In 2024 there’s no excuse to not have familial DNA done and to have this done. Period. I also think the killer has a son. Possibly close to the same age as the son in the second abduction. That’s why they lived. NEVER STAY IN A VEHICLE. GET OUT. RUN. NO MATTER WHAT YOU GET OUT AT ALL COSTS. IF YOU CAN GET THE DOOR OPEN YOU GET OUT. GRAB THE WHEEL. NO MATTER WHAT WEAPONS THEY HAVE.
It's easier said than done... 😢 I'm speaking from first hand experience! 👈🏼🤦🏼♂️ It's seriously difficult to think straight when ur under this type of stress trust me!! 💔😮💨 It's like ur brain 🧠goes blank... 🫢👀
Does your wisdom come from all the times you've been a woman with a young child and this has happened to you? So sick.of these self congratulatory "tips" Absolutely nobody knows until they are in that situation.
@@acooper7675 "The Missing Piece" in the title implies that any process of unraveling has been completed--in other words, unraveled. For what other reason would they title this as "the missing piece" --since all pieces are needed to complete a puzzle--except to imply that a resolution was at hand?? This video's title is clickbait in all its splendor.
Thanks! I'd already decided not to watch the rest when not even 10 minutes in they're repeating the same material for the 3rd time! The victims deserve better than this!
That and 2 of the victims were female with (typically) male names. We don't know about Jane Doe's name, so it could be mere coincidence. Just an interesting detail.
I saw a guy get arrested for a cold case. He was retired and living a carefree life and then... boom. Prison. There can still be justice. Even if the perpetrator is dead, his name will be associated until the end of time with savagery, perversion, and disgust.
They have to be careful to choose the most likely to be useful tests as every test uses up DNA. That was mentioned in the video. The typical DNA testing done by law enforcement labs is not the same process as what the genealogical databases use.
Not everyone is a subscriber.. Not everyone has the same last name. Tbat tales time and money, it might be in State Budget. If Ted Bundy and John Wayna Gary's unclaimed victims are being identified (i imagine there is a way its done.) Its expensive and man power. ....but eventually, theyll pull and solve every last one. Eventually.
The big SUVs. A lonely woman killed and another one with a daughter killed. A woman with a son let free. The perpetrator has a deep hatred against women but only against those who represent wealthy women (an SUV being a symbol of success and being well-off); he was able to be better related emotionally to the Jane Doe with a son, so probably he had a loving relationship with his own mother, who in turn probably had a lower income. Jane Doe and her son were spared because the perpetrator did not want to break the loving bond between them. In his eyes, the boy reminded of himself.
@@willowJ-nb3iySounds like excuses. Like yall usually do when it comes to white criminals. You make them sound relatable, or wayward, or vulnerable. They are still humans in your eyes, even though they commit violent crimes. 🙄Disgusting.
Just a hint my mom taught me. If you park and come out and there is a van or large vehicle that was not there when you pulled in, be very careful. If you are not sure, ask a sec. guard or someone (male) to walk out with you. It is better to be wrong than dead or hurt.
What a weird episode! Good stories, good families….but nothing else! Unprofessionally put-together and repetitions. RIP for the victims and their families. 🙏
So how come that Jane doe an her son were the only ones he didn't kill? Is it maybe the killer also had a son a similar age to Jane doe's son an felt some sympathy towards the child ? The other two kids were female so maybe didn't relate to them like he did to the male toddler. Who knows just a thought.
Terrifying. I used to work at that Pottery Barn at the mall and live across the street back then. Truly hope the victims and their families get justice.
It shouldn't matter how much they cost the state pays out millions after millions on lost lawsuits for cops not doing their jobs right and violating people's rights but they want to cry over 5,000 dollars? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me
Definitely! There was a young woman murdered on a trail in Maryland! And the suspect has never been found! Her name was Rachel Morin! She had 5 children. 😢😢
i was in delray beach walking to my job at pet supply plus, and a van pulled over at a red light swung open the back door (2 people in the van) Telling me to hop in if i want to make alot of money.. pleading with me to hop in that van. freaky stuff. thats before i had my big bushy beard so i was baby faced skater boy in good shape. i didnt think much of it at first and just walked away. it wasnt until a couple years later when i started studying true crime when it dawned on me i could have really been a victim if i didnt just keep walking
@@kimwhatmatters4085 it makes me feel better knowing that probably stops alot of people from doing very heinous things.. but i do agree its an invasion of privacy.. thats why it pays to be a child of God trying to do Gods will.
