"You are just a peddler and a pimp, sitting in a jail cell". It was nice watching Narcisse finally get stripped of his fake veneer of eloquence and sophistication. Hoover's words were cold and brutal, nowhere for Narcisse to hide.
@@area51ville yep. Hoover fit right in. Just like the likes of Joe Kennedy who used his talents to screw people and steal. None of them took that money and power with them upon death. And none could buy immortality.
@@elreydeoro2310 he was proof our government can have endless hidden cancers that makes life miserable for everyone. Government is full of people like him.
The hypocrite Narcisse giving the big speeches about Libyans and mocking Chalky for being too friendly with Nucky. Then he gets flipped by uncle Sam himself.
yeah narcisse was such a pussy he pranced around high and mighty like a debutant to other brothers and sistas but where was all that Garvey Libiyan shit in this scene
PuFFiN RuFFiN-chalky didn’t want the life anymore when he met daughter Naittkand, that was the point. You’ve probably never been laid in your entire life
The guy playing Hoover is brilliant. He seems so collected and polite, but you can tell there's this sadistic monster lurking underneath the veneer of civility.
3:27 Narcisse whispers: "Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.." which basically means, "There is no need to add to the troubles each day brings".
@covalentbond7933 Seems to me that anyone just resigned to the idea that every new day will bring trouble is cynical. I might be more accurate saying they are "negative" or "pessimistic" maybe "without hope" but "cynical" came to mind first, and I'm still gonna go with that. My father passed last month after a long, good life...Raised with some religion, he told me late in life that he had abandoned it after coming to the conclusion that we are alone in the universe -- there is no god or heaven or angels, or even any extraterrestrial beings...I thought that, too, was brutally cynical. Another friend once told me that he believed that Hell was actually on Earth and that humans had to go through Hell on Earth as a kind of test before they could move on to any heaven. In a similarly negative vein, Swedish film director Ingmar Bergman once said that life was an endless series of humiliations. While I can understand all these concepts and beliefs, and while everyone is entitled to their opinion, personally, I'm not certain I could live with so little hope (and without some faith in something).
I love the answer that Narcisse gives when Hoover asks the question, "Who do you think gets to decide what the truth is?", and his response was, "The truth is what those in power wish it to be". Great answer!
Excellent impressions of Manhood, from a time when men's speech was more calculated, thoughtful and weighted. Things said, in that time, actually Mattered and actions had consequence. These days, 50year olds still speak as children do. It's s sad commentary.
It both impresses and unsettles me that it seemed like Hoover knew exactly what Narcisse was going to say that entire time and had an elaborate 1 minute long description of his plans with him in response.
Yeah this all reminds me of my father getting muscle down and beat down before my eyes by MY grandfather HIS father.. If anyone has ever seen anything really powerful.. that is a sight to be truly seen just like this scene in so many ways
I love how the veneer begins to crack at 2:07 with his nervousness on full display. Looking for a way out, touching at his face in extreme discomfort. So satisfying to see Narcisse broken.
Indeed the Corrupt are always Corruptible. No matter how pure Narcissie thinks his motives are. He’s open to this type of pressure from the Feds because he’s a criminal. Just like how our Deep State operates today. Blackmail is the currency!
Almost immediately after the civil war people like narcisse started leaching and sabotaging black people with race grifting etc people like Al sharpton Louis Farrakhan are just modern iterations of narcisse
"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents." - Smedley Butler, Major General, USMC
Yes great acting indeed. Both were on point. Too bad Hoover's character didnt get more screen time as the series wound down. Gotta respect JEH - he was probably this country's greatest protector ever. Dont feel like there is anyone like him anymore. As for Narcisse, i despised his character, and couldnt wait for his dirt nap. Though the actor playing him is stellar and I enjoy him.
When Hoover "flipped" Narcisse, I assumed it would carry over into the next season somehow, but it didn't. The show basically went on like this never happened.
I agree. This show got fucked like Deadwood did by HBO. They deserved another 8 episodes. Also another thing like this that seemed to get cut was Willy's storyline. Particularly a romance. If you remember in Willi's first scene in season 5 he sits by the black girl that later is his co worker. The way the actress plays it you would assume they would end up being in love but they weren't given enough time and had to drop the sub plot completely.
