EXPLANATION: Billy Beane felt like he failed in his life to achieve a legacy with his proffessional career & himself. That's why he never sat inside the stafium to watch the team play, he felt like a bad omen. What he really "failed" to see was how special he was, he hit a homerun in his life, with his daughter, baseball etc. But he just never seen it.
I like your explanation but I'm pretty sure it's a little more simple and he is just saying it is a metaphor for the season that had just ended (without winning the world series). Even though they didn't win it all like he wanted, he accomplished something great. Of course this is just my opinion but this is how I interpreted it.
@@Saboo27 The impact was greater than winning a World Series. They built a post season team for a fraction of the price that other teams did. What they did couldn't be ignored. It would change how every other team functioned.
@@Saboo27 IIRC, this was supposed to go while he was deliberating the Red Sox offer. He's stuck his nose out to consider a better and brighter opportunity in a storied franchise with legit ability to make a world series winning team... and he was shuffling away from it. And this was the counter argument - he just hit a homerun, but he was too terrified to take the next step and scrambling back to the comfort of first base.
has to be the best sport movie. probably because its not about a player's rise to fame but about a struggling manager creating a team of champions. i dont even watch baseball.
It fails to mention that the team had Miguel Tejada winning the MVP and Barry ZIto winning the Cy Young Award. The only time that either player would achieve either of these. The 1 through 3 starting pitchers on that A's team was one of the best in baseball and that wasn't mentioned. Eric Chavez was one of the best third basemen in baseball: not mentioned. Carlos Pena was trash that season and they talk him up. The premise of the movie was that they had calculated how many more runs they needed that season, and they were trying to find those runs very cheaply. Tejada's, Zito's, and Hudson's production went up drastically. Players already on the roster over achieving Jonah Hill's initial calculation played a larger role than the movie gave credit.
I think you're not really thinking about this wrong. The "initial calculation" is just an oversimplified metaphor used to explain the role their number based approach played in their success. And it's not like this is the only example they use. Remember, this movie (like any movie nowadays) is playing to the LCD, this isn't exactly meant for hardcore sports fans. And sure, IRL, luck did play a part in their success, but it's not like thats the only good season they had, and multiple factors played into their success that season, and into the future.
My favorite part of this scene is seeing the opposing players encouraging him around the bases. Even the catcher gives him a friendly swat when he reaches home. They were genuinely laughing with him, not at him. The first baseman is my favorite.
I got lucky and Hit a home run in little league, and it hadn't happened in that league in like 6 years. Small town (1500) and we were playing another team from our town. My buddy playin SS congratulated me otw by and my buddy playin center field met me after home plate with the ball. Pretty cool moment we all remember nearly 25 years later
@@samhansen6320 wow dude, that’s a timeless story. Good on ya mate!! Although I’m hindsight, I’m now thinking this is a plot to a movie, maybe sandlot?
This little story really gets to me for some reason. I feel like we all need to see someone who puts in the effort, is scared that they failed ... but actually succeeded beyond expectations.
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Coming from the UK. Never watched a baseball game and don't understand the rules. What is the point/message of this clip?
THE POINT IS (for those who haven't picked up on it) ..... even though Billy didn't put a team together that could go the distance for a World Series win..... He accomplished something much greater without realizing it ....... He spent the least money to field a team which won 20 consecutive games (an MLB record) and a team which did better on paper than the league's most expensive team, the NY Yankees..... it was a phenomenal accomplishment
True story, I stopped at 2nd Base after my first HR in a High School game as a ninth grader. 2nd Baseman told me it was a HR but I thought it must have been a Ground Rule Double. I had never hit a HR before so I wasn’t expecting it. I wouldn’t leave the base because I thought he had the ball and would tag me out. Ump came over and said “Home Run kid”. I went on to hit 20 more home runs in high school. Never got over that first one though. Total surprise. 😂
I'm 60 years old now and I only played one year of little league ball when I was 13. At the time it was a nightmare for me. I got picked on a lot and the coach didn't spend any time on me. (His son, of course, got all of it.) I was the kid that only played the minimum two innings while stuck out in right field. By BA was .145. It's funny how I think about that season almost every week since.
I know nothing about baseball and have no real desire to know anything but I watched this film all the way through and was mesmerized , an absolutely fantastic movie that I am so glad I saw.
The movie really should've talked more about Jeremy Brown. The book had a whole chapter about him and how because of his size he wasn't expecting to even get drafted, then the A's took him in the first round.
@@martinlee4558 now that's a success story. Let the millionaires keep their rings. Working as a coach who makes a difference in the lives of young adults...that's real success. Another home run by Jeremy Brown.
And he was a BIG FAT BUST! why are you romanticizing him? Lol funny. Drafted way out of order. Complete WASTED pick. Billy got wayy too full of himself started doing crap like this.
I love this metaphor: going for the second base is winning the league. The A’s didn’t win at this first attempt, just as Jeremy stumbles and falls at his. Billy is crushed by that. But getting that team together with no more than scraps, giving abandoned players a chance, and winning 20 games in a row (making them legendary), that’s the home-run. This is what Peter tries show him: he already hit the home run, even though he didn’t make it to second base in one go.
yeah, are you ready for this! it had 3 different DIRECTORS! the first director wanted to make the movie like the movie "THE BOYS OF SUMMER". (that why you see the interview scenes as in "THE BOYS OF SUMMER"). he got fired! the 2nd director got into it and quit. the 3rd made it one of the greatest movies ever!!!
Samuel Moulds Not to mention the fact that it went through two different iterations of the screenplay by two different writers before Aaron Sorkin came along and fixed it all.
The fact the ball went 60 feet over the fence is absolutely insane. I don't think people understand the true measure of how far that is over the fence. You have to have raw power to do that kind of thing.
Add in the fact what the dimensions are, and you get a sense of how hard Jeremy hit that ball: Left Field - 320 ft Left-Center Power Alley - 365 ft Center Field - 405 ft Right-Center Power Alley - 365 ft Right Field - 320 ft
Have you ever had everyone telling you that you were wrong, and that you would fail? So much that every shot you took you always stopped short of claiming your glory because you couldn't see it? That moment when others recognize your success and winning moves is pure and clear joy, and stays with you forever. Don't give up! Keep striving to win!
