How to Tell If Your Novel Idea is a Good Idea

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  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1421

    I've said this many times: ideas are worthless. Even children have ideas - and frequently, children have very good ideas. Art is found in the *execution* of the idea.

    • @EllenBrock
      @EllenBrock  7 ปีที่แล้ว +275

      Yes! This is also why writers shouldn't be afraid of their ideas being stolen. What you do with your idea is vastly different from what anyone else would do with that idea. A hundred different writers could write a hundred completely different novels from the same basic idea.

    • @katiekatie6289
      @katiekatie6289 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Bullshit. Ideas are important. Bullshit. Ideas are important.

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater 7 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      What's the idea behind Batman? A man dresses up like a bat and punches bad guys because he misses his parents. That sounds like a terrible idea, but some excellent stories have been made off of it.
      What's the idea behind Jupiter Ascending? A woman finds out that all life on Earth was the creation of superior alien society that creates life on various worlds to amuse itself. That sounds like an excellent idea, but the movie sucks.
      Ideas are worthless. It's what you do with them that determines the value of the story.

    • @shai5651
      @shai5651 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Depends on your definition of the word idea. The Earth is blown up for a space highway, and a guy learns that it was made to ask the question of Life, the Universe and Everything sounds like a bad idea. A satirical take on sci-fi sounds like a great one.

    • @Kntrytnt
      @Kntrytnt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That's a point I was making in a debate recently. We were arguing over whether Sword Art Online is a good story or not, even though people love it.
      *Conceptually* SAO is a really intriguing idea (in my own opinion), but the *execution* the author took was mediocre at best, and glaringly broken at worst.
      Ideas are enough to get the creative juices flowing, but beyond that, it doesn't mean much.

  • @LuckyHodgepodge
    @LuckyHodgepodge 7 ปีที่แล้ว +665

    I hate when high concept novels fail from bad writing. When I can tell a novel could be so good but the wrong writer thought of it, it hurts my little story loving heart.

    • @larrylovehandle8472
      @larrylovehandle8472 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ImagineHodgepodge give me a few examples

    • @Stratelier
      @Stratelier 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ...like the Star Wars prequels?

    • @vegandinonuggs
      @vegandinonuggs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      ImagineHodgepodge i hate when I have this wonderful idea in my head but when I put it on paper or begin to outline it it just goes completely terribly. I’ve had to step back from a few projects because of poor planning. They had such great ideas, but I don’t know how to execute them well enough yet.

    • @huckmart2017
      @huckmart2017 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Final fantasy 10. sooo much potential, ruined in execution.

    • @enricobasbas7221
      @enricobasbas7221 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I think I’m guilty to this. I think my idea is above average. I plan it really well, in my opinion. But I just do that, nothing else. I only plan because when I write, it’s literally garbage. I even think I’m just a thinker, not a writer.

  • @mayhemshrapnel1030
    @mayhemshrapnel1030 7 ปีที่แล้ว +599

    "A group of children are teleported into a fantasy world."
    *cough* nearly all new anime *cough"

    • @Alexaflohr
      @Alexaflohr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Did Alice in Wonderland do that first, or was there something earlier than that?

    • @mayhemshrapnel1030
      @mayhemshrapnel1030 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Alexander Abrams-Flohr well yeah. but anime is rife with it like you won't believe

    • @SAkURAYOWA
      @SAkURAYOWA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      isekai

    • @infiniteworlds5
      @infiniteworlds5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      A lot of anime, but FAR from 'nearly all'.

    • @shoople
      @shoople 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dont do sword art online like this

  • @LungsOutJem
    @LungsOutJem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +496

    I don't know if it's a good idea, but it certainly is.....
    Novel.

    • @sleepyselkiesiren
      @sleepyselkiesiren 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      J. C. Badum tss

    • @stamoswarriors3728
      @stamoswarriors3728 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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  • @1monki
    @1monki 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2013

    "Writing a children's book about the sexual escapades of a 20-year-old is a bad idea."
    I don't know, *50 Shades of Grey* seems to have done pretty well.

    • @crypticmrchimes
      @crypticmrchimes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +460

      Nonononono. She meant a book written *for* children, not a book that written *by* children based on how poorly written it is!

    • @courtneydurham8429
      @courtneydurham8429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Thank you. I needed this comment today! :)

    • @luizguilhermemajuri7362
      @luizguilhermemajuri7362 7 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Children could have done better!How dare you?!

    • @lomischke
      @lomischke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      1monki Yeah! I read that to my children every night-

    • @scout2125
      @scout2125 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      EL James is crying over your criticism all the way to the bank.

  • @bytheBrooke
    @bytheBrooke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +573

    There are so many rewashed stories out there that can turn a familiar premise into a powerful and original idea. It's all due to how the author constructs and carries the story.

    • @XenaBe25
      @XenaBe25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hope so. I've been playing with an idea for an outbreak story... NO.There are NO ZOMBIES lol. The setting, characters, and the nature of the virus seem original. But blah... There are no zombies. And just about every possible interesting Infected And Questing For A Cure story arc has been done to death, parodied a hundred different ways AND made into dozens of video game series. :( Would any of you read another pulp dystopian novel with a catchy enough title and cover art?

    • @infiniteworlds5
      @infiniteworlds5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Personally, I'm only sick of vampires and werewolves. And that's mostly due to the abundance of lame love-triangles and gross controlling relationships.
      I'm still into dystopian. It has WAY more angles to take. Same with outbreaks. It can be played so many different ways, I think it still has plenty of potential.

    • @larrylovehandle8472
      @larrylovehandle8472 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I heard the thing to do now is just take a popular story and make all the characters gay, pocs, or Muslim...

    • @Katherine_The_Okay
      @Katherine_The_Okay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was reading a book on how to write by Isaac Asimov and he basically said in one chapter that it's true that there are only six premises out there. The REAL trick is to give if a presentation and spin that are unique and meaningful

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@XenaBe25 Probably not. But that might be just me, because I dislike stories about diseases or pandemics or such. I need my antagonists to have a face - or at least plans and purpose rather than just killing everyone or turning everyone into something horrible because that's what the nature of said plague determines.

