@@MiniatureReview Some numbers from Berlin, Germany. 18.6 million € (20.7 million usd) or about 30.000 bikes per year (reported) stolen, 3,9 % of bike thefts got solved. (stats from 2017)
@@MrZworg Not very good solved case percentages. Hopefully, technology will catch up to these thieves and make it harder to steal stuff. That said states like California just give them a slap on the wrist if the amount is less than 1K. I have seen some pretty funny videos on TH-cam where bike thieves get punked.
@@MiniatureReview Police is not really actively looking for stolen bikes. Last time i reported a stolen bike the policeman got pissed i made him do paper work.
Nice description on the Abus Bordo 6000 bike lock but you never explained how the sleeve gets attached to the bike, which is not well described in the instructions. Best, Dan in Long Island
I have this and I have to to say I'm dissapointed at the noise level. It's just not loud enougn. I keep my bike outside my bedroom window and I can barely hear the alarm go off.
I got this lock but it has a MAJOR flaw which is why im returning it..even when its locked, the battery compartment can be taken out after you remove the rubber casing. So someone who knows about this can easily do it and go further ahead with stealing the bike. Cant believe they didnt think of this!
Thanks for this! I was thinking it must have a battery and I bet they haven’t made disengaging the battery as secure as the chain. This video does say “I don’t think anyone would be able to access the battery”, but you’re saying it does, so I’ll not waste £100 unless I hear different.
I've experienced problems due to bad weather conditions. After that it rained a lot, the alarms system seems completely out of order. As soon as I turn the key the alarm keeps going with that loud sound for more than a minute.
Most locks can easily be cut given the right tools and time. That is one reason I use 2 locks from 2 different manufacturers. At least when I do that, it takes a bit more time and may make them move on.
I have had this lock for few weeks now, I tested the holder bracket, My testing shown that hard impacts to the bash guard results in the middle links of the lock popping out. So I can't approve this solution for #mtb might work for light xc with impacts, but not #enduromtb the holder would also move side to side, leaving black rubber residue on the frame. Using only the strap provided did not work so well, but adding zip ties helped to stabilise it but did not stop it rotating so from now on the lock will stay in the backpack. That was the plan anyway, I just wanted to test this holder but having a lock mounted to the bike will result in a dirty lock, as with everything else mounted to the bike won't attach things to my bike, it makes no sense to me. I probably rode harder than this was tested, hit bash guide at rock fountain in city centre, I jumped over a stream, but I don't think that was the problem, but I think the problem is hit the bash guard over and over, eventually the links popped out, seems like the impact made it pop out. this is text I will use in my review I am writing. So from now on I will have the lock in my back pack, I only had it on the bike for testing purposes. here is a pic of it mounted to the down tube via provided strap and zip ties: flic.kr/p/2i2vX1a
I had mine for one day and the lock popped off the holder while going high speed over cobblestones. The lock fell on to the cobblestones while going 30+ km/h and got pretty scratched and banged up. The shiny part that looks like a mic? A thin plastic cosmetic. Still works, but now this really expensive lock looks like sh!t.
@@mksundstrom here is my review: wp.me/p60aTF-2SY I have done some testing with the mount, and yeas, I had similar experience. the reason I bought it is the alarm.
@Martin Sundstrøm I don't want to keep any thing on my bike exposed, cus it will get dirty, I keep mine in my tool compartment of my back pack, as you have seen in my review, but I guess you could get a frame bag, or top tube bag to put it into, but for me keeping it in the backpack works.
Some more of testing results: you can't lock front wheel to frame on a bike that has slack head angle like mine does, 61 deg, it's a size large Nicolai/Geometron G1, but bikes with steep head angle it's not a problem, but on my bike I can only lock the rear wheel to the frame, but not to a roof support wall infront of a store, but for good racks you use pedal to park the bike you can lock it to a rack like that.
Can the speaker for the alarm be covered with bubble gum or is it somehow hidden? ( I see posts online related to other bike alarms that say thieves just cover speaker with bubble gum which makes it uselesss)
No. The alarm is inside the grill. They could probably muffle it with a sock or some type of sleeve. My guess is they will just move on to an easier target.
