Keep in mind, the Five stars are based on my needs for this item th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUHHotQRjIQnfuxEeVotlkHVYWH0DXZoS When I first bought the bike I was going to return it immediately. After trying it out for several days/weeks I came to realize it is actually perfect for WHY I bought it.This is not a workout, the resistance is, eh, it makes a bit of noise, not loud, and it isn’t very stable even with the mat. The mat certainly keeps the bike from sliding but nothing keeps the mat from sliding (if that makes any sense, lol). Mine is place on my hard wood floor. Maybe it would be better with a rug underneath??I sit for long hours for work and wanted something to keep my legs moving. This bike does exactly that! For the price it is amazing, it is compact, easy to use, light weight, keeps track of time, calories etc (not sure how accurate it is) but good little product. I am happy with it.
I bought a G6 in July for space very specific space reasons and love it. You can do everything and it is a 2:1 pulley. Since the 2:1 halfs the 220 stack I did have to get a stack pin from Bare Steel to add more weight for lats and rows but would still rather have that 2:1 as the range you get on the cable is insane.
The 2024 G20 V2 with the lat extension is absolutely perfect with the 2:1 in front cables and 1:1 in the lat. But it's freaking expensive. If you have the space for it (and can afford it) an ATX or Powertec lat machine 1:1 with weight stacks is the perfect addition for you. I'm seriously considering the G3 V2 plate loaded and the powertec lat machine with the weight stack, as those 2 together are still cheaper than the G6 and can have a lot of cable range with the 2:1, and a lot of weight for row and lat with the powertec lat machine.
I use a Pivot Fitness FSM-200 which is basically the same but completely plate loaded. They also have a FSM-400 that comes with weight stacks. The cost of the FSM-200 is a third of a Force USA G20 and the cost of the FSM-400 is half of the G20.
Man, can't wait for the Ares review. I hope I can place my order before Coop does the review tho, bc I think after his review, wait tines are gonna blow up.
Same, been holding off on purchasing the Ares and waiting for reviews. as soon as Gluck and coop but their reviews out I’m going based that. I do know that Gluck said his Ares first impressions review comes out the 29th. And a full review 6 months later
@@meisdetermined pretty long but makes sense. He’ll need to have used the machine quite a bit for a thorough review. Plus he’s dropping the first impressions already
So glad to see a Force USA all-in-one review. Definitely hear you on the caveats but for my space requirements along with number of workout types I want to do, I'm close to pulling the trigger on a G15. Would love to see a review on that one!
Hey GGR team. A lot of us have bought functional trainers and thanks to you making gear heads out of us are always on the hunt for great attachments. They’re are a million out there and. I would love to see a comprehensive review. Also if you would include MAG grip pull down bars. Small American company with a perfect product. (Not affiliated just a fan) Thanks for doing what you do!
COOP please review the new Force C10 rack when it comes out. That hack squat, leg press, and front pulleys that go super wide on the functional trainer might just out beat the Ares 2.0.
I bought this thing along with the low row lat pull down attachment. I bought it because of space limitations but had I know then about Ares coming out I definitely would have held out and waited for Ares. For starters it doesn't take 35 hours to put together. Sorry Sam. I put it together by myself over the course of a weekend, about 8 maybe 9 hours per day, however having a friend to help would have made it a lot easier. I don't think it would have saved much time but it definitely would have been easier. The rack arrived first then about a month later the attachment arrived. That took about 6 hours or so to put together only because I had to disable parts of the main rack. Overall the rack itself is adequate but I don't think it's worth the price. With the LR/LP attachment I paid 7K. The hardware comes shrink wrapped against a piece of cardboard with a cheap wrench. Reminds me of hardware that comes with some build at home furniture. Maybe I'm biased and spoiled being that I was expecting similar hardware to what came with my Rogue Monster LITE rack 5/8 inch hardware. I can't imagine comparing it to the Monster 1 inch hardware. The directions are ok but the illustrations are awful. You will spend a lot of time trying to figure out what hole to insert the hardware in. It comes with a bunch of accessory handles but they are just cheap quality, lite weight powder coated crap. To help shed some perspective, the 2 globe pull up bar attachments as well as the multi grip attachment that comes with, all 3 together weigh less that my Rogue Globe ML attachment. The jay cups, mono-lifts and spotter arms are beyond disappointing. I think the only place where Force didn't cheap out is with the weight stacks but as Coop said, the cables and pulleys are "aaah". Another thing to be mindful of is the freight company Force used to deliver it to me. I live in Long Island NY. I don't know if it was the same for anyone else but the freight company sent 1 person to make the delivery. I had to help the driver off-load 4 insanely heavy boxes. Again for 7K you'd think Force would make sure the freight company they contract would send enough man-power to handle unloading the boxes from their truck. As I already mentioned overall it's adequate, I give a C+/B- but for 7K my expectation was A++++++. Knowing then what I know now especially that the Rep Ares is available now, I would not have bought this. Actually, I'm trying to sell it so I can get the Ares. In the end, I feel Force cheaped out to increase their profit margins.
