If you want to see all 17 Olmec heads (+3 more limestone heads that most people have NEVER seen), as well as every major Megalith in Mexico: join my Olmec tour "Megalithic Mexico" (December 2024): www.mayaexploration.org/tour-olmec-Dec2024.php
Don’t believe Graham ever really claims to be ‘right’. He states this is a theory I’m putting forward to all his works. It’s mainstream academics that claim they know and they are right, just because they spent thousands of dollars on an education that may or not be correct. In truth, no one actually knows.
Were you at La Venta recently in February with an American Prof ? I was there and may have met you but I could be totally wrong. What about the bearded figures on some of the monoliths ? And maybe something like a winged disk ?
Luke You need to line the dots up!!! If you look into these cultures There was a set of Olmec twins that they talked about!! What other culture talks about twins that were heroes?? Maya!! The Olmec were Maya people!! Just like you said, there was Maya writing on the statues!! The ball game was actually a league, they played down south all the way to new Mexico and Arizona
I was raised in Mexico, my mother is Mexican, and all you have to do is take a trip down to that area, and you will see people who look like these heads.
Mexicans have a lot of Black/African DNA due to the Australasian populations mixing with the mongoloid population that migrated to the Americas after the last ice age.
The truth is, Mexicans are basically Africans and so are Native Americans hence the negro people that were here many years before Columbus but they try to keep these facts hidden to control their narrative.
I had the immense privilege of visiting Teotihuacan last week, as well as multiple museums in CDMX, and what I can say is that the Americas still hold untold amounts of historical riches. It is an immensely beautiful and rich tapestry of Stone Age cultures. As for the purposeful building of megalithic sites, I can assure you nothing was without forethought. In Teotihuacan for example, the whole plaza is built so that one can speak to another person from a great distance without raising one’s voice. I had a full on conversation, fully intelligible with my mother from nearly 1000ft away without any loss of audibility or comprehension. It is a truly astounding place. A truly astounding society, regardless of who built it.
Iron working was introduced to Europe in the late 11th century BC, from the Caucasus, and slowly spread northwards and westwards over the succeeding 500 years. Meanwhile…. The dates show that early Native Americans were among the first people in the world to mine metal and fashion it into tools.
@@Egr-et6ar Metal was never widely used by Native Americans, they were essentially Stone Age societies. The few metal objects found in pre Hispanic America are mostly ceremonial and status objects.
@@EUSA1776 While ironworking was introduced to Europe later, Native Americans in the southeastern United States had already been extracting iron ore from local deposits around 1,000 years ago. They used iron to make tools, such as arrowheads and knives.
Does it mean the currency you get from growing food for millions of people. Or even a bag of seeds that represents an essential economy for any civilizations survival.🤔
It is absolute rubbish ... and his whiny victimhood is so annoying... especially since it is him offending everyone and them just ignoring his rubbish.
If you believe what he says then humanity hasn’t done anything impressive on their own throughout history and some ancient alien race taught us everything, it takes away everything that makes us special and gives all the credit to a group of people we have no record or evidence of other than myths and legends.
Any archeologists that can look at the serpent shaped shadow crawling down that temple at a very specific and repeated time of year and say “oh that’s accidental. It’s a coincidence. Doesn’t mean anything.” need to have their degrees retracted
they dont say that at all, why the heck are you people so dang dumb, do some research yourself, and reading hancock is not research, he is a journalist and as admitted in an interview , there is not any proof of an atlantean civilisation sofar.
Im black but my grandma is indigenous Mexican from Oaxaca I’ve always wanted to go to southern Mexico and see the Pyramids and the Olmec heads. It’s crazy that all this history is suppressed and lost to us
@@GardaOrban lmao we don’t even know what language they spoke or what they called themselves. There’s a lot that we don’t know wether I’m lazy or not is irrelevant
@@YellowCapeInvincible no one alive today has anything to do with the Olmec culture. Im not allowed to be interested in them because im not an Olmec? What kind of logic is that
OK so if you saw a person who looked Olmec recently, It stands to reason that you may, being that Olmecs populated the area in the past, and left their seed in the population, lasting even today.
Mexico today is home to millions of indigenous people who have been living there for thousands of years. Those facial features are common in Mexico and many other countries south of the border.
Nearly every ancient culture has a story of a wise person coming from the sea and teaching them advanced knowledge. The fact that modern science still argues whether it happened or not is mind boggling.
The 7 Sages, a story found in ancient India, ancient Greece, ancient Mesopotamia, ancient China, and in certain ancient Meso-American Cultures. These Cultures are separated by land, seas, and time, there is no way all of them just coincidentally had the same stories.
Really enjoyed this Luke. Olmecs are fascinating. I asked you about this on our podcast too but it would be super interesting to explore the possibility that they are much older than we currently think. It’s weird that the earliest stuff is the best stuff, they appeared out of no where, all the heads were buried, and the mystery and lack of data surrounding their civilization in general. This is a huge topic that’s been largely unexplored so I’m excited it’s your first book and look forward to reading it! Keep up the great work
We don't know why the heads were built in the first place, so asking why they didn't depict the different phenotype in each head is a moot point in my opinion. We should not look at the heads and infer that all the Olmec looked like this. There are hundreds of other artifacts that depict Olmec phenotype such as: Seated Bench Figure holding a baby "El Senor de Las Lima's," Hunchback figure, Ballplayer, Baby figure, Jaded Mask, Baby Face, The Prince, The Wrestler, Tuxtla Statuette.....etc People tend to look at the colossal heads and infer that these must not be "Native American," because they don't have the "standard" Native American phenotype.
@@marcossealey8612 What facts 🤨 All mainstream do is to say 'we know the science.' And spout a lot of unsubstantiated trite, using big words, that could be interpreted in more than one fashion. Because they _don't know._ At least Hancock has an open mind. Unlike your apparent friends in close-minded industries.
I haven't read anything detailed about the Olmec, but recently on the Earth Ancient podcast, Edwin Barnhart, an Olmec expert, explained that "they came out of nowhere" is a popular misconception. We observe progress in art and architecture.
@chiccngeorge3058 . I would take pause before banking your beliefs on the Olmec being the first North Americans. There is likely another 150k years of evidence that is forever lost to geological actions. We don't know who the first North Americans were. We don't KNOW much of anything about history, and for good reason. History, and humanity, is constantly being reset.
There are Peruvian legions that Spanish missionaries recorded that emerge at the same time the Olmecs appear. They didn't come from nowhere. They came from the East by sea.
What you said about the artstyle being fully developed is to me, as someone who has worked in art and design for many years, one of the most mysterious aspects about all of these lost ancient cultures. Who originally designed the typical egyptian art style, for example? Who decided that this is the only art style thats going to be used over thousands of years? What art style(s) have they used before they came up with the final style? Today we have countless different styles of art, everybody draws uniquely different. Why would they only use this one art style? Were other styles forbidden? Was creativity itself forbidden because only this one style was allowed?
I'd guess a large reason for the uniformity is that these cultures used art as a language. While we today still do have many symbols that reference certain (or many) things, our written language is so far removed from any reference of our reality, it's tough for us to overlay the two (art and language) into a single piece, where those cultures could as naturally as breathing. Or, reading.
The modern sense of art as this personal kind of superficial hyper-individualistic expression was not shared by the ancients. Art wasn't just a single guy vomiting his feelings up for the whole world to see. For the ancients, art was something far greater and deeper; art was a dedication to the universe and to the gods, a vehicle for the transcendent to enter into material reality, a window for eternity to shine through into time. In accordance with that ethos, a shared language of symbols evolved enabling people to effectively communicate information about that higher transcendent reality, because naturally, the transcendent tends to defy human expression: the shared artistic resources characterizing the homogenous style of a peoples was just the result of people needing to draw from a shared wellspring of symbols, without which experience of the divine and transcendent eluded stable understanding and concrete formulation. But from within that culture, the art did not appear homogenous at all- it only looks "all the same" to you because you do not have the knowledge necessary for decoding their symbols, so you cannot actually pick out the details and differences between one piece of art and another, it all just blurs together indistinguishably.
This is a great observation and comment, the only time Egypt did depart from the grid style, no artistic license style of art was under Ankhenaten. He seemed to have introduced creative freedom into the culture, allowing experimentation and imagination to flourish for his short reign.
Check Jason Breshear's (Archaix's) theory on the nature of reality and how it explains human history. It explains how certain civilizations seemingly popped up in history out of nowhere, with their culture and traditions fully formed, with no historical precursors that explain how they came to be.
Graham Hancock has some pretty cool hypotheses with ample preliminary evidence. We have to be careful when dismissing explanations and not dismiss the evidence that challenges existing explanations. Thanks so much for the intro to Olmecs
@@eeeaten their research is probably watching joe rogan. Graham says the things that people want to believe, so they get hooked. Then he'll say something about mainstream archaeology hides things and attacks him. He plays on people's intrigue into the mysterious and unknown, then gets you to distrust the experts. That's all he needs to do for the scam to work. His ideas are ridiculously silly though
@@Userhfdryjjgddfhe just plays on people's intrigue of the unknown then makes them think that the "mainstream" experts (which just means anyone with a real qualification in the relevant field of science) can't be trusted. That's how it works. He has books and netflix specials to sell. You can't do that without convincing some people to dismiss the real scientific research
Garbage if he resemble Olmec head, he is the decendance of Olmec people who were African, MOTE, popular Mexican American comedian George Lopez dona DNA test and to his surprised that he have almost 20 % African DNA ,the people you are Mexican 100% is true but Mexican of African ancestory
@@wwkd7921mexico is a mestizo country and depending on the individual some have higher indigenous dna while others have more spanish so her comment is valid
@@DwrankoheartMexico is a mestizo country who still has a large indigenous population, Mexico has more natives than the US and Canada combined. Mexicans arent spaniards
While I agree that there is a wide phenotypic range for Native Americans, why does such an assertion only seem to make plausible sense when discussing the phenotypes of the venerated head of an ancient Olmec? A head that is clearly more emblematic of people we’d loosely describe today as “African.” And why, when we discuss Native American history, we do not show images of this phenotype diversity except when it includes more Euro-mixed Native Americans? There seems to be a coordinated strike pattern from communities of Geologists and Anthropologists alike against any ancient artifacts that perhaps could be attributed to people resembling Blsck Africans or those phenotypically associated with them. Be it Olmecs or the Sphinx of Giza, with a prognathism only attributed to people we’d call, today, Sub-Saharan. But because the Western stories about them, over the past several centuries, are that they were an unremarkable, less-evolved, sub-species (ergo, SUB-Saharan) of humans with no meaningful contributions towards advanced civilizations… we still hold onto those old Wives-tales. Could it be that people we loosely attribute to being “African” today were in fact ALL over the world centuries and millennia ago? And rather than recognize this, we’re quick to find ways to distance them from any possible African origin?
