BMW 1200 Series Invisible Fuel Filter Service
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- If you've got an 05-13 BMW 1200 (GS/GSA/RT/RS/etc) that bike has the "invisible fuel filter". The filter is hidden inside a molded plastic case so you can't service it... or can you? Don't spend $500 on a new BMW fuel filter and fuel pump assembly! We show you how to flush and restore the filter, and how to change the fuel pump. BestRest Products 425.673.1023
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Your video solved the mystery of removing the oem pump from the housing of my 07RT. After banging my head against the wall for several hours, and about to surrender to ordering an oem pump, I found your video. The video showed the trick of carefully nudging the filter base from the pump housing and saved the day (and my wallet). Thank you so very much.
Thank you!!! My 150k mile R1200RT was driving me nuts with a progressively worsening lean condition. You saved me over 550$ on part alone!!. Went ahead and put that fuel pump in there too while apart.
Outstanding....nice camera work and excellent detailing of the issues.
Great video. Thanks for showing us how to work on the fuel pump assembly. I only wish you had replaced the plastic fuel QD's with metal ones. Too many horror stories about the plastic cracking and causing major problems!
Thank you for taking time to make this very informative video.
Great video. I am ready to install my new fuel pump as we speak. I checked the controller with the controller bypass and found that was not the problem. Now I am on to the fuel pump.
Thank you! This was very enlightening. I now feel confident doing this project with my GS.
Thank you so much for this priceless video. I really appreciate the effort to post this in such a clear way with all details and even the alternate parts needed. I just order the parts and I'll be ready to get my partner back to roll.
Best wishes for you and every gs rider! It's really a gift to have access to this help for free. Thanks again!
I recently bought an 07 1200GS, and after a week in, I was driving along with what I thought was over a half tank of gas left, and before I knew it I was on the side of the road without sgas. I can only guess it was fuel issue and after watching your video, which was VERY informative. I will be going over my fuel system here very soon. Thank you for such a great step by step video! I wish more people would go into such great detail.
Can't believe nobody mentioned the recall to the fuel reader in the tank for these models. Call BMW for the free service.
@Belly Ache the fuel pump and hevel can still cause this problem because there will be 5-7 liters left in the tank.
Well presented and informative, thank you.
A couple of comments
Proper fuel injection claps are superior to gear clamps for the fuel hose,
BMW recommends tire install lube on the sealing gasket when re-assembling.
I like to use Red Rubber grease - Castrol product.
Many Many Thanks for this....This is exactly the video I need. My bike performance after 122,500 miles has degraded at higher revs and top speed. It now only does 118MPH instead of 134-6 MPH of old. It feels like an odd fuel starvation issue, so this is a rabbit hole I will try to go down after going down others (coils/plugs/shaft drive). This is a 10x of my mechanical skills and the bike (2004 R1200 GS - No. 179 off the production line !!) Is at a holiday home in the Canary Islands....
Thank you very very Much, OUTSTANDING detail, well spoken and explained !! saved hours of frustration. Sending you many miles/Kms of safe and enjoyable riding in the years to come
Thank you David. This video is a great help for me!
Wow, thanks for a very informative video. Guess what i'm doing to my 05 GS next winter...
David, Thank you, this is a great video, great detail. Well done, and thus info is worth sharing. I hope to see more awesome videos like this in the future .
Good job, very informative for GSs 1200 owners. Tanks.
This system is very similar to the BMW S1000RR 1st and 2nd generation. This video has been very helpful for cleaning the fuel system on my S1000RR. Thanks.
What year s1000rr do you have?
Thank You for this informative video. I’m about to do this job next week. Fuel pressure is down to 2,8bar and the bike isn’t responsive on full throttle. I’m not to keen on removing the fitting for the fuel hose. But we’ll see how it goes.
I really found your video very useful. Thank you
A proper TH-cam video.
Mine stopped today. It'd restart run for 4 seconds and die. Over and over. Till the battery flattened. This looks my next job!!
This is very good info. Thanks for shearing you’r knowledge. 🤘🏼
Really exceptionally instructive video - top marks!
Minus for BMW that managed to make a super-complex assembly that could be easily simplified by design, with no need for a million different features.
Also, minus for advertising a good-for-life part such as a filter! What is life? For some it is a few years, for others it is 10. For me it is 20. An easily replaceable, standard design filter - like that I have on my Ducati - would do, and make our life so much easier.
I am surprised that the large pump assembly gasket changes size and ductility if not wetted by fuel. A Viton seal would keep its properties. I wonder why BMW has not adopted this material.
I bought my bike new, after about 3 years I took it to a BMW dealer for regular maintenance. They found a few recalls from the factory, one was related to a "a plastic part of the gas tank that cracks". I wonder what this was (no explanation was given) but I was surprised BMW had released such a part.
Final remark: instead of dipping a fuel line in warm water (aargh!) I would heat it up with an air dryer
O Just did this On My BMW R1200GS 2012, e it hás this invisíble Filter. I usede a Fuel Pump (4 bar of Press). But, I didn’t test the motorcicle On the Road. Thank you, To give us These amazing classes!!
