at the U of Minnesota, in Chemical Engineering.
@@michaelf7093 Ha, that's amazing. I interviewed in the spring of '86 at Weeg, sounds like I was interviewing to be your replacement? Interviewer was a woman named, I believe Chris Pruess or something like that. I didn't get the job…
Actually the XT was also 4.77 MHz. A lot of the clones were clocked at higher speeds though (thus the creation of the "turbo" button on many of them). The major deal with the XT besides more slots and memory capacity was the standard 10MB hard drive.
Wow, this takes me back to the beginning of my IT career! Before I even read the description I could tell a 5.25" floppy drive was in use by the sounds it makes. These were the days my friend.
Hallo das kann ich ihnen nachfühlen, mir geht es genauso, auch für mich war das der Anfang in der IT. So sehr man heute darüber lächelt, es war eine aufregende Zeit. Und bei dem Geräusch musste ich auch gleich an das 5.25 Laufwerk denken. Damals hat man noch jeden Chip persöhnlich gekannt 😀 und sich als Programmierer anhören müssen, Platz sparen um jeden Preis 😀😀😀
This old PC didn't even have a battery-backed clock! It still boots up thinking that it's back in 1980... Ahhh... those were some of my best memories! 😊
@@thebestspork - back at the start of the 80s you needed to specifically purchase a battery-backed clock as an add-on card for your PC. By the end of the decade they became standard, of course.
I had a commodore 64 on 1982. They had the best coding team on earth, later on transferred to IBM after C=64's downfall. We've experienced 16 colours gameplay, had animation and drawing apps, and much more.
Sadly I had Commodore Vic-20 (thats 20k bytes). You actually used a cassette recorder and stored your info on cassette tapes. The one good thing it had was a slot for cartridges, like an 8-track.
This thing opened the memory floodgates. When I was going to school in the 80s, all you heard in computer labs, when you walked in, was the sound of all the computer cooling fans spinning at full speed. I’m surprised this thing is still functioning as it did 40 or so years ago. Amazing!!!
@Alladeen Mdfkr You don't get it, do you? Even something as trivial as visiting a website like Google or TH-cam would've been much more difficult back then!
@@Peter_Parker361 Visiting a website like TH-cam is not even "trivial", at least not "under the hood". The web structure is immensely complex today, and so are servers and browsers with all their levels, protocols, subsystems, parsers, etc. And to actually understand the advanced compression techniques used in most video formats, you actually need about two-three years worth of math studies at university level. After that we have the CPU with microcode translation, register renaming and speculative execution, the memory system with several levels of associative caches and the inner works of the dispatcher, file system and operating system in general. Most people using computers today don't have a clue about most of this. Pretty different from when the computer was still young (say in the early 40s to mid 70s, or longer, in many cases).
Wow, brings back memories, depressing that is. I was there (85-87) worked on this thing. (One of a few "testers".) Small team (15 people max - including developers/testers/admin), worked weekends. Remember going to lake bellevue sitting on the dock at lunch in my work clothes while people were splashing in the water enjoying one of a few sunny days. Worked all thru summer and got my bonus of about $1000. When I calculated the hours it worked out to less than min wage, $2.50/hour. I felt like f this, I'd rather have paid them to enjoy my summer. Tester salary was about $18k, developer $24k. Didn't see much of Bill but Ballmer was our "cheerleader" (nice man), Chris Peters was nice too as was most everyone. Lynn Shaw (Paint dev) was cute and I had s crush on her. Gabe (lead tester, like that was anyones asperation) was a jerk as most of the testers. I rembr him sneezing all over my keyboard - messy/wet - and not having the decency to wipe it off. Or when he came by to ask me if I wanted to go with him to Seattle to pick up his new CRX (Honda) and for a fleeting moment thinking he wanted to get to know me better, until he mentioned he wanted another body so he could use the carpool lane - j-azz! (I declined.) No, I did not get stock options - most grunt level did not. The IPO was $24 and a $2k investment would have made $80k but that was before ETrade, not like us young kids had stock brokers. Always thought it said a lot about Bill and Jobs when they restricted stock. Hell, when Qualcomm went public, even the receptionist became a millionaire. Left in 87 to finish my degrees in comp-science - thru Masters (moved back home). All I had to show for it is my signed letter from Bill thanking for work on win1, my shrink wrapped copy (still have both, wonder if I should put on EBay?) and a reference on my resume - which I dropped years later because I went into SAP where the money was much better and working on windows not only dated me but was irrelevant. Surprised to see so many views of this. Funny Gates stories... 1st xmas party I went to was spectacular. Gates was drunk and dancing like a spastic with absolutely no sense of rhythm. I pointed and laughed, he stopped and stared at me as I slinked into the crowd. A minute later, he yells at the top of his lungs "I WANT TO GET LAID!" Everyone stared in shock as some lady escorted him off the floor. We were at the new Bellevue facility... Gates was bouncing on one of those mini one-person trampolines in his office. A "newer" office assistant, who bill was not familiar with, walked by the open door and said "be careful you dont hit your head on the ceiling". Bill replied "I can hit my head if I want to, it's my company."
I worked for MS before but way later than your time. Working within a team or teams for product like that scale is kinda fun but very stressful. Plus the time/effort put in vs the return does not match at all. I spent tons of hours and invented 4 patents in return of a 2.5 review and then sadly moved on for better future.
Thank you for sharing your experience, but why your are surprised (last comment)? It is a history for many people just on the other side of the computer. Many collect biographies, memories, and so on because it is a reminder of the time when we were young(er). If there was a book "History of MS grunt" or something like this I would definitely buy it.
This is history you never hear about, only ever hear how the big boys like gates and jobs personally invented everything and everyone else involved was irrelevant.
Hello, sir! I'm tester too working in a russian company which develops a BPM system. I can remember only Windows 95 installed on school PCs - that was the time of the first meet. This is so amazing to face true history by luck! Could you please share your own believings from the past (about IT future) and did humankind does well or even better?
These are what paved the way for anything today. This was a top of the heap PC for its day. I enjoyed learning the DOS commands and loading floppy drives. It's how we learned to appreciate all of the sweet rigs that are being built today. WE were the GUI (graphical user interface) of the day. Glad this still exists to show people how the computing world got its start. Although they had entire rooms of equipment to run simple commands before the PERSONAL computer, this was ahead of its time and outdated (like everything else today) in a few months. Good stuff!!
There are people out there who have never seen, let alone heard of a floppy drive. A group of millienials drag a woman up to IT. "We've found a witch may we burn her?" "How do you know she's a witch?" "She has this strange thing in her hand she claims is computer storage."
Lucky. The first IBM PC that I used had 64k of ram. It also had a cassette port on the back. I did run AutoCad on that, but a redraw of a drawing of any size was a call to go to lunch.
@@locutus155 "What is this object, woman" "Why...it is a CD-ROM m'lord. It has etchings made by a burning light that reveal instructions to a machine not unlike our beloved Computer" "Nonsense!!! This is dark magic from 'The Time Before'. Burn the witch!!!"
no important software of note was authorized first on a PC. First www server and client, NeXT. Photoshop, Excel, Word, etc. etc first written on Macs. Lots of good games on PCs I guess.
This takes me back. My customer was a large company which made their own microcomputers and wanted me to implement Windows on them. At the time I knew nothing about Windows but managed to get hold of the Windows 1 development kit. It soon became clear that it wasn't going to work. The essential thing with Windows was that it worked by using BIOS functions to write to graphics memory which was automatically displayed by hardware. The microcomputer I was trying to implement it on had a graphics chip which you had to send individual commands to in order to do anything. So I patched the BIOS to write to local memory and wrote a cyclical task which sent commands to the graphics chip to update memory locations which had changed since the last time. Sadly I found out that Microsoft had a horrible mixture of ways to write to graphics memory. Sometimes they used BIOS functions to write to the graphics memory and sometimes the software literally just wrote directly to it. On top of that of course, there simply wasn't enough processing power to do what I was trying to do. I did find a few bugs in the Widows software though. Often the functions were writing whole chunks of graphics memory although only a few bytes had changed, apparently because they had an error in the calculation of the number of bytes to transfer. If it hadn't been for Intel dramatically increasing the speeds of their processors over the years, Windows would never have made it. I remember that you could start something like 12 instances of the clock and a PC (not an XT) would freeze.
