Notice he aims a good majority of that speech at Simm’s Master, knowing that he’s planting a seed and that by the time he becomes Missy they will have had a whole lifetime to think about that
The words of which are something the doctor has spent decades thinking about himself. Decades wondering whether he's truly good, to form himself into a man with a genuine duty to kindness. He wouldn't have been able to make this speech at the end of S9, because he wouldn't have believed it himself.
@@jordan3400 As stated in this episode (Missy having the spare part for the Master's TARDIS) and TDOTD (The Curator telling 11 what to do next) as well as 10 teaching 5 how to fix the TARDIS in the CiN special, they do remember the messages and lessons of their time-crossed adventures, just not the visuals or any of the specifics. So Missy would remember the general idea of the Doctor's speech here, even if she doesn't know where she heard it or who said it.
@@foxwhitemore3931 plus that embrace… she knows what is about to happen and he doesn’t. It has to be this way for so many reasons but the doctor has at last gotten through to her. She wants to stay but can’t
the master actually knows what the doctor is doing, that's why he's trying to direct the doctor's attention to his face, the one that's not caring, while his other face is considering it. as if to make sure he knows there's no chance that he'll care
@@pancon9947 it wasn't a mistake. the Doctor planted the seeds in the Simms master knowing full well that by Missy's time they would make much, much more sense
He was absolutely a good Doctor. He had some amazing dramatic moments. It was his silly moments that felt too overdone. The writing for a lot of the episodes in series 8 and 10 weren't good either. Series 9 and the end of series 10 was really where he got to show off as The Doctor he was.
You also look back on this scene and realise how good John Simm was as the master, he took the part and made it his own whilst acknowledging what came before him!
Although, judging by the ending to THIS story, that's what we're gonna end up with. She can't regenerate and received a fatal wound, bring back the spooky scary skeleton!
@@LukasOfTheLight I'll respectfully disagree but each to their own. RTD era is my favourite but I'm really enjoying the current series (minus orphan 55)
@@mbyrne1212 I disagree i loved the 11th through to the 12th doctor. The river storyline, twist, silence, not all but most of the episodes we're written with intellect were the doctor had to give a smart solution and you didn't know what he would do. The 12th doctor series wasn't perfect but i still sat down the day each episode aired and enjoyed it and still look back fondly on it. Now we have the trash ass 13th doctor, people like you wanted a new writer and now we do. Bet you didn't want that, be careful what you ask for. They've ruined doctor who the point i stopped watched after jodies first episode and can no longer watch previous doctors cause i know where the story will end up going. I don't get the people who complain about moffat he wasn't perfect but to me he was damn near close. RIP Doctor Who, you were one of the unexpected best series i've ever watched.
I don't quite believe The Master when he said he didn't listen. Look at his face. He knows and understands, he just hasn't reached the point in his life where he can admit it to himself
@Charlie Bateman I think that's the point. The Doctor wasn't speaking to the Master with the intent of convincing him then. He was instead giving Missy a very, very long time to think about what was said. Much like starting the calculations to save Gallifrey a very long time ago.
Agreed. I dont know how many more Regenerations it will take him to reach Missy, for the sake of the character i hope it's a few. hell i half hope Ms. Gomez makes a return because she was bloody brilliant in the role but honestly? it was well within Simm's version of the Master to side with the Doctor. he already did in The End of Time when they saved each other from the return of Galifrey but i guess its different when death is certain as opposed to merely likely.
If you imagine that the Doctor didn't recover at the end of the episode, this would make for a very good finale for the entire series. The Doctor falling where he's always stood, and the Master finally being redeemed.
I mean, as far as I'm concerned, until Chibnal drags his sorry arse out of the writing room, this is the finale. Series 11 and 12 did not happen. Sad for Whittaker though, I'd really love to see what she can do when given a good story to work with.
I legit feel when time passes by history is gonna be kind to Peter Capaldi’s Doctor. He’s already seen as one of the greats but I really think he’ll be in contention for GOAT status. For me he already is.
Don't need time to pass, he's by far my favorite new who doctor. Tennant was always the best before but Capaldis speeches are SO goddamn chilling. Especially compared to the new morally broken doctor haha Cut to 13th siccing Nazis on the master when they're a minority "let them see the real you" when they'd already won.. I think Jodie could have been an awesome doctor but the writing let her down
I think some of the newer fans that didn't like him because they were so used to the 'Hot' good looking doctor before him. I notice their usually a real noticeable different in option between old fans and new fans of the show in regards to Capaldi.
@@Underworlddream I can see what you mean, but it never seemed like a good enough reason for me. I know Capaldi isn’t young but I think he’s actually a pretty attractive guy. It’s an unpopular opinion but I never got why fan girls lost it over Matt Smith. He’s young but I don’t think he’s a handsome guy at all. Not even in an untraditional or unique way. I can buy Tennant being a sex symbol. However, both doctors were heavily romanticized by the media so I digress.
She did what she did, betraying her old self, so she would be who she is now. To at least give herself a chance. Sometimes you have to kill who you were to be who you are.
And.. Going to series 12. The doctor still doesn’t know, the master was going to help. And, It seems like nothing has changed. Personally, I think something happened to Missy, somehow she lived and learnt about the timeless child. And.. went insane. The master reborn again.
This sums up Peter's Doctor so well. To me, he is the ultimate incarnation of the Doctor. He is alien and strange, young and old, flawed and perfect. He embodies everything the Doctor has ever been and still brings across his own style. This speech was written for HIM, like Heaven Sent, there are only a few Doctors who could have articulated a speech like this so well with no music, and he's one of them.
i couldn't see 10 or 11 being able to do it. 9 maybe, as for classic who, i haven't had the time to watch yet but i've got all of summer now so i'll try and get through it.
He still sucks in Season 8. Like... I really like Capaldi's Doctor overall, but even after I had gotten past the "he's new, I don't like him" stage, I still don't like him when I go back to watch season 8. He's really just an asshole most of the time in those episodes and the Doctor from season 8 to season 9 was quite a personality shift.
Abigail Archer-Addams well that’s the point it shows just how much he developed from not knowing who exactly he was at the time and he was still vulnerable mentally and physically trying to hang on to himself. To me he’s perhaps the only Doctor to have such a developed characterization out of the rest which he why I loved him so much and I agree he was an ass in series 8 but rewatching his entire run and seeing how his character grow makes me appreciate series 8 Twelve even more.
12 was Stern like the 1st, Goofy like the 2nd, Active like the 3rd, Unpredictable like the 4th, Kind like the 5th, Vain like the 6th, Cunning like the 7th, Gentle like the 8th, Fierce like the War, Angry like the 9th, Lonely like the 10th, Silly like the 11th. He is the Doctor.
Trazmaball Gyster Myster she has no character and is painful to watch. The BBC just can’t admit they buggered it. So I don’t accept it. If I did make that clear already 😂
Trazmaball Gyster Myster I completely agree, Jodie is a great actress and I loved her in broadchurch. I just think she looked at the script and was as impressed as we are 😂😂. U can see it in her performance.
Performances aside, my favourite thing about this scene is the lack of music. That’s no dig at Murray Gold, his music in this finale was amazing, and it was also his decision not to have any music over this scene. But it works, it really works. The focus is absolutely on the Doctor, he’s not being heroic or showing off, he’s just asking his friend for help and desperately trying to find the good in them; and Peter Capaldi delivers an outstanding performance. Credit to John Simm and Michelle Gomez for their work on this finale as well. Michelle in particular has been a huge part of the Twelfth Doctor’s era, and her arc was wrapped up beautifully in this episode. The Doctor Falls may have lacked the creeping horror elements of World Enough and Time, but its focus on the main characters more than made up for it. I loved it!
Absolutely. And it is remarkable, a true testament of Peter Capaldi's skill that he can pull off such an emotive speech without the additional music - I know part of what makes his "man that stops the monsters" stand out to me is Twelve's theme supporting. But here? No non-diegetic sound at all, and I prefer this speech over that one. Not even quiet, gentle music, like Four Knocks, and yet it's still possibly even more powerful.
Sarosenna I really like Flatline, and the Twelfth Doctor’s theme, but I’m not too keen on the speech at the end. For me it’s trying a bit too hard to be a defining “I’m the Doctor” moment and it doesn’t quite land. That’s why I much prefer this one. It’s just letting the actors carry a significant moment in the story, and it works really well. Music has always been a key part of Doctor Who, but it’s knowing when there shouldn’t be any that’s just as important as knowing when there should.
I entirely agree, doctor who has an amazing soundtrack that complements the emotion perfectly and part of that is knowing where to have silence, which is a skill not many shows and films have
My thoughts exactly. And I think the reason why a couple past season finales by Moffat (The Big Bang, The Wedding of River Song) failed was because they tried to resolve a grand spectacle-y event and just ended up being deus ex machina, whereas The Doctor Falls used the plotlines set up in World Enough and Time to create an emotional character-driven story instead. That's why it's my personal favorite Moffat finale imo
Capaldi was the most complete version of the doctor ever. He was harsh and kind and true. He had to find himself, then he had to heal all of ego, and then heal his own
I feel like this means so much if you take into account how he originally was angry and kinda a jerk over time he’s learned how to be kind what he says in this speech isn’t stuff he’s always known it’s stuff he had to learn and now he’s trying his best to make the master/missy learn it to
This is why Twelve's characterisation was good. In season 8 he questioned wether he is a good man or not, but at the end, it didn't matter anymore, because he now only cares that wether what he did is kind. It's all about kindness in the end.
I know this is an old comment but for those in future reading this comment and reply, the turning point was the "idiot with a box" speech. Twelve ended up being fantastic. Such a character arc.