Unfortunately, somebody out there knowing something isn’t always the case, especially with serial killers. They’re almost never caught because someone came forward who knew or suspected, unless a pretty accurate composite was recognized. Bundy, Gacy, Rader, D’Angelo, Ridgway, Ramirez never told a soul or even hinted at what they were doing. With the exception of Ridgway, none of them even had any friends, and only Bundy was reported because of a sketch. I pray that one day this monster is caught and hopefully while the victims’ family members are still alive so they can see justice served.
@@Dion-rz3fz I’m not talking about acquaintances,,how many people he knew. They were a cover for his nefarious activities, so good ol John wouldn’t be suspected and people would be in disbelief were he to be accused. The dude didn’t have any buddies he hung out with.
@@gabe_2544 Defining the word "friend" is rather difficult. Most people seem to call good acquaintances, "friends," yet there usually not, there just good acquaintances. Just when does a "good acquaintance" change into being a "friend?" I agree you may be right regarding Gacy, but I am asking this as a general question. Maybe you have someone you bowl with, and you have fun doing that, but is that bowling buddy a "friend," when all you ever do is bowl? See what I mean? Most men associate around activities. Drinking, bowling, golf, fishing, etc..etc... But if it does not extend beyond that, is that really a friend?
So many questions for investigators to answer on this one. It could be someone who has continued committing crimes, maybe in another state, and maybe even with a different M.O. The detail about Jane Doe's account being low on funds but she was surprised that the $200 withdrawal went through (and then again twice more) is interesting. What was that about? And if the perpetrator is the same in all 3 cases, why did he kill the 1st victim, let the 2nd and her child live, and then kill the 3rd and her child? Does the 2nd child being a boy have any relevance? And 2 different victims were female with boys' names. It'd be interesting to know if Jane Doe had a male name or if that's all just a coincidence.
@@outlawJosieFox they said she didn't have a debit card so he would've already been frustrated, and then I think they said she tried to jump out of the car when he shot her (1st lady). Hard to say with the 3rd victim and her little girl what happened there.
I know someone who drew 200$ from an empty acct. but the bank came looking for them and they had to pay it back. I don't know why ATM's will allow that but it dose happen.
Great question, Jane Doe is gold though. They spent a long time together, she would know if it was him. Especially his nasaly voice. I also think they said no DNA match and Keyes must be in every database by now.
How can there be so many unsolved murders in one community? The police department must've bungled all these cases. Maybe look into all security employees at the time. Look at all interviewed persons of interest again.
I remember hearing about this story on _America's Most Wanted_ and it scared the living hell out of me. I can't even imagine the terror the victims felt. My heart goes out to their families.
Just watched a crime get solved by opening up a facebook page dedicated to it. i know alot of drama comes out that but crazy how things start to surface as a result.
These cases demonstrate why situational awareness is the most important tool you can have. If something doesn't look right stop what your doing and find the security office or call 911 Also it has been said it always starts in the parking lot, that is why security needs to be proactive in the parking lots.
The caught the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker after decades, they should use the same methods to catch this murderer, if the DNA belongs to him. They have Keyes's DNA, so if it was him, they would already have announced it because it would be high profile.
I WAS really interested in this story...however, this story is like it is on a loop. They say the very same things over and over and over again. The same video bytes are played repeatedly. Whoever made this video should be aware they made me hate this video! I am sorry for all of these people involved, but I cannot take one more second of listening to this. I barely made it to 21:53, I have to give up. So IF...there was ANYTHING IMPORTANT that you said after the 21:53 marker it was lost due to horrible editing, leaving in what seemed like at least ONE HUNDRED repeated statements.
I was a barista at Teavana at Town Center when this happened.... we walked to our cars in groups for a while. About 6 months later a couple guys were pulled over for being suspicious. They had guns and clown masks chillin in their trunk. It fel surreal.
