Dude just use magnite on a timer (like every 20 sec or so to save some lag) to take run away nuggets on lover lvl belt and put em back in a smellter loop
as a software engineer, seeing the visual representation of spaghetti code Rube Goldberg machine with bugs just to do something twice when a simple condition is met, was something.
On behalf of everyone, I want to thank you Matt for your eye opening videos. For three years i wanted to become an architect but thanks to you the world is saved and i'm heading to med school
Instead of magnets; stop the conveyors, then trigger the smelter a second or two later, restarting the conveyor once the bar is detected at the output. That gives time for extra ore pieces to land and melt before it casts the bar.
Wouldn't it just be easier to raise the smelters up some and have a magnet grab whatever falls below and place some conveyors underneath to flow back onto the line?
Yeah that’s what I was thinking would be the easiest way too, just insert a delay between the conveyers stopping and the smelter triggering. It would also be good if the smelter could output its state, so then you can just detect when the smelter is open, then put that through a delay and then close it again.
Loved seeing the automation aspect of this. I'm a programmer - and any games that have this involved make me very happy. As for dealing with the random resources getting through... You can likely get rid of the magnets if you have your weight sensor stop the belts dropping the resources, but add a 1-2s delay to the bar being spit out. That adds room for additional resources to fall in/be caught, while preventing any more from getting in the way. then have the sensor which detects the bar is out/leaving - that immediately trips the smelter to reset, and then a very small delay after turns the belt dropping the resources back on. This does mean the bars will vary slightly in weight between them though, not sure if that's undesired. Edit: posted this right before the revision which pretty much resolved the problem lol. solid job, if it works it works!
@@victorcast2467 The original bridge was made using 3D modelling software. That's an architect tool, which is why the bridge is so awful. Bridges made by RCE were made using coolculus equations, which is why they're so good. But the log bridge? It was made using LOGarithm, which is the inverse function to explodenentiation. That's why even though RCE didn't build it, it deserves such a high rating and is superior bridge to them all. Anyone can design a complicated bridge, but only a master engineer can create something so simple yet so practical. All hail the log bridge!
Next step: Automatic loading and refueling trucks for selling your bars. That’s about as far as automation goes in vanilla. They’re really missing other things that could be triggered automatically.
Im not so pressed to have automated selling, but being able to manufacture things with logic would be nice. Like a pipe extruder that could make pipes for you out of iron or cloutium, no more running to the shop when you bought six elbows instead of seven. A logic smithy that could press out the selected item once it had enough bars/gems. I think i might go make a suggestion post for these.
8:19 The problem is no one bothers to make a new type of circuit control until someone needs something to do something in a certain way. Then, their R&D lab spends the next few months trying to come up with a new part that works the way they need it to. Then, when they got "something", it goes through its paces to see how efficiently it will work, gets refined even further, until a finished product is produced to be sold to the general public.
Well, I went i did it, I bought and played this game for over 15 hours straight today for the first time after watching your video. you can put one on the miners on any part of the conveyer bely, even verticals and turns! Also you can take your hand cart down into the dwarven mine. The dwarven mine also goes SIDEWAYS, so you can build outward instead of down. I dont think I'll personally be playing with any of the logic. Oh! The pressure tanks you put the crystals in are for THE END or MIDDLE of your lines where pressure is starting to suck and it boost the pressure back up. Also putting a pressure gage towards the end of your line so you know what the pressure is. I love this game for even though its just this pluming, surprised a Italian red plumber outfit isn't available. If tier 3 pipes are green i swear! lol
Having watched you try to mess around with logic gates here, I'm very interested to see how you might do in Turing Complete. Please, please, do a video for Turing Complete. I'm confident it will be entertaining for everyone, and it may just help you better design logic circuits in the future.
In the lumber mill we have this problem. It’s solved by 2 things. One is a speed up belt. Boards from a slower conveyor are fead onto a faster conveyor belt. This increases the gap between the boards so thy can be dropped out at the right time. The second way is a waterfall. The boards are dropped off the end of a set of chains into a gully of sorts. Then a set of chains come up from under the pile of boards with lugs just tall enough to catch one board. This way boards are kept spaced and in the proper position and can be dropped into the correct trays as the computer keeps track of each board in each lug spot. It might work in the game if you can change conveyor speeds and extend them longer so thy drop onto a slow conveyor then to a real fast conveyor. Never played this game but it looks really interesting
As a Building Controls manager (who is coincidentally named Matt), I was cheering with each revalation being made in this video. Logic chains are fun, painful things.
