600,000 cars sold, say 50,000 per vehicle, all remitted to overseas manufacturers. Bloody well done. 30 billion dollars thrown away and not a single manufacturing job in sight. Just more ming molls and spiv salesmen. I love Australian leadership.
@@trevornewman1462 Plenty of servicing and repair jobs though. Australian car manufacturers couldn't compete thanks to the overheads and unions. Plus we haven't had a true Australian manufacturer for decades. Once the government handouts ceased, they left pretty quickly.
@@grantleyhughesEven China subsidies its manufacturing, just look at its ev cars flooding the market, but whatever, screw your own people, it’s the Australian way
As an Australian manufacturer I mourn the loss of the Australian car industry. Although it was foreign owned. Both major parties need to prioritise incentives for local manufacturers. I see the current government is making noise in that direction. Let’s see how that goes.
As always a completely unmissable Cadogan assault on the ears, delivered with consummate ease by the Godfather of prose. Mate you are the BEST. Nobody comes close. 👏👏👏👏👏
Queensland health have replaced their fleet of 30 ICE vehicles with 30 EV's. They employ someone to rotate the vehicles to be charged on the one charger they have. No one wants to use these cars so they use their own ICE cars and claim the milage. So the EV's sit in the car park being rotated back and forth to be charged. Is this progress?.
@@RichWithTech All brands have fallen recently due to a huge bump in prices but Ireland is a car dependent country so we'll keep buying them. Best sellers in order - Toyota,VW, Skoda, Hyundai, Kia, Nissan, Audi, BMW, Ford, Peugot. Honda is 30th.
@@McRcFly It's not me that needs to hurry up. The vehicle has been on order for two months and still no sign on it. I told her that she should get an MX 5. "The bonnet's too long", FFS.
If I want a touch screen I lean forward to the large glass thing in front of the steering wheel. And every rental car on airport runs in the last few years has had unfathomable controls that impair driving safety and mean inability to work the radio or play with temperature while driving for the first 100 miles. I see my 1980s cars as better long term bets than my more recent electronics and plastics infested vehicle purchases that are now around 10 years old.
16:05 According to "Drive", Polestar sales were 950 for the first 6 months, which would put them at -17.2%. The big question seems to be - will Geely keep funding Polestar? 17:17 The Mazda sales drop is almost entirely due to dropping the CX-9, and replacing it with the much more expensive and slower selling CX-90. "Premium" strategy..... means lower volumes. They also sold fewer BT-50's - people are buying the real thing (the Isuzu) instead, now that supply issues have eased 17:28 Mitsubishi's growth is due to the ASX and Eclipse Cross. Both are up ~40%. The Triton is only up ~4%. Elly May!
I don't know what Elly May you're talking about, but my childhood crush Elly May Clampett had serious money. That kind of thing helps to encourage a mature perspective on real beauty,
@@DreDresChapters VHS wasn't an upgrade over Betamax though and was actually inferior to it. Same as an EV is inferior in many ways to an ICE car. If you're satisfied with your downgrade enjoy.
And yet Tesla shares spiked as much as 10% on Tuesday after second-quarter deliveries beat estimates. They delivered 444,000 units during the period, exceeding estimates of 438,000. The market is crazy right now, more so than normal.
Unless an EV can do what my diesel Ute can do. (800-1000km’s on a tank while loaded, fill the tank everywhere, fill the tank in under 5mins) they will never be an option. When I saw what driver annoyance crap and the adblue requirement in new utes, I rushed out and dropped my money on a new Hilux…
I will stay with my 94 Hilux as when her haed quit at 490K she still had the factory marks on her internals so I replace the head with new rings and she does what I need her to do.
Very interesting to see how used EV trade-in’s go for value, and is their any stats showing do owners trade a EV to purchase another EV or go back to a internal combustion vehicle 🚗 🇦🇺
EV owners are looking to trade in on new EV’s. However depreciation is killing them. Many EV (Tesla) owners are far too upside down in their finance to make updating viable. The samples I have seen have been on 2-3 year old Tesla’s. EV values sink like a sub full of millionaires.
Hi John, I would like your comment/insight into the disappearance of the (~$20k) entry level models from most manufacturers. I am talking about the cheap first new car in the inventory of most brands.
I'd be wary of the novated lease option combined with the dramatic depreciation values. At the end of the agreed term, you'll have the residual balloon payment (set now) compared to whatever the resale value of your EV is going to be in X years.
All my cars are from 1998 to 2006. I love this era, when Mercedes were bulletproof and small cars were light enough to be fun around a racetrack without all the elctronics to keep them from crashing. But they had airbags and crush zones so are safe enough, but without all that lane assist blind spot bullshit. And depreciation hit the bottom so all of them are heading up in value. I just don't see the joy in new cars. Even the Ml320 I bought before the floods to brave the hideous dirt roads we had to use has kind of won me over, and in SA can be put on historic rego for $80 a year. Insurance is cheaper, even for my fully tricked out W221. And AMG still had the na 6.2 thaat sounds so good.