@11:05 I have my Ironmaster and the thing I don't like, which is probably the same for the G20, the J hooks are too short so you always scared you will hit the slide rails and then make the pulley system not work as good
Great review, I’d love to see a similar review of the Force USA G12 (as I have one). I’d agree that the quality isn’t amazing, but it’s adequate for home gym use. I don’t think it would last commercial use, but if you’re tight on space it literally does most things you could want in a home gym.
Hey man, I’m planning to get the G12! What do you mean the quality isn’t amazing? So you don’t recommend it? How long have you been using it? Any problems with it? I’d appreciate your feedback as I don’t want to spend $5000 for it to start falling apart soon after.
@@ElbsmyIt's made in China with Chinese steel and held together with Chinese bolts and coated with Chinese powder coating. That's what "not the best quality" means.
I was hoping for this review a year ago but glad to see it finally happened. I bought the G20 about 6 months ago and love it. One thing that I've disliked is the leg press attachment can get dangerous quick since there are no safety mechanisms to keep it from turning completely horizontal and turning into a guillotine if it slips. Also, not sure how you put a full work week into building this. Out of all of my gym equipment, this probably did take the most time to build, but from start to finish only took 6 hours for me alone. The instructions weren't the best and they would definitely benefit from a 3d build on an app or something like furniture, but it was still easy enough to follow along once you get a groove.
I’d love a comparison with Fray’s new rack/functional trainer combo. A lot of the specs look similar (dual weight stacks, 1:1 pulley ratio), but Fray comes in a less than half the price.
I paid a little over $5000 for a PR 5000 six post rack and Ares with 310 lb stacks. I think it is a much better product than the G20. If anyone buys Ares, I highly recommend the additional 100 pound upgrade kit. It will be a pain to add it later as you have to uninstall the weight stack to add it since it sits under the original weight stack in place of spacers.
I'm considering this or the Ares 4000 6 post rack with the upgraded weight stacks...the Smith machine is tipping me towards the G20 because I think it will be better for my wife.
Really appreciate are your reviews. Any chance that you are planning to review the Jacked Up Power Rack PRO? Would love to see a comparison to the G20 Pro as both are on my list for consideration.
about time! I sold my truck before we military PCS to Germany. So I bought this and brought it over. Unfortunately I couldn't put it in the basement of our German home, so our living room is our Gym. That being said. I love it. I do agree the cable pull length sucks, and the price is whatever you consider the value of everything. I think its worth it. I got the free olympic bar and I paid for the lat pull down machine. The spacing for the plates on back were not meant for bumper plates, so I have bumper plates on every other peg, that's kind of annoying. However, love this thing. Took me about 10 hours by myself to build.
As an all in one, I noticed the rack had west-side spacing - don't see that on competitors and often the rack holes are quite spread out on other all in ones.
That’s a big complaint I’d have about most all in ones. Some of them only have holes every 4”, at times even more. That’s not at all conducive to setting it up for barbell work if you don’t happen to fit their mold.
The 1:1 cable ratio would be a dealbreaker for me and should be for most people. Back in my mainstream gym days, I had no idea about cable ratios but I knew the lat pulldown machines were extremely irritating to use for cable work when the dual cable cross machine was in use. Even when I halved the weight, the movement just wasn’t smooth, usually at the beginning of the lift. It wasn’t that the cables were bad or anything, it was just the feel of the machine was off, it wasn’t a constant tension. I realize now it’s the ratio that was the problem. I can’t imagine doing lateral shoulder raises or other light work with the ratio.
@@toddgilligan do you know when its coming out as I cant find anything when I search online and does this mean the pullout on the cable is much longer?
Zero desire for 2:1 pulley ratio on my G20 weight stacks. Love the 1:1 ratio and not having to add weight to the stack just to use 180lbs. And it’s easy enough to add chain after the handle if more length is needed.
2:1 is better if your not particularly strong as you might not be able to do certain exercises even on the lowest weight with 1:1 and also 2:1 is defo smoother to use and yes you get a longer length 😅. Errm cable 😁.