Keep it simple. You're saying it's a little racist to say that the Olmecs couldn't have been African. Then you make a bunch of huge leaps of logic that seem to follow from your premise.
@@nolimitstrength I'm saying the micro conversation of the Olmecs is emblematic of a broader macro narrative, propagated by such communities as Historians, Geologists, Archeologists, and Egyptologists, that seeks to delineate any Afro/African people from any noteworthy civilizations or artifact veneration.
@@ian_fordThey were also Natives that appeared whyte. Probably the most famous quote about the Cloud People comes from the Spnish Pedro Cieza de Leon, he wrote that the Chachapoya were ““the whytest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas’ wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple.” Orellana, another Spnish wrote a similar description, and also stated that the Cloud People were much taller than the Spniards, and had extremely light skin and blonde hair, pointing to the fact that they were of “Eropean” ancestry not “Mediterranean.” These facts continue to puzzle modern day scientists, as there is no evidence of previous Eropean genes being present in this area of the world before the Cloud People.
The handbag is a simple seed bag. It represents the development of agriculture which allows for the division of labor and the rise of human civilization. When you no longer have to worry about how your going to not only feed yourself but significant numbers of people on a daily basis then you allow for the human mind to start exploring outside of basic day to day survival.
I have a theory about the "handbags". They're not handbags at all, but keys. If you look at many of the structures in all of these ancient civilizations, you will also find what are "false doors", or what look like doors carved into the rocks and structures with a rectangle shape carved into the false door that looks like a keyhole. My theory is that these false doors are actually gateways into portals that can transport these people to and from wherever they may come from in space or time, and these so-called handbags would fit into these "keyholes" that would transport them to and from different dimensions. These false doors are also found throughout Egypt, Mesopotamia, Central, South and North America. So like the "handbag" the false doors are also found in all ancient civilizations.
That’s interesting and all, but is also quite a huge, and frankly unscientific, leap. That’s precisely why academically-minded people dislike “fringe” academics, because it leads to rampant and wild speculation like this.
In the movie Boy Kills The World, the main character is training and uses an olmac head to roll up and down a hill. When I saw it I thought of this channel
And THEY say that it was all done with hand tools 😂. Ask ANY stone mason today if they could do this with current hand tools and they would all say, NFW
I so agree. My hypothesis. People, master sailors came to south america, taught south americans sailing, astronomy (because SAILORS need it the most, so THEY had to be the masters of it) and those stone builders taught the sea people their skills in stone crafting. Then these sea people kept on going and sailed to europe and taught them stoneworking they learned from south america, and learned simple farming from them, and taught them astronomy in return. And they kept going and taught things they had learned from other cultures and spread the knowledge on and on. and kept getting wiser in the process, and they came back to their homeland wiser. probably did this circle many times, spreading new knowledge as people get better.
@eeeaten so theory of relativityvwas fantasy before it was proven? Don't you know in science it's called a "hypothesis" and not a fantasy? Now, you learn3d a new word today!
@eeeaten do people in academia keep saying " your hypothesis has no evidence"? Because the answer would ALWAYS BE "yeah, that's why it's called a hypothesis!" Dah!
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. George Carlin. Clearly George had seen how people comment things on Internet
@@bujinkanatori you could just look this stuff up so you don't look dumb. a hypothesis is a suggested explanation, a theory is the best explanation that matches the evidence. anyone can dream up a hypothesis to explain something, but it's just a fantasy story until it's been tested with the evidence.
People are mistaking polynesian features with African features, Infact they look more Samoan mixed with Indigenous rather than African. It wont take long to head down south and traverse the jungle and villages to find these features and brown skin. Heck even my Aunt is often mistaken for Asian polynisian but is Mexican. Search up the people of oaxaca there descendants were the zapotec (they inhabited and existed around the same time the olmecs did 400BC) Climate changes, evolution and adaptations in facial anatomy/structures due to limited amounts of genetic disposition should be takin in to the fact and studied. For example noses have adapted to our environments over time, wider nostrils are correlated with populations whose ancestors evolved in warmer, more humid regions. (Africa, central America, south America) you get it. "People with narrower nostrils fared better and had more offspring than people with wider nostrils, in COLDER CLIMATES. This lead to a gradual decrease in nose width in populations living far away from the equator. "Given that a significant portion of breathing also happens through the mouth (especially when exposed to heat), lips are pretty much like the gateway for colder air being inhaled and exhaled. So, the larger the lips, the more heat that can be disseminated. Thus, people living in hotter climatic conditions gradually evolved to have bigger lip. The opposite is true for people in colder climates, They get a survival advantage. The olmecs and the Native people of America were still evolving in genetics as compared to the Old World when the Spanish arrived.
@@Thehabanero_ were was he a slave from? Lol I thought he was a Prince? Wasn't he from San Lorenzo, Veracruz where the Olmec were once at? Are the Most indigenous people in Oaxaca? Your acting like La Malinche, cause she hated the dark skin Montezuma and bowed to the white Spanish lol
DNA testing on ancient Olmec remains in 2018 revealed that the Olmecs were not related to African populations, but instead shared genetic markers with indigenous populations of Mexico and Central America. This disproved the theory of some historians that the Olmecs originated in Africa, based on supposed similarities between African and Olmec art and the facial features of some carved heads. Instead, the DNA study found the presence of mutations in the "A" maternal lineage, one of the five mitochondrial haplogroups most common in indigenous populations of the Americas. This suggests that the Olmecs originated in America, like other native Americans, who may have descended from Asian ancestors who entered North America during the Great Ice Age.
@@StrangeforceSADNA testing on ancient Olmec remains in 2018 revealed that the Olmecs were not related to African populations, but instead shared genetic markers with indigenous populations of Mexico and Central America. This disproved the theory of some historians that the Olmecs originated in Africa, based on supposed similarities between African and Olmec art and the facial features of some carved heads. Instead, the DNA study found the presence of mutations in the "A" maternal lineage, one of the five mitochondrial haplogroups most common in indigenous populations of the Americas. This suggests that the Olmecs originated in America, like other native Americans, who may have descended from Asian ancestors who entered North America during the Great Ice Age.
@@dndmfs only 17 Olmec heads have been discovered. None of them have hair. Only one Olmec head has that feature that many people claim is braids. They are actually Quetzal feathers.
@@dndmfs the facial features on the Olmec heads are extremely common in Mexican people. The Olmec heads lack prognathism which is a “negroid trait”. DNA tests have been done on human skeletons found in Olmec territory. Proving to be the same people are modern day indigenous Mexicans. Haplogroup A,B,C,D and X. Not black or African at all. Google is your friend as you said.
Referring to the hand bag and serpent image. I think a lot of times we project our modern technology onto ancient people. We like to assume it’s an image of a person riding in a vehicle, because that’s the sitting position when riding in a plane, a car, etc. I think we can all agree they didn’t have cars or planes so I would assume they didn’t even have a concept of that. It seems to me more like it would represent the image of a child sitting in someone’s lap. Almost representing someone sitting in the lap of a wise leader or a God and passing down the knowledge within the hand bag. At least that’s what I see.
@@LuisRamirez-vv4dk nothing ridiculous about it. Our arrogance in assuming these people couldn’t have been in contact or hadn’t devised the means of transportation over vast distances despite such glaring similarities in their cultures is profoundly obtuse .
@@dndmfs There is no glaring similarities. You are the one being obtuse here. It is totally ridiculous. The burden of proof i on you idiots and you're not doing a good job.
Because the story is, Black people never accomplish anything, while there are evidence everywhere on the planet that they did, There's African/Oceania/Australian DNA all over south and central America, and they have more than one Skull with Negroid features in Brazilian dating back to about 12,000 years ago, some entity tried to burn that museum down, where they're stored those skulls and other items the point to a Black presence few years ago too, someone wanted that evidence gone. So this guy say he's writing a book on the Olmec(s) but will it all be truthful information? after watching this video more likely not.
.....ANOTHER thing: although MANY native Asians are apparently WELL aware of it, Austronesian / Negroid lines have been there MUCH longer than the more familiar 'Mongoloid' ones - a STRONG case case could actually be made for mankind having first emerged from the Pacific (RATHER than southern Africa, where they may have MIGRATED to from Australia - or even 'Lemuria'; another now-submerged continent of which IT, Tasmania & New Zealand could have been a PART.....)
@@Egr-et6ar : WRONG - there are still MANY skeletons around Central & South, NORTH America NOT yet forensically examined which will UNQUESTIONABLY display Near Eastern, European genetic heritage - with SO much cultural evidence available, ABSURD to believe otherwise.....
Yes.. Mostly in Southern Mexico & Central America, there are still many indigenous people that look very much like those Olmec heads. With the same facial features, they have - somewhat - pudgy bodies & straight hair - unless with braids - .. Their DNA analysis have shown ancient East Asian origins & zero ancient African DNA.
The absence of any D.N.A. or skeletal remains for the Olmecs does not reveal a Time of occupation. Some Heads were uncovered from underneath 25 feet of Sedimentary dust. This puts them in the 100,000 year old strata.
Also have to take into deep consideration the amount of Europeans in Spanish bloodline stats came down and mixed with these populations change the time of the Olmac and Toltec
Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible. Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM. Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial. For more info that further debunks Mėstízo myth, Sėė 📚➡️ The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE By Victor Mejia
What's funny about this whole thing is the first Spanish to come were pretty much forced to come and colonize and it was mainly those that were persecuted by the Spanish Inquisition and the Holy Latin Roman Inquisition for that matter. It was a dirty tough business for nobles so like the first ones to colonize or explore here many had African ancestry from the Moors, and Ladinos. The Pueblo people said they were but the probably wouldn't have all looked quote on quote "Black". www.nps.gov/ethnography/aah/AAheritage/SpanishAmB.htm
Demko just gets it! Give the people what they want and offer it in different versions and price points so everyone can get in on the fun. You can tell when someone is passionate about what they do. I'm stoked to get my hands on these.
You can’t remove the helmet of a giant stone Boulder. There is no Afro on the heads or any visible hair carved on them. The only Olmec artifacts with hair depict people with straight hair.
@YellowCapeInvincible - lol, you seem overly invested in denying what our "lying eyes" see. Cheddar Man in England and indigenous Australians are just more evidence of original 100% humans = no Neanderthug DNA 👹
Luke - you did a fine job intuitively covering many of the questions I had about the Olmecs and it was useful listening to Graham Hancock add his dimension and perspective. RB
Even the people who work at the museum where these statues are, say they think they are of African descent...plus they are wearing braids..under those helmets their hair is braided..ive never, ever, ever seen a messican in braids..
Definitely got some Elizabeth Warren vibes from you when ya were describing your facial features. Lol. I joke. See ya at CS24!!! Hail the 199!! Let's gooooo!!!!
