@@RusseWillisthey do that even if I fly to the side lol They either all go to the same side I’m climbing at or they killed my entire team by the time I’m there at the battlefield
@@firestar7890 It would make sense for them to be at a lower br due to the flight performance of the British phantoms, and the fact that they have Aim 7E2s, not the Aim 7F. I fail to see how exactly is the British phantoms even considered equal to other PD planes like the Viggen D, Mig 23 ML(A or D), U.S. F4J, F4S, Mirage f1C, Tornado F3 and ADV, and Kfir C7 that are at the same or 11.7 br. Each one is much better than the British phantom in both flight performance and weaponry. The only way for the British phantoms to remain at 12.0br would be if it got Aim 9Ls. In its current state it is practically an 11.3br aircraft at the minimum.
The aim9d has got to be one of the best missiles at the br, and its on a strong airframe after the wingrip changes. Definite overlook on gaijoobles part.
Personally i think they missed bringing this up because the F8E at 10.3 previously was just better with the wing ripping not being as big an issue and it having Aim-9C's. Give it time and this should go up too
The D draken is also in a good spot staying at 10.3 while the primium XS is now 11.3. Yeah 2 less missles and no flairs, but you still got the nutty flight performance and since everything popular around it moved up it’s basically been moved down. (Oh and Grippy A is gaming at 13.0 being able to face 12.0 premium wall)
@@MrBosszillaGaming You could be in a Mirage IIIC which seems similar but mostly worse in every way. I might like magic 1s better than 9Ds. Especially since they buffed the magic range whenever that was.
Love this plane. It was my main grinder to get to top tier. Almost never ripped my wings in it, and got plenty of kills in up tiers to 11.0 (before the update). Flying up to 5000m and picking off players far below with AIM-9Ds will never get old.
Gaijin should put more separation between: missiles or not, flares and no flares, radar missiles and not. If they mix different eras, it's a mess. There are subsonics jets without missiles and CM that fight at 10.0
@@robertgaudet7407 Yeah that also sucks. To be fair, I'm sure IRL the US had some kind of policy in place for a while that limited the level of technology they sold to other NATO nations, so I could believe they only sold France, Belgium, etc. AIM-9B at first. The Soviets did the exact same with export models of their aircraft.
The Super Etendard is still 10.0 I think. It has really good flight performance for an attacker, two Magic 1, DEFA, 180 countermeasures and no afterburner allows it to bring about 10 minutes of fuel.
It’s funny to me that all these changes happen as I got to the F8U-2 and it becomes one of the best and funnest planes. Sadly I’m on vacation and only have access to war thunder mobile and my premium account expires later this week
After versing this thing all the time in my MIG-21 i had to have a look for myself, on paper it looks insane and yep it's OP at 10.0 tbh. I'm not a great air player but i have over a 3.0K/D in this thing, maybe it's just the event bringing out scrubs who knows
similar case is the m3c, r530 is actually great at 10.0 with real standoff capability compared to contemporary fox1s, and the only jet that really poses a threat to it is the crusader itself
Also having the F-8E in game, it makes 0 sense to have this thing with flares or AIM-9Ds... It would perfectly make sense at 10.0 like that, but Gaijin will never remove anything in order to balance things.
I was doing some testing with the wings with diff fuel amounts and you can get to 15gs before you snap your wings now so pretty much will never happen in a normal match as you'd have to be rolling and pulling like crazy for it to happen with a very low fuel load
Been passively grinding the F8U but now after the decal release and the br changes I'm gonna chug it out tonight. Lets ball. (I just saw a person with only 4 days and the first 20 vehicles were premiums wtf)
crazy how the f-16a (BE) is 13.3 with no SARH or ARH missiles (higher BR than the F-15a/j/baz) also JH-7 gets the optimal A-A loadout stock making the other air to air missile modifications useles
The fact that the mig 15 or yak30 faces this constantly baffles me. No flares, an engine and climb rate so bad you have to take minimum fuel to even keep up with a realistic top speed of 700kmh and a turn rate that doesn’t matter because all you face is boom and zoom. At the end of the match this plane
Abismal balancing, they literally remove the wing rip issue (idk why??? to my knowldege it's real) and kept it at 10.0, when it has better performance than the F8E just no radar missiles
I am not a good pilot.. My progression stopped at the F8U -2 because to me it's really hard to make it work... I didn't play it for half a year or so.. so maybe I should revisit it.. this thing killed all the fun for me... With its stoooopid wings... they fixed them hm? .. I will give it a try.
