@@cmac9710$7.500. the dealership will take the tax credit. Market adjustment $4000. $3000 for unwanted add-ons and a BS Processing fees. You are never going to see one for the advertised price.
GM makes nice EVs, like Ford and Rivian. But the problem is that they're losing bucket loads of money on them. And pilling a huge battery pack on them doesn't help the cost of production. GM needs to build an EV from the ground up, improve EV production technology, like Rivian's doing, and get to scale. I'm pulling for you GM. Don't retreat.
@@777Outriggerbattery tech is the biggest holdup. Expensive, heavy, with highly temperamental discharge rates. Charging speed has been the one thing that has been improving and really doesn’t scare me anymore. If they’re losing money, I’m not sure if they can even see the horizon of less expensive battery solutions.
Last week I was able to test drive the new Equinox EV RS. really sweet, 1st time behind the wheel of an EV. We currently have a gas Equinox and love that. Amazing how smooth it was, and yes there is a little whinny electric motor noise but we noticed that since we didnt have the music rocking. Thanks to you all, I knew more about the car than the sales guy at the dealership
Bought the 2025 Base LT EV. Use the credits available! I got Fed $7500, State $7500, addition State $350, 2010 or newer $1500, Vet $500, Veterans Day $500 plus doc fee paid $625. That $18475 credit off an MSRP $34,995. Plus I had a trade that got my Equinox out the door for $7600.
@@dsl3994 I am looking to do the same thing. Unfortunately we do not have state credits. But still, I will have the fed $7500, GM Supplier $1000, Costco $1000, 2010 or newer $1500. That will be $11K off. My trade in will be about $10K. That will mean about $15K out the door.
Kyle, recently I drove this and the Blazer EV one after another. I tested the Blazer first, and was pretty impressed with the quality of build and performance. It was the AWD, and felt like a rocket off the line. You can tell it's quick, even with the extra size and weight. It was red with red and black interior...very upscale looking. Next I drove a medium gray Equinox EV with the same nice red inlaid panels in the seats with black trim also. I could tell by my driving that it was smaller and pretty nimble. It was the FWD model, and was not too slow. In fact, it felt more like my 2018 Volt Premier in the Kinetic blue. I think it appeared to be about 7 second off the line to sixty! I love the acceleration and handling. I was impressed!
On the Chevy website presently the only available models start at $43,295. 3LT AWD starts at $48,595. Had a 23 Chevy Bolt EUV Premiere and got tired of waiting for the Equinox so bought a used 23 VW ID.4 Pro S AWD with 961 miles for $29,395. Glad we did seeing the price point of the Equinox.
I'm curious why you would sell the Chevy Bolt EUV that you just bought last year? As to the equinox I think the lower trim levels are going to be the big sellers. That's probably true in the gas versions as well. You start to get into those higher trims. Why would I not just get a Tesla Model Y?
@@Chris-bg8mk Driven them several times. I definitely don't love the interior. Pretty boring... However the software side is about the best that there is. Acceleration and handling are quite good. And there's a ton of room. Don't like the door handle design on the outside. Don't like the door handle design on the inside either. You shouldn't have to explain to someone how to open a door It should be obvious. Currently drive a bolt Ev . Got a great deal on that, and it makes an excellent rideshare car. I have put 33,000 mi on it and 7 months. When I was buying that weren't any good deals on Tesla's at the time. I was making the choice today probably would pick a used model 3 from Hertz. You can get some pretty smoking deals right now
🤔...great video guys with great energy together. With the vehicles coming out please keep in mind that the regular everyday consumer isn't looking for the 0 to 60 times. They are looking for a reasonable price, features and range for everyday use. Take that into account when you both come from higher performance EVs but they don't deliver on range or features for the higher price you pay
Right? The assumption that DC fast charging is a killer....most folks drive 20-30 miles a day and might need DC charging a couple times a year tops. With a 320 mile range and 3.5 miles per kwh I could charge off my existing 20amp 120v outlet in my garage for everyday use and not even need a 240v charger installed. With just the 120v outlet you get 7mph charging. Sitting in the garage over night for 12 hrs that's 80 miles of range. My wife drives 5 miles each way to work and could do that charge once every 2 weeks 😂. There are hundreds of thousands of people that could drive that way their entire lives. It's the same as doing 0-60 times in SUV or minivan reviews. Interesting data but not relevant 99% of the time.
@@MrJbart1981 Totally agree with you. I own a 2015 Nissan Leaf S-trim. @131k miles I was greedy enough to purchase and had professionally installed a 62kWh Nissan battery pack to replace the OEM 24 kWh (83%SoH). The Leaf inexplicably lost the use of the Chademo, but with all the battery potential energy, I merely needed to plug into the wall 120-Volt outlet for my daily needs. With 180 miles range (highway speeds and climbing to 5,000' mtn pass) I can use 240- Volt commercial charger four hours at my destination to complete a roundtrip. My current work commute is merely four miles each way... so days go by before the battery pack SoC goes below 50%. Of course, it takes two days and nights to bring it from 50 to 100% @ 120-Volt wall plug. Mostly I charge it to 70 - 90%.
@@lelandhetrick205 I have TWO leaf's..A 2013 SL & a 2020 SV PLUS and I have been getting by with 120 Volt charging since it's alot of $$$ to get a 240 volt setup to the carport!! You DONT want to fast charge anyway so be glad the CD fast charging DIED...I let my brother drive my 2013 when I upgraded to the 2020 !
I think their perception is a bit warped from having access to a lot of high performance EVs. Understandable, but I wish some of these reviewers would consider the target market of the vehicles they review. Older reviewers are more capable of this, so maybe it's just a life experience thing
8 sec in ev standard is actually really slow, its not that its not enough for regular cruising, its just that when you need it you have it or when just want to have fun, its fun do be able to accelerate faster since ev don't have any character.
Like he said, you really need to prepare for an overtake like in a small combustion car and with an ev you shouldn't have to do that, its easy to add just a little bit more power.
Yeah, we picked one up for our daughter partially because it is not too quick for a new driver. I still never worry about getting on the highway with it. Compared to our fast EVs, you actually get to "punch it", which is kind of fun. I'd say it feels like driving a Camry, which is one the most popular cars out there for actual commuting.
I think EVs need to focus more on efficiency. Sure; a Hummer is a monster but uses enough energy to power a freakin’ house to commute to work. In that vein, an 8-second FWD EV seems like a good start.
You need to compare this car to a gas RAV4 or CRV. That is where Chevy needs to get conquest sales. That’s why EV’s are 8% market share, people don’t really buy cars on 0-60 performance they buy price and practicality.
I think you nailed it! Especially the market for these kind of vehicles now is criss crossing into ICE market share which GM wants. These buyers may not care about 0-60 performance and.have practicality in mind. If GM can conquer this segment by nailing this benefit and keeping the price comparable to the competition ICE vehicles while reassuring EV negative public perspective then and only then will these start overtaking ICE vehicles. I like that they sell both and offer consumers the choice to cross shop between the ICE and EV counterparts.
Doesn't exist right now though. With cloth seats and very few options considering the segment it's in? I bet not a single dealer stocks a base base base model 1lt. Everyone will have 3-5k or more in options pack's.
And exactly how much is GM going to charge for a data plan to use their infotainment system? The whole point of Android Auto and Apple Carplay is that you are re-using something you already pay for (cell phone) instead of incurring a new subscription fee. We want less charges, not more.
That's the sad reality, and likely the main reason why my next vehicle won't be a GM one. Sad, because I've been with them since the Spark days, and am quite dependent on the wireless CarPlay they gave me in my Bolt. Like the heated steering wheel, I can't go back now.
It's because an EV requires integration with the battery system for range projection. The car can't talk to the apple car play and tell it where the next charging stop is. That's why they choose Google for the map system as it is integrated with their internal car battery data. Can't do that with apple carplay. Apple sucks
I’ve been saying for years that normal acceleration is a perfect trade off for decent range. Give me a car that will go four hundred miles on a charge and I would even accept a nine second zero to sixty acceleration time. Not everyone needs a slot car but we all need to get where we’re going without stopping to charge up a few times every day just to get to work and home. We should be able to only do that once or twice a week.
This is the most important EV to come out yet, especially when they get the 1lt out. A decent looking compact SUV for sub 30k after rebates. If this one doesn't sell great it'll be surprising.
It's fwd weighs nearly 5,000# with 6 lug wheels and has slower charging than a 2018 tesla model 3 lr. Oh yeah it also costs more than a model 3 does or a similarly equipped model Y. Tows less, less performance made in mx etc. 😀 I wonder if the announced in 2022 30k starting price base cloth seats 1lt fwd now at 35k will ever even exist? I bet no dealer stocks any of them ALL will come with 3-5k in options or MORE.
Maybe people don’t want to be associated with elon. Plus, not everything needs to be 0-60 in 3 seconds. A person cant go from a nissan rogue to what is basically land rocket. Would you like to compare the cyber’truck’ to its gas competition? Also, GM is probably one of the only companies that actually have experience with EVs
yea, bnut not really , the most important ones are the actual cheap ones, those are the ones who actually flip the industry, those are aswell the hardest to make, by far. thats why they come last but we are almost there, + the new car category "robotaxi" which is the ultimate mobility imo because the cheapest of all for sure. and price is the most important thing
@@4literv6 If my GM car breaks down I can take it to my dealer 10-15 minutes away to 2 of them. A third one just a tad further. Nearest Tesla service center is at least 2 hours away. Not everyone lives in California or near a major city. We get it you are a Tesla fanboy. Just because someone else likes something else it shouldn't bother you.
