Can I print it before GW ship it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2022
- Can I 3D print an equivalent set to Games Workshop's new army box Cadia Stands before they even release it?
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Ich spiele zwar keine Imps, fand die Modelle aber so toll, dass ich gerade deine Batterien gekauft habe einfach für den Fall falls ich mal Imps spielen könnte/möchte 🤣
This is the kind of video I missed so far in the 3d printing wargaming sphere! Everybody prints and paints, but with the interviews and the technical aspects... this video is giving me "value" beyond entertainment. Keep it up.
This went from a wacky “stick it to GW” video to an extremely interesting technical analysis and discussion around 3D printing
That interview about differences in settings and resin properties were REALLY insightful!
Pausing the video now to say I love the interviews you're having with these creators. I love that you always shine a spotlight on creators. I think it's interesting how they both respond to the issue of sharing their models because it is a sort of gray area. It's interesting the mix of "attempting to copy 1 to 1" and "these are based on models but with our own spin on them". I don't know if there is a great/correct answer for whether if it's bad or good to to create these models, whether or not to charge for them, or if people are right to buy/print these models out. However, I think this discussion is important and is one that people should be having. Your rpints and models looks great also! cool paintjob!
Appreciate all the work you do for your videos!
There may even be different 1:1 vs. inspired by answers when considering models that are very IP-specific (like the walker... though that in turn was probably "inspired by" an AT-ST) :) and a piece of field artillery that's not really that far removed from an historical design like a 6-pounder or a Nebelwerfer.
Appreciate your input!
as an illustrator, i'd be thrilled if someone copied my work... non profit.
that's like a huge compliment.
if they try to copy it and sell it... well that kinda sucks.
also context dependend woudn't mind a 16 year old making 200€ of my design, but when some online shop prints it on t shirt well.....
and i'm not designing as a job for a multimillion company that's also another perspective but one i can't comment on^^
But it's not like GW Designers invented AT's or Flamethrowers.
Hellboy has a biological powerfist aswell.
99% of concepts used in WH are ''stolen'' ideas some more than others...
the whole chaos thing? --> taken from a book never even credited the author....^^ i will: Michael Moorcock's Elric saga
for me atleast, if they really just try to nail it 1n1 then selling is shady.
if they use these figures as inspiration and i do think they are capeable... of even making a better model^^
but ofc people want to buy EXACTLY that official model...or close to as possible.
so i see that conflict aswell and can't blame dudes for making some side money+
GW can just watch quietly in shame when it comes to taking someones work and profiting of it...
i mean they tried to copyright Elves Dwarfs and Orcs ... can u imagin?
Sorry for the wall of text
As others have said, the interviews with designers/modelers makes these episodes incredibly insightful, and I honestly find them to be the cream of the crop of resin 3d printing videos. I love learning more than a basic 'look at this product' or a 'how to' featuring a surface-level 101 understanding regarding a single setting. Look forward to more in the future!
Ty is a legend he literally sat down with me for over an hour going through settings with me I learnt so much
Title kinda buries the lede. Very interesting discussions and viewpoints here.
I love all the value you provide us, all with a fun video too. Thanks for all the projects you take on to help 3d printing become more reliable.
the little sound effects added during painting and basing are great e.g. the texta writing scratching sound, the water sound for the glue, the dirt being moved around for the basing mix being added. Small effects but have a big impact.
Great work man
Thank you very much!
Dude, phenomenal video !
So educational, loved those interviews. Honestly, you're the king of 3D printing videos, slick visuals, buttery audio, and interesting topics.
Keep doing what you're doing, it's always a pleasure to see what you come out with - like I genuinely look forward to watching it ! :D
Haha awesome, thanks man!
Excellent video. Hearing the people behind these designs was a rare treat. 3d printing tends to be such a taboo subject but hearing what this community has to offer is pretty awesome. Keep up the amazing work man.
GW need to release affordable 3d options and get in on the action 😂
I agree, they should sell a subscription for access to a faction or all factions, sell GW approved Resin, have a community on helping clients print their models. Sort of like buying a computer printer now. However come to think of it, I realize GW will still find a way to screw the customer over, but if I could 3D print my Imperial Guard army, I would. No way I can invest 1.5k on models alone in this economy, without the ability to print more.
