REAL Tiger Crane Kung Fu - Traditional
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- REAL Tiger Crane Kung Fu - Traditional. I've been practicing the Tiger/Crane style of Chinese Kung Fu since I was 18 years old! In that time I learned and now teach 2 different ways to perform and execute the traditional Tiger Crane Unity Form! Tiger is 虎 Hǔ. Crane is 鶴 Hè. Learn BOTH these methods of Tiger Crane Kung Fu they will come in handy later!!! Hung Gar Chuan loves this style!
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Huge problem's here... an analogy: Wong Fei Hong's fu hok seung ying kuen, tiger crane; imagine it as an intricately composed symphony at best performed by full orchestra in concert; an advanced practitioner displays as taught such metaphorical tenets, a full display & understanding of any advanced harmony & dynamics... This video is the performance equivalent of one man knocking out the same melody by ear at home one fingered on a Bontempi Organ... sure some folks may say it's the same tune, but it's simply mere impersonation of the actual orchestration; doesn't matter how many times they knock the tune out, from one finger to two on that organ, or how many that teach that to. Much power to anyone out there promoting kung fu, but much more in depth study is needed to get to the actual art form. This is not remotely the REAL tiger crane, nor close. Take that as you will; I don't claim to be a great practitioner, but I have been privileged enough to spend a good number of years studying the fu hok tiger crane specifically in depth under the lineage of Lau Kar Leung & have some eye to see this is way off base... would suggest anyone starting here endeavour to dig much further lest the artform gets bastardised into any ridiculous clowning. It's nice that the guy here is physically fit & all, but he needs to question his teachings way further before he tries to pass them on half baked.
REAL Tiger Crane Kung Fu - Traditional. I've been practicing the Tiger/Crane style of Chinese Kung Fu since I was 18 years old! In that time I learned and now teach 2 different ways to perform and execute the traditional Tiger Crane Unity Form! Tiger is 虎 Hǔ. Crane is 鶴 Hè. Learn BOTH these methods of Tiger Crane Kung Fu they will come in handy later!!! Hung Gar Chuan loves this style!
I love Tiger & Crane form. I wish to see more
I don't know whether to laugh at this, or cry because of this. He's got no clue as to what real Hung Gar (Tiger/Crane) is.
I would love to see him or his students enter any leitai competition. It would make me so happy to watch them get beaten by actual Hung Gar stylists.
To be fair, most hung gar people (most kung fu people) wouldn't fair much better. This dude is a fraud, but at least he's in shape. 90% of kung fu'ers are either 1) Scrawny little guys with emo problems 2) Overweight, balding and spends too much time in front of the computer.
You've described most of the internet, and most people training in any art, as the majority of those "training" never get in the ring, EVER.
But, then there are the old war horses who know their shit, and don't have to prove anything.
Regardless, to think this guy or his students would fare well in a leitai competition is ridiculous. Sanshou? LOL.
It's pretty apparent this guy is full of shit.
Look here's the deal, I'll say the same thing on his Tiger/Crane as I did his Mantis. I don't care what it "looks" like. You can be freggin spot on with your Fu Hok Seung and still not know a lick of Hung Gar. Hung Gar isn't a condensation of a few forms. Its a strategy (and a history, but right now we're just talking about the fighting). A boxer, that has never been exposed to a single kung fu class, can "know" Hung Gar. Do you know the 12 bridges? Can you apply that into a fighting strategy? That is Hung Gar. Now, I have absolutely no belief that this guy here can do these things, or knows these things. Much like I have no belief he understands the 12 mantis keys, the 8 hard and 12 soft methods, etc. But my statement is ultimately tangential to everything going on in this comment section. I'm simply stating a point on what is or isn't, in my opinion, indicative of a "style." These strategies are the essence of the fighting system, the shape of the form is simply a characteristic of the medium. And with this, I suspect, a large proportion of those here criticizing this dude's Shaolin-Do (and it is Shaolin-Do), probably also don't know their own art like they think they do. If you can't rattle off the 12 bridges and demonstrate how they apply to fighting with an application, you don't know Hung Gar.
Have to know the whole system, in order to generate the ging.. this guy can’t even do a proper horse stance.. flowery hands..
@@johningersoll6647 Stance training is irrelevant and I don't care about western bastardization of Chinese terms. Stances are irrelevant to fighting. They don't train strength and stances aren't equal to footwork. Stances are what people that can't fight talk about.