  • @LaMortesAbyss
    @LaMortesAbyss 7 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    I know it's an impossible request, but never stop doing these. Slowly but surely they help me grow the confidence I need to return to my writing. Depression is cruel when one has a story to build.

    • @diego2112gaming
      @diego2112gaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      LaMorte you ain't kidding on the depression. My wife has set herself a goal of 343 words a day, every day. I've set myself a goal of just *touching* my word processor for now. Depression and second shift are murder for writers.

    • @infiniteworlds5
      @infiniteworlds5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I do think depression and anxiety disorders have helped me write deeper characters.

    • @Amateur_Pianist_472
      @Amateur_Pianist_472 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LaMorte depression helped jk Rowling

    • @charmedprince
      @charmedprince 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I got depressed by my world building, then got depressed in my real life. Tried minimalism, burnt all my manuscripts. Am done with writing. But still, those fu*kers won't leave me alone. Now, years later, an rewriting them again. Am surprised at how i still remember everything despite my not touching about them for a long time. I hope i give them the story they deserve. Good luck to every other storytellers out there!

    • @lesleybarrow8906
      @lesleybarrow8906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@charmedprince just remember when you meet people again after a long break they will have changed, as your characters have changed, you many not know them as you once did, the relationship you once had will be different, don't assume they have the same traits as before. A devious character may be dangerous & twisted now having all their hurt fester since you knew them last. Two lovers may be living with a dead marriage now & staying for the kids, resenting their kids for the prison they are in. Life goes on. Is Jane Eyre the same girl/woman you got to know when you were 12? Each time you meet her now you may realise how inspiring a person she is.

  • @liwest511
    @liwest511 7 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    It's all in how you execute it, I think.

    • @ArtyFartyBart
      @ArtyFartyBart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Anne Boleyn story...

    • @sheehancf9
      @sheehancf9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely. Hemingway, case and point. Simple, straightforward plots, executed well.

  • @Hanariel
    @Hanariel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    "the hunger games" is far from original.
    In Japanese media, specially anime and manga, this type of story is so well established for years, that turned into its own genre, "survival game"

    • @HipposHateWater
      @HipposHateWater 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      But unlike Battle Royale, the Hunger Games the one that almost single-handedly brought the genre to the west/popularized it worldwide.

    • @saoooo0988
      @saoooo0988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      HipposHateWater because it’s the west, and Hollywood?

    • @stevegans731
      @stevegans731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "The Most Dangerous Game", "Surviving The Game", "Hard Target", those are just the film's alone that I can think of off the top of my head that told the story first.

    • @jeant6502
      @jeant6502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stevegans731 Also Stephen King's "The Running Man"

    • @zeroisland7
      @zeroisland7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevegans731 True! I dont think they were children killing children.

  • @Hannahacarmona
    @Hannahacarmona 7 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    This plot verses premise is something I never thought of and so helpful!!

  • @cameronsmith1178
    @cameronsmith1178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I really enjoy your clear communication. So many editors or literary agents talk in such convoluted terms about what they want to see that it could mean a lot of different things. Keep it up! :)

  • @samsheeee
    @samsheeee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    The idea for Hunger Games had already been done by Battle Royale but they're completely different stories so yeah no idea is original just depends on the execution

    • @Mana-br4ew
      @Mana-br4ew 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hunger games pretty much ripped off of battle royale

    • @AIONBERSERKER
      @AIONBERSERKER 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They aren't completely different. They share a lot of plot points actually.

    • @HipposHateWater
      @HipposHateWater 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same with Edge of Tomorrow and the manga "All You Need is Kill". (Although I still loved both.)

    • @arkblazer1
      @arkblazer1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HipposHateWater edge of tomorrow credits all you need is kill and is supposed to be a live action adaptation

    • @SilverDemon456
      @SilverDemon456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mana-br4ew Open a history book.

  • @PoopyBarfy
    @PoopyBarfy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    00:31 Oh no... Back to the drawing board.

  • @richardhawkins2647
    @richardhawkins2647 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    When I saw you title I thought, "Oh no!" But you addressed it, of course! I have read new writers books where they feel they have to shoe horn in as many unique ideas as they can. But I liken it to all art, start simple, and do simple well. Some of the best stories have been the simplest ones that have already been done to death stories, but very well crafted.
    Good to see you back by the way!

  • @wolfmatic399
    @wolfmatic399 7 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    This reminds me of the story of the creation of Codex Alrera. Jim Butcher was arguing about ideas online and said that it was a good writer who made a good book, not a good idea. He wrote the first codex Alrera to prove the point. The concept was created by the writer he was arguing with. Pokémon plus the lost Roman legion.

    • @trackyjon-jonandjimmymoop274
      @trackyjon-jonandjimmymoop274 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I just typed this out but decided to check if anyone else mentioned Codex Alera!
      Love the story and the series.

  • @EllenBrock
    @EllenBrock  7 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Hey guys! I finally solved the issue with the auto-focus. Hooray! Unfortunately, I had some trouble with shots being out of focus. I tried to cut out those shots as much as possible but that also resulted in some choppiness in the video. Thanks for bearing with me as I work out the technical issues.
    In this video I really wanted to go over some misconceptions about the importance of the seed idea/premise of the novel. Publication is about so much more than an original or unoriginal idea. Execution of the idea is so important! I hope you found it helpful. Thanks!

    • @JohnDlugosz
      @JohnDlugosz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tip: if you don't want to re-record, replace bad video passages (where you need to use the audio) with a "B Roll". Cut to a slide containing what you are saying, an illustration, etc.

    • @radishsayshi
      @radishsayshi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't find this disappointing at all! You actually boosted my confidence. I feel like I have wonderful, fully developed characters, and a nice handle on my writing style, but I've been worried for awhile that my plot isn't original enough to go the distance. Now I can relax a little and focus on making it stand out in the ways that count. Thanks for the advice!