Honestly didn't even think about Equinox as an option but the storage capacity is just shy of Ioniq 5. And seeing that the AWD is at least "acceptable" for you guys, I may have to add this to my list of possibilities for my first EV. Can't wait for the SUV comparison vid!
All good till things go wrong nobody wants to know about your problem ,and no one can fix it ,good luck with your ride, there not worth plastic shit made in china,????😭😭😭😭😭😭
Haha, love the intro Kyle, I get it. This vehicle is a great entry level Ev by GM. Honestly GM as been doing some good work in the Ev industry lately, kudos to them.
The bolt EUV was good. The Blazer is way too expensive. This model is relatively expensive because there are no 1LT trims available, and the lowest available trim Fwd is 43k.
im impressed, this is a LOT better than i thought it would be. looks good, really great tech (that screen rivals Tesla responsiveness to me), good range, acceptable charging (although not great). this would be a great first EV for a lot of people.
This will be a decent value EV for people who are cost conscious and don't care about power, speed, or the quietest ride. That's how mass market vehicles tend to be. It isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the price point shouldn't bring expectations of refinement.
That's the problem I see with a lot of TH-cam comments about this car. They just don't get that not everyone cares about power, speed, and all that jazz.
@@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquirywhen a car slows down the weight shifts to the front. Having the motor connected to the front wheels means it gets more force there to drive the regen.
My understanding is that you get Maps for 8 years but the apps data plan is only 3 years. After that you need to pay for a data plan for the apps or maybe tether your phone. Not sure how convenient tethering your phone is, might be fine. I think reviewers need to start commenting on this because as Kyle says the apps are a big part of the experience. I drove the Blazer and was impressed at how massive the center screen is. The horsepower on the Blazer AWD felt adequate for me. I like the knobs and switches. I disagree with Kyle about the shifter. It was the one thing that felt cheap to me and I wasn’t crazy about how it functioned. Not a big deal, but a minus for me. If you test drive this, try to get the dealership to show you the apps, when I test drove the Blazer the salesman said it wasn’t ready to show the apps. I’m hoping that they have a quick way to show you how the Google system works that doesn’t require you to log in or create some kind of account. I called the dealership and wasn’t able to get ahold of someone who could explain the various plans that come with this car. That’s a problem.
@@JohnFromArlingtron Yes. People leasing won’t care but I wonder about selling the car after that. If tethering your phone is seamless then I suppose it will be okay.
@@MegaWilderness Nobody's forcing you to buy one. Hell, if you dislike the infotainment enough, nothing's stopping you from popping a suction phone mount onto the window and using whatever mapping apps, and other things that you might want.
Caranddriver did their recent test and got 7.7 seconds 0-60 for a FWD trim with 21s. The bolt would do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. So yes its kind of slow but not really because of its instant torque. WAY better than equivalent hybird like the crv and rav4 which also do 7.5 seconds or so but only with the battery not dead. And for anyone wondering the AWD version does 5.9 seconds or so. Also 1.5 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile. Also caranddriver got 260 miles of range @ 75mph on the FWD 21s and AWD 19s.
That's right about 3.1miles per kwh so not bad at hwy speeds, but nothing impressive in 2024 for a fwd low power ground up ev. For reference the Kia niro or kona can match or beat that as ice platform conversion evs.
@@rcpmac that's silly comparison... i3 about 2000 lbs lighter with half the range, much less interior space and cargo capacity, oh and I doubt you're even averaging 4.3 mi/kwh at 75 miles per hour on the highway come on man!
As of the posting of this video (June 1st), only the 2LT FWD is available to order at $43,295, and the only available "in transit" models are 3LT FWD at just shy of $46k. A Blazer EV starts at $48k. The promised "base 1LT" at $33,600 won't be available until later. This is a great video on a solid car, but I'm not buying into GM's marketing BS of "less than 30k" until customers can get their hands on one without markups.
@@swecreationsno, it wasn’t. For those of us who are taller, larger, and size 14 feet… the Bolt was not even on the table. The Blazer EV finally made a vehicle we can seriously look at. Hoping the Equinox will also. Will find out later today. Problem with the online reviewers are they are all skinny, short, skinny leg jeans wearing folks that are more concerned with cosmetic issues and nerd issues that quite frankly no one really cares about once they finally find a truely comfortable ride.
Y'all are having too much fun! Thank you for the review. I'm still holding out for a Tesla minivan, but I'm glad GM is putting something out there that will meet folks' needs in an entry level EV. Keep 'em coming. Thanks!
That 3RS you're driving at the end (fully specced) is going to cost the same as the Cadillac Optiq. So a no brainer to get the Caddy with more power, slightly higher range number, and much nicer interior.
It's not a no brainer if all you are doing is leasing it which is what is going to be happening with a lot of these EV's. You are not taking that into consideration.
I bet this will be a great EV. The best might come from Tesla, but GM has a long history of building well thought out and reliable EVs. The Bolt and even the Spark EV have superb reputions.
The Ultium cells (LG) can charge better, but GM is being conservative and charging to a lower C rate per cell to not exceed ~50 to 52 degrees Celsius maximum temperature. For reference, Tesla charges to 62 degrees Celsius per cell. You will have far less degradation on the GM cells than on Teslas.
To be fair, degradation on Teslas is pretty good. Other than a +/- 5% degradation in the first year or so, it then slows down a lot. I would still prefer faster charging and am not worried about degradation.
Supply the reference of 62C battery temperatures in a Tesla! Teslas have the most efficient heatpump system in an EV with the Octovalve design ensuring the battery is bought to optimum charging temperature of 40C before the car arrives at the charger and limiting to 45C during charging. During normal driving the temperature is kept in the 15-30C range. The cooling system in BEVs is a prime area where engineering expertize shows. See the videos on the Ford mess at Munro teardown. and comments on the Hyundai three system approach... With CATL and BYD packs rated at over a million kilometres, GM should not be worried about limiting charging rates! Unless their hvac is sub par... Make sure you catch the Equinox teardown! th-cam.com/video/m1kHsd3Ocxc/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/01lWmPi4cTk/w-d-xo.html
@@waynerussell6401Another lemming falling for Elon giving industry standard devices new names and thinking it is new tech Tesla invented. Octovalve! Ha!
Or the 1997 ev s10? Which they did the same thing as the ev1, leased em then took them back&crushed them. Oh yeah gm also had ev trucks over a century ago. 👍🏻
GM had originally specked the 3RS with the 19.2 kW charger but it has since been removed for this model year... you can only spec it on the Equinox's cousin the Optiq.
Kyle, you should drive my 2015 Prius V for a while. Your view of "slow" would change. I just trundle along at the speed limit or a few miles over. I get everywhere I want to go, at 44 mpg without any effort at economy, other than restraining myself from buying something else. Living in the country in a county with only a rumor of one public charging station maybe existing (haven't looked for it), the hybrid is the way to go for me for now. But the slowness you perceive is a matter of perception. For daily use, that Equinox is as fast as it needs to be.
Drove by a Chevy dealer the other day and saw it on display at the entrance. It caught my eye and I actually turned my head to look at it. Its a pretty nice looking car. Hopefully it doesnt have the typical "GM Quality". ie, electronics issues, quickly degrading interior materials, etc.
One of the best reviews I’ve seen on this channel - been watching for a few years now. You and Jordan joking around, plus him replying from behind the camera was awesome. Great dynamic and great car 👍
My dad just got this in the 2RS trim. Got it over a Y because the lease was cheaper than Tesla. Interior is really nice and a good mix of screen and physical buttons. We have three Tesla’s in the family, so it was time to switch it up.
Another great review. Thank you Kyle & Jordan. Please do a review on the Volvo US EX30 as soon as possible. I have been on the reserve list practically from its introduction. From everything I see and read it is to good to be true. RWD version.
We've had our Equinox EV on lease for about 2 weeks so far. A few weird things we're not crazy about, but overall very pleased with it. The CarPlay/AndroidAuto being gone is a bummer, the drive modes don't feel like they do anything, and at highway speeds there is a little vibration in the steering wheel. Not sure if a tire is out of balance or what. But we drove it from 100% down to 15% between the Wednesday we picked it up and that Sunday. Total of 270 miles or so, with an estimated 55 miles remaining. So the range is good, does way better using cruise control everywhere which is something I need to get use to.
Picked up my equinox EV recently off an incredible lease deal. Let me tell you my co worker has a base model y awd which we go to everywhere in and i dont miss that tesla at all. This is plenty quick i may even say the 8 second is under rated. Live in the broiler area of california so dont miss the panoramic sunroof. Only thing i wish it had was a sun roof for the few times the weather is nice.
Currently Bolt EUV owner here. My only complaint is the low pack voltage. I'm frequently charging at 50 kW stations and this car will actually charge slower on those because of the low nominal voltage. Otherwise seems like a very solid car
18:53 - I'm pretty sure that knob is just glued to the screen and triggers the touch-screen behind itself when you turn it. That's the way Ford does it.
