The Biggest Problem with The 2025 Mustang GTD

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    A car that no one asked for but, is arguably very cool looking and will probably lay down great results with the right driver behind the wheel. However it is not delivering the value for the track rat it is targeting, and the rich person that buys it for their local car shows will never use it because it won't have the best road manners. The price point and the drivability of the car are really going to create a sales challenge for Ford. Would you spend $300,000 on a modified mustang?
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  • @1jiveturkey1
    @1jiveturkey1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Today, Mr. Spaghetti says Ford’s fancy dish is an expensive way to move crowds.

  • @jayxj7785
    @jayxj7785 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Dude has been salty with Ford ever since they rejected his GT application lol. Poor guy

  • @TechnicaX
    @TechnicaX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The GTD will be a masterpiece. It will be looked at as the shift for Ford going more special. The 50/50 weight with the transaxle will make it have a unique character. It's just the mustang name that is making people think cheap. This one is a keeper trust me.

  • @iamarobotninja
    @iamarobotninja 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This guy is telling us how the car feels a year into the future. Amazing!

  • @Jedcoe
    @Jedcoe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    Somehow the Ford GT being so expensive felt OK but a $300,000 mustang seems like a vanity project for the ultra rich. Can't they come up with a Corvette competitor instead? This thing isn't aspirational, it's designed to be someone's 15th car. It doesn't feel very Ford, and certainly doesn't feel very Mustang.

    • @lornenewhouse3183
      @lornenewhouse3183 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Isn't the GT500 basically a Corvette competitor?

    • @bruhice6058
      @bruhice6058 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I mean, this is right on par with the gay raptor

    • @williamegler8771
      @williamegler8771 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The Corvette and the Mustang aren't nor have they ever been competitors.
      They appeal to different buyers and those buyers don't cross shop.

    • @nfchance76
      @nfchance76 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think you hit the nail in the head. When this car comes out what people will be talking about is the ridiculous prices that people are paying for them. We will never see one on the road, maybe at some car shows.

    • @Xlaxe7
      @Xlaxe7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ford is not built the same like 30 years ago

  • @ferdis7
    @ferdis7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Idk why people think this is just a new GT500 or something... it's small production, with the performance to meet or exceed the likes of GT3RS etc, makes total sense to me.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They can not get past the Mustang badge.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'll tell you exactly why the think it's just another GT500 or whatever. It's because they don't have the intelligence to READ about this fantastic, hand built machine. They look at a picture or two of it and think they are experts on it! It's really sad and scary that much of the young generation seem to have given up on reading to learn about something! They act like 4 year olds and just look at pictures and think that's all they need to do to be an expert on something.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can definitely tell you why they think it's just a new GT500 or something. They haven't got the brains or even the common sense to READ about this very cool Mustang creation. All they do is look at pictures of it and share misinformation about it with their friends.

  • @ESPSJ
    @ESPSJ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't mind how it looks, it's quite aggressive. It doesn't really matter how much it costs with small production numbers, it will sell out.

  • @Loulovesspeed
    @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You say the 3rd gen. GT didn't get the engine it deserved. It got the engine that made it quite successful on the race track which was its primary venue, then as a street machine. All the whiners I heard and read of didn't have a clue as to why Ford chose the TTV6 because they never read the story of it's purpose, it's design requirements and they just couldn't imagine a V6 that was more than capable as any V8 they might have put in it. I watched the 2 TTV6 GTs almost effortlessly stomp the 2 factory C7R Corvettes over and over as well as the BMW M8. It didn't need a V8, it didn't get a V8, and it was very successful with a 647 HP TTV6!, including winning Le Mans exactly 50 years after the first GT40s! The GTLM class it ran in had power limitations to further make all the cars more competitive, so the winning Ford GT was 500hp instead of 647 and it was still victorious.

  • @redvivid
    @redvivid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    i think because its basically a road legal GT3 race car with low production numbers it kinda makes sense...

    • @rogerwilco1777
      @rogerwilco1777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the people that can afford it will never use it for its purpose though.. its gonna be a flipper car at best

    • @redvivid
      @redvivid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rogerwilco1777 yeah I agree.

    • @Royalties500
      @Royalties500 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What people aren't taking into account this is a racecar reverse engineered for the street.

  • @RunawayRampage1
    @RunawayRampage1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Do I agree with the $300k price tag? Not quite, but I could agree on maybe $250k for many reasons. They basically built this car from the ground up and used a whole array of new unique technology like the carbon fiber body that they haven’t done yet recently, the new dry sump engine, the inboard suspension, the designing it had to take to actually achieve the 50/50 weight distribution, and even the magnesium wheels. To price it under $250k would basically be spitting in the project teams face.

    • @TechnicaX
      @TechnicaX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree. I don't think people understand the technology behind this car. dry sump oil tank and a transaxle make a huge difference. Not just adding horsepower.

