Gladiators, Knights, Jousters, Mandingos, Athletes. Rich men have always owned slaves for entertainment. They keep them blind and happy with the same things they always have. A small taste of luxury … booze, women, fame, clothes, stuff. It’s never compared to the owners enormous wealth, and the rest of us have always participated clapping and cheering like seals.
do u really think a ufc fighter should make the money Dana makes ?? you're crazy bro top athletes getting Bags and glory as they should owners usually aren't making money off the team some leagues yeah
@@gregoryjones7712 Never said they should make what the owner makes, but you just picked the absolute worst example. UFC keeps like 90% of all revenue. Surely anyone with a brain can see that’s wrong.
@@avgppltalking Not the worst example at all The UFC is a promotion and league its independent contractors making deals with the UFC basically Does the UFC sell PPV or now streaming services because of fighters ?? like Jon Jones or aspinal probably not the League it self UFC sells paperviews because of the name opening fighters on a card draw literally nobody and should be paid like that Jon Jones on the other hand is sighing 6 mills guaranteed thats before the PPV sales
Please do not compare college athletes to slaves. Most D1 athletes are given full ride scholarships worth hundreds of thousands of $. While I agree with collegiate athletes getting paid, the "slave" argument is extremely disingenuous. That being said, I do not know what percentage of D1 athletes get full ride scholarships. I personally believe it should be ALL of them. And I 100% agree with NIL. But don't call them gladiators, knights, jousters, mandingos, or slaves. That's ridiculous
@RayM-tt5pi all over the country you can find educational purposes of colleges underfunded, being cut, etc...while athletics programs and it's accessories get newer nicer stuff ever year. That is where the money goes back to the sports team
Baseball is doing something similar. Suspending players for gambling while!LB promotes gambling on in all their advertising. Sportscasters announce the odds.
2004: Man, America is so weird. Their betting culture is so skeevy and hidden due to it being illegal... but also, seemingly everyone does it. 2024: Man, America is so weird. Their betting culture is so mainstream and out in the open to the point where you'd have to make an effort to not find odds... but also, seemingly everyone hates it.
@@synchronium24 or just ban all gambling. You honestly can't see how collusion would take place when you have young 18ish year old young men offered the opportunity to make tons of money off fixing games lol. This is why it is banned. Or how easily a person can be exploited due to accrual of debt gambling which happens to people all the time because gambling is addictive. Well people exist that will help them with those dumb debts all they have to do is say throw one specific game.
@@synchronium24 how are you going to prove it if betting is allowed? I mean I get it you said hey don't abuse this thing in the easily predictable way that we know it will be because I said not to. It'd be nearly impossible to determine if players' collusion sank a game for their profit rigging games.
Athletic students have such an advantage since those are most of all the scholarships. And we are so devoted to making sure all athletes get everything we've convinced them they deserve for an activity whose results mean nothing in two years. Because people gamble on sports.
This is NOT the point anyone is trying to make, like at all. "Value" is completely subjective. We aren't post-scarcity, we aren't post currency, so people get paid in accordance with what society deems valuable. Entertainers are valuable in any and every society, and they deserve not to be exploited, like any other worker.
Chuckling at how this guy got out of going to jail bc he was telling the attorneys everyone is doing it and then just has a wire and everyone just falls for the money... so easy xD
Yes, the subject of NIL (name image likeness) is discussed in this clip. However, using Caitlin Clark as the thumbnail image while her name is not mentioned even once is very clickbaity and wrong. Shame, shame, MR.
They should just end college sports and start a bunch of amateur leagues. The whole point of college athletics was to pay for college. It has gotten ridiculous.