Wow! I didn't expect computer engineering to be featured in today's RCE video! Great job RCE, this stuff is super complicated and I almost quit college when I had to take that class 😂😂
I think you should when the trigger is activated first stop the conveyor that drops into the furnace, then wait for every bits to fall into the furnace then you activate it. Way simpler because having a 21 weight bar is way less of a problem than the complexity of the machine and the loss that falls through and lags out the map
Matt, buddy, you can use the output of the comparer to control the logic smelter directly. No need for the flip flop The magnet trick is clever, I just came by periodically and moved the dropped bits
One thing I wanna see, since I’m OCD, I kinda want to see you put funnels at the ends of the conveyors and the bars fall into an old smelter, so that way it doesn’t lag as badly and so that way it looks cleaner. Or you can do something like what you have right now and automate it so that way the bars fall into another logic smelter and when it reaches, maybe 5000, it dumps it out and you can just be happy with a bunch of 5000 pound bars in your base
Just found this channel a week or so ago. Edits are humor are really good! Watched some of the original videos where there were only a couple hundred subscribers and the amount of growth between then and now is palpable. Right on
Having had to deal with these types of circuits in the past, I just think about the job of maintaining it. It really makes me think about simplifying it and reducing the errors it can generate. I would start by getting more precise timings of the worst cases for each operation in the circuit, where a process takes place, to determine the number of cycles each instruction takes. That should help you to determine how long to keep the conveyor belt turned off, wait for all possible materials to fall, wait for it to compress, eject, materials get clear and close up the receptor for new materials before you return function to the initial belt. You should not even need the magnets or the ejection sensor at the end if you get those timings figured out.
Hi RCE. With your current automation, you will have some resources get lost for the following reason. Iron in the smelter has a weight of 99. Then 2 iron chunks come up basically touching each other. The first chunk makes the weight over 100 and so activates the pouring of the bar, which makes the second chunk of iron miss because it is too far from the magnet. As a solution to resources being missed when the smelter its pouring the bars (and possibly a simpler solution to the current one involving lots of magnets). Why not change your logic to the following. 1) sensor to detect if the weight is 100 or more 2) when a weight of 100 or more is detected, the convertors are turned off 3) with a 1 second delay from turning of the conveyors, the bar is pored 4) the smelter is reset 5) with a 1 second delay on the message to reset the smelters, the conveyors are turned on again. You will get some variance in the weights of bars with this, but there will be variance anyway as the chunks are not all the same size.
Also, instead of using bar weight 100, you could use the weight needed to build more mining tools. That way you can see you have enough iron for x number of miners (and so on for the other resources needed)
12:25 You could resolve the double with a separate circuit that just moves the additional onto another belt that re-sends it to the the counter hooked up for detecting the additional material
you should put in an additional weight scale after your first on the conveyor belt to make the whole process working again, so when the weight of the scale reaches your wanted number that stops the conveyor belt aswell as ejecting your bar. The second weight scale will return your smelter to your melting position and the third scale starts your conveyor belt again
So, when the smelted ore hits 20 for example. Maybe you can cut the power for the conveyor for that specific ore for a few seconds and then have the bar be dropped out with a second delay so that any ore has the time to be dropped, but no new ore is supplied. Though this depends on if you can cut the power of the conveyors and it doesn't matter if the bar has a slightly larger weight every now and then. I hope this can work.
Although a really interesting way of doing it, you did make an automation system. As an Automation Engineer, I am proud that a civil engineer was able to figure it out.
I think something that would help de-spaghettify this setup would be if the dev put in some sort of container that holds up to a certain amount of ore/bars/gems/etc. and releases it when given a logic signal, the amount of which could be modified with the logic keypad.
I think something that can help you with the excess of gems getting tossed down into the furnace after it’s tossed out the bar is to have another conveyor belt system running underneath it to catch them. Then bring those conveyor belts back up to the top and try to “recycle” to ores that didn’t get smelted.
Instead of using the weight of the contents of the smelter to trigger the conveyors/magnets, how about collecting all the ore on a platform, weighing that, and then when that reaches the threshold stop the conveyors and move only the contents of that platform into the smelter. It should mean there'll be no way for any extra ore to come along late and avoid the smelter, although your bars will be slightly different sizes if a piece or two extra makes it onto the pre-smelt platform.