Went to buy the Equinox EV 2LT RS AWD, drove it and liked it. However, after driving the Blazer 2LT EV AWD, which is oddly and currently similarly priced at this time, and loved it. The Blazer EV was just better sized, better seat controls and comfortable overall ride. At such close prices, I purchased a Blazer EV 2LT AWD, w/ panoramic moon roof and absolutely LOVE IT! I HIGHLY suggest driving and inspecting both before doing anything. The Equinox can get up to $50k with a damn manual, plastic hand crank, to lift the passenger's seat. WTH? That was so wild to me for the price. When the $39k model ACTUALLY becomes available, it'll be a hit, but right now, I'd highly suggest looking at the Blazer EV if you're going to spend money.
@@hwirtwirt4500 I own a lot of cars. My model X has better panel gaps than my BMW X5M. My model X has been serviced one time in nearly 9 years of ownership. I have spent nothing on it as it was a front suspension adjustment under warranty. My BMW X5M has had over $3600 in brake work and I can hear a caliper right now and need to bring it in again. It’s exhausting… I’m sick and tired of my BMWs, Mercedes, my A7, Aston Martin and Maserati all having maintenance issues. What build quality issues are you speaking about? 2018 model 3s? My model X is from 2016 back when Tesla supposedly didn’t know how to make cars and yet every F-ing car I own has thousands of dollars of work done every single year. All I do is drive my Tesla model X and I drive it harder than any of my other cars. My family fights over it. It’s the safest car we own. I have friends like you who say sh-t and have no idea what they are talking about. Many of them now own a Tesla after driving mine. Their wives and kids love it and so do they, but they don’t like to admit it. You probably own an old Honda and hate musk. Waaa waaa cry. Tired of you woke POS hurling “build quality” like it’s in every car. It not. I’m living proof and so is sandy munro and other tear down channels. Get lost kid… 😂
@@hwirtwirt4500 styling is personal. There is not a single American car made in the last 30 years that’s worth purchasing from a styling point of view. IMHO… I have a very contemporary home on a lake with a very minimal aesthetic. I can’t wait to own a Tesla without a dumb steering wheel. People who b-tch about stalks are morons. Everyone one of them.
Chevy Equinox 2LT FWD 43.295,- Model Y RWD 43.930,- Outside design lies in the eyes of the beholder. I am only interested in: Frunk? Efficiency? In the US NACS and Tesla Supercharger access? Supercruise/Bluecruise/Autopilot? FSD - when? Range? Dealer Markup? Mandatory maintenance appointments when and how much will they cost? White or at least bright interior? App? Remote control? Dog mode? Camp mode? Other features that set it above the mediocre competition?
When I look at the Model Y RWD online, I see a base price of $44,990 without $1,390 destination. Chevy's $43,295 includes destination, so the Equinox EV is >$3,000 cheaper, and it includes a portable charger. Of course, Tesla's pricing may change tomorrow.
@@ML-jr4ns Model Y in 25003 (just as an example) costs 46630,-- incl. delivery fees. And 46,990 from Fairway Chevrolet GMC. With similar specs. I do not know whether delivery fees are included. I can not see any mention of them. I do not know where you live so i can not verify your claims.
Whatever you get the best deal on, they are all good. I’d get the equinox or the id4 though since they have the tax credit unlike the mach e even though I like the mach e the best
The pricing argument makes sense for someone who keeps a vehicle for a relatively short time. However, if you tend to keep your vehicles long-term, then the argument is no longer legitimate. If you like what the upper trims offer, the size, and want something different than everyone else (Tesla), then the upper trims could be a logical choice.
Anyone who pays more for one of these than a Y, is a fool lol. Yeah.. i get you might like the exterior look.. and maybe even the more old school button crap.. but to pay MORE for significantly less of everything that is important in a car.. just to look different.. you gotta be a fool. And you can include the Kia and Hyundai EVs in that.. but i don’t think they compete well on the price, until they can qualify for the rebate.
@@airheart1 How are they are fool? A lot of people just don't want a Tesla. Just one example the nearest Tesla service center is well over 2 hours away from me. I have 3 Chevy dealerships in a 25 mile radius. Not everyone needs a car that goes 0-60 in 4 seconds.
@@PowerNGlory you make a valid point on that. But speaking from actual experience.. never been a real problem. Tesla sends a tech to you on the rare occasion you need a little something fixed. EVs just don’t require much work.. hardly ever. Yeah.. it could be an inconvenience if you need some major work done. But to gain all the things you gain out of a really good EV.. not just a Tesla these days.. though they are probably the best bang for the buck, by far still. There are other good EVs.. specifically Kia/Hyundai’s. Though i’m not sure how their prices match up right now. But to pay $45k for an upscale version of this Chevy and pass on Model Y with more of just about everything, for less $.. i get your point that people still have some fear of going with a Tesla for various reasons.. all i can tell you is, as a guy who came from Cadillac and lots of nice German cars.. Tesla trounces them.. hands down.. not even close.. I wouldn’t trade my 7 year old Tesla for any new EV I’ve seen yet.. for various reasons. So from my perspective.. peoples reticence is unwarranted.. and to pay more for something that is significantly less.. i find foolish. As they said in the video.. i get someone buying the stock version of this Chevy to save $5-10k. That makes sense. But to pay equal or more against a really good EV.. nope. There is no way i understand that.
The point you are missing is that Tesla's look like crap inside in regards to only a tablet like screen with little to nothing else on the dash. The Equinox is more appealing to first time EV buyers because the dashboard resembles a gas vehicle.
was a good report with lots of good info, too bad there was not more on the charger screen, just one glimpse in the beginning, would have liked to see it ramp up...
Bolt owner here. Last thing Im trying to do is go into another 40+ minute 10 - 80% charging vehicle. Also, no carplay, no android auto, no frunk, and front charge port location. All deal breakers for me. Driving face first into parking spots disrupts every cell in my body😂. I've been backing into parking spots since I was 16 with a learners permit.
Umm, the bolt needs way more than 40 minutes to go 10-80% and to be fair, this will do it in the 36 minute range, practical in use experience on trips this will charge about 3 times faster than the Bolt for equivalent added miles.
I like the built in google map and google assistance so I don't have to depend on my phone. Also built in Spodify and Alexa. Also like the 2 screens as opposed to the Tesla with just one screen. Much nicer screens up higher for better visability
@barterdog I'm holding off for the Boltium. It's confirmed LFP battery tech, with Ultium motor, and perhaps 70kW capacity. LFP generally hold charging curve to 90ish percent. So even if it's only 120kW peak, we should see 0-100 in under 1 hour. So 10-80 should be pretty sweat, sub 30 minutes.
Trick at 17:00 doesn't apparently work on all Ultiums. For Lyriq, tapping the accelerator 3 times doesn't bring the car to life, and the subsequent brake pedal press does not activate always-on mode. For Ultium cars with the power button (like the Lyriq), is there another method?
@@stennordenmalm9900 I’m here. I think it’s great. Most Tesla owners used to drive other makes of vehicles before Tesla was a thing, and I’m quite fond of legacy auto makers and have been rooting for them for years to compete with Tesla. It’s also good to see Hyundai pushing Tesla to be better. But I’m impressed with the Equinox and would never discourage anyone from buying one.
@@stennordenmalm9900Crazy Tesla fan here too. I’m rooting for ALL EVs, and rooting for all legacy automakers to produce great EV competition. Competition is great for prices and quality, pushing all automakers to strive to do better. This looks like a great SUV - I’m genuinely very happy this is coming out and that it was reviewed so well. It will probably be very popular, moving more people to electric vehicles. And am looking forward to Tesla turning on the Supercharger network for GM, just as they’ve done for Ford and Rivian. All good things.
I wish reviewers would stop saying the low 300s range is all you need for most people. We need larger range EVs for better charging, climate, and cold weather experiences.
Nobody does regen better than Tesla and nobody does brake blending better than Porsche. Honestly, I like Tesla's approach, where picking up the foot from the accelerator pedal means braking and brakes pedal is 100% friction brakes.
Any 3 Trims (3LT & 3RS) give you Dual Climate. They do have an interior with light grey accents (e.g., mid part of seats and part of dash). And that "lighter" interior is only available on the 2LT & 3LT Trims. The RS Trims come with all black and black and red interiors. Unfortunately with the LT trims you are stuck with the blue accents regardless of the exterior (e.g., your exterior is Red but the interior accents are blue....I'm not a fan of that choice or lack of choice). They should have gone with a neutral color (grey?) instead of the blue accents.
I'm surprised everyone is saying the price is low. 1LT doesn't exist on their website. It starts at the 2LT which is $43,300. 1k more for a MY that has the ability to fully drive you around.
My Bolt EUV has a similar HVAC system when set to Auto. If you turn the heat on high and get it warm and then change it to 70, it cranks the AC to decrease the temp even if it is 20 degrees outside. Oh well, first world problems. I love my Bolt and I will be thinking about trading up to one of these in the next couple of years.
I like the base models most often because they have fewer unnecessary options to break. We have an AWD Ioniq 5 SE, same battery and HP as the high end models but no sunroof/glass roof (someone paid $4000 to have their fixed after it shattered), no power liftgate (there are issues with rattles and noise on them) and longer range and cheaper tires with the 19" wheels vs the 21s on the limited. A few years ago I wanted the Equinox but bought the Ioniq 5 since this kept getting delayed and we still have android auto.
Comment on the 31:50 timestamp: It is true that the Bolt's regen paddle is an on/off switch, and you can't modulate the amount of regen with the paddle. But there is a workaround that not many people know. You can pull the paddle and modulate the amount of regen by using the accelerator peddle. It sounds counterintuitive, but try pulling the regen paddle before letting go of the accelerator pedal. Then slowly letting off the accelerator pedal for a gentler stop. Think of the regen paddle as a one peddle mode switch that will turn off as soon as you let go. It is probably the same for the Equinox EV.
