When someone rejects God like that, He withdraws his salvation, read Romans. "Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done" That was the case with Satan, Imagine having God in front of you and wanting to detrone and destroy him, How evil do you have to be?
I won't say i know for certain anything I will say the story of Jonah shows a man who did not obey God's will and despite the phrophicy of the city being destroyed was able to change peoples ways and God's prophicy. I know satan has a supernatural hate for us but I will never say I hate him or anyone.
Neal, you are such an awesome actor. Your portrayal of the devil is one of the more convincing ones I've seen. I look forward to seeing you in future movies =-)
I was just feeling bad about choosing to handle things Gods way… this actually reminded me in the long run I’ll realize it was right. It is a marathon…. Not a race.🐢
He never had any intention of repenting, and God knew this or He would have done something to help. Considering Lucifer is an immortal spirit he has to go to hell because "the wages of sin is death." This is why God forced man out of the garden, so that while their body would die their spirit would still have the chance to repent.
My daughter and I just watched the clip from the shift where the man starts praying and Satan flips out… And we got into the discussion about how can Satan continue doing what he’s doing being 100% sure that he is going to lose. It boggles any sense of logic.
Since angels’ will aren’t like ours they are unable to change their minds once they have made a decision. Satan may regret the result of his decision to rebel against God but he continues to rebel and would never go back even if it were possible.
In the third century, Origen of Alexandria formulated a teaching he termed apokatastasis(restoration). According to this doctrine, all sinners-and indeed all of the fallen angels, including Satan himself-would be, through Christ’s grace, brought to salvation in the end. There might be hellfire, Origen thought, but it cannot be everlasting, for if it were, sin would prove more powerful than grace. Well, the official church reacted against Origen’s universalism, for she saw it as insufficiently respectful of freedom, both human and angelic. If God’s grace is simply irresistible, then the real freedom to reject God’s love appears compromised
Nice summary of some of Origen’s thinking. I really like Origen. Despite the Church’s eventual criticism and rejection of his ideas, they are both rational and internally consistent and were very widely accepted and admired for several centuries.
Maybe Lucifer may be so full of pride that he would never change. I’ve had imaginations that it be so amazing on how to change is mind and help him feel regret. Of all the angels that he took with him sometimes I feel like it was out of pure ignorances and they probably regret it to see if some by miracle chance that they could be redeemed and go home.
The reason we are here ….. When God created us ( mankind ) He already knew we would fall . His plan was designed for us to fall . His plan was to give each generation a chance to love Him first . Because of free will we have traveled thousands of generations passing on of knowledge of who He is . As each generation goes by God knows the relationship He has with mankind would become stronger but He also knows when He is ready to collect us to Himself the children He created will love Him and make Him their FIRST love . He knows we will only want to be His . All mankind come from Gods first creation and back we will go to the garden of Eden to live with our Creator. If you look at His plan it was perfect!! God is great and gave us a way back to perfection. The thousands of years it took is nothing compare to forever. Great things take time and God is patient. Soon His plan will be reality and we will understand how perfect the plan was . Full Circle ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I never thought about Lucifer repenting… could he truly be forgiven when blasphemy is the highest sin… But then if he is forgiven what would the world become?..would we all just snap back into Eden because evil would disappear, or is there a 2nd in command?.…. My overthinking is kicking in 😅
Beside Lucifer, Second in commands are Lilith (Queen of Hell), Asmodeus ( King of Hell), Beelzebub, Satan, Belphegor, Mammon, Leviathan, Belial, Abaddon.
The devil rejected the holy ghost he's blasphemous towards him so it is too late for em. We ate fighting for our brothers and sisters not for pure evil to turn good complete darkness has no light 💔 but we are God's children that's why it's possible for us to enter his kingdom through his salvation ❤ Luke 10.18 James 4.7 "John 3.16 "
JESUS loves you unconditionally.HE died on the cross and took upon HIMSELF the punishment that you deserved!HE loves you and wants a personal relationship with HIM.Give your life to HIM and accept HIM as your LORD and SAVIOR.Commit and surrender yourself to HIM and walk with HIM.HE is the only solution.JESUS LOVES YOU 💗✝️
Lucifer can never be forgiven and allowed back in heaven. It says it in revelation that he will be defeated during battle of armageddon and will be bound for a thousand years. Then after that he will be defeated once again and casted in a lake of sulfur for eternity.
This actor does super as Satan incarnate. But, Satan will never be able to be redeemed. The Holy Bible is clear that Satan will suffer through torments for Eternity in the Lake of Fire.