You’re right there. I just got a w211 e55 and I’m very much enjoying it. Everything has a button to activate it and there’s no electronic interference, keeping me in my lane or telling me I’m going too fast and it’s reliable as well.
@@mynameisnobody211 A beautiful car. I had a W210 E55 for ages. The sound was so good I upped it to a W212 E63 6.2. They're both amazing cars to drive and like a sledgehammer. There are faster cars out there, but the V8 AMGs are just something special. Have a W221 too for touring. Won't be selling either car.
One other comment I read sums it up. The biggest winner finance companies. Back in the day before HP and leasing people had to save and buy things. But those things were way cheaper in relation to earnings. If you made them too dear few could ever buy. Now think of a number, double it, and wack it on HP. Spend a large part of your life paying extortionate interest. Somehow I never got into that.
Today, a couple of Toyota SUVs removed themselves from the fleet near my place. A RAV4 T boned a Landcruiser. Both looked to be write offs. Thanks to the bags, fortunately no one seriously injured.
Interesting in EVs as in NZ they are down about 80% YTD corresponding with the end of incentives and the subsequent introduction of road user charges. Last year in Australia light, the Tesla Model Y was the third best selling model outright. This year it isn’t in the top 15
Wasnt this bit of a case of, especially for toyota, deliveries being seen as sales. Where the vehicle was actually purchased a year ago, but only now being delivered?
The Tesla Model 3 line-up currently starts at $54,900 for the Model 3...... 2023 Toyota Corolla average price is $22,110 The NSW Government says applications can be lodged until 30 June 2024. The rebate is $3,000 for battery electric and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. Is it just me and my ignorance or is the maths here not mathing with whats being suggested about a Tesla and Corolla being "about the the same price" when taking into account the rebate??
Anyone thinking of buying a used BEV say 6 -13 years old, don't just don't. I just watched a video about a Tesla that had a battery/fuse error code (they didn't state the code) however. They removed the battery pack and found the fuse cover with critical rust and condensation inside the compartment that was open to the internals of the cell packs. The battery pack had an additional battery pack module to the main unit They open that and it too had condensation and corrosion on some of the cell packs and terminal straps. Their solution was to blow heated air through the pack to dry it out and reseal it. Problem is they didn't/couldn't open the main battery pack so they don't know if all moisture was gone and what the state of the cell casings were. The cooling pipes that they could see in the battery also had signs of corrosion. This could easily be the used EV that ends up on the car lot. The problem is if all the moisture was not removed and the pack hermetically sealed then the cells will continue to corrode and the battery fail and what type of failure. A lights out or a Space Shuttle Columbia level of failure. By the time a BEV is that old the chances of getting a fresh and brand new battery pack are going to be rare and expensive and who knows what corners will be cut in the after market versions.
@@davidwild66ah, I enjoy listening to this content rather than watching so I missed the list popping up. Mind you I can barely make anything out on that list.
A NSW woman is taking Tesla to NCAT she brought a used model S ( = shit. ) for 90,000$ & had to have it towed 500k twice. Has at least 12 problems with the model shit.
I don't know how it is in Aus, but in the US, the government needs to change it's "CAFE" rules for manufacturer fleet "gas milage" so that it no longer favours tanks and SUVs. People want to be safe, but they also want to keep their money, so paying less for the vehicle and less to run it, aka, more smaller vehicles that are not drowning in a sea of 4 ton SUVs. Cherry climbed 166%, on how many sales?
i been saying for a while the way we are taxed is the problem , these numbers show i am wrong and the government is right . i am now getting ready for even more uneven tax's coming , as the numbers prove un even tax works
The Koreans, especially Kia, seem to have significantly longer wait times than many other brands. I wonder what this would have done to the sales rankings if they could have delivered more of their models on time.
It has to be said, I have owned multiple brands, the funny thing is, the only brand to have a major failure was Toyota. Big end bearing spun ( 1989 2.8 D Hilux) We bought a 2014 Jeep KL Cherokee new, never missed a beat in the 110 000 km we owned it, best car I have ever driven. Only sold it for a brand new KIA Sportage GT Line.
See I’m the opposite.. ive had both the big money waster and the 4 circles of regret, and yet my Japanese cars have been cheaper to run, and more reliable in the long term. One of the jap cars was more fun than the other two euros combined.
@@chrissmith2114 I disagree. Toyota wanted to be a top seller and dropped the ball with quality. Those DPF issues for example. And the V6 engine in the US. It's only their advertising telling you they're great. I won't buy another non Japanese Toyota. Maybe a Lexus.
Tesla Model Y sales seems to be as dead in Australia as in EU. At least in Finland the drop is similarly tad below 50% YoY in H1. And in May Model Y sales dragged behind similarly in the continent wide statistics.