I agree 100% with you, the best move for this car is the base model. Otherwise, buying it for anything above 44k makes no sense when it competing directly with Model Y
@@JohnFromArlingtron must be a Democrat crying Elon isn't the Democrats green tree hugging Messiah they wanted him to be, he actually has common sense. Go buy anything else and try to road trip with it, I did, regret it every day i drive it.....the Tesla charging infrastructure is a selling point on its own, and if you think otherwise, rent any other EV and charge at a public charger...I guarantee you will change your mind as you sit there twice as long (if it works) and twice the cost to charge.
Are you still rocking a 2g flip phone too? Because FOR REAL that's what every other car feels like compared to "Elmo's" car and I'm a guy that's swaps cars a lot. I've tried going back to legacy brand cars and I think it will be okay until it just isn't. I find Elmo being my friend again and again because I can't find any legacy brand cars that even come close.
You forgot to mention the Chevy Spark! I had that 2015 in 2016, and got the 2017 Bolt in 2019. Equinox gas model was impressive. Looking forward to testing a high spec EVquinox, vs the Rivian R2.
I have a comment regarding the 360 degree view mentioned at the 22:35 mark in the video. I have a 2023 Bolt EUV Premier with the same camera system, and it has been to the dealership 3 times for the system being faulty, and it is STILL not fixed! They have replaced the coax cables, the cameras, and the "VPM" which stands for Video Processing Module. My local dealership who has "EV certified" technicians, for some reason can't fix the problem. They even contacted someone at corporate to try and get help fixing it the last time I brought it in. You don't need this feature to drive the car, but it makes backing up VERY unsafe. I would not buy another Chevrolet electric vehicle, the dealerships don't know how to repair them, you will also wait MONTHS for spare parts to come in when you do have a problem! It took them months to get in one of the parts I needed, and it did not even fix the problem, and I still have a broken 360 degree camera system!!!
It's going to take a while to get weird parts on any vehicle especially a new one. Do you also not have normal mirrors? I know backup cameras are nice and all, but it's not dangerous.
@@matt45540 The visibility out of the back of the vehicle is horrible, so I feel much more safe backing out with the 360 degree camera system fully functional. I actually would not have had a problem with the wait time on the parts if it had actually FIXED the issue, which it did not. I am trying to lemon law the car right now. Never again!
I stopped at a Tesla Supercharger in my model 3 at the SC station was only 150kw. And it was plenty fast to add the 50% battery I needed to get home. It was so fast didn’t have time to walk anywhere for lunch without worry about idle charges, so just had to wait like 20minutes. But had time to make a bathroom break. I don’t think you need to have 250kw.
I just did a nation-wide search for Equinox EV and the cheapest one in stock is $43,295. Nothing in the low 30s. Not even close. Base Tesla Y is $44,990. Cheapest Mach-E Select is $37,213 (250 mi range)
One thing you didn't mention is that Equinox supports full V2H which makes this likely cheaper to buy than an equivalent home battery... And it also happens to double as an SUV.
I think it is currently proprietary to only GM vehicles at this point, i wouldn't wan't to be locked into GM products if i want to buy another car in the future
@@JD-yx7be yeah, that's kind of a mess. It seems like the best way to do that type of setup currently is to just design the home backup system with an AC input and use V2L vehicles to send AC over to the home system. At least that way it will always work, and be hardware agnostic, even if it has to be a manual process of plugging in a cable when you need it.
Just configured a base and it's still 44k before dealer mark up. I really want the big 3 to succeed but I just can't justify this over even a base Y which is cheaper with tax cred.
Speed is not a major consideration as a retired couple driving 5000 miles a year. So an EQ LT along with the Volvo EX30 are what we are considering to replace our BMW X3.
I like it and I agree, go base. I am a Bolt owner and I fall into the category of moving to the next step up. Question: Can the base be optioned with AWD?
Picked up my 2024 Chevy equinox ev on Friday. Love it thus far
How's the charging experience so far?
Was there a dealer markup above MSRP..??
My condolences. I'm sorry for your loss. Hopefully it wasn't for the full 35.000. Even the 28.000 for a Mexican built EV. Hopefully you have a lease
@@cmac9710$7.500. the dealership will take the tax credit. Market adjustment $4000. $3000 for unwanted add-ons and a BS Processing fees. You are never going to see one for the advertised price.
@@Offensively-normal Why? It has good range, decent charging speed, at a reasonable price
I think we’ll see these things everywhere!
Next time you’re in a new GM EV can you show the park assist feature? And test out if the google voice command works well please
GM makes nice EVs, like Ford and Rivian. But the problem is that they're losing bucket loads of money on them. And pilling a huge battery pack on them doesn't help the cost of production. GM needs to build an EV from the ground up, improve EV production technology, like Rivian's doing, and get to scale. I'm pulling for you GM. Don't retreat.
in 2030 maybe ....
@@777Outriggerbattery tech is the biggest holdup. Expensive, heavy, with highly temperamental discharge rates. Charging speed has been the one thing that has been improving and really doesn’t scare me anymore. If they’re losing money, I’m not sure if they can even see the horizon of less expensive battery solutions.
@@777Outrigger GM is expecting to turn a profit on their EVs next year. They are ramping now and the more batteries they make the cheaper it costs.
Kudos to Chevy for not putting stupid glass roofs and keeping the price lower
Most cars are available without glass roof. It’s just that in reviews they always show maxed out cars with glass roof.
I bought a 2LT after trading in my Bolt EUV and I have to say that I’m loving the Equinox! Well done GM!
How much better are the seats than the ones in the EUV?
Last week I was able to test drive the new Equinox EV RS. really sweet, 1st time behind the wheel of an EV. We currently have a gas Equinox and love that. Amazing how smooth it was, and yes there is a little whinny electric motor noise but we noticed that since we didnt have the music rocking. Thanks to you all, I knew more about the car than the sales guy at the dealership
For most consumers price is critical. You film a lot of great EV’s but are way to expensive for the majority of people. Love the channel
GM knows that after the '24 Blazer EV so they're responding
Bought the 2025 Base LT EV. Use the credits available! I got Fed $7500, State $7500, addition State $350, 2010 or newer $1500, Vet $500, Veterans Day $500 plus doc fee paid $625. That $18475 credit off an MSRP $34,995. Plus I had a trade that got my Equinox out the door for $7600.
@@dsl3994 I am looking to do the same thing. Unfortunately we do not have state credits. But still, I will have the fed $7500, GM Supplier $1000, Costco $1000, 2010 or newer $1500. That will be $11K off. My trade in will be about $10K. That will mean about $15K out the door.
Kyle, recently I drove this and the Blazer EV one after another. I tested the Blazer first, and was pretty impressed with the quality of build and performance. It was the AWD, and felt like a rocket off the line. You can tell it's quick, even with the extra size and weight. It was red with red and black interior...very upscale looking.
Next I drove a medium gray Equinox EV with the same nice red inlaid panels in the seats with black trim also. I could tell by my driving that it was smaller and pretty nimble. It was the FWD model, and was not too slow. In fact, it felt more like my 2018 Volt Premier in the Kinetic blue. I think it appeared to be about 7 second off the line to sixty! I love the acceleration and handling. I was impressed!
On the Chevy website presently the only available models start at $43,295. 3LT AWD starts at $48,595. Had a 23 Chevy Bolt EUV Premiere and got tired of waiting for the Equinox so bought a used 23 VW ID.4 Pro S AWD with 961 miles for $29,395. Glad we did seeing the price point of the Equinox.
There are many good deals on used EVs right now. ID4 is a good car.
I recently purchased a loaded 23 Bolt EUV that has an MSRP of 40K for 26K.
I'm curious why you would sell the Chevy Bolt EUV that you just bought last year?
As to the equinox I think the lower trim levels are going to be the big sellers. That's probably true in the gas versions as well. You start to get into those higher trims. Why would I not just get a Tesla Model Y?
@@kens97sto171 Have you ever been in a model Y? It's like an empty shell of a car. Maybe appeals to Marie Kondo fans...
@@Chris-bg8mk
Driven them several times. I definitely don't love the interior. Pretty boring...
However the software side is about the best that there is. Acceleration and handling are quite good. And there's a ton of room.
Don't like the door handle design on the outside. Don't like the door handle design on the inside either. You shouldn't have to explain to someone how to open a door It should be obvious.
Currently drive a bolt Ev .
Got a great deal on that, and it makes an excellent rideshare car.
I have put 33,000 mi on it and 7 months.
When I was buying that weren't any good deals on Tesla's at the time.
I was making the choice today probably would pick a used model 3 from Hertz. You can get some pretty smoking deals right now
🤔...great video guys with great energy together. With the vehicles coming out please keep in mind that the regular everyday consumer isn't looking for the 0 to 60 times. They are looking for a reasonable price, features and range for everyday use. Take that into account when you both come from higher performance EVs but they don't deliver on range or features for the higher price you pay
Right? The assumption that DC fast charging is a killer....most folks drive 20-30 miles a day and might need DC charging a couple times a year tops. With a 320 mile range and 3.5 miles per kwh I could charge off my existing 20amp 120v outlet in my garage for everyday use and not even need a 240v charger installed. With just the 120v outlet you get 7mph charging. Sitting in the garage over night for 12 hrs that's 80 miles of range. My wife drives 5 miles each way to work and could do that charge once every 2 weeks 😂. There are hundreds of thousands of people that could drive that way their entire lives. It's the same as doing 0-60 times in SUV or minivan reviews. Interesting data but not relevant 99% of the time.