Ok how about two of them and when you try to muffle or spray one the other reacts and goes off. But you could have bad luck with two thieves working together and each would spray or muffle at the same time. I suggest that you buy three locks as it’s unlikely three thieves would travel together. Psychologist say thieves are narcissistic and seldom work with a partner so unlikely to work with two partners. Or you could get three of these and 2 Ulocks and the Kryptonite chain. But then...
Now the thing that may become a problem is when it's really windy outside. Will the lock react on strong wind and go off over and over again!? :o Hopefully ABUS thought about that and made sure it didn't. It would just be small vibrations from the wind hitting the bike.
Not sure. I haven't tested it in such windy conditions. My guess is it would have to be really windy for that to occur and even then it might not set the alarm off depending on how the bike is locked.
the major flaw with folding locks you can defeat them in the joints, by lifting the arms apart from the rivet with special tool, but the alarm makes this lock quite interesting, before the alarm it was a no go, but you should try lock picking. Abus locks can easily be picked in seconds as most of the locks on the market. if the alarm cna detect the picking it would be good, cus a lock picker would not have to move the lock to pick it.
The way the alarm works is if the lock is jiggled, it gives a 5 second delay warning. After that the alarm goes off. I have seen a few videos of the joint attack. Doesn't take too long, but in those cases, they were attacking an Abus lock without an alarm. That may or may not make a difference. I have another lock called by Pinhead that looks like it would be really tough to pick. Using that lock with the Abus, might be a good solution. gearmashers.com/pinhead-lock-review/
The lock is sensitive enough to detect movement on the handlebars despite only touching the frame & rear wheel. I for one also lock it with the keyhole pointing towards the floor - Sometimes I can barely unlock it myself without triggering the alarm using its own keys so good luck picking one without triggering it.
Currently using this as a secondary lock to accompany my ulock to protect my ebike. It is VERY sensitive. It would be extremely difficult to pick it, considering I need to be tactful even just using the the regular keys to not set off the alarm. I think it makes for a great deterrent. It's especially great as a secondary lock because it basically also acts as an alarm for your other lock(s). I quickly learned I need to lock this alarm after the U-Lock and unlock it before - simply fiddling with the U-Lock on the other end of the bike would trigger the alarm.
What happens when you are about to unlock your own bike? It should give the warning beep when handling the lock? Haven't seen the unlocking procedure in any video review yet.
Hey Tompaah, If you jiggle the lock, the warning beeps go off, if you are still jiggling it and haven't unlocked it, the alarm will go off. I had the alarm go off on me already once because I had a hard time putting the key into the lock based on how it was positioned.
There's like a 3sec delay before it actually triggers the alarm when moved - Should you not be able to unlock it in that timeframe ( the keyhole is a bit finicky ) it'll do a 5sec Pre-Alarm and if movement still continues without it being unlocked it'll blast you with the full 100dB for the next 20sec or until the movement has stopped - That includes the entire bike as it's sensitive enough to detect that - Like someone trying to remove the front wheel while the lock only touches the rear one and frame.
I’m enjoying the bike so far th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
so far the Abus is appealing due to the alarm, also Forever lock due to the special lock, but one thing to remember is to not lose the key, but that's why you got spares, but you have to have it in a special container on key chain. chain locks is also a good idea, pad lock with alarm.
My review is up, I am finished testing the bracket/holder, I added your vid to the review, no point in me repeating everything, you already showcased this lock well. wp.me/p60aTF-2SY I also have a video of mine there, but I am testing the bracket to the extreme with drops, hitting chain guide.
Hi @killerxtreme, The battery can't be removed when locked. There is a locking pin that moves up, which locks the battery in place. I had to drag out the lock to test it out. :-)
Pourquoi ne pas avoir fait un doublage à la voix? La traduction écrite est très mauvaise et pendant qu'on lit on ne voit pas ce que la personne réalise.
Abus has various U locks with alarm too, if you prefer those over folding locks or if you want to use both. Would make rattling on the bikes / locks highly discouraging. The U locks would generally a bit safer though, folding locks are pretty weak in comparison - but of course way more space efficient.