  • @technom3598
    @technom3598 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You guys dont understand th4 suspension on thr car. Its a cabon bodied 800h0 gt3rs with pushrod suspension... For same or less money than a gt3rs. Also lower production numbers. It isnt too much.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No most folks appearantly do not understand what Ford has revealed here in the GTD. They can't get past the Mustang badge and base their comments on the badging and price alone.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@richardmodglin3900 - I think you are right, along with the fact that fewer young people even bother reading today.

  • @themaster3331
    @themaster3331 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I spent more than 100k on a new truck 300k doesn’t sound as crazy as u think and I’m just working class garbage. This is fords way to make the collectors pay for r&ding their next list of goodies before they figure out how to make this for around 100k it’s smart and on the way we get some cool low number cars

  • @22lbsboost
    @22lbsboost 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol that ford GT superspeeders video is what brought me here

  • @EnthusiastsGarage
    @EnthusiastsGarage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When the GTD debuted I was in the “it’s too much for a mustang” crowd, 300k is well into the big boys club where you get into the ultra-exclusive cars. Then I started to really think about the overall picture. People pay over 300k for a GT2RS or GT3RS and no one says, “you played 300k for a 911 Carrera?!” what is an RS level 911, it is a heavily modified base 911 with very high-performance racing parts, a ton of R&D, and very low production numbers, this is the same receipt. While Porsche has a very impressive and lengthy racing pedigree, Ford has repeatedly shown us when they are willing to cut a blank check and burn a river of midnight oil, there isn’t really much they can’t do. If I remember correctly an Italian racing company laughed in their face years ago and got the surprise of their lives. Is this car going to be too much race car for the road, that remains to be seen as there is still a lot to learn since Ford has released very few details. Heck, we don’t even know what the inside looks like yet. I am hoping that this street legal race car has the amenities you would expect in a road car, yes, I hope they study the best ultra track focused road cars and soften the edge just enough to make the car enjoyable on the street. As far as the price is concerned, even though it isn’t finalized yet, it is about 25% more than a GT3RS. I hope that they can either bring it closer to 250K or make some of the supposed options, titanium exhaust, active aero, magnesium wheels, as standard equipment. No doubt that part of the price is exclusivity as this will not only be a very limited run given to a chosen few, but this may very well be the highest performance road legal ICE “Mustang” ever. I’m sure other brand loyalists will always dismiss this car as a “mustang” no matter how many records it beats or how capable it is but in reality, the GTD shares almost nothing with the mustang you buy from your local Ford dealer other than the name. I just hope Ford puts it in the hands of the right people.

  • @lovelehstuff
    @lovelehstuff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Everything he stated is why people will buy it, its a collectors item

  • @venom5809
    @venom5809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I love it, it looks wild, they will sell no problem. I was at the Woodward Dream Cruise today and you really need something to stand out there. I saw eleventy billion C8s there, swear to god at least 300 C8s today. The new and the old Ford GTs were amazing, had a sweet burgundy one behind me and then there was a Heritage one there too and then the king rolled up next to me, a Ferrari Monza SP2, gottdamn. Before seeing one in person I was like $2 million for one of those is crazy, then actually seeing one and people breaking their necks to see it I was like yeah, it's worth it.

  • @BullyBreaker
    @BullyBreaker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It better run on dark matter for that price

  • @CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky
    @CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I can tell you who won't pay 300k for a Mustang; me! 😂

    • @vthomas2482
      @vthomas2482 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @Jimmyxsx
      @Jimmyxsx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Says the guy with $1500 in his bank account😂

    • @CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky
      @CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😏 You missed one or two zeros

    • @Jimmyxsx
      @Jimmyxsx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky oh silly me $1500.00 there😆

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is on you.... not me.

  • @Steinerrides
    @Steinerrides 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think what will hurt is most is that at the end of the day, it's still a mustang. People see mustangs every day and probably wouldn't think much of this car if they saw one unless they're a car person and know what it is. But I think the average person is just going to see another mustang. When people see a ferrari or a porsche or a ford gt or some other high class car, they understand the status it represents. I don't know if this car will do that.

    • @burgerbandit3646
      @burgerbandit3646 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Bro what? 💀💀 Ain't no way anyone is gonna see that and think it's a regular Mustang. Even a GT350 breaks necks and gets looks and this is 2 feet wider lol. Thing looks like it's from 2077. If anything, car guys are the one that's gonna dislike it because they'll think "it's just a Mustang" reguardless of how good it performs because of brand loyalty. I believe this will get tons of attention on the street and folks wondering what it is.

    • @Steinerrides
      @Steinerrides 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@burgerbandit3646 Idk man, if my mom or friend saw this thing, they would think it's just a mustang. There is no way they'ed realize the status it represents. People will see this and just think its a modified mustang or something, they're not going to associate it with being a 300,000 dollar car.