@@asajelfs8170keep cheering for them as their market share is shrinking. Cheerleaders for Tesla use to say it was an issue for supply that reflected their numbers. Not the case now, what is the excuse? Cheerleaders use to say they will bury Toyota, will that be the case? The reality is that Tesla is a major EV auto maker, but will not be the biggest ever. They got lost with the CT distraction. They need to get that model 2 out or the Chinese will fill that bottom end of the market. Cheerleaders thought EV will take over in 20s. The reality is that ICE vehicles are here for decades to come. Convince me that India, Uganda, Bolivia will have EVs in this decade as the majority of their cars. This reflects the world. It is a transition away from ICEs. But it is many decades to go and EVs may not be the only tech in play.
Well done on the ABC news radio segment John. It was very entertaining listening to you suppress the urge to blurt out references to trouser teepees and Electic Jesus (PBUH).
My Miniature Schnauzer asked me to protest you using "dog" in a derogatory sense. He reckons anything with a dog descriptor should be regarded as well made and totally reliable.
Considering Tesla was only founded in 2003 and the model Y in 2019 its pretty impressive they now sit in the top 10 for Australian market for a battery only car. I think in the near future you'll only see battery and hybrid cars.
I can't help but wonder why some of the brands bother. They sell so few there can hardly be any profit in them but more importantly why do people bother with some of the more obscure brands when there is no dealer network and even in places where a dealer can be found there is no incentive for them to keep parts as they sell so few of the brand and any model. I expect to see a winnowing of the market over the next few years as NVES and falling sales for some brands make it inevitable that they will leave the market leaving those who have bought their cars with vehicles that are worth nothing.
@@benchapman5247 I had never heard of that brand until a few days ago but I can see why you might say that. It is not a brand for the mainstream family buyer who seem to prefer about 5 brands being Toyota, Ford, Kia, Hyundai and Mazda where as Skoda, Proton, Cupra and others that have sold poorly and whose sales are declining continue to offer cars here in the forlorn hope that sales might one day surge. There are a host of Chinese brands intending to offer cars here for sale and once they get the sales and the after sales right it will be all over for many of those brands I've mentioned and others that are or soon will be struggling.
Some buyers such as buyers of French cars are only thinking as far as how arty they will look to their friends and never get around to thinking about the potential problems you have mentioned as possible shortcomings. Who needs spare parts when you can leave it up to the guy that will be worrying about fixing it - whoever that might be - they don’t worry about that either 😂
Mary Anne always made me feel funny as a kid… couldn’t figure out why? But in the words of Chad Morgan… “Oooo if I could just go back, and know what I know now”!
Not sure how many EV’s Polestar sells but this is likely part of, if not the reason for the 0.8% reduction in EV sales. Just something to consider anyway. Seems counter productive not to list your sales when you’re trying to show a growing market share.
A little light on analysis in parts here, John. Toyota's ostensibly impressive growth is largely reversion to the mean following a supply-constrained first half of 2023. Toyota's H1'24 sales in Australia are near identical to H1'22 sales: 121301 against 121377. Meanwhile, Chery's apparent stratospheric growth owes in part to the brand only having arrived in Australia in April 2023, such that the YoY figure of ~166% growth is comparing six months of sales (Jan-Jun '24) against three (April-Jun '23). The brand's "real" growth YoY, i.e. comparing Q2 with Q2, is ~48%.
Could`nt find a later stat. From Aircraft in Australia, 11 116 gigagrams of CO2 equivalent in 2018-19 to 5 955 gigagrams of CO2 equivalent in 2020-21, while road vehicle emissions fell by roughly 3 per cent over the same period. The 2024 stat should be even lower now and aircraft emissions up.We Have Politicians trying to make us buy polluting EVs whilst they crisscross the country making more greenhouse emissions. They don`t travel green. Double standards in my book. EVs are a scourge on the world.
Hey John wondering if you could do a video explaining the differences between full ev, phev and hybrid vehicles cause I've noticed there's a lit of people out there very confused about it. Just had an argument with a fella who's convinced a phev is full ev and no amount of explaining it could convince him otherwise. The scientific illiteracy in society is absolutely appalling...
I love my Mary Anne Sportage. Best car we've had. Service Centre guys are awesome. The hubby actually enjoys getting the Sportage serviced because he can talk dirty ... Sorry talk technical 😅... With the mechanics while he sips his free coffee. 😂
“vibes-based reporting on the demise of EV sales look silly - global EV sales could hit 17 million in 2024, meaning more than one in five cars sold worldwide will be electric.” - forbs. I’d love to see Model Y get most sold global but the majority will be waiting for the entire update like already posted model 3 (2025)
@@Ray-dv1md Bogus is how you use good sales than yeah lmao. China leads on everything that requires education without price & ignorance. Coal pollution is high there but they also have some of the largest highest solar parks in the world that I’d never just ignorantly sleep on. Take the average car that gets 25 mpg & calculate the emissions rate of (8.89kg) per gallon over 150k miles, you’d exhaust 51.3 metric tons of carbon, enough to create manufacturing & installing to produce 4,135,380 mi of a 100kwh model S for fun play of words that creating something has a cost as. Green energy adoption is so important to this world, always gets overlooked to the dude that things it’s cool whipping a 14mpg mustang & removes that cat for extra sound. Difference between China & U.S. is pride + ignorance. Chinese take pride in education & you can tell that to most Asian parents lmao
Going to be interesting to see what happens to EV sales when the dozen or so new jobbies are added to the forecourt over the next 6 months. No need to queue?