Kindness is a nice idea, but it gets you nowhere in real life. I spent a lifetime being kind to others and still everyone treated me like something they had stepped on, for Jo reason at all except for the fact that they believed themselves better than me So, I stand with the Master. Exploit the world for your own benefit at the expense of others because they would show you the same in the same circumstances
@@SamuelBlack84 "Kindness is a nice idea, but it gets you nowhere in real life... Exploit the world for your own benefit at the expense of others because they would show you the same in the same circumstances" - If kindness doesn't resonate with you and who you truly are, maybe that's not for you. The worlds full of people with many ugly and beautiful diverse thoughts. Be warned though, you will find quick company with paranoia with the framework you mention as history has shown with dominators, oppressors and tyrants often find themselves intimate with. And the schemes you may play to continue that power struggle of control very probably will lead you to lose track of all the complex weavings just to keep away the other vampires and monsters in the court you dine from projecting the very thing you did to take your "crown". Jesters are a funny thing. Court jester often made a mockery of "kings" as was often shown in the medieval days. Reminding those in power of humility.
@@SamuelBlack84 Then what you were doing was not being kind for kindness sake, but either for people to like you or respect you. Yours were always polluted.
@@JeffCJY I was raised to be kind to people then they would respond in kind, but that madness is over now and I can see the truth of the rewards of exploitation and manipulation for your own benefits. It's the natural side of humanity that they pathetically struggle to ignore while it gnaws at them from the inside, struggling to escape
I prefer to think otherwise, it makes her turning to side with him that much more impactful, she truly embodies the doctor for that brief moment, good without witness or reward
I feel like Tennant’s and Smith’s speeches were often elevated and made much better by a swell of orchestral music, whereas Capaldi’s are most effective in dead silence, he has that power behind his words 😍
This is the speech that got me into doctor who. We had to do monologues in drama class and a kid did this one (beautifully by the way, he did amazing!) and after I asked what it was from and I decided that if a sci fi show could be that deep I wanted in desperately.
One of the saddest moments of the revived series is that the Doctor never finds out that he was right about Missy. At the end of it all, he was right. She changed. She changed. Without hope. Without witness. Without reward. She did what was right.
@@myrixica4222 calling it right now, the next show runner will retcon everything chibnal did, the timeless child, the masters new incarnation (at least where it is in the list of regenerations), all of it, Whittaker was a great doctor, the stories were well made, they were all just ruined by chibnals writing, he probably should’ve just stuck with broadchurch.
See this face? This is the face that didn't listen to a word you just said." Oh Master of all people you should know this one thing better than anyone else... you have ALWAYS been two faced...
Younger Master said he didn't listen to a word.... Missy remembers the names of everyone she ever killed without even knowing it... I'm not saying I'm just saying
John Simm manages to capture The Master’s personality perfectly. The man who refuses to regenerate out of spite. Even in the Moffat era, he still got it 👏
Yeah, like, the 9th doctor would have fought because of the guilt that would haunt him if he didn't. The 10th doctor would have done it out of his god complex and his need to not just try, but SAVE EVERYONE. The 11th doctor would have helped because it would be too painful for him to watch the disaster if he just stays there doing nothing. The 12th doctor fought not because a sense of duty or something like that. He did it just because it was the right thing to do.
Michelle Gomez says so much without a single word. You know she's changed her mind listening to the Doctor. That little glance, the sorrow in her eye, because she knows what her old self is about to say, and she actually feels shame.
I love this scene so much This scene got everything right about the Doctor's chatacter and everything about the Master's character . Peter Capaldi gave his best performence in this scene . This scene also connected the story arc with the vault and Missy becoming good . This scene this speech will go down as one of the best of Doctor Who's history
Capaldi is acting his Whovian heart out in this scene. He grew up watching the Master-Doctor dynamic, and this is his way of trying to get it right. Having watched so many Doctors fail to make The Master listen, this is his time. I love 12, such a great Doctor
God this finale was just spectacular in every way. The acting in particular was phenomenal. Peter Capaldi and Michelle Gomez had the biggest chemistry of a Doctor and Master ever written, it was so interesting to delve deeper into their relationship. Will miss both of them!
“No! No! When I say no, you turn back around! Hey! I'm going to be dead in a few hours, so before I go, let's have this out, you and me, once and for all. Winning? Is that what you think it's about? I'm not trying to win. I'm not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because, because I want to blame someone. It's not because it's fun and God knows it's not because it's easy. It's not even because it works, because it hardly ever does. I do what I do, because it's right! Because it's decent! And above all, it's kind. It's just that. Just kind. If I run away today, good people will die. If I stand and fight, some of them might live. Maybe not many, maybe not for long. Hey, you know, maybe there's no point in any of this at all, but it's the best I can do, so I'm going to do it. And I will stand here doing it till it kills me. You're going to die too, some day. How will that be? Have you thought about it? What would you die for? Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand, is where I fall. Stand with me. These people are terrified. Maybe we can help, a little. Why not, just at the end, just be kind?”
You know, everyone keeps saying that the Doctor never knew that Missy had stood with him but, if you notice the bit when Missy grabs the Doctor's hand and says "But thanks for trying," I do believe she's got the knife in her hand and is subtly communicating to the Doctor what she's about to do! Just thought I'd say that as not many people seem to have noticed.
I also think the Doctor may have transferred some regeneration energy to her because I think he knew that the Master would kill her the only way I can see her surviving if they choose to bring her back.
Upon rewatch, they reeeeeally better make sure Sacha-Master is an iteration between Simm and Gomez, because if the Master really did just go right back to Simm-style mania after this powerful of a scene, I will never forgive Chibnall.
I fully expected that to happen with the Post-Missy incarnation honestly, Chibnall or not. Simm's Master basically makes sure the good in him dies with Missy; knowing full well they'll continue somehow but with the Doctor's influence gone. Moffat did that a fair amount where he teased big changes but in the end didn't rock the boat too much ( Davros almost getting redeemed, The Doctor briefly conquering Gallifrey before just leaving again and back to a strained relationship, Clara dying but not dying, Bill dying but not dying, etc ). The scenes involved in all of what I just described including this were great and very powerful, but still. It was clearly never intended for The Master to truly be redeemed; only to tragically show how close Missy came to change.
@@spaceboomer564 I mean, in this case, she *did* bite the dust, on-screen. The Saxon-Master coming back made some degree of sense because of Day of the Doctor, I don't think there's really a similar out here.
I don't think Doctor Who will ever have a true 'series finale' as perfect as this two-parter. Twelve's character arc through the last 3 seasons, Missy's self-realization, all of it was flawless.
@@DigitalCrateIt wasn’t that Moffat necessarily bent to *Chibnall’s* will. The BBC did. Chibnall didn’t want to introduce Jodi in a Christmas special and the BBC said if Doctor Who didn’t have a Christmas special they’d lose their *extremely* exclusive December 25th broadcast slot. So Moffat and his team caved, sacrificing the greatest regeneration story of all time in order to keep the slot. Which Chibnall threw away anyway when he changed to New Year’s specials. What a waste.
“See this face? Take a good... long... look. at this face!” “This is the face, of someone who didn’t listen to a word you just said!” The most cold hearted thing the Master has ever said to the Doctor!
Capaldi is under-rated. I just feel lucky we got 3 seasons with him at all. This scene is all I ever want out of a Doctor. Doing the right thing even when doing the wrong thing is easier.
This episode is the greatest Doctor Who episode ever made. Everything about it is a celebration of who the Doctor is, who Peter Capaldi's Doctor is, who Steven Moffat's Doctor is. This speech is powerful because the Twelfth Doctor wasn't a funny trickster like the Second Doctor. He has come a long way from the scary monster of series 8 and the arrogant superhero of series 9. This is the guy who staged a coup on Gallifrey, threatened to kill Ashildr. When you see a guy like him say things like it is okay to not win for a change, why not just be kind?, you see the change in his character is the very change this show tries to pass on to its viewers. Peter Capaldi may not be your Doctor, Steven Moffat may or may not be your favorite writer, but it is LITERALLY impossible to say there has ever been such an apt and powerful description of the show in a single scene.
"but it is LITERALLY impossible to say there has ever been such an apt and powerful description of the show in a single scene" Haha, Moffat topped this scene in the very next episode he wrote (his final episode): DOCTOR 1: There is good and there is evil. I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some kind of logic? Some mysterious force? BILL: Perhaps there's just a bloke. DOCTOR 1: A bloke? BILL: Yeah. Perhaps there's just some bloke, wandering around, putting everything right when it goes wrong. DOCTOR 1: Well, that would be a nice story, wouldn't it? BILL: That would be the best. DOCTOR 1: But the real world is not a fairy tale. BILL: You dash around the universe trying to figure out what's holding it all together, and you really, really don't know? DOCTOR 1: You know me in the future. Do I ever understand? BILL: No. I really don't think you do. Everyone who's ever met you does. You're amazing, Doctor. (hugs him) Never forget that. Never, ever.
Cant wait to read all the comments by the people who stopped watching when Capaldi became the doctor. Hopefully this video shows them that his era was actually *spectacular,* in the words of the Master.
THEVALEYARD I loved the way he started then he grew so knowledgeable as time grew on. I'm waiting to see the comments of people who stopped watching because of the female doctor
I loved the entirety of his era. It frustrates me that a couple of my friends irl who used to watch Doctor Who stopped when he was cast. He was an excellent doctor, and the scripts weren't as bad as some people say they were.
Sure, some scripts we godawful, but even they had some excellent gem scenes in them! The majority of his episodes were amazing, and I would seriously suggest his era to anybody who has not watched them for whatever reason.