Hahahaha, I have something around 4-6% Yucatec in me from my mom’s side. If you look at Stucco images of Maya people, I have some similarities in my nose/cheekbones & chin. And yes! See you soon!
It’s really asinine that so many people disrespect the Olmecs and their descendants today. The indigenous people of Mexico by claiming they were Africans, Polynesians or anything others than American Indian.
@@natureboy5990 there are still millions of indigenous people living in Mexico and almost every other country who never mixed Spaniards. The idea that all people living in Mexico are mixed native with Spanish is completely untrue.
It’s a big claim at 12:41 lol Multiple civilisations have no interaction with each other, But all depicted a man in stone with a bag and bringing civilisation. Not hard at all, very simple lol
Ivan Van Sertima wrote about the Olmec. They were Africans who came to the Americas to trade with the indigenous people here. Thats why the head dress look like west African headdresses and their noses look African. “They Came Before Columbus” - Ivan Van Sertima.
I met a Native American from Maine who told me that his people were trading with African travelers thousands of years ago, and that these African traveled up and down the Americas as skilled sailors, artisans, and spiritualists.
Yes that is correct. They have found artifacts from Africa in South America. According to European journals they documented seeing black people in the America's prior to the slave trade. Also many fail to credit the travels of the Oceania tribes to the America's as well.
@@eeeaten yes they have. You just need to do your research. The Smithsonians all ready proved it and it would be easier for the Polynesians to make it to the Americas than the Mongolians. You can't possibly believe 2 continents was completely empty and the Natives didn't see nobody. We need to study what made them leave Mongolia.
It's my understanding thar the heads like the massive stone balls that are also found in the area are impossible to date. The dates are derived from the organic material and depth of soil around the heads. These have nothing to do with the dates the carvings were made only when they were abandoned to the jungle
You're a reasonable guy and I appreciate that. I too believe the natives likely built the things we see in the Americas, HOWEVER, there's a few tribes in the US who - to this day - share stories about how they found, not built, many structures. Indiana has a few of those structures I'm referring to but I can't think of the name of the local tribe there at the moment
Luke There is a book by a Mayan Day keeper Humbutz Men, called The 8 calendrers of the Maya. In that book they tell of the Maya from central America went to Africa, Asia and Europe 12,500 bc. went they went home they brought back DNA mixed with African, Asia and European Blood. I'm Mexican I have Europe, Asian and African DNA. GO FIGURE!!! You could problem fine this book at the library. This books is filled with facts about the Pyramids and so much more, you need to see it for yourself.
To see different people from åfröcentrist to eurocentrist to even Chinese making theories to claim the people had influences on Olmecs/and or were the Olmec people - shows really how great the people were/are.
There are people living in the same area today that look exactly like those heads. They claim to be descendants of the Olmec, Toltec, and the Maya. I don't doubt them a bit. But I don't put any belief in much of what Hancock says.
@@stevesanders1905 those groups were wiped out when the Spanish conquistador arrived right? So how could anyone be descendants today. Are you related to Benjamin Franklin 😂
@@kingdeecash0074 It's because they didn't kill all the people. I would think that was common knowledge. You haven't done any research on this have you ?
@@stevesanders1905 lmao 🤣 you have absolutely no clue to what your speaking on my pale face friend lol Im from this land aboriginal do understand the meaning? I usually don't argue with cave dwellers 😂 but I'll teach you like the Moors taught the Wildmen "Allegory of the Continents" 16 17th century Renaissance art , tell me who's shown representing the America's?
The simplest explanation [Ockham's razor] is that Africans came from Egypt to west Africa to central America. When they came to central America they has an already formed culture. Sure enough the cosmology of some west African tribes and their dating system is the same as the Olmecs. That guy you met at the museum was a descendant if the Olmecs obviously.
You call that Ockhams razor? Mexico today is still home to millions of indigenous people who look identical to the Olmec heads. The facial features you see on their artwork is extremely common in Mexican people. The Olmec civilization has absolutely nothing to do with Africans. There has never been skeletons of Africans found in Olmec territory. Human remains found in Olmec territory have been proven to be 100% Native American. Haplogroup A,B,C,D and X.
Mexico today is home to over 60 Native American communities. The Nahua people of are the direct descendants of the Aztecs. They are the people who gave the Olmecs their name. Olmecatl means “rubber people” in Nahuatl. The Aztec language. The Mixe Zoque are the direct descendants of the Olmecs.
Old world diseases would've wiped out the native american population 😂😂😂 small pox doesn't ring a bell??? That originated in Africa among numerous other diseases and viruses smh
You’re completely right that not everyone that originated in the Americas looks the same for example, my father is a Otomi descent. He has a round face fat nose. Big lips and a dark complexion, and if he were to let his hair grow out, it would be almost thick straight My point is he doesn’t look like he’s of any African descent. He has those attributes, but you could tell the difference.
If you guys have any other TH-cam videos/podcast clips you'd like me to break down/react to: leave a link in this thread! Also, new Olmec lecture-video coming next week + a huge Olmec announcement. Let the year of the Olmecs begin...
I do. Would you mind break down this video from BAM? (Shout out to dubber @funnyoldeworld Jahannah James.) I find that those caves in Barabar and Nagarjuni have similar qualities in finishing and accuracy with the Serapeum from Egypt. I'm pro data and objective thinking a la @DeDunking, and it'd be cool if you cover it, since you are far more educated and well connected than me. Thanks in advance, Luke. th-cam.com/video/iF6qv1CC5_4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jMNSc_Bz3RTBeUgX
Whoa. My comment is gone. Naughty TH-cam. I was asking if you could do a breakdown for a video below from B.A.M. I find the Barabar-Nagarjuni caves and the Serapeum from Egypt share the similar quality, finishing, and accuracy. Since you're far more educated in this subject, I'd be grateful if you could cover it in the future. Thanks in advance, Luke. Wish you all the best! th-cam.com/video/iF6qv1CC5_4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jMNSc_Bz3RTBeUgX
3rd comment. My previous comments are gone. Naughty TH-cam. I was asking if you could do a breakdown for a video from B.A.M. I find the Barabar-Nagarjuni caves and the Serapeum from Egypt share the similar quality, finishing, and accuracy. Since you're far more educated in this subject, I'd be grateful if you could cover it in the future. Thanks in advance, Luke. Wish you all the best!
It's fascinating, because you describe your appearance as Maya but for me, a person from Europe you look at from the Caucasus or the Middle East or possibly someone of Jewish nationality. It's amazing how physical features are distributed on the planet, because theoretically at that time these cultures had no contacts.
@@alexortiz7446so what they were natural way fight each other alike brothers and sisters used with arrow and bow without a poison toxically weapon old world health care issues an cancer ect but not here back to the futured zero
The "handbag" symbol at Golbeki Tepe appears to be a symbol for sunrise, an equinox symbol. The guy holding one might be "the man who knows the calendar".
*Those Olmecs heads look like they have African features, but that seems to be the problem, Africans in the America's first is always going to be a problem for a certain group of people so they need to now look like Polynesians. The story of Mana Musa brother coming to New World and never returning back to Africa is one that doesn't get any consideration by Westerners because they can't fathom Africans as explorers of the world or Africans as anything at all. Go visit Mali, they will tell you a tale of who landed in the Americas 100 years before Europeans. Africans Have Their Own History That They Have Passed Among Themselves For Generations.*
Luke i hope one day maybe you could get graham on the show and talk about these things? Very interesting, i get people views on graham but its people like him who have got me into all this. Another great video 👍
@@MAAT33G To be fair, it is a bit of a rough and obscure topic. So many of the mounds have been worn down, the evidence so fleeting, and most of the research is over a century old.. Although, what evidence we do have is so incredible.. Definitely a rabbit hole worth exploring for anyone else reading this who hasn't yet.
@@dankmansalley417 I'm not against the idea, it'd help explain much of the scale we see, with many of those ancient sites. Giant people, or giant-scale technology, both are equally impressive, imo
The Olmecs were people of African descent who came to the Americas from Western Africa on long boats. Just, look at the Lips, Noses, and Hairstyles on the human heads. The Africans were in the Americas Thousands of Years before the Europeans.
The Olmecas facial features are common among modern-day Mexicans ~ people are still alive with these Mexican- Indigenous features ~ with NO ~West Coas t Sub-Saharan-Africans blood-lines 😂🎉! Read the comments 😮
The Original people were on every part of the Earth, while those known today as Europeans were mostly in the area of the Caucasus. You know that line... thus the term "Indo-European."
Could we piece this together with genetics, specifically YDNA. As far as i know there only two major YDNA haplogroups in the Americas... Q and C. Which are quite far apart on the phylogenetic tree, C is closer to African haplogroups and Q is close to lighter people. I wonder who was there first, if at all maybe they came together but as there are varied features maybe it could be explained by this.
My brother in law is from Veracruz where these heads are from. he and his brother look identical to these heads. they have recently taken DNA tests for one of my nieces school projects on family tree timelines. Results came back all Native American ancestry. Nothing else. Im sorry people, but you will never find African haplogroup DNA in any indigenous people with no recent interracial marriages still living in Mexico, Guatemala etc. This is the only way to settle this argument. Sorry again, but the olmec belong to the meso american people. Link to recent geneticist research th-cam.com/video/q03Nj2tVH5s/w-d-xo.html
@YellowCapeInvincible I agree with you 💯.bro movies be telling us truths that .. they play them as fantasy or in our kids' stories. were too naive to see
To see different people from åfröcentrist to eurocentrist to even Chinese making theories to claim the people had influences on Olmecs/and or were the Olmec people - shows really how great the people were/are but some of the people still have self hate….
@@YellowCapeInvincible they look a lot more black than they do native mexicans but olmec head sculptures were already found with afros on them so those native mexicans you mention got those features from the ancient africans
Of course they are not Hispanic. They are not black either. They represent indigenous Americans. Mexico today is home to millions of indigenous people who never mixed with Spaniards. Mexico today is home to millions of people who look identical to those heads. Black people have prognathism. A negroid trait that does not exist in Olmec art.
This is something blk ppl seem to not understand. HISPANIC Mexicans and INDIGENOUS Mexicans are two different people. Hispanic means people from Spain. Most people who live in Mexico are not Hispanic. People of Spanish descent only make up about 20% of the population in Mexico. Most Mexicans today are indigenous people. Yes they speak Spanish but Mexico today is also home to over 360 languages that date back thousands of years. The facial features you see on the Olmec heads are extremely common in indigenous Mexican people. Obviously people from Spain are not related to the Olmecs.
Thick lips and wide noses are not exclusive to black people. The prognathism of Africans is contradictory to the artwork of the Olmecs. The Olmecs also depicted themselves with straight hair and the bowl hair cut. Black people do not have Straight hair. You guys can’t have bowl cuts.