Great review Coop. I think you’re being very generous in your opinion. For the price there are much better options. The Rep fitness Ares I think will be a much better option for all of the reasons you like this rack.
Nice video as always ( I think the best Channel for Home training I'm watching ) . Not sure between the X20 pro or the actual G20 ( not sure when the potential pro version will come out ). I'm about to buy one of this for my home gym in the coming few weeks. We don't have much option in France, but ForceUSA is available with (almost) all options here
It would be great to have a review video with the Force USA folding rack, MyRack. This one seems more interesting than the ROGUE or PRX because it's faster to unfold/fold than Rogue and more versatile than PRX.
Most people who hate Smith machines only hate them because they've been told to hate them. Of course there are some movements that don't work terribly well on a Smith machine, but they are excellent tools for many things
Another “filler” video as we await the Ares review. Okay I’ll give it a watch. And a comment. And a like. For Coop. :-) but come on with the Ares review man!!
@@carlstair4863 Really?! OK now I have questions lol. Have you used the banana clip for lat pull downs? How smooth is it? If you are at extremely light weight does the selector rod hit the top of the weight stack? I ask because SO MANY PEOPLE have complained about the Rogue selector rod tilting a little and making an annoying sound as it dings the top outer circle of the top plate.
I don't know, man. I've been looking forward to this review. This one ends up being on par with a very full home gym for a price that actually works out cheaper than buying the components separately.
@@deadapostle people could definitely do a lot worse. Stevie Richards compares a lot of the different models of Force USA and has a 5% off code. Someone should probably watch a lot of his reviews because he feels some of them are too narrow(?) or something like that. Seems like a good/honest dude.
Glad you guys came out with this video! I have the G20 with Lat Row station. Yes I love it. Yes it is not perfect. Safeties should have UHMW not rubber. Actually ordered a second set of safeties to do band work from above (as well as second set of Reps band pegs) during pressing and still have safety below. Don't use the weight stack metal housings. Looks cooler IMHO and I can see where the pin is from about any angle. Can also add "stuff" to the stack easier. Works great with my Henny too. Smith machine works Absolutely fabulously as a belt squat standing on my 12 or 24 inch plyo stands using Spuds adjustable belt squat belt. th-cam.com/video/cmMjq9nnkEY/w-d-xo.html This video is before I removed all stack housings.
LOL, seen one of your videos. All of that equipment and still you look like you don't work out. Amazing, I look better at 63 and I have a cheapy squat rack ,bench and one inch plates. All of the fancy gym equipment doesn't build muscle. And clipping a belt to a bar while standing on 2 platforms to do a squat is the the stu.... pidest thing that lve seen.
Any chance of reviewing Amstaff fitness all in one SD 5000. My assumption is they are cheaply made but I can’t find any reviews on it and you guys do great reviews.
It is called a mechanical advantage, with a 2 to 1 ratio the cables are routed through a series of pulleys that allow the cable to move 2 feet for every 1 foot the load moves up the stack. it allows you to have a fast moving cable for explosive movements compared to a 1 to 1 cable like a lat pull-down that only uses two pulleys and no slack in the line. Hope that makes sense...
Um....35 hours build time???? Sam, I did it BY MYSELF in about 15 hours. Later on I got the lat pull-down attachment and that took about 4 hours. Hey Coop, let me know if you need another assemblyman.....
Coop could we get a comparison of other all in trainers? Like this vs the Jacked Up all in one vs Temple of gains’ all in one trainer with the 3x3 posts and 5/8” holes?
Coop, great review! So, at the end of the day: Force USA G20 (or Pro) vs. Jacked Up Power Rack Pro? I tried to find a comparison from you but may not be looking in the right place. Thanks!
Why do we love reviews so much??? I'm not gonna buy any of this stuff, I don't even have a place to put it even if I had the money....still watch 100+ GGR videos though
Moving to a 1 to 1 functional trainer makes sense, especially since the weight stacks are 300. But I got to wonder, why don't companies try to do both? I.e. 1:1 and 2:1 - cause I have seen 2:1 convertible to 4:1 (however I think to most people 4:1 is not nearly as useful as 1:1).
Hi Coop and others... I got the G12 for about 2 years and one thing I noticed over time is that if you use just the starting weight on the cables for lets say lateral raises or reverse flies or something then it really sucks... It's stopping continuously and almost jumping around while pulling the cable. Has anyone an advice how to fix this? I even started to use bands recently for the mentioned movements just to avoid that annoying thing and I never experienced something similar when I used other functional trainers. Otherwise... Nice to see the improvement on the J-cups. Mine (no rollers) have big ugly bolt at the front where i always crash my bars against and damage them... But overall a great machine and surprisingly much cheaper if you buy it in europe for some reason...