I wonder why Toyota is crushing everyone else in Australia and NZ. They have an image of reliability, but aren't particularly special in any other way. Maybe that's all people that can afford to buy new care about at the moment.
600,000 cars sold, say 50,000 per vehicle, all remitted to overseas manufacturers. Bloody well done. 30 billion dollars thrown away and not a single manufacturing job in sight. Just more ming molls and spiv salesmen. I love Australian leadership.
@@trevornewman1462 Plenty of servicing and repair jobs though. Australian car manufacturers couldn't compete thanks to the overheads and unions. Plus we haven't had a true Australian manufacturer for decades. Once the government handouts ceased, they left pretty quickly.
@@grantleyhughesevery other country is subsidized for Thier manufacturing, and they have unions too.
@@grantleyhughesEven China subsidies its manufacturing, just look at its ev cars flooding the market, but whatever, screw your own people, it’s the Australian way
Buy the cheapest vehicle you can from a friendly regime, and spend the rest buying land.
As an Australian manufacturer I mourn the loss of the Australian car industry.
Although it was foreign owned.
Both major parties need to prioritise incentives for local manufacturers.
I see the current government is making noise in that direction.
Let’s see how that goes.
As always a completely unmissable Cadogan assault on the ears, delivered with consummate ease by the Godfather of prose. Mate you are the BEST. Nobody comes close. 👏👏👏👏👏
totally agree Dude 👏👏👏👏
Brilliant
Queensland health have replaced their fleet of 30 ICE vehicles with 30 EV's. They employ someone to rotate the vehicles to be charged on the one charger they have. No one wants to use these cars so they use their own ICE cars and claim the milage. So the EV's sit in the car park being rotated back and forth to be charged. Is this progress?.
Pretty clearly not...
That's just brilliant.
At some point reality will intrude
Job growth
Looks great on paper, when the PR agency write$ the report$! 😅
Honda Ireland sold one car in total in June 2024.
It was a Jazz in case you were curious.
Wow! They make so many boring cars now that are also expensive. But even so that's quite alarming! How did other brands do there?
@@RichWithTech All brands have fallen recently due to a huge bump in prices but Ireland is a car dependent country so we'll keep buying them. Best sellers in order - Toyota,VW, Skoda, Hyundai, Kia, Nissan, Audi, BMW, Ford, Peugot. Honda is 30th.
Is a Jazz a Fit? Gone from the U.S. after 2020
@@timothykeith1367 Yes, it costs 30,000 Euro in Ireland! The Civic is 50,000 Euro!
I'd rather buy an old Merc and a shed load of tools.
@@VictorMaxol You'd be needing those tools from what I hear! Unless it's a *really* old Merc those things will outlive the sun
I want Mary-Anne. My wife wants a Jimny. My wife's getting a Jimny. I'm not getting Mary-Anne. There is no justice in this world.
Perhaps your wife will.....find a way to thank you to take that particular pain away.
Better hurry up on that jimny.
Apparently suzuki is going electric and fast.
@@markh.6687 I maintain hope.
@@McRcFly It's not me that needs to hurry up. The vehicle has been on order for two months and still no sign on it. I told her that she should get an MX 5. "The bonnet's too long", FFS.
Offended? No. Just relieved I'm hanging on to my 13 year old car. The current market lacks appeal.
Mary Ann, it was always Mary Ann, dude!
Yep, I'm staying with my 21 year old, perfectly suitable mode of transport.
@@iffracem And you can work on them yourself with a decent computer and some TH-cam tutorials.
@@grantleyhughes13 years ago you wouldn't say that. Funny how that works.
If I want a touch screen I lean forward to the large glass thing in front of the steering wheel. And every rental car on airport runs in the last few years has had unfathomable controls that impair driving safety and mean inability to work the radio or play with temperature while driving for the first 100 miles. I see my 1980s cars as better long term bets than my more recent electronics and plastics infested vehicle purchases that are now around 10 years old.
Ginger for mine was a definite. Then yep, you had to throw Elly May into the mix! You bastard!
Outstanding, John. Delivering on the goods week after week after week.
Thank you!
16:05 According to "Drive", Polestar sales were 950 for the first 6 months, which would put them at -17.2%. The big question seems to be - will Geely keep funding Polestar?
17:17 The Mazda sales drop is almost entirely due to dropping the CX-9, and replacing it with the much more expensive and slower selling CX-90. "Premium" strategy..... means lower volumes. They also sold fewer BT-50's - people are buying the real thing (the Isuzu) instead, now that supply issues have eased
17:28 Mitsubishi's growth is due to the ASX and Eclipse Cross. Both are up ~40%. The Triton is only up ~4%.