The emphasis was on Jeremy Brown. This guy wasn't a very good hitter. That's why he is always scared to go to second base, because he was afraid of getting out because he wasn't fast enough. This one time, he was going to go for it, he's going to go for second, he tries, falls down, is completely ashamed and struggles to get back to first. It's romantic because this was the only time he had ever gotten a home run, it was the one time that he decided to face his fear and attempt to go for second.
@@khaos1185 he literally says it’s a metaphor at the end of the scene. And if the guy is fat why would he be on a baseball team if he’s not a good hitter? This dude took the scene as literally as possible and then just added random facts at the end lmao. I doubt that was his first home run or he was a bad hitter, he had an irrational fear of rounding to second based on whatever past experiences he’s had. It’s not a hard scene to understand.
@@currywithstheshotboy3619 The point of the scene is this. Sometimes someone can hit a home run and not even realize it. Peter Brand was making that point to Billy Beane to let him know how much he had achieved and still did not realize it. It was his way of saying - "Don't think you haven't done anything. With the statistical model, you have hit the ball out of the ballpark"!
@@currywithstheshotboy3619 But the beauty of the scene is this - it allows us to draw our own conclusions depending on our situation, state of mind and thought process! Since it is a metaphor, it can practically be anything we want it to be!!
Excellent movie MONEYBALL. It starts with this wonderful quote: "It´s unbelievable how much you don´t know about the game you´ve been playing all yout life." Mickey Mantle.
yeah, Steve Yeager was asked by a reporter, "do you know everything about baseball?" Yeager said, "I have been in baseball for 30years and the day I go to the ballpark and don't learn something new is the day I will quit."
@@SirTylerGolf So the definition of nation is annoyingly subjective. One only needs to ask about what Taiwan should be to get to how political all of it is. The most commonly accepted list is the UN member states list which is 193 recognized nations. However, it is worth noting that FIFA recognizes 211 "national association" members. And not all "national associations" are part of FIFA (though very nearly). I doubt the final total is 240, but I'd be cautious about making too definitive of a declaration. Though what the hell soccer has to do with a comment about baseball and Jon Bois's directorial style I will never know.
My husband and I loved to watch this movie and this was always my favorite scene. I had been an A's fan in the 72, 73, 74 WS sweep. But Neil was a serious Giant's fan and I quickly came around to his way of thinking. We were looking forward to the start of the 2016 season but he passed away right after Thanksgiving 2015. Somehow I think they would be breaking his heart this season. I can't even look to see how bad they are doing LOL I know it's not good but they're still my boys. Peace
This scene finally tells us about Sorkin's idealistic personal philosophy and the real conclusion of Billy's story... that statistics/math/numbers aren't deterministic nor important. That life can be unpredictable, illogical, and romantic, and that's great. Despite an entire film so far being about mathematicians proving stubborn scouts wrong, Sorkin still believes that some decisions aren't rational or mathematically sound and those moments are more important. Beane is going to follow his heart rather than the voices of others and the voices of experts (who would tell him to chase the money and prestige), and he turns down the position with the Red Sox. He finally accepts that it's okay to be what objectively may be seen as a "loser" move (as his daughter sings at the end). Beautiful.
Well, I think like all great writing it can be interpreted in more than one way. I think on it's most basic level, Jonah Hill is telling Pitt's Bean that even though he doesn't realize it, he hit a home run. That despite not getting to the World Series, metaphorically he still hit a home run because of the amount of success they had using saber metrics to manage their team.
@@mobiz711 But... isn't that the only possible interpretation of this? It's literally the intended meaning and the only way this scene makes sense in the context of the movie. That's the metaphor - that it looked and felt like a loss, but was actually a bigger win than they knew. They couldn't win the championship, but what they did changed the entire game. It's beautiful because it juxtaposes the movie's main story about logic and facts overriding intuition. That also is the intended meaning, and why it's such an effective scene. Moneyball works, but you still can never discount unexpected brilliance and heroism against the apparent script. That's why you can't "not be romantic about baseball" - or all of life (which is the REAL metaphor here, and the ultimate subtext of the movie). That's why the scene moves you. It's offering enormous encouragement and hope.
Ken Williamson the other way to look at it is that brown the player depicted was one of the players Beane insisted on drafting over the strenuous objections of his scouting team. And this scene in seeming to emphasize hope actually capture the myopia at the heart of moneyball. This kid clearly can’t play baseball at the mlb level precisely for the reasons the scouts identified. He “got on base” but so what- the emphasis on getting on base only works when you are dealing with a pool of players that have demonstrated the ability to do all the things required of a mlb baseball player. It doesnt really help you analyze amateur players. A player that can’t run to second is useless as a MLB player no matter how much he gets on base.
This is one of the greatest movies ever made, even if you're not a baseball fan. Because it's not a movie about baseball. It's about rebelling against received wisdom and disrupting the stale way of doing things.
This is such a great movie.... it had some credits, but i think people don't understand how good it is. I'am coming back to it often, and always find new things, new scenes of inspiration. It is one of the best movies i have seen about sport. And ... sport is great metaphor of life. There are so much people that are not given credit because they have some flaws - and often we don't realize how much they are important in our lives, till its too late. This is a hidden truth, that u can find from watching this over and over... and how great is that wisdom on the way u treat people - it made me look on many things from a very different angle. This movie really made me a better person.
The ending to this film.. "Billy Beane is still trying to win the last match..." man my eyes couldn't see anything after that.. The most beautiful sports movie I have ever seen.
Stuff like this is what makes baseball, or sports altogether, such a beautiful thing. Seeing that guy who can't go for a double kill a home run, seeing that A's team who was expected to be crap win 20 games in a row and win 103 games on the season, there's something to be said about that. What a wonderful movie this is, I've never enjoyed, and seeked to understand all there is to a movie, so much.
That is such a beautiful scene. One of so many in this excellent movie. Just so many levels to this film. I think Pitt and Jonah Hill should have won Oscars for great acting. So nuanced. Moneyball one of my favourite movies of all time. Thanks for posting these clips ❤️
Lol I don’t get this. The whole point of this movie is that billy realizes that you can’t overcome the disparities in payroll because teams like the Red Sox just adapt those strategies. So what does he do makes his peace with penny pinching owners in the best way possible by becoming an equity partner in the A’s. Ironically the only way to maintain a competitive advantage as a baseball team is in scouting and drafting players- the exact expertise Beane dismisses.