Great again Coop--would like you to get and review the Lat Low Row attachment--also could you use a pin to add small adjustments of weights to the cable stack or does that molding around the stack interfere? Thanks!
Hi! How does this (G20 Pro v.2) compare to the Tytax T1-X? They seem to be very similar all in one racks. Cost is basically the same. Before I spend €9k I'd like to be 100% sure on how how I'm spending my money. Tytax T1-X or Force USA G20 Pro v.2 Cheers 🍻
I’ve seen something similar on Amazon, from a company called MIM USA (Hercules) any thoughts on that? Live in Mexico and getting any rogue or REP equipment is either a pain, impossible or outrageously expensive. Thanks!
Looking for some help. I am planning to buy a smith plus pulley for my home gym. How ForceUSA compares to JackedUp. If anyone knows of any other strong brands, I am open to opinions. Thank you.
Keep in mind, the Five stars are based on my needs for this item th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUHHotQRjIQnfuxEeVotlkHVYWH0DXZoS When I first bought the bike I was going to return it immediately. After trying it out for several days/weeks I came to realize it is actually perfect for WHY I bought it.This is not a workout, the resistance is, eh, it makes a bit of noise, not loud, and it isn’t very stable even with the mat. The mat certainly keeps the bike from sliding but nothing keeps the mat from sliding (if that makes any sense, lol). Mine is place on my hard wood floor. Maybe it would be better with a rug underneath??I sit for long hours for work and wanted something to keep my legs moving. This bike does exactly that! For the price it is amazing, it is compact, easy to use, light weight, keeps track of time, calories etc (not sure how accurate it is) but good little product. I am happy with it.
Coop at his best in a review like this one...nice job GGR Crew!
Coop, Fantastic job
This video proves U are the Alpha and the Omega of Home Gym Reviews.
I bought a G6 in July for space very specific space reasons and love it. You can do everything and it is a 2:1 pulley. Since the 2:1 halfs the 220 stack I did have to get a stack pin from Bare Steel to add more weight for lats and rows but would still rather have that 2:1 as the range you get on the cable is insane.
The 2024 G20 V2 with the lat extension is absolutely perfect with the 2:1 in front cables and 1:1 in the lat.
But it's freaking expensive.
If you have the space for it (and can afford it) an ATX or Powertec lat machine 1:1 with weight stacks is the perfect addition for you.
I'm seriously considering the G3 V2 plate loaded and the powertec lat machine with the weight stack, as those 2 together are still cheaper than the G6 and can have a lot of cable range with the 2:1, and a lot of weight for row and lat with the powertec lat machine.
Great reviews, Nathan your editing power is above and beyond.
I use a Pivot Fitness FSM-200 which is basically the same but completely plate loaded. They also have a FSM-400 that comes with weight stacks. The cost of the FSM-200 is a third of a Force USA G20 and the cost of the FSM-400 is half of the G20.
Man, can't wait for the Ares review. I hope I can place my order before Coop does the review tho, bc I think after his review, wait tines are gonna blow up.
Same, been holding off on purchasing the Ares and waiting for reviews. as soon as Gluck and coop but their reviews out I’m going based that.
I do know that Gluck said his Ares first impressions review comes out the 29th. And a full review 6 months later
@@sonofashepherd6668 6 months for a full review? Geeez.
@@meisdetermined pretty long but makes sense. He’ll need to have used the machine quite a bit for a thorough review. Plus he’s dropping the first impressions already
How about a review on the Force USA G-12 all in one machine!!!!! That would be dope for a comparison between the two!
Love to see a review on the F20 trainer from Force USA. Looks like a beast if a machine that does it all!
So glad to see a Force USA all-in-one review. Definitely hear you on the caveats but for my space requirements along with number of workout types I want to do, I'm close to pulling the trigger on a G15. Would love to see a review on that one!
Hey GGR team. A lot of us have bought functional trainers and thanks to you making gear heads out of us are always on the hunt for great attachments. They’re are a million out there and. I would love to see a comprehensive review.
Also if you would include MAG grip pull down bars. Small American company with a perfect product. (Not affiliated just a fan)
Thanks for doing what you do!
Been waiting for thus, thank you.