They are African features. You are wrong..This why there are no megalithic statues with similar facial features in Meso-America other than the Olmec statues.
The Olmecs are Afrikan Ancient Egyptians via west Afrika, around Ghana and Nigeria. They extracted rubber from the rubber tree Funtumia elastica, which is native to that region of west Afrika. They then transported the trees to South America, where they are now considered native trees. Olmec refers to their rubber processing abilities.
absolutely not. the first africans in the americas arrived in the 1500s. the rubber tree in the americas is Pará (Havea brasiliensis), native to the amazon. 99% of the world's rubber comes from Pará rubber trees. genetics shows ALL the oldest human remains in the americas are native american, not african.
Wouldn’t it make sense that these different native Americans began to change in phenotypes later as they became mixed with other populations like European and Asian and Polynesian? The base population would be the Olmecs which were clearly one phenotype as the depicted one phenotype. We have to stop thinking the world has always looked as it looks today im sorry to say it but everyone Europeans included all go back to native Kenyans so to think that they mutated THEN left Africa then started setting up civilizations elsewhere is inherently racist. let’s just call a spade a spade the Olmec were black Africans (as was the base population around the world). You trying to compare someone in Veracruz today after all the Spanish French Irish Italian Dutch and Chinese mixing is beyoooooond me lol. We are all one so I don’t see why it’s so hard to admit these things. Google cheddar man in Britain. You’ll find it’s a black man with blue eyes and curly hair no matter where you look the first people were black then mutated probably from environmental changes but to think they were Neanderthal types until they muted then began building civilization is the racist thought that keeps us locked in this cycle. I’m not saying black people built every civilization in the world I’m not afrocentric but in this specific context of who carved these heads and the people they represent let’s call a spade a f-ing spade
As you so clearly and accurately stated, we must stop envisioning the world of the past as looking like the world of the present. Thus your assertion of historic black africans is equally guilty of such transference. It's most likely that their was no Africa. At least not in the way that we know it today. The truth is that our weakest quality, and this applies to every single one of us, is our inability to see humanity, and in extension life, as one. I'm in you and you are in me and we would be wise to embrace the concept enthusiastically. I'll guarantee that the opposition to a unified thinking will present their hate and condemnation with a robust level of virility.
It always amazes me that the people who are opposed to the Olmecs being of African origin and insist on them being Native Americans or Mexican how they forget that native Americans and Mexican know their history and say that they are Not Olmec and that they are a separate people. The Mayan people don’t claim to be Olmec hence the name Olmec as in “those people over there”.
They were called the rubber people dna has been done on olmeca tomb and halgroup H which is native indigenous L would be African origins but no L markers found .
Ridiculous these people are Spanish Spaniards European from Spain not anything to do with olmecs this DNA guy here ridiculous not a lie because I don't know but ridiculous already been proven these thieves are like Egyptians ridiculous
The Hair of the Gods : wooly hair and dark skin Yeshua/ jesus ( wooly hair brass skin) Buddha ( according to Japanese , curly hair dark skin ) India 🇮🇳 ( like ten gods with black skin ) Enki - summarian tablets ( he complained when he was sick his dread locks hurt to nimma ) Gilgamesh - wooly hair so black it was described blue/ black . The list goes on with ancient gods. Africa jumpstarted everywhere with a pyramid under annunaki rule .
@eeeaten one word responses I can tell this will be boring, I need someone who's studied the entire planets mythology, creation stories, religion, summarian tablets , annunaki , catalog every god on this planet , not only study magic but know the source of where it comes from , the power of numbers , shapes , words , planetary energies and what they do for us , sacred geometry and how magic applies , the bible of every faith dumped on hard once you realize Genesis thru the new testament is reused stories from , akkadian, hittite , babylonian, Persian, Egyptian, Greek, and Roman influence .. go watch a chicken sandwich review and stay out of my way until I get a real challenge to squash as well no one is close to me have a great day btw your life is a lie and so is your god . Lower case g for god
@eeeaten one word responses and no intellectual rebuttals? You know nothing apparently to even battle me in ancient anything. It's not my fault your ancestors lied to make you feel more important, and know everyone's waking up .
I dont understand you how you think, you are already telling me its me its not a pyramid, you dont no what im talking about, you see you are the devil the bible speak of.[ devaluator], your 4father were angry abt a black excellence. South africa has solomon mine and 4get about any link. Please dont respond devil
they're not african. check out African Origins of Olmec Civilization - Debunked
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Maybe the Olmecs were simply Black people? Who says that Black people cant be Indigenous to this Henisphere, being that Black people are the oldest race? THERE ARE Black people all over this planet. Wouldn’t it make sense that we are / were everywhere first, being Indigenous to the planet? Why is that so hard to admit? If the Aztec and Mayan got their calendar and civilization from the Black race, THEY GOT EVERYTHING FROM THE BLACK RACE. Doesn’t that make logical sense? My eyes aren’t lying to me and they aren’t lying to these so called scholars. They are suffering from cognitive dissonance.based on their race based miseducation.
"black people" is not a meaningful grouping of people. the first people of the americas were various shades of native american people, there's no such thing as "the black race".
@@eeeaten if humanity started in Africa and humans seeded the planet then Africans technically seeded the planet. What’s the argument here? You got some palm colored people who want to argue against the Omecs being black but wouldn’t anyone who lives anywhere just be Africans who went elsewhere, making Olmecs African by default.
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Don’t believe Graham ever really claims to be ‘right’. He states this is a theory I’m putting forward to all his works. It’s mainstream academics that claim they know and they are right, just because they spent thousands of dollars on an education that may or not be correct. In truth, no one actually knows.
Were you at La Venta recently in February with an American Prof ? I was there and may have met you but I could be totally wrong. What about the bearded figures on some of the monoliths ?
And maybe something like a winged disk ?
Luke
You need to line the dots up!!!
If you look into these cultures
There was a set of Olmec twins that they talked about!!
What other culture talks about twins that were heroes??
Maya!!
The Olmec were Maya people!!
Just like you said, there was Maya writing on the statues!!
The ball game was actually a league, they played down south all the way to new Mexico and Arizona
I was raised in Mexico, my mother is Mexican, and all you have to do is take a trip down to that area, and you will see people who look like these heads.
Mexicans have a lot of Black/African DNA due to the Australasian populations mixing with the mongoloid population that migrated to the Americas after the last ice age.
@@jasonmartin7798no my guy...it's slavery
@@jasonmartin7798They bought more African slaves than the British. So over 8 million. Ya
@@beng4647 These Olmec heads are thousands of years old.
The truth is, Mexicans are basically Africans and so are Native Americans hence the negro people that were here many years before Columbus but they try to keep these facts hidden to control their narrative.
I had the immense privilege of visiting Teotihuacan last week, as well as multiple museums in CDMX, and what I can say is that the Americas still hold untold amounts of historical riches. It is an immensely beautiful and rich tapestry of Stone Age cultures. As for the purposeful building of megalithic sites, I can assure you nothing was without forethought. In Teotihuacan for example, the whole plaza is built so that one can speak to another person from a great distance without raising one’s voice. I had a full on conversation, fully intelligible with my mother from nearly 1000ft away without any loss of audibility or comprehension. It is a truly astounding place. A truly astounding society, regardless of who built it.
Iron working was introduced to Europe in the late 11th century BC, from the Caucasus, and slowly spread northwards and westwards over the succeeding 500 years. Meanwhile…. The dates show that early Native Americans were among the first people in the world to mine metal and fashion it into tools.
@@Egr-et6ar Metal was never widely used by Native Americans, they were essentially Stone Age societies. The few metal objects found in pre Hispanic America are mostly ceremonial and status objects.
@@EUSA1776 While ironworking was introduced to Europe later, Native Americans in the southeastern United States had already been extracting iron ore from local deposits around 1,000 years ago. They used iron to make tools, such as arrowheads and knives.
They are Mu'urs DNA 🧬 never lie
@@YochananIbnYosefBey 100% Native American.
That handbag is in all major ancient cultures.
Purse- SUN.
Does it mean the currency you get from growing food for millions of people. Or even a bag of seeds that represents an essential economy for any civilizations survival.🤔
Kinda like it’s possible that people needed bags to carry things everywhere
Why wouldnt they have bags back then were they to carry everyrhibg by hand? Yes they wven had clothes art and music back then
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I really never understood all the hatred towards graham hancock. I Find.
His theories and research fascinating
Its BS
It is absolute rubbish ... and his whiny victimhood is so annoying... especially since it is him offending everyone and them just ignoring his rubbish.
If you believe what he says then humanity hasn’t done anything impressive on their own throughout history and some ancient alien race taught us everything, it takes away everything that makes us special and gives all the credit to a group of people we have no record or evidence of other than myths and legends.
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Any archeologists that can look at the serpent shaped shadow crawling down that temple at a very specific and repeated time of year and say “oh that’s accidental. It’s a coincidence. Doesn’t mean anything.” need to have their degrees retracted
Which ones said that? I'm trying to get quotes. I haven't found any.
they dont say that at all, why the heck are you people so dang dumb, do some research yourself, and reading hancock is not research, he is a journalist and as admitted in an interview , there is not any proof of an atlantean civilisation sofar.
They don't think it's accidental. But the bigger question is, how the f do you find that out and how to you implement that into your building?
And how do you build all that without the invention of the wheel and no tow animals?
@@ralfrudiger7276 Simple: I bet they DID have wheels and tow animals but that knowledge was lost during the cataclysm of the Younger Dryas
Im black but my grandma is indigenous Mexican from Oaxaca I’ve always wanted to go to southern Mexico and see the Pyramids and the Olmec heads. It’s crazy that all this history is suppressed and lost to us
Blacks aren’t indigenous to Mexico. Sorry
@@GardaOrban not to mention. The Olmec culture has nothing to do with his people.
@@YellowCapeInvincibleThe original people of Mexico were black. Cry about it
@@GardaOrban lmao we don’t even know what language they spoke or what they called themselves. There’s a lot that we don’t know wether I’m lazy or not is irrelevant
@@YellowCapeInvincible no one alive today has anything to do with the Olmec culture. Im not allowed to be interested in them because im not an Olmec? What kind of logic is that
Indonesia is another place where you see an amazing variety of ethnic types. It's crazy how different Indonesians can look from each other.
Indonesia is famous for having diversity. The Native Americans did not.
“They” came before Columbus.
That book has no evidence and Olmec DNA has been found to be 100% Native American like millions of people who live in Mexico today.
I worked with a guy from Guatemala and he had the Olmec facial features.
Yeah the definitely have a look about them
That look is common in Africans
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@@natureboy5990 no
@@YellowCapeInvincible cry about it it's written in stone and it will not go anywhere
OK so if you saw a person who looked Olmec recently, It stands to reason that you may, being that Olmecs populated the area in the past, and left their seed in the population, lasting even today.