@@dannytallmadge2161 the Oakland A's of 2020 have an extremely robust amateur and professional scouting department. Scott Hatteberg is actually a scout for the A's now. Grady Fuson is back, with Kubota (mr. t ball) at the helm. Paul DePodesta (real life Peter Brand) actually says in quite a lot of interviews that the A's of this era relied heavily on scouting to make sure data was correct - a scout's expertise would filter through the noise - look not simply at the numbers, but HOW they were achieving those numbers. Look at Laureano and Matt Chapman for instance. They were both incredibly talented players passed on by other organizations. The data found these players, and the scouts confirmed that they were the real deal, or vice versa. In reality, scouting and data had always gone hand and hand in the Oakland A's front office.
I'm going to confess something - I don't like baseball. I know nothing about baseball. I've never had a single minute of interest in baseball in my life...and I'm nearly 55 years old. And I LOVED this film.
@@andromedaiscoming185 I would respectfully disagree with you. I believe it would be very hard to make a great story about a topic that the viewer has zero interest in...and get them to truly love it.
Im not a sports guy, but sports movies are some of my favorites. For Love of the Game is one of my favorite movies of all time. And of course A League of Their Own, Bull Durham, The Way Back, Hosiers, Miracle, and ykno.. Rocky. Love all those movies. There's something about a good sports movie that just hits the inspiration bone. I think I could probably get into sports if I actually sat down to watch some games. Baseball and Hockey interest me, but the only time I've ever watched a full game of baseball is when I was in school and we went to a game for a field trip. And even then me and my friends spent most of that time walking around.
Man this scene just makes me love baseball and the movie even more than I had, the movie was great and I highly doubt that record will ever be broken anytime soon, amazing movie especially because I'm a die hard A's fan
Cricket... compared to baseball? Nah. Watch the movie again if you already have. If you haven't, watch it now. There's nothing simple about it. Half the game is science. The other half is athleticism.
Yeah but so is Cricket - look at what bowlers are doing in wind tunnels these days. Look, if I was an American I would be a baseball fan, for sure. But I was born in a cricket-playing nation, so that is what I like. We can argue about the differences all day, but we should really be looking at similarities.
Baseball is very little athleticism or even moving. Much less skillful than boxing/tennis/golf (real sports that dont rely on teams). It's okay if you LIKE those sports or if they are your favorite, but don't be so obtuse and embarrass yourselves over it. Nothing wrong with a game just because it is easier or more simple.
@@ven8107 you obviously don't understand baseball so it obviously requires more skill than you let on. It's true there is skill in every sport. And practice, lots and lots of practice. Pitchers spend hours perfecting the location of their different pitches. Batters spend countless hours hitting in cages tweaking their swing.
I have played baseball all my life. I was fortunate enough to play for a D3 school for 2 years. I had one varsity at bat, never touched the field, but went to every practice, morning weights, and conditioning session. I didn't play this year because it was too much strain and stress with schoolwork and I always got yelled at by my coaches. Every single day I regret not playing. All of that is worth it. "How can you not be romantic about baseball?"
The Oakland Acheivers won 20 straight games in a row, the longest streak in the history of baseball. But they failed to win the championship game, so Billy Beane was devastated. The fact is that despite his team not winning the big one, he still did something amazing without realizing it, just like Jeremy Brown did.
But now modern analytics had supposedly determined that everything he preached was 100% wrong. Getting on base is meaningless to today's scouts. IT is ALL about hitting a home run. Players are ENCOURAGED to swing for the fences regardless of the situation. Bottom of the 9th inning, game tied runner on third with 1 out? 2 strikes? Don't you dare shorten up your swing just to hit a sacrifice fly. Swing for that two run home run so your meaningless run can score too! Sure, you will strike out more than half the time, but go for that home run! After all, you've hit 3 all year! That makes you a power hitter! Don't you see that the other team has the shift on? And if you do, don't you DARE bunt against the shift for the easy game winning hit. You MUST go for the home run. Modern analytics says so! Ratings be damned! Fans LOVE to see strikeouts!"
I never played baseball, didn't really watch it but the occasional highlight on SportsCenter, didn't grow up with it. But it always had something that appealed to me and made me like it. That last line is what made me realize why that was. How can you not be romantic about baseball
My grandfather played for the Phillies before they were the Phillies, in the 1920's. He would have loved this film. I wish he had been alive to see it.
"How can you not be romantic about baseball." Loved that quote when I saw the movie ... then I lived it with the 2019 Nationals. ❤❤❤❤⚾ Baseball really is a great game :)
I LOVED the book. I laughed out loud when the scout munched thoughtfully on a chocolate chip cookie…but the movie did the book justice, and captured the players highlighted in the book, Justice, Brown, Bradford and Hatteberg…didn’t really get after Zito and the pitchers as much. Baseball is romantic and the book/movie capture it so well; the reclamation projects given a second chance on the underdog team! Gold!
being an A's fan (even though this was a conjured up scene), it gives it a little more special meaning to me. Those were some fun times at that field and I've had many fond memories watching these amazing teams play while I was a teen. Now as an adult, I'm glad I can watch them play inspiring ball again too.
William Russell Well aware, but the film guy for the A's really did show Beane a video of Jeremy Brown hitting a home run and tripping over first base.
not only that, but he changed the game and how it is looked at today. even though they failed to win the big one, he still revolutionized baseball analysis and how front offices and scouting departments are run. I think that's what peter was trying to point out.
@@kaindeschain8590 Okay, but it did revolutionize the game, make a terrible team better than it had any right to be, and pave the way for the Red Sox to break the curse in 2004. It's not like it didn't make any waves
@@markmerzweiler909 Billy Beane deserves a lot of credit for his cumulative work in Oakland, but the book and the movie concentrate on the wrong primary reasons for why they were so good in 2002. Their six best players by Wins Above Replacement (Baseball Reference) were 1) Barry Zito 2) Tim Hudson 3) Miguel Tejada 4) Mark Mulder 5) Eric Chavez and 6) Cory Lidle but the book concentrates on guys like Hatteberg and Bradford. If you had to re-write the story on the 2002 A's with a more accurate title, it'd be Moneyball: Why the Amateur Draft Is So Important.
Understanding baseball helped me appreciate the book and the movie. Growing up a Toronto Blue Jays fan made it difficult for me to be sympathetic to the Oakland Athletics. 1989 really hurt. They had Canseco, Henderson, Parker, Eckersley, McGuire, Henderson. Stewart, Welch and others. They had the big name players and walked with a swagger. They showed up my Blue Jays and ran all over the bases during the ALCS. They played in three World Series in the late 1980s. They had beautiful weather and an outdoor stadium. You haven't sat in Exhibition Stadium in September.