Late to the game, but I fear nothing much has changed since then. I developed a package back when, also writing to the BIOS, but used a function to do it. Thus I could adopt to changes. Never the less, after decades of using Windows, I left for Linux. Linux shares a lot of the weak spots of Windows, but at least, I don't pay for it. Being a Developer myself however, I would line up the Developers of either Worlds and fire every second one of them. In both Worlds, they are absolutely lousy when it comes to error handling. Without the Internet, the kill ratio of PC's would be much higher. Just the past few days, I wasted endless hours hunting down a problem why Thunderbird issues an error message when trying to use "share" and send a mail. Research showed that the problem is known for nearly 12 years. No cause has been established, no solution. Works fine on one Laptop, but not the other. I tried all kinds of permissions etc to no avail. Finally de-installed and reinstalled and called the Program with the parameter to select a profile and it finally worked. Nothing is more frustrating when one is not the common user, but tries out various things only to meet one obstetrical after another, of course all with meaningless error descriptions or none at all. You would assume that when in Linux you define a Browser in it's setup as the default one, that is it. Far from true. There is an additional System Setting to be set. So sometimes the Browser setting is used, sometimes the System Setting. Constancy? Nope. I still have no idea what Windows update is actually doing. It was supposed to get faster, but that is far from being the case. It gets worse every time. Of course it throws cryptic error messages at you and you look at the forums for solutions and become mentally a mass killer, cause the proposed solutions have nothing to do with the Problem. Likewise, I am extremely skeptical when it comes to Cloud solutions. Like here on Yahoo, sometimes you see Comments, sometimes they disappear. You find them with youtubecommentsdownloader. Solution or explanation from Google? None to be found. Sorry for the rant, but life with computers can be truly frustrating.
Back in 1995 I saved the bios program from RAM to floppy. What I wanted to do was to use the Low Level Format part of the Bios as a program. Although I messed around with many parts of it, it only incremented the day number of the date by one each time the program ran. In the end, I couldn't stand it and gave up. I'm still not sure if I'm doing anything sensible. Do you think I may be close to the solution?
We all had computers with very low RAM and they still ran any browser quite well. The browsers from nowadays and most apps are designed to eat up a lot of unnecessary resources, just so you're forced to upgrade your PC from time to time. It's all a marketing thing.
I started my career working and supporting these machines. Still love DOS, it was so clear and easy to understand. Also upgrading to new versions was easy because you only had to focus on the new commands and features and they were very well documented as well.🙂
I used to work for a company selling XT clones in 1985-1986. Boy, does this take me back to those days. The HD in the video is at least 5 years newer than the computer. We sold 5MB hard drives in those days!
61 / 5 000 Are you sure ? Even the IBM XT from 1983 could be equipped with a 10 MB Seagate ST-412. 20 MB ST-225 was aviable in 1985. 40 MB ST-251 was aviable in 1987. 5 MB ST-506 was introduced in 1980. This PC was produced in Czechoslovakia betwen years 1987 - 1990.
I remember buying a copy of Windows 1.0 at my university's book/computer shop. It was merely a curiosity as I had no software to run on Windows at the time, so I played a bit with Clock and Calendar then went back to DOS and Word and resumed my productive work 🙂
Which one? The actual paint or paint 3d? I actually have both on one of my Windows 10 computers.... The problem with paint 3d is that the UI is stupidly complicated (and possibly broken?) for no good reason. Paint, on the other hand, is beautifully simple but has no transparency. In most cases, regular paint is so much better.. 😂
Good old days ... Since I was 14 years old (1984), my career has started with the Commodore C64, then Commodore C128d and Commodore PC10-II. Beginning with Windows 3.0 and 3.11. First 1200bd PacketRadio (HamRadio), then 2400bd modem up to 56k mailbox, BTX and internet connection. Good old memories.
You are on my team, Sir. I was 18 years old and I started to work as programmer with my own C-64 and its datasette on 1986. I still remember the sound of the cassette being reading by that thing. Thank you for the memories.
@@ArielP11 Yes sir, memorys of C64 and Datasette. Normal, TurboTape, Turbotape II and Supertape acceleration. I've build-in some items and a green LED, to see activity on the data-line. It's legendary to wait, the program is loading. The program could be recognized by the flickering of the screen and the sounds. Sometimes the program was loaded incorrectly, then I had to go into the source code, recognize where the error was and correct it. That's how I learned to program. Legendary my first program: 10 print "Hello world" 20 goto 10 I kept building that up with a timer and free text input: 10 input a$ 20 print a$ 30 for i=1 to 1000 40 next i 50 goto 20 and so on... everytime a little bit more.
Never did get into the Commodore ecosystem, tho my dad did, mostly for fun (and for packet radio). I had a 64 at one point but didn't do much with it; also inherited all Dad's C64 and VIC hw/sw/books when he went SK. Couple years ago I sold all of it at the Orlando Hamcation; made a surprising amount of money off it.
Thank you for remembering how old I am. Remembering each sound from 5,25 inch floppy to harddisk positioning and the keyboard typing like it was yesterday when I was using such a PC.
@@TheUtuber999 yes, you're right. It was a christmas present in 91. And there was another year that I ran everything with DOS and Norton Commander before I got a copy of Win 3.11. But I definitely remember that dad had win1 at work several years before that.
It's so cool to see this as a computer science student in 2022. I wasn't around when this PC was a thing, unlike, I guess, most people here. But it's good to see how far we've come and also to see working history on my screen. Thank you for this video!
Wow. This is a blast from the past. I barely remember this OS. It's amazing just how advanced the Windows OS has become since then. From 1 to 95 to 98 to NT to XP (Xtra Problems) to 7 to 8 to 10 and now Windows 11. It's really grown.
I made an autoexec.bat start up file that played the, "ta da da dat dada charge," sound. People paid me to put it on their autoexec.bat file. I wrote it in GWbasic.
@@rireki_riri I will find it. It was done for an MS-DOS 3.3 start disk. I will see if I can find the GWBasic programme that made the little startup tones.
*At least 5 Generations of Bavarian Chichillas have come and gone during this boot-up.* *I was waiting for "Black Screen of Death" and "Windows is Restarting", then a Scream and a Pick-Axe coming out of nowhere. xD*
had plenty off to i me to go get a pizza if you could take your eyes off the screen! my freinds would unplug the meter at the back of the house just to get me outside to go ride and party.those crts were just mesmerizing
I'm 18 so i never had the chance to mess with these retro computers but they still fascinate me and even more than that, i love sounds they make, especially the hard drive sounds
@@johnarnold893 they do if you put your ear up to them, older ones however can make a relatively loud grinding sound, my original xbox has one such hdd, you can hear it grind from 2 meters away
I have to admit it is fascinating to see Windows 1.0 for the first time. The first version of Windows I ever used was 3.0, and I was an elementary school kid at the time. 🖥️
Я немного работал в 3.11, но мне просто повезло. У матери на работе стоял один очень старый компьютер, совсем слабенький, памяти в нем хватало только на 3.11. Воспоминания
@@Влад-ц2ш7х Honestly, Microsoft Windows didn't feel like a legit icon-based operating system until Windows 3.1, anyway. My family had upgraded to Win 3.11 by the time the computer in my high school video production class had 3.0. I remember how frustrated I was teaching the teacher in class. It was that big of an advancement! 😆
Been there. At least usually there was a netware network since I made the obviously wise choice to be a netware admin so I just loaded it on the server and installed from there or even just ran it from the server as some machines booted from a floppy and didn't even have a hard drive . DId that all the way up to Win 3.11.