I wanted to see if Maggie's boy turned into a psychopath or not. As for Narcisse when Chalky said 'no one's ever been free' and Narcisse turned around with a knowing and affronted look I was reminded of this scene.
It really seemed like they were setting up Hoover to be the biggest villain in the show, which would have been awesome. Instead we got a rushed season 5....
Great acting by both actors. Especially the guy that player Hoover. He sounded polite and intimidating at the same time. He was not gonna waste his time on Nacissie BS stories.
2:36 Narcisse asks "Why would he do that?" not "Why would *I* do that?" He understands - and subtly indicates - that he's been turned into a fictional character. Hoover could say anything he wishes, and people will believe it, and it doesn't have to have anything to do with the real Narcisse at all.
"You entered this country thru the port of New Orleans in 1898, is that correct?" "...I beg your pardon." "Is that correct?" "...Who are you?" "The one asking questions." Hoover commanding the conversation from start to finish.
Hoover acknowledged that Garvey is a great man / a threat but he also let Narcisse know he sees through his act and knows hes a phony, being the smartest man in the room wasn't going to help him here, he let him know that hes an insignificant pawn after trying to big himself up through the whole series as being some sort of freedom fighter.
Garvey was a fuckin con man, just like Narcisse. Hoover is just pretending to agree w him to show how different Narcisse is from Garvey, who he calls a hero
I just realized that the actor that plays Hoover is the same guy who plays Corporal Chaffin in Generation Kill (a southern Marine Infantryman with an IQ of 30)... The range of performance from these actors is exceptional.
The guy who plays Hoover also appears as Betty's brother on Mad Men. Great actor. I love the Matt Weiner/Terry Winter trifecta...Sopranos, Mad Men, and Boardwalk Empire are all so amazing.
this was one of the best scenes maybe arguably top 3, its such a shame it ended here, i really wanted to see more of hoover an the bureau start to influencing their power
I'm reappreciating Jeffrey Wright (Narcisse) as an actor again, after all this time since Boardwalk. Having had the priviledge of seeing him in both the Hunger Games and Westworld now, the man has a phenomenal range.
For 1To put it bluntly.. he had ALOT to lose.. Chalky did not have all that outside Caribbean stuff that the " Dr " was coming from Had he been had been deported they would have been calling him a "worthless deportee" and the people in the whole of the Caribbean Islands would of never found favor to him EVER just like what happened to Marcus Garvey ( Also watch a Jamaican movie called Shottas this same type of theme comes up as well in the movie The theme of being deported is raw and in your face as it squirrely place the viewer as a Jamaican overseas [ foreign ] ) No. 2 Chalky people have mainly come from being in prison or in jail Those was the people he was trying to help Two different really important situations for two different really important people
Everyone was convinced he was gonna die, but he wasn't deserving of anything near as honorable as that. Deserves the emmy tho lol...and i thought Gyp was intense.
It would have been a terribly predictable (and quite frankly unsatisfying) fate for him if the writers had him killed in the end. He's such an interesting villain, I honestly think he's the best villain Boardwalk has ever had. I was disappointed he didn't have as much to do this season as I would have liked, but I'm glad he's returning. Really hoping that Hoover plays a bigger role next season as well. I like the idea of the FBI becoming a major antagonists in the show.
Compare Nucky to Hoover, both men gifted at saying the right thing at the right time. Nucky witty and charming, Hoover direct, calculated and cutting. Here, when Hoover forces Narcisse to call him Sir, it is all about establishing his dominance than perhaps his personal feelings towards race. We saw Nucky on so many occasions say what he needed to say. For example after the shooting at Chalky's warehouse, he gives 2 identical speeches to both groups advocating race and it is obviously no reflection on his personal feelings. A series of Nucky and Hoover clashing, playing a strategic match of chess if you will, would have been pretty epic.