Hey. I buyed this lock cause of your video, it is a nice lock. But i don´t get how to use the system to put it on the bike when you are driving around, do you know how? :-)
Hi Joachim, I normally carry the lock in a backpack or saddlebag. The lock holder also allows you to attach it it a water bottle mounting spot. If you have a rack, you could also Bungie it there.
Gear Mashers Thanks, for answer. But when I was buying it, I thought it was possible to mount it on the frame under the saddle? Isn’t it? And how? I don’t get the mount system.
@@joachimdreisig9287 It's probably too heavy to mount under the saddle. There is a plastic holder for the lock. You have to remove the lock from that. There are 2 holes in the plastic holder. Those holes should line up with with your bottle cage holes. You can then attach it there with the bottle cage screws. I thing the holder also has straps to make it more secure. If you are still can't figure it out, I would just take your bike to a local bike shop and they should be able to get it mounted properly.
@@joachimdreisig9287 Depending on your bike frame, a bike shop could add bottle cage holes. I know ones around here do it. Here is a do it yourself video, but I would recommend a bike shop do it for you. th-cam.com/video/qNLo2rIw5M8/w-d-xo.html
Not really sure how they decide the rating. 10 out of 15 to me is still good. I would think a 15 would be heavy and probably use a chain. My recommendation is to buy 2 locks from 2 different companies that use 2 different locking mechanisms. An example would be a U-Lock and a chain lock. It's a total pain, but that is probably the most secure method. Most thieves look for easy targets, like cable locks. Also, don't leave your bike locked outside at night. That gives thieves way too much time to break the locks.
Gear Mashers Thank you for the quick reply,I got the Kriptonite evolution 120 cm chain and now the Abus Alarm comes today and I was going to send it back because I hear the alarm is just a gimmick, will see Greetings from Germany.
You certainly could muffle the alarm, but that is just one more thing a thief would have to do. My guess is they will just move on to some other easier target.
silencer? no clue what you mean, if you over the lock or bike slightly alarm will go off, so taping sound dampening on it will result in the alarm going off before you can finish taping it on. do you mean a spray? I guess that would work better.
The lock is pretty substantial, but it certainly can be defeated given the right tools. That said it is pretty tough. I have yet to find a lock that can't be compromised by a good thief.
@@GearMashers in the end I went for an Oxford d-lock with an inbuilt 120db alarm and I pair that with an abus 15mm thick combination cable lock, pretty happy with it so far
![[616] Nut Splitter vs. Abus Bordo X-Plus 6500](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Zs8uyPsDaw0/mqdefault.jpg)
Should treat bike thieves like they used to treat horse thieves back in the day.
It would probably reduce bike theft for sure. It's such a pain. I wonder if it is as bad in Europe as it is in the US.
@@MiniatureReview Some numbers from Berlin, Germany. 18.6 million € (20.7 million usd) or about 30.000 bikes per year (reported) stolen, 3,9 % of bike thefts got solved. (stats from 2017)
@@MrZworg Not very good solved case percentages. Hopefully, technology will catch up to these thieves and make it harder to steal stuff. That said states like California just give them a slap on the wrist if the amount is less than 1K.
I have seen some pretty funny videos on TH-cam where bike thieves get punked.
@@MiniatureReview Police is not really actively looking for stolen bikes. Last time i reported a stolen bike the policeman got pissed i made him do paper work.
@@MrZworg Well that sucks. I have had one bike stolen and it was pretty much crickets from the police.
Next development, I reckon: The alarm feature triggers an alert on your phone via an app.
Nice description on the Abus Bordo 6000 bike lock but you never explained how the sleeve gets attached to the bike, which is not well described in the instructions. Best, Dan in Long Island
Hi yes please can you explain this? Thanks x
Great vid, showcasing the lock.
I embedded your vid into my post on the lock, but I am not finished with the post yet so it's not published yet.
I have this and I have to to say I'm dissapointed at the noise level. It's just not loud enougn. I keep my bike outside my bedroom window and I can barely hear the alarm go off.
I got this lock but it has a MAJOR flaw which is why im returning it..even when its locked, the battery compartment can be taken out after you remove the rubber casing. So someone who knows about this can easily do it and go further ahead with stealing the bike. Cant believe they didnt think of this!
