Thank you for easy to follow tutorial. I tried making this style door once before and well it was a goat rope. Your technique is way easier and thoroughly explained. Thank you.
This is perfect timing. I have some router bits for this that I am about to test out. Now I know what to expect and how to use them. Having the piece clamped to a sacrificial board for more stability is a great tip. Thanks.
Sick techniques David this is a video I know I will come back to multiple times. Noticed you were getting burning from the router bit, was that just due to the hardness of the wood? Was wondering if lowering the rpms would help with that.
What a great comparison of these three methods! I'm going to be making shaker doors for my kitchen in a few months with the 2-bit set. Have to remember to slow the speed on my router for the big bits. I'm just using hardwood plywood for the panels, but those were some beautiful veneers you had. Maybe when I make some furniture I'll try it. . Looking forward to seeing what kind of sled you make next week.
This is crazy insane bud! Really digging how you been showing various ways to achieve the end result, it really helps me think how I can work through obstacles with my various projects. It’s more than just a how-to make a project you are showing, but how one can work through a particular project one maybe working on in their workshop.
Is there any trick to setting up that yellow push handle? It has a foot and grip and it seems like it could be just as complicated as setting up a bit or blade. I don’t have one nor have I ever used one. Just curious and maybe a suggestion for a video. I need to make a panel door and this video gave me the confidence to try. Thanks David.
I like how in the past I think you have agonized over people saying "but I don't have this tool or that tool so I can't do this" in the podcast. And now it looks like you finally have made it a part of your channel, the last 3 or so videos are how to do things multiple ways and MAN I appreciate it. Hopefully your analytics appreciate it as well. Keep it up my man.
Those joints seem quite loose between the rail and stile, will the glue fill that in and be strong enough? I'm currently tablesaw-less, but own a good router/table, and have a MFT/track saw and band saw, so I'm trying to avoid buying a table saw.
Thanks for showing 3 different ways to make a panel door. I really like the first option since Its a single bit - though I did think of one thing that may be helpful - plow out some of the groove on the table saw with whatever blade you have and then go to the groove with the router - may save the bit and some of the stress on the router. Just a thought. Love the channel - even the "creative \ art stuff". Keep it up!
Awesome video. I have been looking for a router table and yours looks nice. The link in the description sends me to a broken Amazon link. Any chance you would provide the brand or model? Thanks a bunch. Keep up the good work!
I haven’t tried making panel doors, but after watching this I think I’d like to give it a shot! Thanks for motivating me yet again, David! Quick question for you: We sent out our wedding invitations and I was wondering if you received yours? We have had a problem with some invitees not receiving them. Take care.
One word: Duct Tape ! Actually more words: nice video and like always Dan did his thing beautifully. I also love the intro with the bits of the video inside, exciting.
David, I see you got some burning, and it sounded like your router was struggling. Would you reccomend this method now that you have tried it, or do you think the table saw is the way to go?
The only thing left on my miter saw project is making drawer fronts... I was going to just do my typical slab front style but this makes cope and stick look much easier! Bonus points for including the table saw method... I don't have the router bits but now I have no excuse not to try it!
The veneer panels are glued in. It's made of plywood so it's not going to expand and contract. If you were using solid wood you would not glue it in and use spaceballs. A fun trick: if you have those squishy yellow ear protection thingies, you can cut them up and use them as spaceballs.
Even though it is more work, you might want to take multiple passes with light cuts, so the router won't bog down. Better for the router, the bit won't overheat, and you won't scorch the wood (we saw that black endgrain!). Worst case, take 2 passes, with the second pass just a light finish pass.
I would suggest to anyone who has a router table like this maybe upgrade to a 3hp PC or other router of that size. Most PC has adjustable speed control that will help with cutting end grain lumber.
I love it David. Getting ready to make shaker doors myself and have been debating router vs table saw. What HP is your router? I currently have a 3hp in my table
Good question. They all take about the same set up time of just a few minutes. Once you become confident in the technique you probably don’t even need a trial run in scrap.