yes they fixed them the stock grind its just horrible, 2 aim9bs, 4 aim9bs, get almost all of the mods tiers, aim9ds and its when the fun begins to make and use of the aim9ds you try to go to the sides, maybe to go to your base and wait the rush bombers to appear, use missiles and rearm if not, wait for everyone to go down and select objectives, flareless and careless aircraft
Try the J35XS, its 11.3 now... Yes the same fucking BR as the Viggen and in the same Br bracket with the F-14, late F-4s and late Mig 23s.... And you dont even have an RWR
to me it doesn’t make sense why the C viggen didn’t go up to 11.7. Its funny how both the kfir canard and j35xs went to 11.3 but the f-5e gets to be at 11.0
8:36 I'm not that new... Okay yes I am and I suck, but I gained knowledge and now after 3 days I can dodge missiles, also somehow I survived the rest of my team 🤣
Only getting a crit on that A-10 at 9:41 and then immediately getting the kill stolen made me mad just watching. I would've stopped playing the game for a few hours after that shit.
I hated playing the f-8s because the slightest sustained turn (barely turning) ripped wings. I’m just sad that my beloved f-16aj went up to 13.0, it should have stayed at 12.0 because it only has aim-7f and aim-9l going against bvr😢for balancing reasons, gaijin should at least give aim-9m to be competitive
After a bit of testing i found out that the F8U rips its wings at 20G. (In Test Drive and dont ask how the hell i managed it. I think I did W + D + E. (E for Yaw Right)).
Feels like these br changes were incredibly rushed. I dont understand how this thing is almost an entire br spread lower than the F4C. Feels like a big panic move by gaijin.
dude even before the change all u had to do was neg g every 3 seconds above 900 km/h this plane was so good before the patch people just did not wanna learn it
I just bought 150 ge for double price but Im now a proud owner of THE decal and it worth buying ge for double price trust me😂(the decal is cool asf and it’ll be on all of my planes)
i have no idea why this jet didnt go up.... with the new wing rip its insanely busted bc the only reason it was 10.0 to begin with IS the wing rip so with that being fixed its the best plane in the lobby 90% of the time and not only that but you get SO many downteirs
“I’m bait for all my teammates” literally 95% of my games
yeah just go side at the beginning and com in seconde wave.. if u go in first everybody go on you and u play defensive
@@RusseWillis would definitely work if my team didn’t either steamroll the other team or get steamrolled.
@@wiktorRayal 🤷 I play like that and I have 2/5 kill par games
@@RusseWillis I went 2nd wave and I still got a lot of attentions which leads me playing defensive
@@RusseWillisthey do that even if I fly to the side lol
They either all go to the same side I’m climbing at or they killed my entire team by the time I’m there at the battlefield
This thing is lower br than the F4C btw, gaijin is cooking too hard
Not only lower but 0.7 BR lower now lmao. You need almost full uptier to see F-4C now which is wild
They are not cooking, they are burning the meal.
@@SmoggyFroggy they have burnt the meal, the kitchen, and the first two stories of the house
As we say in sweden. Nu är det kokta fläsket stekt (the cooked pork is now burnt basically😅)
@@jez_77it doesn’t have radar missles
Fixed the wing rip issue a little bit, kept it at 10.0. Gaijin is clearly biased toward the _Meughh :D_ jet
It get's slightly worse. If you RTB to the forward airfield you get an airspawn.
didnt that exist before the update?
@@savvas_1367no, only for carrier landings in non-naval planes before update.
@@savvas_1367no
Only with some maps i think
Only with the tiny bases because most jets can't even take off from them, so it gives you a low air spawn instead
The brit tree has me with two 12.0 rank 7s and an 11.7 in rank 8, this br change was ruuushed
ranks don’t really matter in terms of br bc that one 11.7 is the tornado gr.1 which is a strike aircraft and not arb focused.
FGR2 sucks at 12.0
@@bigmemer4398 i personally think it should be at 12.0 with the other early pd phantoms. Any lower and it doesnt really make sense to me.