    • @kairon156
      @kairon156 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You forgot about Narnia

    • @ankulupreti7896
      @ankulupreti7896 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

    • @JROtoons
      @JROtoons 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi. When I get an idea, it's usually just a random visual moment, where a character does something interesting in a stunning environment. When the vision is over, I get really excited, and would love to watch the scene developed further, but all I am able to do is visualize the same sequence over and over. How do I turn that "thing" into a novel?

  • @dancbj-animatedreviews5253
    @dancbj-animatedreviews5253 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Which plot points am I excited about?" - Could be the magic phrase that helps you find out if your novel PLOT is a good one!

  • @ruwanweerakkody5411
    @ruwanweerakkody5411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Notes:
    - There is no original premise (idea) per se.
    - Make an interesting plot based on the premise (and other elements of the story).
    - "Don't worry so much if the idea is a good idea. If the melding of the idea with a good plot, strong character, good world-building - that is what makes the book work." 05:31

  • @rociomiranda5684
    @rociomiranda5684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a reader, there are premises I'm drawn to like a magnet, no matter how many times I see them. For example, a Beauty and the Beast set up. There are thousands of novels out there that use this idea, from Jane Eyre to Phantom of the Opera to Notre Dame de Paris to War and Peace. I never get tired of it. It's all in the execution and the elements around the premise that set it up.

  • @aliquidcow
    @aliquidcow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm so glad you made this distinction. I think so often people confuse premise with plot, which is why you hear people say 'X is just a rip-off of Y', when they just mean they have a similar premise. People love to say Hunger Games is a rip-off of Battle Royale, for example, but while they have a very similar premise, they have very different plots (and it's not even that original a premise to be honest).
    I think one slight exception to your statement that people don't buy something based solely on the premise would be something like Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, although I guess really that's a novelty book so doesn't really count.

  • @jedh3721
    @jedh3721 7 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I am a firm believer that a good wordsmith can take any idea and create a worthy story. Even concepts that are inherently divisive can attract people on both sides of the issue is written skillfully.
    I often look at modern comic books for this issue. Marvel has repeatedly made bad decision after bad decision for their comics, and the writers, editors, and executives have blamed their poor sales on the fans being racist and sexist. But then you look over at DC who has made many similar changes, and their sales are significantly higher than Marvel's. This is because the writers for DC are actually good at what they do, unlike the people at Marvel who claim to be writers..

    • @stagosaurus3181
      @stagosaurus3181 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Joseph Huckaby
      Unfortunately, this only applies to comic books, mostly. Movie-wise, it's the other way around.

    • @pnjodaro
      @pnjodaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stagosaurus3181 yeah but the movie is made by the "story" which the writer weaves. DC has an edge in their writing, and that's the reason they get nominated for Oscars. An example is Joker. That character is written so well that two different people got Best Actor for playing that role. And that too differently! That's great writing right there.
      I am a Marvel fan too but judging by the art and the essence of movie making and writing, I guess DC has better-written meat.

    • @tunebeat3809
      @tunebeat3809 ปีที่แล้ว

      People just want enjoyable stories with fun characters while not dealing with radical politics.

    • @StarlightTrail3
      @StarlightTrail3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many stories were unworthy due to the ideas behind them. Ideas create stories, execution draws it out.

  • @papo3887
    @papo3887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A good concept can't carry bad story structure. A good writer could write an engaging story about 2 kids playing in a park, or a guy commuting in rush hour to work.
    Storytelling at its heart is making the ordinary sound extraordinary.

    • @StarlightTrail3
      @StarlightTrail3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That sounds pretentious and dull. Something describing something completely normal in the most interesting way possible doesn't make it inherently interesting. Why not just... try to write about something interesting? It's not that easy, but it should be that simple. Of course, what is considered interesting is subjective to the person.

  • @mistingwolf
    @mistingwolf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Wow... I just tried to generalize my book and it came out as "Girl with wings and transformation abilities fights in a war against a Hitler-esque villain who has a species complex."

    • @infiniteworlds5
      @infiniteworlds5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sounds cool.

    • @commanderjae9888
      @commanderjae9888 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That actually sounds pretty awesome.

    • @LaylaLestrange
      @LaylaLestrange 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Misting Wolf It sounds intrtesting enough to pick it up from the two hundred books in a store and check the back and read the first page. That's the best compliment when you have so many options

    • @Froggiefairy
      @Froggiefairy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Id read that

    • @XenaBe25
      @XenaBe25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds like the X-men ;D

  • @Katherine_The_Okay
    @Katherine_The_Okay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    this makes me feel a lot better. when i describe the story i'm working on to friends, it comes across as a mish-mash of disparate tropes that make me feel like no one could possibly be interested in. but in terms of the individual characters involved in the story, and the feelings they find themselves struggling with, i do hope to make it something special. even if i never publish it officially, it would be good to know one day that people (even just two or three of them) were actually interested in the exploits of Maia, James, and company....

    • @bigmo8231
      @bigmo8231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My name is actually maia and i have the same problem! I hope you got somewhere with your book ❤️ on my 6th chapter

    • @Katherine_The_Okay
      @Katherine_The_Okay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigmo8231 Hello, Maia! Alas, I am still plugging away at my story due to real life being... real life lol, but I do plan on working on it until it gets done. It didn't help that I had to do a metric wikipedia's worth of research (none of which actually involved wikipedia as anything more than a list of potential references) before I felt remotely comfortable actually diving in to the meat of the story. I now have two bookshelves in my living room devoted to folklore and rural life in mid 19th-century Britain, and also quite a few books on my kindle about the same topics.
      Fortunately/unfortunately/weirdly/serendipitously, while I was doing all that research, my fairies morphed from a scary unknown menace lurking just out of sight to a metaphor for trauma in the lives of the protagonists. Not sure if that's the last few years showing, or just a natural extension of portraying fairies they way they were actually seen in the 1800s. Probably both, but it did necessitate a good deal of rewriting 😅

  • @rebelinthehighcastle
    @rebelinthehighcastle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you. This video popped up at the right time for me. I have a pedestrian idea with a finale that I’m excited about. Now the challenge I’m working on is how to orient the novel to make the finale emotionally and intellectually satisfying.