Ok guys...look at the hat. The guy obviously works outside. You don't buy a new hat to rob people. He's young with short hair. You should have looked at landscapers who worked outside at the mall. Where are your investigative skills for Pete's sake?!?!?!
Probably the most logical comment on the thread. He would know if any security changes were made. Down side to the theory is another worker would see that sketch and say "Hey that looks/looked like Ricardo."
I know they have already thought of this but what about someone that worked for Simon as a maintenance person or janitorial staff. The way the guy knew about the blind spots seems odd. Or what about a member of security themselves?
High-end shopping mall with lax security are you kidding me? Took a guard 8 hours to find an idling car in the mall parking lot with the bodies of mother and child? Ridiculous ! 🤢
The killer banked at Bank of America. The vehicle he used probably wasn't his. He targeted distracted beautiful women. He lived in the Fort Lauderdale area at the time.
I believe the SK is a Hispanic male (the sketch description and the area), average height (the reason why he is using a gun) he physically can't control a female. He was going thru a divorce and turned into hate towards females, now he is married with a family or in church like the BTK. He is still in the area.
If money was not the primary motive and they were not sexually assaulted, do the police have any possible motive other than a "control" issue. A it extreme just to exact control over someone.
I felt like it was a hit🤔I remember this like yesterday. At the time I strongly felt like they was running from someone. I think this happened around the same time as that deadly shooting at the Boynton Mall. I have faith that Pbso will solve this case🙏🏾
There’s no doubt the killer has continued killing, but in a more low profile way. He’s out there doing his thing and not every murder ends up on the news.. It’s a shame how some family members get stuck in the past I mean it is so traumatizing it’s scars the mind and heart. It’s like a recording that keeps playing over and over again. The last thing they think about I’m going to bed is the first thing they think about when they wake up
I feel like he allowed the second mother and child to live because the child was a boy. He may have had a son of similar age at the time and he reminded him of his own son.
Has law enforcement done any ballistics on any bullets or casings, I'm sure the ME knows what kind of firearm was used to murder the first victim. Where was the security gaurd at and why did it take him over 8 hrs before the 3rd victims were found inside of an idling car??
They would have had trace DNA from the first mall dry run when perp kidnapped a woman and child in the mall then hours later released them - but Boca police bungled that, didn't believe the woman and arrested her = not collecting valuable DNA at the crime scene !!
This is horrifying, im not shocked by much but this is truly the stuff of nightmares! I cant even try to imagine the terror the poor Mother & child must have suffered, both for each other as well as for themselves, & then this Demon actually killed them after putting them through such an ordeal & getting what he asked for. I feel this vicious killer knew his wealthy hunting ground & that he moved on. He either had a temporary problem & his family took control of it or was sent away. Id look at rehab & mental health facilities for admissions around that time.
The person or persons had to know a bit about banking and being able to withdraw money from a credit card at certain times. Then choosing the most vulnerable, mothers with small children.
It doesn't seem like the local police dept is not really in that big of a hurry for solving these cases. Lastly, not one individual in these interviews gave the public, and us the viewers, anything other than a 17 yr old sketch of a white male with sunglasses on with a safari looking hat on. There are alot of shady characters, that are both directly and also indirectly placing suspicion especially with alot of unanswered questions involving people who should have had the training needed to spot an individual who looks out of place especially when it all abruptly ends with 2 women, and a 10 yr old girl are dead, all the while a woman and her infant/toddler son are left in the parking lot alive and unscathed. Pretty ironic.
The common denominator is the mall. Simon Realty. Could it be with a vendetta against the property owner. Just a guess. All were women, who else shops at the mall. The theory that the man has a child the same age as Jane Does’s son, spot on. So, a young man with a son with an issue with Simon Realty. Worth a look!
So pointless, didn't even get to who was responsible. All I understood was that this was a coward number 1, only going after little kids and their moms. Pathetic
I'm a big 48hours, medical detectives and all that genre fan, I've watched your show for the first time. I'm sorry to say it straight away, but this episode started good but turned bad very fast. 70% of the video is just sounds, sirens and flashing images and silence. Every 5min a flashbacks from 5min ago, informations about the killer and the victims, i mean in that situations, are more or less non existent. I hope it is just this episode, because I love crime shows 😅
There's another show that does this only worse. Have you ever watched "I Survived". Its format is the worst!...three intermittent stories going on in the same half hour with repeated flashbacks. But the worst part is the absence of a narrator at critical points where you have to have your eyeballs peeled to the screen at all times to read the captions or else you'll miss a crucial detail. I love CourtTV but I've boycotted that show.