Thanks for this! I was thinking it must have a battery and I bet they haven’t made disengaging the battery as secure as the chain. This video does say “I don’t think anyone would be able to access the battery”, but you’re saying it does, so I’ll not waste £100 unless I hear different.
The uploader replied to a similar comment that the battery is locked in place when locked.
@@Boburto Good to know thank you.
I think the weight of the lock is off. I think it weighs around 1.6kgs. 450 grams is a little less than 1 lb.
Might be.
Not "Might be". You're a kilo off. mobil.abus.com/uk/on-road/Highlights/BORDO/Folding-Locks/BORDO-Alarm-6000A-90-black-SH?type=pdp
I've experienced problems due to bad weather conditions. After that it rained a lot, the alarms system seems completely out of order. As soon as I turn the key the alarm keeps going with that loud sound for more than a minute.
I just watched a video of a 10 year old kid and his dad cutting this lock with a small bolt cutter with very little effort.
Most locks can easily be cut given the right tools and time. That is one reason I use 2 locks from 2 different manufacturers. At least when I do that, it takes a bit more time and may make them move on.
Can you post the link on here of that video please.
@@ExploringHabit Nut splitter & Torque wrench...Here's a few >>>>> th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=folding+bike+lock+and+nut+splitters
I have had this lock for few weeks now, I tested the holder bracket, My testing shown that hard impacts to the bash guard results in the middle links of the lock popping out. So I can't approve this solution for #mtb might work for light xc with impacts, but not #enduromtb the holder would also move side to side, leaving black rubber residue on the frame. Using only the strap provided did not work so well, but adding zip ties helped to stabilise it but did not stop it rotating so from now on the lock will stay in the backpack. That was the plan anyway, I just wanted to test this holder but having a lock mounted to the bike will result in a dirty lock, as with everything else mounted to the bike won't attach things to my bike, it makes no sense to me. I probably rode harder than this was tested, hit bash guide at rock fountain in city centre, I jumped over a stream, but I don't think that was the problem, but I think the problem is hit the bash guard over and over, eventually the links popped out, seems like the impact made it pop out.
this is text I will use in my review I am writing.
So from now on I will have the lock in my back pack, I only had it on the bike for testing purposes.
here is a pic of it mounted to the down tube via provided strap and zip ties: flic.kr/p/2i2vX1a
I had mine for one day and the lock popped off the holder while going high speed over cobblestones. The lock fell on to the cobblestones while going 30+ km/h and got pretty scratched and banged up. The shiny part that looks like a mic? A thin plastic cosmetic. Still works, but now this really expensive lock looks like sh!t.
@@mksundstrom here is my review: wp.me/p60aTF-2SY I have done some testing with the mount, and yeas, I had similar experience. the reason I bought it is the alarm.
@Martin Sundstrøm I don't want to keep any thing on my bike exposed, cus it will get dirty, I keep mine in my tool compartment of my back pack, as you have seen in my review, but I guess you could get a frame bag, or top tube bag to put it into, but for me keeping it in the backpack works.
Some more of testing results:
you can't lock front wheel to frame on a bike that has slack head angle like mine does, 61 deg, it's a size large Nicolai/Geometron G1, but bikes with steep head angle it's not a problem, but on my bike I can only lock the rear wheel to the frame, but not to a roof support wall infront of a store, but for good racks you use pedal to park the bike you can lock it to a rack like that.
Can the speaker for the alarm be covered with bubble gum or is it somehow hidden? ( I see posts online related to other bike alarms that say thieves just cover speaker with bubble gum which makes it uselesss)
No. The alarm is inside the grill. They could probably muffle it with a sock or some type of sleeve. My guess is they will just move on to an easier target.
Ok how about two of them and when you try to muffle or spray one the other reacts and goes off. But you could have bad luck with two thieves working together and each would spray or muffle at the same time. I suggest that you buy three locks as it’s unlikely three thieves would travel together. Psychologist say thieves are narcissistic and seldom work with a partner so unlikely to work with two partners. Or you could get three of these and 2 Ulocks and the Kryptonite chain. But then...