Hey, um....I think you forgot something, like - the rest of the form, maybe?
🤣🤣🤣 good laugh thanks
Wrong hand for tiger claws
Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee! Who is your favorite and WHY??? :)
Bruce Lee is very badass,but Jackie is very funny and have some cool epic fights,i like them two
+Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Me personally growing up loved Bruce Lee, he was a huge inspiration to me and my growing love for Martial Arts as well as Jackie Chan, Meng Lo, Chia-Hui Liu, Jet Li, Etc.) but if I had to pick one, I'd go with Jackie Chan for many reasons, I will always respect what Bruce Lee had done for the Martial Arts world as well as the film industry forever, all the wisdom that he left us with, as well as his legacy that still to this day, is very much alive, the man is an Icon, kids imitate him and don't even know who Bruce Lee is yet, I choose Jackie Chan because unlike Bruce Lee, Jackie was not like Bruce lee at all, although they both did Martial Arts, Bruce Lee's approach to Martial Arts and film is far different to Jackie Chan's in my opinion, Jackie is seen more as the very kind, generous, comical, Stunt Master, as opposed to Bruce, who shares many of the traits of Jackie Chan, but in my eyes was a very serious man, who continuously strive to be the best, Jackie's approach to Martial Arts however is very different than Bruce Lee's Art of Jeet Kune Do (JKD) Jackie's Martial Arts when seen in his older films seemed very Shaolin oriented, very much like traditional Gung Fu, when he did Drunken Fist in the film Drunken Master, you see that segment when he is training, he is imitating the 8 Drunken Gods, then in Fearless Hyena, his Martial Arts is quite different than in Drunken Master, Then when he started making American films it was way different than his old school Martial Arts films.
These are films yes, but much can be learned just from observing these films, today there are people who study Drunken Fist as a Chinese Martial Art, people study Jeet Kune Do as a Chinese Martial Art as well.
Both are great in there own ways, had gave a lot to the world, but Bruce's Jeet Kune Do Art form to me, is somewhat predictable, compared to some Chinese Martial Arts I've seen, like Monkey Style, etc.) because it's a mixture of several Arts, including Western Boxing, I am refering to Jeet Kune Do, It really depends on who is using the art in the end, how they apply it to real life situations, and about how they apply it to their training, but Jackie Chan to me is my favorite.
Again Bruce has been a huge inspiration to my growing love for Martial Arts as well as many others including my very own Father, who has been doing Martial Arts since he was a child, but Jackie Chan's approach to Martial Arts is more appealing to me than Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do Martial Arts style.
(R.I.P. Bruce Lee.)
I prefer Bruce Lee's aggression over Jackie Chans goofy style of fighting but Jackie Chan is an environmental martial artist it makes for a great look in movies and it makes Jackie that much dangerous cuz he has a great set of moves to hurt u with along with the environment.. so I'm team Jackie I guess.. much respect to both of those legends by the way
+Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Bruce Lee Beacuse HE S Very Badass
"powa rainjas"
I started following you a while back your an amazing martial artist! Hats off to you!
I've been training in hung ga since 2003. This is crap!!!!
esshung Hey, I've been training in Tiger style Kung Fu since 2003 as well! And you know what? I completely agree! Jake Mace has always been a joke, most martial artists can tell from any of his videos.
This is Anthony (black guy) from Atlantic City. I came out with my to train with you in 2009 - in Runnemede under Dai Sifu Ramell's tutelage - with my Sifu. I can't that this garbage is passed off as authentic Hung Gar.... I put my life into my training, and to see this frightful display is truly pathetic!
All Hung Ga styles have animal from old village hung ga to Wong Fri Hung, Lam Sai Wing lineage.
All have animal sets.
Gung ji funk fu kuen (Taming the TIGER set) Fu Hok Swung Ying Kuen (TIGERCRANE Double Shape Fist) Tit Sin Kuen (Dragon) and. Five Animal Fist (Ng Ying Kuen)
Name one Hung Ga Kuen style that has NO animal sets.
I'm from the Dang Fong hung Kuen lineage.
Oh before I for get, there is no such thing as the TIGERCRANE hand.
Its called the kiu Sao (Bridge Hand).