Fantastic video. To weigh in on the piracy aspect, and whether it hurts GW... My own opinion is that I think it hurts them far less than they think it will. For someone like myself who is a fringe player of 40k, I've owned several thousand points worth of 40k armies in the past (which has all been sold now), I have no desire to get back into the hobby as the models are cost prohibitive for me. However, I do own a 3d printer and if I could make my own armies for a fraction of the price and play again, or get into the modelling side of the hobby too, I may well do that. If I choose to go down that route, GW will be net positive from me as I'll be buying bits and pieces here and there, paints, rulebooks etc. etc., so without piracy they no longer have me as a customer, and with it, they have a customer that they otherwise would not.
Wow! this video is absolutely awsome! Its the most detailed and well themed video i've seen for 3D printing content. Please keep up the great work! :D
I have to say, after 15 years I'm looking at getting back into Warhammer, been doing piles of reading and watching video's. Stumbled across your channel while looking into 3D printers, which I didn't know existed. I really love all the video's you do, went through your whole back-log as well. Made a follower of me for sure! Keep up the fantastic work, and who knows, maybe I will get back into the hobby again.
3D printing is a really great way to enjoy the hobby these days, hope you take the plunge and thanks for checking out the channel!
I got my photon mono with a free bottle of resin off ebay for $190 in august...cheaper than a gw army box!
hey, thanks for featuring my work on this video! (I'm the maker of the sentinel model) love the result, seing the process and all those insights is really nice
How do I find the model?
Good job you did there.
@@maciejkoodziejczak5884 there are instructions on how to find the page in the description. we didnt want to include a direct link to avoid getting striked by GW ^^'
@@guillaumebolis7611 Yeah, thanks, I wrote the comment like 30% into the video and then he just shows the filename to look for. Thanks for a great piece of a model! :)
Thank you Guillaume for being a part of this video! Was awesome chatting with you as well as printing and painting up that epic sentinel 😎
Dude this video was so good. thanks for the super indepth process. I started something similar trying to make a imperial knights christmas box.
This was great! The interviews really gripped me in particular, and looking forward to more minis content :3
You are doing gods work, keep putting out awesome content - I am here for all of it. Very excited for the video comparing different resins!
i love this video. so refreshing from all the print and paint vids. keep up the good work!
happy to support mate :D my name on a guardsmen with a plasma gun heck yeah @38:18
Yes it is a great time, can I stop smiling now :O
You keep that smile on your face Guardsman!
Just discovered your channel and omg your video are so interesting, the advice on making and supporting files, 3D printing tips&tricks and even the painting "guide" parts of the video, ALL of this is really well thought, It's just seems so easy to follow and understand. Keep up the good works !
Awesome!
Thank you for the amazing content as always, I have actually bought a 3D Printer, and wash/ cure station for this very reason and your ability to give lots of info while keeping it fun and well edited and commentated so thank you again.
hey mate, what a great video, I like how much you displayed all the steps in your endeavor, it's quite unique and comforting when engaging in a task myself, as it gives a good playbook to tackling these technical/creative issues as they arise.
Super stoked that you gave the Conjure Sculpt resin a shot!
Another bang-up video! Definitely going to continue being subbed and look forward to your extensive comparison of resins in the coming year. it will be useful when I finally start 3d printing crispy minis.... and will then be updating your tier list!
Epic!
One of the most genuinely informative videos I've seen on 3d printing in a while, all wrapped up in my favorite hobby
Amazing video
That was incredible video! Extremely detailed and I learned so much! I just got my Eleagoo Saturn 2, still in the box. This really helps me figure out the kind of resin I need to look into and I learned a lot about exposure times. Thank you! I definitely am subbing!
Thanks!
Wonderful video. I enjoyed it very much, top models and such a cool in dept analysis with the 3D artists
WOW! Thanks especially for the interview with the cones guy. It's already obvious that the cones are kind of support test around 0.3mm but have him talk about it plus the resin examples with zmud and tenacious is gold!
Oh yes and btw, good paint job!
Interesting to hear the sculpters talk about why they make what they make, I don't see much off the 40k printing scene, but it looks huge, interesting to see 2 totally different POV's here
What an amazing video. I still have a lot of questions but I think I'm a bit more prepared to start my 3D printing journey.
Thank you!
Those interviews were really great and insightful. Great video that didn't feel long at all
This was by far the most beneficial video I've watched since joining the 3d printing universe. Thank you for taking the time to interview the experts. I really think you have a good thing going and should make a show doing the interviews. Keep up the great work by man!😊
Holy shit, I'm glad I found this video even though I tend to skip over anything focusing on GW stuff. Super insightful stuff on resin calibration, really helpful!