  • @Celise
    @Celise 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm not even writing a book but I love watching your videos from a reader's perspective.

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    @hardikkasat256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @yapdog
    @yapdog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Y'know, EB? With the crap going on in the country today, coming to watch your shining face and informative videos put a smile on this old dude's face. Literally. Thank you :^)

  • @C4ptainRedbeard
    @C4ptainRedbeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know most of your videos have been out for years, but I just discovered you and all your freely given wisdom. Thank you so much!

  • @rajamohammed8683
    @rajamohammed8683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think traditional publishing is important to a writer and the editing process is very well done in traditional publishing which is a good tradition. The form and ideas of publishing has been through changes over the years and they are signs of growth in literary life.
    Even if you can't get 100 percent satisfaction, you should keep on doing it. Writing is a puzzle to me that gives me some results and i surely like to keep on writing. It's a best medicine for loneliness. And it would be bestest if my writing earns money along with good reviews which of course i aim for. Writing pays off one way or another.

  • @cleopatra308
    @cleopatra308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Using your own excitement as a metric about plot points is a great idea. Thanks

  • @jehovasabettor9080
    @jehovasabettor9080 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Novel ideas are paramount for hard fiction sci-fi. Those usually not good without a really original idea, but these sort of books do not sell well because they target nearly non-existent audience. Take Stanislav Lem, Greg Igan or Olaf Stapledon - their ideas are amazing, but you probably didn't hear much about them.

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you. I admit I haven't heard of Olaf Stapledon, but if you put him next to Egan and Lem, I'll have to check him NOW.

    • @snowangelnc
      @snowangelnc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Writing for a niche audience still does have it's value though. There are those that aren't into the more generic material out there that's intended to appeal to the widest audience possible. They appreciate having content written for them too, even if it's not as much.

  • @ivordavies2976
    @ivordavies2976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I am writing my first novel and it was like when I was learning to weld ..I made a mess at first but it gets better as you go along , now I can weld in any position so hopefully I can write any sort of story in time.. I have an idea about a magic lorry

    • @urorazbojnik5678
      @urorazbojnik5678 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, started today actually, been wanting to write it for awhile now ^^

  • @wellsfiction711
    @wellsfiction711 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent video Ellen. I needed to hear this. I'm figuring out how to create a novel and what goes along with that. All ideas have been done, yet it's up to the writer to make his or her idea worth reading. I'll continue to work on the plot, outline and all that good stuff.

  • @charlesyanni5195
    @charlesyanni5195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video, about high concept plots versus not high concept plots, was particularly good! Plot points to test our plots? Why we like those individual points? Fantastic!

  • @160p2GHz
    @160p2GHz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You seriously give the best advice. Thank you so much. This is one I'll be sure to share. So many of my writer friends are worried their premise isn't original and I have such a hard time articulating why that doesn't matter but you do so beautifully here. (Also appropriate for when friends come to me with "a story" idea haha)

  • @guitarovich
    @guitarovich 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Thank you! You're advice is really helpful :)

  • @yellowsubmersible
    @yellowsubmersible 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ellen, this was an incredibly helpful video! Thank you!
    I'd love to hear you talk more about what a high-concept novel is - I haven't heard that terminology before.

  • @sashah1454
    @sashah1454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this really encouraging. it helps me keep going when I feel something's not working

  • @jessbackbay6220
    @jessbackbay6220 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another outstanding video - this is the best advice for new writers I have found in weeks of research.

  • @jeremiahboor
    @jeremiahboor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Totally agree, by the way, it's the quality not the idea.

  • @lev8218
    @lev8218 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    It doesn't matter how brilliant the book is, all the publisher wants to know is: 'Will it sell?'.

    • @Alexaflohr
      @Alexaflohr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That explains why literally every presidential candidate writes a book that ends us being published.

  • @adrl1797
    @adrl1797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You made me realize that I really just have a really really bad execution of my idea. 4 years and I just figured it out now :-:

  • @BGSKG83
    @BGSKG83 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your video. It made me think about two of my novel ideas one of them I'd half forgotten. I've felt they both were great ideas. I'll just need better plot-lines in order to really get them going. As I do work on them the plot-lines grow. I just need to find the same passion about them, as I had when I first thought about them(actually dreamed a couple of scenes from them and they grew from there) As NaNoWriMo is getting closer my mind is starting to roam with story ideas again, but I keep returning to those two especially.

  • @guddefulgaming
    @guddefulgaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    HOly moly, i loove this channel. This video gives me the motivation to pick up my writing again. So hard to write next to university, but now i am willing to put in the energy it takes. And again: great vids! Kinda bingewatching them atm :D

  • @petscraftsandwonderfulthin1279
    @petscraftsandwonderfulthin1279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another great video Ellen. This sounds like my novel has hope!

  • @dollyspine
    @dollyspine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for the tips! I don’t have a high concept for the book I’m writing, I now need A. The wow factor and B a good plot and C I need to develop and plan my main characters. I just got the idea to write it a few days ago

  • @taw2377
    @taw2377 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think, too, a lot of people have these ideas for novels that may actually fit short stories better. Some ideas aren't really grand enough, I guess, to call for a novel, so you can get bored as you're reading or there's a lot of filler. Perhaps more writers should ask themselves if it works better as a novel or short story, because sometimes in short stories you can more easily get your point across and make it more interesting in less amount of time.

  • @LeeAnneRMT
    @LeeAnneRMT 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great explanation and so true. We have all read books that had a great premise but then fell flat on the plot. We have also read books that had a premise that shouldn't have been exciting but the plot, characters and writing carried it through into a great book.

  • @SolofAvaldor
    @SolofAvaldor 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you said what you said because I agree. I've often said that ideas are easy and it's execution that makes a difference, not just for writing but for almost any creative endeavor. I would've been surprised that somebody had a formula for great ideas versus bad ideas, it's just not that simple.