    • @burgerbandit3646
      @burgerbandit3646 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @matthewstein9121 i highly doubt that. If Shelby Mustangs get lots of attention and are way closer in similarity, this will be a whole other thing. Reguardless, you're not paying for getting attention with the car, which I'm positive you'll get tons of. You're paying for its performance.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @matthewstein9121 - Just think of it as a 1953 Corvette 6 cylinder next to a C8 Z06. Would you think of that as just another Corvette? Guarantee you wouldn't!!

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This Mustang isn't made for "the average person" so it really doesn't matter what they do or don't think about it! Those relatively few that will be able to buy one will know very well what this car is, and those that don't will find out pretty damned fast if they try and mess with it. They only plan to make 1-2,000 total at this time, and they will have no problem selling every one they make!

  • @jongeephotography
    @jongeephotography 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Cobra with a V8 and Matt Farah in it" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @douglasrizzo9210
    @douglasrizzo9210 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    It gives Ford a competition car for the track, but I think Rob is right, most will end up in upper class garages.

    • @freedomfox8183
      @freedomfox8183 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Obviously nobody can afford a $300,000 base price mustang, except the rich and collections we will never see on the road

    • @venom5809
      @venom5809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's $300,000, that's the only garages it will end up in. LOL

  • @diegosilang4823
    @diegosilang4823 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Nice tech, but I think the C8 Corvette is a little better value.

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You cannot beat the C8 for value.....even the base version is the best bang for your buck on the market today. Here in Canada the base C8 starts at $78,000 CDN which is about $56K USD.

    • @freedomfox8183
      @freedomfox8183 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@muskokamike127you can't even touch a used one for less than 100K in any decent spec in the states ... They are a hot commodity

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@freedomfox8183 The prices are coming down as the used car market cools. Yes for sure 1 1/2 yrs ago you could buy one off the lot for $55K and take it to a dealer auction and get $90 for it. Not so much now. Not to mention you can walk into a dealer and get one for MSRP.
      Hoovie just sold his at Mecum I think and I don't think he got much over MSRP. I think his was a Z06 too.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Value? I don't think people buying a GTD are bargain hunting.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That would depend on just how you define "value." From a technical standpoint alone, this GTD is light years ahead of the Corvette!

  • @jeffomalley6015
    @jeffomalley6015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cbd is great but just go to the dispensary and get the good real stuff lol.

    • @FrankDBoyce
      @FrankDBoyce 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯

  • @Slimothy
    @Slimothy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    *The biggest problem is that the front looks like a 20k honda civic* 😹

    • @patricksantos361
      @patricksantos361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really does 😅

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Slimothy - Good news for you lad, your eye doctor called and your new specs are ready! Honda Civic? Wow, and I thought I had an imagination.

  • @ratedm90
    @ratedm90 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Who in their right mind would take this over a Porsche GT3?

    • @randyjr3479
      @randyjr3479 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There sold out 😅 lmao also there not even made by Ford really

    • @randyjr3479
      @randyjr3479 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not even a mustang

    • @jayxj7785
      @jayxj7785 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’d be surprised lol

    • @BRAINFxck10
      @BRAINFxck10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well it’s the same weight as a GT3 but 300 more HP and it’s more rare but personally I’d go GT4RS over both

    • @godspeed_smc401
      @godspeed_smc401 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BRAINFxck10Mustang gtd is the same weight as GT3 RS??? Where did you got this info?

  • @jaredlostetter265
    @jaredlostetter265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rob-What you think about the new merc gt?

  • @pali1H
    @pali1H 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Only big thing like this GTD that would be very difficult in the aftermarket is to make it transaxle with inboard suspension.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The wing is fixed not trunk mounted. That's not aftermarket stuff.

    • @pali1H
      @pali1H 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardmodglin3900 who said anything about the wing? We are talking about the transaxle and inboard suspension

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @pali1H
      Oh I agreed with you...I was just adding something else that would be problematic.
      Carry on.

    • @pali1H
      @pali1H 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@richardmodglin3900 oh haha gotcha. Sorry!

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @pali1H - Uhh, it already has a transaxle and a very sophisticated rear suspension to go with it. You obviously haven't seen the many diagrams and photos of it have you? It even has a carbon fiber driveshaft for lightness and better rotating mass.

  • @MrYAMAHA32177
    @MrYAMAHA32177 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Waiting to see what insane resale numbers rocket to on b.a.t?

  • @ttr1490
    @ttr1490 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People buy this still wayyy smarter than those who willing to pay 750k $ for a 3.0 CSL.

  • @stevedean418
    @stevedean418 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could buy 3 Shelby gt500 or have one built and the only thing a GTD can do that a GT500 isn’t built for is handle great on a track.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      May I remind you that a GT500 matched a GT3RS on a hot lap and beat a Lamborghini Hurican Evo priced at $332,000 as tested on lightning lap at Virginia International Raceway.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Then the GTD is clearly not a car for you! Keep your excellent, but way overweight GT500 so others can buy the GTD of their choice.