The speech on war from the Zygon Invasion episode leaves me speechless every time I watch it. Almost every time Capaldi would make a speech, it ended up being one of his best scenes. He's a very emotional actor and that can be seen in many roles he's played throughout his career. One of my favorites was his role in Torchwood.
Absolutely *stunning.* Peter Capaldi was an extraordinary Doctor and we were so lucky to have such an incredible actor playing the Twelfth Doctor. I wouldn’t swap a second of his tenure.
I’ve met Peter at a comic con and told that his Doctor hit the most with me for being the most complete incarnation with a dash of every previous Doctor before him. Amazingly fantastic.
I think one of my favourite things about Twelve is that in the future, if they decide to bring him back for a multi-Doctor special, you could pick Series 8 Twelve, Series 9 Twelve, or Series 10 Twelve, and essentially end up with a totally different character and episode. He progresses and grows so much as a character and as an incarnation of the Doctor, it's seriously impressive. Seriously amazing work from both Moffat and Capaldi.
To be honest, there's very little connection between his three Doctors. I wanna see why (as a character) he wanted to become a university lecturer. In terms of narrative, I get it, but there's no motivation in character. But I do love 12 all the same. My favourite Doctor.
@@nightowl8477 Yeah not only was Clara a teacher. But he was watching over Missy for 70 years and when a school house was being built right where the chamber was he was probably like "why not?" After all he's "nothing without an audience" (HeavenSent).
Whenever I am going through a hard time and questioning whether what I do makes a difference, this speech comes to mind. It gives me strength and inspiration.
this is where I prefer Moffat to RTD, RTD had a way more consistent run but Moffat has really changed my life, from: "fear doesn't have to make you cruel or cowardly, fear can make you kind" to "without hope, without witness, without reward" his era is filled to the brim with quotes that help me see what to stand for especially when the road ahead is foggy.
@@isaacwright8211 I agree with you, Moffatt’s stories in the end were life changing and motivating. That’s what separates any piece of art, wether or not the audience can take something away into their life or wether it stays within the art. That’s how I measure a good story.
You can keep your Tennants and your Bakers, Capaldi is _my_ Doctor. And this scene is one of the many reasons why. Absolutely incredible speeches, every single time.
This scene was absolutely heart breaking on first watch. Smith’s Doctor is my favorite, and Tennant will always have a special place in my heart, but Capaldi brought me to the edge of tears with this scene. He knows he wont make it out alive. He knows he is destined to fail. He’s just trying to hold together what few lives are left. And he’s pleading for help and he’s not getting it. This hurts. Brilliant. But absolutely crushing.
I also like the little reference implied in telling the Saxon Master that it's "not about winning". You really buy that 12 and Missy are sort of older, more tired versions of the ppl we once saw confront each other in series 3
I love how Missy nearly stops walking when the Doctor screams "No" for the first time. This is really beautiful scene which shows that Missy had really changed, but due to the bad influence from her past version she couldn't fully fight herself. Also in this scene we can see that she nearly started crying when the speech ended. Damn, I love the Series 10 finale, it was so emotional
This. This is one of the reasons why the Doctor as a character is my favorite character of all time, in any story, in any medium. His intentions when he defends the world/other planets (and even the entire universe on some occasions) is so pure. He’s not vengeful, not hateful, and he doesn’t win just for the sake of winning, his intentions is that he’s kind. He believes that everyone in the entire universe is special and worth protecting (or at least the ones who aren’t Daleks or Cybermen). He (or she) has always believed that, no matter the incarnation, no matter how angry he/she gets. I am so, so glad to be a whovian so I can enjoy the character so much.
Anyone else get a feeling when Missy grabbed the Doctor's hand, it was for that psychic link so he would know she was being sincere, not sarcastic, when she thanked him?
12 - “if I run away today, good people will die. If I stand and fight some of them might live. Maybe not all and maybe not for long..” 13 - “literally runs away and let’s a random dude die for her because reasons?”
you mean at the end of s12? The old man came to save her yes but also to redeem himself as he felt guilty of the whole situation with the cybermen. Even if yeah, it s bad written and the 13 ran away, but since she realises there s more to know about herself maybe that redefines the doctor.
@@yaunadia33 1) The Cybermen threat was 200% 13’s fault. Jack literally warned her (and his own appearance in the series was worthless I guess; idk why they made him show up if he wasn’t going to do anything until the special) “hey don’t give the lone cyberman what he wants”. The lone cyberman shows up and after a couple of threats she just immediately gives him what he wants. Which directly leads to everything going to shit in the future. The Master is HER best friend and went insane because he learned a part of her was in him. Just to clear this is ALL terrible writing, but even in the terrible writing it was more 13’s fault than anyone else’s. What was the old guy’s other option? Leave the cyberium in the future (well his present) so the cybermen could wipe them all out even faster? He lost his team and nearly died for hope. Hell, in the finale he was basically the one saving the day with his bombs, weapons, plans, and supplies. He was more useful and quick thinking than 13 was all series. 2) the bigger issue that the random old dude showed up instead of ANY OF THE COMPANIONS. Literally every other series makes a big point about how the Doctor needs companions to stop them from going to far or making a bad decision or to force them to do something really crazy and out of the box that saves everyone. Series 12? Well they are all just so poorly written and without any character or relationships that all takes is an “I have to” for everyone to completely give up. I think even Chibnall realized he did such a bad job establishing their character (he didn’t at all) and building a relationship between them and the Doctor that he just gave up and passed the job to the first likable character he found. 3) The episode itself literally makes a whole conversation just to point out that the whole “timeless child” thing changes nothing. Literally, Ruth and The Doctor talk and say something like: “Does it matter? Does it change anything?”; “yes it’s my past it totally matter”; “does it really?”; “Yeah I guess not. It just means there are more of us or something. We’re still the same person”. I don’t think you understand the depth of just how bad series 12 and that finale was. Chibnall literally wrote a continuity changing revelation that makes a point of saying “this basically changes nothing”. And it doesn’t change anything. The timelords have ALWAYS been corrupt. The show makes a point of that with the trial of a timelord (CLASSIC WHO), The End of Time, Heaven Sent, Hell Bent, the entire freaking time war, and hell the entire universe was ready to blow up a planet because no one likes them (and that’s just a drop in the bucket; other media (which I only know “of”) goes into detail about their corrupt and bloody history and other time wars they’ve raged). Chibnall screwed himself over by introducing Ruth as “this is basically still the Doctor”. It COULD have changed stuff if Ruth called herself something other than the Doctor, wasn’t traveling in THE SAME TARDIS (like how?!), and had a different agenda, but she and the Doctor were still the same person (that would have been mind blowing in suggesting there could he any number of distinctly different “Doctors” doing any number of things around the universe). Gallifrey being destroyed again changes nothing because the Doctor’s already been through that character development (like as early as series 1). The Master being evil again just devolved his character. All Chibnall did was ruin the Doctor’s origins/character (he took the “failure that became a God through effort and individualism” and turned it into “she was just always special” (which admittedly was something they tried when the show was waning (that the Doctor was the reincarnation of Omega or something like that), but I mean there’s a reason the show was dying when they were trying that. This is like the worst example of NOT learning from history)). And introduced a tons of plot holes. 4) Just personally I’m pissed she didn’t do something silly like reverse the polarity to turn the life disintegration bomb into a life bringing bomb. That type of silly, last minute save the day out of nowhere shit IS Doctor Who and it would have been the first good who moment 13, but nope (I guess it’s hard with no companions worth a damn to convince the Doctor NOT to do the wrong thing).
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 I mean he could have still INSTANTLY ordered for the old man to get shot and stop her from getting saved from having to do it herself (and he just wanted HER to kill them both). The entire thing was stupid (then again the bar wasn’t set high when in the same episode you had the entire group randomly get onto a ship swarming with cybermen, arm bombs, successfully run away through long straight corridors and get off the HUGE ship in the very short time they had when the bombs “accidentally” armed, and had cybermen shooting like storm troopers (with no defenses in their own ship (like not even the ability to lock a door apparently)).
@@vullord666 ok so for the first part the master isn't evil he's just a bitch this is how he's been written all new who he wanted to know where the conversation was going that why he didn't kill them
This is a real superhero. Someone who is exceptional because they fight for kindness and decency; not out of hatred or a desire to beat someone but just cuz its right. It’s actually something I’ve found missing from much of the superhero genre, especially the MCU-with the exception of the solo Spider-Man movies. A real superhero is not fighting the bad guy to beat the bad guy, he (or she) is just trying to protect people. A real hero doesn’t seek out conflict, instead focusing on the people affected and making sure they’re safe. Defense, not offense.
Calpaldi was the best doctor. I love Matt Smith for his exciting and fun portrayal of the doctor, but capaldi’s character gave us an example of the philosophy of the doctor and that was way more compelling
What I also love about this speech is how it calls back to Clara in season 9: "She died for who she was and who she loved - she fell where she stood and it was sad, it was beautiful..." - Ashildr "Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall" - The Doctor
numpteez to be fair, I think Moffat flumped most of his finales in both doctors cases. Out of the ones he wrote, I think only series 5 and 10’s finales are what I’d call great. 6’s was horrendous, 7 was ok, 8’s was meh and 9’s was asinine (heaven sent was amazing, but destroyed by the toxic spill of hell bent). Plus with regard to Tennant, the show kind of peaked in terms of pop culture and there was much more of a casual audience for the series back then as well as whovians. The general public appreciation for the show seems to have severely dipped in recent years.
numpteez You only hear people complain about the Capaldi finales because they are so recent (in comparison to Series 3 over a decade ago which I do see people complain about). In general though I agree with your opinions on every finale.
numpteez agreed, 1 and 2 are fab. Easily the best of RTD. I think 3 is actually not as bad as everyone says it is, but that mainly comes down to the set up in utopia and sound of drums - I can admit that last of the time lords is quite a mess even if I still enjoy it. 4 is decent too. Love 5, agree with 6, enjoy 7, 8 is ok I think, 9 I hate and 10 I also love. Yeah, real shame about casual audiences as most also cast the blame of dwindling quality on Peter Capaldi yet this scene proves how phenomenal a doctor he was.