In the third century, Origen of Alexandria formulated a teaching he termed apokatastasis(restoration). According to this doctrine, all sinners-and indeed all of the fallen angels, including Satan himself-would be, through Christ’s grace, brought to salvation in the end. There might be hellfire, Origen thought, but it cannot be everlasting, for if it were, sin would prove more powerful than grace. Well, the official church reacted against Origen’s universalism, for she saw it as insufficiently respectful of freedom, both human and angelic. If God’s grace is simply irresistible, then the real freedom to reject God’s love appears compromised
@@heatherhawkins7566God can't forgive Satan because when Satan rebelled it was In a time where time never existed, and Satan who used to he the musician lucifer morningstar has incomprehensible HATRED for every1 and thing. . .
So glad to hear him talk like this. It's awesome. Praise God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
AMEN!!!!💗✝️May GOD bless you!!
Neal did an amazing job in this role. The movie was extremely well done and thought-provoking. We loved it.
Lucifer is never coming back. Revelation reveals this to us that he will be locked up forever.
Revelation is the prophecy of the end times. Lucifer isn't locked up now
Yeah, I was thinking the same. I appreciate his heart for our adversary, but it’s just unbiblical, unfortunately.
When someone rejects God like that, He withdraws his salvation, read Romans.
"Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done" That was the case with Satan, Imagine having God in front of you and wanting to detrone and destroy him, How evil do you have to be?
I won't say i know for certain anything I will say the story of Jonah shows a man who did not obey God's will and despite the phrophicy of the city being destroyed was able to change peoples ways and God's prophicy.
I know satan has a supernatural hate for us but I will never say I hate him or anyone.
"Bless those who curse you and pray for those who abuse you".
That scripture is referring to human beings, not demons or Satan. Satan has no redeemer.
Awesome actor. Huge respect for him with the way he respects his wife.
GOD bless you Neal.
Now that’s a perspective I could get behind…
Love the way Neal portrayed The Benefactor. So glad movies like The Shift exist.
Gotta love his acting skills always playing the villain flawless ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
I love Neal and how he defends his faith ! we are all behind you my brother. ✝️🙏❤️🇺🇸
Huge fan Neal!
Same. I loved him in Suits
The Movie is called THE SHIFT and it was really really good!
Thank goodness 🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼
Neal, you are such an awesome actor. Your portrayal of the devil is one of the more convincing ones I've seen. I look forward to seeing you in future movies =-)
We need GOD more than we know. Even satin
This is deep. I never thought of that ever.
I was just feeling bad about choosing to handle things Gods way… this actually reminded me in the long run I’ll realize it was right. It is a marathon…. Not a race.🐢
He would be my inspiration to walk closer to God and his Son Jesus Christ 🥺🙏🏻☦️❤️
Well you will be shocked to learn they are both the same being.
🙏🙏🙏🙏 Ameen
So nice to hear your a Man omg God.
Blessings to you 😊
I have seen the movie.. it was good and I read scripture “JOB” one more time.
Thank you GOD ❤
God bless you bro love from India I am so proud of you❤️🙋🏻♀️😍🥰
Say what you want. But dude plays a fantastic bad guy. Props to him
Amen ♥️🙏
Love your movies Sir
I love the sarcasm at the end
You know what? McDonough’s right 🔥🔥🔥
I am an out and proud atheist but you are a fine actor and am looking forward to watching this🎉
You may not believe in God, but I bet he believes in you.❤
God bless you Neal and keep you safe Amen.
You are a Great actor Neal McDonough
Love this! God is Great!
This guy is just great 😊
God bless that man
Well said, I'm with that💪
Watched the trailer.very good.where can i watch the full movie.
God’s peace be with you !
❤❤❤❤
He never had any intention of repenting, and God knew this or He would have done something to help. Considering Lucifer is an immortal spirit he has to go to hell because "the wages of sin is death." This is why God forced man out of the garden, so that while their body would die their spirit would still have the chance to repent.
My daughter and I just watched the clip from the shift where the man starts praying and Satan flips out… And we got into the discussion about how can Satan continue doing what he’s doing being 100% sure that he is going to lose. It boggles any sense of logic.
Since angels’ will aren’t like ours they are unable to change their minds once they have made a decision. Satan may regret the result of his decision to rebel against God but he continues to rebel and would never go back even if it were possible.
he creeped me out in that movie 😅
In the third century, Origen of Alexandria formulated a teaching he termed apokatastasis(restoration). According to this doctrine, all sinners-and indeed all of the fallen angels, including Satan himself-would be, through Christ’s grace, brought to salvation in the end. There might be hellfire, Origen thought, but it cannot be everlasting, for if it were, sin would prove more powerful than grace. Well, the official church reacted against Origen’s universalism, for she saw it as insufficiently respectful of freedom, both human and angelic. If God’s grace is simply irresistible, then the real freedom to reject God’s love appears compromised
Nice summary of some of Origen’s thinking. I really like Origen. Despite the Church’s eventual criticism and rejection of his ideas, they are both rational and internally consistent and were very widely accepted and admired for several centuries.
