Yes, because I have never saw the Sopranos, I was not biased against this show. Every Sunday night at 6pm, I watched with full attention. At first I didn't know if Steve could pull off being a gangster. He proved me wrong.
Don't think that quote was originally directed to Nucky; AR said that to Mickey Doyle and the D'lessio brothers. That being said, that's why AR keeps doing business with Nucky: he speaks the same language in business.
@@warrenbfeagins Yeah I recall the story he told. Bully tries to rob a young Jewish Boy, he stands up to him, twice. Get's beaten up, twice. Third time, bully asks him to join his gang. That was Lucky and Meyer. Their partnership was so legendary in real life, the writers here could never portray them otherwise.
@@haydengrayson6284 Sure, but that's different. They're still criminals at the end of the day. What's different is that Luciano and Lansky's bond CROSSED their ethnic lines. Luciano had a bond with Lansky. Most gangsters would put their ethnic loyalties FIRST. Think how many times did the other mobsters give them shit for it.
The fact that it got cancelled and even the last season cut short is sincerely unfortunate. Everyone in the show has superb acting skills, the set is so freaking realistic, the plot is fascinating Nd profound. Its only flaw is slow pace.
@@spe3173 it wasn't "cancelled" in the sense that it was abruptly pulled from the air, but it was cut short. My understanding was there were at least six or seven seasons of plotline ready to go but the project lost funding. I think they were pulling resources to move onto GoT or something.
@@matty0003 Yeah but I think the reason it wasn't great was that it's forced to cut short and to be the last season. So they have to rush through everything, such as the big time jump and there are so many random and forced deaths in the last season.
Not just by who played Masseria, but by the group. If they don't manage a convincing 'the big man speaks, we're quiet now', it doesn't matter how good the performance by one is.
Late comment I know... but I Couldn’t agree more. Out of everyone in the show, Masseria always felt like he was the most dangerous one in the room. This dude has such a commanding presence about him.
I hope I don't catch to much grief over this but I prefer Joe the Boss scenes over Don Corleone. Joe and Charlie are more exciting than Vito and Santino.
Yeah, I think you put exactly how I feel about the show is in a nutshell. I think it was a great show, and they had all the elements of a great show, but I think that's the thing that stops it from being on the level of The Wire/The Sopranos/Mad Men/Breaking Bad is that a lot of times they stumbled in putting all the pieces together.
@@AmericasComic I disagree completely. The show isn't about catering to the fans or attempting to create scenes where crime bosses shit all over each other while taunting. It's more about careful decision making and trying to make a sense of stability to the corruption, if it was all archetype asshololics by the characters, it wouldn't feel one bit realistic or understandable how they got to the places of power they did. It also doesn't justify crime in a cool way unlike how even Breaking Bad, Mad Men and The Soprano's are guilty of doing. I don't want another story about Lucky Luciano and Myer Lansky with Bugsy acting all gungho while cursing there lights out. I'd rather see them struggle to even be taken seriously for 4 seasons.
@Alex F I agree that Tony didn't enjoy his way of life, but I have to say that the entire Series, he doesn't get nearly as much pain as he dishes out, he always feels like the untouchable and kind of like a character that just complains about his happy life (Which is amusing as all hell, but I wouldn't say it's a negative representation of the crime industry, and more of a satire of it.) Nucky constantly gets people making problems for him and trying to kill him. He feels like he's faking his enjoyment at every point for the sake of earning enough to somehow become happy, it's a constant downward spiral that actually ends with hitting rock bottom and never getting back up again. Boardwalk is a deeper look at the folly of crime like The Godfather, While Sopranos is more of a satire of crime, sort of like Goodfellas. Overall it comes down to your preferences on which show you like more, but I tend to think Boardwalk has more of a fulfilling story to it than Sopranos did.
I agree. They took the time to show that dumb Benedict Arnold mf Dunn Pernsley, or w.e his name, lots of other instances where the scene/ppl involved weren’t even big characters on the show , much less real life bc theyre made up/fake.. AR losing his ass & being shot/facing the same treatment he handed out would’ve been great! I realize they had to smash it all together due to be canceled, but still could’ve done so in earlier seasons
I agree. The show had a great story, a top notch cast, a decent budget and a top rate network to promote and air it. Sadly the shows end product just didn't live up to all that potential. By the end, the show was underwhelming and ended with a whimper.
Yep. Perfect casting. Such a commanding presence. I always felt like Masseria was the most dangerous gangster on the show because of the way this guy plays him. He just felt like such a scary, dangerous dude..
Love the exchange at 3:30 - 3:42. Arnold betrayed Luciano and Masseria constantly belittled Meyer. Both of them patted them on the shoulders like they owned them. It kinda foreshadows their downfall and who succeeds them. It's one of my favorite themes of the show. The younger generation will treat their predecessors with the same cruelty they raised them with when they come of age.
Y’all know that’s a 400 yo quote from Pascal. Clever reference that I appreciate very much right there-and maybe that’s what you meant-but borrowed, just to be clear.
LMAO...I assume you're kidding. This entire scene is basically him scheming (right down to flattering Eli by calling him one of "The Thompson Brothers" in case he can get him to betray Nucky at another time.
