@@funkymonk255 Nah its just that everyone would see how the retro library shits on everything being made now (and everything made since 2010) and the market would shift dramatically
I’m so stoked about sly cooper ! I hope they do the trilogy and hopefully the games do well and they decide to do something anything with sly in the future
If they gonna put ratchet & clank 1 please not the greatest hits version! I don’t want to do the wall glitch and break my game for millions of bolts. I just want the easy way, talking to the hoverboard racer girl with the robot costume.
@@tabbofii now that I’m in my mid 20’s and don’t play as much multiplayer games as I used to, trophies give me a good incentive to play through single player games. Gives you something to work towards.
Sony has realized that PSOne games, PSP....without trophies, sell less in the Store. You can't sell PSN Plus Premiun and see that the classics catalog has no trophy support.
@@neilknightley4703no normal person cares yet you’re following a channel who loves getting trophies. I guess he’s not normal. Oh no what is he going to do now?!
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 4, Spiderman 1+2, Peter Jackson's King Kong, the original Ratchet and Clank trilogy and God of War 1+2 all with trophy support would be insane.
@@detectivemadoka69420Indeed, I just have a ps5 to play with friends lmao, PC nowadays is the definitive choice if you want the best gaming experience possible.
One interesting thing is that in sly cooper the binocular camera isn't inverted but the normal one is and if you invert the camera via the emulator settings the binoculars don't change
It's mindblowing none of the PlayStation versions got re-released, and that series started there. If Embracer Group wanted some quick easy money off the TimeSplitters IP, all they had to do was allow that, instead of trying to force it into a Fortnite mold
And Second Sight, Manhunt 2, Ghost Hunter, Shadow Man 2, Freedom Fighters, Kya Dark Lineage, The Tak games, Batman Vengeance, Chase The Express, Fur Fighters Viggo's Revenge, Psi Ops The Mindgate Conspiracy and Area 51.
There has to be something stopping them from moving it current platforms. The game makes so much sense to have, it has a huge fan base, and would be an auto win. The fact that it still hasn't been ported or remastered is baffling.
@@cosmosofinfinity Didn't they say that the Fortnite-esque thing was only to have a Timesplitters game be approved for development and appease shareholders while they plan on slowly changing it to a reimagining of the TS2? I feel like people miss that part of the info when talking about the cancelled TS game.
The Tomb Raider Legend HD looks blurry too, or more like overexposed. It had this filter that makes everything look like it's glowing, like some Spielberg films. I think because of that, no matter the resolution, it will always have this unfocused look to it.
@@giggitygoo3000 I have the PS3 version as well, and it looks noticeable less sharp than Anniversary because of that filter. Yes, it was on purpose. Same thing was done to some of their cut scenes of MSG3. It was their way to make it look more cinematic, at the time.
It looks sharper because the PS2 port to PS5 is the original games, where as the collection on PS3 lowered the thickness of the character and environment black outlines overall.
@@TimDespairBear11Yeah, I got to the Toy Barn boss last I played. It looks like the trophies don't pop if you go back and beat something over that you already did.
And they fixed some minor graphical bugs the original version had so now I hope they pick up the pace in re-releasing PS1, PSP and PS2 games. There's still plenty of good ones left abandoned.
Hey Ryan New sub to the channel over the past few months as an avid lover of all games with the PlayStation family being a special place for me. Keep up the awesome videos and content, this personal and direct look at new/special launches like this are very insightful and bring a lot of personality and connection with your viewer of feeling like we are apart of experiencing the same things together. Thank you !!
I really hope that this will finally start a retro wave for ps5. Tbh I do wish sony would just drop the ps4 support for those games so they can go all out on stability and improvements, make it like the DS/3DS situation back then with Nintendo.
@@newjackgaming88 well it can't as not all ps2 games were on the original xbox, not by a long shot. Where is silent hill 2, god of war, gta3, timesplitters 1, the bouncer, dynasty warriors. tony hawk. The original xbox just doesnt have anywhere near the number of games as the ps2. But yes the xbox does have better backwards compatibility, mostly because all of it's consoles have had the same pc architecture
It's a solid start to what will hopefully lead to more PS2 games. I've already downloaded them for free just because but I will turn around and purchase them.
Yea Sly cooper is one of my favourites sure it may not look as good as the hd collection but it's still very impressive I don't have a PS3 but I'm glad we are getting these and hopefully get sly 2 and 3
I just have a small 1080p monitor for my ps5 setup so it looks good to my eyes. Hopefully they continue to make improvements like they have with the ps1 and psp emulation. Trophy support for all three games and tomb raider and Star Wars being in widescreen is a pleasant surprise. Overall happy and excited for more games to get added cause I’m having a blast with these first 3 already.
It's worth mentioning Tomb Raider Legends was originally released on PS2, Xbox & Xbox 360 but not PS3 until the Tomb Traider Trilogy several years later. The PS2 version is the version used here whereas for Xbox One/Xbox Series the Xbox 360 version is used.
@@mirkom8275I'm of the opinion that the 6th gen version is better. I've read some interviews from back in the day. PS2 was the lead platform. 360 came later so they just added enhancements. Some of the effects are neat by themselves, but they also change the overall look in a way I don't like very much. It's worth noting also that the PS3 and 360 version run poorly on original hardware, while a lot of the effects are broken on PC.
@vesselinkrastev Looking back, a lot of cross generation games of that era objectively looked better, but others weren't because the enhancements negatively affected the atmosphere of the game. I'll see for myself when I eventually play Tomb Raider Legends one day along most of the other games in the franchise that I haven't played yet.
We need more! So many great classics I want to purchase! Also how about remastering PS3 games so we can play them natively on PS4 and PS5 without streaming!
It's 960p like all other PS2 classics. People forgot what 480i/480p look like. The reason people are complaining is because many PS2 games had this exaggered blur effect that doesn't upscale good and blurs the image a bit but it's still sharper than the HD version on PS3.