Elly May!
I don't know what Elly May you're talking about, but my childhood crush Elly May Clampett had serious money. That kind of thing helps to encourage a mature perspective on real beauty,
I don't recall an 'Elly May' in the Waltons.
I think EV'S will be like the BETAMAX video recorder, was very popular in the beginning but lost out to VHS. Love your work John
I feel that same way about gas cars🤣 who the hell never thought we’d upgrade from oil
Great point I like it 👍
@@DreDresChapters VHS wasn't an upgrade over Betamax though and was actually inferior to it. Same as an EV is inferior in many ways to an ICE car. If you're satisfied with your downgrade enjoy.
1985 mazda 626 hatch brilliant car 685thousand Ks some repairs sold in 2005 still going hard
It would be interesting to know what amount of the EV sales are government/ state/ federal/ local councils.
And yet Tesla shares spiked as much as 10% on Tuesday after second-quarter deliveries beat estimates. They delivered 444,000 units during the period, exceeding estimates of 438,000. The market is crazy right now, more so than normal.
Sales internally maybe?
I have a 1951 chev stepside truck with a small block in it, I’m happy. 2:25
Unless an EV can do what my diesel Ute can do. (800-1000km’s on a tank while loaded, fill the tank everywhere, fill the tank in under 5mins) they will never be an option.
When I saw what driver annoyance crap and the adblue requirement in new utes, I rushed out and dropped my money on a new Hilux…
I learned about yutes from My Cousin Vinny
Mary Ann, always was always will be.
Thanks for your comedic and insightful reporting:
Steve
I will stay with my 94 Hilux as when her haed quit at 490K she still had the factory marks on her internals so I replace the head with new rings and she does what I need her to do.
I’ll keep my 98 Corolla too.
Good for you. You're a minority .
EV sales totally collapsed in NZ after the clean car discount was removed, as it should have
@@michaelwebber4033 Yep. Taxpayers shouldn't be funding expensive EVs for people who can afford them already.
Very interesting to see how used EV trade-in’s go for value, and is their any stats showing do owners trade a EV to purchase another EV or go back to a internal combustion vehicle 🚗 🇦🇺
EV owners are looking to trade in on new EV’s.
However depreciation is killing them. Many EV (Tesla) owners are far too upside down in their finance to make updating viable. The samples I have seen have been on 2-3 year old Tesla’s.
EV values sink like a sub full of millionaires.
I have talked to lots of people who have got a Kia Sportage GT second hand. An have never looked back. Better then most new cars.
I’m guessing not a single one has joined the Australian Hyundai/KIA engine failures group on FB yet
@@indeepeterhopwood8106 I was told that Only in America!
Hi John, I would like your comment/insight into the disappearance of the (~$20k) entry level models from most manufacturers. I am talking about the cheap first new car in the inventory of most brands.
Lot have gone due to ancap safety requirements with technology , cheaper models don't qualify as don't have the tech
Elly May but Ginger definitely would.
I'd be wary of the novated lease option combined with the dramatic depreciation values.
At the end of the agreed term, you'll have the residual balloon payment (set now) compared to whatever the resale value of your EV is going to be in X years.
Depends if your going to keep it and drive it into the ground or sell and lease again.
So much poo to choose, it's like a smorgasbord of sewage for a family of flies.
Your statement is both repugnant to the senses, yet well said nonetheless.
The early EV adopter (aka Fanbois) era is over. Now the other 92% of the car driving public need to be convinced they are a good idea. Good luck.
All my cars are from 1998 to 2006. I love this era, when Mercedes were bulletproof and small cars were light enough to be fun around a racetrack without all the elctronics to keep them from crashing. But they had airbags and crush zones so are safe enough, but without all that lane assist blind spot bullshit. And depreciation hit the bottom so all of them are heading up in value. I just don't see the joy in new cars. Even the Ml320 I bought before the floods to brave the hideous dirt roads we had to use has kind of won me over, and in SA can be put on historic rego for $80 a year. Insurance is cheaper, even for my fully tricked out W221. And AMG still had the na 6.2 thaat sounds so good.
You’re right there.
I just got a w211 e55 and I’m very much enjoying it.
Everything has a button to activate it and there’s no electronic interference, keeping me in my lane or telling me I’m going too fast and it’s reliable as well.
@@mynameisnobody211 A beautiful car. I had a W210 E55 for ages. The sound was so good I upped it to a W212 E63 6.2. They're both amazing cars to drive and like a sledgehammer. There are faster cars out there, but the V8 AMGs are just something special. Have a W221 too for touring. Won't be selling either car.
One other comment I read sums it up. The biggest winner finance companies. Back in the day before HP and leasing people had to save and buy things. But those things were way cheaper in relation to earnings. If you made them too dear few could ever buy. Now think of a number, double it, and wack it on HP. Spend a large part of your life paying extortionate interest. Somehow I never got into that.
I have a 1951 chev stepside truck with a small block in it, I’m happy.