@@firestar7890 so it makes sense fighting amraams and even more maneuverable planes than you? this change was terrible
@@firestar7890 It would make sense for them to be at a lower br due to the flight performance of the British phantoms, and the fact that they have Aim 7E2s, not the Aim 7F. I fail to see how exactly is the British phantoms even considered equal to other PD planes like the Viggen D, Mig 23 ML(A or D), U.S. F4J, F4S, Mirage f1C, Tornado F3 and ADV, and Kfir C7 that are at the same or 11.7 br. Each one is much better than the British phantom in both flight performance and weaponry. The only way for the British phantoms to remain at 12.0br would be if it got Aim 9Ls. In its current state it is practically an 11.3br aircraft at the minimum.
5:03 nice message in chat
Your average wt chat
The French delta wing with 2 irccm missiles and also 2sarh missile at 11.3 is so stupidly op
What French plane
@@kizvy prem, there's also a TT version
@@notfunny3397 are you talking about the f1c? That’s 12.0 in arb and 11.7 in sim
the mirage f1s all moved up and also the 530f is almost always a one chaff
@@kizvy guess not cuz he said delta wing
5:03 chat wilding
😮💨
What's wrong with migs- ooooooooh
Honestly love chat.
The aim9d has got to be one of the best missiles at the br, and its on a strong airframe after the wingrip changes. Definite overlook on gaijoobles part.
strong airframe with both flares and chaff and unparalleled high alt performance
The wing ripping buff isnt just a little buffer before your wing rips, it just doesn't rip most of the time.
Personally i think they missed bringing this up because the F8E at 10.3 previously was just better with the wing ripping not being as big an issue and it having Aim-9C's. Give it time and this should go up too
Or America bought Gaijin company. :D
@@shouldercem7195I wish. Maybe then the Abrams would get fixed! Lol
The D draken is also in a good spot staying at 10.3 while the primium XS is now 11.3. Yeah 2 less missles and no flairs, but you still got the nutty flight performance and since everything popular around it moved up it’s basically been moved down. (Oh and Grippy A is gaming at 13.0 being able to face 12.0 premium wall)
the j35d is extremely overtiered. i shouldnt be trying to dodge 9ls without flares
@@MrBosszillaGaming You could be in a Mirage IIIC which seems similar but mostly worse in every way. I might like magic 1s better than 9Ds. Especially since they buffed the magic range whenever that was.
Love this plane. It was my main grinder to get to top tier. Almost never ripped my wings in it, and got plenty of kills in up tiers to 11.0 (before the update). Flying up to 5000m and picking off players far below with AIM-9Ds will never get old.
I love the “myehh!”
Gaijin should put more separation between: missiles or not, flares and no flares, radar missiles and not.
If they mix different eras, it's a mess.
There are subsonics jets without missiles and CM that fight at 10.0
0:20 Chinese premium A-5 with two magic 1 its alright too
the french one without countermeasures is somehow the same BR
Yeah cuz the F-8E(FN) sucks lol
The French also get Aim-9bs instead of Aim-9es on their F-100D and it's the same BR as the US one.
@@robertgaudet7407 Yeah that also sucks.
To be fair, I'm sure IRL the US had some kind of policy in place for a while that limited the level of technology they sold to other NATO nations, so I could believe they only sold France, Belgium, etc. AIM-9B at first. The Soviets did the exact same with export models of their aircraft.
I love playing the av8a now cause it’s just a funny jet and it’s br didn’t change and can fight so many flareless jets
Joob man is doing joob things
The J7E is still 11.0
shhh, no one should know that
shut up before they increase it man XD
Glad they fixed the wing rip... I got extremely tired of having my wings rip off with the slightest of aspect changes...
I love how the best tiers of War thunder Air RB is Saber and Migs(early jets) to 10.3 BR jets like the F8s
a month later this thing is still at 10.0 terrorizing everything around it. Giajin balance at its finest.
The Super Etendard is still 10.0 I think. It has really good flight performance for an attacker, two Magic 1, DEFA, 180 countermeasures and no afterburner allows it to bring about 10 minutes of fuel.
10.3 and 140CMs now. The latter of which is almost certainly a bug but half of this plane is still dev server quality.
It’s funny to me that all these changes happen as I got to the F8U-2 and it becomes one of the best and funnest planes. Sadly I’m on vacation and only have access to war thunder mobile and my premium account expires later this week
yeah its craxy how everyone now loves it after calling it trash before
Yeah every single time I play 9.0-9.7 im always in a 10.0-9.0 match
2:27 "meh(:" very inspirational, indeed.