7:29 you know i gotta wonder. if what we now consider inverted controls were the norm are these really inverted controls or did we invert the control norms ourselves and the new controls are the real inverted controls.
Gran Turismo 3 and 4, and Rainbow Six 3 being added as PS2 games would make me VERY happy. Those games along with the classic Star Wars Battlefronts and LEGO games were my childhood
Gran Turismo might have licensing issues. Because real cars. Also I doubt we'll get Classic Battlefront as Stand-alone releases when we just got the compilation.
@@GmNdWtchr96 Ok, I guess that makes sense with GT. And yeah sorry I didn’t mean to sound like I wanted the individual BF games lol, I agree the Classic Collection already fulfills that purpose.
@@GmNdWtchr96if only Sony used disc's If they used disc's for backwards compatibility then licensing wouldn't matter as licensing only applies to digital purchases That's why on Xbox Forza Horizon 1-3 and Forza Motorsport 5-7 are playable only with a disc
If the performance also drops on PS4 Pro when Enhancements are on, then it suggests a CPU issue. Emulation can be CPU intensive on PC, so it wouldn't surprise me if this also the case here.
I'm guessing especially PS2 emulation can be intense. I've having the hardest time emulating it. It's always the same issue. Low FPS. Graphics and everything else are great. I've tried two PCs and even a powerful Galaxy S22 Ultra.
@@WickedRibbon Would you mind sharing your PC specs? Perhaps it'll give me a better idea. One was indeed an older PC, but the other was a fairly new HP laptop. Perhaps I just need a more powerful PC.
@@Hypno-Swag I'm running a 7800 XT + Ryzen 5800X3D. Massive overkill for PS2 emulation. That said, I've also run PCSX2 on much lower spec. Make sure you're using one of the nightly builds. They are massively improved over the - now outdated - stable version.
Love here comes the pain but we never gonna see it because license issues with wrestlers, take two own the wwe video games license and thq is dead (the current thq is nortic games and they already own aew). Also Chris Benoit in it and this is problematic. The only wrestling game i can think can come to the service is rumble roses and it’s basically here comes the pain with dead or alive skin.
You should be able to use your original disc. Microsoft did it right by making the games run better and allow you to use the disc. Instead of buying it again.
People have pointed out in Sly Cooper that the Mz. Ruby rhythm boss fight has been butchered (even more than the HD Collection version). The fight plays out way faster than the music you have to keep in rhythm with, making it more frustrating to complete. This is a clear issue in the way the PS4 is emulating PS2 games. So I hope they won't treat it like the HD Collection and actually patch it this time. For the time being, the best workaround is switching to PAL mode when doing that fight.
no it isn't at all. They completely nerfed the shadows and lighting effects in the PS3 version... best way to play it is the PS2 version on pcsx2 in 4k, widescreen with the no-blur patches..
Oh my god you don’t understand how much of a hassle I went to play that game💀! I don’t have a pc but I had a ps4 and had to wait to get it jailbroken because of my ps version and thankfully it got a jailbreak release and I went straight to downloading it😂!
To me Sly Cooper looks like the PS5 runs the game in 480p, while the OG PS2 ran most games in 480i (some games can do 480p or be forced via Mods, which gives a very similar look on a decent upscaler). PS3 is clearly a lot sharper, so it looks like this is the actual highest ingame resolution. TR on the other hand is 16:9.... on a PS2 game. Which could mean that it ran letterboxed or anamorphic. Which could explain (especially the first option) the more blurry picture
I have noticed that the resolution does look like it's uprendered in Clone Wars. But the uprendering doesn't work in Sly Racoon and Tomb Raider Legends. Those two games are supposed to be uprendered and it just isn't working from what I see. But Clone Wars looks to be 1440p I think?
This is good for people who don't keep consoles but may want to revisit some titles from back in the day. For example I love my hardcopy of Twisted Metal Black but if I ever had to downsize for any reason, Id keep it in the way of the PS5 version (more than likely its a PS4 variant) but its cleaned up so much better. Its not Xbox level convenience but its fine for the now
Just want to quickly interject with Sly 1 at the moment since I'm unsure if its noticable to others, the PS4 version has a significantly higher clock speed compared to every other version of the game. The PS3 remaster runs at 101.7% clock speed, and the PS5 version runs at 100% clock speed when compared against a PS2. The PS4 version however runs at 115.5% clock speed, which is far far faster than the game is intended for (a prime example of this is the Mz Ruby boss fight which is a rhythm game, you will notice it is exponentially harder on PS4 when trying to time the inputs). As speedrunners, we are hoping this gets fixed since clock speed is something that affects the games physics, beyond just "the game is faster". This also means that for every one minute of real time, PS4 is 9 seconds faster for no reason. Posting this here so that people are aware that the heightened clock speed is a bug on the PS4 version only. Unsure why this is the case, maybe the PS4 version was just more sloppily put together, but at the moment we are just hoping for a patch of this since its a dramatic difference to playing the game. Currently I recommend staying at base camp with PS2/PS3, or using the PS5 version to play Sly 1 at its normal intended speed. The PS4 version's clock speed is just very broken at the moment
Now I have each gaming Console on my PS5. Toy story 2 (PS1), Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus (PS2), Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2010 (PS3), Mortal Kombat 11 (PS4) and Resident Evil 4 Remake (PS5)
It's nice to see the older titles on the service that didn't have trophy support finally get them. I can play these games anywhere else with better emulation, so the only draw for me is having that trophy data on my record.
the big issue with some of the ps2 games on ps4 especially, less so on ps5, is also issues with scaling the framebuffer effects, those are what are so hard to emulate, and there are severe issues with scaling framebuffer effects on some games still to this day, playing gta sa on pcsx2 at high render resolutions still does has issues with overlaying the heat haze and blur effect, its like a proto bloom effect and doesnt align with the rendered geometry well at all at high render resolutions and of course none of the fmvs will be easily upscaled if they are being emulated, most of the cutscenes in sly cooper or more so tomb raider will be fmv and heavily compressed and locked to a 480i render due to the source material
Everybody buying $70 games releasing this years while here I am spending all my money on ps1/ps2 games instead of new gen games (only exception was Elden Ring DLC.