Yes more like this reviewing multifunction trainer racks and more force usa please
COOP please review the new Force C10 rack when it comes out. That hack squat, leg press, and front pulleys that go super wide on the functional trainer might just out beat the Ares 2.0.
The smith is a great addition. ALL the top bodybuilders use it. Myself included 😌
I bought this thing along with the low row lat pull down attachment. I bought it because of space limitations but had I know then about Ares coming out I definitely would have held out and waited for Ares. For starters it doesn't take 35 hours to put together. Sorry Sam. I put it together by myself over the course of a weekend, about 8 maybe 9 hours per day, however having a friend to help would have made it a lot easier. I don't think it would have saved much time but it definitely would have been easier. The rack arrived first then about a month later the attachment arrived. That took about 6 hours or so to put together only because I had to disable parts of the main rack.
Overall the rack itself is adequate but I don't think it's worth the price. With the LR/LP attachment I paid 7K. The hardware comes shrink wrapped against a piece of cardboard with a cheap wrench. Reminds me of hardware that comes with some build at home furniture. Maybe I'm biased and spoiled being that I was expecting similar hardware to what came with my Rogue Monster LITE rack 5/8 inch hardware. I can't imagine comparing it to the Monster 1 inch hardware.
The directions are ok but the illustrations are awful. You will spend a lot of time trying to figure out what hole to insert the hardware in. It comes with a bunch of accessory handles but they are just cheap quality, lite weight powder coated crap. To help shed some perspective, the 2 globe pull up bar attachments as well as the multi grip attachment that comes with, all 3 together weigh less that my Rogue Globe ML attachment. The jay cups, mono-lifts and spotter arms are beyond disappointing.
I think the only place where Force didn't cheap out is with the weight stacks but as Coop said, the cables and pulleys are "aaah".
Another thing to be mindful of is the freight company Force used to deliver it to me. I live in Long Island NY. I don't know if it was the same for anyone else but the freight company sent 1 person to make the delivery. I had to help the driver off-load 4 insanely heavy boxes. Again for 7K you'd think Force would make sure the freight company they contract would send enough man-power to handle unloading the boxes from their truck.
As I already mentioned overall it's adequate, I give a C+/B- but for 7K my expectation was A++++++. Knowing then what I know now especially that the Rep Ares is available now, I would not have bought this. Actually, I'm trying to sell it so I can get the Ares.
In the end, I feel Force cheaped out to increase their profit margins.
exactly what Ares Machine were you thinking of?
Sam's charging extra hours!
I have had their foldable rack almost 2 years now for my garage gym. It folds up quickly. The company knows how to keep things compact.
@11:05 I have my Ironmaster and the thing I don't like, which is probably the same for the G20, the J hooks are too short so you always scared you will hit the slide rails and then make the pulley system not work as good
More Force USA reviews!
Great review, I’d love to see a similar review of the Force USA G12 (as I have one). I’d agree that the quality isn’t amazing, but it’s adequate for home gym use. I don’t think it would last commercial use, but if you’re tight on space it literally does most things you could want in a home gym.
Hey man, I’m planning to get the G12! What do you mean the quality isn’t amazing? So you don’t recommend it? How long have you been using it? Any problems with it? I’d appreciate your feedback as I don’t want to spend $5000 for it to start falling apart soon after.
Hello... and how about in a personal training studio or small gym?... can it excell in that scenario?
@@ElbsmyIt's made in China with Chinese steel and held together with Chinese bolts and coated with Chinese powder coating. That's what "not the best quality" means.
They're coming out with a ForceUSA 20 Pro, so Coop will get it next week and review it in 2035.
I was hoping for this review a year ago but glad to see it finally happened. I bought the G20 about 6 months ago and love it. One thing that I've disliked is the leg press attachment can get dangerous quick since there are no safety mechanisms to keep it from turning completely horizontal and turning into a guillotine if it slips.
Also, not sure how you put a full work week into building this. Out of all of my gym equipment, this probably did take the most time to build, but from start to finish only took 6 hours for me alone. The instructions weren't the best and they would definitely benefit from a 3d build on an app or something like furniture, but it was still easy enough to follow along once you get a groove.
Sounds sketchy
I have a G20 and find it works great for my needs. For the leg press, I use the smith machine safety hooks, which mitigates any potential risk.
I have a G20 and find it works great for my needs. For the leg press, I use the smith machine safety hooks, which mitigates any potential risk.
I’d love a comparison with Fray’s new rack/functional trainer combo. A lot of the specs look similar (dual weight stacks, 1:1 pulley ratio), but Fray comes in a less than half the price.