I started in the Computer field in 1966 with medium-sized Mainframes. I was a customer engineer. and serviced and maintained computers by soldering in individual transistors and diodes. I went through punch cards, paper tape, into the more modern mag tape and the first Hard drives. When the PC came in, we all thought it was a fun thing to play with, but it wouldn't catch on. They were too slow (like in this video). I retired 1 year ago and have been around for the latest and greatest computerized machinery. I was there for the start of Microsoft and knew that Gates stole his MSDOS from Digital Research's DR-DOS. and borrowed Windows from XEROX. There were previous releases from Diebold, Burroughs, NCR, etc. but Gates was smart at copying and hiring smart people. I have learned so many operating systems and compilers, I had a hard time keeping them all straight. VRX, IRX, IMOS, NEAT 3, MSDOS, Windows 3.1 to Windows 10, UNIX, and proprietary versions of UNIX. I learned Binary, Base 4, Base 8, decimal, Hexadecimal. When my kids had to learn "New Math" I showed them how it works. Kids today don't know how easy they are going to have it. Everything today runs Windows 10 or Apple, with an occasional UNIX or LINUX, and they only have to know Decimal. Hardware is all modular, and the computer installs itself. They will never know the satisfaction of building their own computer or knowing the difference between an AND Gate and an OR Gate, and they won't know what a monostable multivibrator is or a flip/flop. (no, it's not kinky.)
In a similar vein Jim, my first computer was a Varian. Loaded up the operating system, programming language and program into memory using binary switches on the front panel to load into different memory locations. I learnt 6502, Fortran, BASIC, Pascal and C. Getting a hard disc with 2TB of memory or a micro SD card with 128GB just blows my mind!
Ah, but you probably weren't there when they used valves instead of transistors... none of that new fangled stuff. And Charles Babbage would probably have looked at your era and said " You dond know how lucky you are! In my day, we had to make every cog out of brass and wind it all by hand!" 😉
Is this what people did with computers back then? Open calculator... 3+3=6.....check Open calendar.....today is monday.....check Open clock.....its 11 o clock......check Open paint.......make random shapes and lines........check.. End windows session Later that day, "Hey Bill, what did you do today?" "Oh i did some very important work on my COMPUTER" "...oh wow... that does sound very important" Bill: :)
haha love your comment! greetings from germany, I was working today also very important stuff on my computer. :D :) (the performance and software changes, but still killing a lot of time with it)
A trip down memory lane, and appreciating all the more what hardware and software designers had to do in those days just to achieve this output. Much of these processes and settings remain the core of Windows, and yet they are now only a small portion of a mammoth environment and in a smaller box. Thanks for putting this up!
@@Articbear thank God you're here to narrate present day life. Here we all were, oblivious to our surroundings. Could you also tell us what year it is and what planet we live on?
William Ball Are you experienced with programming and the computer evolution then? If so, did you enjoy it? The programming ? And what were you doing exactly? Else, tell me more about your experience with computers
@@aster1222 youre telling a lot of questions :D Me, for myself, have been programming with Basic when I was a child. Made some funny little games for retarded(I hope thats the right word) kids. It was a good feeling, hence programming with Power Basic was oldschool. There was also Visual Basic which I wasnt interested in because of the visual surface to work with. :b I, somehow, liked the command-line surface of basic. The computers back then were slow as sh t but yeah: "Good old days!". There comes a lot of nostalgia seeing this old computer.
umm yea most computers that are used for any heavy lifting (not just browsing the internet or movies) are usually as loud , if not louder. even a full on water cooled system can be loud under heavy load....
Thanks for posting this video since it really takes me back... The sound so the Seagate HD spinning up and homing the heads, the memory check, the floppy drive heads moving... even the glimpse back to Norton Commander loading. It's amazing to think I grew up in an era where this tech was just blooming and now there's so many fields and in-depth technologies that have evolved, I could have spent 24/7/365 and still not have been able to keep up with all the developements and evolutions over time. Cool vid! Thx!
I don't think I could ever get over seeing an ancient system still operational. There are actually many computers that last for many more years than expected. It's simply their ability to be able to keep up with technology. IE. to be fast enough, to have enough Hard drive space, or enough memory or fast enough memory. I've still got my first second hand computer which is a Compaq 486DX2 66Mhz with an orange monochrome monitor. I think originally it only had a 50Mb HD which I upgraded to a 250Mb HD. It's original OS was MS dos 6.22, then Windows 3.1 and finally Windows 95
could you imagine typing on a clunky typewriter, with no back space, having to start all the way over if you made an error and then seeing this? wow! wish you would do a video showcasing all the cool programs of the time, like microsoft flight sim, maybe some specialized technical programs for businesses etc
Oh, the good old days! My very first job was with a company in Walton-on-Thames that built IBM XT/AT compatible clones. This does brings back some great memories of the early days of PC's. Thanks for the great video.
people would be amazed at the techonology then look at the hardware specification and wonder just why windows and software is SO freaking slow and bug ridden when it technically should be instant for everything due to the hardware.....
@@ukdashcamguy500 This computer easily not run the Windows 10. Imagine someone viewing the modern PC with Windows 10 and the owner of this computer asking how to connect to the internet...lol
For all those who are making fun of this, it was an awesome thing of its time. The graphical representation of tools like calculator, clock, notepad etc. was somthing people had never seen before. Show some respect. People worked their asses off to get pc to where it stands today.
It’s 2020 and I now use mostly terminal for everything.
I think you're forgetting Xerox and Apple.
@@jari2018 you completely missed the point for your negative thinking
@@neilldehaan2522 I'll give you Xerox (where Apple stole their GUI-guys from), but Apple itself was bullshit to begin with.
Nah I genuinely think this is insane, and how foreign/ futuristic this must’ve looked to people at the time
Fun fact - windows1's explorer (MS-DOS Executive) still can run on windows 10 and even all of the functions is working.
Only on 32 bit copys
Ohhh the times when computers ask:
"Keyboard not detected, press Enter to continue"
WTF ??
@@Crono1973 Ohh, teenage detected :) Those times there were no plug&play (USB) keyboards present, but PS2 ones only. And you had to reboot in order BIOS to detect the keyboard :) Besides, in case of your keyboard is broken, I don't think people have spare keyboards...
i love the sound when computer startup
lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Reminds me of my old Atari Ste that had a built in keyboard and whopping 1 MB of RAM.
The heart rate increasing when you hear that retry noise from the floppy disk drive, and the relief when you see that the file number finally increased... oh my
yes that was scary as a child, then the error hits
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If you were lucky to have one of these in your house, back in the days, you were fortunate and your parents most likely had a good job.
Definitely. A computer was a luxury back in the day. The first computer our family had was in the mid-90s and was a hand me down. It had Wolfenstein 3D on it lol
my mom had one of this back in the eighties, she worked on the Tv-station.
i remember playing 4x4 prince of persia connan and some other games on that back when i was 4.
Like Mises said: The luxury of today is the necessity of tomorrow
Computer: yes is ones
Or if you lived in my neighborhood, your parents worked for IBM. :)
The fact that a computer like this is still running at this day and age is amazing.
I would bet old tech against any new tech, as older stuff was properly engineered new stuff is engineered for a 1O year life cycle then bin. I mean they put a man on the moon with tech that your wrist watch outmatched nowadays 😄 if I have seen further I have been standing on the shoulders of giants .. ( sorry Newton for the poor paraphrasing)
Amazing how robust our tools were before planned obsolescence.
and yet everywhere i read people say hard drives last only 15 years max even if its unused.
@@boyinpyjamas Yes, because they are planned to fail to keep the consumer-worker actively feeding the capitalist machine.
@@ReasonMakes you realize i already stretched the number to people valuation. Companies and reviews give hard drives 3-5 years max. my 15 years was already very generous consideration if device used lightly. 15 years is estimated of 0 use just literally staying on a shelve which makes no sense. Only thing i can imagine going bad is losing oil in bearings or somehow air seeping into vaccum hard drives. Playing it safe giving just 3 years warranty to devices that can last for decades is really cheapskate. Good manufacturers could make good self advertisement giving 10 year warranty even if they would have to replace half of sold drives.
It's amazing how much Notepad has not changed in almost 40 years.
It's not supposed to. It's a raw text editor like msdos editor.
@jeffisaliar yea, idk where he's getting at.
Now imagine
When you think about windows 10 in 2050.
seems like Paint had more options back in 85
...and watching this from linux
U r wrong
windows 10 will remain and get updated. but windows soon will die, you know?