  • @fbartolo
    @fbartolo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad you're back!

  • @sierrahargrave
    @sierrahargrave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i agree, even if you have a crazy cool unique premise, the plot still matters the most. i’ve read lots of books whose premise caught my attention and they’re execution disappointed me

  • @CJB31
    @CJB31 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never written a novel before but have had the idea for one for many years. I have recently began trying to actually put my idea on paper and write it. Thank you for this video I enjoyed it

  • @desertblade1874
    @desertblade1874 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are somewhat generalised, but I still find them very helpful and to the point, thank you Ellen for helping me become a better writer

  • @cemo255
    @cemo255 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is actually pretty good advice. Now that I think of it a lot of the books that have fallen flat for me were ones that had a really good premise but no idea of a prompt. But the ones that succeeded had scenes that I was looking forward to writing before I even began writing.

  • @LesterSuggs
    @LesterSuggs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The very best writing advice

  • @MisterPlumbobGames
    @MisterPlumbobGames 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say I love your videos Ellen. You always deliver your points in a way that is not only insightful, but really motivates me to open that word document and get working on my own project!

  • @diego2112gaming
    @diego2112gaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Let's see:
    Interesting betrayal? Check
    Odd character arc? Check
    Journey to the Underworld? Orpheus got nothing on me, baby!
    Gods that can be KILLED? Immortals can be made mortal, you know...
    Ground-Up magic system? Sanderson, love your Mistborn, but this ain't flaring tin!
    Now, concept? Uh... BBEG is going to overthrow the gods, and literally the only person who could stop him was assassinated. A new Heir to the Sword must rise. Or ya know, some other D&Desq bullshit like that.
    Honestly, I'm more into the world building, and after nearly 20 years, it's a damn nice world (or so the players I GM for tell me).
    No, I'm not writing my group's adventure into a book. I put them in my book's world to test it.

  • @_firstlight
    @_firstlight 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just stumbled upon your channel and I am obsessed! Your videos are not only informative but also on point - you've got a new subscriber

  • @LadyOfTheEdits
    @LadyOfTheEdits 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think my novel idea is a good idea because it's what I think is good.
    I write more for myself than readers.
    I write for fun and put just as much effort as one who writes for a living

  • @Alexaflohr
    @Alexaflohr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I certainly needed this advice. When migrating from tabletop games to novels, I have ran into the problem that my worldbuilding is amazing but my plot is lackluster. I'm getting better at that, but boy is that an uphill battle.

  • @bandit_of_trash
    @bandit_of_trash 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I know you're a novel editor, but do you perhaps have any advice on how to figure out if a story would be better suited for a screenplay instead of a novel?

    • @chloecronkright6656
      @chloecronkright6656 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MyNameIsNotLinda, I don't know a lot, but I am an (unprofessional) actress, as well as a constant reader. If something has a lot of dialogue, and even a lot of action, a screenplay creates a way for the the dialogue,action, and descriptions in a organized separate way. For example a novel might have a sentence be like: "Hello!" Said Billie, running down the halls. Billie was wearing a blue sweatshirt that day.
      "Hi!" Martha replied.
      While in a screenplay the characters custom description would be separate, and the actions and dialogue would be split up like:
      Billie: (running down the halls)
      Hello!
      Martha: Hi!
      Another thing is again if the dialogue is the main focus and is very intense I would suggest a screenplay, to make it more organized without all the he said, she asked, etc. I hope that helped and like I said I don't know a lot

    • @IchibanOjousama
      @IchibanOjousama 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Chloe Cronkright that‘s what you learn in school, they weren‘t asking for that, they were asking for real advice.

    • @cSedx00022
      @cSedx00022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IchibanOjousama Actually the person gave some pretty good advice. These are a few key things to look for if you’re wondering whether a story is more suited for screenplay or novel.

  • @markpriore3151
    @markpriore3151 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ellen, just wanna say that yours and Tim Hickson's videos have been very helpful to me, so thank you very much, keep doing what you do.

  • @orsettomorbido
    @orsettomorbido 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A problem of mine is that i read the premise (on the back of the book, usually) and i put down the book because i find that it is an overused idea.
    I will try to go on and think more about it before putting down the book :P

    • @annadoring84
      @annadoring84 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      orsettomorbido what I often do is to read one of the first pages and decide whether or not I like the writing style

    • @orsettomorbido
      @orsettomorbido 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, i should start doing this! Thanks :3

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What I call "the first page test".

  • @iridescentdemon
    @iridescentdemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just recently came up with a plot that fits the themes and the mc's arc! Still a lot of details to hash out but I think its a good base

  • @yarazam4358
    @yarazam4358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you actually gave me a really good idea to my novel, i was writing about a girl who has a wonderful life until i watched this video, i realized that the story is so boring, so i decided to make a dramatic drop in the characters life, thank you so much, and please tell me if this is a good idea.

  • @ArcasDevlin
    @ArcasDevlin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    A girl about to be sold off into slavery, along with her younger sister, by her only remaining relative, (that she knows of,) tries to repay his debts, hoping that she can cease or at least delay his decision if she proves herself useful enough. She does this by attempting hunt a large wolf that has supposedly been murdering livestock. During her attempt, she is instead attacked by a bear and saved by the “wolf” who turns out not to be a wolf so much as a creature of unknown origin who looks most similar to a wolf, one that can speak as a human but cannot live among them. Both caught in negative situations - him being hunted and wanting to lead them away from the real wolves that raised him, (but not wanting to be alone,) and her fearing for the safety of herself and her sister, the three leave the lands together, discovering their pasts - what happened to her family and what he truly is - along the way.
    Basically, I wanted to write a beauty and the beast story, and this is where it lead.

    • @latronqui
      @latronqui 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sarah Bonson I'd read it!