This man knows absolutely nothing about TIGER CRANE kungfu.
so do either of you guys have a link to what you consider more legit tiger type stuff
Big Member i don't know anything about kung fu, however i found this
th-cam.com/video/knviCtbakG4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Jake, how often would recommend me to practice this form in a weekly basis
Please don’t ever practice this form
The second set should be called the "Chinese Robot"
hey jake who taught you this tiger crane form? whats his name??
Do you want to hunt them down and kill them?
@@mastershifu7140 For validation - because THIS looks suspect, just as much as his "dummy" work. It's ridiculous.
you could easily see how they probably started off as the same form the second one you did is the one I was taught and I'm trying to review I did some searches and your beginning is the only one I could find that was this close to or pretty much exactly like I was taught except for the way you throw your elbows
i love this guy he is hilarious :D
Finally thank you so much
New location looks dope
Wow you guy amazing! I never tough I'll ever see KF like this in my life.
What your lineage?
Where did you learn Hung Gar?
His teacher is shifu TH-cam^^
Who was your master Jake ?
hes been exposed a loooong time ago. Other than fake kung fu, most of his forms he learned online or from books then he uploads it for views.....Its crazy how so many people follow him when 99% of the stuff hes doing is wrong.
I teach Choy Gar Kune Fa but my sister is a black sash in Hung Gar Kune Fa she looked at this and said this guy is a fake and don't know jack about Hung Gar she said this is BS
Jet li: Horse stance!? Very good, for taking a dump!!
Thank you!
I have been training martial arts 4 years ago
Your instructions are great!!!! thank you for this video. perfect basics :)
Eccentric Contraction not isometric, Isometric contraction is where the muscles generate force with a contraction but do NOT move.
Is this hung gar?
Very nice form, but for the uninitiated, this isn’t what Hung Ga practices, while some movements are similar this wouldn’t be a Shaolin or Hung Ga form. Think of this as more Qigong daily exercise. No ill intentions, this is still a very nice informative video. Keep up the good work!
I think this is a good Idea for Bodybuilders.
Not saying its a perfect idea, but in other countries you have to be certified by a gov't panel that you know what you say you know, in order to teach martial arts. Cuts down on a lot of the crap in those countries. Not perfect, but prevents this mess.
why does this look different than chinese guys doing this style lol
Because it isn't a chinese guy doing it.
Even moves are hilarious
If I would call Mace's stance a Horse Stance, my Teacher woukd kick me in the ass ... LOL
Oh Please: 3:10 is actually iron wire fist.
That's what's up
I don't understand all the hate, I think if you apply the moves into what you already know it is a great practice.
Fun fact: nowadays they teach wushu at shaolin, traditional kung fu is a treasure they gealously keep secret.
Hello Grula, im a 34th generation disciple of Song Shan Shaolin Temple. Both Hesong and Wusong here in Henan practice the styles from tang and sui. only students who are not tudi practice Qing. if you like Gong Fu, and want to know more about it, please let me know. Amituofo
@@benjaminlatroch6121 i practice myself and i'm not here to criticize or denigrate anyone's style, my master was thought from tibetan monk kwong-choy-ley, we practice 9 styles in total and tibetan hop-gar is one of them, it's difficult to find something online about it cause of some very dangerous tecniques especially when we talk about dim mak.
Not real Hung Kuen Jakey Boi! But, he does train all the time and in good shape. Let me know if you'd like to do a Zoom call to go over some stuff
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Gracias Amigo! :)
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace jake the video is duplicated. at least on playlist
soft style crane kung fu the hard and the soft styles blend
Pretty good, and yes, it does look "authentic" (whatever that means).
nice sound effects bruh
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Das sind Bewegungen aus der Fu Hok Seung Ying Kuen - schöne Interpretation.
Wenn Du das gut findest, such dir eine andere Schule und einen anderen Lehrer .....
quit while you can.
where is the opening salute and the last salute. All Chinese kungfu styles, Open and close with a salute. Also the fist should be at your sides. Only Wing Chun his the fist by the chest. The salute is very important. you haven't got a clue on what too do.
Looks good Jake I like it. Not exactly the same as Fu Hok Seung Ying Kuen And it shouldn't be. and before all you kung-fu masters talk shiz about how it is not authentic or real. I can show you videos from several different Hungar schools all doing it just a tad different.
