My thoughts EXACTLY Simon. EVERYBODY needs an escapism from the bad & the ugly. If we can't have a 90 minute period which makes us enjoy, cheer & forget about the outside world, I question just how much football should now be considered a sport.
The issue isn't with the cause, it's with it's origin and how it was misconstrued and you couldn't even have a debate about it. Now everyone is forced to, otherwise it's a potential career ender and the woke harpies on Twitter will have a field day, doing what they do best, ruin your life with baseless accusations.
When I was growing up sport was staunchly apolitical. We all accepted that whatever else was going on in the world, sport would be kept out of it. Unfortunately everything has become politicised now.
No it wasn’t. 1934 Olympics. 1968 Olympics . 1972 Olympics. 1980 Olympics. 1984 Olympics. The 1982-90 rebel cricket tours of South Africa. You’d have to be seriously old not to have seen sport mixed with politics. Sport is global entertainment therefore it has a massive platform, consequently it has been and will always be a forum for those with a political agenda, who will obviously make their point in whatever forum where it will be most heard.
@D the world Cup in Argentina was what many would consider the first real entrance of politics into the football world. There's a great documentary on it and politics' influence on fifa and the game since then, highly recommend it. I wish it were apolitical as someone who cares about politics but also a fan of the game but unfortunately the reality is it is political. Its a business now and inescapably political because its such a money orientated industry nowadays
@@Sanchezzi90 I would suggest the hijacking of the 1972 Olympics is though not a good reference to activism at a sporting event unless you're an anti-Semite, which there are plenty in the activism circles in this country
Jim is shocked and appalled that some people don't want to be lectured and have agendas forced down their throats every hour of every day. Personally, I think it's quite reasonable.
@@patrickpmpm4559 you know you're being deliberately twattish I presume? Yes it's being lectured, yes it's being rammed down or throats. I really couldn't care who or how someone loves or how they live their lives or even how they pray. I'm an adult though, just leave me alone for 90 pissing minutes. 👍
@@ifstar3 okay so the chants are a hate crime and the police can deal with the relevant offenders. Someone who has worked hard all week and seeing all these current topics or agendas being discussed 24/7 weekly doesn’t want it in escapism. That’s why current day Disney films are tanking at the cinema People are getting sick of the issues pushed constantly by usually the worst offenders.
tbf I think Jim provides a good foil to provide counter arguments. It'd be very uninteresting if it's two guys saying i agree with you, you agree with me. It opens up new avenues for an argument.
@@DeeDeeDanone he said in his opinion it should be respected. He also clarified that it was the PL that requested the teams plays the national anthem so it was put on them.
It's called social engineering and football is used for it so much due to its popularity, particularly with certain demographics that the ruling class might struggle to indoctrinate otherwise. Talk Sport do their fair share of it.
Spot on, they slowly indoctrinate the minds of the working class male through football, pushing their agendas non stop, ‘player of the match’, rainbow laces, kneeling before games, climate change ‘green weekend’ it’s literally non stop nowadays.
He was ranting the other day about fans booing the coronation, this geezer's a walking contradiction.. So it's ok to get the monarchy rammed down you're throat is it !!
Awareness is the dumbest form of pandering that is the bare minimum of solving issues. Come up with solutions then tell us and push to implement them. But they won't do that because there's too much profiteering to be done through 'raising awareness'
I 100% agree with Simon on this as i use sport and especially football as an escapism even if its only for 90 minutes its the most important 90 minutes in my week
I hear you Jordan, your 2 hour distraction has been hijacked by people who want to spew ideology at people and cancel anyone asking questions about it. They're a shambles
I couldnt agree with simon more and can confidently say that doesnt happen often with me. Activism is pushed in my face in every aspect of my life and it is depressing the life out of me. I have no escape from anything because it has been took from me.
Then help solve the problems, don't bury your head in the damn sand, Christ on a bike hear yourself. When in your entire life has the solution ever been to ignore the problem?
Completely agree. Activism should be kept out of entertainment. It's damaging to the actual activism if you're forcing people to live in the real world 24/7. Throwing soup on painting pisses more people off than it inspires.
Many of them are staged events, the cameras pan away, the microphones muted and the commentators distract if it's not part of the script. Have you noticed?
100% spot on Simon. I am sick to death of the virtue signalling and the endless propaganda being shoved down out throats constantly over and over again and then these same people have the NERVE to turn around and say "Why are you so pissed off about it!? Don't you support the cause!?" No, the overwhelming majority of the time I don't support your bloody cause and want you to piss off with your lecturing and get on with the game of football which is what are all here to see rather than the likes of Lineker practically drooling at the mouth at the chance to show a highlight package of how evil X thing is and how terrible X people are being treated. The best thing to do when all that crap comes on is to go to the bathroom because at least the crap you produce from your body there has been more productive and useful and serves a genuine purpose rather than the crap that is on the TV at that moment.