    • @InvisiblerApple
      @InvisiblerApple 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would also read that! (it's original enough too)
      I've wanted to do something like that with Rumplestiltskin in a disease outbreak (basically Rumplestiltskin would be a company wanting to be the first to sell a cure for the disease, and knowing who's espionaging with her would be huge leverage in getting her freedom from a government that imprisoned her because it thinks she's immune)

    • @MT-kx7ff
      @MT-kx7ff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sarah Bonson I'd read the CRAP out of that. Every. Last. Page.

    • @abinyxx
      @abinyxx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That happened to me. The wolf part. There's literally a demon inside of me that I knew would come since I was 5. It did when I was about 11. I'm now 18. It's hard to explain. There's this entity inside of my head that appears in meditation as a wolf. But he isn't a wolf. Idk what he is. He's lonely. I feel his loneliness. He helps me

    • @aliegouw3490
      @aliegouw3490 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THIS STORY DESERVES TO BE PUBLISHED.

  • @michaelscott5917
    @michaelscott5917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say thank you for these videos! I watched a lot of the while writing my first novel and because of it the publisher excepted my manuscript the first time it was sent it. Keep up the good work!

  • @TheForgeofManyThings
    @TheForgeofManyThings 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always love your videos, somehow they manage to be relevant to my thoughts/worries at the time.

  • @sarahmatthews5878
    @sarahmatthews5878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost at 100k! Come back Ellen. We need you.

  • @keenbay
    @keenbay 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I once read an e-book on writing written by Holly Lisle. There was a section/chapter called 99 stories for a dollar or something close to that. I apologize for butchering it. The idea was exactly as you described. A writer is hard-pressed to come up with that one story that's never been written, it's the writers own delivery of the story. It was and is helpful advice for me as an immature/amateur writer. Ellen, I just stumbled on to your channel, thank you for all of your advice and insight. Cheers.

  • @amandatyler
    @amandatyler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was super helpful! Also, I see that copy of House of Leaves back there, what an excellent book!

  • @rachelthompson9324
    @rachelthompson9324 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Concept is an idea developed, premise is when the concept is infused or illustrated by character. Theme is the background noise or back drop that tells the reader what the story means--theme is meaning behind the concept.

  • @sylve2474
    @sylve2474 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for this, I actually found it really helpful to be reminded to find the plot, many of my books I do, but in a few all I have is the world concept figured out, so it is great to be reminded of where I can focus when I can't figure out what to figure out.

  • @tzisorey
    @tzisorey 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever done a video on how to approach and pitch a publisher? Or the pro's and con's of self-publishing? Not really editing issues, but tangentially related, so thought I'd ask. I didn't see anything obvious in your video list.

  • @cuthbertsboots5733
    @cuthbertsboots5733 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your videos are very helpful and well thought-out. Would you ever consider taking submissions from viewers just to do a quick review of the first few pages in a video? Shadiversity did something like this if you're familiar with him.

  • @js357s
    @js357s 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure I speak for many by saying thank you for sharing your knowledge and insight with us. It is very helpful and informative.

  • @Jemini4228
    @Jemini4228 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you give us some advice on how to turn a premise into a plot please? X

  • @jchannelty
    @jchannelty 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the amount of videos you've have been putting out

  • @tedweber1119
    @tedweber1119 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do think having something original to say makes a book more compelling. My advice is to make a long list of ideas as they occur and pick the most interesting or resonant one to spend the next year or so working on, provided the idea can be turned into a workable plot.

  • @katbloo3333
    @katbloo3333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic explanations. Thank you so much.

  • @debdfw7720
    @debdfw7720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. Not something I had thought about. Good information.

  • @charliedawson4877
    @charliedawson4877 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently I was going through a dusty old suitcase I found under the bed in the spare room. Something of particular interest to me was a pouch containing musky, yellow paper. A couple of decades old. It was advice on how to write short stories. There was some, interesting stuff (have a conversation with your protagonist every breakfast, lunch and Dinner) but also alot of the stuff in these videos. Some messages are just universal.

  • @sirnesbit1285
    @sirnesbit1285 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The world is overrun by horrible creatures called “Tenebris.” They are skeletal, deformed humanoid beasts with unmatched strength.
    Bright light can fend them off, and a special light created with instruction from an ancient text can kill them. It’s not known how they were exactly created, as history doesn’t go back that far. However, it’s rumored that they were created by an ancient being, jealous of the prosperity of humanity. The ancient being is come to known as, “Inunis.”
    Our hero is named “Spero.” He is raised in a semi-wealthy village in the 1400’s. His main company is his brother, “Symeon.”
    Spero is at first confident from birth, and Symeon is at first honest and kind.
    However as time goes on, the fathers’ abuse has a negative impact on Symeon and Spero alike. Symeon is affected most due to his blindness. “Weakness” as his father called it. Symeon was to be shipped off to a nearby Blacksmith for ten years to “make something of his sorry self.”
    Spero was being trained in combat by his soldier father, in hopes of him one day becoming a fierce warrior for all to fear. Spero semi-loved his father, unlike Symeon, who hated him. Because of the pain he had, Symeon began to use a text he stole during the beginning of the great rupture (when the continent they reside in became split into two over disputes of oil) to draw on otherworldly forces. This causes a lust for control later on that Symeon lacked as a child.
    However, the town’s oil supply is mysteriously cut off by their capital kingdom. The villagers send a messager to ask for more at noon, lest they be swallowed up by nightfall. However, by 4:00 the villager hasn’t returned. (The reason they don’t abandon the village and look for refuge immediately is because they are very far away from other civilizations. Their best chance of survival is to wait for more supplies) They start leaving in all directions, afraid of the night to come. Spero’s family prepares, and leaves as well, never to return.
    Spero and Symeon get no answer as to what’s going on. They get worried, as their parents begin to panic more and more as nightfall draws closer. Eyes begin to dash around the darkness, and the families walk turns into a sprint. They light their last torch, which will only last a couple hours, and fight through the horde.
    The father sacrifices himself to save them, and the mother gets a severe injury. They make it to their Uncle and Aunts’ cottage, and they are hastily pulled inside.
    The image of his father’s death at the creatures’ hands is enough to scar Spero, resulting in him growing a deep fear that torments his soul.
    Symeon, instead of mourning or crying, dives deeper into his dark gifts. This lasts until almost 5 years later, when Spero leaves. Spero leaves to calm his fears, and bring peace to the continent. All so nobody else will have to face what he faced.
    Symeon joins him in order to keep him safe, for his brother is one of the only things he loves, stopping him from being consumed by his magic. Magic which stems from the Inunis...
    As the story progresses, many people join their cause against the merciless king, Solus. The people including Malog, king of the Libertia Empire; Nesha, a energetic adventurer on a quest of revenge against a different enemy; Cavas, a bounty hunter who wishes to provide for and keep his son safe; and many soldiers and wayward vagabonds/adventurers, who wish to claim glory and peace alike. One day, Spero wishes to bring unity and peace to the continent. And just maybe, destroy the Tenebris scourge alike.
    Spero is driven by the desire for safety for him and everyone around him, and peace from the scourge of the Tenebris.
    Symeon is driven by a desire for control over his life, to be able to control the safety of who he loves.
    - - -
    How is this for a story?