Hoover could've killed organized crime in the crib if he wasn't so obsessed with stamping out ideas rather than taking down actual corruption. Then again, if he had tried going after real criminals his bosses would've just gotten rid of him early on - before he became too powerful.
when you literally find yourself rooting for other villains over Naricisse you know he's a vile jerk.. Not saying Hoover was one.. I'm referring to all the other gangsters.. I wanted CHalky to win so bad..
Incredible acting from Jeffrey Wright the way Narcisse said " Yes sir " you felt like he would have rather been b!tch smack by Chalky White then bow down to Hoover.
You can see the difference between him and nucky right here. Whatever fate has in store for him he won't try and worm his way out, he'll take it like a man. Narcisse always seemed to be a hypocrite to me. Claims to want to be guide to his people, but he is as much an exploiter as anyone else.
It is the start of a CIA legacy with his grandson, Felix Leiter, who has helped bring down terrorist bankers and third-world despots in the present time.
@@Agent1W the CIA has created just as many terrorist bankers and third-world despots as they have brought down, so let’s quit with the neocolonial revisionism.
Hoover flipped a lot of people. Check out a guy by the name of Alvin "Kreepy" Karpis - who had been #1 on the Most Wanted listed. Hoover banged him up for twenty odd years for being part of the notorious Ma Barker gang. Years later he would befriend a no-good career criminal from Cincinnati, Charles Manson. Story was Karpis functioned as Hoover's muscle and got Manson involved in a program which would see him set free with an endless supply of money and drugs which he took with him to LA. WHY this deadbeat was given the biggest green light for criminal behavior by the Feds is the interesting question...
Narcisse should have agreed to Hoovers terms..got out of jail..grabbed every dollar he had & left the place he despised so much. Maybe quitting while you're ahead isn't the same as quitting 😉🙏
Worst thing the USA did wasn't slavery since it predated 1776, no, the worst thing was keeping the newly freed slaves here instead if setting them up in a country in Africa. The USA should've gone through with the Liberia plan, and kept at providing aid and advice for another 100 years post Civil War.
I love this portrayal of Hoover. He's such a smug son of a bitch and a black eye on whatever integrity the United States claims to have. He's a part I'd love to play as an actor
Of all the "antagonists" in this show, Narcisse is the one I hated the most. Self righteous, delusional, and he turned his guns on Chalky, a self made, powerful man, the very ideal he champions, long before the feds started squeezing him. He was as weak and fake as it got. No better than a modern day snake oil salesman or televangelist even though he thought of himself as a "great liberator."
"You are just a peddler and a pimp, sitting in a jail cell". It was nice watching Narcisse finally get stripped of his fake veneer of eloquence and sophistication. Hoover's words were cold and brutal, nowhere for Narcisse to hide.
You're right. I just hated that it was the hypocritical cross dresser Hoover that said it
@@steveberlack its a show about degenerates what did u expect
@@area51ville yep. Hoover fit right in. Just like the likes of Joe Kennedy who used his talents to screw people and steal. None of them took that money and power with them upon death. And none could buy immortality.
Ya Hoover was a POS, so I agree with the sentiment. At least you admit that Hoover was a degenerate.
@@elreydeoro2310 he was proof our government can have endless hidden cancers that makes life miserable for everyone. Government is full of people like him.
It took less time for the FBI to flip the all powerful Narcisse, than what it took to flip Adriana La Cerva.
To be fair, one wasn’t interrogated by Hoover himself
Narcisse didn't have Christopher Moltisanti for a boyfriend
At least one informant stayed alive for a few years afterwards
@@NguyenMinh-vs1vmso you may fold under questioning hendry
@@anthonytunstall2147he had Marcus Garvey a powerful guy behind him
The hypocrite Narcisse giving the big speeches about Libyans and mocking Chalky for being too friendly with Nucky. Then he gets flipped by uncle Sam himself.
"Who are you?"
"The one asking questions."
Right to the fucking throat, I love it.
This is poetic justice for Narcisse, but not nearly enough. I need to see him suffer more for what he did to Chalky.