Maybe Lucifer may be so full of pride that he would never change. I’ve had imaginations that it be so amazing on how to change is mind and help him feel regret. Of all the angels that he took with him sometimes I feel like it was out of pure ignorances and they probably regret it to see if some by miracle chance that they could be redeemed and go home.
The reason we are here ….. When God created us ( mankind ) He already knew we would fall . His plan was designed for us to fall . His plan was to give each generation a chance to love Him first . Because of free will we have traveled thousands of generations passing on of knowledge of who He is . As each generation goes by God knows the relationship He has with mankind would become stronger but He also knows when He is ready to collect us to Himself the children He created will love Him and make Him their FIRST love . He knows we will only want to be His . All mankind come from Gods first creation and back we will go to the garden of Eden to live with our Creator. If you look at His plan it was perfect!! God is great and gave us a way back to perfection. The thousands of years it took is nothing compare to forever. Great things take time and God is patient. Soon His plan will be reality and we will understand how perfect the plan was . Full Circle ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I never thought about Lucifer repenting… could he truly be forgiven when blasphemy is the highest sin… But then if he is forgiven what would the world become?..would we all just snap back into Eden because evil would disappear, or is there a 2nd in command?.…. My overthinking is kicking in 😅
Never thought about Lucifer repenting either. The part you mentioned never thought about as well. I'm gonna discuss this at group.
Beside Lucifer, Second in commands are Lilith (Queen of Hell), Asmodeus ( King of Hell), Beelzebub, Satan, Belphegor, Mammon, Leviathan, Belial, Abaddon.
How do you watch The Shift withoul having to pay the Angel site?
God will never forgot lucifer
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amen
🙌🏽
Hey it’s Witt Bass
The devil rejected the holy ghost he's blasphemous towards him so it is too late for em. We ate fighting for our brothers and sisters not for pure evil to turn good complete darkness has no light 💔 but we are God's children that's why it's possible for us to enter his kingdom through his salvation ❤
Luke 10.18
James 4.7
"John 3.16 "
Neal McDonough, you play a really good bad guy and you are Hot 🔥❤😂
Satan got kicked out of Heaven for a reason and he is never going to change!
🙏🏼❤️💐🕊️🕊️
JESUS loves you unconditionally.HE died on the cross and took upon HIMSELF the punishment that you deserved!HE loves you and wants a personal relationship with HIM.Give your life to HIM and accept HIM as your LORD and SAVIOR.Commit and surrender yourself to HIM and walk with HIM.HE is the only solution.JESUS LOVES YOU 💗✝️
Where can I get the movie please
Except, we all know how this ends. He never gives in to God and thus is thrown to the pit. Burned from existence.
Why would anyone want to play lucifer 🤦♂️. He's a defeated foe.
He’s a scientist not a devil
Lucifer can never be forgiven and allowed back in heaven. It says it in revelation that he will be defeated during battle of armageddon and will be bound for a thousand years. Then after that he will be defeated once again and casted in a lake of sulfur for eternity.
The devil is gods enemy and will never care god nor does the devil have good feelings..the devil has his place in the lake of fire
unfortunately He Wont But We Can Thanks God 🙏
Love this guy but Satan will be destroyed
I believe that Satan is the "true" Prodigal Son of God. I look forward to seeing your film.
No redemption for satan
After all the evil things Satan has made people do since the beginning? Satan made his bed.
This actor does super as Satan incarnate. But, Satan will never be able to be redeemed. The Holy Bible is clear that Satan will suffer through torments for Eternity in the Lake of Fire.
Satan cannot repent because he did that rebellion 100% willfully and in a place with no time, I do feel bad for him but it was his choice.
Nothing is impossible for God... I don't think it will happen. But its not impossible..
In the third century, Origen of Alexandria formulated a teaching he termed apokatastasis(restoration). According to this doctrine, all sinners-and indeed all of the fallen angels, including Satan himself-would be, through Christ’s grace, brought to salvation in the end. There might be hellfire, Origen thought, but it cannot be everlasting, for if it were, sin would prove more powerful than grace. Well, the official church reacted against Origen’s universalism, for she saw it as insufficiently respectful of freedom, both human and angelic. If God’s grace is simply irresistible, then the real freedom to reject God’s love appears compromised
@@heatherhawkins7566God can't forgive Satan because when Satan rebelled it was In a time where time never existed, and Satan who used to he the musician lucifer morningstar has incomprehensible HATRED for every1 and thing. . .
Sounds like Trump
Satan is and always will be the loser