  • @riddhimadas7023
    @riddhimadas7023 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to keep the motivation alive ? Like I'm writing this book, and I have the entire idea, plot everything in my mind and I've even started writing it.! But I know me being me , I'll get addicted to a different book (since I'm a crazy book addict) or will get busy with studies and loose all motivation and then a book, which might have, not saying it will be awesome or something, but it might have been good , just leaves me. And even I let it go. Does this makes sense ?

  • @emeraldryder3496
    @emeraldryder3496 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome because I have what I think is a really cool and different premise but whenever I try thinking up plot, it ends up being a man vs self conflict and since I don't read a lot of those stories, I don't really know how to conduct it... but still, thanks for the tips! I have a lot to consider

  • @skylineb28
    @skylineb28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi this was so good : D Truly helpful and gave me lots to think about. Thanks!

  • @Lillyspurs
    @Lillyspurs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos, they are so informative, and you explain everything so easy. Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @ashirahelat4749
    @ashirahelat4749 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where were you all my life
    What a breath of fresh air and sunshine🌞

  • @theunholychildofnegativity5055
    @theunholychildofnegativity5055 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Okay so, I need a lil' help.
    Is it a bad idea if I wrote a novel about this chick that is haunted by a demon, but the demon is actually pretty nice, and writes notes on to her mirrors to remind her that she needs to meet someone or she needs tp return a book.
    Does it sound stupid?
    But right now I don't know why the demon is good.
    I am still trying to figure it out.

    • @AnnaLiddell42
      @AnnaLiddell42 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Sounds quite interesting, actually it's something I would love to read!
      I guess it depends on the tone you're aiming for, whether it has romantic vibes, or a lighthearted adventure-comedy, or even something darker more into the mystery/horror genere. The plot points must have some sort of relation to the sensations you want to provoke in the reader.
      Not sure if it helps much but suggestions from the top of my head: the demon is kind because he (or she/it, I suck at pronouns) fell in love, or maybe he's manipulating her and it's not actually nice, maybe he's just really lonely or bored and wants to "explore" the human world (kinda like death note?) or she's the one really lonely and made it all up. Maybe she's half demon and doesn't know it yet, maybe her mother was sick or got send some place far away and made some (perhaps unintentional) pact with the demon to keep her daughter safe while she's gone.
      I hope you find the inspiration you need because it's a cool premise. Good luck!! :)

    • @theunholychildofnegativity5055
      @theunholychildofnegativity5055 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anahí Nuñez Acosta
      Okay those ideas sound pretty good.

    • @ArcasDevlin
      @ArcasDevlin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you need to watch "Welcome to Hell". It's a short on youtube, made as a thesis film.

    • @latronqui
      @latronqui 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anahí Nuñez Acosta I really like the mother idea

    • @PhyreI3ird
      @PhyreI3ird 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think as a comedy that would totally work! :D
      You should decide what is actually best for it in terms of length though, because of course that changes everything in how you structure and pace it.

  • @OddJobOriginal
    @OddJobOriginal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Ellen - I found you channel about a week ago and I've listened to most of your content while rennovating a house!
    Do you have any recommendations for online writing communities to join?
    Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @leonardoives7076
    @leonardoives7076 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your advice is incredible. Thank you.

  • @julliusblackwell6239
    @julliusblackwell6239 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed your insight on this topic

  • @noellerutledge8789
    @noellerutledge8789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay I know I'm not the only one getting the Masterclass Ads so I'ma talk about the Neil Gaiman one real quick.
    He said that writing a novel is like driving through a dark forest with one headlight out, you can't see very far in front of you, but that's never been my experience. In fact, that's my problem, I see clear to the end of a story basically from it's conception, but what do I do in the meantime while I write towards that end? Anyone else like this?

  • @redlion6939
    @redlion6939 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so helpful to me, mate. Thanks a lot.

  • @rachelthompson9324
    @rachelthompson9324 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plot is the structure whereby a character is compelled to reach a goals due to stakes ( goal, motivation, conflict) and must venture into new directions when plot point's deliver new information or stakes or roadblock thus changing the game ,that is,
    the character's needs and plan to accomplish the goal's resolution.