Side question: Regarding Toy Story 2 now having trophies, what happens if I am half way through the game? Do trophies I have already done automatically pop? Or do I have to start a new save?
This was a very low effort PS2 emulation. There's no reason why this shouldn't be the best emulator. Even the pc ps2 emulator can make widescreen In terms of BC xbox does a much better job. Heck they even added ray tracing to some old xbox games
GTA LCS, GTA VCS, Def Jam FFNY, Scarface, Godfather, The Getaway, Need for Speed Underground 2 , Most Wanted, and Carbon. The Getaway and The Getaway Black monday. Tough because a lot of the games I want might need their licenses renewed and I don't think Sony or the publishers will pay to renew them.
these consoles could have been sold out if they would only add a emulator in each of them letting you play whatever you already own. but no, they must transform it in something you have to pay for regurarly because you have to own nothing and be happy
@@btwiusearch2 also that, but its also a direction all of them GOT to take in order to stay "in". A direction not based on what the public needs or wants.
@@TheSoulWithin7 exactly I just hope that this generation of gamers has to experience licensing issues so they can finally take it seriously because when we tell them we want backwards compat they tell us old games suck
@@princegroove You should care mate, it's 500 times better than whatever emulator they're using, and it's completely free if you just download the ROMs. Actual official ports or emulated rereleases made by billion-dollar companies are worse than fan projects making no money off of it, let that sink in. Please mate, you can emulate PS2 games on pretty much any decent computer or phone from the last 6 years, I myself have a 5-year-old laptop that can very easily run PS2 games at 4k with all the bells and whistles. You should care because pcsx2 is objectively the better option in literally every department, please go support that instead of this. I mean come on man, you can literally put pcsx2 on an Xbox series, and it emulates PS2 games better than the damn PlayStation. If that's not a wake-up call, I don't know what is.
@@somethingthatisntcringe757 I absolutely don’t care because I invariably purchase the newest Nintendo and PlayStation consoles to play the current and prior generation of games. If I wanna dabble in emulation, etc. I’ll do so on my gaming PC or play retro games on a myriad of classic consoles in my vast collection.
Will definitely play Sly Cooper again! I can think of a few instances in game where rewinds and save states are going to be helpful. ofc would be nice to see high res modes, especially on PS5
was really looking forward to play tomb raider legend, but even sat a good distance away from my 4K TV it looked blurry as hell, i could barely make out what i was doing, felt like i needed glasses! pretty disappointed tbh, they couldn't even up-res these games to 1080p on PS5??
Resident Evil Director's Cut is still behind the subscript paywall for some reason. Recently cut my premium subscript (because it's a total waste of money) and cannot buy REDC for some reason. Only game I noticed that isn't purchasable stand-alone.
Definitely want to see them go back and update the previous PS2 Classics to use this new emulator if there are no major issues with them. Probably won't happen, but it would be nice to see.
The game is 6h long. Mind you. They should have rereleased the ps3 TR LEGEND-anniversary-underworld collection instead. I hope no one buys legend at 20. Love TR but that price is stupid.
The software ps2 classics emulator for both ps4 and ps3 has the EXACT same graphical bugs as the older pcsx2 emulator when you force other games to run through it. I wonder if the new emulator is still the same.
Wish they would just dedicate a full team to PS1/PS2/PSP ports for PSN. Get a few games every month. MS making game improvements with resolution and framerate is awesome and I wish Sony would copy it. Just the trophies, rewind feature and save states are a great addition.
@WllKiedSnake to my understanding it's been a slow crawl when it comes to releasing these games and when they do a lot of them aren't in the best shape. I could be wrong.
It’s currently outsourced. I agree with you though, they need a team dedicated to it, maybe have some Nixxes and Bluepoint developers form a team dedicated to BC.
@Harkins1721 Yeah it's 3 or 4 games a month. Sometimes there are issues, but they are fixed pretty quick. Some games like Resistance Retribution get enhanced further. It now features it's infected mode. Which unlocks different areas and story for the main game. Like an alternative mode.
@@WllKiedSnake Rog, my mistake then. Good to see its 3-4 a month. I just hope this can transfer to PS6 with ease. I really dont want to buy my games for a 3rd to 4th time.
@@onehitsword6800 it’s is It’s on ps+ premium for almost a year (even before when it’s was ps now). But it’s streaming only because sony still keeping the ps4 alive and not making a native ps3 emulator for ps5. This is the reason why the ps2 games took too long to arrive to ps+.
I'm curious to see how this works on the base PS4 and PS4 Pro, especially on the base PS4, some PSP games like Toy Story 3 have very noticeable framerate drops on the base PS4, I'm curious to know how the PS2 emulator handles this especially with enhancements enabled. But I'll be honest, I didn't expect them to release this new version of the PS2 emulator for the PS4 at all, it makes me curious if they ever try to make a PS3 emulator, whether they'll try to make it run on the PS4 or not.
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Fully embracing the PS2 catalog would be both the laziest and most effective way to beef up the PS5 library. So many classics that you could sell.
it would be a pro consumer move though which playstation has been allergic to
@@funkymonk255 Nah its just that everyone would see how the retro library shits on everything being made now (and everything made since 2010) and the market would shift dramatically
@@nescientzero9722Retro>Modern?
Or just look for the ISO, burn a dvd and play on your PS2 👍🏻
@@funkymonk255 how would it be pro consumer if it's just selling the same old shit instead of backwards compatibility lol
I hope they put the original ratchet and clank quadrilogy out
Same here, man
The day that never comes 😢
@@khakishark don't say that there's still hope ;-;
@@oh_sweet you're right 🫡
I'd settle for Tools of Destruction _finally_ getting trophies after all these years...