Great discussion with Ty from Tableflip - calibrating one of my printers at the moment and ran into the same scenario that I felt the Cones were giving me over-exposed settings. The guys on the Tableflip discord are really helpful. Looking forward to your vid on this.
Just got a photon mono x 6 k and I'm printing the sentinel for my first print. Love the channel thank you for all the support. Looking forward to the next video.
Don't stop making content ever!! love your approach and production value!!!!
Thanks, I'll do my best!
This video fills me with hope for the hobby.
About 11 months ago I developed RSI on the job working for GW, and they treated me awfully. I used to warn my manager about the incoming affect 3d printing was bound to have on the business and he used to snub me and tell me it'll never be as good.
Screw that company, they're 100% the biggest problem in the hobbyspace. Just like any other creative innovation, their models have always been iterations of models and ideas that came before them.
I don't believe they are going to be able to protect their IP because the truth on all that is out and spread wide.
The models you've printed look amazing, and having seen the 3d sculpting myself from inside HQ, probably of a higher detail and quality.
Sorry to hear about your experience at GW! I love what they've created with Warhammer but yeah it's hard to be a fan of the company. 3D printing is clearly the better fit for the hobby at this point.
Amazing video - especially the interwiew about the resin and cones of calibration. Just adding 2cents from anycubic wash and cure machine side (the small one, coming with photon mono 4k). The machine comes with an underlying reflecting/mirror foil disc (like a really thin cd) which does help with curing from the bottom, pretty ingenious.
Excellent video. Did a ton of resin testing and settled on using "8K" resin on my 4K printers. I like the detail I get from 8K resin. I use Phrozen's 8K resin mixed with 10% Tenacious. Calibrated with the Cones of Calibration and I can print minis reliably. With the money saved on not buying physical mini's, I invest that into good resin.
I've been am avid 3d printer for years and I gotta say this was an amazing video! Especially when you talked with the cones guy! I've been printing for years and I still learned a good amount! You easily earned my subscription
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video; really good stuff. Loved the " 'ow do guys" impression too :D
I enjoy these 3d army printing videos more then I should 😂 love it man
Holy shit, this was an educational video. These interviews and questions are incredible. Even after years of printing so much clicked for me in this video.
Awesome!
Great video, shame the upgrade to the old printer had some issues, but it's encouraging to hear about 4k retrofits in the pipeline; I had good results upgrading to a mono screen on my Creality LD-002R.
This is quite a stellar channel to find.
I came expecting to see neat warhammer prints.
Instead, I got some genuinely amazing knowledge on printing and troubleshooting, alongside the way these prints are made.
Well done. I'm shocked you kept it so engaging, too.
To answer the question of what is perfect exposure;
As I've always seen it, it's the ratio of reliability vs accuracy.
That ratio depends on the individual and their print. Some folk are fine with failures, some folk hate them. Some folk need a 30 minute print, and so will be willing to put up with failures so long as their bed is full of some successes at that speed. Sone folk have a five day print that would set them back ages if it fails.
These people need different ratios of reliability to accuracy.
Incidentally, this is the same thing for 'perfect supports'.
Maximum reliability for minimum damage.
Nobody likes support marks. But nobody likes failed prints either.
So compromises must be met, and balances struck.
Stoked you found your way here!
Great job man, love the advanced blender video as well!
By far one of the best 3D printing and miniature channels on TH-cam, no idea why you don't have more subscribers yet!
Thank you!!! Youve won a subscription from me ive wanted imperial guard for so long buts its expensive. Cant wait to get my own resin 3d setup
the cones guy had so much helpful insight. nailed the "how do guys"
so glad youre making this video, I've been thinking of making this but I don't have any filming set up or the time to learn to edit videos. But yeah you could have done this with the last army they released too the leagues of voltan. Keep up the series!
Love how thorough you are covering this stuff. If I may make a suggestion, I use SUNLU ABS like resin. That has been my go to resin for a good while now. Other than air bubbles in flat areas, I’d consider it the best resin I have ever used.
Awesome video! I've found that if I put the uncured bits in a small tub of water and cure them while they're suspended in water then it helps a lot. IDK if that occurs due to refraction aiding UV light hitting any little hidden parts or if the water helps in some other way. Might be worth testing though!