Mexico today is home to millions of indigenous people who have been living there for thousands of years. Those facial features are common in Mexico and many other countries south of the border.
DUH......dass wha he was ssayinnggg.
@@alexortiz7446 yep, I was agreeing with him.
That's a hell of a stretch not knowing that person's lineage.
You know now That I think of it . Those Olmec heads kinda remind me of the Hawaii tiki statues . Or maybe im just thirsty for some tiki punch
Nearly every ancient culture has a story of a wise person coming from the sea and teaching them advanced knowledge. The fact that modern science still argues whether it happened or not is mind boggling.
They don't want it to be true. They prefer to brainwash kids saying we invented everything ourselves and we are the superior race.
It happened ?
Not only did it happen, it's happening right now !!
The 7 Sages, a story found in ancient India, ancient Greece, ancient Mesopotamia, ancient China, and in certain ancient Meso-American Cultures.
These Cultures are separated by land, seas, and time, there is no way all of them just coincidentally had the same stories.
Yes Enlil
Africans didn’t even make it to Cape Verde by the 15th century. There is no way they came to Meso america 2000+ years before the Europeans.
Really enjoyed this Luke. Olmecs are fascinating. I asked you about this on our podcast too but it would be super interesting to explore the possibility that they are much older than we currently think. It’s weird that the earliest stuff is the best stuff, they appeared out of no where, all the heads were buried, and the mystery and lack of data surrounding their civilization in general. This is a huge topic that’s been largely unexplored so I’m excited it’s your first book and look forward to reading it! Keep up the great work
Their first 'cities' were on the west coast... They came from the Pacific IMO.
I get that “native Americans” have a lot of phenotypes but why wouldn’t they depict each phenotype in each head each head is the same phenotype
Certain phenotypes tend to be regionally common-thus the Olmec had a specific phenotype amongst themselves
We don't know why the heads were built in the first place, so asking why they didn't depict the different phenotype in each head is a moot point in my opinion. We should not look at the heads and infer that all the Olmec looked like this. There are hundreds of other artifacts that depict Olmec phenotype such as: Seated Bench Figure holding a baby "El Senor de Las Lima's," Hunchback figure, Ballplayer, Baby figure, Jaded Mask, Baby Face, The Prince, The Wrestler, Tuxtla Statuette.....etc
People tend to look at the colossal heads and infer that these must not be "Native American," because they don't have the "standard" Native American phenotype.
The question to ask is who are these native Americans you are talking about.@@franklopez8
The heads don't all look the same
so are we just going to act like more than one olmec heads with afros haven't been discovered ?
Hancock never holds an idea. His talent is in considering any and all possibilities. That's what makes him a fun watch. "What if?"
he is a clever journalist , making a lot of money that way, cannot be trusted.
Yup U seem to love Bulsht THEORY
@@marcossealey8612 all theory is fundamentally bs until proven, what’s your point ? 🤦🏽♂️
@@dndmfs FACTS OVER THEORY 👍
@@marcossealey8612 What facts 🤨 All mainstream do is to say 'we know the science.' And spout a lot of unsubstantiated trite, using big words, that could be interpreted in more than one fashion. Because they _don't know._
At least Hancock has an open mind. Unlike your apparent friends in close-minded industries.
I haven't read anything detailed about the Olmec, but recently on the Earth Ancient podcast, Edwin Barnhart, an Olmec expert, explained that "they came out of nowhere" is a popular misconception. We observe progress in art and architecture.
Progressed in art and agriculture with a base of what? They are the first civilization in the Americas so what could it have developed from?
@chiccngeorge3058 . I would take pause before banking your beliefs on the Olmec being the first North Americans.
There is likely another 150k years of evidence that is forever lost to geological actions.
We don't know who the first North Americans were.
We don't KNOW much of anything about history, and for good reason.
History, and humanity, is constantly being reset.
@@chiccngeorge3058 Being first doesn't prevent of visible line of progression in use technology, what are you trying to say? Check source I was cited.
@@chiccngeorge3058 easily form hunter gatherers like elsewhere, influences form outside maybe possible.
There are Peruvian legions that Spanish missionaries recorded that emerge at the same time the Olmecs appear. They didn't come from nowhere. They came from the East by sea.
What you said about the artstyle being fully developed is to me, as someone who has worked in art and design for many years, one of the most mysterious aspects about all of these lost ancient cultures.
Who originally designed the typical egyptian art style, for example? Who decided that this is the only art style thats going to be used over thousands of years? What art style(s) have they used before they came up with the final style?
Today we have countless different styles of art, everybody draws uniquely different. Why would they only use this one art style? Were other styles forbidden? Was creativity itself forbidden because only this one style was allowed?
I'd guess a large reason for the uniformity is that these cultures used art as a language.
While we today still do have many symbols that reference certain (or many) things, our written language is so far removed from any reference of our reality, it's tough for us to overlay the two (art and language) into a single piece, where those cultures could as naturally as breathing. Or, reading.
The modern sense of art as this personal kind of superficial hyper-individualistic expression was not shared by the ancients. Art wasn't just a single guy vomiting his feelings up for the whole world to see. For the ancients, art was something far greater and deeper; art was a dedication to the universe and to the gods, a vehicle for the transcendent to enter into material reality, a window for eternity to shine through into time. In accordance with that ethos, a shared language of symbols evolved enabling people to effectively communicate information about that higher transcendent reality, because naturally, the transcendent tends to defy human expression: the shared artistic resources characterizing the homogenous style of a peoples was just the result of people needing to draw from a shared wellspring of symbols, without which experience of the divine and transcendent eluded stable understanding and concrete formulation. But from within that culture, the art did not appear homogenous at all- it only looks "all the same" to you because you do not have the knowledge necessary for decoding their symbols, so you cannot actually pick out the details and differences between one piece of art and another, it all just blurs together indistinguishably.
This is a great observation and comment, the only time Egypt did depart from the grid style, no artistic license style of art was under Ankhenaten. He seemed to have introduced creative freedom into the culture, allowing experimentation and imagination to flourish for his short reign.
Check Jason Breshear's (Archaix's) theory on the nature of reality and how it explains human history.
It explains how certain civilizations seemingly popped up in history out of nowhere, with their culture and
traditions fully formed, with no historical precursors that explain how they came to be.
Graham Hancock has some pretty cool hypotheses with ample preliminary evidence. We have to be careful when dismissing explanations and not dismiss the evidence that challenges existing explanations. Thanks so much for the intro to Olmecs
no, handcock does not have evidence for his hypotheses.
@@eeeatenhancock is awesome.
@@Userhfdryjjgddf he's a laughing stock among scientists. do you always get your information from journalists instead of experts?
@@eeeaten their research is probably watching joe rogan. Graham says the things that people want to believe, so they get hooked. Then he'll say something about mainstream archaeology hides things and attacks him. He plays on people's intrigue into the mysterious and unknown, then gets you to distrust the experts. That's all he needs to do for the scam to work. His ideas are ridiculously silly though
@@Userhfdryjjgddfhe just plays on people's intrigue of the unknown then makes them think that the "mainstream" experts (which just means anyone with a real qualification in the relevant field of science) can't be trusted. That's how it works. He has books and netflix specials to sell. You can't do that without convincing some people to dismiss the real scientific research
Ive visited different regions of Mexico , there is definitely people who still have that ancient look to them like the Olmecs.
I have a photograph of my 100% Mexican father in law, standing next to an Olmec head. The resemblance is uncanny.
Garbage if he resemble Olmec head, he is the decendance of Olmec people who were African, MOTE, popular Mexican American comedian George Lopez dona DNA test and to his surprised that he have almost 20 % African DNA ,the people you are Mexican 100% is true but Mexican of African ancestory
I didn't know the olmec was Spanish!😅😅😅
@@wwkd7921 People who speak Spanish claim to be everything,the Olmec was there before there was a weird Name Spanish .
@@wwkd7921mexico is a mestizo country and depending on the individual some have higher indigenous dna while others have more spanish so her comment is valid
@@DwrankoheartMexico is a mestizo country who still has a large indigenous population, Mexico has more natives than the US and Canada combined. Mexicans arent spaniards
To everybody claiming Olmec, if you’re family tree doesn’t come from Tabasco Mexico you are NOT Olmec, probaly of Aztec decency but not Olmec
The Road to El Dorado is the only time I've seen an Olmec head in a movie
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While I agree that there is a wide phenotypic range for Native Americans, why does such an assertion only seem to make plausible sense when discussing the phenotypes of the venerated head of an ancient Olmec? A head that is clearly more emblematic of people we’d loosely describe today as “African.” And why, when we discuss Native American history, we do not show images of this phenotype diversity except when it includes more Euro-mixed Native Americans?
There seems to be a coordinated strike pattern from communities of Geologists and Anthropologists alike against any ancient artifacts that perhaps could be attributed to people resembling Blsck Africans or those phenotypically associated with them. Be it Olmecs or the Sphinx of Giza, with a prognathism only attributed to people we’d call, today, Sub-Saharan. But because the Western stories about them, over the past several centuries, are that they were an unremarkable, less-evolved, sub-species (ergo, SUB-Saharan) of humans with no meaningful contributions towards advanced civilizations… we still hold onto those old Wives-tales.
Could it be that people we loosely attribute to being “African” today were in fact ALL over the world centuries and millennia ago? And rather than recognize this, we’re quick to find ways to distance them from any possible African origin?
Keep it simple. You're saying it's a little racist to say that the Olmecs couldn't have been African. Then you make a bunch of huge leaps of logic that seem to follow from your premise.
@@nolimitstrength I'm saying the micro conversation of the Olmecs is emblematic of a broader macro narrative, propagated by such communities as Historians, Geologists, Archeologists, and Egyptologists, that seeks to delineate any Afro/African people from any noteworthy civilizations or artifact veneration.
@@ian_ford The MTDNA taken from ancient Olmec shows they were NATIVE AMERICANS IN ORIGIN.
@@ian_fordThey were also Natives that appeared whyte. Probably the most famous quote about the Cloud People comes from the Spnish Pedro Cieza de Leon, he wrote that the Chachapoya were ““the whytest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas’ wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple.” Orellana, another Spnish wrote a similar description, and also stated that the Cloud People were much taller than the Spniards, and had extremely light skin and blonde hair, pointing to the fact that they were of “Eropean” ancestry not “Mediterranean.” These facts continue to puzzle modern day scientists, as there is no evidence of previous Eropean genes being present in this area of the world before the Cloud People.
@ian_ford I guess it depends who you read and listen to.
The handbag is a simple seed bag. It represents the development of agriculture which allows for the division of labor and the rise of human civilization. When you no longer have to worry about how your going to not only feed yourself but significant numbers of people on a daily basis then you allow for the human mind to start exploring outside of basic day to day survival.