I’m so stoked about sly cooper ! I hope they do the trilogy and hopefully the games do well and they decide to do something anything with sly in the future
I think we'll probably see the other two - Sucker Punch is a 1st party studio after all, so they already have the rights they need to put it on here.
@@ItsOrnilIndeed now the biggest question is how long it’s gonna take to get the whole trilogy on PS Plus.
@@darkhpokinsngaming8889
I'm hoping we get Sly 2 in July and Sly 3 in August
Same! I downloaded and started it last night; it was such a nostalgic and enjoyable experience.
they need to do all 4. i know people didnt like 4 as much but it was still very enjoyable.
Toy Story 2 Buzz Lightyear to the rescue.
Gets trophies 👍
I want the PS5 version of the Ratchet and Clank Trilogy
If they gonna put ratchet & clank 1 please not the greatest hits version!
I don’t want to do the wall glitch and break my game for millions of bolts. I just want the easy way, talking to the hoverboard racer girl with the robot costume.
It’s on the store I thought?
@@WurpleOfficialno
PLEASE
@@WurpleOfficial it is only on the ps3 store, which is odd. But I don't bother to question sony anymore 😂
I really like how they went back and added Platinum Trophies to other old titles like Toy Story 2 & Toy Story 3
No way, didn’t know that. I’ll have to check that out
Trophies are cancer
@@tabbofii now that I’m in my mid 20’s and don’t play as much multiplayer games as I used to, trophies give me a good incentive to play through single player games. Gives you something to work towards.
Toy Story 3 does have a platinum on the PS3 version
@@myagi20000yes it does
Sony has realized that PSOne games, PSP....without trophies, sell less in the Store. You can't sell PSN Plus Premiun and see that the classics catalog has no trophy support.
No normal person cares about "trophies"
Sure @@neilknightley4703Let's just dismiss a whole lot of people just because YOU think it doesn't matter 🤡
@@neilknightley4703trophies are gay as fuck, id rather actual emulations rather than repackaged remasters being passed off as “classics”
@@neilknightley4703no normal person cares yet you’re following a channel who loves getting trophies. I guess he’s not normal. Oh no what is he going to do now?!
Whether you guys like it or not, the facts are the facts, they sell less without trophy support.
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 4, Spiderman 1+2, Peter Jackson's King Kong, the original Ratchet and Clank trilogy and God of War 1+2 all with trophy support would be insane.
sheeeeesh
I wouldn't expect anything with licensed music for obvious reasons
Add Deadlocked to the list
Would love The Sands of Time trilogy as well
The ratchets and gows all got trophies for the ps3 but still nice for people that want to try it now though
Sony, seriously... y'all couldn't upscale these to at least 1080p?
Ikr, Sony should learn from PCSX2 Devs imo
Even Xbox does that. This is why PC will always be the best.
I mean didn't they upscale gow3 remastered to 1080p?
@@detectivemadoka69420Indeed, I just have a ps5 to play with friends lmao, PC nowadays is the definitive choice if you want the best gaming experience possible.
Fr I tried playing Thrillville OTR hoping it’d be like the Xbox 360 version, PS2 version…..
Thanks you for this great breakdown and walkthrough, Mystic! Keep checking out these special releases in this format, really works!
One interesting thing is that in sly cooper the binocular camera isn't inverted but the normal one is and if you invert the camera via the emulator settings the binoculars don't change
Sly Cooper was the fastest buy in my entire life lol
Sly is a classic.
Can’t wait for Sly 2 and 3.
Buying Sly Cooper instantly
Couldn't buy classic game nintendo switch you have to a online subscription to play classic games sound like nintendo Is more greedy then sony
@@1992TheDiamondWolf I wish Nintendo would release some of those for purchase so we can own them forever again for nostalgia.
@@1992TheDiamondWolfit’s a shame Virtual Console is infinitely better than NSO.
@@SamiAmTH-camDude... You never OWN something that's digital...
@@larssawatzki1538 That's very true. I still own my ps3 collection and ps2 version of it also just in case.
Just give me TimeSplitters.
It's mindblowing none of the PlayStation versions got re-released, and that series started there. If Embracer Group wanted some quick easy money off the TimeSplitters IP, all they had to do was allow that, instead of trying to force it into a Fortnite mold
And Second Sight, Manhunt 2, Ghost Hunter, Shadow Man 2, Freedom Fighters, Kya Dark Lineage, The Tak games, Batman Vengeance, Chase The Express, Fur Fighters Viggo's Revenge, Psi Ops The Mindgate Conspiracy and Area 51.
There has to be something stopping them from moving it current platforms. The game makes so much sense to have, it has a huge fan base, and would be an auto win. The fact that it still hasn't been ported or remastered is baffling.
@@thecasualcanuck4590 You can get Timesplitters 2 and 3 over on the Series X if you wanted.
@@cosmosofinfinity Didn't they say that the Fortnite-esque thing was only to have a Timesplitters game be approved for development and appease shareholders while they plan on slowly changing it to a reimagining of the TS2? I feel like people miss that part of the info when talking about the cancelled TS game.
The Tomb Raider Legend HD looks blurry too, or more like overexposed. It had this filter that makes everything look like it's glowing, like some Spielberg films. I think because of that, no matter the resolution, it will always have this unfocused look to it.
I think it was on purpose on ps2, Tomb Raider anniversary was the same. The xbox 360 and ps3 versions don't have that filter.
@@giggitygoo3000 I have the PS3 version as well, and it looks noticeable less sharp than Anniversary because of that filter. Yes, it was on purpose. Same thing was done to some of their cut scenes of MSG3. It was their way to make it look more cinematic, at the time.
Same with Timesplitters unfortunately.
Looking at Sly Cooper, it’s clearly got more color saturation, significantly darker darks, and is the best-looking of the three.