@@ilove-sk4yi no
I saw this computer in my grandmas house when I was 8 and I was like: This is the future.
And now you are the president or something?
@@hofame198 top comment
like trump playing golf whilst splitting up US society whislt not having a clue of anything
and creating mistrust so much that people want violence
@@MrTiti LEAVE IT ALONE
@SublimeHawk6 LEAVE IT ALONE
@@Eloy_official13 what
2007: But can it run Crysis ?
2020: But can it run Cyberpunk ?
1985: But can it run Paint ?
1985: Can run image 640x480 ? colorful? (don't expect to run more of 16 colors...)
@@eds2011 Ohh Amiga is coming ... :-)
2015: But can it run Doom?
1997: But can it run doom?
2041:But can it run Half-Life 7
2061:But can it run Cyberpunk 3077
2081:But can it run GTA 6? :)))
I am in my 40's and it is super fun to see PC tech I could never afford as a kid.
Why does somebody need this useless piece of shit?
@@dragomiraleksandrov2190 For example, because someone is not mentally limited and wants to understand the development of technology in context.
I'm crying. Many memories. So many sacrifices from many to achieve that wonder. The children of today despise her, without knowing that they are on the shoulders of giants.
yes...😒😒
Just LOVE that sound of the floppy disk drive's motor running!
I love the sound too 😃 This was a 3,5 drive, not a 5,25'
I to
I like too the sound
Thinking the same... haha
IAm loveing it
Those days when pressing keys on a keyborad itself gave adrenalin rush. Felt like super geek.
Mice and touchscreens just killed it all )))
Very True
People now still spend more bucks to get mechanical keyboards that recreate those nostalgic clackety-clack sounds
@@d3vilman69 Unfortunately they wind up purchasing keyboards with Cherry (or similar knockoff) switches, so all they get is a bit of cheap shitty plastic going tickety tick.
@@Roflcopter4b Got to get the Model M!
This was ground breaking at the time. I can't tell you how exciting it was if you weren't around before this. We all take these things for granted now. In the late '70s my friend had a TRS-80 with 4k memory and you loaded a program every time you wanted to use it by command prompt LOAD while simultaneously pressing play on the tape recorder, hoping the volume was set to the right level to eventually load the program into memory.
TRS-80 user here as well with hard core gaming such as Hunt the Wumpus. Man I was bad. I still have the game tune in my head to this day.
for yes reason on every experience i Join.
Przełomowe?🤣 Amiga 1000, produkcja 1985.
My dad had a VG5000, it had the same concept with the tape recorder. I wasn't able to write the games programs so I had to type the 2/3 A4 pages of code each time I wanted to play 😂
and if there was a single "hicup" with the tape you had to start over. I hated that
I showed this to my dad, he told me that this brought back memories of when he and his dad first installed windows, went out to the garage, brought in a box, and showed me tons of floppy’s, telling me about what each one was for, and showed me tons of pictures taken by my grandma showing my dad and my grandpa installing windows 1.0 on the computer. Most showing my grandpa either mashing keys on the keyboard, or him fiddling with all the floppy’s while my dad is trying to read the manual. My aunt was seen in the back in some photos, and even seen messing with the inner components of the pc while my grandpa is yelling at her. Memories.
I seen the same ..I was working at a landfill near a colledge town out here in the southwest.lo should have seen them come in by the hundreds!!everyone was buying but didnt know wtf to do witthem when they quit working.lo.most of them it was operator error.or didnt know what scandisk was ..lo every 6 months for 3 years i went from atx .88.to ax to sx to atsx to dx tosxdx to fxuit rxx gxtx asexx fuckitxxx ..lo.models were upgrading faster than the colledge idiots could afford to buy them.I sold parts off them for months at the same as new back then.well a little less.a 128 mem.slot dimm 40$used but i throw an extra for 20/hellu was badass if you had more than 512 system mem.thats where ram disk came into play.remember ramdisk.
Cara, que história emocionante :')
What clothes were they wearing at that particular time? Was it winter or summer?..
@@Nostalgicguy2242 Professor?
High Stakes?
Haha.. Yea.. the 5.4" black plastic floppy.. I hated those floppy disc. The 3.5" drives are small and more sturdy and less likely to damage. Then came along with cds.. bluerays… usb.. and online download.. Boy time, where did all the time have went and just zoom by....
*11:51* A horse delivers your request to the CPU.
Richard Head 😂
Richard Head - 😎
LOL
🤣🤣🤣
Oh... Man... 😂
That whining and hissing right to the center of the ear has never left my memory.
I'm playing on Windows XP and comparing it to Windows 10
th-cam.com/video/XAnJVums7ag/w-d-xo.html
Got ya dude I remember having this old Windows 3.1 desktop and it would been. All. The time
Mine still does that
I always wanted to see this on actual hardware!
Old computers fascinate me for reasons I can’t really explain. I guess it’s the historical factor, especially since digital history isn’t preserved as well as textbook history. It’s always a treat to see old tech and learn how it works.
yess
Same
Ya, sometimes it's a big wakeup call to remind myself of those days and some of the hassles we used to put up with, along with the simple things we thought were a big deal at the time.
Am on ur side I never interacted with computers from the 90s like windows 95 and windows 3.1
At first I'm like what's going on? Then it all flashed back to me. Are we going to count up to 512k, 640k, or 640k with 384k extended memory. When we hit 640k and stopped, 1985 flashed back to how many times I sat through that memory check and watched my autoexec.bat scroll by as it set up each of the systems.
These days, if my personal computer mouse goes dead or whatever, I can just grab my work mouse, plug the usb dongle in, and keep working with no delay. Changing the mouse driver back then was hell. You had to have the driver on disk. There was no real internet to download it from. And you had to hope it worked because there wasn't much information out there to figure out how to fix it. You would end up rebooting 10 times before it was all working again. That memory count took a century when you were doing all that.
Rich kids at that time be like: I have a computer which has calculator, calendar, notepad and even paint
His friends: 😯😮😨😱😵
It looks confusing but I was not born when this was around
Wonderful grammar: "be like"? Correct conjugation of verbs is very important unless you don't mind looking, well, shall we say, ......
@@kurtfrancis4621 Harvard wants to know your location
and has 1 game with it - reversi
@@kurtfrancis4621A youtube comment is different from an essay, fun fact
When programming was hardcore and used every bit of memory (no pun intended).
when booleans were actually 1 bit
@Nazar Solovei Byte = 8 bit so saying every bit works
@Nazar Solovei oooh, Thanks for the explanation
i ruined the 69 likes ur welcome
But you can store eight Boolean values in a byte and bit mask them which was done all the time.
Me: How can i upgrade this computer?
TH-cam: Change the playback speed to 2
U p g r a d e t o W i n d o w s 2 . 0
@@gergo2074 yea it works
this version is so old it's still displaying west germany on it
Well, this version was 1987 and Germany didn't reunify until the 1990s, so it would say West Germany.
@@Trev359 1989 was the reunification and the Mauerfall (berlin wall). In 1990 the GDR (DDR) dissolved.
danger bgm!
IcH bIn DeUtScH
But its running on Oracle VM Virtual Box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a very advanced machine for the era! I was working setting these up for the offices on the University of Iowa campus at this time. A Hercules card was a considerable step up from the IBM display card. The XT ran its 8088 processor at 8MHz, much faster than the original PC at 4.77. And a 40 MB HDD was a real luxury. Most had only 1 or 2 of the 360 KB FDDs. They came stock with just 64 KB RAM, but many upgraded to 256 KB. It wasn't till the AT came out about 2 years later that we saw much more than that.
Our team probably set up 2000 of these bad boys.
The Windows in this video is v1.04 of 1987, so maybe also the machine is post 1987
Go Hawks! I graduated from U of I BS in computer science 1986. I worked in Administrative Data Processing in the basement of Schaeffer Hall until1989 when I left Iowa city.
@@EarlHiggins We were there at the same time! I worked in the Weeg Magic Shop in the basement, probably 83-86. I was actually doing work-study, I was majoring in Chemistry. I later dropped out, and finished at the U of Minnesota, in Chemical Engineering.