Today, a couple of Toyota SUVs removed themselves from the fleet near my place. A RAV4 T boned a Landcruiser. Both looked to be write offs. Thanks to the bags, fortunately no one seriously injured.
Its been 7 years moite, you still bringing up the past like a woman scorned x
Unlike a woman scorned, he is scornfully humorous
Interesting in EVs as in NZ they are down about 80% YTD corresponding with the end of incentives and the subsequent introduction of road user charges. Last year in Australia light, the Tesla Model Y was the third best selling model outright. This year it isn’t in the top 15
Can't find a house, but vehicle sales are up: People are living in their cars.
More likely the people with multiple houses are buying multiple cars so their garages doesn't look so empty
People are only living in cars that LAST, not in ones that self combust while you are asleep 😉
Wasnt this bit of a case of, especially for toyota, deliveries being seen as sales. Where the vehicle was actually purchased a year ago, but only now being delivered?
The Tesla Model 3 line-up currently starts at $54,900 for the Model 3...... 2023 Toyota Corolla average price is $22,110
The NSW Government says applications can be lodged until 30 June 2024. The rebate is $3,000 for battery electric and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
Is it just me and my ignorance or is the maths here not mathing with whats being suggested about a Tesla and Corolla being "about the the same price" when taking into account the rebate??
John's likely referring to the out of pocket costs on a novated lease.
@@rodneypalmer2021 what % of the car buying population does that equate to?
@@aaron4387anyone who can afford to lease a car and park it off street so it can be charged at home
Anyone thinking of buying a used BEV say 6 -13 years old, don't just don't.
I just watched a video about a Tesla that had a battery/fuse error code (they didn't state the code) however. They removed the battery pack and found the fuse cover with critical rust and condensation inside the compartment that was open to the internals of the cell packs. The battery pack had an additional battery pack module to the main unit They open that and it too had condensation and corrosion on some of the cell packs and terminal straps. Their solution was to blow heated air through the pack to dry it out and reseal it. Problem is they didn't/couldn't open the main battery pack so they don't know if all moisture was gone and what the state of the cell casings were. The cooling pipes that they could see in the battery also had signs of corrosion. This could easily be the used EV that ends up on the car lot.
The problem is if all the moisture was not removed and the pack hermetically sealed then the cells will continue to corrode and the battery fail and what type of failure. A lights out or a Space Shuttle Columbia level of failure.
By the time a BEV is that old the chances of getting a fresh and brand new battery pack are going to be rare and expensive and who knows what corners will be cut in the after market versions.
Mahindra always manages to avoid being on this list.
Is is because nobody cares?
Because they sell spectacularly poorly?
Probably why JLR, Fiat, Peugeot, Renault, Nissan etc is not there either.
@@cthorno2991 Those brands are on the list JC put up at 14:00
@@davidwild66ah, I enjoy listening to this content rather than watching so I missed the list popping up. Mind you I can barely make anything out on that list.
@cthorno2991 change the resolution of the video
"Goody gumdrops!" - haven't heard that since I was a kid, many, many years ago. Thanks JC.
A NSW woman is taking Tesla to NCAT she brought a used model S ( = shit. ) for 90,000$ & had to have it towed 500k twice. Has at least 12 problems with the model shit.
I don't know how it is in Aus, but in the US, the government needs to change it's "CAFE" rules for manufacturer fleet "gas milage" so that it no longer favours tanks and SUVs. People want to be safe, but they also want to keep their money, so paying less for the vehicle and less to run it, aka, more smaller vehicles that are not drowning in a sea of 4 ton SUVs.
Cherry climbed 166%, on how many sales?
I always had a thing for Mary-Ann, when I was much, much younger.
Me too...
Happy Gilligan
well done again. great summing up of the market.
Love to see ev stats on Gov vs private purchases.
Is there a split for Private vs business sales? Given so many shit box utes are available as tax write offs it would be interesting to know.
i been saying for a while the way we are taxed is the problem , these numbers show i am wrong and the government is right .
i am now getting ready for even more uneven tax's coming , as the numbers prove un even tax works
The Koreans, especially Kia, seem to have significantly longer wait times than many other brands. I wonder what this would have done to the sales rankings if they could have delivered more of their models on time.
Sucker born every minute.
It has to be said, I have owned multiple brands, the funny thing is, the only brand to have a major failure was Toyota. Big end bearing spun ( 1989 2.8 D Hilux)
We bought a 2014 Jeep KL Cherokee new, never missed a beat in the 110 000 km we owned it, best car I have ever driven.
Only sold it for a brand new KIA Sportage GT Line.
The stats prove that your experience was an outlier with Toyota quality...
See I’m the opposite.. ive had both the big money waster and the 4 circles of regret, and yet my Japanese cars have been cheaper to run, and more reliable in the long term. One of the jap cars was more fun than the other two euros combined.
@@chrissmith2114 I disagree. Toyota wanted to be a top seller and dropped the ball with quality. Those DPF issues for example. And the V6 engine in the US. It's only their advertising telling you they're great. I won't buy another non Japanese Toyota. Maybe a Lexus.