I think it's really great to have learned a lot about resin printing.
One HUGE THANK YOU for all your effort and sharing!
My pleasure!
Also thanks for supporting the sentinel! Most appreciated ❤
This is f**king good video, all the cameos made it 10/10
I bought the bigger anycubic wash and cure machine and its been brilliant. They have a mirrored sheet that goes down under the turn table aswell as the strip that has the UV lights has an arm that can turn up to 55° from memory so it's definitely made curing way way better
A ultrasonic waterbath does an amazing job at cleaning resin prints. Even better than a 'wash & cure station'.
Just stumbled here and tripped on a subscription. Great video mate. Haven't seen many great Aussie producers but this is a really good watch so far (~10m). Howdy from QLD.
Awesome, thank you! Hello from Sydney 😄
That interview with Ty was fascinating and I'm glad you decided to keep the whole segment instead of cutting it.
One of the big reasons why stl files come with errors is that they get corrupted during upload stage. I had bit of a back and forth with one creator on MMF where I basically checked their files for them as a customer and they kept reuploading the files and I kept finding errors such as straight up just holes in them that you can't fix with stuff like lychee because lychee doesn't think they're broken.
According to them the files were always fine on their end, so what they ended up having to do was download the files through MMF, then repair those and upload those and then they eventually stopped getting corrupted on upload.
Came for what I thought was going to be a funny video, stayed to learn.
Excellent video! Both entertaining and informative, as usual. If it helps anyone, I have had great success using Elegoo ABS-like grey resin mixed with roughly 10% of Siraya Tech’s Tenacious clear resin and using the One Page Rules recommended print settings for the original Elegoo Mars. Even after using these settings I still experienced the occasional failure, both with pre-supported and manually supported models, but now I always open the stl file in the Windows 3D Builder app to repair it before slicing and printing and I haven't had a failure (that wasn't related to inadequate supports) since.
I've seen other TH-camrs use geek gaming scenics for boards but this video is the one that convinced me to give it a go. Those bases are cool
i printed off the sentinel a day before finding this video - supported files worked great, thank you both
Great work, loved the video. Do you have link to how your fuse extractor was made please?
Honestly, i realy like the paint job. I don't know but it gives me like a grimdark comic style vibe.
Love ur vids, keep up the good work!
Lmao at the teaser ending. Another amazing vid!
Subbed because of those interviews. Taking the time to get in contact made all the difference to this video.
the conversation on calibrating for tension strength or dimensional accuracy was very enlightening, for minis I will aim for tension strength calibration with the cones
You're doing gods work with your research
had the necrons void dragon printed and painted and brought it to a game at a warhammer store before it was available for sale
Holy shit the flexibility of that resin is amazing! Good video.
YESSSSSS I'M SO EXCITED FOR THE NEW YEAR VIDEO
17:14 with some TUP in the background, what a real man
Great video, did you ever do the resin comparison video? Theres a few water washable abs like resins that look interesting
Very well put-together video.
Best video and models yet, keep up the fantastic work
Thanks! I shall do my best
@@OnceinaSixSide That chat about designing for dimensional accuracy versus tensile strength was the best info I've gotten on 3d printing, you did an excellent job with the interview
Came for the guard proxies, stayed for the calibration lecture :) Im a design engineer and one of the things we balance in a design is the needed strength for a part to keep the stresses within acceptable values :) so often we have to adjust the design so the part would be strong enough for its intended use
Omg I'm so interested for next years video on your findings
As someone who just got into wh40k near the end of 8th edition with Imperial Guard, I don't really have a problem with 3d printing and attempting to recreate models that gw themselves are putting out. The sheer fact of the matter is that GW has some of the highest profit margins of any company, their products are remarkably cheap to create, and they sell them for some of the highest prices in the industry. That combined with their routine decisions to rather make the game worse than to allow other companies to make models for older units and options that were still in the rules but not made by gw anymore, as well as recent decisions regarding raising their prices for retailers and local game stores to acquire their products makes me not really worried if 3d printing is hurting GW anymore since they themselves seem so focused on improving their margins while providing none of those savings to their customers at all.
I absolutely hate that GW, or Warhammer as they're called now, are so harsh on stopping older models that THEY DON'T MAKE ANYMORE! Like why? It does Nothing to reduce their profits.