This scene is a beautiful reflection of responsible and degenerate gambling. Jeremy truly believed he could of made it to second, however he slipped (like most of us in a casino at the BlackJack table) and decided to not take the chance soon diving back to first as if his life counted on it (standing on a 12 card while dealer has 10). Moments later, he realized the baseball was slammed 60ft across the fence with the temptation and imagination we feel as gamblers to risk everything we have that we cannot afford to gain back. "its a metaphor" I know its a metaphor
The moral of the story: Home runs, compared to other events, are rare. Realize when you hit one and then get as much out of it as you possibly can (without getting greedy, of course). These are true gifts.
It's weird that this film was just a baseball movie which mostly just features a bunch of guys talking to each other in dingy offices with dim lighting. Yet, I come back to watch these scenes constantly. That's the power of good cinema.
I could not care less about baseball, but this is honestly one of my favourite movies ever. I watch it a few times a year, but since I have watched some baseball and funny enough I dont mind it so much
i love football and have zero idea how baseball works....but damn this movie actually made me took some interest into baseball......and this movie was really damn good and entertaining
I don't know why but the movie made me emotional. I never watched baseball, we don't get it on our TV stations that often. Maybe a game here and there, but it's uncommon. But this movie struck a cord with me. The essence of sports.
EXPLANATION: Billy Beane felt like he failed in his life to achieve a legacy with his proffessional career & himself. That's why he never sat inside the stafium to watch the team play, he felt like a bad omen. What he really "failed" to see was how special he was, he hit a homerun in his life, with his daughter, baseball etc. But he just never seen it.
I like your explanation but I'm pretty sure it's a little more simple and he is just saying it is a metaphor for the season that had just ended (without winning the world series). Even though they didn't win it all like he wanted, he accomplished something great.
Of course this is just my opinion but this is how I interpreted it.
@@Saboo27 The impact was greater than winning a World Series. They built a post season team for a fraction of the price that other teams did. What they did couldn't be ignored. It would change how every other team functioned.
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IIRC, this was supposed to go while he was deliberating the Red Sox offer. He's stuck his nose out to consider a better and brighter opportunity in a storied franchise with legit ability to make a world series winning team... and he was shuffling away from it. And this was the counter argument - he just hit a homerun, but he was too terrified to take the next step and scrambling back to the comfort of first base.
@@forgottenfamily very well put especially the first base reference
Ohhhhhh, huh. Thanks for that
The sportsmanship in that clip is through the roof! Guys on both teams congratulating him.
The America that used to be
@@DG-nq5ex You do realize this isn't a real clip right? That moment was never caught on video.
I personally can not find a single issue with this movie.......such an awesome film,well made,well acted,great all over
Agreed, no flaws. I don't even like baseball.
has to be the best sport movie. probably because its not about a player's rise to fame but about a struggling manager creating a team of champions. i dont even watch baseball.
It fails to mention that the team had Miguel Tejada winning the MVP and Barry ZIto winning the Cy Young Award. The only time that either player would achieve either of these. The 1 through 3 starting pitchers on that A's team was one of the best in baseball and that wasn't mentioned. Eric Chavez was one of the best third basemen in baseball: not mentioned. Carlos Pena was trash that season and they talk him up.
The premise of the movie was that they had calculated how many more runs they needed that season, and they were trying to find those runs very cheaply. Tejada's, Zito's, and Hudson's production went up drastically. Players already on the roster over achieving Jonah Hill's initial calculation played a larger role than the movie gave credit.
This movie is a horrible adaptation of the book and not at all realistic.
I think you're not really thinking about this wrong. The "initial calculation" is just an oversimplified metaphor used to explain the role their number based approach played in their success. And it's not like this is the only example they use. Remember, this movie (like any movie nowadays) is playing to the LCD, this isn't exactly meant for hardcore sports fans.
And sure, IRL, luck did play a part in their success, but it's not like thats the only good season they had, and multiple factors played into their success that season, and into the future.
My favorite part of this scene is seeing the opposing players encouraging him around the bases. Even the catcher gives him a friendly swat when he reaches home. They were genuinely laughing with him, not at him. The first baseman is my favorite.
I got lucky and Hit a home run in little league, and it hadn't happened in that league in like 6 years. Small town (1500) and we were playing another team from our town. My buddy playin SS congratulated me otw by and my buddy playin center field met me after home plate with the ball. Pretty cool moment we all remember nearly 25 years later
@@samhansen6320 wow dude, that’s a timeless story. Good on ya mate!!
Although I’m hindsight, I’m now thinking this is a plot to a movie, maybe sandlot?
Lies again? No video + no weakness
@@sam432ful I don't know what movie you are thinking, but if you are, that is definitely not the plot to _The Sandlot._
@@wvu05 your probably right, haven’t seen the movie in like 10 years. But the story sounds familiar and I watch a lot of those sports movies. So…
This little story really gets to me for some reason. I feel like we all need to see someone who puts in the effort, is scared that they failed ... but actually succeeded beyond expectations.
Its a metaphor about billy beane wanting to change the game did win a world series but but changed the game forever
@@Eray-fy5bz We know it's a metaphor.
I don't even care about baseball, but this scene gets to me.
This scene is a message for all of us.
Field of Dreams and Moneyball. Two of the best movies, which also happen to be two of the best baseball movies.
Baseball, in my opinion, is the most boring team sport ever. Just the same, this movie, in my opinion, is one of the greatest films of all time.
I honestly don't get what the message is
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Coming from the UK. Never watched a baseball game and don't understand the rules. What is the point/message of this clip?
THE POINT IS (for those who haven't picked up on it) ..... even though Billy didn't put a team together that could go the distance for a World Series win..... He accomplished something much greater without realizing it ....... He spent the least money to field a team which won 20 consecutive games (an MLB record) and a team which did better on paper than the league's most expensive team, the NY Yankees..... it was a phenomenal accomplishment
... It's a metaphor. I know it's a metaphor, Pete.
I know it's a metaphor Coverspace, .
I think you're tremendously overcomplicating it
@@danonroof He isn't but you do you.