Excellent video, very helpful, just done on my 2012 GS Rallye, suggest take off tank in full much easier, and heat gun to soften the plastic, it sure was tight fit
Very usefull video thanks
Thanks I learned a lot..... I have a K1200GT everything is at the bottom of the tank, but pretty much the same........ Where are you located ....... Thanks again !!!!!
Grat video, I am learning a lot. I already bougth the new pump assembly, $530.00 bucks.
On minute 36:48,you recommend to blow air thru the filter. what air pressure are you using for this process?. I am thinking on use a plastic 'welder' epoxy to fix my leak, but i need to do invisible filter cleaning process. nee to make up my mind... not sure how much BMW dealers charge to replace the pump, do not even know if the clean the fuel tank as part of the procedure of replacing the pump.... sounds logic, but who knows
Great info. That's just crazy maintenance though. Makes me want to run back to my hondas. Turn the key and go.
speaking as a mechanic that works for a dealer of all types of bike, I can honestly say all bikes have 'something' that needs attention. Especially after time and use have taken their toll... :o)
Excelent video!
Thank you very much!
super video ,,,,,díky
Nice job... thanks....👏👏👏👏👍
Awesome video! I’m almost at the point of finishing the rebuild having followed your instructions to the T. Only part was that small white O-ring you said pay attention to. I probably lost mine; but no idea how as I was really careful with everything. Do you have details or info on where I could find a replacement? Thanks!
No, sorry I have no idea where you'd find one. You'll need to take measurements then source it yourself. Note that you'll need an oring that is fuel compatible.
2014 K1600GTL that’s set for 2 years with a quarter tank of gas. Hard starts, run intermittently and chokes if given hard throttle. Put new gas in, but doesn’t seem to help yet, but only ridden about 40 miles with new gas. Help!
Wow. Absolutely fantastic. Can't thank you enough. You've built my confidence to take on this procedure.
Question: what kind of performance/mpg increase, if any, have you experienced after completing all this???
I have a '13 GSA with 64k miles. I average 35-37mpg and I'm betting that filter is just nasty and has to be choking fuel to some degree.
Anyhow, cheers, and thanks again!
I can't say whether I got any performance/mpg benefit from the fuel filter cleaning... but several people have told me that I don't look quite so fat. Based on those comments I think the cleaning was worth the effort.
I am replacing my fuel regulator at the same time. You wouldn’t happen to have a video on this procedure by any chance? Thanks.
Oh! I might still have it. Would it be visible when pushing the inside of the valve in (like in your video) and just under the inner part? The problem appears to be mine was black not white. Thx!
good video, I didn't know there was a filter there. Question about the other side. you said it had a pump but I see no wiring. What drives it ?
There's a wiring harness that plugs into the unit. Once out of the tank you'll see it.
Congratulations for the video, very explanatory and detailed.
33:28 I would like to know what product you used to rinse the filter
Thank you
Fuel injector cleaner. Any brand will work
@@HidalgoRides thank you very much
Excellent video sir. Does this apply, if your bike has a fuel strip, as opposed to a float?.
Regardless of which system (float or strip) the solution is the same. You need to clean that filter
David Petersen thanks for the response. 👍🏻
You didn't show the sock being removed and mine won't let go. Makes me wonder if there's something I'm missing.
I just acknowledged of this video now, and last week I clean the fuel system, a brown liquids came out. Also I remove the connection plug, I think I lost the print, it’s leaking a bit
Use some teflon tape on the threads of the connector.
I have to do as you did with the cleaning of the invisible filter, to my point of you I removed only a bit of the dark liquid but not enough, this week coming I will say yes or no it work out
Does the jet pump also have a green net to protect from dirt sucking ?
Yes it does
Are you offering for sale, a rebuild fuel pump kit for a 2009 R1200RT?
Why does vent hose matter?
I own a 2009 GSA. You have a fuel float attached to your fuel pump. As far as I know its supposed to be a fuel strip. Did you change it? May I know the part number for that or where did you get it from?
BMW used both fuel strips and floats. They had many problems with the strips and did some recalls. As for converting from a strip to a float, I can't advise. Check the BMW forums.
what is that two knobs on the gold plate on the steering nut? Steering damper??
Yes it's a steering damper.
I recently bought a gsa 1200 2011 with only 4000 km, very well cared for, new oil, walking it has overheated on the road, have you ever seen such a problem? could it be related to the injectors or even this filter?
Do you have a Part Number or Link for the Fuel Pump for the GSA? I only saw the Hose and Filters on your Site. Thank you.
BestRest doesn't sell fuel pumps. Check out Quantum Fuel Systems. They'll have what you need.
5 years late to the party, but we’ll done. I’m about to do this to a 2005 R1200RT that has been sitting for several years.