I watch your videos, to accompany me eating in the middle of the night. Help me a lot to digest my food, and help me imagining making things that is impossible for me to recreate it in Hydroneer
My thoughts; if you create a lower level conveyor belt for the dropped bits to land on and cycle them back into the system then, eventually 100% of them will be fed into the system. So instead of trying to use the magnets to pick up the delta's, allow them to fall onto a lower level conveyor belt that feeds them back into your system.
Would of loved a automated compacting at the end of each product (gold bars all into one gold bar, iron all into one iron bar, emerald, ruby, sapphire, etc.)
Order the minerals from rarest to most common, because if you have a more common one before a rare one, it will clog up the rarer minerals trying to get past when pulled back by the magnet. But that clogging will be eliminated if the most of the clogging which might reduce the amount of ore dropped.
This in my opinion, is what engineering is. It isn't the prettiest or lost efficient looking, but that is an Architect thing. And you my good Sir, are an Engineer!
I think easier way of accomplishing the closing of the smelter would have been to add second comparator with X=0 rule(if that's available), connect it to the lever port of the smelter and just delay it a bit to make sure the "close" signal comes after the "open" signal. I don't have the game though so I can't confirm if it works lol. That being said a few wires are fine as long as the thing works lol
This is like me playing Opus Magnum. Building and programming an overcomplicated mess that you should immediately restart when you realize how buggy and inefficient everything is, but then still take hours to fix because god dammit, this is MY mess and it's beautiful in all it's overengineered glory... especially when you didn't waste your time and actually made it work in the end :D
14:35 Oooh, really like your usage of the same music that AbroadInJapan uses in a lot of his Journey Across Japan videos. Unsure of if Chris made the music, but neat, assuming rights are being respected. Edit: maybe a remix? Idk. That front beat is very AbroadInJapan, but that guitar... dunno.
There should be a logic hopper, so that if it gets a signal it closes and on a 0 it opens giving the smelter access or to make it more complicated having the hopper read content and only drop on x and then the bar gets made as the hopper is closed to collect, that way no reasource gets through
Watching you mess around with the logic here; you should really try a game called Stormworks Build and Rescue. It goes very in depth with the logic and give you a lot of freedom to make vehicles + there are a lot of bridges. Anyway loving these videos :).
This... This is something that is both complicated and fun!? At the same time... i guess?! I really don't know how you managed but.. cheers 🥂 to that. And that is how everyone should solve problems 😂 . FYI - Out of watching probably half ot all your videos that is the one that got me to subscribe though 👌
Seems to me it might make sense to run a conveyor belt underneath the smelters with some kinda funnel to catch spilled resources, maybe a magnet to pull 'em off the arm bit, and just put them back at the beginning of the process to get re-sorted
you can separate the raw gem after polishing to make it simpler to automate. I don't know if theres a compressor that has a logic function. but you'll essentially be using the same design as the iron/gold automation for the different gem.
A funnel that you could stop with logic would work great here. Just put it above the smelter, and have it stop flow when a bar is being ejected, which can be accomplished with a delay circuit
It would be much easier to set a timer to unload all smelters every X seconds. THEN, check the weight of any ingots, and if they are too small, they get diverted back to the original conver belt and dumped into the same smelter again. Only bars over a certain weight can pass inspection. And you can choose a different weight for each bar if you wanted.
I think the problem is, that it's using tri-state logic without explicitly saying so. And it's doing it inconsistently, so you can never be sure what's going to happen until you try it out. Tri-state btw has 3 states (surprisingly!). 1, 0, and "not-connected", as if the wire weren't connected at all. So you don't get a 0 or 1, you get "nothing". That's what the "1 separator" pipe is all about. I think they've tried to keep it simple but messed it up in the process. Still, could be worse. Could be Fallout 4.