This guy is a terrible interview. Just rambles on and doesn’t complete thoughts, way too self-referential, and only seems to only know about half of what he thinks he does
While I'm 100% on board with paying college athletes, I do not agree with the sentiment that they were completely taken advantage of financially to play college sports. Most D1 athletes were given full rides (in my opinion, every collegiate athlete should get full ride scholarships). I also thought it was ridiculous that the popular athletes (football and basketball players) couldn't financially benefit from signing autographs or other things they did on their own time. The rules against athletes selling gifts they got from the NCAA from bowl games and such were also ridiculous. BUT, you can't ignore that these athletes were given scholarships worth hundreds of thousands of $ So, while I agree with pretty much all of this, the argument that they're basically "slaves" is extremely disingenuous. Getting free tuition from a university that most students walk away from with $100k+ of debt is not "slave labor." Please don't argue like I'm against NILs. I'm 100% for all college athletes getting paid P.S. I do not know the percentage of D1 athletes that are given full rides, so don't attack me on that either. Especially since I already stated that all collegiate athletes should be given full rides
Just because an analogy is not 100%, it doesn't mean it is not true. Non documented mirgrants picking lettuce for less than minimum wage, or working at McDonalds for $10/hr, or peeing in a bottle at Amazon, or waitresses making $2/hr because they get "tips" is slavery. Something can't be morally wrong at $0/hour and be ok (legal, morally, ethically) at $2/hr. There is a gray scale. Mostly black is still black, mostly white is still white (puns intended). Please expand your thinking process.
You know you can bet on an ncaa game, they charge big prices to watch ncaa games and even attend ncaa games. How are the kids still considered amateurs? Because they can’t have a contract of their own. Why do pro players with kids who end up in college sports go for this bs or they just getting paid a lot more to keep quiet. They should definitely be in the know.
Because they are amateurs compared to the pros and that bears out consistently every year. The best of these amateurs are often just ok the first couple years in the majors. You don't hear pros complaining about it because they were good enough to make it in the pros while most the people complaining never made it past amateurs.
@@TheEvolver311 "I had an accident as an athlete in college, which fucked my body up forever, but I got 0 compensation and 0 help, despite it being a multimillion dollar industry. And now THEEVOLVER tells me I'm just whiny and not good enough". Do you even listen to yourself?
@sebastianlavallee706 you should have had your scholarship honored. People get hurt all the time and don't get anything for it. You get hurt playing a game and getting a free ride at university doesn't really sound that special. My brother went to college, accumulated tons of debt(like anyone else who went with no scholarship), was on a job site and a guy knocked over the scissor lift he was in and he plummeted 30+ feet to the concrete, broke ever bone on the right side of his body, rupture numerous organs, and will suffer from chronic pain for the remainder of his life, he also still had all that debt, is unemployable in the field he went got the debt getting the education, and barely qualifies for any assistance. Couldn't sue any company and the guy who did it was broke so you could sue for nothing. Also why did you feel the need to lie and say I said you were whiney? You are a liar since you lied about that.
@@TheEvolver311 Ah, you don't have any reading comprehension. That explains a lot.^ Edit: I feel bad for your brother having to deal with you implying anyone in those circumstances deserve it and nothing should be done.
the real good ones the ones who are literally nfl level totally getting paid Big dollars in college trust me. its the average guys not making money but they just need good guys to fill the roster
Like I understand trolls and bigots exist, but why are you frontloading bigotry before it's even here? It feels like your leaning into it, while also ostensibly being against it. Like a video that includes a black person, and you immediately comment "any racism about black people eating watermelon and being lazy will be reported", like you're kinda advancing the stereotype. I haven't even heard much bigotry about Caitlin not fitting feminine gendered stereotypes.
@@idakev I want to give the benefit of doubt, but you might be right, that or an incredibly misguided person. Even their name seems like a strawmaning trolls version of what a leftist thinks, as if any rational person think ALL women are deserving of respect by men, simply by virtue of them being women and men respectively. It's like one step away from "allwhitepeopleshouldrespectallblackpeople", someone being a woman, or black, or gay does not demand immediate respect, although obviously we all have a base level of humanity we should acknowledge, even if some of us use our humanity and marginalized status to attack other people for simply existing.
@@ComradeCatpurrnicus reported about your comment on the black community. What you said was completely vile. Something well intended for Kaitlin yet you are stirring up negative nonsense.