Yes keep politics out of sport. There comes a time when the average male gets fed up of being lectured about racism, LGBT, personal pronouns, social causes, or anything else. We don’t care about taking the knee etc. We just want to watch a game.
@@RSSP2000nah, social context matters. Obviously the point being made by the knee is valid, namely that everybody is of equal & dignity irrespective of race. But there was undeniably an agenda pushed by mainstream media and others, to further fragment society and promote racial tension.
Because time and again people only look at the headlines and switch on the news channel or TV/Radio pundits and they tell them to do X thing, along with masses of propaganda telling people to do X thing and that if you don't do X thing and go along with it your bad and should be punished. Here is one for you, how about NO! You DO NOT represent me, you ARE NOT one of the little guys fighting against the evil establishment, you ARE the establishment and are continuously pushing establishment narratives and have been for a long time despite a lot of them not realising it, and I WON'T do what you tell me and the harder you push me to comply, guess what? The harder I PUSH BACK!
@@emmanueladedeji3335they do this by pushing for gestures like the knee and then get both sides of the argument against each other while they continue to rob the working people.
Martin Tyler on the opening day of next season. "and here we are at old Trafford for the start of this campaign, the players take the knee to show that there is zero tolerance towards any form of discrimination both in football and in society. The referee blows his whistle and Mason Greenwood gets us underway.... "
I don’t mind football being a vessel to fight against homelessness or knife crimes... those are really serious things that are more important and I think it’s good clubs do things like that, all the rest of it I sort of agree
The only thing I look forward to in my week is watching my team play. There’s not much else to be happy about nowadays, but one thing I do love is watching my team play. Win or lose. Keep politics out of football for god sake.
If footballers want to fight for these causes on THEIR OWN time, then so be it. But during the matches, we don’t need activism. People go to football to be entertained, not be lectured
Football is a facet of English culture. It must keep up with the progression of the culture that we as British people keep. This is the same reason why we dont see people being flogged for entertainment. Football is culture, culture is ever changing.
@@CT-sy4wj Get your beak out of imposing upon others what they should think or it has every chance of being snapped, with good reason. Safe spaces online isn't the real world
@@CT-sy4wj another facet of English culture that is sadly forgotten is we dont take kindly to people who endlessly bang on about one thing all the time.
Disgraceful that the talkSPORT employee responsible for titling these videos chose to reduce and belittle what Simon Jordan had to say by branding his words as a "RANT".
If only. We clap 3 times a game now at matches because someone has died or they're having an operation. It makes weak people feel good about themselves because it displays their virtues, but at the end of it all it's empty and meaningless like all signalling and activism shovelled into sport every bloody day
Agree with Simon All creeds go into the stadium for one belief and that is for their team and that actually unites more people than divides let's not forget that
Then don't have advertising in the stadium either. Because I cannot possibly focus on a game of football with a beer commercial or airline commercial flashing up for a few second....
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@@chrisfrank2664 all of which I know there not contracts there pay as you go as we have no fixed home so please loose the attitude & prejudice I was a successful dentist until I fell on hard times I have a spine disease too with a FAILED L5 S1 spinal fusion I'm in pain daily so don't insult someone that's already in a bad place we are all football fans I have every right to be one too. Remember old boy homelessness can affect anyone once circumstances are out of our hands no one knows what tomorrow holds my friend
I’ve always been supportive of these campaigns and discussions raising awareness, and was very disappointed in the World Cup when we bottled it at the first sign of consequences. However, completely agree with Simon, really great point. There can be so many other ways to bring awareness, could be a message on the ticket, an event in the ground after the match, tv blackout, but for 90 mins there should be the opportunity to escape from our wonderful and miserable lives 😂
Simon is so right, the minority with all their agendas is creeping into the game, creating divisions and spoiling enjoyment for majority. He's right to push back against it, it should be about the game. As for Jim he was just spouting the line to try trip Simon up and failed miserably.
I don't usually agree with Simon but I definitely do understand where he is coming from. Token gestures from football don't actually do much for the agenda's being pushed. We are tired of x political movement and y political movement happening every other game. We mostly know what's happening in the world and not only does it make adults even more tired and bitter but it also does damage to teens and kids who grow this pretentious mindset that if they scream and throw accusations loud enough on social media that they are somehow in the right and try to insight an almost 1939 mentality with movements that hit those levels of extremism and fascism. The best places to insight positive change are by getting into positions of power and actually doing something and/or by using media exposure to brainwash people into accepting their ideology.