"Being an Architect we built this, um an engineer built the second one... but we built the last one and 3 out of 4 is an Architect's 100%." ~Real Cultured Architect
OMG I love how rce made paddy the main focus of the sponser I mean this is the first time I actually watched a whole sponser segment on a chanel that was not mandjtv doing grunty boi stuff XD
Halfway through the video my initial suspicion of "leaving the cauldron is just the much better solution" really crystallized itself to be correct. In the end just waiting afk for the cauldron to amass lots of ore and just making a single bar is… just so easy
instead of over-engineering all those fail safe mechanisms to prevent spare bits you can have a bottom conveyor that drops the spare bits back before the smelting mechanism
I cannot help with laughing at the "logics simulator snafu", since it reminds me of the pneumatic machinery logic course back when I tried University studies of machine engineering degree... xD
Hey RCE just another idea for it why not hook it to the belts first to turn them off before it ejects the bar? That way no extras should get through and if they do at least there's that second delay to catch it and not have it fall
I feel like this could’ve been done by maybe just counting the resources before they get put into the smelter and then when it reaches a certain value it stops the conveyors behind it so no more resources can go in. That would mean splitting up the water source tho. So I guess wherever the counter is located, he would have to have pretty much two pipe systems. One for the conveyors before the counter and one for the ones after. that way the conveyors after the counter can keep running and reset the system
i was actually able to set this up for my cloutium thanks for the No B.S. quick set up guide. 10/10 would recommend to someone who wants to make a system
Matt spent hours and hours over three videos to make three videos on tree separate bridges to cross the same gap, just so he could actively avoid using them by driving into the gap and using a menu option ._.
I think you could make it a lot simpler if you weighed it before smelting instead of during. Collect say, 50 units of stuff stuck to a magnet, then stop everything and drop it and eject. That way the signal to the smelter is always in sequence, not at some not particular time.
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Dude just use magnite on a timer (like every 20 sec or so to save some lag) to take run away nuggets on lover lvl belt and put em back in a smellter loop
as a software engineer, seeing the visual representation of spaghetti code Rube Goldberg machine with bugs just to do something twice when a simple condition is met, was something.
I felt horrible when seeing it, it could have been so much easier
pain
optimization will come later
same
You should check out the dark sorcery that is redstone computing in minecraft.
Our sympathies for all the electrical tradies that had to witness this.
I always thought an engineer was the one wearing bib overalls that pointed the train in the right direction. My, my how times have changed.
Thank you. Doesn't make me feel better tho.... im sick and horified by this... thing
still very… odd
Im not a sparky or know anything about logic gates really and even I am horrified at this. I would never attempt it my brain would implode.
As an electrician I have to say that as long as it works and doesn't end someone's life its a good machine
On behalf of everyone, I want to thank you Matt for your eye opening videos. For three years i wanted to become an architect but thanks to you the world is saved and i'm heading to med school
Another life saved, you're safe now my child
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming You are changing the world one less architect at a time. ♥
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming I just don't really understand. Is it just a joke or do you have reasoning behind why architects are bad. Please explain.
@@ieatfeet1737 (It's a joke)
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming ok
Seeing RCE start to venture closer to my field -- software engineering -- has quelled any fear I might have had about my own job security.
Software engineering is just googling the right things at the right places
@@danielwols Yes, and I make quite a living from knowing what to google and when.
He’s venturing more into digital logic, not really software engineering, don’t take all the credit.
@@conorstewart2214 my guy, they both use logic and similar concepts. I do both and one is basically a brick without the other nowdays.
Takes me back to my digital circuits classes. Learning about 74xx TTL logic chips.
Congrats on the Easter egg. Absolutely awesome from the Devs. Maybe they're trying to bribe you for a higher score of their bridge😉
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Instead of magnets; stop the conveyors, then trigger the smelter a second or two later, restarting the conveyor once the bar is detected at the output. That gives time for extra ore pieces to land and melt before it casts the bar.
Or don't bother detecting it again, just use another delay.
Wouldn't it just be easier to raise the smelters up some and have a magnet grab whatever falls below and place some conveyors underneath to flow back onto the line?
Yeah that’s what I was thinking would be the easiest way too, just insert a delay between the conveyers stopping and the smelter triggering.
It would also be good if the smelter could output its state, so then you can just detect when the smelter is open, then put that through a delay and then close it again.
Came here to say the same thing
Loved seeing the automation aspect of this. I'm a programmer - and any games that have this involved make me very happy. As for dealing with the random resources getting through... You can likely get rid of the magnets if you have your weight sensor stop the belts dropping the resources, but add a 1-2s delay to the bar being spit out. That adds room for additional resources to fall in/be caught, while preventing any more from getting in the way. then have the sensor which detects the bar is out/leaving - that immediately trips the smelter to reset, and then a very small delay after turns the belt dropping the resources back on. This does mean the bars will vary slightly in weight between them though, not sure if that's undesired.
Edit: posted this right before the revision which pretty much resolved the problem lol. solid job, if it works it works!