True story, I stopped at 2nd Base after my first HR in a High School game as a ninth grader. 2nd Baseman told me it was a HR but I thought it must have been a Ground Rule Double. I had never hit a HR before so I wasn’t expecting it. I wouldn’t leave the base because I thought he had the ball and would tag me out. Ump came over and said “Home Run kid”. I went on to hit 20 more home runs in high school. Never got over that first one though. Total surprise. 😂
What? No.
I'm 60 years old now and I only played one year of little league ball when I was 13. At the time it was a nightmare for me. I got picked on a lot and the coach didn't spend any time on me. (His son, of course, got all of it.) I was the kid that only played the minimum two innings while stuck out in right field. By BA was .145. It's funny how I think about that season almost every week since.
@@MangoHombre.145 isnt bad for a minimum play player
I know nothing about baseball and have no real desire to know anything but I watched this film all the way through and was mesmerized , an absolutely fantastic movie that I am so glad I saw.
You should learn more about baseball. It really is a great sport and usually a very chivalrous one at that.
The movie really should've talked more about Jeremy Brown. The book had a whole chapter about him and how because of his size he wasn't expecting to even get drafted, then the A's took him in the first round.
I’ll tell you where he is now. He’s coaching high school baseball and his team is now in the state championship. And yes he is my coach
@@martinlee4558 now that's a success story. Let the millionaires keep their rings. Working as a coach who makes a difference in the lives of young adults...that's real success. Another home run by Jeremy Brown.
@@martinlee4558 That's awesome hope you guys made it all the way!
@@martinlee4558 That is great
And he was a BIG FAT BUST! why are you romanticizing him? Lol funny. Drafted way out of order. Complete WASTED pick. Billy got wayy too full of himself started doing crap like this.
I love this metaphor: going for the second base is winning the league. The A’s didn’t win at this first attempt, just as Jeremy stumbles and falls at his. Billy is crushed by that. But getting that team together with no more than scraps, giving abandoned players a chance, and winning 20 games in a row (making them legendary), that’s the home-run. This is what Peter tries show him: he already hit the home run, even though he didn’t make it to second base in one go.
We know. Thanks for explaining the video
@@swanningabout yea man why not
Thank you for the clear explanation. Ive seen the movie and could remember the scene but was lost on the metaphor. Brilliant analysis. Thank you.
That's a really good interpretation man
thanks for explaining this, youre a good egg.
the movie couldn't have been made any better, perfect ending to a near perfect sports movie
my favorite sports movie of all time.. Totally agree with your assessment
yeah, are you ready for this! it had 3 different DIRECTORS! the first director wanted to make the movie like the movie "THE BOYS OF SUMMER". (that why you see the interview scenes as in "THE BOYS OF SUMMER"). he got fired! the 2nd director got into it and quit. the 3rd made it one of the greatest movies ever!!!
Samuel Moulds Not to mention the fact that it went through two different iterations of the screenplay by two different writers before Aaron Sorkin came along and fixed it all.
Well maybe if they actually won a playoff SERIES using all these tactics, maybe
"Bull Durham".
Rest In Peace my dear friend Oscar Cabrera who played Jeremy Brown in "Moneyball"...
Im so sorry for your loss! :( 💔💔😢😢😭😭 RiP Oscar! ❤😇
@@michaelriddick7116 Thanks Mike much appreciated brother 🙏🏼
@@travelhog Thank you so much T-Hog! Best wishes to you and everyone on here as well 🙏🏼⚾️
He was great
Sorry for your loss man
I never get sick of this movie. It is always a go to for me. Definitely in my top ten list of all time favorites.
"Moneyball" is one of my all-time favorite movies. I actually get a little teary-eyed just thinking about it and everything it represents.
so just enjoy the show :)
I totally agree. The chemistry between Pitt and Hill was awesome and without a doubt I think Jonah Hill's performance was SUPERB and his best to date!
I honestly wish Jonah Hill won Best Supporting Actor, he had two of the best scenes in the whole film.
He should have won
Perfect casting for the part and he gave an amazing performance
He shouldn't of been nominated
@@bradlafferty6076 He deserved his nomination
@@bradlafferty6076 Wrong.
This scene is about the expectations we set for ourselves based on what other people think or say of us.
The fact the ball went 60 feet over the fence is absolutely insane. I don't think people understand the true measure of how far that is over the fence. You have to have raw power to do that kind of thing.
Add in the fact what the dimensions are, and you get a sense of how hard Jeremy hit that ball:
Left Field - 320 ft
Left-Center Power Alley - 365 ft
Center Field - 405 ft
Right-Center Power Alley - 365 ft
Right Field - 320 ft
Have you ever had everyone telling you that you were wrong, and that you would fail? So much that every shot you took you always stopped short of claiming your glory because you couldn't see it?
That moment when others recognize your success and winning moves is pure and clear joy, and stays with you forever.
Don't give up! Keep striving to win!
The other team congratulating him as he round the bases got me, thats incredible.
The emphasis was on Jeremy Brown. This guy wasn't a very good hitter. That's why he is always scared to go to second base, because he was afraid of getting out because he wasn't fast enough. This one time, he was going to go for it, he's going to go for second, he tries, falls down, is completely ashamed and struggles to get back to first. It's romantic because this was the only time he had ever gotten a home run, it was the one time that he decided to face his fear and attempt to go for second.
He’s a fat player hitting is probably the only thing he’s good at that’s why they have them. You missed the point of the scene.
@@currywithstheshotboy3619 nope you missed it buddy
@@khaos1185 he literally says it’s a metaphor at the end of the scene. And if the guy is fat why would he be on a baseball team if he’s not a good hitter? This dude took the scene as literally as possible and then just added random facts at the end lmao. I doubt that was his first home run or he was a bad hitter, he had an irrational fear of rounding to second based on whatever past experiences he’s had. It’s not a hard scene to understand.
@@currywithstheshotboy3619 The point of the scene is this. Sometimes someone can hit a home run and not even realize it. Peter Brand was making that point to Billy Beane to let him know how much he had achieved and still did not realize it. It was his way of saying - "Don't think you haven't done anything. With the statistical model, you have hit the ball out of the ballpark"!
@@currywithstheshotboy3619 But the beauty of the scene is this - it allows us to draw our own conclusions depending on our situation, state of mind and thought process! Since it is a metaphor, it can practically be anything we want it to be!!
"How can you not be Romantic about Baseball" this scene was just awesome and honestly made me appreciate baseball even more, i honestly dont know why
Adam West because it’s a metaphor.