Easy fix. Stop playing college sports for teams that will use you to make them richer. You are there for an education not play paddy cake in manufactured sports rivalries.
Maybe not so easy, when you think about how many student athletes are there on an athletic scholarship, since they couldn't afford college any other way.
He actually clips his show to put it on TH-cam. He has a pretty good subscription base and paid advertisers on his podcast that he hosts on his own site
Anybody else find it it odd that while the Columbia University protests were going on that the MR crew, based in NYC, never sent anyone down to cover the protests live?
Gladiators, Knights, Jousters, Mandingos, Athletes. Rich men have always owned slaves for entertainment. They keep them blind and happy with the same things they always have. A small taste of luxury … booze, women, fame, clothes, stuff. It’s never compared to the owners enormous wealth, and the rest of us have always participated clapping and cheering like seals.
do u really think a ufc fighter should make the money Dana makes ?? you're crazy bro top athletes getting Bags and glory as they should owners usually aren't making money off the team some leagues yeah
@@gregoryjones7712 Never said they should make what the owner makes, but you just picked the absolute worst example. UFC keeps like 90% of all revenue. Surely anyone with a brain can see that’s wrong.
@@avgppltalking Not the worst example at all The UFC is a promotion and league its independent contractors making deals with the UFC basically Does the UFC sell PPV or now streaming services because of fighters ?? like Jon Jones or aspinal probably not the League it self UFC sells paperviews because of the name opening fighters on a card draw literally nobody and should be paid like that Jon Jones on the other hand is sighing 6 mills guaranteed thats before the PPV sales
Please do not compare college athletes to slaves. Most D1 athletes are given full ride scholarships worth hundreds of thousands of $. While I agree with collegiate athletes getting paid, the "slave" argument is extremely disingenuous.
That being said, I do not know what percentage of D1 athletes get full ride scholarships. I personally believe it should be ALL of them. And I 100% agree with NIL.
But don't call them gladiators, knights, jousters, mandingos, or slaves. That's ridiculous
@@evensteven1950 "A well paid slave is still a slave"- Curt Flood
Right wing ghouls all over this
Does me supporting an anti-LGBTQ+, anti-women’s rights, sharia-law regime make me a ‘right ghoul,’ if so, pro-🇵🇸 PIONEER ‘right ghoul’.
If the coaches can make 8 figures. Why can't the college players.
Non of them should, college sports have been nothing butba drain on higher education
👏 👏
Exactly!
@@TheEvolver311 they bring in a lot of money for the schools. That's why coaches get paid so much
@RayM-tt5pi all over the country you can find educational purposes of colleges underfunded, being cut, etc...while athletics programs and it's accessories get newer nicer stuff ever year. That is where the money goes back to the sports team
Evolver missing the point that college students are the ones bringing in revenue through their efforts and time while not getting compensated for it.
Baseball is doing something similar. Suspending players for gambling while!LB promotes gambling on in all their advertising. Sportscasters announce the odds.
So? They also promote beer, sell beer at events and yet would penalize athletes for showing up to compete drunk.
2004: Man, America is so weird. Their betting culture is so skeevy and hidden due to it being illegal... but also, seemingly everyone does it.
2024: Man, America is so weird. Their betting culture is so mainstream and out in the open to the point where you'd have to make an effort to not find odds... but also, seemingly everyone hates it.
@@synchronium24 allowing players to bet on games they will have an impact on the outcome of is moronic.
@@synchronium24 or just ban all gambling.
You honestly can't see how collusion would take place when you have young 18ish year old young men offered the opportunity to make tons of money off fixing games lol. This is why it is banned. Or how easily a person can be exploited due to accrual of debt gambling which happens to people all the time because gambling is addictive. Well people exist that will help them with those dumb debts all they have to do is say throw one specific game.
@@synchronium24 how are you going to prove it if betting is allowed?