RCE: *spends hours creating 3 bilfs*
Also RCE: *doesn’t use them and teleports instead*
eh his just lacy as me cuz i take the buss 3 stops instead of walking a almost shorter route
I would like to point out that Bridgefour ended last episode with FIVE bridges! Did you forget the log bridge?
That doesn't connect to the town though (that's my excuse anyway!) there's also the poo bridge I built by the fishnado it ya wanna get technical!
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming being technical is for architects
engineers are the practical ones
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming you can also discount the horrible original bridge and count the log on it's place, since the log is a superior bridge
@@victorcast2467 The original bridge was made using 3D modelling software. That's an architect tool, which is why the bridge is so awful. Bridges made by RCE were made using coolculus equations, which is why they're so good. But the log bridge? It was made using LOGarithm, which is the inverse function to explodenentiation. That's why even though RCE didn't build it, it deserves such a high rating and is superior bridge to them all. Anyone can design a complicated bridge, but only a master engineer can create something so simple yet so practical. All hail the log bridge!
Maybe the four is the mean value of the Bridge Review scores?
On point engineering: take something simple and make it amazingly complex… love it
German engineering anyway
What are you talking about? It really is simple 🤣
@@xxportalxx. German engineering: Why use a standard part when we can engineer something custom for 20x the price?
Next step: Automatic loading and refueling trucks for selling your bars. That’s about as far as automation goes in vanilla. They’re really missing other things that could be triggered automatically.
Take the build everywhere and let the bars flow to the juwelier. Just have to press that one button sometimes.
Im not so pressed to have automated selling, but being able to manufacture things with logic would be nice.
Like a pipe extruder that could make pipes for you out of iron or cloutium, no more running to the shop when you bought six elbows instead of seven.
A logic smithy that could press out the selected item once it had enough bars/gems.
I think i might go make a suggestion post for these.
The developers of hydroneer are awesome.
Josh and RCE have been both referenced in the game, based on how they played the game.
My initial thought is to replace the magnet tomfoolery with another conveyor below to catch and return fallen items to the input line.
Seeing RCE play raft would be pretty interesting with how efficient he would build his boat.
If you go on the RCE archives channel he's got some streams of raft!
An an electrical engineer on a gold mine, the “logic flip flop hook” made me giggle. Need a PLC expansion pack.
8:19 The problem is no one bothers to make a new type of circuit control until someone needs something to do something in a certain way. Then, their R&D lab spends the next few months trying to come up with a new part that works the way they need it to. Then, when they got "something", it goes through its paces to see how efficiently it will work, gets refined even further, until a finished product is produced to be sold to the general public.
Finally, a use for the digital and logical circuits course that i studied in college
See Factorio.
Well, I went i did it, I bought and played this game for over 15 hours straight today for the first time after watching your video. you can put one on the miners on any part of the conveyer bely, even verticals and turns! Also you can take your hand cart down into the dwarven mine. The dwarven mine also goes SIDEWAYS, so you can build outward instead of down. I dont think I'll personally be playing with any of the logic. Oh! The pressure tanks you put the crystals in are for THE END or MIDDLE of your lines where pressure is starting to suck and it boost the pressure back up. Also putting a pressure gage towards the end of your line so you know what the pressure is. I love this game for even though its just this pluming, surprised a Italian red plumber outfit isn't available. If tier 3 pipes are green i swear! lol
Having watched you try to mess around with logic gates here, I'm very interested to see how you might do in Turing Complete.
Please, please, do a video for Turing Complete. I'm confident it will be entertaining for everyone, and it may just help you better design logic circuits in the future.
In the lumber mill we have this problem. It’s solved by 2 things. One is a speed up belt. Boards from a slower conveyor are fead onto a faster conveyor belt. This increases the gap between the boards so thy can be dropped out at the right time. The second way is a waterfall. The boards are dropped off the end of a set of chains into a gully of sorts. Then a set of chains come up from under the pile of boards with lugs just tall enough to catch one board. This way boards are kept spaced and in the proper position and can be dropped into the correct trays as the computer keeps track of each board in each lug spot. It might work in the game if you can change conveyor speeds and extend them longer so thy drop onto a slow conveyor then to a real fast conveyor. Never played this game but it looks really interesting
I feel like this video had highest amount of actual engineering out of all channel so far. Keep up good work!