Agreed with SJ re using football to highlight every cause. I’ve said before that football and footballers get a lot of criticism, but hey presto, from Chris Packham to Lineker, and from race, religion, gender etc look to football to resolve the issues…
Absolutely agree!! I can't be arsed with politics. The taking of the knee was/is a joke!! No body cares about it. Let us enjoy our football. It's why we like films, we like to escape for the 2 hours without being lectured
Simon is 100% on the money .. stop the rubbish with the Ukraine flags, BLM, LGBTQ+1£}]>\, Homelessness, Knife crime or whatever the agenda.. let us just watch the sport we pay to watch without anything being forced down our throats !!!
I agree with Simon… With Tv and internet there are plenty of other platforms to discuss these topics… I don’t need Arsenal to wear an all white kit to highlight knife crime…. Everyone knows the issue because it’s on the 10’oclock news every night!!!
Disagree with Simon. Sport has often been used as a platform for political and social causes. Some of the most iconic images in history were during sport. This is not to say that all political causes will be widely accepted, but this idea that sport is an exemption from political issues is a misnomer. Some clubs exist because of issues such as class and religion. For example Celtic (Catholicism) vs Rangers (Protestantism), Real Madrid (conservative, ruling class) vs Barcelona/Atletico Madrid (liberal, working class).
There is a thing called World Cup, Which has always been a political and ideological event. Qatar for example, which was sport washing on a Grand Scale.
Don't normally agree with Simon on this BUT he is 100% spot on with this. Can we all just watch football for 90 minutes without having to see agendas, activism etc. I mean there is nothing wrong with the causes, but why does the sport need to carry the can.
It's absolutely everywhere and even real factual history is being hit with the disgusting woke poison, like they're race swapping historical people like Anne Boleyn, Cleopatra, David Copperfield to name a few and distorting history to suit their agenda like the woman king where they made black savage slavers seem like heroes, it's disgusting and the western countries are getting hit very, very hard.
I've said it before on here but unless it's specifically something to do with football then keep it out. As if someone is going to go out and kill someone and then thought "arsenal wore a white kit so I don't think I will now" that's never happened. I'm a Liverpool fan and it winds me up when a kid gets shot or stabbed and some Liverpool and Everton fans start bringing out banners saying "no knives in our city" as if that's going to stop someone who's on his way to wing a machete in someone's neck.
Just have the football event; before, during and immediately after. Don't have taking the knee, anthems for monarchy events or any other events, just have the footy. Thats all we want for the game and just either side of the game.
I think the flaw in this argument is that it is more idealistic than practical. Already, football and statements are inseparable. There are adverts, billboards, opinions of pundits and even player celebrations that all make statements that have the tendency to offend certain sensibilities. Making a statement by singing the anthem should be able to sit side by side with the boos of those who disagree.
if we were in a movie theater and in the middle of the movie the projector started playing an ad with pictures of people who died from cancer would you be able to continue like nothing happened?
By gammons you mean working class people who just want some escapism from the everyday world and not be told by hypocritical multi millionaires and their corrupt governing body's what is moral and what isn't.
This is a weird one. No one likes activism in sports, yet football fans still abuse players and officials for various reasons. Such abuse is a significant contributor to the activism we see today.
SOME football fans abuse players and officials. The activism is by climate end-time nutters, the trans cult and the "judge people by the their skin colour", who see everyone with privileges and victimhood.
Im ok with football using its platform to bring to light football specific issues, such as abuse from fans at games, mistreatment of sunday league referees etc. However, if you want to branch out into a wider discussion, go elsewhere.
You got to use humour: * First it was 1 Minute Silence aka 1 Minute Hate * Second it was Take The Knee aka Bending The Knee * Then Third it was Bend Over And Take It UP...
In world war 1 the fighting was stopped for a day of truce at Christmas. Each side put aside politics and LITERAL WAR to play a game of football in no mans land. To escape the horror of their reality. Even if just for a day. Simon is right.
Keep politics out of football at all times, it's one of the only totally unifying things in Britain, appeals to literally every type of individual one could think of. Taking my young kids to a Millwall home game shouldn't involve having to explain why people boo the taking of the knee or they cheer the national anthem but Liverpool don't... its a game of football ffs.
@@jascu4251 Boo EVERYTHING that doesn't involve the game... The national anthem, the knee taking and the stupid rainbow armbands. They'll get the hint if it's continuously booed
100% Simon is right. I am tired of causes. What does breast cancer awareness have to do with football on a sarturday. I thought bbc sings about that all day
People who can't fathom the idea of others wanting a two hour break from politics, whatever that may be, whoever they may be, give me fascistic vibes. I do wonder if they had the power to project messages into folks' dreams would they try and 'use that platform for good' too?
I already know how terrible the world has become and very much aware of the major problems that we are facing. Why the hell do i need to be reminded of that when I want to forget about it all through sport??
Because you WILL BEND the knee to BLM, you WILL allow men dressed as woman into woman only spaces, you WILL sexualise children & you WILL be guilty for being white.