It's a beautiful game. It really is.
Excellent movie MONEYBALL. It starts with this wonderful quote: "It´s unbelievable how much you don´t know about the game you´ve been playing all yout life." Mickey Mantle.
yeah, Steve Yeager was asked by a reporter, "do you know everything about baseball?" Yeager said, "I have been in baseball for 30years and the day I go to the ballpark and don't learn something new is the day I will quit."
"He hit a home run and didn't even realize it. This is Pretty Good with Jon Bois"
*soft jazz, google earth*
yes
First thing that went through my head
@MANCHESTER UNITED lmao there's not even 240 countries
@@SirTylerGolf
So the definition of nation is annoyingly subjective. One only needs to ask about what Taiwan should be to get to how political all of it is. The most commonly accepted list is the UN member states list which is 193 recognized nations. However, it is worth noting that FIFA recognizes 211 "national association" members. And not all "national associations" are part of FIFA (though very nearly). I doubt the final total is 240, but I'd be cautious about making too definitive of a declaration.
Though what the hell soccer has to do with a comment about baseball and Jon Bois's directorial style I will never know.
It’s between193 and 197 depending on individual countries interpretation.
My husband and I loved to watch this movie and this was always my favorite scene. I had been an A's fan in the 72, 73, 74 WS sweep. But Neil was a serious Giant's fan and I quickly came around to his way of thinking. We were looking forward to the start of the 2016 season but he passed away right after Thanksgiving 2015. Somehow I think they would be breaking his heart this season. I can't even look to see how bad they are doing LOL I know it's not good but they're still my boys. Peace
This scene finally tells us about Sorkin's idealistic personal philosophy and the real conclusion of Billy's story... that statistics/math/numbers aren't deterministic nor important. That life can be unpredictable, illogical, and romantic, and that's great. Despite an entire film so far being about mathematicians proving stubborn scouts wrong, Sorkin still believes that some decisions aren't rational or mathematically sound and those moments are more important. Beane is going to follow his heart rather than the voices of others and the voices of experts (who would tell him to chase the money and prestige), and he turns down the position with the Red Sox. He finally accepts that it's okay to be what objectively may be seen as a "loser" move (as his daughter sings at the end). Beautiful.
Well, I think like all great writing it can be interpreted in more than one way. I think on it's most basic level, Jonah Hill is telling Pitt's Bean that even though he doesn't realize it, he hit a home run. That despite not getting to the World Series, metaphorically he still hit a home run because of the amount of success they had using saber metrics to manage their team.
@@mobiz711 incredibly well said...
@@mobiz711 But... isn't that the only possible interpretation of this? It's literally the intended meaning and the only way this scene makes sense in the context of the movie. That's the metaphor - that it looked and felt like a loss, but was actually a bigger win than they knew. They couldn't win the championship, but what they did changed the entire game. It's beautiful because it juxtaposes the movie's main story about logic and facts overriding intuition. That also is the intended meaning, and why it's such an effective scene.
Moneyball works, but you still can never discount unexpected brilliance and heroism against the apparent script. That's why you can't "not be romantic about baseball" - or all of life (which is the REAL metaphor here, and the ultimate subtext of the movie). That's why the scene moves you. It's offering enormous encouragement and hope.
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Ken Williamson the other way to look at it is that brown the player depicted was one of the players Beane insisted on drafting over the strenuous objections of his scouting team. And this scene in seeming to emphasize hope actually capture the myopia at the heart of moneyball. This kid clearly can’t play baseball at the mlb level precisely for the reasons the scouts identified. He “got on base” but so what- the emphasis on getting on base only works when you are dealing with a pool of players that have demonstrated the ability to do all the things required of a mlb baseball player. It doesnt really help you analyze amateur players. A player that can’t run to second is useless as a MLB player no matter how much he gets on base.
I think this is one of the best scenes in the movie, if not the best.
Omg this film is over 10 years old already. Amazing film and acting
Greatest baseball movie ever made. The acting is perfect
don't forget Major League
This is one of the greatest movies ever made, even if you're not a baseball fan. Because it's not a movie about baseball. It's about rebelling against received wisdom and disrupting the stale way of doing things.
Im not crying I just got dust in my eyes I swear
yeah, I feel the same way! I AM a movie buff and I think it is one of the greatest movies ever! I bought extra copies in case they get damaged!
RichHillSU there’s no crying in Moneyball.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing all your life"
-Mickey Mantel-
“How can you not be romantic about baseball?” One of the many lines that I’ve taken from this film to heart.
This is such a great movie.... it had some credits, but i think people don't understand how good it is. I'am coming back to it often, and always find new things, new scenes of inspiration. It is one of the best movies i have seen about sport. And ... sport is great metaphor of life. There are so much people that are not given credit because they have some flaws - and often we don't realize how much they are important in our lives, till its too late. This is a hidden truth, that u can find from watching this over and over... and how great is that wisdom on the way u treat people - it made me look on many things from a very different angle. This movie really made me a better person.
What a heartwarming scene.
The ending to this film.. "Billy Beane is still trying to win the last match..." man my eyes couldn't see anything after that.. The most beautiful sports movie I have ever seen.
Stuff like this is what makes baseball, or sports altogether, such a beautiful thing. Seeing that guy who can't go for a double kill a home run, seeing that A's team who was expected to be crap win 20 games in a row and win 103 games on the season, there's something to be said about that. What a wonderful movie this is, I've never enjoyed, and seeked to understand all there is to a movie, so much.
yeah, and look what the A' s did this year, 2018!!! MONEY BALL!!!
An unexpectedly great movie! I am old A's fans back from the early 70's when they reeled off 3 championships.
I grew up in the east bay. I was always an As fan. This is my favorite movie. Seen it dozens of times.
I love baseball so much.
That is such a beautiful scene. One of so many in this excellent movie. Just so many levels to this film. I think Pitt and Jonah Hill should have won Oscars for great acting. So nuanced. Moneyball one of my favourite movies of all time. Thanks for posting these clips ❤️
This is the movie that turned me into an Oakland A's fan. Not because of some player, but because of Billy Beane.
It's hard not to root for Billy Beane. and he's better today than he ever was.
+Ricky Bobby It's a good movie, but I'll always prefer that the A's lose. They're division rivals.