Pull your elbows back further, when your fists are at your side. They should be straight at your side, not listing in front of your chest. Your feet are too wide for your horse stance. The fingers in your tiger palm need to relax just a touch; your palm is doing the striking, your fingers should be prepared to grab or claw, even though they will not, but as training for a subtle bit of versatility. Don't aggressively breath out while you're changing your fingers, that is a bad habit. Your style hand postures should have tension at the wrist, meaning you're pulling your fingers back such that your hand is as close to a 90 degree angle up from your arm - you should feel it. The wrist should not be relaxed, straight, and at your side in the hand posture, because that's not what it exists for. Just hold a fist in the off hand while the moving hand does the posture.
These are all entry level points that would be pointed out to someone on their first day of doing any sort of styles like this. Please find a teacher.
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Hey guys, I just gotta come to Jake's defense on this one. He never said that he was doing Hung Gar style, he used Hung Gar as an example of a style that loves to use tiger/crane. No need to hate folks, we should have respect for one another and our differences! Just a thought...Peace!
Hung Gar is where the Tiger Crane form came from. Other systems adopted it, but it is a pillar of the Hung system and he is butchering it. When I first started kung fu I trained with someone very similar to this guy and then spent years undoing bad habits. Doing these forms incorrectly can even be detrimental to your health. Bad alignment in your stances can destroy knees and ankles, incorrect alignment in strikes can damage hands, wrists, elbows and shoulders if you ever hit anything. The qi gong done incorrectly can cause blood flow issues, ruptured capillaries, and even a hernia. This guy is making money off of the martial arts equivalent of junk science, a snake oil salesman in karate pants.
Tiger crane is hung ga dude. I guess you don't know kung fu either
Jesshung
You are correct that tiger/crane
came from Hung Gar. Yet as drchango2010 hinted at other styles have adopted and adapted it so that there are other tiger/crane styles out there. Another example of this is the Bung Bo mantis form which has many variations. Some other tiger/crane styles look very similar to the Hung Gar system, some do not. I was only stating that Mr. Mace was not performing a Hung Gar tiger/crane style. I will say that you are correct if you look at it from the standpoint that all tiger/crane styles came from the original Hung Gar system in one way or another..
drchango2010
You bring up some very valid points and concerns. I appreciate your response, thanks!
No I am not, actually I study a different style of kung fu. I do have a great respect for the Hung Gar style. I was just saying that what Mr. Mace is doing is not Hung Gar. You can tell by looking at his form that it is not.
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I am kung-fu 3don black belt expert
Its look like hung gar
2019???
chan is more like the kung fu i want but lee is cooler
This is hunggar kungfu . Kung fu turkish style .turkish and huns brothers hungary turkey
HAJRA TURAN
Who is dat white guy doing traditional chinese martial art? :P
Me becouse I'm the the best marcholartis I'm a 7 degree black belt and I'm 9
This is NOT Hung Gar Kuen.
洪拳係要運氣嘅。例如鐵線拳。就係氣功嘅一種。
There is no such thing as "the tigercrane hand.
Its called kiu sao (bridge hand) or One finger divides heaven.
This is all wrong.
I'm from the Dang Fong style of Hung Gar Kuen. Not Quan- its Kuen. Jake you are messing with the wrong style this time. I wish i could come see you and get somethings straight. So take it back there is no tigercrane hand.
And the praying mantis has no beak. The Mantis has hooks.
I'm from Dang Fong Lineage Too! there's three of us here in the comments!
It's Jake Mace. Nothing about that name is authentic in the world of Martial Arts. I have asked so many martial arts masters in many different places on their opinion about JM. Nothing good ever came out of their mouths.
this is a disappointment; it is NOT tiger-crane. I know tiger crane. at least he got the tiger crane hand right.
Bad
Stop it :)
hey jake based on the documentaries that i have watched for the tiger crane they always start with their right hand and based on your video u start at ur left hand and those styles that u demonstrate is not even existed on those REAL AND LEGIT tiger crane practitioners! ur dragging kung fu down just please STOP!
This is fake
This is wrong do not hungur kungu go to best kungfu trainer
My tiger crane style is better than yous!
Fake fake fake fake😂😂😂
This is BS, what a disgrace.
I can't believe you actually getaway with this crap. Please stop! this is not Hung Gar Tiger Crane.