@@dayinthelifeofmycat that's sounds awful. It's way to hard to find a good, professional show without sensation journalism and straight information/presentation 😁 Edit i have to check I survived now 😭
The world isn't messed up ,it's the people who are in it that's messed up .
In 2024 there’s no excuse to not have familial DNA done and to have this done. Period. I also think the killer has a son. Possibly close to the same age as the son in the second abduction. That’s why they lived.
NEVER STAY IN A VEHICLE. GET OUT. RUN. NO MATTER WHAT YOU GET OUT AT ALL COSTS. IF YOU CAN GET THE DOOR OPEN YOU GET OUT. GRAB THE WHEEL. NO MATTER WHAT WEAPONS THEY HAVE.
And that's exactly why he picked women with young kids. He knows she is following that child. It would be difficult not to do that.
Leave my child behind? Never.
It's easier said than done... 😢 I'm speaking from first hand experience! 👈🏼🤦🏼♂️ It's seriously difficult to think straight when ur under this type of stress trust me!! 💔😮💨 It's like ur brain 🧠goes blank... 🫢👀
Does your wisdom come from all the times you've been a woman with a young child and this has happened to you? So sick.of these self congratulatory "tips" Absolutely nobody knows until they are in that situation.
I couldn’t fathom any mother taking off and running leaving their child behind with a kidnapper.
This does not "unravel" the mystery! The title is misleading
To be fair the title only describes the process of unraveling, not that the mystery has been completely unraveled.
@@acooper7675I thought they had ! Won’t watch anymore .
@@acooper7675 "The Missing Piece" in the title implies that any process of unraveling has been completed--in other words, unraveled. For what other reason would they title this as "the missing piece" --since all pieces are needed to complete a puzzle--except to imply that a resolution was at hand?? This video's title is clickbait in all its splendor.
Thanks! I'd already decided not to watch the rest when not even 10 minutes in they're repeating the same material for the 3rd time! The victims deserve better than this!
How was it not addressed that the perpetrator chose 3 women who drove similar black SUV's?
That and 2 of the victims were female with (typically) male names. We don't know about Jane Doe's name, so it could be mere coincidence. Just an interesting detail.
Randy' SUV was white.
probably did because they possibly had tinted windows which made them inconspicuous
I saw a guy get arrested for a cold case. He was retired and living a carefree life and then... boom. Prison. There can still be justice. Even if the perpetrator is dead, his name will be associated until the end of time with savagery, perversion, and disgust.
I believe the killer felt at ' home' at the mall, an ex-employee maybe?
Excellent! Security guards have a higher rate of being a criminal than the general population.
I totally agree!!
Can you imagine being a police officer having to see a dead child that was murdered? They have a very rough job
Serves the pee-aigs right dem keel-Elle’s my entire family dem was members KKK in Louisiana
This is so sad…
If they “have so much DNA” why don’t they reach out to the new DNA forensics by cross matching the relatives of the suspect?
yeah, how do they have dna and an eyewitness yet no suspect?
They have to be careful to choose the most likely to be useful tests as every test uses up DNA. That was mentioned in the video. The typical DNA testing done by law enforcement labs is not the same process as what the genealogical databases use.
@@joyfuljaj But they could do PCR to duplicate the sample... I'd love to see them do forensic genetic genealogy as well as forensic testing
@@joyfuljaj They said they have "lots" of his DNA.
Not everyone is a subscriber.. Not everyone has the same last name. Tbat tales time and money, it might be in State Budget. If Ted Bundy and John Wayna Gary's unclaimed victims are being identified (i imagine there is a way its done.) Its expensive and man power. ....but eventually, theyll pull and solve every last one. Eventually.