It looks sharper because the PS2 port to PS5 is the original games, where as the collection on PS3 lowered the thickness of the character and environment black outlines overall.
so glad they went back to add trophy support for Toy Story 2 PS1
of course they add trophies AFTER I beat the entire game
They need to add trophies to resident evil. Then we need 2 and 3 added in with trophy support.
@@TimDespairBear11Yeah, I got to the Toy Barn boss last I played. It looks like the trophies don't pop if you go back and beat something over that you already did.
And they fixed some minor graphical bugs the original version had so now I hope they pick up the pace in re-releasing PS1, PSP and PS2 games. There's still plenty of good ones left abandoned.
And you story 3
I hope PlayStation will at least re-release past PS2 games which had issues on this new emulator (manhunt, warriors, primevil) for example
Okage and Ape Escape 2.
Those would be great
I just want to pop in my ps2 discs and play like the good old days...
Agree
The Warriors suffer most with Laggy framerate on PS4
And Unplayable on PS5
@@tylere.8436well just use your ps2 like the old days.
I’m having fun just finishing beating Star Wars the clone wars I want more ps2 classics
It's the only game that seems to have uprendering that works.
Go buy a used PS2
@@Str8Maddenessit’s hard to find one nowadays so until then Sony needs bring a lot ps2 classics to the ps5
eBay
@@epci6419naw I’m good lol something could be wrong with it if u get on eBay heck no we getting a lot more ps2 classics on ps5 so I’m good
I really REALLY hope we end up seeing the rest of the Sly Trilogy and subsequently, the Ratchet and Clank and SOCOM Trilogy
I was surprisingly shocked to see trophies for The Clone Wars but I’m so glad. 2 more platinum trophies in my future!
Hey Ryan
New sub to the channel over the past few months as an avid lover of all games with the PlayStation family being a special place for me. Keep up the awesome videos and content, this personal and direct look at new/special launches like this are very insightful and bring a lot of personality and connection with your viewer of feeling like we are apart of experiencing the same things together. Thank you !!
I really hope that this will finally start a retro wave for ps5. Tbh I do wish sony would just drop the ps4 support for those games so they can go all out on stability and improvements, make it like the DS/3DS situation back then with Nintendo.
sly and tomb raider legends seem like a win
not when xbox can run all ps2 games in 4k
@@newjackgaming88 well it can't as not all ps2 games were on the original xbox, not by a long shot.
Where is silent hill 2, god of war, gta3, timesplitters 1, the bouncer, dynasty warriors. tony hawk.
The original xbox just doesnt have anywhere near the number of games as the ps2.
But yes the xbox does have better backwards compatibility, mostly because all of it's consoles have had the same pc architecture
@@newjackgaming88bragging about stealing games makes you super cool and hardcore
It's a solid start to what will hopefully lead to more PS2 games. I've already downloaded them for free just because but I will turn around and purchase them.
Bought sly cooper instantly cannot wait for sly 2 and 3
Also I love how sly has way more ratings than the other 2 and all 5 stars, my goat
Yea Sly cooper is one of my favourites sure it may not look as good as the hd collection but it's still very impressive I don't have a PS3 but I'm glad we are getting these and hopefully get sly 2 and 3
Sly holds such a special place in my heart. I have my full trilogy complete in box. Easily some of my favorites from the ps2 era 😭
Really wish they brought the PS3 games over. I loved Sly 4 that was my game growing up really hope that comes to PS5 one day
hopefully this is just the start. there's still a bunch of ps1 and ps2 games i'd eventually like to see in the classics catalogue, fingers crossed.
There are a lot of HD collections of PS2 games that are stuck on the PS3, having at least some of them ported over to the PS5 could be great.
There’s a lot already on ps+. Sly, jak, ratchet etc.
@@thelegendofstonecoldstevea3205 Yeah we want to be able to buy and download those games not be forced into a subscription service and use steaming
Yes, like, please give us the silent hill quadrilogy on current consoles.
Something that i noticed is that if you bought toy story 2 on the ps3 store, you get the ps4 and ps5 version for free
I just have a small 1080p monitor for my ps5 setup so it looks good to my eyes. Hopefully they continue to make improvements like they have with the ps1 and psp emulation. Trophy support for all three games and tomb raider and Star Wars being in widescreen is a pleasant surprise. Overall happy and excited for more games to get added cause I’m having a blast with these first 3 already.
It's worth mentioning Tomb Raider Legends was originally released on PS2, Xbox & Xbox 360 but not PS3 until the Tomb Traider Trilogy several years later. The PS2 version is the version used here whereas for Xbox One/Xbox Series the Xbox 360 version is used.
Exactly, and the PS3 version is comparable with the 360 one, it wasn't an upscaled PS2 version
@@asturides Honesty, $19.99 is too much for the PS2 version. If it was the HD version from the PS3 Trilogy , the price would be justified. 😕
@@mirkom8275I'm of the opinion that the 6th gen version is better. I've read some interviews from back in the day. PS2 was the lead platform. 360 came later so they just added enhancements. Some of the effects are neat by themselves, but they also change the overall look in a way I don't like very much. It's worth noting also that the PS3 and 360 version run poorly on original hardware, while a lot of the effects are broken on PC.
@vesselinkrastev Looking back, a lot of cross generation games of that era objectively looked better, but others weren't because the enhancements negatively affected the atmosphere of the game. I'll see for myself when I eventually play Tomb Raider Legends one day along most of the other games in the franchise that I haven't played yet.
Very happy about sly 🙏 hoping we get more ports and hoping to get infamous 1&2 one day 🙏
I'm raised with inverted left and right camera controls ever since the Spyro games, and I'm sticking with it (in platformers).
We need more! So many great classics I want to purchase! Also how about remastering PS3 games so we can play them natively on PS4 and PS5 without streaming!
Man, after Dark Cloud and multiple other PS2 games came out in HD with higher textures… just crazy.
Sly Copper it's definitely not 480i. It's either 480p or 960p. Will wait for John from DF to give me exact resolution.