@@MrJbart1981 Totally agree with you. I own a 2015 Nissan Leaf S-trim. @131k miles I was greedy enough to purchase and had professionally installed a 62kWh Nissan battery pack to replace the OEM 24 kWh (83%SoH). The Leaf inexplicably lost the use of the Chademo, but with all the battery potential energy, I merely needed to plug into the wall 120-Volt outlet for my daily needs. With 180 miles range (highway speeds and climbing to 5,000' mtn pass) I can use 240- Volt commercial charger four hours at my destination to complete a roundtrip. My current work commute is merely four miles each way... so days go by before the battery pack SoC goes below 50%. Of course, it takes two days and nights to bring it from 50 to 100% @ 120-Volt wall plug. Mostly I charge it to 70 - 90%.
I'm happy that gm is finally finding their footing.. good job on the equinox
@@lelandhetrick205 I have TWO leaf's..A 2013 SL & a 2020 SV PLUS and I have been getting by with 120 Volt charging since it's alot of $$$ to get a 240 volt setup to the carport!! You DONT want to fast charge anyway so be glad the CD fast charging DIED...I let my brother drive my 2013 when I upgraded to the 2020 !
I think their perception is a bit warped from having access to a lot of high performance EVs. Understandable, but I wish some of these reviewers would consider the target market of the vehicles they review. Older reviewers are more capable of this, so maybe it's just a life experience thing
Finally! A decent EV from GM that doesn't look like an eco box or cost an arm and a leg. Well done GM! Thanks for the review.
What do you mean by “ from GM…” it’s first in those categories from ANYONE! Tough audience in America.
Bolt is a good car
The bolt EUV was better looking and cheaper
$51k for a decent spec (mostly comparable to a $48k Model Y LR) is a bit much... so maybe not arm and leg, but at least leg and mostly arm.
warth less than $20,000
I work at the battery plant that makes the packs for these vehicles. This was certainly a joy to watch
I really have 0to60 fatigue. OMG 8 seconds isn’t fast enough? Kyle, 90%of us DRIVE NORMALLY!
8 sec in ev standard is actually really slow, its not that its not enough for regular cruising, its just that when you need it you have it or when just want to have fun, its fun do be able to accelerate faster since ev don't have any character.
Like he said, you really need to prepare for an overtake like in a small combustion car and with an ev you shouldn't have to do that, its easy to add just a little bit more power.
6 to 8 seconds is blazingly fast in comparison to "normal" vehicles. There is zero need for better than that.
Yeah, we picked one up for our daughter partially because it is not too quick for a new driver. I still never worry about getting on the highway with it. Compared to our fast EVs, you actually get to "punch it", which is kind of fun. I'd say it feels like driving a Camry, which is one the most popular cars out there for actual commuting.
I think EVs need to focus more on efficiency. Sure; a Hummer is a monster but uses enough energy to power a freakin’ house to commute to work. In that vein, an 8-second FWD EV seems like a good start.
You need to compare this car to a gas RAV4 or CRV. That is where Chevy needs to get conquest sales. That’s why EV’s are 8% market share, people don’t really buy cars on 0-60 performance they buy price and practicality.
Would like to see a compare video to the ICE equinox
I think you nailed it! Especially the market for these kind of vehicles now is criss crossing into ICE market share which GM wants. These buyers may not care about 0-60 performance and.have practicality in mind. If GM can conquer this segment by nailing this benefit and keeping the price comparable to the competition ICE vehicles while reassuring EV negative public perspective then and only then will these start overtaking ICE vehicles. I like that they sell both and offer consumers the choice to cross shop between the ICE and EV counterparts.
EVs are "only" 8% of total sales because thats 100% of current US market EV production capacity. Dealers can't sell more EVs than are made
Neither practically nor low price apply to all the giant pickups and SUVs I see.
@@CSHarvey What would you suggest automakers do with this problem?
I am surprised. I'm not a GM fan but they did a good job on this. Nice to see all the options for driving preferences.
Saw one last night and it looked much better in person than I thought it would.
You forgot about the best one. The 2014 Spark EV has an LFP battery and 400 lb-ft torque. Also has a proper hinged CCS cover, not a fiddly dongle.
Yes so does the Bolt EV.
Honestly, in black, this thing looks great
For regular people the price is the king, not 0 to 60 performance, etc.
310 miles range for $27 000 is really good.
Doesn't exist right now though. With cloth seats and very few options considering the segment it's in?
I bet not a single dealer stocks a base base base model 1lt. Everyone will have 3-5k or more in options pack's.
@@mikel4879 later this year
And exactly how much is GM going to charge for a data plan to use their infotainment system? The whole point of Android Auto and Apple Carplay is that you are re-using something you already pay for (cell phone) instead of incurring a new subscription fee. We want less charges, not more.
That's the sad reality, and likely the main reason why my next vehicle won't be a GM one. Sad, because I've been with them since the Spark days, and am quite dependent on the wireless CarPlay they gave me in my Bolt. Like the heated steering wheel, I can't go back now.
It's because an EV requires integration with the battery system for range projection. The car can't talk to the apple car play and tell it where the next charging stop is. That's why they choose Google for the map system as it is integrated with their internal car battery data. Can't do that with apple carplay. Apple sucks
This is a PERFECT first car. We'll definitely consider one for our teen. Particularly appreciate the 'slowness' for that use case.
I’ve been saying for years that normal acceleration is a perfect trade off for decent range. Give me a car that will go four hundred miles on a charge and I would even accept a nine second zero to sixty acceleration time. Not everyone needs a slot car but we all need to get where we’re going without stopping to charge up a few times every day just to get to work and home. We should be able to only do that once or twice a week.
First car? Yall are rich
@@MrUniq Was thinking the same...more of a hand down car after 5 years. If it still runs.
Way too expensive to give to a teen as a first car and far too large. This is like a family car!
Not sure slow = safe. Not saying a teen should have 5.0 power but being able to escape a dangerous situation is mandatory for me.
This is the most important EV to come out yet, especially when they get the 1lt out. A decent looking compact SUV for sub 30k after rebates. If this one doesn't sell great it'll be surprising.
It's fwd weighs nearly 5,000# with 6 lug wheels and has slower charging than a 2018 tesla model 3 lr.
Oh yeah it also costs more than a model 3 does or a similarly equipped model Y. Tows less, less performance made in mx etc. 😀
I wonder if the announced in 2022 30k starting price base cloth seats 1lt fwd now at 35k will ever even exist?
I bet no dealer stocks any of them ALL will come with 3-5k in options or MORE.
Maybe people don’t want to be associated with elon. Plus, not everything needs to be 0-60 in 3 seconds. A person cant go from a nissan rogue to what is basically land rocket. Would you like to compare the cyber’truck’ to its gas competition? Also, GM is probably one of the only companies that actually have experience with EVs
@@green29373 not many people buy cars to virtue signal.
yea, bnut not really , the most important ones are the actual cheap ones, those are the ones who actually flip the industry, those are aswell the hardest to make, by far.
thats why they come last but we are almost there, + the new car category "robotaxi" which is the ultimate mobility imo because the cheapest of all for sure.
and price is the most important thing
@@4literv6 If my GM car breaks down I can take it to my dealer 10-15 minutes away to 2 of them. A third one just a tad further. Nearest Tesla service center is at least 2 hours away. Not everyone lives in California or near a major city. We get it you are a Tesla fanboy. Just because someone else likes something else it shouldn't bother you.
You're smashing it, keep it coming!
Idk why but I really love how long his reviews are. They’re so thorough and detailed that you really don’t need to look any further
Honestly didn't even think about Equinox as an option but the storage capacity is just shy of Ioniq 5. And seeing that the AWD is at least "acceptable" for you guys, I may have to add this to my list of possibilities for my first EV. Can't wait for the SUV comparison vid!
All good till things go wrong nobody wants to know about your problem ,and no one can fix it ,good luck with your ride, there not worth plastic shit made in china,????😭😭😭😭😭😭
Haha, love the intro Kyle, I get it. This vehicle is a great entry level Ev by GM. Honestly GM as been doing some good work in the Ev industry lately, kudos to them.
The bolt EUV was good. The Blazer is way too expensive. This model is relatively expensive because there are no 1LT trims available, and the lowest available trim Fwd is 43k.
im impressed, this is a LOT better than i thought it would be. looks good, really great tech (that screen rivals Tesla responsiveness to me), good range, acceptable charging (although not great). this would be a great first EV for a lot of people.
Most comprehensive review I've seen on the Equinox. There is a lot to love. Great value....especially with the $7,500 incentive.
Those of Us Who need an economical car do not pay taxes....Low income..........And can not qualify for any tax rebate....Paul
They take it off at point of purchase now.
This will be a decent value EV for people who are cost conscious and don't care about power, speed, or the quietest ride. That's how mass market vehicles tend to be. It isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the price point shouldn't bring expectations of refinement.
That's the problem I see with a lot of TH-cam comments about this car. They just don't get that not everyone cares about power, speed, and all that jazz.