The big SUVs. A lonely woman killed and another one with a daughter killed. A woman with a son let free. The perpetrator has a deep hatred against women but only against those who represent wealthy women (an SUV being a symbol of success and being well-off); he was able to be better related emotionally to the Jane Doe with a son, so probably he had a loving relationship with his own mother, who in turn probably had a lower income. Jane Doe and her son were spared because the perpetrator did not want to break the loving bond between them. In his eyes, the boy reminded of himself.
I don't think this guy has a good relationship with his mother. I think he maybe has a son Jane Doe's age.
Sounds so weird or whatever 😮
@@willowJ-nb3iySounds like excuses. Like yall usually do when it comes to white criminals. You make them sound relatable, or wayward, or vulnerable.
They are still humans in your eyes, even though they commit violent crimes.
🙄Disgusting.
Just a hint my mom taught me. If you park and come out and there is a van or large vehicle that was not there when you pulled in, be very careful. If you are not sure, ask a sec. guard or someone (male) to walk out with you. It is better to be wrong than dead or hurt.
Your mom is very smart. Great advice
Maybe the person who done these crimes could have either died, moved away or could be in prison for another crime they committed
He killed the person he wanted dead.Other two victims.were to give impression of random hits.
@@trishaprett7721That's a reach imo🤔
I believe if they're incarcerated, then their DNA is on record somewhere.
Israel Keyes
If he is in prison it is likely he had to submit to a DNA test......
LEO needs to send all DNA to Parabon labs for their Snapshot. Release the images to the public.
What a weird episode! Good stories, good families….but nothing else! Unprofessionally put-together and repetitions. RIP for the victims and their families. 🙏
It rips my heart out to see the pain in her mom’s face . As a mother who has lost children , I know her pain 😢❤
omg, my condolences to you, i cant even begin to think how this would hurt forever.....all the best please
@@arfshesaid4325 thank you so much
I was just thinking about this case the other day 😢
Really!? Wow! That's unbelievable!
me too. it’s disturbing 😅
So how come that Jane doe an her son were the only ones he didn't kill? Is it maybe the killer also had a son a similar age to Jane doe's son an felt some sympathy towards the child ? The other two kids were female so maybe didn't relate to them like he did to the male toddler. Who knows just a thought.
The two-year old was too young to be a threat to identity him. I wonder if he covered his face somehow or used a mask.
Terrifying. I used to work at that Pottery Barn at the mall and live across the street back then. Truly hope the victims and their families get justice.
They should make a government LAB for DNA tests so they are cheaper and faster. The private labs charge ~$5000 or more for a DNA test.
Govt would probably "charge" 10k lol
Nah lol
It shouldn't matter how much they cost the state pays out millions after millions on lost lawsuits for cops not doing their jobs right and violating people's rights but they want to cry over 5,000 dollars? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me
Everything the gov. gets involved in it inevitably screws it up.......
apartment complexes, parking lots and nature/jogging trails are the most dangerous places for women so plan ahead.
Definitely! There was a young woman murdered on a trail in Maryland! And the suspect has never been found! Her name was Rachel Morin! She had 5 children. 😢😢
i was in delray beach walking to my job at pet supply plus, and a van pulled over at a red light swung open the back door (2 people in the van) Telling me to hop in if i want to make alot of money.. pleading with me to hop in that van. freaky stuff. thats before i had my big bushy beard so i was baby faced skater boy in good shape. i didnt think much of it at first and just walked away. it wasnt until a couple years later when i started studying true crime when it dawned on me i could have really been a victim if i didnt just keep walking
They have DNA? So many cases being solved using Ancestry now. Surely they know about this great tool.
genetic genealogy
yeah or parabon
What’s crazy is those sites promised it would never be used for that such and invasion of privacy
@@kimwhatmatters4085 it makes me feel better knowing that probably stops alot of people from doing very heinous things.. but i do agree its an invasion of privacy.. thats why it pays to be a child of God trying to do Gods will.
Mixed DNA? Is there any DNA salvageable after all this time?
Exactly, Genealogy is likely the only way to solve this now, if indeed they have DNA.
Unfortunately, somebody out there knowing something isn’t always the case, especially with serial killers. They’re almost never caught because someone came forward who knew or suspected, unless a pretty accurate composite was recognized. Bundy, Gacy, Rader, D’Angelo, Ridgway, Ramirez never told a soul or even hinted at what they were doing. With the exception of Ridgway, none of them even had any friends, and only Bundy was reported because of a sketch. I pray that one day this monster is caught and hopefully while the victims’ family members are still alive so they can see justice served.