It’s a shame though, they rushed last episode with a time jump to the end Luciano a well represented by image of the man, tutored by rothstein and shaped into a natural leader. But instead they had to cut his road a bit shorter
@@andrewibbotson7076same i thought after Nucky sold Rothstein the warehouse that got raided and had Capone’s guys gun down Masseria’s men Rothstein would make a move on Nucky and Nucky would stage the fixing and shooting
I find it strange that Masseria does business with AR especially as a 'moustache Pete', he was known for being incredibly small minded and bigoted toward non Scillians. Apparently him and some of the other old bosses used to chide Lucky Luciano for being involved with Frank Costello who they called a dirty Calabrian. Some of them were so backward they wouldnt even work with anyone from outside their old villages. Makes you wonder why they bothered going to the States in the first place.
extreme poverty moved them to leave Italy, didn't mean they had to adapt to the universal culture of the USA so soon. Masseria definitely didn't like Rothstein but business is business and ethnicity is ethnicity. They had a distaste for non Sicilians but territories and money have to be set.
To be fair, Rothstein basically muscled Masseria into going into business with him. He stole Masseria’s heroin from Lucky and Meyer and then offered to cut Joe in in exchange for Joe pulling his support from Gyp. It’s then revealed a couple of episodes later that Masseria eventually muscled Rothstein out of their heroin business, which meant him going into business with Narcisse, instead.
The popularity and viewers of this show is gradually increased with time passing by. It will receive its due respect in the long run. Good thing never becomes old, they becomes classic.
@@HOTD108_ Not talking about it still going as in airing, but the popularity. Thanks to clips that pop up and give rise to interest, more fans can get into the series.
its fuckin horrible, he asked for more respect he got more respect and the same respect ended up in him being arrested and ruined by the feds. them feds were sheisty aswell.
“He’s a gooda boy” “Meyer keeps me well informed” *Nucky walks over to Eddie, rubbing his back* “Yeah? Well, Eddie here keeps me well fed..and does my clothing” *all just stare with a blank face* “
My father's uncle (who migrated from Calabria to the Bronx when he was a young man) never shed his thick accent. His accent sounded like Masseria's. If I was making noise as a little kid when my great uncle was visiting he'd say "Don't a yell at the boy. He's a gooda boy.".
The former proteges have been stepping it up this season. Charlie advising Joe the Boss to shake Nucky's hand, Meyer talking AR into quitting the poker game and Al is basically running Cicero. Only Nucky is holding power.
Lucky and Meyer switching sides, playing everyone in the end. 'The pups have grown fangs' somehow didn't do their rise justice, nor Capone's. and Jimmy's spirit still looms large over the series, but becomes more distant with each episode.
Yeah. If there'd be more seasons than 5, we probably would have gotten to see Capone's full rise to power as well as the Castellammarese War that Lucky and Meyer manipulated to put them and Bugsy at the top of the crime rackets in New York.
For me, Jimmys ghost haunted the show after season 2. The show felt empty once Nucky's weird relationship with him ended. The show managed to do okay in season 3 with Rosetti and the war but season 4 and 5 is where Jimmy's absence and the shows lack of direction are painfully obvious.
Yeah. It's a shame that in order for Capone/Lucky/Lansky to be where that wanted them narratively, they needed to jump ahead to a year when real-life Rothstein was already dead.
i appreciate that you liked the show; i did too. but it went downhill after the killed jimmy. seasons 4 and 5 were essentially vapors of what could have been.
Andrew : Pascal said that if we are alone like that we are forced to contemplate serious question like truth, meaning and our own mortality. Therefore we spend our lives manufacturing a series of distractions in order to avoid this and what it really reveals. We spend our lives creating false goals and values to hide from the fact that in the end, apart from God, nothing we do matters or has any meaning at all.
@TheRealist 811 He liked the game in an era where the gangster life was stylish and was about business men talking to each other, making deals ... This era ended however and the new generation of gangsters were brutes like Capone, Luciano, Seagle etc. They weren't educated, used swear words while talking and didn't give a shit about conversation in general. But they didn't have any inhibition to kill their enemies with any weapons available. These people were psychos and Nucky simply was not
@@danimaster6647 if you look on the map, the Boardwalk is 100 miles from New York. That is a loooonnngggway down that little 2 lane road driving a basic horse carriage with an engine. People that went there had money to spend, no wonder before prohibition it was a cash cow.
Yes, he's definitely referring to Masseria...the one for whom not being seated would be a sign he was basically going to try to kill him right then and there.
I always felt like the way this was, where Rothstein stood behind Meyer who sat down, and Masseria sat next to Lucky, was like the "Old" Before the "New".
So it's 2022 in my world and I still can't believe Steve Buschemi was THE lead actor of a successful series for 5 years. I'm not saying he carried the show, not by any stretch. But he was the central character, the spinal column of the skeleton. I just always saw Buschemi as that quirky supporting character in Fargo or the modern westerns; but to see him play the American version of Machievelli (Nucky Thompson)... he was born for the role.
You are correct, these idiots saying your wrong have obviously never read a book or watched a documentary of the time when they would read letters written by these kinds of people and in fact they are articulate and very well spoken, profound even
"Reading and writing and 'rithmetic, taught to the tune of a hickory stick." Before the 60s, schools was strict and focused on diction. Kids who couldn't pronunciate clearly were often hit with rulers. My point? The way the characters spoke wasn't just made up for Boardwalk Empire. The research department did their job.