Forever obsessed with this speech and the way it sums up all of the Doctor's character but also specifically THIS Doctor's stubborn, angry, punk rock attitude. Every Doctor would give their life to save the defenseless, this Doctor specifically does it because it's the hill he's willing to die on, that people are worth saving even if only for a little while. Moffat wrote the hell out of this, not just for the previously stated reasons but also in how it speaks to the rest of his era of Doctor Who, with Eleven's "Sometimes winning is no fun at all" and Clara and Missy's conversation about "How is the Doctor going to win this time?" and here we have the Doctor admitting it's never about winning. Just a hell of a piece of writing, and Capaldi's phenomenal performance on top of that. No music, no camera movement, just Capaldi and the words and it's one of the greatest moments in the show.
Out of all the Doctor's speeches (including the Eleventh Doctor's, and I consider him to be my favorite), I feel that this one is not only the best and most character-defining, but also stands as an example of absolute selflessness. The best kind of hero, whether real or fictional, does not do good out of revenge, anger, hatred, or for personal glory. They do it because it is the right thing to do, because "why not be kind?" This moment stands out as an inspirational message that people can and should do the right thing, simply because it is kind.
Missy’s face! It was ripping me apart to watch that. She DID stop at first when the Doctor yelled “No!”. This was the ultimate metaphor of who you might become struggling against who you’ve always been. 😞
Capaldi poured heart and soul into this performance. It really shows. The Doctor might not have super powers but his* words changed so many things for the better. The Doctor is the (fictional) hero I look up to. Very very flawed, often makes mistakes, often the ego gets in the way but in the end they** find a way to make right of wrong. *her in the case of Thirteen **plural, talking about all the different incarnations there
Honestly my favourite speech from 12. Yes, he’s had many good ones (with Heaven Sent literally being a monologue), this is the one that takes me into a place where I believe that there are still good people in the world.
This is why Capaldi was an amazing doctor...he really captured the age and experience and pain and wisdom that the doctor has gotten over the 2000 years he has lived...Capaldi will always be the best doctor to show his age
1:05 The contrast between Missy's and the Master's faces is wild. Whereas Missy actually looks remorseful, the Master's face has an expression that basically says "When do we get to the point of this where I actually care?"
Capaldi has the absolute best speeches. I truly feel that he is the kindest version of the doctor. He acts cold toward people, not because he doesn’t care, but because he’s too focused on protecting them.
Peter Capaldi was not only amazing at delivering amazing jokes he was also fantastic at those deep and emotional lines to which makes him the perfect doctor
This for me is Peter capaldi's defining moment as the doctor, he finally let's the master know why he always helps people wherever he may go, he is doing it because it is kind. Because he knows that it is better to stand and fight in the hope of saving everyone, even if he knows he can't he will try his hardest no matter the cost. You really feel for him when he refuses to regenerate, because he has grown tired of living to only suffer. The more he saves the universe the more it needs saving. But he realises that the everyone would suffer even more in a universe without the doctor in it. I like in his final speech as he is talking to jodies doctor and the audience telling them that hate is always foolish and love is always , he is telling them that although his era has come to an end and he knows many will not like the change he is telling us to always be kind. This for me makes Peter capaldis doctor the best doctor for kindness and wisdom xx
I adore this speech, it really shows the Doctor, as who he is, do what's right and decent. It's so simple and effective I try and live my life like this.
Only the out of touch and warped terminally online left would call it bizarre. Doctor who needs to trade up it is based off failed ideologies, time for the valeyard
Twelve went through the most character debelopment of any of the new doctors, hands down. I'm excited for Thirteen but I seriously really miss Twelve, and scenes like this 💙
Two masters, vintage cybermen and in all this, Peter still owns this episode and stands out. Now that's a great Doctor.
I thought it was overcomplicated
@@Mcdude02 Nonsense
@@Mcdude02 You call this episode overcomplicated? Try "The Wedding of River Song"
Watch anything related to River Song, her timeline is a mess
The BEST of modern "DOCTOR WHO" models.
Notice he aims a good majority of that speech at Simm’s Master, knowing that he’s planting a seed and that by the time he becomes Missy they will have had a whole lifetime to think about that
The words of which are something the doctor has spent decades thinking about himself. Decades wondering whether he's truly good, to form himself into a man with a genuine duty to kindness. He wouldn't have been able to make this speech at the end of S9, because he wouldn't have believed it himself.
Missy doesn’t remember this period. Wouldn’t natter
@@jordan3400 As stated in this episode (Missy having the spare part for the Master's TARDIS) and TDOTD (The Curator telling 11 what to do next) as well as 10 teaching 5 how to fix the TARDIS in the CiN special, they do remember the messages and lessons of their time-crossed adventures, just not the visuals or any of the specifics. So Missy would remember the general idea of the Doctor's speech here, even if she doesn't know where she heard it or who said it.
@@foxwhitemore3931 plus that embrace… she knows what is about to happen and he doesn’t. It has to be this way for so many reasons but the doctor has at last gotten through to her. She wants to stay but can’t
the master actually knows what the doctor is doing, that's why he's trying to direct the doctor's attention to his face, the one that's not caring, while his other face is considering it. as if to make sure he knows there's no chance that he'll care
"This is the face that didn't listen to a word you just said."
Missy's is the face that did.
And thats where he made his mistake of talking to him and not her
@@pancon9947 He *was* talking to her. He was just giving his words time to sink in.
@@HighSlayerRalton see your comment is clever because it's layered ❤
but, if u see his face u can see he listened to that, but he didn't wanted to admit it
@@pancon9947 it wasn't a mistake. the Doctor planted the seeds in the Simms master knowing full well that by Missy's time they would make much, much more sense
And here Ladies and gentlemen you can see how amazing Peter Capaldi was as the doctor !!
He was absolutely a good Doctor. He had some amazing dramatic moments. It was his silly moments that felt too overdone. The writing for a lot of the episodes in series 8 and 10 weren't good either. Series 9 and the end of series 10 was really where he got to show off as The Doctor he was.
You also look back on this scene and realise how good John Simm was as the master, he took the part and made it his own whilst acknowledging what came before him!
John Simm is a great Master, when he have a showrunner that make him play the Master, not a bolt shooting skeleton with cannibalistic instinct...
Although, judging by the ending to THIS story, that's what we're gonna end up with. She can't regenerate and received a fatal wound, bring back the spooky scary skeleton!
It is sad that we saw him like this so rare
Credit to Steven Moffat's writing. He really did know how to write a killer speech.
@YupimonEvolve You know that women can be doctors & men can be nurses, right?
Aaaah it was an attempt at humour. Fail. 😆
Yes moffat could write amazing speeches. He just sucked at making a decent series
@@LukasOfTheLight I'll respectfully disagree but each to their own. RTD era is my favourite but I'm really enjoying the current series (minus orphan 55)
@@mbyrne1212 how about we all just agree that Russel T Davis was the best. Chibnall was the worst and Moffat was somewhere in the middle
@@mbyrne1212 I disagree i loved the 11th through to the 12th doctor. The river storyline, twist, silence, not all but most of the episodes we're written with intellect were the doctor had to give a smart solution and you didn't know what he would do. The 12th doctor series wasn't perfect but i still sat down the day each episode aired and enjoyed it and still look back fondly on it. Now we have the trash ass 13th doctor, people like you wanted a new writer and now we do. Bet you didn't want that, be careful what you ask for. They've ruined doctor who the point i stopped watched after jodies first episode and can no longer watch previous doctors cause i know where the story will end up going. I don't get the people who complain about moffat he wasn't perfect but to me he was damn near close. RIP Doctor Who, you were one of the unexpected best series i've ever watched.
I don't quite believe The Master when he said he didn't listen. Look at his face. He knows and understands, he just hasn't reached the point in his life where he can admit it to himself
@Charlie Bateman I think that's the point. The Doctor wasn't speaking to the Master with the intent of convincing him then. He was instead giving Missy a very, very long time to think about what was said. Much like starting the calculations to save Gallifrey a very long time ago.
Yep. You know he's totally lying when you see the look on Missy's face.
Agreed. I dont know how many more Regenerations it will take him to reach Missy, for the sake of the character i hope it's a few. hell i half hope Ms. Gomez makes a return because she was bloody brilliant in the role but honestly? it was well within Simm's version of the Master to side with the Doctor. he already did in The End of Time when they saved each other from the return of Galifrey but i guess its different when death is certain as opposed to merely likely.
Charlie Bateman nail. On. Head.
And you can see what Missy feels during this scene, she is trying to look up because of guilt of how she was back then.
If you imagine that the Doctor didn't recover at the end of the episode, this would make for a very good finale for the entire series. The Doctor falling where he's always stood, and the Master finally being redeemed.
That feeling when you’ve seen the series 12 finale and really wish this was the last episode
Tbh I just count this as the end and pretend s11/12 didn’t happen
I mean, as far as I'm concerned, until Chibnal drags his sorry arse out of the writing room, this is the finale. Series 11 and 12 did not happen.
Sad for Whittaker though, I'd really love to see what she can do when given a good story to work with.
You can actually just believe that the Doctor actually died when he blew up the cybermen. It makes for a great ending.
for me, this was the finale of doctor who.