Gacy had friends. He was big in the Jaycees, and he threw parties.
@@Dion-rz3fz I’m not talking about acquaintances,,how many people he knew. They were a cover for his nefarious activities, so good ol John wouldn’t be suspected and people would be in disbelief were he to be accused. The dude didn’t have any buddies he hung out with.
@@gabe_2544 Defining the word "friend" is rather difficult. Most people seem to call good acquaintances, "friends," yet there usually not, there just good acquaintances. Just when does a "good acquaintance" change into being a "friend?" I agree you may be right regarding Gacy, but I am asking this as a general question. Maybe you have someone you bowl with, and you have fun doing that, but is that bowling buddy a "friend," when all you ever do is bowl? See what I mean? Most men associate around activities. Drinking, bowling, golf, fishing, etc..etc... But if it does not extend beyond that, is that really a friend?
The title was misleading to me. I inferred from the title that the mystery was going to be “unraveled” in this video. Not so.
So many questions for investigators to answer on this one. It could be someone who has continued committing crimes, maybe in another state, and maybe even with a different M.O.
The detail about Jane Doe's account being low on funds but she was surprised that the $200 withdrawal went through (and then again twice more) is interesting. What was that about?
And if the perpetrator is the same in all 3 cases, why did he kill the 1st victim, let the 2nd and her child live, and then kill the 3rd and her child? Does the 2nd child being a boy have any relevance? And 2 different victims were female with boys' names. It'd be interesting to know if Jane Doe had a male name or if that's all just a coincidence.
Maybe the lady did not cooperate? Maybe she tried to fight him ?
I thought that was interesting about the bank withdrawal. Like he had some connection to the bank?
@@marge9563 that was my thought as well. Maybe I'm just not understanding what happened, but it was weird.
@@outlawJosieFox they said she didn't have a debit card so he would've already been frustrated, and then I think they said she tried to jump out of the car when he shot her (1st lady). Hard to say with the 3rd victim and her little girl what happened there.
I know someone who drew 200$ from an empty acct. but the bank came looking for them and they had to pay it back. I don't know why ATM's will allow that but it dose happen.
This is so bloody disgusting and that is putting it mildly.
Some people have no right to live in society.
The FBI needs a cold case team to protect the public.
OMG that poor mother 😢 this was hard to watch and go through again.
Are the bullets the same for both shootings?
Excellent question. I don't think the report covered ballistics.
Just curious did the police look into serial killer Israel Keyes, the police sketch kinda looks like him
If I remember correctly, even M. William Phelps suggested Keyes as a possible suspect.
If I remember right, his murders involved rape as well. None of these victims were sexually assaulted.
Great question, Jane Doe is gold though. They spent a long time together, she would know if it was him. Especially his nasaly voice. I also think they said no DNA match and Keyes must be in every database by now.
How can there be so many unsolved murders in one community? The police department must've bungled all these cases. Maybe look into all security employees at the time. Look at all interviewed persons of interest again.
I remember hearing about this story on _America's Most Wanted_ and it scared the living hell out of me. I can't even imagine the terror the victims felt. My heart goes out to their families.
Seems like they're connect and the killer just escalated
I remember that when I was a child! He was a hero to everyone and he was let off. The good old days….
Nothing is unraveled
Praying 🙇🏻♂️for justice. I know on judgment day 📖 the lord will bring those responsible..I’m so sorry for your loss.💖
Clickbait title. No missing piece was discovered.
I'll never forget this. And we haven't been to that mall since
I remember when this happened. It’s terrifying.
Thank you for covering this case. Why not do the ancestral DNA. Lots of people would donate to cover the cost!! It was said they have lots of his DNA.
Just watched a crime get solved by opening up a facebook page dedicated to it. i know alot of drama comes out that but crazy how things start to surface as a result.
These cases demonstrate why situational awareness is the most important tool you can have. If something doesn't look right stop what your doing and find the security office or call 911
Also it has been said it always starts in the parking lot, that is why security needs to be proactive in the parking lots.