Favorite moment here: Luciano says he's "well" rather than "good"; Rothstein was always getting on him about his grammar and he was using the word as a "fuck you, I'm better off without you." Brilliant detail.
AR: “Chinese food menus being sent back to their restaurants?" Nucky: “What was brought to my doorstep, i returned. I’d expect all of you to do the same.”
"I'm well, A.R. Thanks for axin'. " They say Rothstein was killed for welching on a gambling debt, but I wonder sometimes...This scene makes me think Lucky took him out.
or maybe even meyer remember when rothstein took their heroin? watch after meyer holds charlie back and then has a weird little smile. maybe lucky and meyer did it together, they know rothstein loved to gamble so thats an angle to get him at.
There were also many more involved along with Luciano and Lansky Bugsy Seigel Vito Genovese Frank Costello Joe Adonis Carlos Gambino Albert Anastasia The whole Murder Inc Joseph Bonano Plus many more I forget their names
Notice charlie used proper English to low key snub AR remember what AR said when they ended there partnership that he thought he had a positive affect on Charles but he was wrong ,Charles didn't forget that
If you enjoy The Actors who play AR and Luciano.. Look up " Boardwalk Empire: Speakeasy Tour" . they are so very different in real life ..Great Actors...
Despite clashing at times, I think Arnold and Nucky had a mutual respect for each other. That's likely why Arnold had the odds so high of Nucky attempting to kill him while in Jersey. I believe that if Arnold had still been around and not catch that untimely debt due to his gambling habit, that war that ultimately led to Nucky's downfall may have not happened. Although Luciano and Lansky were coming up quickly, they had the respect for AR to where it could have been more diplomatic
It was great character development because earlier Lucky had spoke bluntly and even moved to attack Nucky when Nucky put him in is place. This scene showed that he had learned the art of detente.
“I didn’t ask for trouble. What was brought to my doorstep, (looks at Joe Masseria) I returned.... and I expect all of you to have done the same.” I now know what that means (Owen Slater in a 📦 or crate)
@@steelersguy74 That’s a possibility. But I think, with it being the start (Around the first couple episodes of Season 4) of the new series and Owen Slater ending up literally on “Nucky Thompson Doorstep” towards the end of Season 3, its a signal to Joe The Boss that “Hey, you killed my enforcer, you to my crib with guns ablaze, you put my wife and kid in danger, and you’ve been shooting at me since almost the season, you better just be glad that you’re not in a 📦 your damn self”. At least that’s what I took from it anyway.
@@steelersguy74 That's definitely what he meant-the mess with Gyp Rosetti in general. His whole point was that Atlantic City was his, he would protect it if somebody tried to take it from him, and that (as the bosses of their respective territories or rackets) he would expect them to do the same if someone was trying to take what they built. That's why he made a point of mentioning that he had his territory, the casinos, the numbers, and the wire before anything else.
It’s too bad this show came off the heels of The Sopranos. It never received it’s due respect. Brilliant series.
Its true, even when it was critiqued they always painted it in The Sopranos shadow. Which is redundant because its so different.
Yes, because I have never saw the Sopranos, I was not biased against this show. Every Sunday night at 6pm, I watched with full attention. At first I didn't know if Steve could pull off being a gangster. He proved me wrong.
Loved this show
It's kinda cheesy
@@tobyjones205 a few Sopranos actors came back for Boardwalk, people should have made the connection
The whole time Mayer and Lucky acting like they had a falling out and weren't secretly playing all of them was the best.
"Nothing says sorry like money" - A.R.
Nucky is a fast learner :)
I’m so glad someone else remembered that quote during this scene
Don't think that quote was originally directed to Nucky; AR said that to Mickey Doyle and the D'lessio brothers.
That being said, that's why AR keeps doing business with Nucky: he speaks the same language in business.
Buying off your enemy after a "free" punch of taking out fifteen his of his men on their way out of town is a terrific long-term investment
Only a Jewish man would be able to forgive anything for money
@@blaze4metal And back then those stacks of hundreds went a long way too.
Lmao the way Rothstein pats Meyer after Masseria pats Lucky is so funny to me, like exes running into each other with new dates
My God, you have unveiled my guilty pleasure
It's tribal. Italians vs Jewish. The problem is that Lucky and Lansky were loyal to each other, NOT AR and Masseria.
@@warrenbfeagins Yeah I recall the story he told. Bully tries to rob a young Jewish Boy, he stands up to him, twice. Get's beaten up, twice. Third time, bully asks him to join his gang. That was Lucky and Meyer. Their partnership was so legendary in real life, the writers here could never portray them otherwise.
@@warrenbfeagins LMFAO Luciano whacks Masseria. Loyalty my ass.
@@haydengrayson6284 Sure, but that's different. They're still criminals at the end of the day. What's different is that Luciano and Lansky's bond CROSSED their ethnic lines. Luciano had a bond with Lansky. Most gangsters would put their ethnic loyalties FIRST. Think how many times did the other mobsters give them shit for it.