You can't be a legitimate scientist and have Mr. Hancock on your podcast as he's the greatest threat to civilization known to man. I'm kidding, bravo.
You had me in the first half, lol. I thought Dibble was commenting.
Uhh known to woman too, sexist pig
Idk how to explain what I was starting feel...then relief 🤣👍🏾
You had me in the first half not
Gonna lie
Dude! I was about to pounce!! 😅
I have a theory about the "handbags". They're not handbags at all, but keys. If you look at many of the structures in all of these ancient civilizations, you will also find what are "false doors", or what look like doors carved into the rocks and structures with a rectangle shape carved into the false door that looks like a keyhole. My theory is that these false doors are actually gateways into portals that can transport these people to and from wherever they may come from in space or time, and these so-called handbags would fit into these "keyholes" that would transport them to and from different dimensions. These false doors are also found throughout Egypt, Mesopotamia, Central, South and North America. So like the "handbag" the false doors are also found in all ancient civilizations.
Good observation. They call them bags but say they hold the wisdom. Which could be the key to the other worlds
Good one i like your theory
Interesting.
That’s interesting and all, but is also quite a huge, and frankly unscientific, leap. That’s precisely why academically-minded people dislike “fringe” academics, because it leads to rampant and wild speculation like this.
In the movie Boy Kills The World, the main character is training and uses an olmac head to roll up and down a hill. When I saw it I thought of this channel
And THEY say that it was all done with hand tools 😂. Ask ANY stone mason today if they could do this with current hand tools and they would all say, NFW
Carved with sound waves with various levels of intensity...
@@Bikernewscanada Iron tools. They either traded for it or found a meteorite.
I so agree.
My hypothesis. People, master sailors came to south america, taught south americans sailing, astronomy (because SAILORS need it the most, so THEY had to be the masters of it) and those stone builders taught the sea people their skills in stone crafting.
Then these sea people kept on going and sailed to europe and taught them stoneworking they learned from south america, and learned simple farming from them, and taught them astronomy in return.
And they kept going and taught things they had learned from other cultures and spread the knowledge on and on.
and kept getting wiser in the process, and they came back to their homeland wiser.
probably did this circle many times, spreading new knowledge as people get better.
there's no evidence to support your hypothesis. it's just a fantasy.
@eeeaten so theory of relativityvwas fantasy before it was proven?
Don't you know in science it's called a "hypothesis" and not a fantasy?
Now, you learn3d a new word today!
@eeeaten do people in academia keep saying " your hypothesis has no evidence"?
Because the answer would ALWAYS BE "yeah, that's why it's called a hypothesis!" Dah!
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin.
Clearly George had seen how people comment things on Internet
@@bujinkanatori you could just look this stuff up so you don't look dumb. a hypothesis is a suggested explanation, a theory is the best explanation that matches the evidence. anyone can dream up a hypothesis to explain something, but it's just a fantasy story until it's been tested with the evidence.
People are mistaking polynesian features with African features, Infact they look more Samoan mixed with Indigenous rather than African. It wont take long to head down south and traverse the jungle and villages to find these features and brown skin. Heck even my Aunt is often mistaken for Asian polynisian but is Mexican. Search up the people of oaxaca there descendants were the zapotec (they inhabited and existed around the same time the olmecs did 400BC) Climate changes, evolution and adaptations in facial anatomy/structures due to limited amounts of genetic disposition should be takin in to the fact and studied. For example noses have adapted to our environments over time, wider nostrils are correlated with populations whose ancestors evolved in warmer, more humid regions. (Africa, central America, south America) you get it. "People with narrower nostrils fared better and had more offspring than people with wider nostrils, in COLDER CLIMATES. This lead to a gradual decrease in nose width in populations living far away from the equator. "Given that a significant portion of breathing also happens through the mouth (especially when exposed to heat), lips are pretty much like the gateway for colder air being inhaled and exhaled. So, the larger the lips, the more heat that can be disseminated. Thus, people living in hotter climatic conditions gradually evolved to have bigger lip. The opposite is true for people in colder climates, They get a survival advantage. The olmecs and the Native people of America were still evolving in genetics as compared to the Old World when the Spanish arrived.
The descendants are still alive.
Most of us from Veracruz region resemble the Olmec heads.
That’s cause Eropeans are still a small group in Mx but the “Mxican” media, novela media being pushed would like to paint otherwise.
@@Egr-et6ar exactly. If you go to the small unknown towns in Mexico you’ll see a lot the media doesn’t show you lol
@@Thehabanero_ Gasper Yanga
@@kingdeecash0074 Gaspers history is well documented.. he was a slave transported there and helped freed other slaves.
@@Thehabanero_ were was he a slave from? Lol I thought he was a Prince? Wasn't he from San Lorenzo, Veracruz where the Olmec were once at? Are the Most indigenous people in Oaxaca? Your acting like La Malinche, cause she hated the dark skin Montezuma and bowed to the white Spanish lol
Maybe not in movies, but don't forget about Legends of the Hidden Temple, the old Nickelodeon show.
Yep, that's what my mind thinks of when I see the Olmec head
Fkn shrine of the bastard ass silver monkey smh.. ruined many a contestants day. Also temple guards …😂
Bro iswear if these statues were presented without knowing where they were found you will say african ...iknow its hard pill 💊 ...
They struggling with admitting the fact that Egyptians were black now Olmecs very tough pill to swallow indeed
@@natureboy5990 say that again
Olmec DNA exists and you're not it.
DNA testing on ancient Olmec remains in 2018 revealed that the Olmecs were not related to African populations, but instead shared genetic markers with indigenous populations of Mexico and Central America. This disproved the theory of some historians that the Olmecs originated in Africa, based on supposed similarities between African and Olmec art and the facial features of some carved heads. Instead, the DNA study found the presence of mutations in the "A" maternal lineage, one of the five mitochondrial haplogroups most common in indigenous populations of the Americas. This suggests that the Olmecs originated in America, like other native Americans, who may have descended from Asian ancestors who entered North America during the Great Ice Age.
@@StrangeforceSADNA testing on ancient Olmec remains in 2018 revealed that the Olmecs were not related to African populations, but instead shared genetic markers with indigenous populations of Mexico and Central America. This disproved the theory of some historians that the Olmecs originated in Africa, based on supposed similarities between African and Olmec art and the facial features of some carved heads. Instead, the DNA study found the presence of mutations in the "A" maternal lineage, one of the five mitochondrial haplogroups most common in indigenous populations of the Americas. This suggests that the Olmecs originated in America, like other native Americans, who may have descended from Asian ancestors who entered North America during the Great Ice Age.
They also have a OLMECS head which have locks going down the back of it.
That’s not true at all
@@YellowCapeInvincible I have a receding hairline so not qualified to speak on hair 😂 but braids/locks yes they do. Google is your friend.
@@dndmfs the Olmecs depicted themselves with straight hair. They didn’t make any artifacts with braids.
@@dndmfs only 17 Olmec heads have been discovered. None of them have hair. Only one Olmec head has that feature that many people claim is braids. They are actually Quetzal feathers.
@@dndmfs the facial features on the Olmec heads are extremely common in Mexican people. The Olmec heads lack prognathism which is a “negroid trait”. DNA tests have been done on human skeletons found in Olmec territory. Proving to be the same people are modern day indigenous Mexicans. Haplogroup A,B,C,D and X.
Not black or African at all. Google is your friend as you said.
Referring to the hand bag and serpent image. I think a lot of times we project our modern technology onto ancient people. We like to assume it’s an image of a person riding in a vehicle, because that’s the sitting position when riding in a plane, a car, etc. I think we can all agree they didn’t have cars or planes so I would assume they didn’t even have a concept of that. It seems to me more like it would represent the image of a child sitting in someone’s lap. Almost representing someone sitting in the lap of a wise leader or a God and passing down the knowledge within the hand bag. At least that’s what I see.
Great comment. I really like this perspective. It’s almost impossible for us to imagine how exactly they would have interpreted these works
Yea and comparing to other cultures in far away places is a major reach. It's actually ridiculous to suggest they have anything to do with each other.
@@LuisRamirez-vv4dk nothing ridiculous about it. Our arrogance in assuming these people couldn’t have been in contact or hadn’t devised the means of transportation over vast distances despite such glaring similarities in their cultures is profoundly obtuse .
@@dndmfs There is no glaring similarities. You are the one being obtuse here. It is totally ridiculous. The burden of proof i on you idiots and you're not doing a good job.
Without watching a second of this or hearing Grahams ideas I can answer the title of this video...
No.
Why are people so afraid to say the Olmec and native American people are black?
Because the story is, Black people never accomplish anything, while there are evidence everywhere on the planet that they did,
There's African/Oceania/Australian DNA all over south and central America, and they have more than one Skull with Negroid features in Brazilian dating back to about 12,000 years ago, some entity tried to burn that museum down, where they're stored those skulls and other items the point to a Black presence few years ago too, someone wanted that evidence gone.
So this guy say he's writing a book on the Olmec(s) but will it all be truthful information? after watching this video more likely not.
"black" is not a meaningful grouping of people. people in many different cultures were/are dark skinned.
Cause they ain't
Because they're not 😂
@ oh yes they are
.....ANOTHER thing: although MANY native Asians are apparently WELL aware of it, Austronesian / Negroid lines have been there MUCH longer than the more familiar 'Mongoloid' ones - a STRONG case case could actually be made for mankind having first emerged from the Pacific (RATHER than southern Africa, where they may have MIGRATED to from Australia - or even 'Lemuria'; another now-submerged continent of which IT, Tasmania & New Zealand could have been a PART.....)
Oldest bones in the Americas are of 100% Native origin. Even the Eurocentric hypothesis (Solutrean) also came out as 100% in Native origin.
@@Egr-et6ar : WRONG - there are still MANY skeletons around Central & South, NORTH America NOT yet forensically examined which will UNQUESTIONABLY display Near Eastern, European genetic heritage - with SO much cultural evidence available, ABSURD to believe otherwise.....
@@Egr-et6ar Native?
I know a Phillipino guy who bears a striking appearance to the statue.
Yes.. Mostly in Southern Mexico & Central America, there are still many indigenous people that look very much like those Olmec heads. With the same facial features, they have - somewhat - pudgy bodies & straight hair - unless with braids - .. Their DNA analysis have shown ancient East Asian origins & zero ancient African DNA.
The absence of any D.N.A. or skeletal remains for the Olmecs does not reveal a Time of occupation. Some Heads were uncovered from underneath 25 feet of Sedimentary dust. This puts them in the 100,000 year old strata.
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Two Olmec Ancient Graves were excavated and the DNA came back Haplogroup A, Native American,......the Smithsonian has an article on that,.......
@@tboned70I bet they do.
@@tboned70 the most unreliable study ever done.