It's definitely not uprendering I'll tell you that. Clone Wars is the only one that is actually uprendering correctly. It looks 1440p.
It's 960p like all other PS2 classics. People forgot what 480i/480p look like.
The reason people are complaining is because many PS2 games had this exaggered blur effect that doesn't upscale good and blurs the image a bit but it's still sharper than the HD version on PS3.
Unfortunately the games I want won’t be on there, Def Jam fight for NY, GTA liberty and Vice city stories. Dragonball tenakichi series.
7:29 you know i gotta wonder. if what we now consider inverted controls were the norm are these really inverted controls or did we invert the control norms ourselves and the new controls are the real inverted controls.
Invert-ception...
Damn Ryan, you’re on a streak, so many quality videos back to back to back, pretty much every day. Good to see, love your content ❤
I really want the lord of the rings ps2 games. Would love to play them + The Third Age once more
Gran Turismo 3 and 4, and Rainbow Six 3 being added as PS2 games would make me VERY happy. Those games along with the classic Star Wars Battlefronts and LEGO games were my childhood
Gran Turismo might have licensing issues. Because real cars.
Also I doubt we'll get Classic Battlefront as Stand-alone releases when we just got the compilation.
@@GmNdWtchr96 Ok, I guess that makes sense with GT.
And yeah sorry I didn’t mean to sound like I wanted the individual BF games lol, I agree the Classic Collection already fulfills that purpose.
@@GmNdWtchr96if only Sony used disc's
If they used disc's for backwards compatibility then licensing wouldn't matter as licensing only applies to digital purchases
That's why on Xbox Forza Horizon 1-3 and Forza Motorsport 5-7 are playable only with a disc
If the performance also drops on PS4 Pro when Enhancements are on, then it suggests a CPU issue.
Emulation can be CPU intensive on PC, so it wouldn't surprise me if this also the case here.
I'm guessing especially PS2 emulation can be intense.
I've having the hardest time emulating it. It's always the same issue. Low FPS.
Graphics and everything else are great.
I've tried two PCs and even a powerful Galaxy S22 Ultra.
@@Hypno-Swag Performance is usually excellent on PC with PCSX2, unless you're using quite an old machine.
@@WickedRibbon Would you mind sharing your PC specs?
Perhaps it'll give me a better idea. One was indeed an older PC, but the other was a fairly new HP laptop.
Perhaps I just need a more powerful PC.
@@Hypno-Swag I'm running a 7800 XT + Ryzen 5800X3D. Massive overkill for PS2 emulation. That said, I've also run PCSX2 on much lower spec.
Make sure you're using one of the nightly builds. They are massively improved over the - now outdated - stable version.
@@WickedRibbon Thanks. I appreciate it.
I want SmackDown Here Comes the pain and SVR as well and so much more.
That would be amazing but those kind of games will never happen
Love here comes the pain but we never gonna see it because license issues with wrestlers, take two own the wwe video games license and thq is dead (the current thq is nortic games and they already own aew). Also Chris Benoit in it and this is problematic.
The only wrestling game i can think can come to the service is rumble roses and it’s basically here comes the pain with dead or alive skin.
You should be able to use your original disc. Microsoft did it right by making the games run better and allow you to use the disc. Instead of buying it again.
Amen! It's a no brainer
Hopefully in time for PS6. Completely agree with you.
People have pointed out in Sly Cooper that the Mz. Ruby rhythm boss fight has been butchered (even more than the HD Collection version). The fight plays out way faster than the music you have to keep in rhythm with, making it more frustrating to complete. This is a clear issue in the way the PS4 is emulating PS2 games. So I hope they won't treat it like the HD Collection and actually patch it this time. For the time being, the best workaround is switching to PAL mode when doing that fight.
Mz. Ruby just can't catch a break.
This is only an issue with the ps4 version. Just played the boss on ps5 and it was perfect
@@nicholasdangelo7747 Good to hear. Btw, do the Mz. Ruby and Panda King levels have any fps drops? I remember those being an issue on PS2.
Wild to me that the PS3 version that came out over a decade ago is the definitive version still.
no it isn't at all. They completely nerfed the shadows and lighting effects in the PS3 version... best way to play it is the PS2 version on pcsx2 in 4k, widescreen with the no-blur patches..
im gonna grab Sly, I have TR Legend on the Series X via 360 backwards compatability
I just want them to finally add all the ps1 and PS2 resident evils with fully trophy support, upscaling and frame rate options.
Tomb raider on my ps5 looked actually sharper
We need the ps2 mortal kombat games
The only PS2 game I want put on PS4/5 is Scooby Doo: Night of 100 frights.
My favourite PS2 game of all time!
Oh my god you don’t understand how much of a hassle I went to play that game💀! I don’t have a pc but I had a ps4 and had to wait to get it jailbroken because of my ps version and thankfully it got a jailbreak release and I went straight to downloading it😂!
The Getaway Black Monday with trophy support is my dream ❤
I would also love to see ssx3
Would be nice, but warner bros isn't consumer friendly...in fact....they couldn't get worse
yoooooo same my fav game to replayed it like 3 years ago awesome
Just saw they gonna add Daxter on June as well. Can’t wait to play it, missed it on the PSP.
Tomb Raider Legends is $7 on Steam, also why did they only add the first Sly Cooper and not 2 and 3??
Subscription service drip feed tactics.
Enjoy the scraps the corporate overlords give you.
Really hope they bring over some of the old crash games like twinsanity or tag team racing
To me Sly Cooper looks like the PS5 runs the game in 480p, while the OG PS2 ran most games in 480i (some games can do 480p or be forced via Mods, which gives a very similar look on a decent upscaler). PS3 is clearly a lot sharper, so it looks like this is the actual highest ingame resolution.