The fact that it got cancelled and even the last season cut short is sincerely unfortunate.
Everyone in the show has superb acting skills, the set is so freaking realistic, the plot is fascinating Nd profound. Its only flaw is slow pace.
Yeah bad pacing
The last seasom wasn't great it ended when it needed to,
It wasn't cancelled
@@spe3173 it wasn't "cancelled" in the sense that it was abruptly pulled from the air, but it was cut short. My understanding was there were at least six or seven seasons of plotline ready to go but the project lost funding. I think they were pulling resources to move onto GoT or something.
@@matty0003 Yeah but I think the reason it wasn't great was that it's forced to cut short and to be the last season. So they have to rush through everything, such as the big time jump and there are so many random and forced deaths in the last season.
Masseria makes one noise and the rooms goes quiet. He commands respect in every scene he is in. Great acting.
Because he got an army of hitters behind him
@@ronaldlymm7248 Nuck has a half-faced man. That clears teams.
Because masseria has the biggest most powerful army
Not just by who played Masseria, but by the group. If they don't manage a convincing 'the big man speaks, we're quiet now', it doesn't matter how good the performance by one is.
He was also in Sons Of Anarchy. Played the president of the Mayans, Stockton chapter.
Great casting for Masseria every scene he is in he just has a presence about him
Absolutely
Nobody wanted to go to war with Masseria at that time.
Late comment I know... but I Couldn’t agree more. Out of everyone in the show, Masseria always felt like he was the most dangerous one in the room. This dude has such a commanding presence about him.
I hope I don't catch to much grief over this but I prefer Joe the Boss scenes over Don Corleone. Joe and Charlie are more exciting than Vito and Santino.
Yep! Cigarette makers were making commercials with actors portraying doctors as late as the 1950s so pre WWI was like ancient history in that regard.
This shows biggest flaw wasn't the scenes they made, but the scenes they didn't make
Yeah, I think you put exactly how I feel about the show is in a nutshell.
I think it was a great show, and they had all the elements of a great show, but I think that's the thing that stops it from being on the level of The Wire/The Sopranos/Mad Men/Breaking Bad is that a lot of times they stumbled in putting all the pieces together.
@@AmericasComic I disagree completely. The show isn't about catering to the fans or attempting to create scenes where crime bosses shit all over each other while taunting. It's more about careful decision making and trying to make a sense of stability to the corruption, if it was all archetype asshololics by the characters, it wouldn't feel one bit realistic or understandable how they got to the places of power they did. It also doesn't justify crime in a cool way unlike how even Breaking Bad, Mad Men and The Soprano's are guilty of doing.
I don't want another story about Lucky Luciano and Myer Lansky with Bugsy acting all gungho while cursing there lights out. I'd rather see them struggle to even be taken seriously for 4 seasons.
@Alex F I agree that Tony didn't enjoy his way of life, but I have to say that the entire Series, he doesn't get nearly as much pain as he dishes out, he always feels like the untouchable and kind of like a character that just complains about his happy life (Which is amusing as all hell, but I wouldn't say it's a negative representation of the crime industry, and more of a satire of it.)
Nucky constantly gets people making problems for him and trying to kill him. He feels like he's faking his enjoyment at every point for the sake of earning enough to somehow become happy, it's a constant downward spiral that actually ends with hitting rock bottom and never getting back up again.
Boardwalk is a deeper look at the folly of crime like The Godfather, While Sopranos is more of a satire of crime, sort of like Goodfellas.
Overall it comes down to your preferences on which show you like more, but I tend to think Boardwalk has more of a fulfilling story to it than Sopranos did.
I agree. They took the time to show that dumb Benedict Arnold mf Dunn Pernsley, or w.e his name, lots of other instances where the scene/ppl involved weren’t even big characters on the show , much less real life bc theyre made up/fake.. AR losing his ass & being shot/facing the same treatment he handed out would’ve been great! I realize they had to smash it all together due to be canceled, but still could’ve done so in earlier seasons
I agree. The show had a great story, a top notch cast, a decent budget and a top rate network to promote and air it. Sadly the shows end product just didn't live up to all that potential. By the end, the show was underwhelming and ended with a whimper.
The actor playing Masseria has great screen presence.
Yep. Perfect casting. Such a commanding presence. I always felt like Masseria was the most dangerous gangster on the show because of the way this guy plays him. He just felt like such a scary, dangerous dude..
That is my favorite. The guy is a real Boss!!!
@Alltilt bit late but hes actually Italian in real life
Yep. From Sicily, if I'm correct. Just like Joe the Boss himself.
“I talked to Lolli”
The good-ship Lollipop!!!
RIP Frank Vincent
Love the exchange at 3:30 - 3:42. Arnold betrayed Luciano and Masseria constantly belittled Meyer. Both of them patted them on the shoulders like they owned them. It kinda foreshadows their downfall and who succeeds them. It's one of my favorite themes of the show. The younger generation will treat their predecessors with the same cruelty they raised them with when they come of age.
The sets and clothing were like going back in time! I miss Michael Kenneth Williams aka Chalky White!
Dunn Pearnsley more
@@heavystarch100
They act like 2 stubborn parents arguing with child is better
3:52
"All of man's troubles come from his inability to sit quietly in a room by himself."