As a Building Controls manager (who is coincidentally named Matt), I was cheering with each revalation being made in this video. Logic chains are fun, painful things.
Wow! I didn't expect computer engineering to be featured in today's RCE video! Great job RCE, this stuff is super complicated and I almost quit college when I had to take that class 😂😂
I think you should when the trigger is activated first stop the conveyor that drops into the furnace, then wait for every bits to fall into the furnace then you activate it. Way simpler because having a 21 weight bar is way less of a problem than the complexity of the machine and the loss that falls through and lags out the map
Matt, buddy, you can use the output of the comparer to control the logic smelter directly. No need for the flip flop
The magnet trick is clever, I just came by periodically and moved the dropped bits
One thing I wanna see, since I’m OCD, I kinda want to see you put funnels at the ends of the conveyors and the bars fall into an old smelter, so that way it doesn’t lag as badly and so that way it looks cleaner. Or you can do something like what you have right now and automate it so that way the bars fall into another logic smelter and when it reaches, maybe 5000, it dumps it out and you can just be happy with a bunch of 5000 pound bars in your base
Oh the chaos it's so beautiful I've never seen something so disorderly be so... organised
Just found this channel a week or so ago. Edits are humor are really good! Watched some of the original videos where there were only a couple hundred subscribers and the amount of growth between then and now is palpable. Right on
"Edits are humor are really good" Are you okay? The rest of your comment is well written but that part?
@@TheBanana93 I meant "and."
I'm gonna say it, that gold bridge looks like an architect designed it.
Having had to deal with these types of circuits in the past, I just think about the job of maintaining it. It really makes me think about simplifying it and reducing the errors it can generate. I would start by getting more precise timings of the worst cases for each operation in the circuit, where a process takes place, to determine the number of cycles each instruction takes. That should help you to determine how long to keep the conveyor belt turned off, wait for all possible materials to fall, wait for it to compress, eject, materials get clear and close up the receptor for new materials before you return function to the initial belt. You should not even need the magnets or the ejection sensor at the end if you get those timings figured out.
I like how he built 3 bridges and Just uses the unstuck button
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Hi RCE. With your current automation, you will have some resources get lost for the following reason.
Iron in the smelter has a weight of 99. Then 2 iron chunks come up basically touching each other. The first chunk makes the weight over 100 and so activates the pouring of the bar, which makes the second chunk of iron miss because it is too far from the magnet.
As a solution to resources being missed when the smelter its pouring the bars (and possibly a simpler solution to the current one involving lots of magnets). Why not change your logic to the following.
1) sensor to detect if the weight is 100 or more
2) when a weight of 100 or more is detected, the convertors are turned off
3) with a 1 second delay from turning of the conveyors, the bar is pored
4) the smelter is reset
5) with a 1 second delay on the message to reset the smelters, the conveyors are turned on again.
You will get some variance in the weights of bars with this, but there will be variance anyway as the chunks are not all the same size.
Also, instead of using bar weight 100, you could use the weight needed to build more mining tools. That way you can see you have enough iron for x number of miners (and so on for the other resources needed)
Put a conveyor under the smelters to return the pieces that fall through back into the system.
Its getting stuck in the middle tho, its not falling off the smelter.
@@jee7763 a hopper minecart would solve that issue no problem
@@jee7763 doesn’t hurt to have fail safes lol
@@jee7763 that means... MORE MAGNETS
after all those architect bridge building videos, glad to see some actual engineering again. welcome back RCE, so long RCA
"SIMPLE" Yeah RCE... That just gave me Mumbo's redstone vibes here.
12:25 You could resolve the double with a separate circuit that just moves the additional onto another belt that re-sends it to the the counter hooked up for detecting the additional material
Almost first, also I think this game is really good at proccesing your creations - that is game not crashing.
As a mechanical engineer with I'd like to say a decent grasp on logic gates, I both love and hate this so much, great work!!
at 8:15 if it's getting the wrong signal, then wouldn't it just need a flip flop?
At 8:30 this man became the Mumbo K. Jumbo of Hydroneer. “Simple” = Spaghet to this man.
As the MythBusters always said, "If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing"
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The Real Civil Engineer: "Hopefully you guys understand."