I legit feel when time passes by history is gonna be kind to Peter Capaldi’s Doctor. He’s already seen as one of the greats but I really think he’ll be in contention for GOAT status. For me he already is.
Same. My daughter and I both feel this way. He was amazing in a very subtle way.
Hell yeah Capaldi is a true fan of this and it shows in the amount of passion he pours into this
Don't need time to pass, he's by far my favorite new who doctor. Tennant was always the best before but Capaldis speeches are SO goddamn chilling. Especially compared to the new morally broken doctor haha
Cut to 13th siccing Nazis on the master when they're a minority "let them see the real you" when they'd already won..
I think Jodie could have been an awesome doctor but the writing let her down
I think some of the newer fans that didn't like him because they were so used to the 'Hot' good looking doctor before him. I notice their usually a real noticeable different in option between old fans and new fans of the show in regards to Capaldi.
@@Underworlddream I can see what you mean, but it never seemed like a good enough reason for me. I know Capaldi isn’t young but I think he’s actually a pretty attractive guy. It’s an unpopular opinion but I never got why fan girls lost it over Matt Smith. He’s young but I don’t think he’s a handsome guy at all. Not even in an untraditional or unique way. I can buy Tennant being a sex symbol. However, both doctors were heavily romanticized by the media so I digress.
"I do what I do because it's right, because it's decent and above it's kind!"
AKO675 - Downfall Parodies Archive and it is this statement that is the part he passes onto Whitaker
*above all
A B I don’t know if you can reason with giant spiders.
A B but she was still doing what she perceived to be the kindest, most ethical thing for them
Words for anybody to live by.
The real tragedy of this episode was the fact that Missy decided to stand with the Doctor but he never realized that
Without witness. Without reward. She did what was right.
@@KNVisual she did it in extremis too
Elena Wright But at the same time, it would have changed their dynamic in the future if he had known.
It’s tragic, but it made sense narratively.
She did what she did, betraying her old self, so she would be who she is now. To at least give herself a chance. Sometimes you have to kill who you were to be who you are.
And.. Going to series 12. The doctor still doesn’t know, the master was going to help. And, It seems like nothing has changed. Personally, I think something happened to Missy, somehow she lived and learnt about the timeless child. And.. went insane. The master reborn again.
This sums up Peter's Doctor so well. To me, he is the ultimate incarnation of the Doctor. He is alien and strange, young and old, flawed and perfect. He embodies everything the Doctor has ever been and still brings across his own style.
This speech was written for HIM, like Heaven Sent, there are only a few Doctors who could have articulated a speech like this so well with no music, and he's one of them.
i couldn't see 10 or 11 being able to do it. 9 maybe, as for classic who, i haven't had the time to watch yet but i've got all of summer now so i'll try and get through it.
no, ten absolutely yes, and maybe 11. they had been marvelous doctors
He still sucks in Season 8. Like... I really like Capaldi's Doctor overall, but even after I had gotten past the "he's new, I don't like him" stage, I still don't like him when I go back to watch season 8. He's really just an asshole most of the time in those episodes and the Doctor from season 8 to season 9 was quite a personality shift.
Abigail Archer-Addams well that’s the point it shows just how much he developed from not knowing who exactly he was at the time and he was still vulnerable mentally and physically trying to hang on to himself. To me he’s perhaps the only Doctor to have such a developed characterization out of the rest which he why I loved him so much and I agree he was an ass in series 8 but rewatching his entire run and seeing how his character grow makes me appreciate series 8 Twelve even more.
wow i didn't even realize there was no music in here but its still dramatic, powerful and amazing as he always does
12 was
Stern like the 1st,
Goofy like the 2nd,
Active like the 3rd,
Unpredictable like the 4th,
Kind like the 5th,
Vain like the 6th,
Cunning like the 7th,
Gentle like the 8th,
Fierce like the War,
Angry like the 9th,
Lonely like the 10th,
Silly like the 11th.
He is the Doctor.
13 isn't the doctor
@@jerrybrown1063 she is
Accept it or not
Trazmaball Gyster Myster she has no character and is painful to watch. The BBC just can’t admit they buggered it. So I don’t accept it. If I did make that clear already 😂
@@jerrybrown1063 it's not her fault
Its chibnals or however his name is spelled
Trazmaball Gyster Myster I completely agree, Jodie is a great actress and I loved her in broadchurch. I just think she looked at the script and was as impressed as we are 😂😂. U can see it in her performance.
Performances aside, my favourite thing about this scene is the lack of music. That’s no dig at Murray Gold, his music in this finale was amazing, and it was also his decision not to have any music over this scene. But it works, it really works. The focus is absolutely on the Doctor, he’s not being heroic or showing off, he’s just asking his friend for help and desperately trying to find the good in them; and Peter Capaldi delivers an outstanding performance. Credit to John Simm and Michelle Gomez for their work on this finale as well. Michelle in particular has been a huge part of the Twelfth Doctor’s era, and her arc was wrapped up beautifully in this episode.
The Doctor Falls may have lacked the creeping horror elements of World Enough and Time, but its focus on the main characters more than made up for it. I loved it!
Absolutely. And it is remarkable, a true testament of Peter Capaldi's skill that he can pull off such an emotive speech without the additional music - I know part of what makes his "man that stops the monsters" stand out to me is Twelve's theme supporting. But here? No non-diegetic sound at all, and I prefer this speech over that one. Not even quiet, gentle music, like Four Knocks, and yet it's still possibly even more powerful.
Sarosenna I really like Flatline, and the Twelfth Doctor’s theme, but I’m not too keen on the speech at the end. For me it’s trying a bit too hard to be a defining “I’m the Doctor” moment and it doesn’t quite land. That’s why I much prefer this one. It’s just letting the actors carry a significant moment in the story, and it works really well. Music has always been a key part of Doctor Who, but it’s knowing when there shouldn’t be any that’s just as important as knowing when there should.
Oh, absolutely. And I understand where you're coming from with regards to the Flatline speech - personally, I just think it's exhilarating.
I entirely agree, doctor who has an amazing soundtrack that complements the emotion perfectly and part of that is knowing where to have silence, which is a skill not many shows and films have
My thoughts exactly. And I think the reason why a couple past season finales by Moffat (The Big Bang, The Wedding of River Song) failed was because they tried to resolve a grand spectacle-y event and just ended up being deus ex machina, whereas The Doctor Falls used the plotlines set up in World Enough and Time to create an emotional character-driven story instead. That's why it's my personal favorite Moffat finale imo
Capaldi was the most complete version of the doctor ever. He was harsh and kind and true. He had to find himself, then he had to heal all of ego, and then heal his own
I feel like this means so much if you take into account how he originally was angry and kinda a jerk over time he’s learned how to be kind what he says in this speech isn’t stuff he’s always known it’s stuff he had to learn and now he’s trying his best to make the master/missy learn it to
Am with this comment all days so underrated it's sad.....am scottish but there's only been two ffs lol
This is why Twelve's characterisation was good. In season 8 he questioned wether he is a good man or not, but at the end, it didn't matter anymore, because he now only cares that wether what he did is kind. It's all about kindness in the end.
I know this is an old comment but for those in future reading this comment and reply, the turning point was the "idiot with a box" speech. Twelve ended up being fantastic. Such a character arc.
Kindness is a nice idea, but it gets you nowhere in real life. I spent a lifetime being kind to others and still everyone treated me like something they had stepped on, for Jo reason at all except for the fact that they believed themselves better than me
So, I stand with the Master. Exploit the world for your own benefit at the expense of others because they would show you the same in the same circumstances
@@SamuelBlack84 "Kindness is a nice idea, but it gets you nowhere in real life... Exploit the world for your own benefit at the expense of others because they would show you the same in the same circumstances" -
If kindness doesn't resonate with you and who you truly are, maybe that's not for you. The worlds full of people with many ugly and beautiful diverse thoughts. Be warned though, you will find quick company with paranoia with the framework you mention as history has shown with dominators, oppressors and tyrants often find themselves intimate with. And the schemes you may play to continue that power struggle of control very probably will lead you to lose track of all the complex weavings just to keep away the other vampires and monsters in the court you dine from projecting the very thing you did to take your "crown".
Jesters are a funny thing. Court jester often made a mockery of "kings" as was often shown in the medieval days. Reminding those in power of humility.
@@SamuelBlack84 Then what you were doing was not being kind for kindness sake, but either for people to like you or respect you. Yours were always polluted.
@@JeffCJY I was raised to be kind to people then they would respond in kind, but that madness is over now and I can see the truth of the rewards of exploitation and manipulation for your own benefits. It's the natural side of humanity that they pathetically struggle to ignore while it gnaws at them from the inside, struggling to escape
I like how missy flinches when he first shouts out “No!”
It's as if she remembers this moment, and has been dreading it.
For centuries.
I like to pretend that when Missy took Doctor's hand, he felt the blade
You do see a slight flicker of realisation on the doctor’s face when he figures out Missy’s plan
Ben17ism Never realised it until I read this...
I prefer to think otherwise, it makes her turning to side with him that much more impactful, she truly embodies the doctor for that brief moment, good without witness or reward
KanitoKawaii agreed. She did what she needed to do, not for the doctor but for the good of the universe without recognition
I always read the scene to imply he felt the blade.
1:45 - "What would you die for?"
Just about 5-10 minutes later, Missy dies for going to try and help the Doctor.
And the doctor well never know he reached her
@@mattjones6578 but isn't that the beautiful point, she died knowing would know she did but that didn't matter because she did the right thing.
@@mattjones6578 he understood, when she touched his hand with her's and the hidden blade rig. She's the only one who could stop him
SPOILERS.....
True...