@@michaelf7093 Ha, that's amazing. I interviewed in the spring of '86 at Weeg, sounds like I was interviewing to be your replacement? Interviewer was a woman named, I believe Chris Pruess or something like that. I didn't get the job…
Actually the XT was also 4.77 MHz. A lot of the clones were clocked at higher speeds though (thus the creation of the "turbo" button on many of them). The major deal with the XT besides more slots and memory capacity was the standard 10MB hard drive.
People in 1985: WOW THAT LOAD WAS SO FAST AND DIDN'T FEEL LIKE A YEAR AT ALL!
1985 calling. We want to know if you want to use the phone, or the computer.
Paint has the same functionality even today!
Yes
It's called just Paint, not Be Like Picasso :P
@@WTFBOOMDOOM idk dude, Ringo Starr did some pretty sweet picasso-styles in paint. Really it's all you need
jajajaa, yeahhh it doesn't changed very much from that time!!
It kind of has less, even. Well apart from colour obviously.
OMG I had this in 1988. The beep sound after the ROM reaches 640Kb brings many memories to me.
Yes, it was very cool... and I still can remember the scent of those hardware everytime we enter the computer classroom.
Me, a kid: *am I too young for this?*
kB
I'm surprised the memory test took as long as it did.
On my 512k XT clone, the memory check was slow but not this slow.
@@龗 hi Too, I am Deem
Wow, this takes me back to the beginning of my IT career! Before I even read the description I could tell a 5.25" floppy drive was in use by the sounds it makes. These were the days my friend.
Hallo das kann ich ihnen nachfühlen, mir geht es genauso, auch für mich war das der Anfang in der IT. So sehr man heute darüber lächelt, es war eine aufregende Zeit. Und bei dem Geräusch musste ich auch gleich an das 5.25 Laufwerk denken. Damals hat man noch jeden Chip persöhnlich gekannt 😀 und sich als Programmierer anhören müssen, Platz sparen um jeden Preis 😀😀😀
@@hanshase7324 next time type in english
13:20 he finally opens paint
No it's full install process, not only run
I see nothing Hercules about it
This old PC didn't even have a battery-backed clock! It still boots up thinking that it's back in 1980...
Ahhh... those were some of my best memories! 😊
Unless the battery has simply died...
Wait.. it's.. not 1980?
@@thebestspork - back at the start of the 80s you needed to specifically purchase a battery-backed clock as an add-on card for your PC. By the end of the decade they became standard, of course.
@@pauligrossinoz oh I didn't know that! Must admit I always assumed that time persistence was not a luxury. Thanks for informing me.
Is this thing even Y2k equiped? Lol
Windows 3 came out before this thing booted up
This was an initial installation I believe. Subsequent boots ought to be faster.
ROFL!
@@justinl9077 Exactly. This is the installation of the OS onto the HDD.
thats funny as hell...as gorilla.bat
dos game..lo
@techie number1 5.25 floppy drive
I had a commodore 64 on 1982. They had the best coding team on earth, later on transferred to IBM after C=64's downfall. We've experienced 16 colours gameplay, had animation and drawing apps, and much more.
Amogus? Sus?... Hmmmm yeah
@@damiancho7977 what
I am watching you
@@damiancho7977 oh shut up
Sadly I had Commodore Vic-20 (thats 20k bytes). You actually used a cassette recorder and stored your info on cassette tapes. The one good thing it had was a slot for cartridges, like an 8-track.
Computer: Press any key to continue.
User: Where's the any key.
that is a real question asked to a technical service.
Simpsons...
*pressing reset key*
Press power button.
Xd
This thing opened the memory floodgates. When I was going to school in the 80s, all you heard in computer labs, when you walked in, was the sound of all the computer cooling fans spinning at full speed. I’m surprised this thing is still functioning as it did 40 or so years ago. Amazing!!!
Back when you actually had to know something about computers to use them...
@Alladeen Mdfkr You don't get it, do you? Even something as trivial as visiting a website like Google or TH-cam would've been much more difficult back then!
@@Peter_Parker361 not least because the web didn't exist at the time.
@@Peter_Parker361 Visiting a website like TH-cam is not even "trivial", at least not "under the hood". The web structure is immensely complex today, and so are servers and browsers with all their levels, protocols, subsystems, parsers, etc. And to actually understand the advanced compression techniques used in most video formats, you actually need about two-three years worth of math studies at university level. After that we have the CPU with microcode translation, register renaming and speculative execution, the memory system with several levels of associative caches and the inner works of the dispatcher, file system and operating system in general. Most people using computers today don't have a clue about most of this. Pretty different from when the computer was still young (say in the early 40s to mid 70s, or longer, in many cases).
@@herrbonk3635 My comment is not worthy of your reply, Mr. Bönk! (;
Yeah these days everyone with a mobile device acting as if they discovered how to start fire :sigh:
Jokes aside, I find this to be really beautiful, it brings memories of my early childhood when my dad worked on PCs similar to this one
i love that read sound.. damn
It sounds like my old washer
overdoing the key strokes lol
I also like it.
😢😵
It was Scarry, because you never know when you will get media " track 0 error, disk is not usable." 😢
That feeling that a window to another world was about to open, was real!❤
Wow, brings back memories, depressing that is. I was there (85-87) worked on this thing. (One of a few "testers".) Small team (15 people max - including developers/testers/admin), worked weekends. Remember going to lake bellevue sitting on the dock at lunch in my work clothes while people were splashing in the water enjoying one of a few sunny days. Worked all thru summer and got my bonus of about $1000. When I calculated the hours it worked out to less than min wage, $2.50/hour. I felt like f this, I'd rather have paid them to enjoy my summer. Tester salary was about $18k, developer $24k. Didn't see much of Bill but Ballmer was our "cheerleader" (nice man), Chris Peters was nice too as was most everyone. Lynn Shaw (Paint dev) was cute and I had s crush on her. Gabe (lead tester, like that was anyones asperation) was a jerk as most of the testers. I rembr him sneezing all over my keyboard - messy/wet - and not having the decency to wipe it off. Or when he came by to ask me if I wanted to go with him to Seattle to pick up his new CRX (Honda) and for a fleeting moment thinking he wanted to get to know me better, until he mentioned he wanted another body so he could use the carpool lane - j-azz! (I declined.) No, I did not get stock options - most grunt level did not. The IPO was $24 and a $2k investment would have made $80k but that was before ETrade, not like us young kids had stock brokers. Always thought it said a lot about Bill and Jobs when they restricted stock. Hell, when Qualcomm went public, even the receptionist became a millionaire. Left in 87 to finish my degrees in comp-science - thru Masters (moved back home). All I had to show for it is my signed letter from Bill thanking for work on win1, my shrink wrapped copy (still have both, wonder if I should put on EBay?) and a reference on my resume - which I dropped years later because I went into SAP where the money was much better and working on windows not only dated me but was irrelevant. Surprised to see so many views of this.
Funny Gates stories...
1st xmas party I went to was spectacular. Gates was drunk and dancing like a spastic with absolutely no sense of rhythm. I pointed and laughed, he stopped and stared at me as I slinked into the crowd. A minute later, he yells at the top of his lungs "I WANT TO GET LAID!" Everyone stared in shock as some lady escorted him off the floor.
We were at the new Bellevue facility... Gates was bouncing on one of those mini one-person trampolines in his office. A "newer" office assistant, who bill was not familiar with, walked by the open door and said "be careful you dont hit your head on the ceiling". Bill replied "I can hit my head if I want to, it's my company."
I worked for MS before but way later than your time. Working within a team or teams for product like that scale is kinda fun but very stressful. Plus the time/effort put in vs the return does not match at all. I spent tons of hours and invented 4 patents in return of a 2.5 review and then sadly moved on for better future.
Thank you for sharing your experience, but why your are surprised (last comment)? It is a history for many people just on the other side of the computer. Many collect biographies, memories, and so on because it is a reminder of the time when we were young(er). If there was a book "History of MS grunt" or something like this I would definitely buy it.
This is history you never hear about, only ever hear how the big boys like gates and jobs personally invented everything and everyone else involved was irrelevant.