Here's an amazing woodworking life hack to deal with router bits burning the work piece. Once I started finishing all my projects with a nice top coat of pitch black paint, life became simpler. A little gloomy and depressing... but simpler.
Considering the burn marks on the endgrain happened with both router bits I suppose that they're not dull but that David has a healthy dose of respect for the router and doesn't push the wood through as aggressive as the router and bits can handle?
hehehehe! The truth is... I have a speed dial hooked up to my router. I turned the speed down to reduce burning but for some reason it makes the router bog down. We ended up going back to full speed because it doesn't matter much if it burns.
Awesome stuff! Really liking the new intro. For cutting grooves on the table saw (4:04 ish), how do you keep blade deflection from being a problem when micro-adjusting the fence? I've found that the blade bends inwards slightly when shaving a little off the inside of a groove, making the final groove too large when I cut it into a new piece. (Might just be a function of having a cheap table saw though.) Thanks!
Stub tenon? Although we make the groove first and to ensure a centered panel, we run the groove twice. Although we have a dedicated panels cutter which you can centre and do a single run. This allows you to run your tenon to suit the panel/groove size. I would mark each face side. We use spindles as opposed to router table tho..
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i dont think im ever gonna make panel doors but its nice to see how they are done. and its always nice to see Dan do his thing.
Showing multiple options on methods is really useful, thanks!
new intro sequence is sick!
Thanks!
I really enjoy these videos short simple demonstration.
Groundhog Day is my jam!
Thank you for easy to follow tutorial. I tried making this style door once before and well it was a goat rope. Your technique is way easier and thoroughly explained. Thank you.
David, the way you manage to merge clear, concise instruction with beautiful filmmaking is so impressive. Thanks for doing what you do!
Right on, thank you Jennifer!
Nice work and great safety tip.
Groundhog Day great movie. great job on explaining the door tips and tricks keep up the great work man
This is perfect timing. I have some router bits for this that I am about to test out. Now I know what to expect and how to use them. Having the piece clamped to a sacrificial board for more stability is a great tip. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing and still producing videos. All the best to
Kelly too.
Thank you!
thanks for spending your time to teach us
Great outro! Thanks for sharing the processes!
Always upvote Groundhog Day!!
Good eye!
You are a brilliant teacher
This was fun! This gives me lots to think about on my next projects.
Thank you!
Sick techniques David this is a video I know I will come back to multiple times.
Noticed you were getting burning from the router bit, was that just due to the hardness of the wood? Was wondering if lowering the rpms would help with that.
I'm loving the new format of "Here's a thing I made, and next week we'll use it". Top Job!
What a great comparison of these three methods! I'm going to be making shaker doors for my kitchen in a few months with the 2-bit set. Have to remember to slow the speed on my router for the big bits. I'm just using hardwood plywood for the panels, but those were some beautiful veneers you had. Maybe when I make some furniture I'll try it. . Looking forward to seeing what kind of sled you make next week.
Right on, thanks! Have fun with those kitchen doors!
This is crazy insane bud! Really digging how you been showing various ways to achieve the end result, it really helps me think how I can work through obstacles with my various projects. It’s more than just a how-to make a project you are showing, but how one can work through a particular project one maybe working on in their workshop.
Trying to give everyone options! Thanks!!
Very simple directions! Cool project!
Thanks for making this video, I've been stuck on what kind of door I'm going to make for my medicine cabinet., so this actually helped a LOT!
Right on!
Ghost busters !
Técnicas de router la ventana plegable👍gracias a tu video excelente, maestro
Is there any trick to setting up that yellow push handle? It has a foot and grip and it seems like it could be just as complicated as setting up a bit or blade. I don’t have one nor have I ever used one. Just curious and maybe a suggestion for a video. I need to make a panel door and this video gave me the confidence to try. Thanks David.
Great stuff David
I like how in the past I think you have agonized over people saying "but I don't have this tool or that tool so I can't do this" in the podcast. And now it looks like you finally have made it a part of your channel, the last 3 or so videos are how to do things multiple ways and MAN I appreciate it. Hopefully your analytics appreciate it as well. Keep it up my man.