After versing this thing all the time in my MIG-21 i had to have a look for myself, on paper it looks insane and yep it's OP at 10.0 tbh. I'm not a great air player but i have over a 3.0K/D in this thing, maybe it's just the event bringing out scrubs who knows
similar case is the m3c, r530 is actually great at 10.0 with real standoff capability compared to contemporary fox1s, and the only jet that really poses a threat to it is the crusader itself
MEH - joob somewhere
Also having the F-8E in game, it makes 0 sense to have this thing with flares or AIM-9Ds... It would perfectly make sense at 10.0 like that, but Gaijin will never remove anything in order to balance things.
I was doing some testing with the wings with diff fuel amounts and you can get to 15gs before you snap your wings now so pretty much will never happen in a normal match as you'd have to be rolling and pulling like crazy for it to happen with a very low fuel load
God but I do love the Crusader. It’s sex with Sidewinders.
Now if they would just give the F-8E some additional camo choices.
As soon as I saw that decal I knew I needed it.
The MiG-23M with 12 countermeasures and R-23s is at 11.3
With the wing rip changes this thing has better flight performance than the F-8E, and it's a full .7 lower
11:01
my new favorite word after "BINK!"
2:47 horrible launch
The mirage 3c at 10.0 is really good too but no flares
9:45 this has been my experience as well lately
When everyone's Mi-Lan, but nobody's Mi-Wifi
Been passively grinding the F8U but now after the decal release and the br changes I'm gonna chug it out tonight. Lets ball.
(I just saw a person with only 4 days and the first 20 vehicles were premiums wtf)
8:26 BRO I KNOW POWERPOKID 2 HES IN A GROUP IM IN AND ITS NOT EVEN WAR THUNDER LOL WHAT
Joob... You are my favorite CC because of F8❤❤
crazy how the f-16a (BE) is 13.3 with no SARH or ARH missiles (higher BR than the F-15a/j/baz)
also JH-7 gets the optimal A-A loadout stock making the other air to air missile modifications useles
Grinded the French one, havent tried it yet. Will do now
The wing ripping crap is kinda better but I’m still on edge about turning my jets turn hard😂
The Mirage IIIC dropped to 10.0 which it wild to me
How do I avoid breaking my wings in the FU-2?
They also nerfed the flight model on the F-8E, but left the F8U untouched. It's just a better plane now
Meanwhile the j35xs at 11.3 for some reason being shat on by everything
The fact that the mig 15 or yak30 faces this constantly baffles me. No flares, an engine and climb rate so bad you have to take minimum fuel to even keep up with a realistic top speed of 700kmh and a turn rate that doesn’t matter because all you face is boom and zoom. At the end of the match this plane
The mig15 and yak 30 can’t see the f8u lol.
Did you know? if you land on the short runaway you accualy get a air spawn when you rearm.
Yea noticed that yesterday I was like fuck yea
Im pretty sure its the only vehicle that gets that feature
2 days ago I got 8 kills in a downtier in this thing in a one fuel load including a 1v3. 9 total. Wasn’t even spaded. Funny plane rn
How he made markers to always (from any distance) display full vehicle name (vehicle modification) like: "A-10A [L]"???
custom localization. Jaek has a tutorial on how to do it in his discord server.
try a5c ... 10.3 2-magic´s 1 18 flares.. extreme energy retention
just used your link the deacal works!! I can get so many more kills and SL
Abismal balancing, they literally remove the wing rip issue (idk why??? to my knowldege it's real) and kept it at 10.0, when it has better performance than the F8E just no radar missiles
Brother gaijin needs to add a reward for baiting enemies clearly
The draken is a 11,7 now with 12 flares max, 6 rear aspect ripoff aim-9’s 😂
And bison is 12,7 now I think which is insain
I am not a good pilot.. My progression stopped at the F8U -2 because to me it's really hard to make it work...