I mean I get it you said hey don't abuse this thing in the easily predictable way that we know it will be because I said not to. It'd be nearly impossible to determine if players' collusion sank a game for their profit rigging games.
More MR sports segments 😩😩😩
$2.7 billion?
Athletic students have such an advantage since those are most of all the scholarships. And we are so devoted to making sure all athletes get everything we've convinced them they deserve for an activity whose results mean nothing in two years. Because people gamble on sports.
Janitors are more important than pro athletes. Everyone’s time should have the same value. Equality!!!
This is NOT the point anyone is trying to make, like at all.
"Value" is completely subjective. We aren't post-scarcity, we aren't post currency, so people get paid in accordance with what society deems valuable. Entertainers are valuable in any and every society, and they deserve not to be exploited, like any other worker.
Can most janitors 10-ft dunk?
That's not even an argument
I'm clearly autistic. I didn't realize this is a bit.
Chuckling at how this guy got out of going to jail bc he was telling the attorneys everyone is doing it and then just has a wire and everyone just falls for the money... so easy xD
This story is so interesting to me, I need to check out his book.
Yes, the subject of NIL (name image likeness) is discussed in this clip. However, using Caitlin Clark as the thumbnail image while her name is not mentioned even once is very clickbaity and wrong. Shame, shame, MR.
Using clickbait is the only way for MR to get views 😉
I guess I should say VERGOGNA, MR! V-E-R-G-O-G-N-A!
They should just end college sports and start a bunch of amateur leagues. The whole point of college athletics was to pay for college. It has gotten ridiculous.
This guy is a terrible interview. Just rambles on and doesn’t complete thoughts, way too self-referential, and only seems to only know about half of what he thinks he does
While I'm 100% on board with paying college athletes, I do not agree with the sentiment that they were completely taken advantage of financially to play college sports. Most D1 athletes were given full rides (in my opinion, every collegiate athlete should get full ride scholarships). I also thought it was ridiculous that the popular athletes (football and basketball players) couldn't financially benefit from signing autographs or other things they did on their own time. The rules against athletes selling gifts they got from the NCAA from bowl games and such were also ridiculous. BUT, you can't ignore that these athletes were given scholarships worth hundreds of thousands of $
So, while I agree with pretty much all of this, the argument that they're basically "slaves" is extremely disingenuous. Getting free tuition from a university that most students walk away from with $100k+ of debt is not "slave labor."
Please don't argue like I'm against NILs. I'm 100% for all college athletes getting paid
P.S. I do not know the percentage of D1 athletes that are given full rides, so don't attack me on that either. Especially since I already stated that all collegiate athletes should be given full rides
Just because an analogy is not 100%, it doesn't mean it is not true. Non documented mirgrants picking lettuce for less than minimum wage, or working at McDonalds for $10/hr, or peeing in a bottle at Amazon, or waitresses making $2/hr because they get "tips" is slavery. Something can't be morally wrong at $0/hour and be ok (legal, morally, ethically) at $2/hr. There is a gray scale. Mostly black is still black, mostly white is still white (puns intended). Please expand your thinking process.
It's going to be a P2 super league. SEC and the Big Ten. Football is running it and everyone else outside of the two will be left out.
You know you can bet on an ncaa game, they charge big prices to watch ncaa games and even attend ncaa games. How are the kids still considered amateurs? Because they can’t have a contract of their own. Why do pro players with kids who end up in college sports go for this bs or they just getting paid a lot more to keep quiet. They should definitely be in the know.
Because they are amateurs compared to the pros and that bears out consistently every year. The best of these amateurs are often just ok the first couple years in the majors. You don't hear pros complaining about it because they were good enough to make it in the pros while most the people complaining never made it past amateurs.
@@TheEvolver311 "I had an accident as an athlete in college, which fucked my body up forever, but I got 0 compensation and 0 help, despite it being a multimillion dollar industry. And now THEEVOLVER tells me I'm just whiny and not good enough".
Do you even listen to yourself?
@sebastianlavallee706 you should have had your scholarship honored.