$50 grand....In My mind must bring much refinement................Paul
Between you and Francie my morning today is shot. Thanks (I mean it) 🙂
Yes, front motor as the main drive gives the best regen performance having the rear kick in on the AWD makes total sense.
Why
@@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquirywhen a car slows down the weight shifts to the front. Having the motor connected to the front wheels means it gets more force there to drive the regen.
My understanding is that you get Maps for 8 years but the apps data plan is only 3 years. After that you need to pay for a data plan for the apps or maybe tether your phone. Not sure how convenient tethering your phone is, might be fine. I think reviewers need to start commenting on this because as Kyle says the apps are a big part of the experience. I drove the Blazer and was impressed at how massive the center screen is. The horsepower on the Blazer AWD felt adequate for me. I like the knobs and switches. I disagree with Kyle about the shifter. It was the one thing that felt cheap to me and I wasn’t crazy about how it functioned. Not a big deal, but a minus for me. If you test drive this, try to get the dealership to show you the apps, when I test drove the Blazer the salesman said it wasn’t ready to show the apps. I’m hoping that they have a quick way to show you how the Google system works that doesn’t require you to log in or create some kind of account. I called the dealership and wasn’t able to get ahold of someone who could explain the various plans that come with this car. That’s a problem.
No-one needs an Internet connected car
So people who lease get everything free for a standard lease term. Sneaky.
@@JohnFromArlingtron Yes. People leasing won’t care but I wonder about selling the car after that. If tethering your phone is seamless then I suppose it will be okay.
@@MegaWilderness Nobody's forcing you to buy one. Hell, if you dislike the infotainment enough, nothing's stopping you from popping a suction phone mount onto the window and using whatever mapping apps, and other things that you might want.
@@pseudonymous1382 But will Tesla even work or recharge without being connected
Nice for the money, love the big screens compared to other EV's.
Caranddriver did their recent test and got 7.7 seconds 0-60 for a FWD trim with 21s. The bolt would do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. So yes its kind of slow but not really because of its instant torque. WAY better than equivalent hybird like the crv and rav4 which also do 7.5 seconds or so but only with the battery not dead.
And for anyone wondering the AWD version does 5.9 seconds or so. Also 1.5 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile. Also caranddriver got 260 miles of range @ 75mph on the FWD 21s and AWD 19s.
That's right about 3.1miles per kwh so not bad at hwy speeds, but nothing impressive in 2024 for a fwd low power ground up ev.
For reference the Kia niro or kona can match or beat that as ice platform conversion evs.
@@4literv6 I want to be positive but 3.1 is unacceptable today. My bmw i3 averages 4.3 mi/kwh and is capable of 4.8.
No impressive numbers here
@@rcpmac that's silly comparison... i3 about 2000 lbs lighter with half the range, much less interior space and cargo capacity, oh and I doubt you're even averaging 4.3 mi/kwh at 75 miles per hour on the highway come on man!
21" wheels and the brakes are so small that 16" wheels would fit.
Saw my first Equinox EV today at a Supermarket parking lot. Not a bad looking thing, and the good range with AWD and 460km range is a good package.
Chevy has come through with an excellent EV that’s affordable. I hope you can get your hands on the base model for review sometime soon.
As of the posting of this video (June 1st), only the 2LT FWD is available to order at $43,295, and the only available "in transit" models are 3LT FWD at just shy of $46k. A Blazer EV starts at $48k. The promised "base 1LT" at $33,600 won't be available until later. This is a great video on a solid car, but I'm not buying into GM's marketing BS of "less than 30k" until customers can get their hands on one without markups.
The may 2024 incentives on the Blazer were nuts. On Monday the new incentives should be released for the equinox
There are plenty of dealerships not doing mark ups....
@@Nebula1701Whining about alleged markups are the new social currency in some circles.
I guarantee chevy is losing a fortune on every one they sell. Tesla is mopping the floor with everyone.
Not a lot of dealers are doing markups on EVs where I am. Now it's more about whether or not they have interest rate incentives or MSRP knock downs.
Finally, a Goldilocks EV. Size, range, comfort, features, look, and performance.
IMHO the Chevrolet Bolt EV was already that. It just needed a bit faster charging. This is too big to be practical in my opinion.
My wife would agree with you. I'm 6'3" and the Bolt is too tight for me
@@swecreationsno, it wasn’t. For those of us who are taller, larger, and size 14 feet… the Bolt was not even on the table. The Blazer EV finally made a vehicle we can seriously look at. Hoping the Equinox will also. Will find out later today.
Problem with the online reviewers are they are all skinny, short, skinny leg jeans wearing folks that are more concerned with cosmetic issues and nerd issues that quite frankly no one really cares about once they finally find a truely comfortable ride.
Being a Chevy/GM is the only downside.
@@swecreationsHow would you ever figure a small SUV is “too big to be practical”?
Y'all are having too much fun!
Thank you for the review. I'm still holding out for a Tesla minivan, but I'm glad GM is putting something out there that will meet folks' needs in an entry level EV.
Keep 'em coming.
Thanks!
That 3RS you're driving at the end (fully specced) is going to cost the same as the Cadillac Optiq. So a no brainer to get the Caddy with more power, slightly higher range number, and much nicer interior.
It's not a no brainer if all you are doing is leasing it which is what is going to be happening with a lot of these EV's. You are not taking that into consideration.
This form factor is more appealing imo
Edit nvm got the Optiq confused with the new Cadillac sedan EV
Both have identical power trains..............Paul
I bet this will be a great EV. The best might come from Tesla, but GM has a long history of building well thought out and reliable EVs. The Bolt and even the Spark EV have superb reputions.
The Ultium cells (LG) can charge better, but GM is being conservative and charging to a lower C rate per cell to not exceed ~50 to 52 degrees Celsius maximum temperature. For reference, Tesla charges to 62 degrees Celsius per cell. You will have far less degradation on the GM cells than on Teslas.
Yep - the lower numbers for good reasons.
To be fair, degradation on Teslas is pretty good. Other than a +/- 5% degradation in the first year or so, it then slows down a lot. I would still prefer faster charging and am not worried about degradation.
Supply the reference of 62C battery temperatures in a Tesla!
Teslas have the most efficient heatpump system in an EV with the Octovalve design ensuring the battery is bought to optimum charging temperature of 40C before the car arrives at the charger and limiting to 45C during charging. During normal driving the temperature is kept in the 15-30C range.
The cooling system in BEVs is a prime area where engineering expertize shows. See the videos on the Ford mess at Munro teardown. and comments on the Hyundai three system approach...
With CATL and BYD packs rated at over a million kilometres, GM should not be worried about limiting charging rates! Unless their hvac is sub par...
Make sure you catch the Equinox teardown!
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@@waynerussell6401 This in not an equinox ev tear down. Ford MachE
@@waynerussell6401Another lemming falling for Elon giving industry standard devices new names and thinking it is new tech Tesla invented. Octovalve! Ha!
Oh give me 150KW charging...said the Bolt owner! Heaven, I'm in heaven!
Don't forget the Spark.
Or the 1997 ev s10? Which they did the same thing as the ev1, leased em then took them back&crushed them.
Oh yeah gm also had ev trucks over a century ago. 👍🏻
He mentioned the S-10
GM had originally specked the 3RS with the 19.2 kW charger but it has since been removed for this model year... you can only spec it on the Equinox's cousin the Optiq.
Kyle, you should drive my 2015 Prius V for a while. Your view of "slow" would change. I just trundle along at the speed limit or a few miles over. I get everywhere I want to go, at 44 mpg without any effort at economy, other than restraining myself from buying something else. Living in the country in a county with only a rumor of one public charging station maybe existing (haven't looked for it), the hybrid is the way to go for me for now. But the slowness you perceive is a matter of perception. For daily use, that Equinox is as fast as it needs to be.
Average traffic does not accelerate very fast off a green light.
We test drove the V a long time ago; literally could not feel it accelerate off the red light, so I get what you mean.
Totally agree. Kyle has a lead foot and likes to race. 0 to 60 fatigue.
With these reviewers, It's getting to the point to where, if ANY EV won't run an 8 second 1/4 mile, it's dangerously slow, and unusable.
a plug in hybrid like the prius prime would be a good bridge technology. It has around 50hp more and can charge with a 120volt out just fine
Drove by a Chevy dealer the other day and saw it on display at the entrance. It caught my eye and I actually turned my head to look at it. Its a pretty nice looking car. Hopefully it doesnt have the typical "GM Quality". ie, electronics issues, quickly degrading interior materials, etc.
One of the best reviews I’ve seen on this channel - been watching for a few years now.
You and Jordan joking around, plus him replying from behind the camera was awesome.
Great dynamic and great car 👍
My dad just got this in the 2RS trim. Got it over a Y because the lease was cheaper than Tesla. Interior is really nice and a good mix of screen and physical buttons. We have three Tesla’s in the family, so it was time to switch it up.
Another great review. Thank you Kyle & Jordan.
Please do a review on the Volvo US EX30 as soon as possible. I have been on the reserve list practically from its introduction. From everything I see and read it is to good to be true. RWD version.
Heavy for what it is, slow charging so low range, lousy efficency so far across many user reports and anything decently equipped is 40-46k.