    • @jermsthekidd8015
      @jermsthekidd8015 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Loulovesspeedgt500 still has similar times and same engine 💀 the weight barely changes anything when they both have different distributions. also remind me how wide is the gtd again?

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @stevedean418 - "The only thing a GTD can do that a GT500 isn't built for is handle great on the track." Bingo mate! That is exactly what Ford built this car for - in GT3 form, and that is to race and win in FIA endurance racing and SCCA sports car racing. Don't mean to spoil the party for you but this GTD will also smoke the GT500 in acceleration because it has more power and will weigh a significant amount less than the GT500. As a bonus, it will increase in value due to it's limited availability and because it is a specialty vehcle, virtually hand made at Multimatic in Toronto, Canada. 🏆 🏁

  • @landrelarose745
    @landrelarose745 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, I know it will be a Ford, except it will be the ultimate Mustang. No, they aren't going to cell many of them, which is because of how much time each of them will be required to build. I'll type this to you; yes, it will be the ultimate Mustang. What's the purpose of this car? To homologate the race cars.hkw many of them will there to to do that? You'll need to ask the racing sanctioning body for that answer. I don't know it. After it comes off the floor of the factory someplace in the States of Michigan, it will be coming up here to be fitted with carbon fiber body panels and an incredible rear spoiler that will have active aero. The transmission and differential will vexin the same case as each other. There'll be a carbon fiber drive shaft I it. They'll keep the aluminum door panels, though. Oh, there'll be an equal weight distribution for this car. As for buying performance components from the aftermarket, no, you'll not be able to do it for the price of that Mustang GTD. Try buying those carbon fiber body panels for a regular Mustang. The engine along is 5

  • @2004lesk01
    @2004lesk01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it will be worth every cent and more! this is not a cobra r ? its next level.

  • @zerafians8145
    @zerafians8145 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    biggest problem....well thats the $300k for a Mustang thats fully modified. If it can with a Ford technician for a couple years/ 12 track visits a year for 2-4 years, then maybe. And thats only because you are paying for his services during put stops on your track day. The other issue is you HAVE TO BE a millionaire to consider this car and be making over $500k/year to consider buying this thing. Only ford with 6 figures is the GT.

  • @donovannez8231
    @donovannez8231 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a mustang is still a mustang no matter how much glitter it has

  • @yogibearstie
    @yogibearstie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How many states have the road quality to support ultra low ground effects? In CA those will be getting slammed.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @yogibearstie - Ride height is adjustable for the street or track.

  • @EddieIrvine106
    @EddieIrvine106 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a good article in todays WSJ that sums up the US car market

  • @basketball798
    @basketball798 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rob if Ford picked you we all know you would pay $500k for GTD. Let's not pretend the application process isn't the reason why you won't be getting one.

  • @RonnieLeeDuck
    @RonnieLeeDuck 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I get the points being made on the GTD. But I'm withholding judgement until I hear reviews from the civilian public about how it handles and what the interior is like. It seems like Ford has done a nice job in recent years in producing high end performance vehicles that make the driver confident and enhances their driving ability.

  • @dct124
    @dct124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't hear any audio Rob 🤷🏾‍♂️
    * NVM, had to click on another's video, then back. Odd, even closing YT didn't work. All good 👌🏿

  • @carculturenation2166
    @carculturenation2166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    nobody is buying this to be a car show guy til they get to go with there ford collection. this is handmade by multimatic 50/50 weight distribution 800 hp.. much heavier gt500 was able to run within a second or faster than cars like Ferrari f8 tributo huracan evo and gt3rs. now you go mor power less weight better weight distribution. Not meant for Mustang owners not meant for gt500 owners. Being a multimatic race car its meant to be for Ford GT guys

    • @venom5809
      @venom5809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, got a neighbor who is investment banker and Ford is one of his clients. He has a real 427 Cobra, a new and an old Ford GT and guessing he will get one of these.

  • @earlmoorhead5555
    @earlmoorhead5555 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Same ppl who bought the 120m gt 40 in 2006

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That 2006 you refer to is not a GT40, just a Ford GT and it retailed for $150,000.

  • @mr_jdes
    @mr_jdes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bring on the c8 zr1 track pack 😉

  • @HENRYPAN19
    @HENRYPAN19 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From what I’ve seen this car look like a LFA type thing in the making. With all those cutting edge tech build for the track this feels like a homologation special. 300k is only fair for this type of machinery, if you only care about brand you’re just not a real car enthusiast.

  • @mchristr
    @mchristr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's curious that some guys--usually with a huge following--say they love cars but are constantly wheeling and dealing their stable. Reminds me of a man who says he loves women but can't keep one for very long. He is never satisfied, which is why he really doesn't love cars.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mchristr - Great analogy Sir! Spot on.