Me: Shredded Lettuce
This is proof that electrical engineers are engineers we take logic design for this kind of stuff
EEs aren't engineers, they're magicians
you should put in an additional weight scale after your first on the conveyor belt to make the whole process working again, so when the weight of the scale reaches your wanted number that stops the conveyor belt aswell as ejecting your bar. The second weight scale will return your smelter to your melting position and the third scale starts your conveyor belt again
You should make a bridge with the strongest shape for MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY
So, when the smelted ore hits 20 for example. Maybe you can cut the power for the conveyor for that specific ore for a few seconds and then have the bar be dropped out with a second delay so that any ore has the time to be dropped, but no new ore is supplied. Though this depends on if you can cut the power of the conveyors and it doesn't matter if the bar has a slightly larger weight every now and then. I hope this can work.
Although a really interesting way of doing it, you did make an automation system. As an Automation Engineer, I am proud that a civil engineer was able to figure it out.
This is even more proof that Engineers are smarter than Architects😅
Ah, perfection
it's actually genius to have a puppy in your sponsor part of the video, actually didn't skip it
This is why all software projects turn into spaghetti code. Thanks for allowing me to feel better about my code reviews
I think something that would help de-spaghettify this setup would be if the dev put in some sort of container that holds up to a certain amount of ore/bars/gems/etc. and releases it when given a logic signal, the amount of which could be modified with the logic keypad.
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I think something that can help you with the excess of gems getting tossed down into the furnace after it’s tossed out the bar is to have another conveyor belt system running underneath it to catch them. Then bring those conveyor belts back up to the top and try to “recycle” to ores that didn’t get smelted.
Instead of using the weight of the contents of the smelter to trigger the conveyors/magnets, how about collecting all the ore on a platform, weighing that, and then when that reaches the threshold stop the conveyors and move only the contents of that platform into the smelter. It should mean there'll be no way for any extra ore to come along late and avoid the smelter, although your bars will be slightly different sizes if a piece or two extra makes it onto the pre-smelt platform.
I watch your videos, to accompany me eating in the middle of the night. Help me a lot to digest my food, and help me imagining making things that is impossible for me to recreate it in Hydroneer
Its always nice to see an Architect showing game devs how nice bridges look.
My thoughts; if you create a lower level conveyor belt for the dropped bits to land on and cycle them back into the system then, eventually 100% of them will be fed into the system. So instead of trying to use the magnets to pick up the delta's, allow them to fall onto a lower level conveyor belt that feeds them back into your system.
Omg... This was a real world example of the sunk cost fallacy in action. You just kept adding more insanity...
Would of loved a automated compacting at the end of each product (gold bars all into one gold bar, iron all into one iron bar, emerald, ruby, sapphire, etc.)
Order the minerals from rarest to most common, because if you have a more common one before a rare one, it will clog up the rarer minerals trying to get past when pulled back by the magnet. But that clogging will be eliminated if the most of the clogging which might reduce the amount of ore dropped.
Matt the iron piece is probably from the start of the video when I mean start I mean end when you show us how it messed up so it worked perfect mate
1:54 Good to know that Patty is punishing those beheaded architects.
This in my opinion, is what engineering is. It isn't the prettiest or lost efficient looking, but that is an Architect thing. And you my good Sir, are an Engineer!
I think easier way of accomplishing the closing of the smelter would have been to add second comparator with X=0 rule(if that's available), connect it to the lever port of the smelter and just delay it a bit to make sure the "close" signal comes after the "open" signal. I don't have the game though so I can't confirm if it works lol.
That being said a few wires are fine as long as the thing works lol
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This is like me playing Opus Magnum. Building and programming an overcomplicated mess that you should immediately restart when you realize how buggy and inefficient everything is, but then still take hours to fix because god dammit, this is MY mess and it's beautiful in all it's overengineered glory... especially when you didn't waste your time and actually made it work in the end :D
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Alright, this episode has me thinking that I need to try the game now. Logic circuits make these sorts of games much more interesting!
14:35 Oooh, really like your usage of the same music that AbroadInJapan uses in a lot of his Journey Across Japan videos. Unsure of if Chris made the music, but neat, assuming rights are being respected.
Edit: maybe a remix? Idk. That front beat is very AbroadInJapan, but that guitar... dunno.
RCE heading to the logic shop saying "to make things easier for myself" has got to be the funniest thing i've seen
There should be a logic hopper, so that if it gets a signal it closes and on a 0 it opens giving the smelter access or to make it more complicated having the hopper read content and only drop on x and then the bar gets made as the hopper is closed to collect, that way no reasource gets through
Watching you mess around with the logic here; you should really try a game called Stormworks Build and Rescue. It goes very in depth with the logic and give you a lot of freedom to make vehicles + there are a lot of bridges. Anyway loving these videos :).