He knocked chalky off in the worse way
Chalky made his choice. He was stupid and a simp.
yeah narcisse was such a pussy he pranced around high and mighty like a debutant to other brothers and sistas but where was all that Garvey Libiyan shit in this scene
PuFFiN RuFFiN-chalky didn’t want the life anymore when he met daughter Naittkand, that was the point. You’ve probably never been laid in your entire life
@@puffinruffin7851 faxx. Dumb fool had it all and could've fuck a different show girl ernight but fell for the one who couldn't cook😂😂
The guy playing Hoover is brilliant. He seems so collected and polite, but you can tell there's this sadistic monster lurking underneath the veneer of civility.
A true psychopath, a look of hunger in his eyes when he's making Narcisse say sir:)
Back In those days we all would have had to bow down to Hoover, period....
Gay Edgar Hoover.
louthegiantcookie was satisfying to see him put the evil doctor in his place tho.
louthegiantcookie J Edgar Hoover was the biggest Coward that Ever Lived. Facts!
Seeing Narcisse's disgust at saying "sir" was palpable. Very good acting.
redhairmarimo I watched this scene like 8 times after this episode finished. It was so powerful and incredible acting.
I made a vow that when I left the U.S. Navy in 1979, I am dropping the "S" word from my vocabulary.
@Stephen Minton You da man!
He shouldnt have said sir to that piece of shit, but then again if you doin wrong you fall into the hands of the devil
That 'Sir' hurt him worse than when he finally got killed.
3:27 Narcisse whispers: "Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.." which basically means, "There is no need to add to the troubles each day brings".
Matthew 6:34
Yup. Essentially, one evil is interchangeable with another.
Good lord that's one of the most cynical things I've ever heard in my life
@@marklipson how is this cynical?
@covalentbond7933 Seems to me that anyone just resigned to the idea that every new day will bring trouble is cynical. I might be more accurate saying they are "negative" or "pessimistic" maybe "without hope" but "cynical" came to mind first, and I'm still gonna go with that.
My father passed last month after a long, good life...Raised with some religion, he told me late in life that he had abandoned it after coming to the conclusion that we are alone in the universe -- there is no god or heaven or angels, or even any extraterrestrial beings...I thought that, too, was brutally cynical. Another friend once told me that he believed that Hell was actually on Earth and that humans had to go through Hell on Earth as a kind of test before they could move on to any heaven. In a similarly negative vein, Swedish film director Ingmar Bergman once said that life was an endless series of humiliations.
While I can understand all these concepts and beliefs, and while everyone is entitled to their opinion, personally, I'm not certain I could live with so little hope (and without some faith in something).
Narcisse: I'll work for you.
Hoover: Good. Now go home, and get your shine box.
Lol
Throughout all of Boardwalk Empire, no one even once said, "Myah, see?". I feel cheated.
Edward G. Robinson set the standard, for movie gangsters.
I wouldve loved a mustached peter griffin 1920s laugh...."he he he... myah...."
@@SyedSAhmed-wz4mu Facing Ernie the chicken who is holding a Thompson.
Mickey Doyle came the closest to doing a funny accent.
I know! Imagine the disappointment on all our faces when we didn't once hear, " You'll never take me alive, Copper". 😢
When a villain meets a Supervillain.
I feel like there’s a group of people who only watch hbo clips off TH-cam than the actual shows and I love it
I did that for the wire. Kid of ruined it but not really. But ill never do that again
Sort of in my case. I have actually watched Boardwalk all the way through, but am living off of these clips instead of rewatching it, :P
I love the answer that Narcisse gives when Hoover asks the question, "Who do you think gets to decide what the truth is?", and his response was, "The truth is what those in power wish it to be". Great answer!
Well the exile does not choose his Babylon.
Truth is written by the victors. In this case the DR lost!
History or His Story relates to the victor's interpretation of past events....
Excellent impressions of Manhood, from a time when men's speech was more calculated, thoughtful and weighted.
Things said, in that time, actually Mattered and actions had consequence.
These days, 50year olds still speak as children do.
It's s sad commentary.
It both impresses and unsettles me that it seemed like Hoover knew exactly what Narcisse was going to say that entire time and had an elaborate 1 minute long description of his plans with him in response.
and I'll bet Hoover was wearing fishnet stockings the whole time....