TR on the other hand is 16:9.... on a PS2 game. Which could mean that it ran letterboxed or anamorphic. Which could explain (especially the first option) the more blurry picture
I was subscribed to a PlayStation magazine at the time, and I remember checking out the demo for sly Cooper
Is there a PS2 category in the store or something to help find them easier instead of typing 1 by 1?
okay yeah I think the PS3 Collection for Sly Cooper looks a lot better
In resolution sure, but the emulated version is more accurate, and won't have the bugs the remaster introduced.
I have noticed that the resolution does look like it's uprendered in Clone Wars. But the uprendering doesn't work in Sly Racoon and Tomb Raider Legends. Those two games are supposed to be uprendered and it just isn't working from what I see. But Clone Wars looks to be 1440p I think?
Maybe its glitched right now? Hopefully they update them
Glitched like it was when they launched new PS1 classics.
@@XBrandon98X Yeah! As the description for the games all say uprendering and Tomb Raider Legends and Sly Racoon are just not uprendering.
This is good for people who don't keep consoles but may want to revisit some titles from back in the day. For example I love my hardcopy of Twisted Metal Black but if I ever had to downsize for any reason, Id keep it in the way of the PS5 version (more than likely its a PS4 variant) but its cleaned up so much better. Its not Xbox level convenience but its fine for the now
It’s awesome that they did sly 1 but are they going to bring sly 2 and 3 onto ps5 as well
Probably later, they brought the entire Jak trilogy over.
I’m so happy they brought back sly. Sly cooper 1 is my favorite game of all time. Was my first game I got my ps2
Just want to quickly interject with Sly 1 at the moment since I'm unsure if its noticable to others, the PS4 version has a significantly higher clock speed compared to every other version of the game. The PS3 remaster runs at 101.7% clock speed, and the PS5 version runs at 100% clock speed when compared against a PS2. The PS4 version however runs at 115.5% clock speed, which is far far faster than the game is intended for (a prime example of this is the Mz Ruby boss fight which is a rhythm game, you will notice it is exponentially harder on PS4 when trying to time the inputs).
As speedrunners, we are hoping this gets fixed since clock speed is something that affects the games physics, beyond just "the game is faster". This also means that for every one minute of real time, PS4 is 9 seconds faster for no reason. Posting this here so that people are aware that the heightened clock speed is a bug on the PS4 version only. Unsure why this is the case, maybe the PS4 version was just more sloppily put together, but at the moment we are just hoping for a patch of this since its a dramatic difference to playing the game. Currently I recommend staying at base camp with PS2/PS3, or using the PS5 version to play Sly 1 at its normal intended speed. The PS4 version's clock speed is just very broken at the moment
Now I have each gaming Console on my PS5. Toy story 2 (PS1), Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus (PS2), Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2010 (PS3), Mortal Kombat 11 (PS4) and Resident Evil 4 Remake (PS5)
I still ain’t never had a done dang Ol Ps3. Need tuh get me one.
It's nice to see the older titles on the service that didn't have trophy support finally get them. I can play these games anywhere else with better emulation, so the only draw for me is having that trophy data on my record.
Such a shame Sly Cooper isn’t the widescreen PS3 version. 😢
But it still is a version of it and it's still good.
the big issue with some of the ps2 games on ps4 especially, less so on ps5, is also issues with scaling the framebuffer effects, those are what are so hard to emulate, and there are severe issues with scaling framebuffer effects on some games still to this day, playing gta sa on pcsx2 at high render resolutions still does has issues with overlaying the heat haze and blur effect, its like a proto bloom effect and doesnt align with the rendered geometry well at all at high render resolutions
and of course none of the fmvs will be easily upscaled if they are being emulated, most of the cutscenes in sly cooper or more so tomb raider will be fmv and heavily compressed and locked to a 480i render due to the source material
Everybody buying $70 games releasing this years while here I am spending all my money on ps1/ps2 games instead of new gen games (only exception was Elden Ring DLC.
I want midnight club 2 they did that for ps3 in 2014 still got it an play it but would be nice to have it on ps5
Side question: Regarding Toy Story 2 now having trophies, what happens if I am half way through the game? Do trophies I have already done automatically pop? Or do I have to start a new save?
New save. I beat the ENTIRE game and received no trophies.
@@TimDespairBear11 damn. Thanks for the info!
Im gonna be real, I wouldnt mind native ps2 resolutions if that means that you can load games from the original discs
Shawtys lika melody in MY heaad
Hopefully they do the rest of the sly cooper games and hopefully they do a majority of the psplus catalog
When is the new explore tab coming out
I like how they added the PS2 into to the PS2 games. Wish they also did that for PS1/PSP games.
This was a very low effort PS2 emulation. There's no reason why this shouldn't be the best emulator. Even the pc ps2 emulator can make widescreen
In terms of BC xbox does a much better job. Heck they even added ray tracing to some old xbox games
So Xbox S-X edition is a glorified last-gen (or older) console? 😂
No, thanks, don’t need an uninspired, mundane, and bottlenecked LBOX in my life.
facts brother
@@princegroovethis is crazy cope, I really hope you’re not an adult
@@princegroovewhat a moronic response
None of this is true... They definitely did not add ray tracing to Xbox games 😂😂😂
GTA LCS, GTA VCS, Def Jam FFNY, Scarface, Godfather, The Getaway, Need for Speed Underground 2 , Most Wanted, and Carbon. The Getaway and The Getaway Black monday. Tough because a lot of the games I want might need their licenses renewed and I don't think Sony or the publishers will pay to renew them.
these consoles could have been sold out if they would only add a emulator in each of them letting you play whatever you already own. but no, they must transform it in something you have to pay for regurarly because you have to own nothing and be happy
its because they are out of touch with their core audience
@@btwiusearch2 also that, but its also a direction all of them GOT to take in order to stay "in". A direction not based on what the public needs or wants.
Licensing issues there. Xbox had a hell of a time getting the back compat support it has and doesn't even have everything
@@TheSoulWithin7 exactly I just hope that this generation of gamers has to experience licensing issues so they can finally take it seriously because when we tell them we want backwards compat they tell us old games suck
Licensing mate. People want a piece of the pie these days. They see value in making all the money off their IP.