The fact that I drowned in my own tears with this speech and there wasn’t even a background music... Capaldi really is a magical Doctor.
I feel like Tennant’s and Smith’s speeches were often elevated and made much better by a swell of orchestral music, whereas Capaldi’s are most effective in dead silence, he has that power behind his words 😍
Indeed.
"Who I am is where I stand - where I stand... is where I fall." The 12th Doctor is amazing!! :)
Facts
Fax
So, by the transitive property, "You are where you fall"?
@@weebjeez Yes. You are defined by the sacrifices you're willing to make.
This is the speech that got me into doctor who. We had to do monologues in drama class and a kid did this one (beautifully by the way, he did amazing!) and after I asked what it was from and I decided that if a sci fi show could be that deep I wanted in desperately.
Genuinely cool. :-)
I did this monologue for an audition back in high school and got a lead role with it 😂! It truly is a very powerful and beautifully written speech
Cut to first episode being living mannequins 😂
No way, I did this in uni for my 2020 drama monologue! He chose right. What a speech.
That's awesome
Laugh hard, run fast, be kind.
doctor...i let you go...
😔
Never eat pears
Hate is always foolish... And love is always wise.
And of course... you mustn't tell anyone your name.
One of the saddest moments of the revived series is that the Doctor never finds out that he was right about Missy. At the end of it all, he was right. She changed.
She changed. Without hope. Without witness. Without reward. She did what was right.
@Jay Ryan Chibnal is proof of why you should never let fanboys write anything canonical.
@@myrixica4222 calling it right now, the next show runner will retcon everything chibnal did, the timeless child, the masters new incarnation (at least where it is in the list of regenerations), all of it, Whittaker was a great doctor, the stories were well made, they were all just ruined by chibnals writing, he probably should’ve just stuck with broadchurch.
Chibnal ruined the entire master/missy redemption 😢😢🤬🤬
@@Gmanluigi Next show Runner is Russel T Davis
Aka the person who originally revived Doctor who and ran the 9th and 10th doctor’s series
@@Gmanluigi We can hope. Peter Capaldi's Doctor wakes up with a thumbing headache muttering "The Dream Lord is back, that was a nightmare!"
See this face? This is the face that didn't listen to a word you just said." Oh Master of all people you should know this one thing better than anyone else... you have ALWAYS been two faced...
Younger Master said he didn't listen to a word....
Missy remembers the names of everyone she ever killed without even knowing it...
I'm not saying I'm just saying
So two faced that the Doctor is literally talking to two of his faces.
And at the end Missy died helping the Doctor.
"Without hope. Without witness. Without reward."
John Simm manages to capture The Master’s personality perfectly. The man who refuses to regenerate out of spite. Even in the Moffat era, he still got it 👏
That "you see this face?"" response is just perfect.
John Simm was legitimately so boring under Moffat.
I love that he specifies that his motivation isn’t even to be a savior or hero, just to be kind and right even if it’s a lost cause
Yeah, like, the 9th doctor would have fought because of the guilt that would haunt him if he didn't.
The 10th doctor would have done it out of his god complex and his need to not just try, but SAVE EVERYONE.
The 11th doctor would have helped because it would be too painful for him to watch the disaster if he just stays there doing nothing.
The 12th doctor fought not because a sense of duty or something like that. He did it just because it was the right thing to do.
Michelle Gomez says so much without a single word. You know she's changed her mind listening to the Doctor. That little glance, the sorrow in her eye, because she knows what her old self is about to say, and she actually feels shame.
I love this scene so much
This scene got everything right about the Doctor's chatacter and everything about the Master's character . Peter Capaldi gave his best performence in this scene . This scene also connected the story arc with the vault and Missy becoming good . This scene this speech will go down as one of the best of Doctor Who's history
Capaldi is acting his Whovian heart out in this scene. He grew up watching the Master-Doctor dynamic, and this is his way of trying to get it right. Having watched so many Doctors fail to make The Master listen, this is his time. I love 12, such a great Doctor
God this finale was just spectacular in every way. The acting in particular was phenomenal. Peter Capaldi and Michelle Gomez had the biggest chemistry of a Doctor and Master ever written, it was so interesting to delve deeper into their relationship. Will miss both of them!
+Dylan C
David Tennant and John Simm had good chemistry too.
@@thundervoid420 As did Jon Pertwee and Roger Delgado.
@@einezcrespo
Yep.
Pertwee and Delgado. No one comes close to them.
@@einezcrespo Pretty much every Master has had good chemistry with the Doctor. They were all awesome.
“No! No! When I say no, you turn back around! Hey! I'm going to be dead in a few hours, so before I go, let's have this out, you and me, once and for all. Winning? Is that what you think it's about? I'm not trying to win. I'm not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because, because I want to blame someone. It's not because it's fun and God knows it's not because it's easy. It's not even because it works, because it hardly ever does. I do what I do, because it's right! Because it's decent! And above all, it's kind. It's just that. Just kind. If I run away today, good people will die. If I stand and fight, some of them might live. Maybe not many, maybe not for long. Hey, you know, maybe there's no point in any of this at all, but it's the best I can do, so I'm going to do it. And I will stand here doing it till it kills me. You're going to die too, some day. How will that be? Have you thought about it? What would you die for? Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand, is where I fall. Stand with me. These people are terrified. Maybe we can help, a little. Why not, just at the end, just be kind?”
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@@krachemalek5980 KIRA
So much emotions, so much pain, so much mercy, so much Doctor!!
Josip Sakic So “many” emotions is the correct way of saying it. #GrammarNazisSuck
You know, everyone keeps saying that the Doctor never knew that Missy had stood with him but, if you notice the bit when Missy grabs the Doctor's hand and says "But thanks for trying," I do believe she's got the knife in her hand and is subtly communicating to the Doctor what she's about to do! Just thought I'd say that as not many people seem to have noticed.
McMikey omfg. I forgot she did that. That’d be dope. HEAD CANON
I also think the Doctor may have transferred some regeneration energy to her because I think he knew that the Master would kill her the only way I can see her surviving if they choose to bring her back.
Sean Last lol, I don't think it works like that.
you can't rule out anything in Doctor Who The Master always survives some how
Sean Last I was talking about the exchange of regeneration energy. There is no doubt they will bring the Master back.
Upon rewatch, they reeeeeally better make sure Sacha-Master is an iteration between Simm and Gomez, because if the Master really did just go right back to Simm-style mania after this powerful of a scene, I will never forgive Chibnall.
I fully expected that to happen with the Post-Missy incarnation honestly, Chibnall or not. Simm's Master basically makes sure the good in him dies with Missy; knowing full well they'll continue somehow but with the Doctor's influence gone. Moffat did that a fair amount where he teased big changes but in the end didn't rock the boat too much ( Davros almost getting redeemed, The Doctor briefly conquering Gallifrey before just leaving again and back to a strained relationship, Clara dying but not dying, Bill dying but not dying, etc ). The scenes involved in all of what I just described including this were great and very powerful, but still. It was clearly never intended for The Master to truly be redeemed; only to tragically show how close Missy came to change.
@@spaceboomer564 I mean, in this case, she *did* bite the dust, on-screen. The Saxon-Master coming back made some degree of sense because of Day of the Doctor, I don't think there's really a similar out here.
You are a notbing kid.
boy were you disappointed.
@@spaceboomer564 that's so depressing
Going from this level of acting, writing, characterisation, storytelling and pathos to season 11 is the biggest whiplash in Doctor Who's history
I don't think Doctor Who will ever have a true 'series finale' as perfect as this two-parter. Twelve's character arc through the last 3 seasons, Missy's self-realization, all of it was flawless.
I think this had the chance to be even better if moffat didn’t listen to chibnall and had the regeneration at the end of this episode
@@DigitalCrateIt wasn’t that Moffat necessarily bent to *Chibnall’s* will. The BBC did. Chibnall didn’t want to introduce Jodi in a Christmas special and the BBC said if Doctor Who didn’t have a Christmas special they’d lose their *extremely* exclusive December 25th broadcast slot.
So Moffat and his team caved, sacrificing the greatest regeneration story of all time in order to keep the slot. Which Chibnall threw away anyway when he changed to New Year’s specials. What a waste.
agreed@@DigitalCrate
@@rigatonipasta and then DW ended up getting the Christmas slot back under RTD. Just gets worse and worse dammit
@@TA-zq3ez What’s wrong with RTD Christmas specials??
“See this face? Take a good... long... look.
at this face!”
“This is the face, of someone who didn’t listen to a word you just said!”
The most cold hearted thing the Master has ever said to the Doctor!
Closely followed by "And spend the rest of my life imprisoned with you?!"
He's lying.
Capaldi is under-rated. I just feel lucky we got 3 seasons with him at all.
This scene is all I ever want out of a Doctor. Doing the right thing even when doing the wrong thing is easier.
This episode is the greatest Doctor Who episode ever made. Everything about it is a celebration of who the Doctor is, who Peter Capaldi's Doctor is, who Steven Moffat's Doctor is.
This speech is powerful because the Twelfth Doctor wasn't a funny trickster like the Second Doctor. He has come a long way from the scary monster of series 8 and the arrogant superhero of series 9. This is the guy who staged a coup on Gallifrey, threatened to kill Ashildr. When you see a guy like him say things like it is okay to not win for a change, why not just be kind?, you see the change in his character is the very change this show tries to pass on to its viewers. Peter Capaldi may not be your Doctor, Steven Moffat may or may not be your favorite writer, but it is LITERALLY impossible to say there has ever been such an apt and powerful description of the show in a single scene.