People get hurt all the time and don't get anything for it. You get hurt playing a game and getting a free ride at university doesn't really sound that special. My brother went to college, accumulated tons of debt(like anyone else who went with no scholarship), was on a job site and a guy knocked over the scissor lift he was in and he plummeted 30+ feet to the concrete, broke ever bone on the right side of his body, rupture numerous organs, and will suffer from chronic pain for the remainder of his life, he also still had all that debt, is unemployable in the field he went got the debt getting the education, and barely qualifies for any assistance. Couldn't sue any company and the guy who did it was broke so you could sue for nothing.
Also why did you feel the need to lie and say I said you were whiney? You are a liar since you lied about that.
@@TheEvolver311 Ah, you don't have any reading comprehension. That explains a lot.^
Edit: I feel bad for your brother having to deal with you implying anyone in those circumstances deserve it and nothing should be done.
if the film he was talking about was Mafia! (1998) that was actually a pretty funny spoof film.
the real good ones the ones who are literally nfl level totally getting paid Big dollars in college trust me. its the average guys not making money but they just need good guys to fill the roster
Anyone misgendering or saying anything transphobic towards Caitlin will be reported (:
Like I understand trolls and bigots exist, but why are you frontloading bigotry before it's even here? It feels like your leaning into it, while also ostensibly being against it. Like a video that includes a black person, and you immediately comment "any racism about black people eating watermelon and being lazy will be reported", like you're kinda advancing the stereotype. I haven't even heard much bigotry about Caitlin not fitting feminine gendered stereotypes.
You must be trolling. She isn't trans and the only person I've seen associate that with her is you.
@@idakev I want to give the benefit of doubt, but you might be right, that or an incredibly misguided person. Even their name seems like a strawmaning trolls version of what a leftist thinks, as if any rational person think ALL women are deserving of respect by men, simply by virtue of them being women and men respectively. It's like one step away from "allwhitepeopleshouldrespectallblackpeople", someone being a woman, or black, or gay does not demand immediate respect, although obviously we all have a base level of humanity we should acknowledge, even if some of us use our humanity and marginalized status to attack other people for simply existing.
@@ComradeCatpurrnicus reported about your comment on the black community. What you said was completely vile. Something well intended for Kaitlin yet you are stirring up negative nonsense.
All of those likes on your comment technically belong to me
Easy fix. Stop playing college sports for teams that will use you to make them richer. You are there for an education not play paddy cake in manufactured sports rivalries.
Maybe not so easy, when you think about how many student athletes are there on an athletic scholarship, since they couldn't afford college any other way.
@@warriorwaitress7690so they are getting something out of the deal?
I think you don’t understand capitalism.
@warriorwaitress7690 also many athletes wouldn't get into college based on grades
@@TheEvolver311but, then they shouldn’t be in college. If they don’t have the grades to be in college.
How does Majority Report survive with such meagre views and no ads- Sam must have remortgaged everything 15 times- just saying
He actually clips his show to put it on TH-cam. He has a pretty good subscription base and paid advertisers on his podcast that he hosts on his own site
The channel survives because his haters drive up engagement with comments like this.
Guy's it's a fellow.
Anybody else find it it odd that while the Columbia University protests were going on that the MR crew, based in NYC, never sent anyone down to cover the protests live?
MR doesn't have reporters to send to places to cover things live. But they did actively talk about it daily while it was happening. Nice try, though.
No cares!!!!
As someone who's actually watched the show for years now, I would've been shocked if they did
They don't send people anywhere
@@stvinney They interviewed Sam on the picket line during the SAG-;;AFTRA strike.
@@spamfilter32 The MR crew is a subway ride from the protest. Guess it's easier to sit on your add and critique journalism than it is to produce it.
The NCAA Was founded out of Vanderbilt Univer$ity by some Good Ole Boys and was referred to as "The Plantati🤑n $y$tem."
Thar would make sense if the NCAA wasn't a whites only institution for the first 40 years it existed.