Soon as you boost Sly I saw the difference instantly on the Ps4. Good video "Mystic 👍
PlayStation Stars is still down
2:04 Just checked and Resident Evil Director's Cut still doesn't show a price or an option to purchase it separately. It just says upgrade to Premium.
Yeah, you're right. I believe Resident Evil is the only classic that you can't get outside of Premium.
I just want the original GTA Trilogy but unfortunately, Rockstar wants us to play the god-awful remasters
Why didn’t you purchase the original gta games before they removed them? They were on PSN for like 5 years before being replaced with the “remasters”
Ditch the PS4 already and give us more PS2 games for PS5 immediately.
I’m so glad I resubbed to Premium at the old rate; I can enjoy all these old favorites again.
U can emulate these games on mobile or pc and they look better
You can just buy them.
@@somethingthatisntcringe757 Who cares?
@@princegroove You should care mate, it's 500 times better than whatever emulator they're using, and it's completely free if you just download the ROMs. Actual official ports or emulated rereleases made by billion-dollar companies are worse than fan projects making no money off of it, let that sink in. Please mate, you can emulate PS2 games on pretty much any decent computer or phone from the last 6 years, I myself have a 5-year-old laptop that can very easily run PS2 games at 4k with all the bells and whistles. You should care because pcsx2 is objectively the better option in literally every department, please go support that instead of this. I mean come on man, you can literally put pcsx2 on an Xbox series, and it emulates PS2 games better than the damn PlayStation. If that's not a wake-up call, I don't know what is.
@@somethingthatisntcringe757 I absolutely don’t care because I invariably purchase the newest Nintendo and PlayStation consoles to play the current and prior generation of games. If I wanna dabble in emulation, etc. I’ll do so on my gaming PC or play retro games on a myriad of classic consoles in my vast collection.
Will definitely play Sly Cooper again! I can think of a few instances in game where rewinds and save states are going to be helpful. ofc would be nice to see high res modes, especially on PS5
No option for better resolutions is wild.
was really looking forward to play tomb raider legend, but even sat a good distance away from my 4K TV it looked blurry as hell, i could barely make out what i was doing, felt like i needed glasses! pretty disappointed tbh, they couldn't even up-res these games to 1080p on PS5??
Resident Evil Director's Cut is still behind the subscript paywall for some reason. Recently cut my premium subscript (because it's a total waste of money) and cannot buy REDC for some reason. Only game I noticed that isn't purchasable stand-alone.
Definitely want to see them go back and update the previous PS2 Classics to use this new emulator if there are no major issues with them. Probably won't happen, but it would be nice to see.
There’s no bad, this is all good. Let’s not be picky folks!!!
Started playing Sly Cooper my childhood game.
TR LEGEND 20? Thats RIDICULOUS
The game is 6h long. Mind you. They should have rereleased the ps3 TR LEGEND-anniversary-underworld collection instead. I hope no one buys legend at 20. Love TR but that price is stupid.
I got a cheap wallet top up to get the price for all the games down.
yeah that price should be for the whole trilogy especially when there’s literally no visual enhancement… I mean 480p on ps5? Come on ………😢
@Tombbistol they have rewind, safe states and trophies
@@MiguelRodriguez-lp9et oh wow! Then that is worth not 20€, but 30 or 40!!! 😅😅
The software ps2 classics emulator for both ps4 and ps3 has the EXACT same graphical bugs as the older pcsx2 emulator when you force other games to run through it. I wonder if the new emulator is still the same.
Wish they would just dedicate a full team to PS1/PS2/PSP ports for PSN. Get a few games every month. MS making game improvements with resolution and framerate is awesome and I wish Sony would copy it. Just the trophies, rewind feature and save states are a great addition.
They do already do this each month? New games are getting announced today.
@WllKiedSnake to my understanding it's been a slow crawl when it comes to releasing these games and when they do a lot of them aren't in the best shape. I could be wrong.
It’s currently outsourced.
I agree with you though, they need a team dedicated to it, maybe have some Nixxes and Bluepoint developers form a team dedicated to BC.
@Harkins1721 Yeah it's 3 or 4 games a month. Sometimes there are issues, but they are fixed pretty quick. Some games like Resistance Retribution get enhanced further. It now features it's infected mode. Which unlocks different areas and story for the main game. Like an alternative mode.
@@WllKiedSnake Rog, my mistake then. Good to see its 3-4 a month. I just hope this can transfer to PS6 with ease. I really dont want to buy my games for a 3rd to 4th time.
i hope they start adding all the ps2 games because thats a much needed thing to preserve video games in todays no real backwards comparability era
Some of the PS2 games have PS3 HD version. So why doesn't Sony just use the HD version... I forget PS3 is hard to emulate
Those can already be streamed. And a lot of those hd remasters sucked. Rather have the original PS2 games.
@@thelegendofstonecoldstevea3205 If the PS2 games stream this look, Than the HD remastered will look closer to 4K
For sly 1 the ps2 version is better than the hd collection.
The hd collection is more bright and the mz ruby boss battle glitches really bad.
@@BensyBens cool, but HD version should still be a option
@@onehitsword6800 it’s is
It’s on ps+ premium for almost a year (even before when it’s was ps now). But it’s streaming only because sony still keeping the ps4 alive and not making a native ps3 emulator for ps5. This is the reason why the ps2 games took too long to arrive to ps+.
I'm curious to see how this works on the base PS4 and PS4 Pro, especially on the base PS4, some PSP games like Toy Story 3 have very noticeable framerate drops on the base PS4, I'm curious to know how the PS2 emulator handles this especially with enhancements enabled.
But I'll be honest, I didn't expect them to release this new version of the PS2 emulator for the PS4 at all, it makes me curious if they ever try to make a PS3 emulator, whether they'll try to make it run on the PS4 or not.