+Aaron David Kapner "I don't know. I suppose it made him feel sexy." --Agent Brick Davis, on J. Edgar Hoover
4sho right
You are confusing the cinematic realities :)
Dammit I spit my drink everywhere.
😂😂😂
Narcisse finally got broken down by an even bigger pimp than himself. One of the biggest pimps of all time. That pimp J Edgar Hoover.
Always enjoy seeing a very intimidating character get muscled by an even scarier one.
And thats without his electrical powers!
@@JnEricsonx
😂 I see what you did there
Yeah this all reminds me of my father getting muscle down and beat down before my eyes by MY grandfather HIS father.. If anyone has ever seen anything really powerful.. that is a sight to be truly seen just like this scene in so many ways
I love how the veneer begins to crack at 2:07 with his nervousness on full display. Looking for a way out, touching at his face in extreme discomfort. So satisfying to see Narcisse broken.
Narcisse never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Son of a bitch!!! (Slams fork) did I not tell you not to say that again?!!
+Leon Delvechio Ramirez you don't like the way I talk? Get out of my house!
+X Dub Get your coat we're leaving.
+Leon Delvechio Ramirez Ahhh...I don't have a coat
+vladut andrei s. well then get going goddamnit
Thing is, as revolting as Hoover was... he’s kinda right here about Narcisse.
Indeed the Corrupt are always Corruptible. No matter how pure Narcissie thinks his motives are. He’s open to this type of pressure from the Feds because he’s a criminal. Just like how our Deep State operates today. Blackmail is the currency!
Almost immediately after the civil war people like narcisse started leaching and sabotaging black people with race grifting etc people like Al sharpton Louis Farrakhan are just modern iterations of narcisse
Hoover was a bastard, but sometimes it takes a bastard to take down other bastards.
Hoover had information on everyone. It was said that this queen---had more power than the President at one time.
Seriously underestimated organized crime though. Unless they were too big of a bastard for even him to take on?
@@matthewriley7826 they had dirt on him being gay so he couldn’t do anything about thrm
i doubt marcus garvey was any such bastard.
Which is why you don't pass stupid laws that require people to be bastards...
That moment you realize that the most vicious man you have ever met was Hoover.
As much as one can dislike Hoover, seeing him so masterfully dismantle Narcisse is incredibly satisfying.
Jeffrey Wright and Eric Ladin put on a master class in performance art in this scene.
"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
- Smedley Butler, Major General, USMC
Smedley Butler from Newtown Square, PA was a real American hero.
Dam is that a gangster or a patriot its always about the dollar always the dollar always the fu**kin dollar
When an evil man meets the devil himself.
Genius acting on both sides of that table.
Violation of the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constition.
Absolutely!... I love their dialogue
@@aguilayserpiente
Welcome to the FBI, friend. A cancerous vestige from the start.
Yes great acting indeed. Both were on point. Too bad Hoover's character didnt get more screen time as the series wound down. Gotta respect JEH - he was probably this country's greatest protector ever. Dont feel like there is anyone like him anymore. As for Narcisse, i despised his character, and couldnt wait for his dirt nap. Though the actor playing him is stellar and I enjoy him.
@@aguilayserpiente are you seriously really naive enough to believe a black man in the 30s could have ever proved those violations?
The opening of this scene reminds of Chalky's last words to Narcisse - "It's all a dream to begin with, ain't nobody ever been free."
Power. Pure, relentless, unfettered power. Hoover broke him quick.
If that was a poker game, Narcisse folds and Hoover takes the pot. The outcome was never in doubt.
"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof" --- Matthew 6:34
Thank you! I was trying to decipher exactly what he said before the "Yes sir"
@@TheJarijam Me too lol.
Thank you. Captions didnt pick it up.
What does it mean??
@@christopherjackson3455 How ironic that coming from a murderer and a criminal.
When Hoover "flipped" Narcisse, I assumed it would carry over into the next season somehow, but it didn't. The show basically went on like this never happened.