Meanwhile CGL with Battletech included a flyer for 3 different mini makers who do old or not currently in production mechs in my beginner box. Metals, old plastics, and plastics that are just currently not in production (New models but no current factory line)
Awsome video, mate. Looking forward to your next one.
Nice to hear an Aussie voice discussing 3D printing.
G'day!
@@OnceinaSixSide I don't have a printer yet, but your vids are a treasure trove of info. Ta.
hilarious vid man. I don't even play this game or build models and this was a blast to watch.
16:26 Yes that sound is normal. It is the bottom spinny part of the machine hitting against a piece of a printed mini. Just make sure no small parts are sticking through the bars at the bottom and the sound will go away.
16:48 Well I should’ve watched longer 😂
Cones part is pretty interesting. My feeling is the story only holds up is there is 1 proper standard how models are pre-supported (thickness etc.). But in the end the assumption is, as long as you keep overexposing more and more, in the end you won't get a misprint. But yeah... you sacrifce dimensional accuracy.
If you don't care about dimensional accuracy then, apart from maybe bigger build plates and a faster printer you don't need the expensive 4K/8K stuff. You throw it away anyway, to a certain degree.
Other way around would be more interesting --> if you dial in your printer for dimensional accuracy --> then print the cones --> they teach you what kind of supports would work --> that way you can make sure your own supports are OK.
Of course at the sacrifice that you need to put some work in yourself instead of click and print.
So it's a different approach aiming for a different goal. But still not sure given pre-supported model support variations how universal it actually is.
I was fairly appalled when I saw the new Guard army set, couple of squads, command team, a sentinel and 3 field guns, the old set 2 squads, a command team, a heavy weapons squad a russ and a chimera.... The field guns are equal to two separate vehicle kits... really! This is the reason my current Guard army is being built from 3rd party models.
That’s a great information about printing
I recomend taking off the support of the big things before putting into the wash and cure, you will have better cleaning results!, nice challenge btw!
Another oustanding video mate.
The amount of work and information you get through in every video contiunes to be staggering.
The discussion around the variables that lead to the degree of dimensional accuracy acheived in prints was super interesting.
I still think there is huge value to be gained in the minirater project. The issue of specific resins and printers the customer is using is relevant and worth considering as a factor for sure, but IMO this should be secondary to addressing the absoulte basics of unsupported islands, file organisation, or files with errors etc.
Keep up the great work mate! Loving each new installment.
Do I hear the influcence of the Risk of Rain soundtrack on the music at the 15:20 mark?
Appreciate that! I'm unfamiliar with that soundtrack, I'll have to check it out!
The base ready mix was great
Another variable to consider is your wash times and bath temp. Note I use the water washable stuff now, but letting it sit for a little longer will soften the supports right up when you find they are a little tough - I sometimes see this if I don't pull them from the build plate right away.
Also for the cure station the basket is typical of most of the models out there and small bits can fall out or ends stick out but your solution is the typical one to just find some mesh. For the curing bit, anycubics ones have a relective plate that goes in under the tray - you could probably just put some mylar or tinfoil with a hole cut out to reflect underneith.
Loved the video, glad I subscribed, can you tell me of you found anything in your trawling of the web that just said winterized army regiment
Hmm nothing comes to mind though I'm sure there will be something out there! Worst case scenario you can always achieve that look in the paint job and basing
@@OnceinaSixSide true but i want to try and make them a little different visually but thanks anyway
GW should look at the 3D artists as a shot across their bow. Their exorbitant prices had to be endured because they had the monopoly but not now. They should be really getting around the table with the shareholders and having a grown up conversation about the prices they are charging.
The artillery is a version of the nebelwerfer so GW are nicking ideas from history too.
This video was very insightful, I think that's the right word?. I also really enjoyed the interviews😃
Also, yeah, having a wash&cure station is a total gamechanger. I got the big one from anycubic to go with my Mono X, because it just lets me chuck in the build plate completely (which, nicely, also cleans off the plate itself). Post processing was never easier than this. It also cures better, has this little part on top that angles down, and a reflective sheet that goes under the turntable to reflect the UV light back up and under the parts.
I started out on Vallejo for airbrush priming. It's not bad but adhesion could be better. I've heard good things about stynlrez, and then a ton of bad things due to freezing in storage/shipping. I passed them over for Pro Acryl prime from a reputable local store.
Hi, great video! Sorry if you do mention this in the video but what size bases are used for the heavy weapons batterys? Thanks