For your water, I have a similar creek/spring. I ran pipe about 150ft to a 50 gal tank as a settlement tank, and then That feeds into a 100gal tank. I never run out of water. I water the lawns in the early morning and the water builds back up for showers and dishes and then I water again at night. Amazing what a small creek/spring can do when it is running 24/7. I am looking forward to your next set of tests with the midnight.
My biggest problem is the distance to the water intake (3,179 feet) and only having a 1.9 inch I.D. pipe. What is your head-height or pressure and distance to your intake?
I am 400M and I get 21 PSI. That is enough for showers and low flow sprinkler. If I need more pressure, I run a 12v in-line pump that boosts it up to 60PSI.
@@robjohnston8632 Nice! A pipe size of 48mm at 20 GPM (76 LPM) could give you 88 watts, with a 80mm pipe it would jump up to 300 watts but you would need 70 GPM (265 LPM).
you might not see the improvements from the higher voltage batteries at the controller, but it will be less amperage on the wires to the batteries, so you'll be losing less.
We may need to look at a smaller PMA, since we don’t generate enough to charge the batteries. I was thinking to try use an alternator at the end of the pipe and maybe get some more power out of it. My system is even smaller than yours and doesn’t look like the PMA will do magic like I was hoping. I’ll keep looking and see if you figure it out. Thanks!
A smaller PMA (I believe that's what you mean) is a good idea and I will test some in the future. An alternator is not practical because they require about 50 watts just to excite the rotor, with these small systems, we can't afford to waste that much power. How much water pressure and flow do you have? That would determine how much power you could expect out of it. Thanks for posting.
@@robjohnston8632 ME1016 Generator (1000 watts @ 1000 RPM), ME2104 Adjustable 0.63" Spear nozzle, ME0903 Pelton 8" diameter, 12 spoon, 6.25" pitch. The housing is my own. So far the most power I've been able to get is 264.7 watts (that was with the 32 spoon Turgo).
What was you pressure loss? You should aim for 66% of you static pressure. That is the sweetspot for you pipe; Pressure VS Flow. Was that the point you regulated the nozzle to when you started the 24V test? But anyway, now as you have got the MPPT you can adjust the nozzle to get your last watt out of the system. Cool to follow your videos!!🙂
Static pressure is 70 PSI and set to 42 PSI when I ran that test but it varies between that and 47 PSI, so you are correct. I'll keep that in mind (46.2 PSI) Thanks for your input.
Nice! Btw how is that hughes net working out for you? I got starlink and its just so much better, lower latency and way faster over hughes. You can upload videos faster too!
HughesNet is just good enough to get by, Netflix and TH-cam work fine but as far as uploading videos and VoIP is very laggy. But it is $50 US cheaper than Starlink. For now it will do and I di plan on upgrading in the future (if I ever finish that old house). Thanks you for sharing.
For your water, I have a similar creek/spring. I ran pipe about 150ft to a 50 gal tank as a settlement tank, and then That feeds into a 100gal tank. I never run out of water. I water the lawns in the early morning and the water builds back up for showers and dishes and then I water again at night. Amazing what a small creek/spring can do when it is running 24/7. I am looking forward to your next set of tests with the midnight.
My biggest problem is the distance to the water intake (3,179 feet) and only having a 1.9 inch I.D. pipe. What is your head-height or pressure and distance to your intake?
I am 400M and I get 21 PSI. That is enough for showers and low flow sprinkler. If I need more pressure, I run a 12v in-line pump that boosts it up to 60PSI.
@@robjohnston8632 Nice! A pipe size of 48mm at 20 GPM (76 LPM) could give you 88 watts, with a 80mm pipe it would jump up to 300 watts but you would need 70 GPM (265 LPM).
you might not see the improvements from the higher voltage batteries at the controller, but it will be less amperage on the wires to the batteries, so you'll be losing less.
You are totally right and also requiring thicker wires, this does give us the option to choose lower battery arrays at minimum losses.
Try flash boil steam with a pelton turbine
@@Jkauppa That is a novel idea but that would be outside the scope of this series. Thanks for posting.
That charge controller does exactly what it's supposed to do. I'm looking forward to seeing the results with the larger turgo turbine!
Yes, I was hoping it would, unlike the Epever which was disappointing. Thanks for posting.
great video, keep doing ths
I will and thank you for your encouraging words.
We may need to look at a smaller PMA, since we don’t generate enough to charge the batteries.
I was thinking to try use an alternator at the end of the pipe and maybe get some more power out of it.
My system is even smaller than yours and doesn’t look like the PMA will do magic like I was hoping.
I’ll keep looking and see if you figure it out.
Thanks!
A smaller PMA (I believe that's what you mean) is a good idea and I will test some in the future.
An alternator is not practical because they require about 50 watts just to excite the rotor, with these small systems, we can't afford to waste that much power.
How much water pressure and flow do you have? That would determine how much power you could expect out of it. Thanks for posting.
What set up do you have? How many watts are you producing? I am interested in the different “small” systems.
@@robjohnston8632 ME1016 Generator (1000 watts @ 1000 RPM), ME2104 Adjustable 0.63" Spear nozzle, ME0903 Pelton 8" diameter, 12 spoon, 6.25" pitch. The housing is my own. So far the most power I've been able to get is 264.7 watts (that was with the 32 spoon Turgo).
@adipreli3982 I was hoping to hear what size system (pipe size and distance and head) you have and what you have created for your system.
@@robjohnston8632 pipe size 48 mm, distance 969 meters, head 49 meters (70 PSI). Power output so far is 264 watts.
Keep uploading more video
Will do, thanks for posting.
What was you pressure loss? You should aim for 66% of you static pressure. That is the sweetspot for you pipe; Pressure VS Flow. Was that the point you regulated the nozzle to when you started the 24V test?
But anyway, now as you have got the MPPT you can adjust the nozzle to get your last watt out of the system. Cool to follow your videos!!🙂
Static pressure is 70 PSI and set to 42 PSI when I ran that test but it varies between that and 47 PSI, so you are correct. I'll keep that in mind (46.2 PSI) Thanks for your input.
Nice! Btw how is that hughes net working out for you? I got starlink and its just so much better, lower latency and way faster over hughes. You can upload videos faster too!
HughesNet is just good enough to get by, Netflix and TH-cam work fine but as far as uploading videos and VoIP is very laggy. But it is $50 US cheaper than Starlink. For now it will do and I di plan on upgrading in the future (if I ever finish that old house). Thanks you for sharing.
What is the model hydro system you're using?
ME1016 Generator (1000 watts @ 1000 RPM), ME2104 Adjustable 0.63" Spear nozzle, ME0903 Pelton 8" diameter, 12 spoon, 6.25" pitch. The housing is my own.