  • @Autocreatorz
    @Autocreatorz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    like the 😈 170, its mostly a track car and its only 116k

  • @christophercrowley6707
    @christophercrowley6707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whoa whoa, I just said something on dude in blu channel, the Ford people freaked out

  • @deepwebintel
    @deepwebintel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who does ford to expect to sell this new mustang to? Besides collectors & youtubers who buy for views I don’t see an actual market for them.
    I think Ford would be better off selling a Ford GT with a 900HP Coyote V8, there would be hundreds of people willing to pay 800K - 1.2M for one from factory. (Remember the new Ford GT was originally 450K starting & about 600K fully loaded).
    At 300K (before dealer markup) there are a lot of options.
    The 2012-2014 Aventadors with around 6K miles are selling for anywhere between 250K-280K, which is not only under MSRP but an amazing value.
    I think it’s cool they’re making a road legal mustang track car but it’s almost unreasonable at 300K, It would be great at 150K-170K but not at 300K.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @deepwebintel - Ford will only make between 1,000 and 2,000 - that's all, and they will sell every one just like they did with the 3rd gen Ford GT. There are very few options for this car, so that is not an issue. Don't have to worry about dealer markup as they aren't involved with the sales aspect of it, just like the Ford GT. 300K may be "almost unreasonable" to YOU, but to the ultimate buyers of this machine they won't even bat an eye!

  • @Xlaxe7
    @Xlaxe7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its called Ford performance for a reason guys LoL

  • @rrennnerr
    @rrennnerr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    He is the play to purchase one of these: 1) Ford starts production on these. They do not sell well. 2) 10 years from bow they are $120,000-$180,000k. 3) Buy at the sub $200,00 and wait another 10 years for gear heads ti reminence about how “great that car was.”

    • @BRAINFxck10
      @BRAINFxck10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That’s not gonna work because the sale process is like the Ford GT, low allocation numbers will keep the prices up, the only way to get it sub $200k is with a salvage title but then it’ll cost a lot to get new parts for this thing

    • @rrennnerr
      @rrennnerr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BRAINFxck10 It is a shot in the dark, yes, but this happened with the LFA.

  • @abigalanderson7494
    @abigalanderson7494 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Today mr Spaghetti reminds us oregano makes you sleepy.

  • @jonathanmckay5820
    @jonathanmckay5820 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would

  • @FATmenDRIVEtrucks
    @FATmenDRIVEtrucks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If I win the lottery sure why not

  • @cbtorture69
    @cbtorture69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its not a street car, it's just street legal. The gt350 non r is probably the best street mustang, it's not too uncomfortable for long drives and very fun to drive.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Between the Recaro seats and adjustable suspension this GTD should be fine.

  • @texascertifiedroofing5027
    @texascertifiedroofing5027 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m applying but most likely won’t get approved

  • @michaelbaka4777
    @michaelbaka4777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No A/C??? That's a deal-breaker for me. A "look at me!!!" car at that price point should at least coddle the driver a bit. As Rob said, where's the fun in THAT??? Not denying it's a very cool looking car. But $300 large for a Mustang? Seriously?? Big no from me.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You want to get coddled? Buy a Rolls Royce.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh I think the top of the line Recaros would coddle you just fine!

  • @jmb283gt3
    @jmb283gt3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We’ll see these on BaT with fewer than a hundred miles for about $2 million in a few years

  • @doggedlydetermined7022
    @doggedlydetermined7022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They will sell every single one of these and then some

  • @WoolfJ35
    @WoolfJ35 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's probably going to be sold out initially by the flippers, but I feel like the actual demand for these won't be that high. Plus the ZR1 C8 is around the corner and the Zora is a 2025 model as well, and I'm willing to bet that those max out at 250k so that's going to be a tough sell imo. But then again some people are weird so who knows

    • @ImARealHumanPerson
      @ImARealHumanPerson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ford will probably prohibit resale for 2 years like they did with the new GT.

    • @WoolfJ35
      @WoolfJ35 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ImARealHumanPerson hopefully so these flippers can lose their ass on this car lol just imagine the fact that someone is going to buy a Mustang for half a million dollars lol

    • @venom5809
      @venom5809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@WoolfJ35 Flippers didn't lose money on the new GT, still sold for over a million after the two year period ended. Wait two years and double your money, seems pretty good to me.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@WoolfJ35
      What you said would be funny had we not seen everything Ford did to build this car. What's funny is you laughing at the Mustang badge but ignoring all other information.

    • @GODWITHUS0712
      @GODWITHUS0712 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just wait until Ford makes the new GR1 newer than anything Chevy will produce

  • @windronner1
    @windronner1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This reminds me of the Bmw new replacement CSL. which is priced for more than throwing same body kit on standard models. So why bother???

  • @neeravreddy9360
    @neeravreddy9360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People saying this now is a sure sign this will be a future classic. People said the same about the Lexus lfa

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trust me when I say, with all due respect for the Lexus, this car has a ton of high tech components from the inboard rear suspension and massive carbon fiber brakes, to the carbon fiber driveshaft for additional lightness and rotational stability.