@@bobwilson7684 its jus more proof,......wat do you prefer to your liking,.....?
Also have to take into deep consideration the amount of Europeans in Spanish bloodline stats came down and mixed with these populations change the time of the Olmac and Toltec
Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible.
Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM. Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
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The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
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What's funny about this whole thing is the first Spanish to come were pretty much forced to come and colonize and it was mainly those that were persecuted by the Spanish Inquisition and the Holy Latin Roman Inquisition for that matter. It was a dirty tough business for nobles so like the first ones to colonize or explore here many had African ancestry from the Moors, and Ladinos. The Pueblo people said they were but the probably wouldn't have all looked quote on quote "Black".
www.nps.gov/ethnography/aah/AAheritage/SpanishAmB.htm
Demko just gets it! Give the people what they want and offer it in different versions and price points so everyone can get in on the fun. You can tell when someone is passionate about what they do. I'm stoked to get my hands on these.
Great job again. Looking forward to you presentation in two weeks.
They Certainly look like a black phenotype to me.. Also it has a Olmec stone head without the helmet and it has an afro with a black phenotype..
They only look like that to you because you want to believe the lie that they are African.
If you go to Mexico you will see millions of people who look identical to those heads.
You can’t remove the helmet of a giant stone Boulder. There is no Afro on the heads or any visible hair carved on them. The only Olmec artifacts with hair depict people with straight hair.
The prognathism of Africans is contradictory to the Olmec heads.
@YellowCapeInvincible - lol, you seem overly invested in denying what our "lying eyes" see. Cheddar Man in England and indigenous Australians are just more evidence of original 100% humans = no Neanderthug DNA 👹
Luke - you did a fine job intuitively covering many of the questions I had about the Olmecs and it was useful listening to Graham Hancock add his dimension and perspective.
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Even the people who work at the museum where these statues are, say they think they are of African descent...plus they are wearing braids..under those helmets their hair is braided..ive never, ever, ever seen a messican in braids..
Exactly right and since they have on helmets they were most likely warriors.
There is no hair carved on any of the heads.
The only Olmec artifacts that depict hair depict people with naturally straight hair
Go down to Mexico and you will see millions of people who have faces identical to those heads.
It’s mind boggling how ignorant people are
Definitely got some Elizabeth Warren vibes from you when ya were describing your facial features. Lol. I joke. See ya at CS24!!! Hail the 199!! Let's gooooo!!!!
Hahahaha, I have something around 4-6% Yucatec in me from my mom’s side. If you look at Stucco images of Maya people, I have some similarities in my nose/cheekbones & chin.
And yes! See you soon!
@@lukecaverns Awesome! I have some questions specifically(fairly long form) for ya. This year is going to be great.
Go to Ecuador Guatemala and Mexico and North American and they all look like.........NATIVE AMERICANS.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s really asinine that so many people disrespect the Olmecs and their descendants today. The indigenous people of Mexico by claiming they were Africans, Polynesians or anything others than American Indian.
Remember modern day Mexicans are a mix of multiple races due to colonization so they are more similar to each other than the Olmecs.
@@natureboy5990 there are still millions of indigenous people living in Mexico and almost every other country who never mixed Spaniards. The idea that all people living in Mexico are mixed native with Spanish is completely untrue.
@@YellowCapeInvincible where are they.?
@@natureboy5990 in Mexico. Where else ? 🙄
@@YellowCapeInvincible there's black people in Mexican too.
It’s a big claim at 12:41 lol
Multiple civilisations have no interaction with each other,
But all depicted a man in stone with a bag and bringing civilisation.
Not hard at all, very simple lol
He knows the answer but will be ridicule by his peers for saying it.
Ivan Van Sertima wrote about the Olmec. They were Africans who came to the Americas to trade with the indigenous people here. Thats why the head dress look like west African headdresses and their noses look African. “They Came Before Columbus” - Ivan Van Sertima.
Van sertima is a known kook.
There is a statue of an Olmec baby who also has that helmet on.
I met a Native American from Maine who told me that his people were trading with African travelers thousands of years ago, and that these African traveled up and down the Americas as skilled sailors, artisans, and spiritualists.
nah. no evidence!
Yes that is correct. They have found artifacts from Africa in South America. According to European journals they documented seeing black people in the America's prior to the slave trade. Also many fail to credit the travels of the Oceania tribes to the America's as well.
@@IndigoChyld no they haven't. also polynesians did not reach the americas until within the last 1000 years.
@@eeeaten yes they have. You just need to do your research. The Smithsonians all ready proved it and it would be easier for the Polynesians to make it to the Americas than the Mongolians. You can't possibly believe 2 continents was completely empty and the Natives didn't see nobody. We need to study what made them leave Mongolia.
@@IndigoChyld when do you think polynesians reached america? there were no polynesians until within the last 3000 years.
Those Olmec heads look like Joe Rogan
It's my understanding thar the heads like the massive stone balls that are also found in the area are impossible to date. The dates are derived from the organic material and depth of soil around the heads. These have nothing to do with the dates the carvings were made only when they were abandoned to the jungle
Can't wait to see you across from Joe. We all know that it's just a matter of time 😄
You're a reasonable guy and I appreciate that. I too believe the natives likely built the things we see in the Americas, HOWEVER, there's a few tribes in the US who - to this day - share stories about how they found, not built, many structures. Indiana has a few of those structures I'm referring to but I can't think of the name of the local tribe there at the moment
Stoked for the Olmec book.
Luke There is a book by a Mayan Day keeper Humbutz Men, called The 8 calendrers of the Maya. In that book they tell of the Maya from central America went to Africa, Asia and Europe 12,500 bc. went they went home they brought back DNA mixed with African, Asia and European Blood. I'm Mexican I have Europe, Asian and African DNA. GO FIGURE!!!
You could problem fine this book at the library.
This books is filled with facts about the Pyramids and so much more, you need to see it for yourself.
fake facts yes
How do brown little people went to travelled a big ship were maded NEVER EXISTED.
To see different people from åfröcentrist to eurocentrist to even Chinese making theories to claim the people had influences on Olmecs/and or were the Olmec people - shows really how great the people were/are.
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All the arguments just to exclude African phenotypes?? Why? But they could be 90% sure that they are extra terrestrial with their future
Yes the anti-blackness is ridiculous.
@@marleyboy4455 they're not african. check out African Origins of Olmec Civilization - Debunked
@@marleyboy4455 the untrue narrative of Olmecs being black is anti-native racism. You guys don’t see the irony.
@@marleyboy4455 the untrue narrative of Olmecs being black is anti native racism. You guys don’t see the irony.
Because Olmecs were NOT black you clowns
There are people living in the same area today that look exactly like those heads. They claim to be descendants of the Olmec, Toltec, and the Maya. I don't doubt them a bit. But I don't put any belief in much of what Hancock says.
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@@stevesanders1905 those groups were wiped out when the Spanish conquistador arrived right? So how could anyone be descendants today. Are you related to Benjamin Franklin 😂
@@YellowCapeInvincible Gasper Yanga 🤣
@@kingdeecash0074 It's because they didn't kill all the people. I would think that was common knowledge. You haven't done any research on this have you ?
@@stevesanders1905 lmao 🤣 you have absolutely no clue to what your speaking on my pale face friend lol Im from this land aboriginal do understand the meaning? I usually don't argue with cave dwellers 😂 but I'll teach you like the Moors taught the Wildmen "Allegory of the Continents" 16 17th century Renaissance art , tell me who's shown representing the America's?
They came before Columbus by Ivan Van Sertima
Van sertima = obvious kook. Is there any irrational nonsense you don’t believe?
The simplest explanation [Ockham's razor] is that Africans came from Egypt to west Africa to central America. When they came to central America they has an already formed culture. Sure enough the cosmology of some west African tribes and their dating system is the same as the Olmecs. That guy you met at the museum was a descendant if the Olmecs obviously.
You call that Ockhams razor?
Mexico today is still home to millions of indigenous people who look identical to the Olmec heads. The facial features you see on their artwork is extremely common in Mexican people. The Olmec civilization has absolutely nothing to do with Africans.
There has never been skeletons of Africans found in Olmec territory. Human remains found in Olmec territory have been proven to be 100% Native American. Haplogroup A,B,C,D and X.
Mexico today is home to over 60 Native American communities. The Nahua people of are the direct descendants of the Aztecs. They are the people who gave the Olmecs their name. Olmecatl means “rubber people” in Nahuatl. The Aztec language. The Mixe Zoque are the direct descendants of the Olmecs.
An equally simple explanation is that Mesoamerica is the origin of African people.
@@ARvsAK that’s 100% false and makes no sense LMAO 😂
Old world diseases would've wiped out the native american population 😂😂😂 small pox doesn't ring a bell??? That originated in Africa among numerous other diseases and viruses smh
You’re completely right that not everyone that originated in the Americas looks the same for example, my father is a Otomi descent. He has a round face fat nose. Big lips and a dark complexion, and if he were to let his hair grow out, it would be almost thick straight My point is he doesn’t look like he’s of any African descent. He has those attributes, but you could tell the difference.
They have straight hair blacks in Africa and around the world.
Mali Empire: Black People
If you guys have any other TH-cam videos/podcast clips you'd like me to break down/react to: leave a link in this thread! Also, new Olmec lecture-video coming next week + a huge Olmec announcement. Let the year of the Olmecs begin...
I do.
Would you mind break down this video from BAM? (Shout out to dubber @funnyoldeworld Jahannah James.)
I find that those caves in Barabar and Nagarjuni have similar qualities in finishing and accuracy with the Serapeum from Egypt. I'm pro data and objective thinking a la @DeDunking, and it'd be cool if you cover it, since you are far more educated and well connected than me.
Thanks in advance, Luke.
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I was asking if you could do a breakdown for a video below from B.A.M.
I find the Barabar-Nagarjuni caves and the Serapeum from Egypt share the similar quality, finishing, and accuracy.
Since you're far more educated in this subject, I'd be grateful if you could cover it in the future.
Thanks in advance, Luke. Wish you all the best!
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I was asking if you could do a breakdown for a video from B.A.M.
I find the Barabar-Nagarjuni caves and the Serapeum from Egypt share the similar quality, finishing, and accuracy.
Since you're far more educated in this subject, I'd be grateful if you could cover it in the future.
Thanks in advance, Luke. Wish you all the best!
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It called having African ancestors
vague af. everyone has african ancestors if you go back far enough.
It's fascinating, because you describe your appearance as Maya but for me, a person from Europe you look at from the Caucasus or the Middle East or possibly someone of Jewish nationality. It's amazing how physical features are distributed on the planet, because theoretically at that time these cultures had no contacts.
The Olmec and the Maya existed at the same time
did they fight each other is the question
The Inca too & their empire lasted til conquest
@@alexortiz7446 no, the maya came 1000 years after the Olmecs. They did not exist at the same time.