Across the board. Let sport be sport. Remove activism, politics the lot from it. I mean the lot. No more banners, ribbons, rainbows any of it. We already know football is for everyone. Easy. Thats it.
I agree with this, every time I go to Arsenal I'm lectured about stamping out racism, *over & over & over again* - I have been going to Arsenal to sit in the North Bank for a loooong time & I haven't seen one example of racism to date. The irony is that the real racists wouldn't be listening to these silly lectures anyway...
Football used to be an escape but now it's a direct reminder amd a reflection of society. Doesn't help with the bending the knee, blm banners on the ads with gay rainbow flags everywhere and 'say no to racism' EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK
Simon is 100% correct...been saying this for years now. Sport is about the competition between athletes and the escapism for fans...it is not a political vehicle for people to pin their agendas to. The reason I cancelled Sky Sports a year ago was due to the political messaging, hectoring and lecturing. Keep politics out of sport
My thoughts EXACTLY Simon. EVERYBODY needs an escapism from the bad & the ugly. If we can't have a 90 minute period which makes us enjoy, cheer & forget about the outside world, I question just how much football should now be considered a sport.
I am black and that take the knee was a serious division, typical modern day football agenda. Simon is spot onnnnnn
Well said. Saw precisely what it was going to end up doing in reverse.
The issue isn't with the cause, it's with it's origin and how it was misconstrued and you couldn't even have a debate about it. Now everyone is forced to, otherwise it's a potential career ender and the woke harpies on Twitter will have a field day, doing what they do best, ruin your life with baseless accusations.
Why do you have to mention your race? Everyone with a brain was against it.
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If you're really black, do you consider racism divisive?
When I was growing up sport was staunchly apolitical. We all accepted that whatever else was going on in the world, sport would be kept out of it. Unfortunately everything has become politicised now.
So true
No it wasn’t. 1934 Olympics. 1968 Olympics . 1972 Olympics. 1980 Olympics. 1984 Olympics. The 1982-90 rebel cricket tours of South Africa. You’d have to be seriously old not to have seen sport mixed with politics. Sport is global entertainment therefore it has a massive platform, consequently it has been and will always be a forum for those with a political agenda, who will obviously make their point in whatever forum where it will be most heard.
@@nogginnogg1788 you're talking rubbish. The only sport event you refer to that was remotely political was the Olympics in nazi Germany.
@D the world Cup in Argentina was what many would consider the first real entrance of politics into the football world. There's a great documentary on it and politics' influence on fifa and the game since then, highly recommend it. I wish it were apolitical as someone who cares about politics but also a fan of the game but unfortunately the reality is it is political. Its a business now and inescapably political because its such a money orientated industry nowadays
@@Sanchezzi90 I would suggest the hijacking of the 1972 Olympics is though not a good reference to activism at a sporting event unless you're an anti-Semite, which there are plenty in the activism circles in this country
Jim is shocked and appalled that some people don't want to be lectured and have agendas forced down their throats every hour of every day.
Personally, I think it's quite reasonable.
Your idea of being "lectured" and having something "forced down your throat" is someone wearing a different coloured kit or armband?
@@patrickpmpm4559 you know you're being deliberately twattish I presume? Yes it's being lectured, yes it's being rammed down or throats. I really couldn't care who or how someone loves or how they live their lives or even how they pray. I'm an adult though, just leave me alone for 90 pissing minutes. 👍
@Patrick no the idea is not bringing any political thing into sport
The problem is blokes who can't stop themselves monkey chanting and abusing players which forced players to push back.
@@ifstar3 okay so the chants are a hate crime and the police can deal with the relevant offenders.
Someone who has worked hard all week and seeing all these current topics or agendas being discussed 24/7 weekly doesn’t want it in escapism.
That’s why current day Disney films are tanking at the cinema
People are getting sick of the issues pushed constantly by usually the worst offenders.
Honestly can tell jim worked for sky
Sky has ruined football and most sports
tbf I think Jim provides a good foil to provide counter arguments. It'd be very uninteresting if it's two guys saying i agree with you, you agree with me. It opens up new avenues for an argument.
Oh god you’re not wrong. He loves the drama. He’s just like all the other presenters constantly virtual signalling. 🤦🏼♂️
@@alistairsmith5389 The left = virtue signaling Olympics
@@oscargrainger3258 Absolutely agree. Jim makes for a great 'Devils advocate' which leads Jordan into these type of rants. Makes bloody good radio.
Can listen to Jordan putting Jim in his place every single day it’s fantastic well done Simon
But it's fake though, he loves football being leveraged for topics he supports i.e. forcing Liverpool fans to sit through and sing the king's anthem.
@@DeeDeeDanone he said in his opinion it should be respected. He also clarified that it was the PL that requested the teams plays the national anthem so it was put on them.