The old 2.8d needed oil changed at a lower interval than 5000klm.
@@grantleyhughes If you want real problems with a vehicle, get something German....
You mentioned that you wanted a Isuzu Jimny, but you would never own one. Why?
I'm in the US and can't buy one in spite of wanting one as well.
Jimny is a Suzuki
O might 0
I see Rolls Royce sales were up by a decent 20%
Stats........
Lambo and Lotus, too...
So sales went up from 5 to 6.
Some fascinating facts on sales there
How our buying of cars have changed
Tesla Model Y sales seems to be as dead in Australia as in EU. At least in Finland the drop is similarly tad below 50% YoY in H1. And in May Model Y sales dragged behind similarly in the continent wide statistics.
Tesla sp rose 10 percent last nite, you are talking crap.
Don't think it's tesla, more like the man child Eron Musk.
@@asajelfs8170keep cheering for them as their market share is shrinking.
Cheerleaders for Tesla use to say it was an issue for supply that reflected their numbers. Not the case now, what is the excuse?
Cheerleaders use to say they will bury Toyota, will that be the case?
The reality is that Tesla is a major EV auto maker, but will not be the biggest ever. They got lost with the CT distraction. They need to get that model 2 out or the Chinese will fill that bottom end of the market.
Cheerleaders thought EV will take over in 20s. The reality is that ICE vehicles are here for decades to come.
Convince me that India, Uganda, Bolivia will have EVs in this decade as the majority of their cars. This reflects the world.
It is a transition away from ICEs. But it is many decades to go and EVs may not be the only tech in play.
Well done on the ABC news radio segment John. It was very entertaining listening to you suppress the urge to blurt out references to trouser teepees and Electic Jesus (PBUH).
Thank you. I just slot a different filter for the MSM. (I've been live on radio for thousands of hours.)
My Miniature Schnauzer asked me to protest you using "dog" in a derogatory sense. He reckons anything with a dog descriptor should be regarded as well made and totally reliable.
Nissan is doing brilliantly. Moving up over 30%.
Considering Tesla was only founded in 2003 and the model Y in 2019 its pretty impressive they now sit in the top 10 for Australian market for a battery only car. I think in the near future you'll only see battery and hybrid cars.
The 15 million ICE cars on the road today, and the 1.15 million ICE cars being sold this year say: Unlikely
12:19 vw ranked because they put their prices up so much. I went to buy a hot hatch and the R went up 20k
Donna Douglas . Threeprong would approve .
No wonder interest rates keep going up
I can't help but wonder why some of the brands bother. They sell so few there can hardly be any profit in them but more importantly why do people bother with some of the more obscure brands when there is no dealer network and even in places where a dealer can be found there is no incentive for them to keep parts as they sell so few of the brand and any model. I expect to see a winnowing of the market over the next few years as NVES and falling sales for some brands make it inevitable that they will leave the market leaving those who have bought their cars with vehicles that are worth nothing.
Well my dream car sold two in Oz last year, still I would jump at a Caterham in a second if I could afford one and could justify the impracticality...
@@benchapman5247 I had never heard of that brand until a few days ago but I can see why you might say that. It is not a brand for the mainstream family buyer who seem to prefer about 5 brands being Toyota, Ford, Kia, Hyundai and Mazda where as Skoda, Proton, Cupra and others that have sold poorly and whose sales are declining continue to offer cars here in the forlorn hope that sales might one day surge. There are a host of Chinese brands intending to offer cars here for sale and once they get the sales and the after sales right it will be all over for many of those brands I've mentioned and others that are or soon will be struggling.
Some buyers such as buyers of French cars are only thinking as far as how arty they will look to their friends and never get around to thinking about the potential problems you have mentioned as possible shortcomings. Who needs spare parts when you can leave it up to the guy that will be worrying about fixing it - whoever that might be - they don’t worry about that either 😂
Elly May and thanks for another informative and humourous session.
This is 2024 you should have chosen Gilligan...
To think that there are STILL people out there that "Work from Home" .... yeah, I'm sure they get SOME work done. Some......
@@JJ-wi2uw You do if you work for yourself.
You sound jealous.
Get back to maccas
Mary Anne always made me feel funny as a kid… couldn’t figure out why?
But in the words of Chad Morgan… “Oooo if I could just go back, and know what I know now”!
Mary Anne was the girl next door. Ginger was the girl from the wrong side of the tracks. :)
Can the sale numbers become inflated on paper by dealership's putting on "Demo" vehicles?
Corolla in the top ten is still a surprise but they are very good
Not sure how many EV’s Polestar sells but this is likely part of, if not the reason for the 0.8% reduction in EV sales. Just something to consider anyway.
Seems counter productive not to list your sales when you’re trying to show a growing market share.
Got a pet cow named Ellie May, and she had a daughter named Mary May. Just saying.
Was never a question who I love, Mary Ann😍
I’m not offended, my EV is a tram.