I paid a little over $5000 for a PR 5000 six post rack and Ares with 310 lb stacks. I think it is a much better product than the G20. If anyone buys Ares, I highly recommend the additional 100 pound upgrade kit. It will be a pain to add it later as you have to uninstall the weight stack to add it since it sits under the original weight stack in place of spacers.
Wait. Rep actually had all the parts in stock? I guess miracles happen.
How are you liking the Ares? Mind giving your impressions?
@@sonofashepherd6668 Don’t have it yet. Just ordered last week.
@@markhalstead2386 gotcha, thanks for the reply 👌🏼
I'm considering this or the Ares 4000 6 post rack with the upgraded weight stacks...the Smith machine is tipping me towards the G20 because I think it will be better for my wife.
Coop! Would love to see you review the new Fray Fitness savage series rack/functional trainer combo!
Me too!
Really appreciate are your reviews. Any chance that you are planning to review the Jacked Up Power Rack PRO? Would love to see a comparison to the G20 Pro as both are on my list for consideration.
The jacked up pro is on my list as well. Would love to see a review on it.
I have a G12 and its great overall.
about time! I sold my truck before we military PCS to Germany. So I bought this and brought it over. Unfortunately I couldn't put it in the basement of our German home, so our living room is our Gym. That being said. I love it. I do agree the cable pull length sucks, and the price is whatever you consider the value of everything. I think its worth it. I got the free olympic bar and I paid for the lat pull down machine. The spacing for the plates on back were not meant for bumper plates, so I have bumper plates on every other peg, that's kind of annoying. However, love this thing. Took me about 10 hours by myself to build.
Wow -- built it urself!! and 10 hours no less--what do u think made the difference between Sam's 35 hours and your 10 hour--thanks
@@StrongMindandBody I wonder if force went and prebuilt some things since than. Ie all the pegs for the smith machine
Looking big coop !
would love to see a comparison to the Jackedup fitness extreme
When will we get a FT2 review? Better selling and better quality than anything ForceUSA has put out.
I would love to see you review the Inspire FT2 Functional Trainer. Coops you do a fantastic job reviewing Gym gear
Agreed
As an all in one, I noticed the rack had west-side spacing - don't see that on competitors and often the rack holes are quite spread out on other all in ones.
That’s a big complaint I’d have about most all in ones. Some of them only have holes every 4”, at times even more. That’s not at all conducive to setting it up for barbell work if you don’t happen to fit their mold.
The 1:1 cable ratio would be a dealbreaker for me and should be for most people. Back in my mainstream gym days, I had no idea about cable ratios but I knew the lat pulldown machines were extremely irritating to use for cable work when the dual cable cross machine was in use. Even when I halved the weight, the movement just wasn’t smooth, usually at the beginning of the lift. It wasn’t that the cables were bad or anything, it was just the feel of the machine was off, it wasn’t a constant tension. I realize now it’s the ratio that was the problem. I can’t imagine doing lateral shoulder raises or other light work with the ratio.
That’s why I want to see the Ares review so bad. It’s 1:2 (roughly) and the REP team seems to have perfected it.
Force USA is coming out with 2:1 ratio very soon
@@toddgilligan do you know when its coming out as I cant find anything when I search online and does this mean the pullout on the cable is much longer?
Zero desire for 2:1 pulley ratio on my G20 weight stacks. Love the 1:1 ratio and not having to add weight to the stack just to use 180lbs. And it’s easy enough to add chain after the handle if more length is needed.
2:1 is better if your not particularly strong as you might not be able to do certain exercises even on the lowest weight with 1:1 and also 2:1 is defo smoother to use and yes you get a longer length 😅. Errm cable 😁.
Was waiting on this review for so long, and now it’s finally out, but I already ordered an ares rack 😂
It would be awesome to see some more stuff from elitefts. Thanks coop
Great review Coop. I think you’re being very generous in your opinion. For the price there are much better options. The Rep fitness Ares I think will be a much better option for all of the reasons you like this rack.
Hoping you'll review the Jacked Up fitness plate loaded one similar to this!
I’d love to see the leg press hack squat from force USA reviewed
Your the Goat of exercise Equipment , Great video Buddy!
I’d love to see an updated review of their MyRack
Cheers coop. Been waiting on this review for a LONG time... think I'll go prime. I need that 2/4:1 ratio. I'm a weakling.
I’d like to see a review of the inspire ft2. I feel like that has just as much functionality if not more than this. At about the same price.
Agreed
Coop getting leaner and bigger 👍.