I didn't play it for half a year or so.. so maybe I should revisit it..
this thing killed all the fun for me... With its stoooopid wings... they fixed them hm? .. I will give it a try.
yes they fixed them
the stock grind its just horrible, 2 aim9bs, 4 aim9bs, get almost all of the mods tiers, aim9ds and its when the fun begins
to make and use of the aim9ds you try to go to the sides, maybe to go to your base and wait the rush bombers to appear, use missiles and rearm
if not, wait for everyone to go down and select objectives, flareless and careless aircraft
Try the J35XS, its 11.3 now... Yes the same fucking BR as the Viggen and in the same Br bracket with the F-14, late F-4s and late Mig 23s.... And you dont even have an RWR
Feel ya man i used it to grind the swedish tech tree but right now its not worth using
to me it doesn’t make sense why the C viggen didn’t go up to 11.7. Its funny how both the kfir canard and j35xs went to 11.3 but the f-5e gets to be at 11.0
5:04 the guy in a chat 💀
There’s no way this ever gets fixed honestly. Perfectly balanced as all things should be
can we pleaes have more f8 content
I have a hard time playing planes that wing rip because I like to try to get away with things I really shouldn’t get away with
luckily they fixed the paper-wing issue :)
They quite literally don't rip anymore at any speed.
@@Arkhmar it was if you pulled too much G not overspeed
@@a_catfish5180 That's what I'm saying, now you could pull 10g or even more above mach 1 without ripping.
two kill timothy on the beat yo
i dont have the money but joob mark my words i will get your bootiful decal one day
8:36 I'm not that new... Okay yes I am and I suck, but I gained knowledge and now after 3 days I can dodge missiles, also somehow I survived the rest of my team 🤣
Only getting a crit on that A-10 at 9:41 and then immediately getting the kill stolen made me mad just watching. I would've stopped playing the game for a few hours after that shit.
Truly a live *mweeeh* reaction
Literally my favorite
Just noticed the chat at 5:08 lol, you might want to censor that
The Israeli premium A4E seems kinda OP at its BR too
I hated playing the f-8s because the slightest sustained turn (barely turning) ripped wings. I’m just sad that my beloved f-16aj went up to 13.0, it should have stayed at 12.0 because it only has aim-7f and aim-9l going against bvr😢for balancing reasons, gaijin should at least give aim-9m to be competitive
After a bit of testing i found out that the F8U rips its wings at 20G. (In Test Drive and dont ask how the hell i managed it. I think I did W + D + E. (E for Yaw Right)).
Feels like these br changes were incredibly rushed. I dont understand how this thing is almost an entire br spread lower than the F4C. Feels like a big panic move by gaijin.
I would play this thing if i wasn’t already traumatized from the paper mache wings
Just neg g for a second and you’ll be completely fine now
I pulled 15G’s at one point 😂
dude even before the change all u had to do was neg g every 3 seconds above 900 km/h this plane was so good before the patch people just did not wanna learn it
can you play the J35D next? it's another plane that stayed at the same BR after the patch.
no more hello jooblets? 😭
f-8u being an overall better flying f8e while being 0.7 br lower is nuts...
5:08 chat goes crazy
i like the one at 10.7 more since it wont rip itself apart in a turn and has to goofy aim9cs
it doesn't rip itself apart anymore, didn't rip once while playing for this video. Even pulled 17gs at one point
"best 10.0" (*F104G in the distance*)
This is far better than an f104 lol
@@_Joob nuh uh
Looks like he missed the funny word at 5:04
wooohooo thanks to the br changes the f104j is finally playable
The French one doesn’t have flares
But it has Matra 530's (which are better than AIM-9C's) and Magic 1's at 10.0.
FYI the F-8E could use the AIM-9L irl up until retirement
Could you play the F3H-2?
Binny Fouterrrrr
Why do you like the f-8 so much? Just wondering you do quite alot of videos on it.
Was so excited for gaijin to fix 9.3 but nope. Exclusively 9.3-10.3 getting dominated :/
I just bought 150 ge for double price but Im now a proud owner of THE decal and it worth buying ge for double price trust me😂(the decal is cool asf and it’ll be on all of my planes)
I got 9 kills with the f8 yesterday I was listening to fortunate sun
Ngl some 3 were stolen kills
>Meanwhile in the French TT
>No flares/CM
>Only quad missile is 4 aim-9b
>cann't take 2 aim-9b and 2 other missiles
>higher BR
why
Flares afterburner 4 aim9ds at 10.0 lmao
Mountain Joob.
i have no idea why this jet didnt go up.... with the new wing rip its insanely busted bc the only reason it was 10.0 to begin with IS the wing rip so with that being fixed its the best plane in the lobby 90% of the time and not only that but you get SO many downteirs
I dunk on these in my 9.3 Ariete so can it rly be that bad?
We all love the meeeeh!