Just get a really big dog to guard it, Plus 2 locks. :-)
Now the thing that may become a problem is when it's really windy outside. Will the lock react on strong wind and go off over and over again!? :o
Hopefully ABUS thought about that and made sure it didn't. It would just be small vibrations from the wind hitting the bike.
Not sure. I haven't tested it in such windy conditions. My guess is it would have to be really windy for that to occur and even then it might not set the alarm off depending on how the bike is locked.
Great review - definitely getting this....2 for the price of one. Thank you!
the major flaw with folding locks you can defeat them in the joints, by lifting the arms apart from the rivet with special tool, but the alarm makes this lock quite interesting, before the alarm it was a no go, but you should try lock picking. Abus locks can easily be picked in seconds as most of the locks on the market. if the alarm cna detect the picking it would be good, cus a lock picker would not have to move the lock to pick it.
The way the alarm works is if the lock is jiggled, it gives a 5 second delay warning. After that the alarm goes off.
I have seen a few videos of the joint attack. Doesn't take too long, but in those cases, they were attacking an Abus lock without an alarm. That may or may not make a difference.
I have another lock called by Pinhead that looks like it would be really tough to pick. Using that lock with the Abus, might be a good solution.
gearmashers.com/pinhead-lock-review/
I haven't heard of it before.
They were at Interbike last year and I thought their locks were rather interesting. Not sure if they will be there this year or not.
The lock is sensitive enough to detect movement on the handlebars despite only touching the frame & rear wheel.
I for one also lock it with the keyhole pointing towards the floor - Sometimes I can barely unlock it myself without triggering the alarm using its own keys so good luck picking one without triggering it.
Currently using this as a secondary lock to accompany my ulock to protect my ebike. It is VERY sensitive. It would be extremely difficult to pick it, considering I need to be tactful even just using the the regular keys to not set off the alarm. I think it makes for a great deterrent.
It's especially great as a secondary lock because it basically also acts as an alarm for your other lock(s). I quickly learned I need to lock this alarm after the U-Lock and unlock it before - simply fiddling with the U-Lock on the other end of the bike would trigger the alarm.
just wondering if your a thief you just remove the battery to avoid the noise?
Get a hip lock instead
What happens when you are about to unlock your own bike? It should give the warning beep when handling the lock? Haven't seen the unlocking procedure in any video review yet.
Hey Tompaah,
If you jiggle the lock, the warning beeps go off, if you are still jiggling it and haven't unlocked it, the alarm will go off.
I had the alarm go off on me already once because I had a hard time putting the key into the lock based on how it was positioned.
There's like a 3sec delay before it actually triggers the alarm when moved - Should you not be able to unlock it in that timeframe ( the keyhole is a bit finicky ) it'll do a 5sec Pre-Alarm and if movement still continues without it being unlocked it'll blast you with the full 100dB for the next 20sec or until the movement has stopped - That includes the entire bike as it's sensitive enough to detect that - Like someone trying to remove the front wheel while the lock only touches the rear one and frame.
Is this water resist?
I’m enjoying the bike so far th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
So far this lock due to the alarm & forever lock seem like good ideas. I know there are alarm pad locks too.
I haven't tried the forever lock. I sent them an email to see about getting their version 2 lock.
so far the Abus is appealing due to the alarm, also Forever lock due to the special lock, but one thing to remember is to not lose the key, but that's why you got spares, but you have to have it in a special container on key chain. chain locks is also a good idea, pad lock with alarm.
My review is up, I am finished testing the bracket/holder, I added your vid to the review, no point in me repeating everything, you already showcased this lock well.
wp.me/p60aTF-2SY
I also have a video of mine there, but I am testing the bracket to the extreme with drops, hitting chain guide.
How long is this? Is it long enough to use on a fat tire bike?
I wish I went with the longer one.
But can the battery be taken out while it's locked. Cause it looks like you can.
Hi @killerxtreme,
The battery can't be removed when locked. There is a locking pin that moves up, which locks the battery in place.
I had to drag out the lock to test it out. :-)
@@GearMashers That's good to know, as I feel that was a slight oversight in your video, and would be a HUGE oversight in the design of the lock.