@@DeeDeeDanone If scousers don't see themselves as English and hate everything about the country then move out. Its a pretty simple concept really
It's called social engineering and football is used for it so much due to its popularity, particularly with certain demographics that the ruling class might struggle to indoctrinate otherwise. Talk Sport do their fair share of it.
Their whole existence is built on it.
Spot on, they slowly indoctrinate the minds of the working class male through football, pushing their agendas non stop, ‘player of the match’, rainbow laces, kneeling before games, climate change ‘green weekend’ it’s literally non stop nowadays.
Agreed, but we get a bit of lip service from time to time.
He was ranting the other day about fans booing the coronation, this geezer's a walking contradiction.. So it's ok to get the monarchy rammed down you're throat is it !!
Exactly. Thanks for reminding me I’m not going mad
Well done, Simon.
All we get is *awareness*, we're sick of it !!
Sick of being aware is stupid. 😅😅
@@yepthisme One has got to be REALLY stupid of NOT being aware of all these things, as it is shoved down our throats every day !! 🤣🤣
Awareness is the dumbest form of pandering that is the bare minimum of solving issues. Come up with solutions then tell us and push to implement them. But they won't do that because there's too much profiteering to be done through 'raising awareness'
Talking to Jim White is like talking to a grey brick wall
I genuinely cannot stand him….
Simon Jordan is a breath of fresh air.
I 100% agree with Simon on this as i use sport and especially football as an escapism even if its only for 90 minutes its the most important 90 minutes in my week
Then don't have advertising in the stadium.... You can't pick and choose.
Then you need to get a life. Imagine saying the best part of your week was going to Tesco. 😂
@@bs4754 daft reply
@@bs4754 Do you know what a false equivalence is?
I hear you Jordan, your 2 hour distraction has been hijacked by people who want to spew ideology at people and cancel anyone asking questions about it. They're a shambles
Simon is brave. And we need more people like him who don't fall in line for the optics.
Brave? He gets paid handsomely to provide these sort of views.
I couldnt agree with simon more and can confidently say that doesnt happen often with me.
Activism is pushed in my face in every aspect of my life and it is depressing the life out of me. I have no escape from anything because it has been took from me.
Poor you 😢
so now you know what it's like for people of other races and sexualities every day of their lives?
Then help solve the problems, don't bury your head in the damn sand, Christ on a bike hear yourself. When in your entire life has the solution ever been to ignore the problem?
Could you elaborate on how it suffocates your pleasures?
@@tg-lt4yn what race and sexuality are assuming that I am? Because that is a wild comment to make when you literally haven't got a clue
Spot on Simon! Couldn't agree more
Totally agree with Simon on this it’s the only 90 minutes escapism I get well said
Don't really get it - the 90 minutes is entirely uninterrupted by anything remotely political...
What happens during the 90 mins 😂
Completely agree. Activism should be kept out of entertainment. It's damaging to the actual activism if you're forcing people to live in the real world 24/7. Throwing soup on painting pisses more people off than it inspires.
Many of them are staged events, the cameras pan away, the microphones muted and the commentators distract if it's not part of the script. Have you noticed?
@@Beyond_Belief534 ….. Say … Beck … Beercan ✊….
“ Sport is about Sport “ Simon Jordan.
I cant agree more.
100% spot on Simon. I am sick to death of the virtue signalling and the endless propaganda being shoved down out throats constantly over and over again and then these same people have the NERVE to turn around and say "Why are you so pissed off about it!? Don't you support the cause!?" No, the overwhelming majority of the time I don't support your bloody cause and want you to piss off with your lecturing and get on with the game of football which is what are all here to see rather than the likes of Lineker practically drooling at the mouth at the chance to show a highlight package of how evil X thing is and how terrible X people are being treated. The best thing to do when all that crap comes on is to go to the bathroom because at least the crap you produce from your body there has been more productive and useful and serves a genuine purpose rather than the crap that is on the TV at that moment.
Yes keep politics out of sport. There comes a time when the average male gets fed up of being lectured about racism, LGBT, personal pronouns, social causes, or anything else.
We don’t care about taking the knee etc. We just want to watch a game.
The one that really was annoying was taking the knee. So many people don't realise what a bs cause that was to actually create division.
Division between normal people and racists.
@@RSSP2000nah, social context matters. Obviously the point being made by the knee is valid, namely that everybody is of equal & dignity irrespective of race. But there was undeniably an agenda pushed by mainstream media and others, to further fragment society and promote racial tension.
Because time and again people only look at the headlines and switch on the news channel or TV/Radio pundits and they tell them to do X thing, along with masses of propaganda telling people to do X thing and that if you don't do X thing and go along with it your bad and should be punished. Here is one for you, how about NO! You DO NOT represent me, you ARE NOT one of the little guys fighting against the evil establishment, you ARE the establishment and are continuously pushing establishment narratives and have been for a long time despite a lot of them not realising it, and I WON'T do what you tell me and the harder you push me to comply, guess what? The harder I PUSH BACK!