Hello, sir! I'm tester too working in a russian company which develops a BPM system. I can remember only Windows 95 installed on school PCs - that was the time of the first meet.
This is so amazing to face true history by luck! Could you please share your own believings from the past (about IT future) and did humankind does well or even better?
How old are you sir?
Son: mom I want a new Computer
Mom: no, we have a computer at home already
Computer at home:
I dont see nothing wrong here
The computer is working good than my Windows 7 mac
@@verycoolhuman690 windows 7 mac???
@@NoNamelolxd laptop*
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️😑😑😑
8:10 Installation Over. Enjoy the goodies
It's crazy how far we've come
These are what paved the way for anything today. This was a top of the heap PC for its day. I enjoyed learning the DOS commands and loading floppy drives. It's how we learned to appreciate all of the sweet rigs that are being built today. WE were the GUI (graphical user interface) of the day. Glad this still exists to show people how the computing world got its start. Although they had entire rooms of equipment to run simple commands before the PERSONAL computer, this was ahead of its time and outdated (like everything else today) in a few months. Good stuff!!
There are people out there who have never seen, let alone heard of a floppy drive.
A group of millienials drag a woman up to IT.
"We've found a witch may we burn her?"
"How do you know she's a witch?"
"She has this strange thing in her hand she claims is computer storage."
Lucky. The first IBM PC that I used had 64k of ram. It also had a cassette port on the back. I did run AutoCad on that, but a redraw of a drawing of any size was a call to go to lunch.
@@locutus155
"What is this object, woman"
"Why...it is a CD-ROM m'lord. It has etchings made by a burning light that reveal instructions to a machine not unlike our beloved Computer"
"Nonsense!!! This is dark magic from 'The Time Before'. Burn the witch!!!"
no important software of note was authorized first on a PC. First www server and client, NeXT. Photoshop, Excel, Word, etc. etc first written on Macs.
Lots of good games on PCs I guess.
No, not top of the heap in '85. The AT was already available and so were 286-based clones, many of which were clocked faster than the original IBM.
This takes me back. My customer was a large company which made their own microcomputers and wanted me to implement Windows on them. At the time I knew nothing about Windows but managed to get hold of the Windows 1 development kit.
It soon became clear that it wasn't going to work. The essential thing with Windows was that it worked by using BIOS functions to write to graphics memory which was automatically displayed by hardware. The microcomputer I was trying to implement it on had a graphics chip which you had to send individual commands to in order to do anything. So I patched the BIOS to write to local memory and wrote a cyclical task which sent commands to the graphics chip to update memory locations which had changed since the last time.
Sadly I found out that Microsoft had a horrible mixture of ways to write to graphics memory. Sometimes they used BIOS functions to write to the graphics memory and sometimes the software literally just wrote directly to it. On top of that of course, there simply wasn't enough processing power to do what I was trying to do. I did find a few bugs in the Widows software though. Often the functions were writing whole chunks of graphics memory although only a few bytes had changed, apparently because they had an error in the calculation of the number of bytes to transfer. If it hadn't been for Intel dramatically increasing the speeds of their processors over the years, Windows would never have made it. I remember that you could start something like 12 instances of the clock and a PC (not an XT) would freeze.
Виндовс это одна большая ошибка
Late to the game, but I fear nothing much has changed since then.
I developed a package back when, also writing to the BIOS, but used a function to do it. Thus I could adopt to changes.
Never the less, after decades of using Windows, I left for Linux.
Linux shares a lot of the weak spots of Windows, but at least, I don't pay for it.
Being a Developer myself however, I would line up the Developers of either Worlds and fire every second one of them. In both Worlds, they are absolutely lousy when it comes to error handling. Without the Internet, the kill ratio of PC's would be much higher.
Just the past few days, I wasted endless hours hunting down a problem why Thunderbird issues an error message when trying to use "share" and send a mail.
Research showed that the problem is known for nearly 12 years. No cause has been established, no solution. Works fine on one Laptop, but not the other. I tried all kinds of permissions etc to no avail. Finally de-installed and reinstalled and called the Program with the parameter to select a profile and it finally worked.
Nothing is more frustrating when one is not the common user, but tries out various things only to meet one obstetrical after another, of course all with meaningless error descriptions or none at all. You would assume that when in Linux you define a Browser in it's setup as the default one, that is it. Far from true.
There is an additional System Setting to be set. So sometimes the Browser setting is used, sometimes the System Setting. Constancy? Nope.
I still have no idea what Windows update is actually doing. It was supposed to get faster, but that is far from being the case. It gets worse every time. Of course it throws cryptic error messages at you and you look at the forums for solutions and become mentally a mass killer, cause the proposed solutions have nothing to do with the Problem.
Likewise, I am extremely skeptical when it comes to Cloud solutions. Like here on Yahoo, sometimes you see Comments, sometimes they disappear. You find them with youtubecommentsdownloader. Solution or explanation from Google? None to be found.
Sorry for the rant, but life with computers can be truly frustrating.
@@MBrieger - how boring would life be without a good rant now and again 😁
@@probablygraham Ask be about IT Job Agencies and I can write an Encyclopedia of Incompetence. 😂😂
Back in 1995 I saved the bios program from RAM to floppy. What I wanted to do was to use the Low Level Format part of the Bios as a program. Although I messed around with many parts of it, it only incremented the day number of the date by one each time the program ran. In the end, I couldn't stand it and gave up. I'm still not sure if I'm doing anything sensible. Do you think I may be close to the solution?
640 kb ram.... you definitely should install chrome
128kb kkkk
can can always download more ram
Ya mean wam
Nah. Gta 5 with uhd next gen graphics shaders
We all had computers with very low RAM and they still ran any browser quite well. The browsers from nowadays and most apps are designed to eat up a lot of unnecessary resources, just so you're forced to upgrade your PC from time to time. It's all a marketing thing.
I started my career working and supporting these machines. Still love DOS, it was so clear and easy to understand. Also upgrading to new versions was easy because you only had to focus on the new commands and features and they were very well documented as well.🙂
Those keyboard sounds, though...
I can't get enough of it
2020: wow 640 kb of ram, so "powerful"
1980: let me present the world's most powerful computer!
Nowadays we have 16 GB ram😅🤣🤣🤣
@@Ahmed.365 In the future we will have 16TB ram 😄😄🤣🤣
Internet Explorer 8 🤣 x 2020
i have 8GB ram lol i feel so powerful
I want to see the future world when computers will have 1TB of RAM, that will be amazing!!
That disk drive grind brings back so many memories.
I used to work for a company selling XT clones in 1985-1986. Boy, does this take me back to those days. The HD in the video is at least 5 years newer than the computer. We sold 5MB hard drives in those days!
61 / 5 000
Are you sure ? Even the IBM XT from 1983 could be equipped with a 10 MB Seagate ST-412. 20 MB ST-225 was aviable in 1985. 40 MB ST-251 was aviable in 1987. 5 MB ST-506 was introduced in 1980. This PC was produced in Czechoslovakia betwen years 1987 - 1990.
You sure did. My first computer had a 10 mb hdd. Which was so HUGE, it could NEVER be filled.
Notepad is still the same.
2019, 34 years later.
Reversi, too! :) (Unsure if recent Windows version even have this. But when it did, it looked the very same.)
PAINT, too ;)
and I love it for its simplicity
Notepad is simple, quick and just works for what you need.
It still doesn't handle UTF-8 by default.
this used to frighten me because it asked so many questions. I was fearful it was gonna ask something i did not have the answer for.
The Soviet Union was actually alive when this came out
I had been 6 years since then before the USSR collapsed
What does this do with you? - how do this feel for you? ☺️
@@ffgille He still scare USSR mad bears attacks :)))) Ох уж ети русские :)))
@@romansmirnov2087 No USSR anymore, Glory to Ukraine. Українці рулять )
yugoslavia too
I remember buying a copy of Windows 1.0 at my university's book/computer shop. It was merely a curiosity as I had no software to run on Windows at the time, so I played a bit with Clock and Calendar then went back to DOS and Word and resumed my productive work 🙂
2:21 Wow, it really shows the age of this thing if 'West Germany' is listed in keyboard setup
I see Made in West Germany all the time.