Rothstein is a pillar of the show.
Veeshush absolutely agree 👍
Stuhlbarg is always a win.
So actually now
Veeshush cannot be more true in this day and age
Y’all know that’s a 400 yo quote from Pascal. Clever reference that I appreciate very much right there-and maybe that’s what you meant-but borrowed, just to be clear.
In actual life , Arnold Rothstein’s problems came from his inability to pay a $320,000 poker debt
He was scammed and refused to pay up
$5,000,000 adjusted to 2021.
@@chuchu5946 he was scammed, its been well documented.
@Andrew Becker killed for not paying, scam or not. Can’t have someone been brave refusing to pay, others might. Not if you kill the gobshite.
@@haldir3120 lol so hes scammed so much shit :p thats life
AR was such a nice guy, always axing other people how they're doing.
LMAO...I assume you're kidding. This entire scene is basically him scheming (right down to flattering Eli by calling him one of "The Thompson Brothers" in case he can get him to betray Nucky at another time.
@@josephtelegen8754 why the fuck are you taking mate's comment serious? its an obvious joke at the way lucky said asking.
That was Charlie
@@josephtelegen8754you missed the joke sadly
“Axing”
All of man's troubles come from a inability to sit in a room quietly by himself. Sick quote
Beckett, I believe.
Inability to shit in a room, quietly, by himself
3:23 "How are ya Charlie?" "I'm well, AR, thanks for axking".
"He's a gooda boy"
stupida fuckin question
That was the biggest fuck you he could have given him lmao
3:22 you can tell from Rothsteins face that he actually cared about charlie
Thats how new Yorkers talk. They say axing instead of asking
This show should have gotten ten years. 1920-1930 would have had many possibilites.
They did go up to 1932 I think
It’s a shame though, they rushed last episode with a time jump to the end Luciano a well represented by image of the man, tutored by rothstein and shaped into a natural leader. But instead they had to cut his road a bit shorter
Given the death rate on this show, no one may have lived past 1925.
@@saturn3652 They rushed everything so quickly.. I heard this was one of the most expensive shows to make.
@@Ealdorman_of_Mercia Ya. They didn't even get rid of A.R properly. The last season was my least favorite too.
Always enjoying watching Rothstein and Nucky verbally spar back and forth. Michael Stuhlbarg was missed in season 5.
I actually thought they were going to kill him in the show and write it so that Nucky was involved
The dentist with the ether!!
@@andrewibbotson7076same i thought after Nucky sold Rothstein the warehouse that got raided and had Capone’s guys gun down Masseria’s men Rothstein would make a move on Nucky and Nucky would stage the fixing and shooting
I find it strange that Masseria does business with AR especially as a 'moustache Pete', he was known for being incredibly small minded and bigoted toward non Scillians. Apparently him and some of the other old bosses used to chide Lucky Luciano for being involved with Frank Costello who they called a dirty Calabrian. Some of them were so backward they wouldnt even work with anyone from outside their old villages. Makes you wonder why they bothered going to the States in the first place.
actually its smart. cant do business with any old asshole if they from ur village you know em
extreme poverty moved them to leave Italy, didn't mean they had to adapt to the universal culture of the USA so soon.
Masseria definitely didn't like Rothstein but business is business and ethnicity is ethnicity. They had a distaste for non Sicilians but territories and money have to be set.
Two words: Benito Moussalini
To be fair, Rothstein basically muscled Masseria into going into business with him. He stole Masseria’s heroin from Lucky and Meyer and then offered to cut Joe in in exchange for Joe pulling his support from Gyp. It’s then revealed a couple of episodes later that Masseria eventually muscled Rothstein out of their heroin business, which meant him going into business with Narcisse, instead.
@@BossaliniFiveO One with the old baldy did good was dealing with the mafia, i give him that
The popularity and viewers of this show is gradually increased with time passing by. It will receive its due respect in the long run. Good thing never becomes old, they becomes classic.
Sorta like Sopranos. Its still going strong.
@@Supperdude9Last I checked it ended in 2007. It's a timeless masterpiece of art, but objectively it's not still going.
@@HOTD108_ Not talking about it still going as in airing, but the popularity. Thanks to clips that pop up and give rise to interest, more fans can get into the series.
...Eddie's death was the most DEPRESSING scene in this whole series...
Misread, Bodie.
its fuckin horrible, he asked for more respect he got more respect and the same respect ended up in him being arrested and ruined by the feds. them feds were sheisty aswell.
“He’s a gooda boy”
“Meyer keeps me well informed”
*Nucky walks over to Eddie, rubbing his back*
“Yeah? Well, Eddie here keeps me well fed..and does my clothing”
*all just stare with a blank face*
“
yeah well he wacked his only predecessor
He makes me strudel
My father's uncle (who migrated from Calabria to the Bronx when he was a young man) never shed his thick accent. His accent sounded like Masseria's. If I was making noise as a little kid when my great uncle was visiting he'd say "Don't a yell at the boy. He's a gooda boy.".
Man, that look between Lansky and Luciano at 3:40, basically sets the stage for the entire 5th season
Good catch!
They were life long friends and butt buddies.
They were lifelong friends but in the end Lansky was more powerful than Luciano.