"but it is LITERALLY impossible to say there has ever been such an apt and powerful description of the show in a single scene" Haha, Moffat topped this scene in the very next episode he wrote (his final episode):
DOCTOR 1: There is good and there is evil. I left Gallifrey to answer a question of my own. By any analysis, evil should always win. Good is not a practical survival strategy. It requires loyalty, self-sacrifice and er, love. So, why does good prevail? What keeps the balance between good and evil in this appalling universe? Is there some kind of logic? Some mysterious force?
BILL: Perhaps there's just a bloke.
DOCTOR 1: A bloke?
BILL: Yeah. Perhaps there's just some bloke, wandering around, putting everything right when it goes wrong.
DOCTOR 1: Well, that would be a nice story, wouldn't it?
BILL: That would be the best.
DOCTOR 1: But the real world is not a fairy tale.
BILL: You dash around the universe trying to figure out what's holding it all together, and you really, really don't know?
DOCTOR 1: You know me in the future. Do I ever understand?
BILL: No. I really don't think you do. Everyone who's ever met you does. You're amazing, Doctor. (hugs him) Never forget that. Never, ever.
Cant wait to read all the comments by the people who stopped watching when Capaldi became the doctor. Hopefully this video shows them that his era was actually *spectacular,* in the words of the Master.
THEVALEYARD I loved the way he started then he grew so knowledgeable as time grew on. I'm waiting to see the comments of people who stopped watching because of the female doctor
I loved the entirety of his era. It frustrates me that a couple of my friends irl who used to watch Doctor Who stopped when he was cast. He was an excellent doctor, and the scripts weren't as bad as some people say they were.
Capaldi's era was not bad. He was just a victim of bad writing for the episodes. His portrayal of the role was on point though.
Sure, some scripts we godawful, but even they had some excellent gem scenes in them! The majority of his episodes were amazing, and I would seriously suggest his era to anybody who has not watched them for whatever reason.
The speech on war from the Zygon Invasion episode leaves me speechless every time I watch it. Almost every time Capaldi would make a speech, it ended up being one of his best scenes. He's a very emotional actor and that can be seen in many roles he's played throughout his career. One of my favorites was his role in Torchwood.
Absolutely *stunning.* Peter Capaldi was an extraordinary Doctor and we were so lucky to have such an incredible actor playing the Twelfth Doctor. I wouldn’t swap a second of his tenure.
I’ve met Peter at a comic con and told that his Doctor hit the most with me for being the most complete incarnation with a dash of every previous Doctor before him. Amazingly fantastic.
I love how utterly humble this speech is, all the other doctors had dramatic music in the background but this one only had chirping crickets.
Even though Peter hasn't been the Doctor for a long time now I always come back to this speech because of how he absolutely nails it.
Him describing it as just kind sums up the character of the doctor perfectly! ❤️this speech!!!
I think one of my favourite things about Twelve is that in the future, if they decide to bring him back for a multi-Doctor special, you could pick Series 8 Twelve, Series 9 Twelve, or Series 10 Twelve, and essentially end up with a totally different character and episode. He progresses and grows so much as a character and as an incarnation of the Doctor, it's seriously impressive. Seriously amazing work from both Moffat and Capaldi.
To be honest, there's very little connection between his three Doctors. I wanna see why (as a character) he wanted to become a university lecturer. In terms of narrative, I get it, but there's no motivation in character.
But I do love 12 all the same. My favourite Doctor.
@@nightowl8477 maybe because of his best friend who was a teacher
@@nightowl8477 But there IS a connection. I can see it.
@@nightowl8477 Yeah not only was Clara a teacher. But he was watching over Missy for 70 years and when a school house was being built right where the chamber was he was probably like "why not?" After all he's "nothing without an audience" (HeavenSent).
Has anyone else noticed whenever 12 has a speech, there’s no music? It truly shows how Capaldi can deliver a speech since handily with such emotion.
Whenever I am going through a hard time and questioning whether what I do makes a difference, this speech comes to mind. It gives me strength and inspiration.
this is where I prefer Moffat to RTD, RTD had a way more consistent run but Moffat has really changed my life, from: "fear doesn't have to make you cruel or cowardly, fear can make you kind" to "without hope, without witness, without reward" his era is filled to the brim with quotes that help me see what to stand for especially when the road ahead is foggy.
@@isaacwright8211 I agree with you, Moffatt’s stories in the end were life changing and motivating. That’s what separates any piece of art, wether or not the audience can take something away into their life or wether it stays within the art. That’s how I measure a good story.
A lot of doctor who speeches just keep me Going through life
Peter Capaldi will always be "my" Doctor. His performances across his entire cycle were miniature epics of acting and style.
You can keep your Tennants and your Bakers, Capaldi is _my_ Doctor. And this scene is one of the many reasons why. Absolutely incredible speeches, every single time.
Why you people can't understand. There is no point in comparing different Doctors. Every Doctor is Great.
@@AliceEyler You must be fun at parties.
This scene was absolutely heart breaking on first watch. Smith’s Doctor is my favorite, and Tennant will always have a special place in my heart, but Capaldi brought me to the edge of tears with this scene. He knows he wont make it out alive. He knows he is destined to fail. He’s just trying to hold together what few lives are left. And he’s pleading for help and he’s not getting it. This hurts. Brilliant. But absolutely crushing.
can we talk about the fact that they didn't need to add music to this scene - peter's delivery of this speech was powerful enough on its own
I also like the little reference implied in telling the Saxon Master that it's "not about winning".
You really buy that 12 and Missy are sort of older, more tired versions of the ppl we once saw confront each other in series 3
I love how Missy nearly stops walking when the Doctor screams "No" for the first time. This is really beautiful scene which shows that Missy had really changed, but due to the bad influence from her past version she couldn't fully fight herself. Also in this scene we can see that she nearly started crying when the speech ended. Damn, I love the Series 10 finale, it was so emotional
3:32 The moment The Doctor knows what Missy is about to do. The blade was probably under Missy's sleeve anyway.
This. This is one of the reasons why the Doctor as a character is my favorite character of all time, in any story, in any medium. His intentions when he defends the world/other planets (and even the entire universe on some occasions) is so pure. He’s not vengeful, not hateful, and he doesn’t win just for the sake of winning, his intentions is that he’s kind. He believes that everyone in the entire universe is special and worth protecting (or at least the ones who aren’t Daleks or Cybermen). He (or she) has always believed that, no matter the incarnation, no matter how angry he/she gets. I am so, so glad to be a whovian so I can enjoy the character so much.
Anyone else get a feeling when Missy grabbed the Doctor's hand, it was for that psychic link so he would know she was being sincere, not sarcastic, when she thanked him?
Also , she did it so he could feel the knife she had up her sleeve.
My favourite doctor giving his best speech in my opinion
12 - “if I run away today, good people will die. If I stand and fight some of them might live. Maybe not all and maybe not for long..”
13 - “literally runs away and let’s a random dude die for her because reasons?”
you mean at the end of s12? The old man came to save her yes but also to redeem himself as he felt guilty of the whole situation with the cybermen.
Even if yeah, it s bad written and the 13 ran away, but since she realises there s more to know about herself maybe that redefines the doctor.
@@yaunadia33 also not running away would of wasted time and the master probably would of shot one of them ruining the plan because that's what he does
@@yaunadia33 1) The Cybermen threat was 200% 13’s fault. Jack literally warned her (and his own appearance in the series was worthless I guess; idk why they made him show up if he wasn’t going to do anything until the special) “hey don’t give the lone cyberman what he wants”. The lone cyberman shows up and after a couple of threats she just immediately gives him what he wants. Which directly leads to everything going to shit in the future. The Master is HER best friend and went insane because he learned a part of her was in him. Just to clear this is ALL terrible writing, but even in the terrible writing it was more 13’s fault than anyone else’s. What was the old guy’s other option? Leave the cyberium in the future (well his present) so the cybermen could wipe them all out even faster? He lost his team and nearly died for hope. Hell, in the finale he was basically the one saving the day with his bombs, weapons, plans, and supplies. He was more useful and quick thinking than 13 was all series.
2) the bigger issue that the random old dude showed up instead of ANY OF THE COMPANIONS. Literally every other series makes a big point about how the Doctor needs companions to stop them from going to far or making a bad decision or to force them to do something really crazy and out of the box that saves everyone. Series 12? Well they are all just so poorly written and without any character or relationships that all takes is an “I have to” for everyone to completely give up. I think even Chibnall realized he did such a bad job establishing their character (he didn’t at all) and building a relationship between them and the Doctor that he just gave up and passed the job to the first likable character he found.
3) The episode itself literally makes a whole conversation just to point out that the whole “timeless child” thing changes nothing. Literally, Ruth and The Doctor talk and say something like: “Does it matter? Does it change anything?”; “yes it’s my past it totally matter”; “does it really?”; “Yeah I guess not. It just means there are more of us or something. We’re still the same person”. I don’t think you understand the depth of just how bad series 12 and that finale was. Chibnall literally wrote a continuity changing revelation that makes a point of saying “this basically changes nothing”. And it doesn’t change anything. The timelords have ALWAYS been corrupt. The show makes a point of that with the trial of a timelord (CLASSIC WHO), The End of Time, Heaven Sent, Hell Bent, the entire freaking time war, and hell the entire universe was ready to blow up a planet because no one likes them (and that’s just a drop in the bucket; other media (which I only know “of”) goes into detail about their corrupt and bloody history and other time wars they’ve raged). Chibnall screwed himself over by introducing Ruth as “this is basically still the Doctor”. It COULD have changed stuff if Ruth called herself something other than the Doctor, wasn’t traveling in THE SAME TARDIS (like how?!), and had a different agenda, but she and the Doctor were still the same person (that would have been mind blowing in suggesting there could he any number of distinctly different “Doctors” doing any number of things around the universe). Gallifrey being destroyed again changes nothing because the Doctor’s already been through that character development (like as early as series 1). The Master being evil again just devolved his character. All Chibnall did was ruin the Doctor’s origins/character (he took the “failure that became a God through effort and individualism” and turned it into “she was just always special” (which admittedly was something they tried when the show was waning (that the Doctor was the reincarnation of Omega or something like that), but I mean there’s a reason the show was dying when they were trying that. This is like the worst example of NOT learning from history)). And introduced a tons of plot holes.