I agree. This show got fucked like Deadwood did by HBO. They deserved another 8 episodes. Also another thing like this that seemed to get cut was Willy's storyline. Particularly a romance. If you remember in Willi's first scene in season 5 he sits by the black girl that later is his co worker. The way the actress plays it you would assume they would end up being in love but they weren't given enough time and had to drop the sub plot completely.
I wanted to see if Maggie's boy turned into a psychopath or not. As for Narcisse when Chalky said 'no one's ever been free' and Narcisse turned around with a knowing and affronted look I was reminded of this scene.
Margret, dumbass. Teddy was just interested by fire when nucky burned down the house.
Feeling a little hostile there?
It really seemed like they were setting up Hoover to be the biggest villain in the show, which would have been awesome. Instead we got a rushed season 5....
Hoover: “Now hurry up and agree, Clyde is waiting and I still have to put on his favourite dress.”
The whole production is incredible; acting, writing, set, costumes etc. Amazing series to watch and I'm thrilled I got to view it.
Great acting by both actors. Especially the guy that player Hoover. He sounded polite and intimidating at the same time. He was not gonna waste his time on Nacissie BS stories.
Jay Edgar Hoover. god dang. how long has this Man been in the FBI. This is the 1920s. and he was still the director in 1960s.
@OJ Ivey I thought it was Jane Edna Hoover.
He joined at age 21, was director by 26. Stayed director until he died
Jeffery Wright was awesome in every scene he had in this show.
For Narcisse having to bow down to a white man was worse than death. I loved this scene.
Me too as well
Bow down to *the man*
I mean he had a choice essentially between the two and chose bowing so idk how you get that
Steevy Horton this is fictional and acting
Matt Williams he was also killed by a white man I guess that’s karma for killing Chalky
2:36
Narcisse asks "Why would he do that?" not "Why would *I* do that?" He understands - and subtly indicates - that he's been turned into a fictional character. Hoover could say anything he wishes, and people will believe it, and it doesn't have to have anything to do with the real Narcisse at all.
"You entered this country thru the port of New Orleans in 1898, is that correct?"
"...I beg your pardon."
"Is that correct?"
"...Who are you?"
"The one asking questions."
Hoover commanding the conversation from start to finish.
Udontsay
I mean he is the top cop in the land. Just say what you meant. You like the way the white man dominated the black man in this scene.
Fame Rothstein Sports Investing Show Lmao that’s your own mind projecting. Keep your racist tendencies to yourself you fucking moron.
@@thebettingpublicsportsshow Hahah what a stupid comment is that
@@thebettingpublicsportsshow It is really stupid comment.
Jeffery Wright is one of the greatest actors of modern times!
Hoover acknowledged that Garvey is a great man / a threat but he also let Narcisse know he sees through his act and knows hes a phony, being the smartest man in the room wasn't going to help him here, he let him know that hes an insignificant pawn after trying to big himself up through the whole series as being some sort of freedom fighter.
Garvey was a fuckin con man, just like Narcisse. Hoover is just pretending to agree w him to show how different Narcisse is from Garvey, who he calls a hero
The guy playing Hoover was perfect
He reminds me of Daniel Travanti Capt. Ferillo from Hill Street Blues
That last moment was so fucking brilliant. One of the greatest shows ever next to The Sopranos. Thank you sir Wright
So the FBI hasn't changed at all.
This show is much deeper than the majority, if not the best at it. No coincidence it wasn't popular considering how dumbed down the masses are.
"All a dream to begin with. Ain't nobody ever been free."
And there aren't black people ruling Libya. Everything this man says is a lie.
As much of a shit as hoover was, it was immensely satisfying to see Narcisse get knocked down a peg.
I wonder how the conversation between Hoover and Giancana went. "so, Edgar.......we got some photos of you", lol!
I just realized that the actor that plays Hoover is the same guy who plays Corporal Chaffin in Generation Kill (a southern Marine Infantryman with an IQ of 30)... The range of performance from these actors is exceptional.
He also voiced Cole McGrath in Infamouse 2
I like the yin-yang-like shot at 1:05.
Good observation
Truth, is what those in power wish it to be = Whoever has the power, say what the " Truth " will be.