  • @teestanmintiendo7842
    @teestanmintiendo7842 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    once they mandate all electric cars, all gas stations close, and outlaw any tailpipe emissions, what will these collector cars be worth, when it is impossible to actually drive them? sorry to burst all the bubbles out there! waiting for the hate comments, please bring them on!

  • @ChasingDifferentAdventures
    @ChasingDifferentAdventures 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If i had money to throw away I would Buy the Mustang GTD if it had a 3rd Pedal 6 or Like the C7 Corvette a 3rd Pedal 7 Speed Manual Transmission..
    I am Currently Driving the Best mustang made in 2022 the Roush. With the Rev-Match Tremec 6 Speed, with MagneRide Suspension, and Limited Slip, intercooled Rear Differential (GT500 Differential) it is S/N: 22.0001.450R, this is Why I will Not Sell it. Even if I am Offered $1 million USA 👨🏻👍🏻🏎🏎🏁🏁🚩🚩

  • @waty0usay1
    @waty0usay1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You would and that's not a kapp.

  • @mytwocoins
    @mytwocoins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn’t pay that much for fresh cheese in case it ages poorly.
    It is the best looking mustang ever though!
    Ford will sell a million with the turbo four and six cylinder engines.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mytwocoins - Yeah, I hear the turbo 4 GTDs will only be $190,000. Dude, I think that you have aged poorly, or maybe haven't aged at all!

  • @RonnieLeeDuck
    @RonnieLeeDuck 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding the future value of the Ford GT. This is a classic example of someone who is probably right, but for all the wrong reasons. Ford long ago has been vindicated with going with the V6. That is not the problem. A problem it appears is that no mechanic shop wants to touch maintenance of the Ford GT engine. That makes owning one problematic unless you want to use it for show.

  • @johnnychimpo7539
    @johnnychimpo7539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s actually insane to think that the ford gt didn’t sell well. It was a remake of a historic race car, fast loud, looks amazing and not crazy expensive. It makes no sense. I was 16 at the time and I wanted one but who knew they would quadruple in value

    • @410ytlmustang
      @410ytlmustang 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's because ford ruined it with the ecoboost engine.
      From what I've read, most all purist wanted a v8 as it should have been. That's why they HAD to come out with the v8 raptor in my opinion.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @johnnychimpo7539 - That was the 2005, 2006 Ford GT that didn't quite sell their target number. The 3rd. gen. GT with the TTV6 had over 9,000 applicants for it and the sold approx 1,500, which was right on target.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@410ytlmustang - Ford ruined nothing with the TTV6. The engine was light, very powerful and extremely reliable. It also toasted the butts of the big boy competitors like the C-7 Corvette and BMW M8 competitors. The ones complaining that it was no good without a V8 had about as much technical understanding as the 3 Stooges! The V6 certainly didn't hurt the sales of it as Ford sold every one they had planned to. Over 9,000 potential buyers applied to buy one and just 1,500 were successful! How many V8 cars do you know that have a 216mph top speed? Didn't think so.

    • @johnnychimpo7539
      @johnnychimpo7539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Loulovesspeed thanks captain obvious

    • @raionshishi8290
      @raionshishi8290 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnnychimpo7539 Doesn't seem so obvious if people are so oblivious and ignorant in the clueless shit they say

  • @minixglizzy.923
    @minixglizzy.923 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rob supporting cbd products? I think yes! legalize it!

  • @SteveSfortheWin
    @SteveSfortheWin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hmmm let me see what I should buy....1 Mustang GTD or 3 Mustang Shelby GT500?????

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      .....and none of those 3 GT500's you chose will hang with 1 GTD around a track.

  • @iamarobotninja
    @iamarobotninja 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How much money have you thrown into that garbage can corvette?

  • @syedmakbul8414
    @syedmakbul8414 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a limited track car, I am surprised it sint more

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was hoping Dodge and Chevrolet would hit back.......but then I saw the price 😂

    • @goldenferrari7785
      @goldenferrari7785 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you expect a street legal race car with parts from f15 and f22 fight jets to be cheap or something?

  • @ChoochMcGuffin
    @ChoochMcGuffin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    300k for a racecar isn't too bad when you see a 911 RSR is double the price

    • @Michael-pi8ps
      @Michael-pi8ps 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah but when you buy a RSR you get more than just the car. You get a whole bunch of factory support as well

    • @Chris-hw4mq
      @Chris-hw4mq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a 911 will do laps all day long, who knows how reliable the mustang is

    • @JoeMaters
      @JoeMaters 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      RSR? Lmao, the RS already sells for double this car and is the direct competitor this car is aiming. No idea why even mention a race car when this is a street car..