+J Smith are you trying to say thats how they met? Because it isn't
sam tinkler look it's fact and it well know it books about the modern day mafia
3:55 “All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” - Blaise Pascal, Pensées
all of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to shine shoes without a shinebox. - billy batts.
Women see men sitting quietly alone in a room and think to themselves “how can I just ruin it for him”
The former proteges have been stepping it up this season. Charlie advising Joe the Boss to shake Nucky's hand, Meyer talking AR into quitting the poker game and Al is basically running Cicero. Only Nucky is holding power.
All his proteges got killed, Jimmy, Owen, Richard, all died
'The pups have grown fangs, gentlemen'
The moment Masseria went from "not in the mood" to speaking English it was already settled.
Would had been funny if Nucky slapped him and said..youll speak it and youll like it!
He pulled a Sammy Sosa
The second Joe starts talking in English, everyone gets in line. Love it.
"14 to 1.....against."
The look on Nucky's face, you know those odds were closer to 1:1
is that mean arnold would kill him 14 times and nucky only one
@@kag8975 It means that Rothstein thought it 14 times more likely that Nucky would not kill him, than that he would.
What it meant was Rothstein didn’t take Nucky serious enough and Nucky knew it. It was all about perceiving weakness
Nah, Nucky was a businessman more than he was a gangster. AR was still a good ally to have.
Rothstein should have taken the bet - against his surviving.
Masseria owns every scene he's in
He Just didnt own his life
Nucky starting to treat Eddie with respect because he took a bullet for him and Eddie, bless him, keeping his pride by putting Nucky's blazer on
The Observer I love Eddie.
Lucky and Meyer switching sides, playing everyone in the end. 'The pups have grown fangs' somehow didn't do their rise justice, nor Capone's. and Jimmy's spirit still looms large over the series, but becomes more distant with each episode.
Yeah. If there'd be more seasons than 5, we probably would have gotten to see Capone's full rise to power as well as the Castellammarese War that Lucky and Meyer manipulated to put them and Bugsy at the top of the crime rackets in New York.
I wouldn't say they "manipulated" the war, but they used the war to kill the two bosses.
Charlie never wanted a war
DoMiNaTeOLDErWoMeN That 👀 they exchange circa 3:40 says it all.
For me, Jimmys ghost haunted the show after season 2. The show felt empty once Nucky's weird relationship with him ended. The show managed to do okay in season 3 with Rosetti and the war but season 4 and 5 is where Jimmy's absence and the shows lack of direction are painfully obvious.
@@sammylong3704 Season 3 was THE BEST of Boardwalk Empire HANDS DOWN. Jimmy was but he wasn't the show.
Notice Luciano said "I'm well" instead of, "I'm good", in response to AR's question. Looks his mentoring was paying off after all!
And followed it up with: "tanks for axing"...so, some more mentoring still required!
@@Kelveron Exactly what I thought! xD
@@Kelveron LOL right!
@Francis Serra No doubt.
"Thanks for ax-skin"
"What was brought to my door step, I returned".
Lol Owens death.
whateva happened theah.
Nice try, when he'd sent Owen to kill massaria
@@kenmurray8476 massaria's man Gyp killed 11 of Thompson's men first.
it's a shame when they go like that
He was talking about gyp Rossetti and his men
i would love in a boardwalk empire spinoff how lucky created the cosa nostra
Red Dell They need to do a spin off about Lucky and his rise to power and his fall. Next to Chalky he was my second favorite character on the show.
i would love any spinoff,these gangster movies/shows are the most entertaining to watch
yeah the tv needs more of these gangster tv shows like breaking bad or sopranos or a tv show about the 5 mafia familys in new york in the 1970s
i think they need a spinoff of al capone john torrio too.
Red Dell This seriously needs to be done, BADLY. I'm desperate for another BE or Sopranos.
Not having Rothstein in season 5 really sucked!
brennon dixon absolutely agree 👍
Yeah. It's a shame that in order for Capone/Lucky/Lansky to be where that wanted them narratively, they needed to jump ahead to a year when real-life Rothstein was already dead.
+brennon dixon: Hey, we’re both Dixon’s! 😀
It's because HBO started pouring all their resources into GoT and fucked over Boardwalk, it should have gone at least another season.
i appreciate that you liked the show; i did too. but it went downhill after the killed jimmy. seasons 4 and 5 were essentially vapors of what could have been.
Breadstick in a bow tie ! dentist creeping around with the ether !
connor clark but he does have very important garters holding up his very important socks
@@gargoyles9999 with some goo goo googly eyes
It's funny how a bag full of cash can clean the Slate, but only for a short time before more greed takes its place.
if he can put that much in a bag without being asked , how much is in the bag under the table?
1:22 AR creeping around in the back like a dentist with ether. 😈
Weird how everyone in the room starts yelling all at once EXCEPT for Charlie the one known for losing his cool all the time.
"All of mans troubles come from his inability to sit quietly in a room by himself" aint that the truth
It means that a man is never satisfied.
Andrew : Pascal said that if we are alone like that we are forced to contemplate serious question like truth, meaning and our own mortality. Therefore we spend our lives manufacturing a series of distractions in order to avoid this and what it really reveals. We spend our lives creating false goals and values to hide from the fact that in the end, apart from God, nothing we do matters or has any meaning at all.