We've had our Equinox EV on lease for about 2 weeks so far. A few weird things we're not crazy about, but overall very pleased with it. The CarPlay/AndroidAuto being gone is a bummer, the drive modes don't feel like they do anything, and at highway speeds there is a little vibration in the steering wheel. Not sure if a tire is out of balance or what. But we drove it from 100% down to 15% between the Wednesday we picked it up and that Sunday. Total of 270 miles or so, with an estimated 55 miles remaining. So the range is good, does way better using cruise control everywhere which is something I need to get use to.
Why do you all keep saying Cadillac doesn’t support over the air updates when it clearly says they do on their website??
Picked up my equinox EV recently off an incredible lease deal. Let me tell you my co worker has a base model y awd which we go to everywhere in and i dont miss that tesla at all. This is plenty quick i may even say the 8 second is under rated. Live in the broiler area of california so dont miss the panoramic sunroof. Only thing i wish it had was a sun roof for the few times the weather is nice.
Right now there are 9,219 electric vehicles under $40,000 with maximum of 25,000 miles on them for sale
Thanks for the update.
And your point is?
Currently Bolt EUV owner here. My only complaint is the low pack voltage. I'm frequently charging at 50 kW stations and this car will actually charge slower on those because of the low nominal voltage. Otherwise seems like a very solid car
Tip for automakers; all-black-everything is a BAD color for press loaners! It looks shapeless and murky on camera.
18:53 - I'm pretty sure that knob is just glued to the screen and triggers the touch-screen behind itself when you turn it. That's the way Ford does it.
I hope they make the Malibu as an EV. I know the US market is SUVs, but sedans are still relevant also. I am a fan of the Chevy Malibu.
Chevy killed the Malibu
Went to buy the Equinox EV 2LT RS AWD, drove it and liked it. However, after driving the Blazer 2LT EV AWD, which is oddly and currently similarly priced at this time, and loved it. The Blazer EV was just better sized, better seat controls and comfortable overall ride. At such close prices, I purchased a Blazer EV 2LT AWD, w/ panoramic moon roof and absolutely LOVE IT!
I HIGHLY suggest driving and inspecting both before doing anything.
The Equinox can get up to $50k with a damn manual, plastic hand crank, to lift the passenger's seat. WTH? That was so wild to me for the price.
When the $39k model ACTUALLY becomes available, it'll be a hit, but right now,
I'd highly suggest looking at the Blazer EV if you're going to spend money.
Styling looks great, inside and out.
Much better than Blazer EV jet engine vents
Boring.
@@GET2222 I'm comparing it to Tesla which is the low water mark for styling and build quality.
@@hwirtwirt4500 I own a lot of cars. My model X has better panel gaps than my BMW X5M. My model X has been serviced one time in nearly 9 years of ownership. I have spent nothing on it as it was a front suspension adjustment under warranty. My BMW X5M has had over $3600 in brake work and I can hear a caliper right now and need to bring it in again. It’s exhausting… I’m sick and tired of my BMWs, Mercedes, my A7, Aston Martin and Maserati all having maintenance issues.
What build quality issues are you speaking about? 2018 model 3s? My model X is from 2016 back when Tesla supposedly didn’t know how to make cars and yet every F-ing car I own has thousands of dollars of work done every single year. All I do is drive my Tesla model X and I drive it harder than any of my other cars. My family fights over it. It’s the safest car we own.
I have friends like you who say sh-t and have no idea what they are talking about. Many of them now own a Tesla after driving mine. Their wives and kids love it and so do they, but they don’t like to admit it.
You probably own an old Honda and hate musk. Waaa waaa cry. Tired of you woke POS hurling “build quality” like it’s in every car. It not. I’m living proof and so is sandy munro and other tear down channels. Get lost kid… 😂
@@hwirtwirt4500 styling is personal. There is not a single American car made in the last 30 years that’s worth purchasing from a styling point of view. IMHO…
I have a very contemporary home on a lake with a very minimal aesthetic. I can’t wait to own a Tesla without a dumb steering wheel. People who b-tch about stalks are morons. Everyone one of them.
Chevy Equinox 2LT FWD 43.295,- Model Y RWD 43.930,-
Outside design lies in the eyes of the beholder.
I am only interested in: Frunk? Efficiency? In the US NACS and Tesla Supercharger access? Supercruise/Bluecruise/Autopilot? FSD - when? Range? Dealer Markup? Mandatory maintenance appointments when and how much will they cost? White or at least bright interior? App? Remote control? Dog mode? Camp mode? Other features that set it above the mediocre competition?
When I look at the Model Y RWD online, I see a base price of $44,990 without $1,390 destination. Chevy's $43,295 includes destination, so the Equinox EV is >$3,000 cheaper, and it includes a portable charger. Of course, Tesla's pricing may change tomorrow.
@@ML-jr4ns Model Y in 25003 (just as an example) costs 46630,-- incl. delivery fees. And 46,990 from Fairway Chevrolet GMC. With similar specs.
I do not know whether delivery fees are included. I can not see any mention of them.
I do not know where you live so i can not verify your claims.
GM vehicles will get dealer incentives after a few months on the market too
Looking to get my first ev. Thinking of ford muckie, eqinox, or id4. Your thoughts?
Whatever you get the best deal on, they are all good. I’d get the equinox or the id4 though since they have the tax credit unlike the mach e even though I like the mach e the best
my cadillac lyriq also has the turn signal sync bug. At first it freaked me out but now I've gotten used to it, not sure why it's happening though
Always found this cute, but is the trunk actually bigger than in the Blazer EV? Cuz that one has a surprisingly small trunk.
Technically yes because they wanted more rear seat room in the blazer. With the seats down Blazer is way bigger.
Traded my 22 Bolt for a 24 Equinox ev 2RS. Love it. What a big step up
The pricing argument makes sense for someone who keeps a vehicle for a relatively short time. However, if you tend to keep your vehicles long-term, then the argument is no longer legitimate. If you like what the upper trims offer, the size, and want something different than everyone else (Tesla), then the upper trims could be a logical choice.
Anyone who pays more for one of these than a Y, is a fool lol. Yeah.. i get you might like the exterior look.. and maybe even the more old school button crap.. but to pay MORE for significantly less of everything that is important in a car.. just to look different.. you gotta be a fool. And you can include the Kia and Hyundai EVs in that.. but i don’t think they compete well on the price, until they can qualify for the rebate.
@@airheart1 How are they are fool? A lot of people just don't want a Tesla. Just one example the nearest Tesla service center is well over 2 hours away from me. I have 3 Chevy dealerships in a 25 mile radius. Not everyone needs a car that goes 0-60 in 4 seconds.
@@PowerNGlory you make a valid point on that. But speaking from actual experience.. never been a real problem. Tesla sends a tech to you on the rare occasion you need a little something fixed. EVs just don’t require much work.. hardly ever. Yeah.. it could be an inconvenience if you need some major work done. But to gain all the things you gain out of a really good EV.. not just a Tesla these days.. though they are probably the best bang for the buck, by far still. There are other good EVs.. specifically Kia/Hyundai’s. Though i’m not sure how their prices match up right now. But to pay $45k for an upscale version of this Chevy and pass on Model Y with more of just about everything, for less $.. i get your point that people still have some fear of going with a Tesla for various reasons.. all i can tell you is, as a guy who came from Cadillac and lots of nice German cars.. Tesla trounces them.. hands down.. not even close.. I wouldn’t trade my 7 year old Tesla for any new EV I’ve seen yet.. for various reasons. So from my perspective.. peoples reticence is unwarranted.. and to pay more for something that is significantly less.. i find foolish.
As they said in the video.. i get someone buying the stock version of this Chevy to save $5-10k. That makes sense. But to pay equal or more against a really good EV.. nope. There is no way i understand that.
How often would you need the Tesla service centre? @@PowerNGlory
The point you are missing is that Tesla's look like crap inside in regards to only a tablet like screen with little to nothing else on the dash. The Equinox is more appealing to first time EV buyers because the dashboard resembles a gas vehicle.
was a good report with lots of good info, too bad there was not more on the charger screen, just one glimpse in the beginning, would have liked to see it ramp up...
Bolt owner here. Last thing Im trying to do is go into another 40+ minute 10 - 80% charging vehicle. Also, no carplay, no android auto, no frunk, and front charge port location. All deal breakers for me.
Driving face first into parking spots disrupts every cell in my body😂. I've been backing into parking spots since I was 16 with a learners permit.
Umm, the bolt needs way more than 40 minutes to go 10-80% and to be fair, this will do it in the 36 minute range, practical in use experience on trips this will charge about 3 times faster than the Bolt for equivalent added miles.
@@jfaust2001 Please post the link to that 10-80 time.
I like the built in google map and google assistance so I don't have to depend on my phone. Also built in Spodify and Alexa. Also like the 2 screens as opposed to the Tesla with just one screen. Much nicer screens up higher for better visability
10-80% are all different I think lol I don’t know why they don’t add the miles + time it takes lol
@barterdog I'm holding off for the Boltium. It's confirmed LFP battery tech, with Ultium motor, and perhaps 70kW capacity. LFP generally hold charging curve to 90ish percent. So even if it's only 120kW peak, we should see 0-100 in under 1 hour. So 10-80 should be pretty sweat, sub 30 minutes.
Trick at 17:00 doesn't apparently work on all Ultiums. For Lyriq, tapping the accelerator 3 times doesn't bring the car to life, and the subsequent brake pedal press does not activate always-on mode. For Ultium cars with the power button (like the Lyriq), is there another method?
Mary Bara must be breaking out the high end wine watching Kyle say such good things about this vehicle.
Agree to that.