    • @Australiaisupsidedown
      @Australiaisupsidedown 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      rsr is a actual race car not a street car posing as one

  • @drtydsh
    @drtydsh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its obv the world is in a weird place rn, car guys with money didnt have this investment mentality back in the day and its kinda sickening.

  • @jim99west46
    @jim99west46 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GT500 barely gets 150 miles on a tankfull when pushed hard. This one will need mobile refueling.

  • @iamarobotninja
    @iamarobotninja 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm going to buy it 300k and when they win the gt class at Le Mans I'll sell it for 450k 👍

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @iamarobotninja - Not until 2 years after you buy it.

  • @gerardcrabb4556
    @gerardcrabb4556 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's a carbon Racecar that looks like a Mustang you can't mod a Mustang to be a GT-D...

  • @legacyturbo8485
    @legacyturbo8485 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Who in their right mind would buy a mustang for track racing at 300k ..!!! No thanks I’d buy a Porsche way before ..!! This will be a tough sell ..!! If they think that the for gt was a hard sale they haven’t seen nothing yet ..!!!

    • @christenn32
      @christenn32 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tough sale? It'll be sold out as soon as they approve the applicants. LOL

    • @legacyturbo8485
      @legacyturbo8485 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@christenn32 in this economy ..!! I highly doubt it ..!! For 300k you get way better than a track mustang ..!! How about you get something that’s great for the road and track ..!!

    • @christenn32
      @christenn32 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @legacyturbo8485 this isn't a typical Mustang, though. It's a street legal track car with a world class suspension & drivetrain. It's designed to be faster than a Porsche GT3.

    • @legacyturbo8485
      @legacyturbo8485 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@christenn32 still not worth 300k doesn’t matter how you slice or dice it ..!!! It’s a mustang not an exotic ..!!!

  • @QBDLettuce
    @QBDLettuce 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why does this discussion never come up when BMW or Mercedes or any other manufacturer releases a special model that costs insane amounts of money?
    Why does this only come up when it's Ford, Chevy or Dodge? Intrinsic bias.
    The amount of work and changes that have gone into the GTD are actually crazy. It's a homologation racecar for the road. It's like buying your own GT3 car that you can daily.
    Ford has earned the right to charge this much for something they put more work into than alot of Euro "special editions" that do less but cost even more.

  • @stefanpetrov8
    @stefanpetrov8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The car is amazing, it's just that people will be hesitant to pay that much for a "Mustang" even tho the GTD is as far from a Mustang as the Mustang Mach E. I have a feeling had it been a new platform with a new name, people would easily buy it. Now, because it's a "Mustang", people will be hesitant.

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler2112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you saying Ford is planning to sell the GTD w/o AC and a sweet audio system like the Cobra R? I highly doubt that...they certainly looked closely at the Porsche GT2 when laying this car out as it has so many things in common. I owned at GT2 for three years and yes they would kill you in a heartbeat if you got stupid and would set any track prod car record you drove on if you had the driving chops, but they were also great street cars. i would expect Ford to insure the same is true withe the GTD

  • @mcapps1
    @mcapps1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Spaghetti Ferreti is selling drugs to buy the new mustang.

  • @dancundiff3316
    @dancundiff3316 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll keep my 2017 GT350R all day long.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @dancundiff3316 - Yeah, that is until a GTD comes upon you on the highway and fries your Won Tons! LOL

    • @dancundiff3316
      @dancundiff3316 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Loulovesspeed ?? What does that mean?

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dancundiff3316 - Your GT350R is a great machine without a doubt, but it is nowhere near the GTD in its build technology or its abilities on the track - completely different car! That's what I meant.

    • @dancundiff3316
      @dancundiff3316 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Loulovesspeed Of course, I agree. At 64, my R is already way o my talents, it's just the last one for me, in a long line of LA built Shelby cars/

    • @dancundiff3316
      @dancundiff3316 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Loulovesspeed Way above darn it!

  • @FastToysClub
    @FastToysClub 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regardless of your opinion, since it’s a limited production, they will sell out like hot cakes; just like the new Ford GT. And they won’t be driven, like the new Ford GT. Just purchased to flip them at some point.

  • @williamegler8771
    @williamegler8771 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    They will sell every one they build and most will probably carry significant dealer markups.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You will never see a GTD for sale in a Ford dealership.

    • @JoeMaters
      @JoeMaters 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      they are sold directly by FORD at STICKER

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @williamegler8771 - They won't be subject to any markups as Ford Headquarters is controlling the sales of them, not dealers.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Loulovesspeed
      Yep!
      I wonder ,though how much the options are ....or the cost of a fully optioned GTD

    • @williamegler8771
      @williamegler8771 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Loulovesspeed Until they are resold by flippers

  • @The-fs5wn
    @The-fs5wn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You seriously complained about the lack of air conditioning in a Cobra R? It’s a stripped down track car, air conditioning doesn’t matter. Really sounding biased here. Would you say the same about a GT Black Series? No, because it’s from your precious Germany. Honestly, think about the purpose of the car before you judge it for the price and brand name alone.