Thanks Scott!
Super informative, as always. Keep up the good work David!
Love it sir!
20 seconds in and had to pause to say the new intro kicks ass!
Thanks!
Wonderfully
Great video as always, and i loved the intro!!!
This is a great video! Awesome instructions as usual. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Those joints seem quite loose between the rail and stile, will the glue fill that in and be strong enough? I'm currently tablesaw-less, but own a good router/table, and have a MFT/track saw and band saw, so I'm trying to avoid buying a table saw.
Thanks for showing 3 different ways to make a panel door. I really like the first option since Its a single bit - though I did think of one thing that may be helpful - plow out some of the groove on the table saw with whatever blade you have and then go to the groove with the router - may save the bit and some of the stress on the router. Just a thought. Love the channel - even the "creative \ art stuff". Keep it up!
Awesome video. I have been looking for a router table and yours looks nice. The link in the description sends me to a broken Amazon link. Any chance you would provide the brand or model? Thanks a bunch. Keep up the good work!
Great video, David. Lighting also looked super crisp 👍. Keep doing what you do!
After effects for the win!
Particularly the kreg stop block.
Great tips in this video, and sick Nike's!
I haven’t tried making panel doors, but after watching this I think I’d like to give it a shot! Thanks for motivating me yet again, David!
Quick question for you: We sent out our wedding invitations and I was wondering if you received yours? We have had a problem with some invitees not receiving them. Take care.
Awesome! I have not received it but I also haven’t been to the post office in a few days. I will check on Monday. Thanks Bill!
Thanks for the info David! 😃👍🏻👊🏻 .... The doors look pretty sweet too! 😍👌🏻
Thanks Fred!
Another great video my man!
Was wondering what the thickness is of the wood you are using for the rails and stiles?
One word: Duct Tape !
Actually more words: nice video and like always Dan did his thing beautifully. I also love the intro with the bits of the video inside, exciting.
dig the new intro
Nice job
I love Groundhog Day
David, I see you got some burning, and it sounded like your router was struggling. Would you reccomend this method now that you have tried it, or do you think the table saw is the way to go?
Dude, I really like the 'new style'... Keeps getting better and better. Always looking forward to the vids even if I'm not making stuff 😂
Love that David picciuto original score
I prefer cope and stick just because the bevel helps to keep dust from building up easier.
That intro is straight fiya bro! ... and oh yeah, the content ALWAYS kicks ass! Love me some Pa-Choo-DOUGH!!!! Rawk on David!
Right on, thanks!!
Might want to try those bits in a couple passes. Sounded to be struggling doing it all at once.
Agreed
The only thing left on my miter saw project is making drawer fronts... I was going to just do my typical slab front style but this makes cope and stick look much easier! Bonus points for including the table saw method... I don't have the router bits but now I have no excuse not to try it!
Well, I guess it's time to upgrade from plywood doors and edge banding... No more excuses now!
You have edge banding on yours? Check out me fancy
Did you glue the veneer panel in or is it floating? Use spaceballs?
The veneer panels are glued in. It's made of plywood so it's not going to expand and contract. If you were using solid wood you would not glue it in and use spaceballs. A fun trick: if you have those squishy yellow ear protection thingies, you can cut them up and use them as spaceballs.
That router sounded like it wanted to cry!
Sounds a bit under powered
Even though it is more work, you might want to take multiple passes with light cuts, so the router won't bog down. Better for the router, the bit won't overheat, and you won't scorch the wood (we saw that black endgrain!).
Worst case, take 2 passes, with the second pass just a light finish pass.
Was that Groundhogs Day playing in the background? Amazing video as always! Music was killer! Keep it up Dave!
Yep and thanks!
That was a damn sexy opening sequence!!!
At 7:50...
Me: "Man, if I tried to pick all those up I'd ..."
David: Pobody's nerfect.
Haha!
Let me guess, another quality video with great music and useful information? Typical.
Ha!