Narcisse was Ice Cold...then you could see him Melting... That was some great acting.
The guy who plays Hoover also appears as Betty's brother on Mad Men. Great actor. I love the Matt Weiner/Terry Winter trifecta...Sopranos, Mad Men, and Boardwalk Empire are all so amazing.
James Edger Hoover would be an excellent Subject to base a TV series on.
Crime , justice and lingerie.
@davisismail1comcast Mellenated blood? Is that a thing?
It’s funny to think that Hoover went home from being a corrupt power broker to prance around in silky lace
this was one of the best scenes maybe arguably top 3, its such a shame it ended here, i really wanted to see more of hoover an the bureau start to influencing their power
+MW12 The whole final season was rushed, sadly.
I'm reappreciating Jeffrey Wright (Narcisse) as an actor again, after all this time since Boardwalk. Having had the priviledge of seeing him in both the Hunger Games and Westworld now, the man has a phenomenal range.
His portrayal of
Jean-Michel Basquiat was his apex Imo. Such a great actor up with Denzel, James Earl Jones, and Morgan Freeman.
@@eamonwright7488 you’re correct, but don’t just list top tier BLACK actors in comparison. He’s simply 1 of the best no matter the color.
The Shaft remake as the Dominican crime lord, Peoples Hernandez. Plays a Dominican perfectly
Jeffrey was in the HBO film OG which is probably the best prison film I've ever seen in my life. Even better than Shawshank which says a LOT.
This was the great battle of
The lisps
One thing for sure Mr. White would have never flipped
For 1To put it bluntly.. he had ALOT to lose.. Chalky did not have all that outside Caribbean stuff that the " Dr " was coming from Had he been had been deported they would have been calling him a "worthless deportee" and the people in the whole of the Caribbean Islands would of never found favor to him EVER just like what happened to Marcus Garvey
( Also watch a Jamaican movie called Shottas this same type of theme comes up as well in the movie
The theme of being deported is raw and in your face as it squirrely place the viewer as a Jamaican overseas [ foreign ] )
No. 2 Chalky people have mainly come from being in prison or in jail Those was the people he was trying to help
Two different really important situations for two different really important people
Everyone was convinced he was gonna die, but he wasn't deserving of anything near as honorable as that. Deserves the emmy tho lol...and i thought Gyp was intense.
It would have been a terribly predictable (and quite frankly unsatisfying) fate for him if the writers had him killed in the end. He's such an interesting villain, I honestly think he's the best villain Boardwalk has ever had. I was disappointed he didn't have as much to do this season as I would have liked, but I'm glad he's returning.
Really hoping that Hoover plays a bigger role next season as well. I like the idea of the FBI becoming a major antagonists in the show.
The Dr. Was fake and not believable nucky and chalky would have killed him
Compare Nucky to Hoover, both men gifted at saying the right thing at the right time. Nucky witty and charming, Hoover direct, calculated and cutting. Here, when Hoover forces Narcisse to call him Sir, it is all about establishing his dominance than perhaps his personal feelings towards race.
We saw Nucky on so many occasions say what he needed to say. For example after the shooting at Chalky's warehouse, he gives 2 identical speeches to both groups advocating race and it is obviously no reflection on his personal feelings.
A series of Nucky and Hoover clashing, playing a strategic match of chess if you will, would have been pretty epic.
This is The most satisfying scene involving Narcisse. He is completely humbled and humiliated here. It’s great.
That face is just so intense and cruel, with a voice to match it's wickedness.
Hoover - “Yes, what?”
Narcisse - “Yes, masser.....”
Hoover could've killed organized crime in the crib if he wasn't so obsessed with stamping out ideas rather than taking down actual corruption. Then again, if he had tried going after real criminals his bosses would've just gotten rid of him early on - before he became too powerful.
He was blackmailed by organized crime
I didn't know Mark Zuckerburg was acting
One monster destroying another
If we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us.
A servant, pretends to be a king
Speaking in 3rd person was a great touch.
Hoover learned a thing or two from Remus.