They didn't call this a "sit-down" because of the negative implications, they thought of it as "a meeting of minds".
The way they throw in the Italian lines makes this show so bad ass
What a beautiful series this was. Just perfect dialogue. The writers are nothing less the. Genius.
What a great show this is. It’s been long enough. I think I will watch it again.
Nucky doesn’t want to be there. He never wanted to. He doesn’t even enjoy the game very much.
+perliva He doesn't like it, but he's addicted and can't stop; it's basically his drug.
He would have got out if he never liked it
Nucky deliberately drove himself into the game. He knew what it was about and still went for it. He got what he wanted.
@TheRealist 811 He liked the game in an era where the gangster life was stylish and was about business men talking to each other, making deals ... This era ended however and the new generation of gangsters were brutes like Capone, Luciano, Seagle etc. They weren't educated, used swear words while talking and didn't give a shit about conversation in general. But they didn't have any inhibition to kill their enemies with any weapons available. These people were psychos and Nucky simply was not
@@danimaster6647 if you look on the map, the Boardwalk is 100 miles from New York. That is a loooonnngggway down that little 2 lane road driving a basic horse carriage with an engine. People that went there had money to spend, no wonder before prohibition it was a cash cow.
Nucky: It's easy enough to shine-
Kessler: Then I will shine it.
Shinebox....
Lucky and Myer were brilliant playing the old gangsters against one another in the end to rule it all
Literally every actor in this scene does amazing work in this series.
“He’s ahh goot boiiiiiii” - Masseria 😂
Nucky: "Where's he sitting?" Eddie: "Where you wanted him."
And the first thing Nucky sees is Rothstein standing and grinning behind the chair!
think he meant Joe, as he's the one with the biggest grievance, powerful army and volatile nature
Lmfao... That fucking "Dentist with Ether" 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, he's definitely referring to Masseria...the one for whom not being seated would be a sign he was basically going to try to kill him right then and there.
@@josephtelegen8754 And placed next to the bag with the payment.
@@noono19 yes!
I always felt like the way this was, where Rothstein stood behind Meyer who sat down, and Masseria sat next to Lucky, was like the "Old" Before the "New".
Joe and Arnold using Meyer and Lucky as weapons like divorced parents
So it's 2022 in my world and I still can't believe Steve Buschemi was THE lead actor of a successful series for 5 years. I'm not saying he carried the show, not by any stretch. But he was the central character, the spinal column of the skeleton. I just always saw Buschemi as that quirky supporting character in Fargo or the modern westerns; but to see him play the American version of Machievelli (Nucky Thompson)... he was born for the role.
I liked him as Khrushchev too.
The art of talking, was much more beautiful in the 20s.
Well, it could be possible. I'm still enjoying this.
This is not a documentary.
Gee almost like a bunch of writers sit around in a room writing dialogue for these characters...
You are correct, these idiots saying your wrong have obviously never read a book or watched a documentary of the time when they would read letters written by these kinds of people and in fact they are articulate and very well spoken, profound even
"Reading and writing and 'rithmetic, taught to the tune of a hickory stick." Before the 60s, schools was strict and focused on diction. Kids who couldn't pronunciate clearly were often hit with rulers.
My point? The way the characters spoke wasn't just made up for Boardwalk Empire. The research department did their job.
" Tanks for axin " --------Well done, Vincent Piazza. -----------The actor playing Masseria IS Sicilian. ------------------WolfSky9, 72 y/o
the whole series is no doubt a cinematic gem. up there with band of brothers and the others.
„All of mens trouble come from its inability to sit in a room, quietly by himself.” - What a great line!!
You quoted him incorrectly
From the French mathematician and philosopher Blaise Pascal (1623-1662).
^ dude died at age 39, must have had plenty of men’s troubles. If you can’t sit in a room, sit in a tomb I guess
What a great show filled with great characters and beautiful sets and wardrobe! I'm not crazy about the way it ended but it is definitely underrated!
The close captions are hilarious lmao "Mr. Mozzarella"
I love EVERY scene Joe Masseria is in.
Favorite moment here: Luciano says he's "well" rather than "good"; Rothstein was always getting on him about his grammar and he was using the word as a "fuck you, I'm better off without you." Brilliant detail.
Joseph Telegen
Superman does good...we are well..
And the writing gets even more clever and ironic when he follows it up with “thanks for aksing”
Nothing says "I'm sorry" like money...all is forgiven for now...
Outstanding show . Best I’ve seen , even better than The Sopranos IMO.
Chrissy Moltisanti: Guys listening to middle management... I like how Luckys under Masseria...Meyers under A.R.
"He's not in the mood" freaking great writing and delivery
AR: “Chinese food menus being sent back to their restaurants?"
Nucky: “What was brought to my doorstep, i returned. I’d expect all of you to do the same.”
Captions: Mr. mozzarella and I have not actually met.
Acording to Joe Bonnano,Masseria was a man who could dodge bullets more than once,but had the table manners of a hun..