Right!!!
Please review jacked up fitness all in one power rack! Preferably the extreme 1:1 pulley model
Nice video as always ( I think the best Channel for Home training I'm watching ) . Not sure between the X20 pro or the actual G20 ( not sure when the potential pro version will come out ). I'm about to buy one of this for my home gym in the coming few weeks. We don't have much option in France, but ForceUSA is available with (almost) all options here
Safety bars about 4" longer and the whole rack about 4" wider and it would be gold!
Yes, I like to see their other racks
It would be great to have a review video with the Force USA folding rack, MyRack. This one seems more interesting than the ROGUE or PRX because it's faster to unfold/fold than Rogue and more versatile than PRX.
Most people who hate Smith machines only hate them because they've been told to hate them. Of course there are some movements that don't work terribly well on a Smith machine, but they are excellent tools for many things
Finally. Been debating a G10 or G15 and unsure of how good it is.
Another “filler” video as we await the Ares review. Okay I’ll give it a watch. And a comment. And a like. For Coop. :-) but come on with the Ares review man!!
Got my ares yesterday its f awesome
@@carlstair4863 Really?! OK now I have questions lol. Have you used the banana clip for lat pull downs? How smooth is it? If you are at extremely light weight does the selector rod hit the top of the weight stack? I ask because SO MANY PEOPLE have complained about the Rogue selector rod tilting a little and making an annoying sound as it dings the top outer circle of the top plate.
I don't know, man. I've been looking forward to this review. This one ends up being on par with a very full home gym for a price that actually works out cheaper than buying the components separately.
@@deadapostle people could definitely do a lot worse. Stevie Richards compares a lot of the different models of Force USA and has a 5% off code. Someone should probably watch a lot of his reviews because he feels some of them are too narrow(?) or something like that. Seems like a good/honest dude.
The g20 is amazing
The Pro model with the 2:1 will be awesome
Coop. How about reviewing the Jacked Up Pro multi trainer.
Do you know anything about jacked up functional trainer?
I would also like to know about this
Glad you guys came out with this video! I have the G20 with Lat Row station. Yes I love it. Yes it is not perfect. Safeties should have UHMW not rubber. Actually ordered a second set of safeties to do band work from above (as well as second set of Reps band pegs) during pressing and still have safety below. Don't use the weight stack metal housings. Looks cooler IMHO and I can see where the pin is from about any angle. Can also add "stuff" to the stack easier. Works great with my Henny too. Smith machine works Absolutely fabulously as a belt squat standing on my 12 or 24 inch plyo stands using Spuds adjustable belt squat belt. th-cam.com/video/cmMjq9nnkEY/w-d-xo.html This video is before I removed all stack housings.
LOL, seen one of your videos. All of that equipment and still you look like you don't work out. Amazing, I look better at 63 and I have a cheapy squat rack ,bench and one inch plates. All of the fancy gym equipment doesn't build muscle. And clipping a belt to a bar while standing on 2 platforms to do a squat is the the stu.... pidest thing that lve seen.
Nothing but best wishes for you my friend. Take care.
@@davebrown4841 what was the point of posting this comment?
Any chance of reviewing Amstaff fitness all in one SD 5000. My assumption is they are cheaply made but I can’t find any reviews on it and you guys do great reviews.
How does this compare to the ironmaster rack?
Is it possible to review the major Lutie power rack? Thanks and keep up the good work.
Coop can you review some more price=friendly pieces such as the plate-loadable fumctional trainers?
Thank you for this video, I would also like to have information about the forceusa F100 because it is cheaper. Thank you very much.
Dumb question - why does the weight ratio affect how far the cables travel?
It is called a mechanical advantage, with a 2 to 1 ratio the cables are routed through a series of pulleys that allow the cable to move 2 feet for every 1 foot the load moves up the stack. it allows you to have a fast moving cable for explosive movements compared to a 1 to 1 cable like a lat pull-down that only uses two pulleys and no slack in the line. Hope that makes sense...
Are you able to review the Jacked Up Power Rack PRO All-In-One Functional Trainer Cable Crossover Cage Home Gym W/ Smith Machine
Um....35 hours build time???? Sam, I did it BY MYSELF in about 15 hours. Later on I got the lat pull-down attachment and that took about 4 hours. Hey Coop, let me know if you need another assemblyman.....
Do you plan on reviewing the lat pulldown attachment for G20 with the new model?
Coop could we get a comparison of other all in trainers? Like this vs the Jacked Up all in one vs Temple of gains’ all in one trainer with the 3x3 posts and 5/8” holes?