@@emmanueladedeji3335they do this by pushing for gestures like the knee and then get both sides of the argument against each other while they continue to rob the working people.
Taking a knee because a guy in America died.
Martin Tyler on the opening day of next season.
"and here we are at old Trafford for the start of this campaign, the players take the knee to show that there is zero tolerance towards any form of discrimination both in football and in society. The referee blows his whistle and Mason Greenwood gets us underway.... "
Sir Lord Jordan = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
I thought you were giving up TH-cam comments to become a full-time comedian bud?
no sir. hes let his sartorial standards slip im very disappointed
I don’t mind football being a vessel to fight against homelessness or knife crimes... those are really serious things that are more important and I think it’s good clubs do things like that, all the rest of it I sort of agree
The only thing I look forward to in my week is watching my team play. There’s not much else to be happy about nowadays, but one thing I do love is watching my team play. Win or lose. Keep politics out of football for god sake.
If footballers want to fight for these causes on THEIR OWN time, then so be it. But during the matches, we don’t need activism. People go to football to be entertained, not be lectured
Football is a facet of English culture. It must keep up with the progression of the culture that we as British people keep. This is the same reason why we dont see people being flogged for entertainment. Football is culture, culture is ever changing.
@@CT-sy4wj football is entertainment that is paid for by the fans who are well entitled to not want hypocrits telling them what's right and wrong.
@@CT-sy4wj Get your beak out of imposing upon others what they should think or it has every chance of being snapped, with good reason. Safe spaces online isn't the real world
@@CT-sy4wj another facet of English culture that is sadly forgotten is we dont take kindly to people who endlessly bang on about one thing all the time.
@@Beyond_Belief534 you’re hard.
Jim worked for wokie sky who knew
Disgraceful that the talkSPORT employee responsible for titling these videos chose to reduce and belittle what Simon Jordan had to say by branding his words as a "RANT".
If only. We clap 3 times a game now at matches because someone has died or they're having an operation. It makes weak people feel good about themselves because it displays their virtues, but at the end of it all it's empty and meaningless like all signalling and activism shovelled into sport every bloody day
Agree with Simon All creeds go into the stadium for one belief and that is for their team and that actually unites more people than divides let's not forget that
It starts with the poppy
Well said Simon!!!
SJ had some outlandish views recently but he’s nailed this one.
Then don't have advertising in the stadium either. Because I cannot possibly focus on a game of football with a beer commercial or airline commercial flashing up for a few second....
Hey im Mr Homeless & i endorse this video i love game days because i sit outside Stamford bridge with my 1994 Chelsea shirton with my sign saying Im Homeless & the regulars help me they say Hi Mr Homeless im well known l
Just charged my phone up in the library & hate when football season is over as the streets are dry & usually make my way down to Bournemouth for my holidays as its warmer there to be out on the street.
I like talksport daily i endorse this channel & talking about the Homeless today was nice.
The diet of a Homeless person is bad as most buy us fast food & coffees.
Ok thanks for taking the time to read bye
How many homeless people have cell phones?
@@chrisfrank2664 all of which I know there not contracts there pay as you go as we have no fixed home so please loose the attitude & prejudice I was a successful dentist until I fell on hard times I have a spine disease too with a FAILED L5 S1 spinal fusion I'm in pain daily so don't insult someone that's already in a bad place we are all football fans I have every right to be one too.
Remember old boy homelessness can affect anyone once circumstances are out of our hands no one knows what tomorrow holds my friend
Simon Jordan bang on 🔥🔥🔥
This time he's 🎯
I’ve always been supportive of these campaigns and discussions raising awareness, and was very disappointed in the World Cup when we bottled it at the first sign of consequences. However, completely agree with Simon, really great point. There can be so many other ways to bring awareness, could be a message on the ticket, an event in the ground after the match, tv blackout, but for 90 mins there should be the opportunity to escape from our wonderful and miserable lives 😂
Simon is so right, the minority with all their agendas is creeping into the game, creating divisions and spoiling enjoyment for majority. He's right to push back against it, it should be about the game. As for Jim he was just spouting the line to try trip Simon up and failed miserably.
Amen Simon! It's one blooming cause every other second. It's exhausting and boring and doesn't change ANYTHING
A war on ideas
When does that end exactly? Oh that's right, it doesn't
Simon bang on as ever...
Totally agree with Simon - sick and tired of activism at every turn.
Just pišś off with the constant harassment.
I don't usually agree with Simon but I definitely do understand where he is coming from. Token gestures from football don't actually do much for the agenda's being pushed. We are tired of x political movement and y political movement happening every other game. We mostly know what's happening in the world and not only does it make adults even more tired and bitter but it also does damage to teens and kids who grow this pretentious mindset that if they scream and throw accusations loud enough on social media that they are somehow in the right and try to insight an almost 1939 mentality with movements that hit those levels of extremism and fascism. The best places to insight positive change are by getting into positions of power and actually doing something and/or by using media exposure to brainwash people into accepting their ideology.