Maybe more victims of Isaac Keyes?
That’s what I think.
I believe this guy will be caught.
The caught the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker after decades, they should use the same methods to catch this murderer, if the DNA belongs to him. They have Keyes's DNA, so if it was him, they would already have announced it because it would be high profile.
❤condolences, hi,from Chicago South Side!
Killer moved to different town and kept killing
This case is sooo haunting!! I PRAY 🙏🏽 he is caught!!!! Or at least revealed who he was if he’s dead!!
We are supposed to know it’s not Israel Keyes.
But
Are they completely sure?
Ive always thought the sketch looked a lot like him
I believe he didn't kill kids, but then again, serial killers are known to be big fat liars
@@angiehemp4295 I believe his murders also always included rape, but none of these victims were sexually assaulted.
This is so scary!
There were three of these at the same place. Think about that when you see cops running speed traps for 11 over
Could the perpetrator be an employee of the mall or security?
I WAS really interested in this story...however, this story is like it is on a loop. They say the very same things over and over and over again. The same video bytes are played repeatedly. Whoever made this video should be aware they made me hate this video! I am sorry for all of these people involved, but I cannot take one more second of listening to this. I barely made it to 21:53, I have to give up. So IF...there was ANYTHING IMPORTANT that you said after the 21:53 marker it was lost due to horrible editing, leaving in what seemed like at least ONE HUNDRED repeated statements.
I remember. We had a coworker young lady murdered around same time in Boca. Never found her murderer also
I just shared this on my Facebook page. You never know maybe it can help!!!!❤
I was a barista at Teavana at Town Center when this happened.... we walked to our cars in groups for a while. About 6 months later a couple guys were pulled over for being suspicious. They had guns and clown masks chillin in their trunk. It fel surreal.
Heartbreaking
Everyone involved acts like this is a big huge secret.
Genealogy DNA - that's what it's going to take!
Ok guys...look at the hat. The guy obviously works outside. You don't buy a new hat to rob people. He's young with short hair. You should have looked at landscapers who worked outside at the mall. Where are your investigative skills for Pete's sake?!?!?!
They looked at everyone in the area I bet.
Probably the most logical comment on the thread. He would know if any security changes were made. Down side to the theory is another worker would see that sketch and say "Hey that looks/looked like Ricardo."
This is an amazing case the press has to do better job of keeping it relevant keeping it in the mind of the public.
Psychics could rip this open.
I know they have already thought of this but what about someone that worked for Simon as a maintenance person or janitorial staff. The way the guy knew about the blind spots seems odd. Or what about a member of security themselves?
How about you get Parabon Nano Lab tech to run DNA tracking ? It’s worth it , for that little girl and her mom , anything it’s worth it.
Jeez is that all u can come up with. They were all in the mall? Police have nothing. Stupid 😢
I remember this. It was pretty bad
Go to 20 minutes in for information on solving the case.
Damn i remember this clearly rip 🙏 ladies 😢
High-end shopping mall with lax security are you kidding me? Took a guard 8 hours to find an idling car in the mall parking lot with the bodies of mother and child? Ridiculous ! 🤢
Isn't it amazing that everybody in Boca Raton sounds like they came from New Jersey...
i lived in delray beach for a year and i never knew this happened... wtf
Seems to be personal.???
The other 2 were probably a sidetrack for the first 2 murdered.
It’s possible the criminal is no longer alive, or that he’s in prison, up on some other charge.
The killer banked at Bank of America.
The vehicle he used probably wasn't his.
He targeted distracted beautiful women.
He lived in the Fort Lauderdale area at the time.
Unravelling?.... Where?
I believe the SK is a Hispanic male (the sketch description and the area), average height (the reason why he is using a gun) he physically can't control a female. He was going thru a divorce and turned into hate towards females, now he is married with a family or in church like the BTK. He is still in the area.
Whoever did this is probably in jail - these phsycos Don't stop
If money was not the primary motive and they were not sexually assaulted, do the police have any possible motive other than a "control" issue. A it extreme just to exact control over someone.