This... This is something that is both complicated and fun!? At the same time... i guess?! I really don't know how you managed but.. cheers 🥂 to that. And that is how everyone should solve problems 😂 . FYI - Out of watching probably half ot all your videos that is the one that got me to subscribe though 👌
Ngl, I was really confused at first. But you explained it well! Never could have done this on my own, but I get it now
This is by far the most educational video I have ever watched of yours lol
Seems to me it might make sense to run a conveyor belt underneath the smelters with some kinda funnel to catch spilled resources, maybe a magnet to pull 'em off the arm bit, and just put them back at the beginning of the process to get re-sorted
you can separate the raw gem after polishing to make it simpler to automate. I don't know if theres a compressor that has a logic function. but you'll essentially be using the same design as the iron/gold automation for the different gem.
A funnel that you could stop with logic would work great here. Just put it above the smelter, and have it stop flow when a bar is being ejected, which can be accomplished with a delay circuit
I'm usually an "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" kind of person, but as a programmer, that smelting automation system had me in physical pain
It would be much easier to set a timer to unload all smelters every X seconds.
THEN, check the weight of any ingots, and if they are too small, they get diverted back to the original conver belt and dumped into the same smelter again.
Only bars over a certain weight can pass inspection. And you can choose a different weight for each bar if you wanted.
I think the problem is, that it's using tri-state logic without explicitly saying so. And it's doing it inconsistently, so you can never be sure what's going to happen until you try it out. Tri-state btw has 3 states (surprisingly!). 1, 0, and "not-connected", as if the wire weren't connected at all. So you don't get a 0 or 1, you get "nothing". That's what the "1 separator" pipe is all about.
I think they've tried to keep it simple but messed it up in the process. Still, could be worse. Could be Fallout 4.
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The logic gates and automation seem like a lot of fun and super handy. I'd bet you could do some complicated things with it.
OMG I love how rce made paddy the main focus of the sponser I mean this is the first time I actually watched a whole sponser segment on a chanel that was not mandjtv doing grunty boi stuff XD
Using your puppy as an ad legitimately had me considering the VPN
Halfway through the video my initial suspicion of "leaving the cauldron is just the much better solution" really crystallized itself to be correct.
In the end just waiting afk for the cauldron to amass lots of ore and just making a single bar is… just so easy
Yeah cus that sounds totally fun...
For the eventual scrap piece. I would have probaly placed a conveyor line under it all that sent it back to the beginning for "recycling"
instead of over-engineering all those fail safe mechanisms to prevent spare bits you can have a bottom conveyor that drops the spare bits back before the smelting mechanism
I cannot help with laughing at the "logics simulator snafu", since it reminds me of the pneumatic machinery logic course back when I tried University studies of machine engineering degree... xD
Hey RCE just another idea for it why not hook it to the belts first to turn them off before it ejects the bar? That way no extras should get through and if they do at least there's that second delay to catch it and not have it fall
I've never seen a more acucurate representation of me playing games with these types of logic and mechanics in them, it must me a Matt thing.
I feel like this could’ve been done by maybe just counting the resources before they get put into the smelter and then when it reaches a certain value it stops the conveyors behind it so no more resources can go in. That would mean splitting up the water source tho. So I guess wherever the counter is located, he would have to have pretty much two pipe systems. One for the conveyors before the counter and one for the ones after. that way the conveyors after the counter can keep running and reset the system
i was actually able to set this up for my cloutium thanks for the No B.S. quick set up guide. 10/10 would recommend to someone who wants to make a system
Matt spent hours and hours over three videos to make three videos on tree separate bridges to cross the same gap, just so he could actively avoid using them by driving into the gap and using a menu option ._.
I'm imagining Paddy beating Matt (RCE) at Fortnite 🤣 Paddy is such a happy dog and an absolute character
Matt is pretty much an Engineering madman 😎
Suprisingly i understand all of that. Paying with redstone really does help😂
I think you could make it a lot simpler if you weighed it before smelting instead of during. Collect say, 50 units of stuff stuck to a magnet, then stop everything and drop it and eject. That way the signal to the smelter is always in sequence, not at some not particular time.
you should add all the conveyers to get them all into one and put it in some sort of funnel to drive under with the car and dump them in the back