4) Just personally I’m pissed she didn’t do something silly like reverse the polarity to turn the life disintegration bomb into a life bringing bomb. That type of silly, last minute save the day out of nowhere shit IS Doctor Who and it would have been the first good who moment 13, but nope (I guess it’s hard with no companions worth a damn to convince the Doctor NOT to do the wrong thing).
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 I mean he could have still INSTANTLY ordered for the old man to get shot and stop her from getting saved from having to do it herself (and he just wanted HER to kill them both). The entire thing was stupid (then again the bar wasn’t set high when in the same episode you had the entire group randomly get onto a ship swarming with cybermen, arm bombs, successfully run away through long straight corridors and get off the HUGE ship in the very short time they had when the bombs “accidentally” armed, and had cybermen shooting like storm troopers (with no defenses in their own ship (like not even the ability to lock a door apparently)).
@@vullord666 ok so for the first part the master isn't evil he's just a bitch this is how he's been written all new who he wanted to know where the conversation was going that why he didn't kill them
This is a real superhero. Someone who is exceptional because they fight for kindness and decency; not out of hatred or a desire to beat someone but just cuz its right. It’s actually something I’ve found missing from much of the superhero genre, especially the MCU-with the exception of the solo Spider-Man movies. A real superhero is not fighting the bad guy to beat the bad guy, he (or she) is just trying to protect people. A real hero doesn’t seek out conflict, instead focusing on the people affected and making sure they’re safe. Defense, not offense.
You technically described superman, too bad recent stuff didnt do him justice
This is why Spider-Man and the Doctor are some of my favorite characters in all of fiction. They inspire us to be the best versions of ourselves.
Calpaldi was the best doctor. I love Matt Smith for his exciting and fun portrayal of the doctor, but capaldi’s character gave us an example of the philosophy of the doctor and that was way more compelling
This speech perfectly sums up what it means to be the doctor.
Lol 13 didn't listen
What I also love about this speech is how it calls back to Clara in season 9:
"She died for who she was and who she loved - she fell where she stood and it was sad, it was beautiful..." - Ashildr
"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall" - The Doctor
Series 10 finale was such a massive improvement on the Series 9 and 8 finales. So glad Capaldi got a good final series.
numpteez to be fair, I think Moffat flumped most of his finales in both doctors cases. Out of the ones he wrote, I think only series 5 and 10’s finales are what I’d call great. 6’s was horrendous, 7 was ok, 8’s was meh and 9’s was asinine (heaven sent was amazing, but destroyed by the toxic spill of hell bent). Plus with regard to Tennant, the show kind of peaked in terms of pop culture and there was much more of a casual audience for the series back then as well as whovians. The general public appreciation for the show seems to have severely dipped in recent years.
I thought the series 9 finale was great
numpteez You only hear people complain about the Capaldi finales because they are so recent (in comparison to Series 3 over a decade ago which I do see people complain about). In general though I agree with your opinions on every finale.
numpteez agreed, 1 and 2 are fab. Easily the best of RTD. I think 3 is actually not as bad as everyone says it is, but that mainly comes down to the set up in utopia and sound of drums - I can admit that last of the time lords is quite a mess even if I still enjoy it. 4 is decent too. Love 5, agree with 6, enjoy 7, 8 is ok I think, 9 I hate and 10 I also love. Yeah, real shame about casual audiences as most also cast the blame of dwindling quality on Peter Capaldi yet this scene proves how phenomenal a doctor he was.
Well don't forget hrleaven sent
Forever obsessed with this speech and the way it sums up all of the Doctor's character but also specifically THIS Doctor's stubborn, angry, punk rock attitude. Every Doctor would give their life to save the defenseless, this Doctor specifically does it because it's the hill he's willing to die on, that people are worth saving even if only for a little while. Moffat wrote the hell out of this, not just for the previously stated reasons but also in how it speaks to the rest of his era of Doctor Who, with Eleven's "Sometimes winning is no fun at all" and Clara and Missy's conversation about "How is the Doctor going to win this time?" and here we have the Doctor admitting it's never about winning. Just a hell of a piece of writing, and Capaldi's phenomenal performance on top of that. No music, no camera movement, just Capaldi and the words and it's one of the greatest moments in the show.
I love the setting. The dark blue sky looks beautiful, its the same colour as capaldi's dark blue velvet coat.
Only as time passes and I get older do I realise the beauty and genius of Moffat’s writing in Capaldi’s seasons. Truly phenomenal and something else.
2:23 - Best forum weapon _ever._
In all seriousness, this was an incredible moment in Doctor Who, and thank you for sharing this!
Out of all the Doctor's speeches (including the Eleventh Doctor's, and I consider him to be my favorite), I feel that this one is not only the best and most character-defining, but also stands as an example of absolute selflessness. The best kind of hero, whether real or fictional, does not do good out of revenge, anger, hatred, or for personal glory. They do it because it is the right thing to do, because "why not be kind?" This moment stands out as an inspirational message that people can and should do the right thing, simply because it is kind.
This is why I love this Doctor.. he's serious, grumpy, and dark, but underneath all that, he's the kindest man the universe has ever known.
This is THE Doctor. Peter was and always will be the doctor. And who ever stood against him has to answer to me.
Fabulous choice of actor to play the Doctor. So much depth. So much presence.
Missy’s face! It was ripping me apart to watch that. She DID stop at first when the Doctor yelled “No!”. This was the ultimate metaphor of who you might become struggling against who you’ve always been. 😞
The best speech Capaldi made "just be kind" absolutely amazing 👌🏻😃👍🏻
I actually like this speech the most because it perfectly describes why The Doctor does what he does.
One of my favourite speeches ever
Its not until you watch the current series that you look back and realise how great Capaldi was. The ultimate Doctor Who.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why Peter Capaldi is MY Doctor.
The emotion capaldi put in this speech really made me shiver!
Capaldi poured heart and soul into this performance. It really shows.
The Doctor might not have super powers but his* words changed so many things for the better. The Doctor is the (fictional) hero I look up to. Very very flawed, often makes mistakes, often the ego gets in the way but in the end they** find a way to make right of wrong.
*her in the case of Thirteen
**plural, talking about all the different incarnations there
Honestly my favourite speech from 12. Yes, he’s had many good ones (with Heaven Sent literally being a monologue), this is the one that takes me into a place where I believe that there are still good people in the world.
One day I will meet Peter Capaldi
And I will touch his hair
And I will never wash my hand again.
If you touch his hair, you will never be able to let it go... you will become one with the hair. Be the hair.
His hair the true god.
You want to know something I’ve actually meet him and shook his hand
@@kaiashton2885
But not his hair? Did thee touch his hair?!
Yikes. That would be creepy.
Honestly, if they ended Doctor Who with that arc. I wouldn't have been mad.
His acting was just brilliant. Capaldi as the doctor, what a perfect casting to me.
One of the most beautiful speeches ever written
Doing this as a monologue for my acting class tomorrow. wish me luck!
This is the best speach I have heard in my life.
No exaggeration no irony.
I come back to it every couple years.
This is why Capaldi was an amazing doctor...he really captured the age and experience and pain and wisdom that the doctor has gotten over the 2000 years he has lived...Capaldi will always be the best doctor to show his age
1:05 The contrast between Missy's and the Master's faces is wild. Whereas Missy actually looks remorseful, the Master's face has an expression that basically says "When do we get to the point of this where I actually care?"
Capaldi has the absolute best speeches. I truly feel that he is the kindest version of the doctor. He acts cold toward people, not because he doesn’t care, but because he’s too focused on protecting them.
Peter Capaldi was not only amazing at delivering amazing jokes he was also fantastic at those deep and emotional lines to which makes him the perfect doctor
This for me is Peter capaldi's defining moment as the doctor, he finally let's the master know why he always helps people wherever he may go, he is doing it because it is kind. Because he knows that it is better to stand and fight in the hope of saving everyone, even if he knows he can't he will try his hardest no matter the cost. You really feel for him when he refuses to regenerate, because he has grown tired of living to only suffer. The more he saves the universe the more it needs saving. But he realises that the everyone would suffer even more in a universe without the doctor in it. I like in his final speech as he is talking to jodies doctor and the audience telling them that hate is always foolish and love is always , he is telling them that although his era has come to an end and he knows many will not like the change he is telling us to always be kind. This for me makes Peter capaldis doctor the best doctor for kindness and wisdom xx
I adore this speech, it really shows the Doctor, as who he is, do what's right and decent. It's so simple and effective I try and live my life like this.
World Enough and Time and The Doctor Falls are my two favourote episodes ever, I think.
rewatching stuff like this makes this version of the doctor really grow on me more than when I first watched it
Anyone else here after the bizarre US Election result?
Only the out of touch and warped terminally online left would call it bizarre. Doctor who needs to trade up it is based off failed ideologies, time for the valeyard
Underrated Doctor,
He was a solid 9/10 Doctor, if only the writers were better.
Twelve went through the most character debelopment of any of the new doctors, hands down. I'm excited for Thirteen but I seriously really miss Twelve, and scenes like this 💙
Brilliant speech!
Enzo Clarke agreed