You can find 'Yugoslavia'
What is wrong with that? Only west Germany is exist today
@@Burgunsky Nothing wrong with it, just that West and East Germany came together way back in 1991 to form the reunified Germany we know today.
Nice observation
seems like Paint had more options back in 85 then now with Windows 10
Windows 11 should revive them
than
@@jumpyjolt7015 Microsoft said there isn’t going to be a windows 11
Which one? The actual paint or paint 3d? I actually have both on one of my Windows 10 computers.... The problem with paint 3d is that the UI is stupidly complicated (and possibly broken?) for no good reason. Paint, on the other hand, is beautifully simple but has no transparency. In most cases, regular paint is so much better.. 😂
@@peterGu895 So is it gonna be Win12?
Good old days ... Since I was 14 years old (1984), my career has started with the Commodore C64, then Commodore C128d and Commodore PC10-II. Beginning with Windows 3.0 and 3.11. First 1200bd PacketRadio (HamRadio), then 2400bd modem up to 56k mailbox, BTX and internet connection. Good old memories.
You are on my team, Sir. I was 18 years old and I started to work as programmer with my own C-64 and its datasette on 1986. I still remember the sound of the cassette being reading by that thing. Thank you for the memories.
@@ArielP11 Yes sir, memorys of C64 and Datasette. Normal, TurboTape, Turbotape II and Supertape acceleration. I've build-in some items and a green LED, to see activity on the data-line. It's legendary to wait, the program is loading. The program could be recognized by the flickering of the screen and the sounds. Sometimes the program was loaded incorrectly, then I had to go into the source code, recognize where the error was and correct it. That's how I learned to program. Legendary my first program:
10 print "Hello world"
20 goto 10
I kept building that up with a timer and free text input:
10 input a$
20 print a$
30 for i=1 to 1000
40 next i
50 goto 20
and so on... everytime a little bit more.
#metoo
Never did get into the Commodore ecosystem, tho my dad did, mostly for fun (and for packet radio). I had a 64 at one point but didn't do much with it; also inherited all Dad's C64 and VIC hw/sw/books when he went SK. Couple years ago I sold all of it at the Orlando Hamcation; made a surprising amount of money off it.
@@mrz80 Do u have a ham licence or interested in ham-radio? I'm DF2EAN Frank
Thank you for remembering how old I am. Remembering each sound from 5,25 inch floppy to harddisk positioning and the keyboard typing like it was yesterday when I was using such a PC.
🥲🥲🥲🥲, yep, but what a time.
Had my first PC in 1991 with win 3.11
And I remember my dad saying "wow, it's such a progress from windows1 !" )))
Windows 3.11 came out in '93.
@@TheUtuber999 yes, you're right.
It was a christmas present in 91.
And there was another year that I ran everything with DOS and Norton Commander before I got a copy of Win 3.11. But I definitely remember that dad had win1 at work several years before that.
This brought back alot of memories. Especially the sounds!
nostalgia at its very finest! ^^
Yeah...
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It's so cool to see this as a computer science student in 2022. I wasn't around when this PC was a thing, unlike, I guess, most people here. But it's good to see how far we've come and also to see working history on my screen. Thank you for this video!
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I like seeing how clunky Windows 1 is. I hate seeing that agonizingly-slow POST sequence.
@@jovetj I hate it too. I was like "wtf?". It's just too much RAM for that poor old bios to handle at once.
@@bytekast LOL!
Wow. This is a blast from the past. I barely remember this OS. It's amazing just how advanced the Windows OS has become since then. From 1 to 95 to 98 to NT to XP (Xtra Problems) to 7 to 8 to 10 and now Windows 11. It's really grown.
look i agree with all you're saying and i'm not one to be blinded by nostalgia but there is no way you genuinely believe windows xp is trash
@@jaycreations2k12it‘s not the best
Those old xt sounds take me back. Surprisingly relaxing
I made an autoexec.bat start up file that played the, "ta da da dat dada charge," sound. People paid me to put it on their autoexec.bat file. I wrote it in GWbasic.
@@indridcold8433 Can i get your autoexec.bat? I love to tinker with old systems on VM and trying that stuff sounds interesting..
@@rireki_riri I will find it. It was done for an MS-DOS 3.3 start disk. I will see if I can find the GWBasic programme that made the little startup tones.
@@indridcold8433 Thank you!
This brings back memories. It was such an exciting time using this tech back then.
It's really showing our ages when we remember these computers. Great video.
Yeah.. I remember.. some day, visit my uncle and first sit down on AT 286 and first 3 games.. Blockout, Prince of Persia and Wolfenstein 3D.. OMFG
Yes, you right...hmm
Are you talking about the jurassic boxes?
@@SirKolass yeah
@@SwiatLinuksa Castle Wolfenstein BEFORE the 3D . I remember it from well before 3D.
The noise of the FDD brings back memories. Been there done that, many times.
The best part of Windows 1 was definitely the quick boot up
Aye, if it only took 15 seconds nowadays !
*At least 5 Generations of Bavarian Chichillas have come and gone during this boot-up.*
*I was waiting for "Black Screen of Death" and "Windows is Restarting", then a Scream and a Pick-Axe coming out of nowhere. xD*
Idk its preety slow, maybe its good for you but my pc is much more faster and looks cooler than this shit
had plenty off to i me to go get a pizza if you could take your eyes off the screen! my freinds would unplug the meter at the back of the house just to get me outside to go ride and party.those crts were just mesmerizing
@@randymarsh8058 wtf are you talking about bakara?
remember the days when 1.44mb was counted as a huge amount of storage
MB, not mb
@@takigan this also would of been a 360k system possibly.
@@takigan MO :)
i want a 1.4mb usb stick
@@SilverBullet93GT lol
I'm 18 so i never had the chance to mess with these retro computers but they still fascinate me and even more than that, i love sounds they make, especially the hard drive sounds
fogolo i believe that was the floppy you were hearing, hdd don't make much noise.
@@johnarnold893 they do if you put your ear up to them, older ones however can make a relatively loud grinding sound, my original xbox has one such hdd, you can hear it grind from 2 meters away
@@johnarnold893 old drives were noisy
I have to admit it is fascinating to see Windows 1.0 for the first time. The first version of Windows I ever used was 3.0, and I was an elementary school kid at the time. 🖥️
Я немного работал в 3.11, но мне просто повезло. У матери на работе стоял один очень старый компьютер, совсем слабенький, памяти в нем хватало только на 3.11. Воспоминания
@@Влад-ц2ш7х Honestly, Microsoft Windows didn't feel like a legit icon-based operating system until Windows 3.1, anyway. My family had upgraded to Win 3.11 by the time the computer in my high school video production class had 3.0.
I remember how frustrated I was teaching the teacher in class. It was that big of an advancement! 😆
Imagine setting this up on hundreds of computers in an office.
I remember them very well. Today's generations have NO idea on how much things have changed.
@@kurtfrancis4621 I definitely appreciate my user friendly software today. As well admiring you pioneers of yesterday!
@Martin Dennis Lol!!! What a geek!
Been there. At least usually there was a netware network since I made the obviously wise choice to be a netware admin so I just loaded it on the server and installed from there or even just ran it from the server as some machines booted from a floppy and didn't even have a hard drive . DId that all the way up to Win 3.11.
my god do i remeber that .. i would hang myself if i had to do that .. what they have to do
yea youtube ... you recommend me this after they relaunch windows 1.0 for a reason that we don't know ..
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I started in the Computer field in 1966 with medium-sized Mainframes. I was a customer engineer. and serviced and maintained computers by soldering in individual transistors and diodes. I went through punch cards, paper tape, into the more modern mag tape and the first Hard drives. When the PC came in, we all thought it was a fun thing to play with, but it wouldn't catch on. They were too slow (like in this video). I retired 1 year ago and have been around for the latest and greatest computerized machinery.