  • @dslynx
    @dslynx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don't get it. $300k, there are a lot "better" options available. Heck, I'd rather have a C8.

    • @technom3598
      @technom3598 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It won't be as fast but go ahead and take the rental car

  • @2011blueman
    @2011blueman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It looks like a terrible body kit on a mustang. I'd much rather have a Porsche GT3 touring.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @2011blueman - Good for you! You watch the taillights of the GTD for a millisecond as it blows by you!

  • @e92bimmergamer69
    @e92bimmergamer69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People that have a bigger wallet than a brain 🧠 that price is asking for a lung and two legs

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The list of goods on the GTD is long and legit. You better throw in a right arm as well. You get what you pay for it this world.

  • @darrylrichardson1997
    @darrylrichardson1997 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂people with deep pockets like you

  • @johnnyfive1412
    @johnnyfive1412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What does GTD stand for?

    • @MichaelSmith-jv7zm
      @MichaelSmith-jv7zm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It means more than you can afford buddy

    • @johnnyfive1412
      @johnnyfive1412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@MichaelSmith-jv7zm --- Not your buddy pal.

    • @sunsetlights100
      @sunsetlights100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Quick Google says says new GTD Mustang named for the IMSA Grand Touring Daytona GTD class,

  • @visekual6248
    @visekual6248 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don't even understand how the ford GT sold, who would pay twice as much as a Ferrari or Lamborghini for a Ford, but it sold, so I think this Mustang will sell, even at that price point that doesn't make any sense.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You mean the Ford GT that now sells used for a million + dollars?

  • @hksp
    @hksp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ill get a ugr sto

  • @JimmyJinIA
    @JimmyJinIA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IMO, the side profile looks like a GTR with a Camaro front end...just not Mustang.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, that's why Ford left the taillights in Mustang form so other track drivers know they got passed by a Ford Mustang.

  • @DjStiv3
    @DjStiv3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im not a mustang fan but.. people are paying 300k for a 22b sti thats 25 years old.... sooo yeah. People is dumb

  • @madjh8
    @madjh8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It has some lines of a porsche 911? probaly Im a bit obsessed with the 911. Sorry but I´m more in that line than in the new Mustang.🚗

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's fine. It's a killer car.

  • @CarsofGlasgow
    @CarsofGlasgow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2017 GT coughs in corner

  • @92vanguard
    @92vanguard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The problem is they're shooting for Porsche GT3 RS and should be aiming for Corvette ZO6.

    • @Jimmyxsx
      @Jimmyxsx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Corvette z06 is no match for this car, it was no match for the Gt3.

    • @richardmodglin3900
      @richardmodglin3900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Jimmyxsx
      Exactly.
      So many folks have no clue what Ford has unveiled here. They can't get past the Mustang logo and price.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@richardmodglin3900 - You just hit the proverbial nail right square on the head! Most sensible comment in this entire video. They are completely clueless because they can't read, or are too f.....g lazy to. 😎 👍

  • @Chaosoftheunicorns
    @Chaosoftheunicorns 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did anyone want a pre riced mustang for over a quarter mil?

  • @raionshishi8290
    @raionshishi8290 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't this video kinda disrespecting the people who built this car or people who are interested in buying it ? People who are gonna buy this car are people who are hand picked by Ford, people who should be aware and are aware that this car isn't a simple daily car or something that can be easily driven with no skill. Ford also makes sure you are gonna use it and race it with their application as that's the whole point, most people interested in buying one are well aware of these facts and have posted videos on TH-cam literally based on this fact, so stop acting like people are clueless. This car is priced right, 130-150k is ridiculous to consider when a C8 ZO6 is already hitting 200k and is nowhere near this cars level of performance, most cars at 130-150k don't have anything this car has at all or is capable as this car, and is again an insult to the people who built this car and the amount of work they put into it. If you think it's easy and cheap or should be than go ahead and built your own. I feel like it's mostly opinions without actual thought put behind it. The whole issue here with people trying to tell Ford to make a Corvette competitor with the Mustang is ridiculous considering they were never rivals, that is where the Camaro should be but they discontinued it, Ford aren't required to change the Mustang to beat the Corvette either or make a Corvette competitor. Sure people will argue Ford is losing out on competing against it, but Chevy is losing out competing against Ford with their Mustang, Raptor, Bronco, Ford GT and many more cars they have made, so why not argue those points too ? The ones complaining that this is no good have about as much technical understanding as the 3 Stooges.

  • @drunkpolack7612
    @drunkpolack7612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most guys into mustangs that have that kinda of money to drop on a car are just modifying their gt’s and gt500’s 🤷‍♂️

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @drunkpolack7612 - They can modify them until they retire and they will never compete with this machine! You can only do so much modifying. This GTD is a whole new ballgame - try reading more about it.