Hi my RT has got a rough idle problem can it be a symptom of clogged fuel filter ? besides rough idle and stalling it rides ok when not in idle
I doubt the rough idle is related to a clogged filter. Usually a clogged filter causes lack of power at higher RPM because the bike can't draw enough fuel thru the clogged filter. Instead I'd look to your injectors and/or timing and/or valve clearances. You should also look at your air filter and check that your gas is clean and fresh.
HOW? Does your gas cap flip open forward? I want mine to do that, but can't see a way to get it to work.
Take off the cap - remove screws. There's a rubber fitting below the cap. I turned it around, reversed the cap.
@@HidalgoRides Thanks, but I guess the 2008 is different, as that won't work. But thank you for answering.
ey hello, around minute 11:50, where the invisible filter is located, Is there any risk to buildup pressure and crack the flange? (black cover on top of the withe body where the invisible filter is). I have a miro-fracture that starts on one of the mounting holes of the control module. i can send you photos about my failure
I'm not a BMW tech so I'm not sure I'm qualified to give you a firm answer, BUT I think it's unlikely that the pump would build enough pressure to crack that housing. More likely, the crack was caused at time of factory install (over-torque). No way to fix it, no way to tell when it will fail. Best plan is to buy a new assembly.
Hi there. Where can I buy that tech filter you installed in the fuel tank - as the last step? Thank you.
Peter - please clarify your question. The "invisible filter" is not available unless you buy a new fuel filter assembly from BMW. If you're talking about the filter that fits into the filler neck, then you can buy that one from BestRest Products. www(dot)BestRestProducts(dot)com
@@bestrestproducts648, yes, I was referring to the “filter that fits into the filler neck.” Thank you for the link.
Buen dia .
Hay alguna manera de desarmarlo . Por que el mio sale sucio lo poco que hay de gasolina y hace que la motl no responda en altas rpm
Pierde potencia .
Ya le hice todo el cableado de la bomba de gasolina y mejoro pero de nuevo se a arorado ese filtro escondido y la moto no responde en alta
No habla Espanol. Translated: Good day . Is there any way to disable it. Why does mine come out dirty the little there is of gasoline and makes the motl not respond at high rpm, loses potency. I already did all the wiring of the fuel pump and it improved but again that hidden filter has been damaged and the motorcycle does not respond on high
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It sounds like the filter is still clogged. Repeat the cleaning process and if that doesn't work then t.he only thing to do is buy a new fuel filter assembly from BMW. Translated: Parece que el filtro todavía está obstruido. Repita el proceso de limpieza y, si eso no funciona, lo único que debe hacer es comprar un nuevo conjunto de filtro de combustible de BMW.
Would you know how to replace the white plastic flange that is mounted directly onto the tank?
Sorry, can't provide any info on replacing that flange. You'll probably need to buy the entire unit from BMW
@@bestrestproducts648 got it, thanks for your reply. Great tutorial by the way.
Did it effect throttle response?
No.
Where can I buy the 9.5mm to 9.5mm hose? Quantum fuel sent me a 9.5 to 8mm instead :(
Don't know. Contact Quantum and make special request
You'll have to speak to Quantum about that. I don't have a source...
looks like bmw e36 fuel pump :)
Where can I buy that in tank filter bag, the bag you put in the tank through the fuel entry ....
BestRest Products
@@bestrestproducts648 how to buy your fuel filler strainer
@@thomashartle2820 go to bestrestproducts.com
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Sorry but teflon is for this psi?
The teflon just ensures a good seal between the threads. The threads carry the load. All the fittings are plastic so the load can't be that high.
There may be some special BMW thread compound that they recommend, I didn't have any.
@@bestrestproducts648 The load is over 150 psi.
@@bestrestproducts648 I would highly recommend using the thread compound over the Teflon tape on the male threads only. The gasoline will eventually dissolve the plastic holding the Teflon threads in the tape together and it is real easy for the threads to break off and plug a fuel injector.
Advice is to keep a fuel controller bypass under your seat or a spare controller unit. I purchaced a 2006 model with 63000km on clock and after +_ 1000km the controller unit blew out left me beside the raod. Good thing to have for backup ....this is a general problem on the older 1200gs
www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index074c.html?fa=contentGeneric.nvxszdkebklxuaer&pageId=428065
Damn, $465 for the pump assembly with the float lever. I’m surprised BMW doesn’t make a $300 tool to remove that silver ring that holds the pump lol
Check quantumfuelsystems (dot) com. They have pumps. Don't know about the float lever.
800 GS ?????????
i have a video for the 800 th-cam.com/video/D4k7XOOV1uE/w-d-xo.html
All I can say having bought one and been let down so so many times THEY ARE A PILE OF SHIT !! Stick with the Jap bikes and never ever look back. These are great bikes on the open road but much much too heavy and the so called German build is a joke probably just like the B.M.W. cars and Porche living on history when they were good cars and bikes ..Triumph is also a good alternative Just look at the cost of these machines and think it through ??? Its only my opinion but get one at your own peril !! They are not the best out there by a long chalk ask any Suzuki V strom owner how many issues they have had A MASSIVE ZERO !!!!!!!!!! At half the price !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Say no more !!!