I was there for the start of Microsoft and knew that Gates stole his MSDOS from Digital Research's DR-DOS. and borrowed Windows from XEROX. There were previous releases from Diebold, Burroughs, NCR, etc. but Gates was smart at copying and hiring smart people. I have learned so many operating systems and compilers, I had a hard time keeping them all straight. VRX, IRX, IMOS, NEAT 3, MSDOS, Windows 3.1 to Windows 10, UNIX, and proprietary versions of UNIX. I learned Binary, Base 4, Base 8, decimal, Hexadecimal. When my kids had to learn "New Math" I showed them how it works.
Kids today don't know how easy they are going to have it. Everything today runs Windows 10 or Apple, with an occasional UNIX or LINUX, and they only have to know Decimal. Hardware is all modular, and the computer installs itself. They will never know the satisfaction of building their own computer or knowing the difference between an AND Gate and an OR Gate, and they won't know what a monostable multivibrator is or a flip/flop. (no, it's not kinky.)
In a similar vein Jim, my first computer was a Varian. Loaded up the operating system, programming language and program into memory using binary switches on the front panel to load into different memory locations. I learnt 6502, Fortran, BASIC, Pascal and C. Getting a hard disc with 2TB of memory or a micro SD card with 128GB just blows my mind!
Ah, but you probably weren't there when they used valves instead of transistors... none of that new fangled stuff. And Charles Babbage would probably have looked at your era and said " You dond know how lucky you are! In my day, we had to make every cog out of brass and wind it all by hand!" 😉
@@another3997 --- Valves? Ee, luxury! In my day we used an abacus! But I did use a Curta!
@@grumpy23240 ABACUS?! In MY day we used twigs and rocks!
whats that
pun intended
I love these pcs
The paint program was so ahead of it's time the icons have barely changed lol
I can smell it. It was one of the best experiences of my life. I really love computers.
I too
Is this what people did with computers back then?
Open calculator... 3+3=6.....check
Open calendar.....today is monday.....check
Open clock.....its 11 o clock......check
Open paint.......make random shapes and lines........check..
End windows session
Later that day,
"Hey Bill, what did you do today?"
"Oh i did some very important work on my COMPUTER"
"...oh wow... that does sound very important"
Bill:
:)
Ikr?
Kkkkj.
,😁😆😆
haha love your comment! greetings from germany, I was working today also very important stuff on my computer. :D :) (the performance and software changes, but still killing a lot of time with it)
YEP! I set up hundreds of these old machines.
Hearing that floppy drive brought a big smile to my face! The memories it brings back.
A trip down memory lane, and appreciating all the more what hardware and software designers had to do in those days just to achieve this output. Much of these processes and settings remain the core of Windows, and yet they are now only a small portion of a mammoth environment and in a smaller box. Thanks for putting this up!
This is life. Where everything goes from small to big.. Nothing surprising :-)
@7:30 - I really do miss that floppy drive sound. Brings back memories of how computers used to be
I really don't. It freaked me out when I was a kid
Desmond McCarter the floppy sounds are scary! Also we don’t use floppy anymore! We don’t even use dvd on most computers anymore!
I remember when computers used punch cards and reel to reel tape, lol.
Le Docteur Floppies can be really evil th-cam.com/video/LdgzsF_O7oI/w-d-xo.html
@@Articbear thank God you're here to narrate present day life. Here we all were, oblivious to our surroundings. Could you also tell us what year it is and what planet we live on?
“ it is now safe to turn off your computer”
...not until 1995
More like: it is now safe to turn on your computer
XD
At power
You had to switch power off manually, let's say like on the power cord. It wasn't able to turn off by software.
ACPI wasn't a thing back then
Brings back great memories. Tnx for sharing!
1985:computers big
2020: *laptop*
2020: and PCs Gamers
laptops were even in 1983 but they were big
It’s quite amazing how far we gotten with technology
i remember all that so well...ahh the good old days. i am 61 btw
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William Ball Are you experienced with programming and the computer evolution then?
If so, did you enjoy it? The programming ? And what were you doing exactly?
Else, tell me more about your experience with computers
@@aster1222 youre telling a lot of questions :D Me, for myself, have been programming with Basic when I was a child. Made some funny little games for retarded(I hope thats the right word) kids. It was a good feeling, hence programming with Power Basic was oldschool. There was also Visual Basic which I wasnt interested in because of the visual surface to work with. :b I, somehow, liked the command-line surface of basic. The computers back then were slow as sh t but yeah: "Good old days!". There comes a lot of nostalgia seeing this old computer.
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Thank goodness for this video in case I ever need to start one of these.
Ah, good times... When the sound of a PC was as loud as an old vacuumcleaner!
Forward 10years I also like the crazy sounds of 56k US Robotics modem when trying to connect to internet ^_^
@@d3vilman69 My first modem was 110 baud - still shuddering to think of that one
mine still kind of is :/
I still hear it every day. The joy of tinnitus 🤣
umm yea most computers that are used for any heavy lifting (not just browsing the internet or movies) are usually as loud , if not louder. even a full on water cooled system can be loud under heavy load....
Thanks for posting this video since it really takes me back... The sound so the Seagate HD spinning up and homing the heads, the memory check, the floppy drive heads moving... even the glimpse back to Norton Commander loading. It's amazing to think I grew up in an era where this tech was just blooming and now there's so many fields and in-depth technologies that have evolved, I could have spent 24/7/365 and still not have been able to keep up with all the developements and evolutions over time. Cool vid! Thx!
I don't think I could ever get over seeing an ancient system still operational. There are actually many computers that last for many more years than expected. It's simply their ability to be able to keep up with technology. IE. to be fast enough, to have enough Hard drive space, or enough memory or fast enough memory. I've still got my first second hand computer which is a Compaq 486DX2 66Mhz with an orange monochrome monitor. I think originally it only had a 50Mb HD which I upgraded to a 250Mb HD. It's original OS was MS dos 6.22, then Windows 3.1 and finally Windows 95
Great work
masterpiece
You have old hardware still work.
And windows 1 floppy are still working great
I miss the impossible choice: Retry, Abort, Ignore.
Me too
And Ignore would usually make it work... :)
ALWAYS Ignore!
Ignore, stupid Windows should work even without some missing files.
Retry abort fail
Be careful not to start World War III with that thing..
How would that computer start World War III?
@@ImmortalGangsta2004 Cause it is very old and rare and every pc enthusiast wants to get it
@@ImmortalGangsta2004 Nuclear codes are stored on floppy discs.
@@10.11.9 )*_*(
@@ImmortalGangsta2004
Would you like to play a game?
Oh my goodness...this brought me sooooo many memories.
For some minutes, I felt back home :-)
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could you imagine typing on a clunky typewriter, with no back space, having to start all the way over if you made an error and then seeing this? wow!
wish you would do a video showcasing all the cool programs of the time, like microsoft flight sim, maybe some specialized technical programs for businesses etc
0:48 - 640KB is enough, who would want to wait longer?
I think that's the RAM amount.
Imagine if you had 32GB ;-)
Listening to the whirrrr of the disk drives brings back good memories. Amazing how long and complicated it was to set up a PC.
no shit i got a 286 (iykwim)
Defrag used to put me to sleep, it was just so relaxing listening to the chittering of random reads.
I really love that disk reading sound. jing~jin~kkk...kk..JJING!!
Oh, the good old days! My very first job was with a company in Walton-on-Thames that built IBM XT/AT compatible clones. This does brings back some great memories of the early days of PC's. Thanks for the great video.
Imagine bringing a windows 10 computer back to 1984
Uh oh
people would be amazed at the techonology then look at the hardware specification and wonder just why windows and software is SO freaking slow and bug ridden when it technically should be instant for everything due to the hardware.....
The Win10 would be crashed without it's daily updates :)
@@fpepefpepe3167 Daily Dose Of -Internet- Updates
@@ukdashcamguy500 This computer easily not run the Windows 10. Imagine someone viewing the modern PC with Windows 10 and the owner of this computer asking how to connect to the internet...lol
Yet it's much faster than Windows 10
@666 bit you missed the joke
The because it's not busy sending personal information and downloading all those adds.
@@stevebailey5598 you nailed it LOL!
@Ralf Wolters LOL
Window10 booting is 23second