I felt like it was a hit🤔I remember this like yesterday. At the time I strongly felt like they was running from someone. I think this happened around the same time as that deadly shooting at the Boynton Mall. I have faith that Pbso will solve this case🙏🏾
I hope you understand the same feeling for the Israelites families
Joey and her mum must have recognised the killer and that’s why he did them in. R.I.P
There’s no doubt the killer has continued killing, but in a more low profile way. He’s out there doing his thing and not every murder ends up on the news..
It’s a shame how some family members get stuck in the past I mean it is so traumatizing it’s scars the mind and heart. It’s like a recording that keeps playing over and over again.
The last thing they think about I’m going to bed is the first thing they think about when they wake up
It was some one that knew where the cameras are at
I feel like he allowed the second mother and child to live because the child was a boy. He may have had a son of similar age at the time and he reminded him of his own son.
I would look back at someone local who just went through a divorce and had his child taken away by the system
This has literally been 5 minutes of talk and like 3 minutes of ads. I just stopped watching, I get ads but in a 40 plus minute video really?
Has law enforcement done any ballistics on any bullets or casings, I'm sure the ME knows what kind of firearm was used to murder the first victim.
Where was the security gaurd at and why did it take him over 8 hrs before the 3rd victims were found inside of an idling car??
They don't have DNA other wise they would have ran familiar dna.
I genuinely believe that he will never be caught sadly.
They would have had trace DNA from the first mall dry run when perp kidnapped a woman and child in the mall then hours later released them - but Boca police bungled that, didn't believe the woman and arrested her = not collecting valuable DNA at the crime scene !!
This is horrifying, im not shocked by much but this is truly the stuff of nightmares!
I cant even try to imagine the terror the poor Mother & child must have suffered, both for each other as well as for themselves, & then this Demon actually killed them after putting them through such an ordeal & getting what he asked for.
I feel this vicious killer knew his wealthy hunting ground & that he moved on. He either had a temporary problem & his family took control of it or was sent away. Id look at rehab & mental health facilities for admissions around that time.
Were two women who died divorced or getting a divorce??????
The person or persons had to know a bit about banking and being able to withdraw money from a credit card at certain times. Then choosing the most vulnerable, mothers with small children.
I didnt know about the other woman from Delray
It doesn't seem like the local police dept is not really in that big of a hurry for solving these cases.
Lastly, not one individual in these interviews gave the public, and us the viewers, anything other than a 17 yr old sketch of a white male with sunglasses on with a safari looking hat on.
There are alot of shady characters, that are both directly and also indirectly placing suspicion especially with alot of unanswered questions involving people who should have had the training needed to spot an individual who looks out of place especially when it all abruptly ends with 2 women, and a 10 yr old girl are dead, all the while a woman and her infant/toddler son are left in the parking lot alive and unscathed. Pretty ironic.
The common denominator is the mall. Simon Realty. Could it be with a vendetta against the property owner. Just a guess. All were women, who else shops at the mall. The theory that the man has a child the same age as Jane Does’s son, spot on. So, a young man with a son with an issue with Simon Realty. Worth a look!
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So pointless, didn't even get to who was responsible. All I understood was that this was a coward number 1, only going after little kids and their moms. Pathetic
I am glad he is locked away for life
They haven’t caught this guy yet??
I'm a big 48hours, medical detectives and all that genre fan, I've watched your show for the first time.
I'm sorry to say it straight away, but this episode started good but turned bad very fast. 70% of the video is just sounds, sirens and flashing images and silence. Every 5min a flashbacks from 5min ago, informations about the killer and the victims, i mean in that situations, are more or less non existent.
I hope it is just this episode, because I love crime shows 😅
There's another show that does this only worse. Have you ever watched "I Survived". Its format is the worst!...three intermittent stories going on in the same half hour with repeated flashbacks. But the worst part is the absence of a narrator at critical points where you have to have your eyeballs peeled to the screen at all times to read the captions or else you'll miss a crucial detail. I love CourtTV but I've boycotted that show.
@@dayinthelifeofmycat that's sounds awful. It's way to hard to find a good, professional show without sensation journalism and straight information/presentation 😁
Edit i have to check I survived now 😭
@@dayinthelifeofmycat One true crime channel on YT that I enjoy is Coffeehouse Crime. He does a great job.