Jimbo is so woke doesn't want to listen to another opinions that doesn't suit his own agenda.
maybe needs a good haymaker to the bonce down near london bridge any millwall fans about ? thank you
Agreed with SJ re using football to highlight every cause. I’ve said before that football and footballers get a lot of criticism, but hey presto, from Chris Packham to Lineker, and from race, religion, gender etc look to football to resolve the issues…
Absolutely agree!! I can't be arsed with politics. The taking of the knee was/is a joke!! No body cares about it. Let us enjoy our football. It's why we like films, we like to escape for the 2 hours without being lectured
They won't let you enjoy it
Couldn't agree more with Simon
Simon is 100% on the money .. stop the rubbish with the Ukraine flags, BLM, LGBTQ+1£}]>\, Homelessness, Knife crime or whatever the agenda.. let us just watch the sport we pay to watch without anything being forced down our throats !!!
Simon is right
I don’t know how Jordan manages to sit next to that fool everyday. Jordan for PM please👍🏻
I genuinely cannot stand Jim
I agree with Simon…
With Tv and internet there are plenty of other platforms to discuss these topics…
I don’t need Arsenal to wear an all white kit to highlight knife crime…. Everyone knows the issue because it’s on the 10’oclock news every night!!!
Disagree with Simon. Sport has often been used as a platform for political and social causes. Some of the most iconic images in history were during sport.
This is not to say that all political causes will be widely accepted, but this idea that sport is an exemption from political issues is a misnomer.
Some clubs exist because of issues such as class and religion. For example Celtic (Catholicism) vs Rangers (Protestantism), Real Madrid (conservative, ruling class) vs Barcelona/Atletico Madrid (liberal, working class).
Don't bring your politics to me when the football is on and I won't bring mine to you.
Deal?
It's not enough for you is it? It never will be
There is a thing called World Cup, Which has always been a political and ideological event. Qatar for example, which was sport washing on a Grand Scale.
Just because a thing happens, does not mean that it should.
Lets have minutes silence for Scotsmen dying at 54 years old
Liverpool is half Irish.... Of course they are gonna boooo
So is Manchester!
@@rosshaugh7937 So is Dublin.
@@cherry-vz5kx 😂 I can't argue with that, cherry..
@@cherry-vz5kx Top Loser Proper Kn0b
Couldnt agree with Simon more !
Absolutely correct Mr J
You know what... I actually like Simon Jordan
Great comments Simon! Sport & football is such escapism - simple drama
Don't normally agree with Simon on this BUT he is 100% spot on with this. Can we all just watch football for 90 minutes without having to see agendas, activism etc. I mean there is nothing wrong with the causes, but why does the sport need to carry the can.
Simon is so good wish I could talk like him
Simon is bang on. I've been saying it for years now football was a sport it then became a business and unfortunately it's now becoming political
He’s right. And it’s the same in film, tv, video games etc.
It's absolutely everywhere and even real factual history is being hit with the disgusting woke poison, like they're race swapping historical people like Anne Boleyn, Cleopatra, David Copperfield to name a few and distorting history to suit their agenda like the woman king where they made black savage slavers seem like heroes, it's disgusting and the western countries are getting hit very, very hard.
Literally impossible
I've said it before on here but unless it's specifically something to do with football then keep it out. As if someone is going to go out and kill someone and then thought "arsenal wore a white kit so I don't think I will now" that's never happened. I'm a Liverpool fan and it winds me up when a kid gets shot or stabbed and some Liverpool and Everton fans start bringing out banners saying "no knives in our city" as if that's going to stop someone who's on his way to wing a machete in someone's neck.
Spot On Simon, Football Is turning too political.
You don't know much about the history of football if you think it's "too political" today
Just have the football event; before, during and immediately after. Don't have taking the knee, anthems for monarchy events or any other events, just have the footy. Thats all we want for the game and just either side of the game.
I think the flaw in this argument is that it is more idealistic than practical. Already, football and statements are inseparable. There are adverts, billboards, opinions of pundits and even player celebrations that all make statements that have the tendency to offend certain sensibilities. Making a statement by singing the anthem should be able to sit side by side with the boos of those who disagree.
Keep politics out of sport
if we were in a movie theater and in the middle of the movie the projector started playing an ad with pictures of people who died from cancer would you be able to continue like nothing happened?
Gammon's will love this
By gammons you mean working class people who just want some escapism from the everyday world and not be told by hypocritical multi millionaires and their corrupt governing body's what is moral and what isn't.
How tolerant of you
This is when I completely agree with Simon Jordan. Well said.