Bolt fitness in Houston has a few All in ones very similar to this, you should do a comparison of them
Coop, great review! So, at the end of the day: Force USA G20 (or Pro) vs. Jacked Up Power Rack Pro? I tried to find a comparison from you but may not be looking in the right place. Thanks!
Coop! What are your thoughts on the BodyKore Universal trainer MX1162?
It would be cool, an attachment to transform any rack in to a smith machine
How about this vs Jacked Up Fitness vs Ares?
I would also like to know about this
Why do we love reviews so much??? I'm not gonna buy any of this stuff, I don't even have a place to put it even if I had the money....still watch 100+ GGR videos though
Can you review the Jackedup Fitness racks? They offer similar rack for less and they look solid! Just bought the Power Rack Plus version yesterday
Moving to a 1 to 1 functional trainer makes sense, especially since the weight stacks are 300. But I got to wonder, why don't companies try to do both? I.e. 1:1 and 2:1 - cause I have seen 2:1 convertible to 4:1 (however I think to most people 4:1 is not nearly as useful as 1:1).
Prime offers a 1:1 top pulley with a 2:1 ratio on the moving pulleys. The only thing I wish prime included was a 1:1 bottom pulley for low rows.
Can you review the jacked up brands power racks?
Please review the Vesta Fitness Pro 3 in 1 Ultimate Rack With Smith Machine. It looks very competitive.
Can you review the G20 Pro with Lat pull down attachment?
Can you do a review of the Sorinex Monolift Attachment? I have found zero reviews on Google.
I want to get the G15. Can you do a review on that?
Review the force usa newest hack squat leg press combo please
Might be the first person to ask but...can you review the G15pro?? 🤞🏽
THANK YOU FINALLY THANNNNK YOOUUUUUU
Do you have a review for the Force USA G6? Thanks!
Hi Coop and others... I got the G12 for about 2 years and one thing I noticed over time is that if you use just the starting weight on the cables for lets say lateral raises or reverse flies or something then it really sucks... It's stopping continuously and almost jumping around while pulling the cable.
Has anyone an advice how to fix this? I even started to use bands recently for the mentioned movements just to avoid that annoying thing and I never experienced something similar when I used other functional trainers. Otherwise... Nice to see the improvement on the J-cups. Mine (no rollers) have big ugly bolt at the front where i always crash my bars against and damage them... But overall a great machine and surprisingly much cheaper if you buy it in europe for some reason...
You’ve probably tried this, but have you lubricated the guide rods with a silicone based lubricant recently?
Hey man, do you recommend the g12? I’m planning to get one, I just don’t want to spend $5000 and then regret it. I’d appreciate your opinion.
Great again Coop--would like you to get and review the Lat Low Row attachment--also could you use a pin to add small adjustments of weights to the cable stack or does that molding around the stack interfere? Thanks!
More force USA functional trainers please, especially the g9
A great option would be to see if they could make somethig to swtich between a 1:1 and a 2:1 pulley ratio.
Another great video Coop 💪 I know you said you were reviewing the other racks that Force USA is putting out, is there a plan to do the G10?
Like to see a review of the Jacked Up Rack
Please review the jacked up trainer
Would still like to see a review of Jacked Up Fitness Pro rack
Would love to see a 2:1 update kit for this as I don’t like the 1:1
Wow I want one! 🤩
Milf, I’ll subscribe.
lol for black friday they raised the price to $6999 so they can sell it at a discount for $5499 (500 less than what you had it listed here for lol)
Hi!
How does this (G20 Pro v.2) compare to the Tytax T1-X? They seem to be very similar all in one racks. Cost is basically the same.
Before I spend €9k I'd like to be 100% sure on how how I'm spending my money.
Tytax T1-X
or
Force USA G20 Pro v.2
Cheers 🍻
About FN time!
I’ve seen something similar on Amazon, from a company called MIM USA (Hercules) any thoughts on that? Live in Mexico and getting any rogue or REP equipment is either a pain, impossible or outrageously expensive. Thanks!
Hey can you review the exergenie?
That's a great idea. In fact, I'd love to see an entire series of reviews of vintage exercise equipment.
Hello , Quelqu’un aurait il une solution pour passer le ratio des poulies en 2:1 ? Thanks
Can you pls give an idea about the competitor products of same price range?
Looking for some help. I am planning to buy a smith plus pulley for my home gym. How ForceUSA compares to JackedUp. If anyone knows of any other strong brands, I am open to opinions. Thank you.