Im an A's fan i have a love and hate relationship for him.....he drove me over my limit when he traded Cespedes
Lol I don’t get this. The whole point of this movie is that billy realizes that you can’t overcome the disparities in payroll because teams like the Red Sox just adapt those strategies. So what does he do makes his peace with penny pinching owners in the best way possible by becoming an equity partner in the A’s.
Ironically the only way to maintain a competitive advantage as a baseball team is in scouting and drafting players- the exact expertise Beane dismisses.
@@dannytallmadge2161 the Oakland A's of 2020 have an extremely robust amateur and professional scouting department. Scott Hatteberg is actually a scout for the A's now. Grady Fuson is back, with Kubota (mr. t ball) at the helm. Paul DePodesta (real life Peter Brand) actually says in quite a lot of interviews that the A's of this era relied heavily on scouting to make sure data was correct - a scout's expertise would filter through the noise - look not simply at the numbers, but HOW they were achieving those numbers. Look at Laureano and Matt Chapman for instance. They were both incredibly talented players passed on by other organizations. The data found these players, and the scouts confirmed that they were the real deal, or vice versa. In reality, scouting and data had always gone hand and hand in the Oakland A's front office.
It's scenes like this that remind me why I love movies so much.
Such an outstanding movie. So many life lessons are contained in it! People in their teens and 20s should play it every single year.
I'm going to confess something - I don't like baseball. I know nothing about baseball. I've never had a single minute of interest in baseball in my life...and I'm nearly 55 years old. And I LOVED this film.
Nothing wrong with that. I dislike watching baseball games BUT I love watching baseball highlights and clips
Maybe you will like "The Natural". Good movie, great score
Its not hard to like a movie ABOUT something you dont care about if it has a good story and characters
@@andromedaiscoming185 I would respectfully disagree with you. I believe it would be very hard to make a great story about a topic that the viewer has zero interest in...and get them to truly love it.
Im not a sports guy, but sports movies are some of my favorites. For Love of the Game is one of my favorite movies of all time. And of course A League of Their Own, Bull Durham, The Way Back, Hosiers, Miracle, and ykno.. Rocky. Love all those movies. There's something about a good sports movie that just hits the inspiration bone.
I think I could probably get into sports if I actually sat down to watch some games. Baseball and Hockey interest me, but the only time I've ever watched a full game of baseball is when I was in school and we went to a game for a field trip. And even then me and my friends spent most of that time walking around.
I have watched this movie twice in the last two weeks. The casting and acting is absolutely stellar.
Man this scene just makes me love baseball and the movie even more than I had, the movie was great and I highly doubt that record will ever be broken anytime soon, amazing movie especially because I'm a die hard A's fan
"How can you not be romantic, about Baseball?" There is nothing left to be said.
Todd Christopher There is actually. If your are a cricket lover, baseball seems too simple boring of a sport!
Cricket... compared to baseball? Nah. Watch the movie again if you already have. If you haven't, watch it now. There's nothing simple about it. Half the game is science. The other half is athleticism.
Yeah but so is Cricket - look at what bowlers are doing in wind tunnels these days.
Look, if I was an American I would be a baseball fan, for sure. But I was born in a cricket-playing nation, so that is what I like. We can argue about the differences all day, but we should really be looking at similarities.
Baseball is very little athleticism or even moving. Much less skillful than boxing/tennis/golf (real sports that dont rely on teams). It's okay if you LIKE those sports or if they are your favorite, but don't be so obtuse and embarrass yourselves over it. Nothing wrong with a game just because it is easier or more simple.
@@ven8107 you obviously don't understand baseball so it obviously requires more skill than you let on. It's true there is skill in every sport. And practice, lots and lots of practice. Pitchers spend hours perfecting the location of their different pitches. Batters spend countless hours hitting in cages tweaking their swing.
My favourite scene from one of my all-time favourite movies. Thanks for posting.
I have played baseball all my life. I was fortunate enough to play for a D3 school for 2 years. I had one varsity at bat, never touched the field, but went to every practice, morning weights, and conditioning session. I didn't play this year because it was too much strain and stress with schoolwork and I always got yelled at by my coaches. Every single day I regret not playing. All of that is worth it. "How can you not be romantic about baseball?"
This scene still gives me goosebumps. One of the greatest moments in movie history. I love it.
Opposing team's #17's butt pat and encouragement are priceless.
I can't get enough of this scene.
How can you not be romantic about baseball? If you love this scene you check out Bartolo Colon's first homer vs the Padres
The Oakland Acheivers won 20 straight games in a row, the longest streak in the history of baseball. But they failed to win the championship game, so Billy Beane was devastated. The fact is that despite his team not winning the big one, he still did something amazing without realizing it, just like Jeremy Brown did.
But now modern analytics had supposedly determined that everything he preached was 100% wrong. Getting on base is meaningless to today's scouts. IT is ALL about hitting a home run. Players are ENCOURAGED to swing for the fences regardless of the situation. Bottom of the 9th inning, game tied runner on third with 1 out? 2 strikes? Don't you dare shorten up your swing just to hit a sacrifice fly. Swing for that two run home run so your meaningless run can score too! Sure, you will strike out more than half the time, but go for that home run! After all, you've hit 3 all year! That makes you a power hitter! Don't you see that the other team has the shift on? And if you do, don't you DARE bunt against the shift for the easy game winning hit. You MUST go for the home run. Modern analytics says so! Ratings be damned! Fans LOVE to see strikeouts!"
Haha I love how the second baseman was waving him in
Shortstop*
OSRS Trance shortstop dude
I never played baseball, didn't really watch it but the occasional highlight on SportsCenter, didn't grow up with it. But it always had something that appealed to me and made me like it. That last line is what made me realize why that was. How can you not be romantic about baseball
My grandfather played for the Phillies before they were the Phillies, in the 1920's. He would have loved this film. I wish he had been alive to see it.
"How can you not be romantic about baseball." Loved that quote when I saw the movie ... then I lived it with the 2019 Nationals. ❤❤❤❤⚾ Baseball really is a great game :)
I LOVED the book. I laughed out loud when the scout munched thoughtfully on a chocolate chip cookie…but the movie did the book justice, and captured the players highlighted in the book, Justice, Brown, Bradford and Hatteberg…didn’t really get after Zito and the pitchers as much.
Baseball is romantic and the book/movie capture it so well; the reclamation projects given a second chance on the underdog team! Gold!
This is my absolute favourite scene from the movie. What acting. What message. Pure genius.
The timing between these two guys when delivering their dialogue is impeccable.