@@KillerXtreme to be honest, I thought the same exact thing
Pourquoi ne pas avoir fait un doublage à la voix? La traduction écrite est très mauvaise et pendant qu'on lit on ne voit pas ce que la personne réalise.
So the one with alarm is rated 10, but the one without alarm is 15 ? 😮
Abus has various U locks with alarm too, if you prefer those over folding locks or if you want to use both. Would make rattling on the bikes / locks highly discouraging. The U locks would generally a bit safer though, folding locks are pretty weak in comparison - but of course way more space efficient.
0:23 I think that was done intentionally to make thrives ignore the bike just by looking at the lock, cus the lock will sing if you fiddle with it.
Hey.
I buyed this lock cause of your video, it is a nice lock.
But i don´t get how to use the system to put it on the bike when you are driving around, do you know how? :-)
Hi Joachim,
I normally carry the lock in a backpack or saddlebag. The lock holder also allows you to attach it it a water bottle mounting spot. If you have a rack, you could also Bungie it there.
Gear Mashers Thanks, for answer. But when I was buying it, I thought it was possible to mount it on the frame under the saddle? Isn’t it? And how? I don’t get the mount system.
@@joachimdreisig9287 It's probably too heavy to mount under the saddle. There is a plastic holder for the lock. You have to remove the lock from that. There are 2 holes in the plastic holder. Those holes should line up with with your bottle cage holes. You can then attach it there with the bottle cage screws. I thing the holder also has straps to make it more secure.
If you are still can't figure it out, I would just take your bike to a local bike shop and they should be able to get it mounted properly.
Tom Crandall I don’t have the bottle cage holes on my bike, but the recommendation on going to the bike shop is smart. Thanks
@@joachimdreisig9287 Depending on your bike frame, a bike shop could add bottle cage holes. I know ones around here do it.
Here is a do it yourself video, but I would recommend a bike shop do it for you.
th-cam.com/video/qNLo2rIw5M8/w-d-xo.html
Big thanks for such a comprehensive review, Tom!
Can be angle grinded in 20 seconds.
$200 for a lock
Do you know why the rating is so low 10 outta 15? would you still buy this?
Not really sure how they decide the rating. 10 out of 15 to me is still good. I would think a 15 would be heavy and probably use a chain.
My recommendation is to buy 2 locks from 2 different companies that use 2 different locking mechanisms. An example would be a U-Lock and a chain lock. It's a total pain, but that is probably the most secure method. Most thieves look for easy targets, like cable locks.
Also, don't leave your bike locked outside at night. That gives thieves way too much time to break the locks.
Gear Mashers Thank you for the quick reply,I got the Kriptonite evolution 120 cm chain and now the Abus Alarm comes today and I was going to send it back because I hear the alarm is just a gimmick, will see Greetings from Germany.
Cess Outdoors hi, how loud is the alarm? Is it like REALLY loud or just loud? Thanks
Abel Ramos loud , people will turn head and look what’s up.
@@abelramos1862 Up close it's pretty loud, but it certainly isn't as loud as a car alarm.
You can just put a silencer on the speaker, or burn it. It doesn't seem to go off with temp change.
You certainly could muffle the alarm, but that is just one more thing a thief would have to do. My guess is they will just move on to some other easier target.
silencer? no clue what you mean, if you over the lock or bike slightly alarm will go off, so taping sound dampening on it will result in the alarm going off before you can finish taping it on.
do you mean a spray? I guess that would work better.
As expensive as locks are getting,,, pretty soon people will be stealing the locks and leaving the bike.
Toast. abus bordo vs ramset th-cam.com/video/QGCgHiMYBpc/w-d-xo.html
i don't like those kind of locks they are flimsy, i would like to see this alarm system put into a good strong D-lock
The lock is pretty substantial, but it certainly can be defeated given the right tools. That said it is pretty tough.
I have yet to find a lock that can't be compromised by a good thief.
@@GearMashers in the end I went for an Oxford d-lock with an inbuilt 120db alarm and I pair that with an abus 15mm thick combination cable lock, pretty happy with it so far
@@korup7ion951 This lock seems great, how has it worked out?
@@MorganaDevina80 the lock is fine although the alarm is a little to sensitive, goes off even your just to unlock your bike