I cancelled my season ticket at the Emirates due to the nonstop pushing of agendas by the club. Totally agree with Simon Jordan.
Liverpool fans want a republic haha Cromwell destroyed Ireland
Bang on Simon, football is our game and we ain’t interested in all the crap. If anything doing this makes us worse and against it
It’s all expedient morality from some seriously unethical people: FIFA, UEFA, etc.
It starts with the poppy. It all needs to be removed from sports, football particularly
@@Beyond_Belief534 Nah! I don’t think so
So Marcus rashford should not fight for poor hungry children?
That’s not what he is saying lol. Are you suggesting Marcus Rashford doesn’t exist as a person outside of Marcus Rashford the footballer?
This is a weird one. No one likes activism in sports, yet football fans still abuse players and officials for various reasons. Such abuse is a significant contributor to the activism we see today.
SOME football fans abuse players and officials. The activism is by climate end-time nutters, the trans cult and the "judge people by the their skin colour", who see everyone with privileges and victimhood.
Im ok with football using its platform to bring to light football specific issues, such as abuse from fans at games, mistreatment of sunday league referees etc. However, if you want to branch out into a wider discussion, go elsewhere.
Simon is spot on. Keep politics and world problems out of football.
Imagine a highlight reel of Jim being a hypocrite, would take up a whole weekend 😂
You got to use humour:
* First it was 1 Minute Silence aka 1 Minute Hate
* Second it was Take The Knee aka Bending The Knee
* Then Third it was Bend Over And Take It UP...
Sport should be about sport end of story
In world war 1 the fighting was stopped for a day of truce at Christmas. Each side put aside politics and LITERAL WAR to play a game of football in no mans land. To escape the horror of their reality. Even if just for a day. Simon is right.
Totally agree with Simon on this. Stop lecturing us, we don't bloody care about you causes and agendas we are trying to watch a game of sport.
Totally agree with Simon. I’m fed up of being preached to.
Keep politics out of football at all times, it's one of the only totally unifying things in Britain, appeals to literally every type of individual one could think of.
Taking my young kids to a Millwall home game shouldn't involve having to explain why people boo the taking of the knee or they cheer the national anthem but Liverpool don't... its a game of football ffs.
I agree but what do we do about it?
Sport is politics. Football is no distraction at professional clubs
You can't remove politics from anything in life because it affects all facets of it. Don't believe me? Ask Chelsea.
@@jascu4251 Boo EVERYTHING that doesn't involve the game... The national anthem, the knee taking and the stupid rainbow armbands. They'll get the hint if it's continuously booed
@@alexbelotti1603 What does that even mean?! Sport has become political but that wasn't always the case.
100% Simon is right. I am tired of causes. What does breast cancer awareness have to do with football on a sarturday. I thought bbc sings about that all day
I don't often agree with Simon but he is 110% right.
I’m with Simon Conciquenced Jordan on this !
Simon is 100% correct. Bread and circuses!
People who can't fathom the idea of others wanting a two hour break from politics, whatever that may be, whoever they may be, give me fascistic vibes. I do wonder if they had the power to project messages into folks' dreams would they try and 'use that platform for good' too?
Simon Jordan for prime minister
Could have been worse: imagine if they played the national anthem at Celtic Park 😂
I already know how terrible the world has become and very much aware of the major problems that we are facing. Why the hell do i need to be reminded of that when I want to forget about it all through sport??
Because you WILL BEND the knee to BLM, you WILL allow men dressed as woman into woman only spaces, you WILL sexualise children & you WILL be guilty for being white.
Across the board. Let sport be sport. Remove activism, politics the lot from it. I mean the lot. No more banners, ribbons, rainbows any of it. We already know football is for everyone. Easy. Thats it.
Amen Simon!Amen.
Do you think Simon can read the tagline?
Wish he had this much to say about Ben shalom rather than lose his voice
I agree with this, every time I go to Arsenal I'm lectured about stamping out racism, *over & over & over again* - I have been going to Arsenal to sit in the North Bank for a loooong time & I haven't seen one example of racism to date.
The irony is that the real racists wouldn't be listening to these silly lectures anyway...
Football used to be an escape but now it's a direct reminder amd a reflection of society. Doesn't help with the bending the knee, blm banners on the ads with gay rainbow flags everywhere and 'say no to racism' EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK
I’m a minority in Canada 🇨🇦 and I agree with Simon 100% … keep politics and animals rights away from the sport
Well said, Simon 👍
Simon is 100% correct...been saying this for years now. Sport is about the competition between athletes and the escapism for fans...it is not a political vehicle for people to pin their agendas to. The reason I cancelled Sky Sports a year ago was due to the political messaging, hectoring and lecturing. Keep politics out of sport
Hard to escape when sport has become politicized. I find it repulsive.
Completely agree.
Nowadays everything is political.
We go the game to enjoy sport not sit there worrying about politics