It looks like Hybrids (inc PHEVs) are the VHS to EV’s Betamax
EVs are not Betamax - Betamax was the superior technology.
EVs are like laser disc.
Your wrong there is choice 4, Dasiy from Dukes
Absolute toss up between her and Mary Ann!
A little light on analysis in parts here, John. Toyota's ostensibly impressive growth is largely reversion to the mean following a supply-constrained first half of 2023. Toyota's H1'24 sales in Australia are near identical to H1'22 sales: 121301 against 121377. Meanwhile, Chery's apparent stratospheric growth owes in part to the brand only having arrived in Australia in April 2023, such that the YoY figure of ~166% growth is comparing six months of sales (Jan-Jun '24) against three (April-Jun '23). The brand's "real" growth YoY, i.e. comparing Q2 with Q2, is ~48%.
If only Toyota could deliver the vehicles. Wait for many model variations is still over a year.
@@jebwI waited 9 months for my Pajero. It was well worth the wait.
Got to love the classic fluffer in the thumbnail.
She's A-Grade.
@@AutoExpertJC Better than Lew Grade! 🙂
Interest rates up, prices of cars, insurance up...sales of new cars...UP! So much for a cost of living crisis.
Those that demand an EV have probably already got one, if so demand is bound to fall?
3 years turn over.
Could`nt find a later stat. From Aircraft in Australia, 11 116 gigagrams of CO2 equivalent in 2018-19 to 5 955 gigagrams of CO2 equivalent in 2020-21, while road vehicle emissions fell by roughly 3 per cent over the same period. The 2024 stat should be even lower now and aircraft emissions up.We Have Politicians trying to make us buy polluting EVs whilst they crisscross the country making more greenhouse emissions. They don`t travel green. Double standards in my book. EVs are a scourge on the world.
I think Mary Anne would be less trouble overall.
Vehicle sales in the atates have stalled because they are so damn expensive. You can see brand new 3yo cars on the lots
Hey John wondering if you could do a video explaining the differences between full ev, phev and hybrid vehicles cause I've noticed there's a lit of people out there very confused about it.
Just had an argument with a fella who's convinced a phev is full ev and no amount of explaining it could convince him otherwise.
The scientific illiteracy in society is absolutely appalling...
just EOF sales for tax "bene-fits" claims, isn't Labor great
Robyn or should that be Barry Gibb ?
Queensland govt seem to have a lot EV's of various kinds.
Damn JC, this time i was actually waiting for Polestar Cherry!
Option 4. Klinger.
Option 5: Fake Ginger.
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😂😂
MARRY ANN! mate.
What use is EV with a range of at best 200 miles in Australia.
Dude Alfa Romeo up 39% YTD.... yeahhhhhhhh off a small base. Love my Guilia❤❤❤🎉
I couldn't see Holden on the chart
Love your content 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤣🤣keep the good work up
Duos, you should sell that to BYD for their next model name which will no doubt smoke your 318i you are still paying off
I love my Mary Anne Sportage. Best car we've had. Service Centre guys are awesome. The hubby actually enjoys getting the Sportage serviced because he can talk dirty ... Sorry talk technical 😅... With the mechanics while he sips his free coffee. 😂
LOLS. Not sure I like this show but always make it to the end. Damn.
“vibes-based reporting on the demise of EV sales look silly - global EV sales could hit 17 million in 2024, meaning more than one in five cars sold worldwide will be electric.” - forbs. I’d love to see Model Y get most sold global but the majority will be waiting for the entire update like already posted model 3 (2025)
@@Ray-dv1md Bogus is how you use good sales than yeah lmao. China leads on everything that requires education without price & ignorance. Coal pollution is high there but they also have some of the largest highest solar parks in the world that I’d never just ignorantly sleep on. Take the average car that gets 25 mpg & calculate the emissions rate of (8.89kg) per gallon over 150k miles, you’d exhaust 51.3 metric tons of carbon, enough to create manufacturing & installing to produce 4,135,380 mi of a 100kwh model S for fun play of words that creating something has a cost as. Green energy adoption is so important to this world, always gets overlooked to the dude that things it’s cool whipping a 14mpg mustang & removes that cat for extra sound. Difference between China & U.S. is pride + ignorance. Chinese take pride in education & you can tell that to most Asian parents lmao
Mary Anne for sure but there is that saying, never knock back a redhead!
I think Elons mistake was taking the cigarette lighter out- and turning the car into one.
I'm off ended Subaru not mentioned :-)
Going to be interesting to see what happens to EV sales when the dozen or so new jobbies are added to the forecourt over the next 6 months. No need to queue?
If my dingo is burning is that a medical condition?
Mary-Ann - but I really, really wanted Marcia Brady!
I wonder why Toyota is crushing everyone else in Australia and NZ. They have an image of reliability, but aren't particularly special in any other way. Maybe that's all people that can afford to buy new care about at the moment.
The answer to your question at the end is "99".
Ah yes, Barbara Feldon; still with us, at the age of 91.
Absolutely Elle May