"I'm well, A.R. Thanks for axin'. " They say Rothstein was killed for welching on a gambling debt, but I wonder sometimes...This scene makes me think Lucky took him out.
or maybe even meyer remember when rothstein took their heroin? watch after meyer holds charlie back and then has a weird little smile. maybe lucky and meyer did it together, they know rothstein loved to gamble so thats an angle to get him at.
In actually they think Dutch Schulz had a hand in it.
Joe masseria really did use to scare the shit out of people image him as a highschool principal
Your'e actually a thompson who would understand it better😂
3:38 - 3:42
Fucking priceless.
Knowing what they become.
The future of all the modern American gangserdom because of the two of them.
There were also many more involved along with Luciano and Lansky
Bugsy Seigel
Vito Genovese
Frank Costello
Joe Adonis
Carlos Gambino
Albert Anastasia
The whole Murder Inc
Joseph Bonano
Plus many more I forget their names
Rothstein hiding in the corner looking like a well-distinguished Twilight character.
Or a dentist with the ether
shinebox full of money can fix every problem
The wire, sopranos, and boardwalk were top 3 HBO drama series in my eyes
Look at Rothstein creeping around like a dentist with the ether.
One often forgets how great this series was.
3:39 that look between Lucky and Meyer lol.
TheRealist 811 let’s keep on playing these fuckers
Notice charlie used proper English to low key snub AR remember what AR said when they ended there partnership that he thought he had a positive affect on Charles but he was wrong ,Charles didn't forget that
so many people RELISH the perks of their position but you can tell it just bothers Nucky who reacts with annoyance
Lol everyone in the room jumped a bit, including myself, when Joe the boss interjects and slams his hands on the chair n stands up
No they didn’t, what were you watching ?
A tv show made you jump?
I'm well, A.R. Thanks for axsin'.
This show is classic and underated it needs to be rebooted I think marketing or now would be the best time
“He’sssssttt aaa gooood boiii” 😅
Masseria was also good in Sons Of Anarchy as a Mayan boss
MAAYAA
Nucky buttoned that suit up super quick.
Find someone who loves you as much as Arnold hates New Jersey.
As soon as he started talking about running his odds I knew he was the MIB alien that sees the future 😂
People forget the masterpiece that is Boardwalk
If you enjoy The Actors who play AR and Luciano.. Look up " Boardwalk Empire: Speakeasy Tour" . they are so very different in real life ..Great Actors...
I like Eli here. Solid, dependable and knows his place but doesn't take shit from anyone. If only it stayed that way
Despite clashing at times, I think Arnold and Nucky had a mutual respect for each other. That's likely why Arnold had the odds so high of Nucky attempting to kill him while in Jersey. I believe that if Arnold had still been around and not catch that untimely debt due to his gambling habit, that war that ultimately led to Nucky's downfall may have not happened. Although Luciano and Lansky were coming up quickly, they had the respect for AR to where it could have been more diplomatic
I need a friend like Nucky's butler Eddie... He's such a loyal guy & trustworthy.
*He's the Alfred to his Boss' Batman forreal.*
This show has brilliant dialogues. Every phrase holds weight
That he won't shake Nucky's hand, or even speak to him in anything but Sicilian, made for a great scene.
Props to the person(s) who casted Arnold Rothstein.
Apparently Meyer can teleport.
Georgina Stewart no you're wrong he's in every scene
I noticed that I didn’t see him leave either.
@@steelersguy74 He never left, he just keeps sitting there even after Rothstein and Nucky leave.
I liked how Lucky told Masseria that he should shake Nucky's hand. Just that simple line was great writing.
Why
Yeah not really sure how that's great writing
Because they in nucky territory and Nucky was a powerful man as much as anybody. It's not good to show off in his turf.
Chilli SPICY Thank you for explaining it to them.
It was great character development because earlier Lucky had spoke bluntly and even moved to attack Nucky when Nucky put him in is place. This scene showed that he had learned the art of detente.
Nucky and A.R. liked each other, even though circumstances made them into enemies/rivals. They should have become friends
Nucky realized one thing all these other gangsters did not.
There is no trouble in the world you cant make dissapear with a big bucket of cash.
“I didn’t ask for trouble. What was brought to my doorstep, (looks at Joe Masseria) I returned.... and I expect all of you to have done the same.” I now know what that means (Owen Slater in a 📦 or crate)
Do you think that’s what he meant? I thought he was referring to the whole mess with Gyp in general.
@@steelersguy74 That’s a possibility. But I think, with it being the start (Around the first couple episodes of Season 4) of the new series and Owen Slater ending up literally on “Nucky Thompson Doorstep” towards the end of Season 3, its a signal to Joe The Boss that “Hey, you killed my enforcer, you to my crib with guns ablaze, you put my wife and kid in danger, and you’ve been shooting at me since almost the season, you better just be glad that you’re not in a 📦 your damn self”. At least that’s what I took from it anyway.
@@steelersguy74 That's definitely what he meant-the mess with Gyp Rosetti in general. His whole point was that Atlantic City was his, he would protect it if somebody tried to take it from him, and that (as the bosses of their respective territories or rackets) he would expect them to do the same if someone was trying to take what they built. That's why he made a point of mentioning that he had his territory, the casinos, the numbers, and the wire before anything else.
Most underrated mob show, they were as professional as the guys back then