Always good stuff, and always a good pick me up after some kick in the pants news (news for me, not anyone else)
I would suggest to anyone who has a router table like this maybe upgrade to a 3hp PC or other router of that size. Most PC has adjustable speed control that will help with cutting end grain lumber.
Awesome video. Do you use a fat bottom, I mean FLAT bottom blade for the majority of your cuts? Or do you save it for these types of projects?
I save it for these type of cuts. The blade is kinda costly so I use it sparingly to save on sharpening
You should sample that router wind down sound for a nasty drop in a song.
Absolutely 100% yes!
@@MakeSomething I'm going to hold you to that!
Every time you say flat bottom grind, I hear Queen playing in my head
Get on your bikes and ride!
That has to be the new 'Sand in the place that you live' 🤘
I love it David. Getting ready to make shaker doors myself and have been debating router vs table saw.
What HP is your router? I currently have a 3hp in my table
Awesome! Not sure of the horsepower but it’s definitely smaller than 3hp.
Excellent video David - approx times (inc setup) for each method?
Good question. They all take about the same set up time of just a few minutes. Once you become confident in the technique you probably don’t even need a trial run in scrap.
Checked it!!!
Great video with very helpful tips as always. Oh, and get some duct tape apparently. Keep doin what you do.
Did I see you glue those panels into the frames? If so, is that because you used veneered plywood? Or, did I miss something else?
I did glue them in. If I were using solid wood I would not glue.
I like when you show different methods, especially the cheap ones! Sadly I don't have all the nice tools you do.
Hey,l man the router burns a wood, I believe Its not good. Cool video by the way, and lovely veneer!
The router burn a wood eh?
oh dang I just checked it ✓
🙌
Here's an amazing woodworking life hack to deal with router bits burning the work piece. Once I started finishing all my projects with a nice top coat of pitch black paint, life became simpler. A little gloomy and depressing... but simpler.
Is that a Woodworker I in your Kapex?
Not sure the model but it is a Forrest blade. It actually has too many teeth and sometimes burns the wood.
The question is, how do I do this with just a circular saw and a router
What's the HP of the router? It seems like it's set way too low or not too powerful.
7.5 HP, 220 V.
@@MakeSomething holy crap I didnt even know that was a thing. Is it just at a really low setting?
@@MakeSomething actually Google doesnt seem to think your answer is real 😉
Considering the burn marks on the endgrain happened with both router bits I suppose that they're not dull but that David has a healthy dose of respect for the router and doesn't push the wood through as aggressive as the router and bits can handle?
hehehehe! The truth is... I have a speed dial hooked up to my router. I turned the speed down to reduce burning but for some reason it makes the router bog down. We ended up going back to full speed because it doesn't matter much if it burns.
Maybe you should make a blooper video could be entertaining
Awesome stuff! Really liking the new intro. For cutting grooves on the table saw (4:04 ish), how do you keep blade deflection from being a problem when micro-adjusting the fence? I've found that the blade bends inwards slightly when shaving a little off the inside of a groove, making the final groove too large when I cut it into a new piece. (Might just be a function of having a cheap table saw though.) Thanks!
I haven’t had that issue. Are you using a thin kerf blade? I wonder if a full kerf will help.
@@MakeSomething Nope, full 1/8 inch. It's kinda dull though, which might be the problem. (Rookie mistake, I know, haha)
Cope and Stick. UK = Scribe and Profile. Two great nations separated by a common language.
I didn’t even know! Thanks Ron!
It's a shame really.
Stub tenon? Although we make the groove first and to ensure a centered panel, we run the groove twice. Although we have a dedicated panels cutter which you can centre and do a single run. This allows you to run your tenon to suit the panel/groove size. I would mark each face side.
We use spindles as opposed to router table tho..
Your cutting to slow and burning the wood with the router bits which will shorten the bits life.
Who's in your house?
(you forgot to say it but I had your back)
Thanks for saving me!
Norm Abrams says he would have done all of the cuts in two passes....
Dan, will you please pick up the duct tape from the store already?!
We got some!!! The white board has been erased!
And you just don’t get it, you keep it cope and stick it.
Took a second but I finally got it! Local H!
dominos?