Truth is what those in power wish it to be ...so true
I think we could argue with that. But again it'll be better if one does not :)
Careful Narcisse, he will hit you with enough electricity to power Times Square if you screw with him.
when you literally find yourself rooting for other villains over Naricisse you know he's a vile jerk.. Not saying Hoover was one.. I'm referring to all the other gangsters.. I wanted CHalky to win so bad..
When you find out you can't call the homies to come get you.
Hoover is basically Arnold Rothstein, but on the other side of the law
Saying "Yes sir" Hurt more than him getting shot at the end.
Incredible acting from Jeffrey Wright the way Narcisse said " Yes sir " you felt like he would have rather been b!tch smack by Chalky White then bow down to Hoover.
It's a shame we didn't get to see this plotline develop in the final season it would have been interesting to see more of these two
1:40 = 100% Genius w/ a side of blissful eloquence.
That’s one scary Hoover.
Jeffrey Wright is an brilliant actor.
This is probably the darkest fuckin dialogue in the whole show
The guy playing Hoover has some Half-life G-Man vibes... even the voice.
"Why would you go on living in a country you don't wish to belong to" Still very relevant to this day
Jeffrey wright is a fantastic actor
hoover played the fuck out of his part I loved watching him obliterate Narcisse the narcissist
These were two of the most despicable characters in BWE. If only we could have seen Hoover get murdered too. He destroyed this country.
Hoover died of a heart attack in 1972.
Truth is what people in charge wish it to be..........sad truth
You can see the difference between him and nucky right here. Whatever fate has in store for him he won't try and worm his way out, he'll take it like a man. Narcisse always seemed to be a hypocrite to me. Claims to want to be guide to his people, but he is as much an exploiter as anyone else.
It is the start of a CIA legacy with his grandson, Felix Leiter, who has helped bring down terrorist bankers and third-world despots in the present time.
@@Agent1W the CIA has created just as many terrorist bankers and third-world despots as they have brought down, so let’s quit with the neocolonial revisionism.
Hoover flipped a lot of people. Check out a guy by the name of Alvin "Kreepy" Karpis - who had been #1 on the Most Wanted listed. Hoover banged him up for twenty odd years for being part of the notorious Ma Barker gang. Years later he would befriend a no-good career criminal from Cincinnati, Charles Manson. Story was Karpis functioned as Hoover's muscle and got Manson involved in a program which would see him set free with an endless supply of money and drugs which he took with him to LA. WHY this deadbeat was given the biggest green light for criminal behavior by the Feds is the interesting question...
Jeffrey Wright is a Wonderful actor!!!!!!
Narcisse should have agreed to Hoovers terms..got out of jail..grabbed every dollar he had & left the place he despised so much. Maybe quitting while you're ahead isn't the same as quitting 😉🙏
Worst thing the USA did wasn't slavery since it predated 1776, no, the worst thing was keeping the newly freed slaves here instead if setting them up in a country in Africa. The USA should've gone through with the Liberia plan, and kept at providing aid and advice for another 100 years post Civil War.
A big network like HBO wouldn’t dare have a black man portrayed as racist today.
" who are you ?"
" the one asking questions "
That response right there made Narcisse think" oh shit....😐"
It's unfortunate, but every now and then blackey must be reminded of where he sits in the pecking order.
Imagine being racist in 2020. Ernest hemingway yourself before you procreate and spread your vitriol please.
Honestly, I don't think Hoover cared if Narcisse was black or white. He would have treated him just the same.
I love this portrayal of Hoover. He's such a smug son of a bitch and a black eye on whatever integrity the United States claims to have. He's a part I'd love to play as an actor
This was a bizarre thread that never resurfaced
lol.. the contempt in that yes sir... is so hilarious
Of all the "antagonists" in this show, Narcisse is the one I hated the most. Self righteous, delusional, and he turned his guns on Chalky, a self made, powerful man, the very ideal he champions, long before the feds started squeezing him. He was as weak and fake as it got. No better than a modern day snake oil salesman or televangelist even though he thought of himself as a "great liberator."
And kudos to the acting chops of Geoffrey Wright for making me hate him so God damn much too. That is one of the qualities of a truly great actor.
@@joepope5793Jeffery Wright.