This is good for life in general. You hit home runs without realising it. But I love Baseball
Aw, they're laughing at him.
And he's about to find out why
Cool video, really exciting. Thanks Daniel, another great watch!!
Every time these clips get recommend them I watch them. I straight up LOVE this movie.
"How can you not be romantic about baseball."
being an A's fan (even though this was a conjured up scene), it gives it a little more special meaning to me. Those were some fun times at that field and I've had many fond memories watching these amazing teams play while I was a teen. Now as an adult, I'm glad I can watch them play inspiring ball again too.
What do mean "conjured up?" That really happened.
William Russell Well aware, but the film guy for the A's really did show Beane a video of Jeremy Brown hitting a home run and tripping over first base.
I saw this movie and I was amazed how much more baseball is about than just coaching and playing. Bead was great. Awesome movie all around!!! :)
HOW CAN THIS NOT BE ON THE TOP OF YOUR FAVORITE MOVIES LIST?
not only that, but he changed the game and how it is looked at today. even though they failed to win the big one, he still revolutionized baseball analysis and how front offices and scouting departments are run. I think that's what peter was trying to point out.
I love this movie so much. As a Dodgers fan I always want to see my team do well but a small part of me pulls for Billy and the A's.
projectNERV bit late but I’m with you there! Dodgers fan as well, but do cheer the A’s because of this movie haha
You'll notice there is no video of Everything Wrong with Moneyball - because there ain't nothing wrong with it.
Well except for romanticizing all of these "genius" baseball moves that netted them....a first round playoff exit. Yippie!!
@@kaindeschain8590 Okay, but it did revolutionize the game, make a terrible team better than it had any right to be, and pave the way for the Red Sox to break the curse in 2004. It's not like it didn't make any waves
@@kaindeschain8590 Given what he had to work with...making the post-season was like winning the Superbowl.
@@markmerzweiler909 Billy Beane deserves a lot of credit for his cumulative work in Oakland, but the book and the movie concentrate on the wrong primary reasons for why they were so good in 2002. Their six best players by Wins Above Replacement (Baseball Reference) were 1) Barry Zito 2) Tim Hudson 3) Miguel Tejada 4) Mark Mulder 5) Eric Chavez and 6) Cory Lidle but the book concentrates on guys like Hatteberg and Bradford. If you had to re-write the story on the 2002 A's with a more accurate title, it'd be Moneyball: Why the Amateur Draft Is So Important.
@@kaindeschain8590 It's a fantastic script and great acting.
I'd have no happier feeling of friendship and recognition than to be called " a good egg." I love that old-timey phrase.
Such a great film full of great acting. You don't even have to like or understand baseball to really enjoy this movie.
Understanding baseball helped me appreciate the book and the movie. Growing up a Toronto Blue Jays fan made it difficult for me to be sympathetic to the Oakland Athletics. 1989 really hurt. They had Canseco, Henderson, Parker, Eckersley, McGuire, Henderson. Stewart, Welch and others. They had the big name players and walked with a swagger. They showed up my Blue Jays and ran all over the bases during the ALCS. They played in three World Series in the late 1980s. They had beautiful weather and an outdoor stadium. You haven't sat in Exhibition Stadium in September.
This scene gives me a lump in my throat. As a baseball fan, this is epic.
This scene is a beautiful reflection of responsible and degenerate gambling. Jeremy truly believed he could of made it to second, however he slipped (like most of us in a casino at the BlackJack table) and decided to not take the chance soon diving back to first as if his life counted on it (standing on a 12 card while dealer has 10). Moments later, he realized the baseball was slammed 60ft across the fence with the temptation and imagination we feel as gamblers to risk everything we have that we cannot afford to gain back.
"its a metaphor"
I know its a metaphor
Not even a baseball fan but between B. Pitt And J. HILL they made this movie a great watch.
"It's a metaph-"
"I know it's a metaphor."
One of my favorite Sorkin lines ever.
He doesn't cut him off, your transcription is incorrect. Good attempt though.
"We're having a moment ... aaaand now that moment's gone."
@@Dman40000 He got the intention and meaning though - that's the point.
@@oilcan1000 no. If you get Al Yankovic to parody you? You've hit the big leagues. You've made it!
The moral of the story: Home runs, compared to other events, are rare. Realize when you hit one and then get as much out of it as you possibly can (without getting greedy, of course). These are true gifts.
No, that’s not the moral of the story at all.
@@RS-Caleb ...huh?...see bbee's comment below, which puts into real life (e.g. Billy Beane's) perspective what I alluded to above...
What a great analogy, Billy hit a Homerun and he didn't even notice. I love this movie.
The whole point of this scene, just perfect.
"You are a good-egg! I'll call you."
Makes me cry every single time.
Why is this one of my favorite scenes in any sports movie?
Proud to be from Visalia. I went to countless Oaks games during this exact time.
It's weird that this film was just a baseball movie which mostly just features a bunch of guys talking to each other in dingy offices with dim lighting.
Yet, I come back to watch these scenes constantly.
That's the power of good cinema.
My favorite scene in the whole movie. Brad summed it up perfectly: “how could you not be romantic about baseball!”
HOW CAN YOU NOT BE ROMANTIC ABOUT BASEBALL
This is one of the greatest scenes in the history of cinema.
I'm not crying, you're crying.
Well, now I need to watch Moneyball for the 800th time.
Scene brings tears to my eyes... every. damn. time.
I could not care less about baseball, but this is honestly one of my favourite movies ever. I watch it a few times a year, but since I have watched some baseball and funny enough I dont mind it so much
i love football and have zero idea how baseball works....but damn this movie actually made me took some interest into baseball......and this movie was really damn good and entertaining
I don't know why but the movie made me emotional. I never watched baseball, we don't get it on our TV stations that often. Maybe a game here and there, but it's uncommon. But this movie struck a cord with me. The essence of sports.
Such a fantastic scene!
loved this movie so much
This is awesome I didn’t catch this when I watch the movie but I paid attention. Mr. Bean didn’t Realize that he had it the home run, Very cool.
How can you not be romantic about baseball...
because it's boring as fuck?
@@klalakomacoi def not, if you dont got a brain then yeah i can see that
This is your new friend telling you that your life is a home run. Even if you don’t know it.
The best comment and explanation for this clip.
though i watched this many times, I didn't realize what this scene meant until i read comments here. I just knew this is the best part in this movie.