And where is the "Legacy Auto" haters? And the Tesla crazy fans?
@@stennordenmalm9900
I’m here. I think it’s great. Most Tesla owners used to drive other makes of vehicles before Tesla was a thing, and I’m quite fond of legacy auto makers and have been rooting for them for years to compete with Tesla. It’s also good to see Hyundai pushing Tesla to be better. But I’m impressed with the Equinox and would never discourage anyone from buying one.
@@bluedog9935You don’t sound crazy or like a hater?
lol Barra Is lucky she has a job still. Every thing she’s touched EV wise has been a disaster so far
@@stennordenmalm9900Crazy Tesla fan here too. I’m rooting for ALL EVs, and rooting for all legacy automakers to produce great EV competition. Competition is great for prices and quality, pushing all automakers to strive to do better. This looks like a great SUV - I’m genuinely very happy this is coming out and that it was reviewed so well. It will probably be very popular, moving more people to electric vehicles. And am looking forward to Tesla turning on the Supercharger network for GM, just as they’ve done for Ford and Rivian. All good things.
Very nice that it comes with so many adapters and so well organized, others should take note
I wish reviewers would stop saying the low 300s range is all you need for most people. We need larger range EVs for better charging, climate, and cold weather experiences.
Damn this thing is actually good! Thanks for the video
Nobody does regen better than Tesla and nobody does brake blending better than Porsche. Honestly, I like Tesla's approach, where picking up the foot from the accelerator pedal means braking and brakes pedal is 100% friction brakes.
Same. Totally prefer one pedal driving on tesla as well
Gm does one pedal driving better. If you have not driven GM's one pedal you are missing out.
@@jd467 Which model? I've driven all the current ones and still think pedal throttle mapping feels better and regen feels stronger.
I like having a choice so I can switch back and forth depending on traffic. Don't like one peddle for highway or above 50mph. GM has this option
All the reviewers like it, which is very encouraging, in my opinion.
Solid price, solid value.
Lower tiers only.
.....until you literally shop any other EV and find out the rest are less and have more
@@SirZeusor11 examples please
Any 3 Trims (3LT & 3RS) give you Dual Climate. They do have an interior with light grey accents (e.g., mid part of seats and part of dash). And that "lighter" interior is only available on the 2LT & 3LT Trims. The RS Trims come with all black and black and red interiors. Unfortunately with the LT trims you are stuck with the blue accents regardless of the exterior (e.g., your exterior is Red but the interior accents are blue....I'm not a fan of that choice or lack of choice). They should have gone with a neutral color (grey?) instead of the blue accents.
Does look good
I'm surprised everyone is saying the price is low. 1LT doesn't exist on their website. It starts at the 2LT which is $43,300. 1k more for a MY that has the ability to fully drive you around.
Fisker really set the Design line for electric SUV
What’s a Fisker??
My Bolt EUV has a similar HVAC system when set to Auto. If you turn the heat on high and get it warm and then change it to 70, it cranks the AC to decrease the temp even if it is 20 degrees outside. Oh well, first world problems. I love my Bolt and I will be thinking about trading up to one of these in the next couple of years.
I like the base models most often because they have fewer unnecessary options to break. We have an AWD Ioniq 5 SE, same battery and HP as the high end models but no sunroof/glass roof (someone paid $4000 to have their fixed after it shattered), no power liftgate (there are issues with rattles and noise on them) and longer range and cheaper tires with the 19" wheels vs the 21s on the limited. A few years ago I wanted the Equinox but bought the Ioniq 5 since this kept getting delayed and we still have android auto.
Comment on the 31:50 timestamp: It is true that the Bolt's regen paddle is an on/off switch, and you can't modulate the amount of regen with the paddle. But there is a workaround that not many people know. You can pull the paddle and modulate the amount of regen by using the accelerator peddle. It sounds counterintuitive, but try pulling the regen paddle before letting go of the accelerator pedal. Then slowly letting off the accelerator pedal for a gentler stop. Think of the regen paddle as a one peddle mode switch that will turn off as soon as you let go. It is probably the same for the Equinox EV.
I agree 100% with you, the best move for this car is the base model. Otherwise, buying it for anything above 44k makes no sense when it competing directly with Model Y
Unless you're the sort of buyer who won't buy Elmo's cars no matter the price. There are a lot of us out there.
@@JohnFromArlingtron must be a Democrat crying Elon isn't the Democrats green tree hugging Messiah they wanted him to be, he actually has common sense. Go buy anything else and try to road trip with it, I did, regret it every day i drive it.....the Tesla charging infrastructure is a selling point on its own, and if you think otherwise, rent any other EV and charge at a public charger...I guarantee you will change your mind as you sit there twice as long (if it works) and twice the cost to charge.
Are you still rocking a 2g flip phone too? Because FOR REAL that's what every other car feels like compared to "Elmo's" car and I'm a guy that's swaps cars a lot. I've tried going back to legacy brand cars and I think it will be okay until it just isn't. I find Elmo being my friend again and again because I can't find any legacy brand cars that even come close.
@@scottm.456 Tesla tech nice but styling no. I rather get a Chevy even if it isn't as sporty and GM's tech is getting there fast.
@@scottm.456 how many EV's have you owned?........i have 3 currently......so do you speak from experience, or just out your ass?
You forgot to mention the Chevy Spark! I had that 2015 in 2016, and got the 2017 Bolt in 2019. Equinox gas model was impressive. Looking forward to testing a high spec EVquinox, vs the Rivian R2.
I have a comment regarding the 360 degree view mentioned at the 22:35 mark in the video. I have a 2023 Bolt EUV Premier with the same camera system, and it has been to the dealership 3 times for the system being faulty, and it is STILL not fixed! They have replaced the coax cables, the cameras, and the "VPM" which stands for Video Processing Module. My local dealership who has "EV certified" technicians, for some reason can't fix the problem. They even contacted someone at corporate to try and get help fixing it the last time I brought it in. You don't need this feature to drive the car, but it makes backing up VERY unsafe. I would not buy another Chevrolet electric vehicle, the dealerships don't know how to repair them, you will also wait MONTHS for spare parts to come in when you do have a problem! It took them months to get in one of the parts I needed, and it did not even fix the problem, and I still have a broken 360 degree camera system!!!
It's going to take a while to get weird parts on any vehicle especially a new one. Do you also not have normal mirrors? I know backup cameras are nice and all, but it's not dangerous.
@@matt45540 The visibility out of the back of the vehicle is horrible, so I feel much more safe backing out with the 360 degree camera system fully functional. I actually would not have had a problem with the wait time on the parts if it had actually FIXED the issue, which it did not. I am trying to lemon law the car right now. Never again!
I test drove and enjoyed the ride also. FYI, I am 6’8” tall and I fit in the drivers seat easily.
Charging looks abysmal. Why aren’t they making new car models with the NACS connector?
GM execs continue trying to sabotage their business …
You mean the speed of charging to charger availability?
Waiting for UL safety certificate
I stopped at a Tesla Supercharger in my model 3 at the SC station was only 150kw. And it was plenty fast to add the 50% battery I needed to get home. It was so fast didn’t have time to walk anywhere for lunch without worry about idle charges, so just had to wait like 20minutes. But had time to make a bathroom break.
I don’t think you need to have 250kw.
Why have the Blazer, Bolt and Equinox all at once that’s 3 models going after relatively the same customer base
This makes me optimistic on the driving experience for the Optiq!
I like how GM is naming their EVs after the ICE instead of adding goofy combinations of letters and numbers
I just did a nation-wide search for Equinox EV and the cheapest one in stock is $43,295. Nothing in the low 30s. Not even close. Base Tesla Y is $44,990. Cheapest Mach-E Select is $37,213 (250 mi range)
The air vent looks like something out of the 60's.
Because it is, this is GM's homage to the 60s era Muscle cars. All the vents were circular then.
And I like them on the equinox ev
One thing you didn't mention is that Equinox supports full V2H which makes this likely cheaper to buy than an equivalent home battery... And it also happens to double as an SUV.
I think it is currently proprietary to only GM vehicles at this point, i wouldn't wan't to be locked into GM products if i want to buy another car in the future
@@JD-yx7be yeah, that's kind of a mess. It seems like the best way to do that type of setup currently is to just design the home backup system with an AC input and use V2L vehicles to send AC over to the home system. At least that way it will always work, and be hardware agnostic, even if it has to be a manual process of plugging in a cable when you need it.
As of now a AWD is still north of 45k with less than 300HP and less than 300 miles of range. How is this better than a blazer EV or model Y?
Model Y is better in literally every single way.
He said base
Just configured a base and it's still 44k before dealer mark up. I really want the big 3 to succeed but I just can't justify this over even a base Y which is cheaper with tax cred.
@@JimmyDeanBallisticExcept real-world range, build quality, interior features (gauge cluster) and interior/exterior styling.
It’s not. Not even close
Speed is not a major consideration as a retired couple driving 5000 miles a year. So an EQ LT along with the Volvo EX30 are what we are considering to replace our BMW X3.
What's with the obsession of 0-60? Where do people need to do that? If they do it around pedestrians, that's not good.
picked mine up today its bad ass fassssssssssst
“Ultium is like Mexican food. Same ingredients, but arranged differently.” Looks like Kyle is vying for a role on the Food Network..
I like it and I agree, go base. I am a Bolt owner and I fall into the category of moving to the next step up. Question: Can the base be optioned with AWD?