  • @lajimolala5647
    @lajimolala5647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Read the last paragraph first before continuing:
    Ok my story I’m writing rn is there is 2 lands of angels and devils and the angels r white with white wings and the devils r ofc red with red wings and they have wars between each other and the devils always win so the angels think they’re ‘strong’ but they never r, they just care about attacking and having wars and they don’t care about taking care of their environment and land and the main character is the son of the mother and father king and queen of angels, the sons and daughters of kings and queens always have ‘special power’ that’s why they’re special but the main character didn’t know that because the parents thought that he might go to the devil land and try to fight off and stuff but also he wasn’t allowed to go outside or to school... but he had this one friend which HE THOUGHT it was his cousin but this friend is actually not, he came from the devils land (he’s the son of the mother and queen also) to know more about his story and his weaknesses and stuff so they could kill him and become even stronger but then the main character saw his dairy and it said EVERYTHING about him he was suspicious and told him but he came with excuses and it kinda worked out but the
    Main character decided to hide this dairy to him cause he was still suspicious and the book looked a bit weird (cause it was made in the devils land so everything there made is quite different) but he didn’t know that so later a paper came to his house by his window and he was like I’ll read it and it said that in the devils land there is a place where they take the angels from this land to there because they use a thing to put on them so they can control them and they send some of them back to the angels land to destroy their environment and some stay to make the population higher and it said TO NOT TELL ANYONE so the main character felt special and the paper also LOOKED like one of the pages of the dairy (they had the same design) so he knew that the devils sent the paper to him specifically that’s why he felt special and he was really suspicious about his friend but didn’t say anything and decided to tell him cause he thought that all of this links together with him so he agreed (but he didn’t want to because his parents always told him to never come back with anyone from the angels land cause they don’t want them to see their bad environment) and he always had bad connections with his parents and wanted to make them proud for the first time so he didn’t know what to do (he tried to pretend he’s scared and stuff) but nothing worked and they went (WELL ACTUALLY they didn’t went together because that friend went to his ACTUAL cousin to replace him so the main character and the REAL cousin go together because that friend was really worried (he was shocked about that paper) (Btw he sleeps with his real cousins house, because he told them before if you don’t let me sleep here and tell u what to do then I’ll do something really bad u’ll regret (killing basically) and they knew he came from the devils so they got scared easily and accepted. SO the main character and the real cousin dressed like devils and basically they went (the parents of the real cousin didn’t know that he went there because the ‘friend’ and the cousin spoke secretly about it) so the friend dressed and acted like the real cousin but the king and queen were SO SCARED because their son has been gone but the parents of the cousin know now or they thought they knew that that devil had now gone and they can tell the king and queen EVERYTHING right in-front of the actual devil what a twist lol and they knew they’re gone to the devils land cause they found the dairy and the paper in his room so they went without telling anyone else, the queen and kind told the other parents and ‘son’ to not come cause it’s dangerous and stuff but they refused and they all went. (Btw the devil didn’t kill them cause he wasn’t strong like the son of the king and queen of angels cause devil didn’t have a strong connection with his parents so his powers weren’t strong and he was also SO SCARED as hell and didn’t want to make things worse, anyways when they all met the real cousin shouted ‘DEVIL’ at the devil and everyone was confused but that devil changed to an actual devil and started fighting off and it got all action and big crowd started forming so more people joined the fight and the angels were losing and the queen and king were quite old so they went on the floor feeling really weak especially after a big hit made by the ‘friend’ well it’s not a friend now lol, the other family of the cousin were younger but they didn’t get hit badly cause everyone was focusing on the king and queen and their son but they still got on the floor too , so the main character shouted ‘NOOOOO’ and everyone became silent cause they thought the king and queen died so the main character was crying over them and suddenly he became so huge and powerful because he had the powers remember? But he didn’t know that so he started fighting off and was doing well, some were running off cause they were scared, some were fighting with him, and he was doing well but then the king and queen of the devils came and used their strong powers and now he gotten really weak and started falling and loosing but then all of a sudden a girl became so huge and powerful too from the crowd!!! (This girl is actually the main’s character sister!!!!) but the main character never knew he had a sister cause his parents never said anything about his sister so she started fighting off and stuff and she helped the boy and they both did really well so everyone was running away but the king and queen of devils said ‘YOU’RE LUCKY THIS TIME’ and it’s only them now; the parents were so happy about her but they were really weak too the other parents of the cousin and not too bad actually btw the ‘friend’ which is the devil didn’t get to be huge because he didn’t have strong connection with his parents so his parents were so mad at him now they know everything about the devils land. So the sister and the main character went to that place which controls people like I said and it was a simple switch to turn every control of them off and it was easy for them although of a lot of guards but look how strong they r so it was easy, but when they came back to take the parents back to the angels land.... they were gone....
    the story never tells where there went because it stays a mystery. Only if I make a second book lol. Anyways btw the sister actually wrote the paper and sent it to him because she wanted him to come because of his power but she didn’t write that they’re weak and stuff because she don’t want him to come confident and may loose... but she expected all of this and btw she was in the devils land because before when they were babies , she’s older than him in about 5-8 years idk but when the devils came to attack they kidnapped some people so they came to king and queen’s house but they stayed safe only the sister because the sister had he own room cause she was old enough and the rest were in the same room so they locked theirselves and hided and the devils didn’t come in, so that’s why the sister is in the devils area in that place where they control the people’s mind and they knew they got one daughter from the son and queen but they didn’t know which one she was cause she got mixed up with the rest but they didn’t care cause she wouldn’t have a strong connection with them anymore and wouldn’t know how to use her power in the future that’s what they thought but know they learnt something else and that’s if they have a huge sacredness and anxiety and stuff then she can get her power and her parents also told her about it earlier but they didn’t to the main character, they were so scared they didn’t even let him out of the house . So they went to angels land again everyone congratulated them they were proud but deep inside they were also depressed about their parents been missing.. and now he’s allowed to go to school and outside like a normal person and the end
    Jeez I spoke a lot 😅 I really hope anyone can read all of this if it’s good enough or not I’m only 14 and English is not my first language so idk how I’m gonna do quite well in writing that’s what is scaring me the most , but the story idea is it good enough? I would really appreciate anyone who would read all of this and tell me ur opinion 🥺

  • @ryannixon4138
    @ryannixon4138 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been working on my premise and how it affects the story. Thanks for the help!

  • @rodee1671
    @rodee1671 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is exactly what I needed today. Thanks!

  • @eporcheetahka5086
    @eporcheetahka5086 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would Dinotopia be considered high concept? It was a big thing back in the day. Can you also do a video on books that we're well written but not well received even though everything about them was great? An analysis would be interesting thank you for your time