@@alexortiz7446 the direct descendants of the Olmecs today are the Mixe Zoque people of Mexico.
@@alexortiz7446so what they were natural way fight each other alike brothers and sisters used with arrow and bow without a poison toxically weapon old world health care issues an cancer ect but not here back to the futured zero
The "handbag" symbol at Golbeki Tepe appears to be a symbol for sunrise, an equinox symbol. The guy holding one might be "the man who knows the calendar".
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I wonder if they represent sport stars . You lose you die but if you win , you get a head made of you.
*Those Olmecs heads look like they have African features, but that seems to be the problem, Africans in the America's first is always going to be a problem for a certain group of people so they need to now look like Polynesians. The story of Mana Musa brother coming to New World and never returning back to Africa is one that doesn't get any consideration by Westerners because they can't fathom Africans as explorers of the world or Africans as anything at all. Go visit Mali, they will tell you a tale of who landed in the Americas 100 years before Europeans. Africans Have Their Own History That They Have Passed Among Themselves For Generations.*
They'd rather be Aliens before they agree with them being African but the further they dig the darker it gets
@@natureboy5990Africans have nothing to do with Olmecs.
@@YellowCapeInvincible How do you know that definitively?
@@corybrown416 genuine unbiased scientific evidence
@@YellowCapeInvincibleNothing you’ve said is either unbiased or science based!
Hancock has to be the most quoted and least proven person in archeology.
Luke i hope one day maybe you could get graham on the show and talk about these things? Very interesting, i get people views on graham but its people like him who have got me into all this. Another great video 👍
Another interesting question connected to the age of civilization in the Americas: who built all the earthwork mounds?
They don’t like to talk about it lol
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To be fair, it is a bit of a rough and obscure topic.
So many of the mounds have been worn down, the evidence so fleeting, and most of the research is over a century old..
Although, what evidence we do have is so incredible.. Definitely a rabbit hole worth exploring for anyone else reading this who hasn't yet.
@@dudeguy8686giants built them
@@dankmansalley417 I'm not against the idea, it'd help explain much of the scale we see, with many of those ancient sites.
Giant people, or giant-scale technology, both are equally impressive, imo
@@dudeguy8686 watch mr.mythos giants in old America
Loved this format. I just watched Flint Dibble on the Gnostic Informant channel. That would be a good one to comment on.
Legends of the Hidden Temple had a talking Olmec head. Probably the coolest part of that old kids game show lol.
The Olmecs were people of African descent who came to the Americas from Western Africa on long boats. Just, look at the Lips, Noses, and Hairstyles on the human heads. The Africans were in the Americas Thousands of Years before the Europeans.
Read the comments ~▪︎Afro-Centrics
The Olmecas facial features are common among modern-day Mexicans ~ people are still alive with these Mexican- Indigenous features ~ with NO ~West Coas t Sub-Saharan-Africans blood-lines 😂🎉! Read the comments 😮
Lol west africans couldnt even build a seafaring ship to get out the bay😂😂😂 negrocentrics are the definition of uneducated
@@colinchampollion4420the reason they have those features is caused they are mixed. Mexican isn't a race.
The Original people were on every part of the Earth, while those known today as Europeans were mostly in the area of the Caucasus. You know that line... thus the term "Indo-European."
Could we piece this together with genetics, specifically YDNA. As far as i know there only two major YDNA haplogroups in the Americas... Q and C. Which are quite far apart on the phylogenetic tree, C is closer to African haplogroups and Q is close to lighter people. I wonder who was there first, if at all maybe they came together but as there are varied features maybe it could be explained by this.
Haplogroup A is Native American and that is wat as found,.....
@@tboned70 First time i've heard that.. Do you have a source for this information?
@@tboned70 Haplogroup A is found in alot of Africans, South Africans to be specific.
My brother in law is from Veracruz where these heads are from. he and his brother look identical to these heads. they have recently taken DNA tests for one of my nieces school projects on family tree timelines. Results came back all Native American ancestry. Nothing else.
Im sorry people, but you will never find African haplogroup DNA in any indigenous people with no recent interracial marriages still living in Mexico, Guatemala etc. This is the only way to settle this argument. Sorry again, but the olmec belong to the meso american people.
Link to recent geneticist research
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Great video luke, I love Graham. Still curious to know what you think about magnetic poles being Incorporated in the Olmec potbelly statues 🧐
Olmecs look like kang from quantamania antman and wasp same facial and headgear
They look like native Mexicans and Central Americans more. Kang I believe is a imitation of the heads.
@YellowCapeInvincible I agree with you 💯.bro movies be telling us truths that .. they play them as fantasy or in our kids' stories. were too naive to see
To see different people from åfröcentrist to eurocentrist to even Chinese making theories to claim the people had influences on Olmecs/and or were the Olmec people - shows really how great the people were/are but some of the people still have self hate….
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@@YellowCapeInvincible they look a lot more black than they do native mexicans
but olmec head sculptures were already found with afros on them so those native mexicans you mention got those features from the ancient africans
BEST EXAMPLE IS THAT THE OLMEC HEADS WERE THE INSPIRATION FOR THE X-MEN ROBOT SENTINELS
To me the Olmecs based on the giant heads and some of their art, look black to me. Not polynesian or hispanic. the features are a clue.
Of course they are not Hispanic. They are not black either. They represent indigenous Americans. Mexico today is home to millions of indigenous people who never mixed with Spaniards. Mexico today is home to millions of people who look identical to those heads.
Black people have prognathism. A negroid trait that does not exist in Olmec art.
Features are not a clue but an indication of Environment,.......
This is something blk ppl seem to not understand. HISPANIC Mexicans and INDIGENOUS Mexicans are two different people. Hispanic means people from Spain. Most people who live in Mexico are not Hispanic. People of Spanish descent only make up about 20% of the population in Mexico. Most Mexicans today are indigenous people. Yes they speak Spanish but Mexico today is also home to over 360 languages that date back thousands of years.
The facial features you see on the Olmec heads are extremely common in indigenous Mexican people. Obviously people from Spain are not related to the Olmecs.
Thick lips and wide noses are not exclusive to black people. The prognathism of Africans is contradictory to the artwork of the Olmecs. The Olmecs also depicted themselves with straight hair and the bowl hair cut. Black people do not have Straight hair. You guys can’t have bowl cuts.
Black people will see a girl from Mexico who has darker skin than them and will still call her “spanish girl” 😂😂😂😂
They are African features. You are wrong..This why there are no megalithic statues with similar facial features in Meso-America other than the Olmec statues.
Genetics shows the olmecs were Native American. There were no Africans in the Americas until the 1500s.
They're braids in the back
Travel the world before posting garbage
Nonsense. "Looks like" is insufficient.
I've always been so curious about the Olmecs. Highly appreciated video!
Cmon. Handbags? It’s such a no brainer that you make a carrying bag to carry shit in without having to learn it from someone else.
The Olmecs are Afrikan Ancient Egyptians via west Afrika, around Ghana and Nigeria. They extracted rubber from the rubber tree Funtumia elastica, which is native to that region of west Afrika. They then transported the trees to South America, where they are now considered native trees. Olmec refers to their rubber processing abilities.
absolutely not. the first africans in the americas arrived in the 1500s. the rubber tree in the americas is Pará (Havea brasiliensis), native to the amazon. 99% of the world's rubber comes from Pará rubber trees. genetics shows ALL the oldest human remains in the americas are native american, not african.
Has any DNA ever been extracted from any ancient north or south American skeleton that shows African origin?
They developed everything everywhere except in subsaharan Africa, where they developed nothing.@@eeeaten
This would make sense i did a 23 and me and I have mesoamerican blood Nigerian and Ghanaian blood
@@eeeatenyou do know people from the Amazon have african blood too right?
My friend Jorge who is from Central America looks just like this statue.
This guy is a Gringo , saying he is Mayan- Man Stop it. Olmecs were Black
They were Native American
@ Black Native Americans exist you idi0t!
@ Black Native Americans exist you stain!
@@eeeaten Black Native Americans exist you stain
@@eeeaten Black Native Americans live in America!
Wouldn’t it make sense that these different native Americans began to change in phenotypes later as they became mixed with other populations like European and Asian and Polynesian? The base population would be the Olmecs which were clearly one phenotype as the depicted one phenotype. We have to stop thinking the world has always looked as it looks today im sorry to say it but everyone Europeans included all go back to native Kenyans so to think that they mutated THEN left Africa then started setting up civilizations elsewhere is inherently racist. let’s just call a spade a spade the Olmec were black Africans (as was the base population around the world). You trying to compare someone in Veracruz today after all the Spanish French Irish Italian Dutch and Chinese mixing is beyoooooond me lol. We are all one so I don’t see why it’s so hard to admit these things. Google cheddar man in Britain. You’ll find it’s a black man with blue eyes and curly hair no matter where you look the first people were black then mutated probably from environmental changes but to think they were Neanderthal types until they muted then began building civilization is the racist thought that keeps us locked in this cycle. I’m not saying black people built every civilization in the world I’m not afrocentric but in this specific context of who carved these heads and the people they represent let’s call a spade a f-ing spade
As you so clearly and accurately stated, we must stop envisioning the world of the past as looking like the world of the present.
Thus your assertion of historic black africans is equally guilty of such transference.
It's most likely that their was no Africa. At least not in the way that we know it today.
The truth is that our weakest quality, and this applies to every single one of us, is our inability to see humanity, and in extension life, as one.
I'm in you and you are in me and we would be wise to embrace the concept enthusiastically.
I'll guarantee that the opposition to a unified thinking will present their hate and condemnation with a robust level of virility.
You should do a talk with Graham Hancock, that would be good to watch!
Great episode!
It always amazes me that the people who are opposed to the Olmecs being of African origin and insist on them being Native Americans or Mexican how they forget that native Americans and Mexican know their history and say that they are Not Olmec and that they are a separate people. The Mayan people don’t claim to be Olmec hence the name Olmec as in “those people over there”.
Native Americans claim the olmecs. Because genetics shows the olmecs were Native American. There were no Africans in the Americas until the 1500s.
They were called the rubber people dna has been done on olmeca tomb and halgroup H which is native indigenous L would be African origins but no L markers found .
Ridiculous these people are Spanish Spaniards European from Spain not anything to do with olmecs this DNA guy here ridiculous not a lie because I don't know but ridiculous already been proven these thieves are like Egyptians ridiculous
@@losbrotherstires-wheels everyone in the world comes from Africa so what you're saying is kinda deceiving
@t-lawsfitness6044 no disrespect to my Africanos but that's being debunked with new findings
Olmec head paper weight in the bacc ground on the movie higher learning with ice cube
The Hair of the Gods : wooly hair and dark skin
Yeshua/ jesus ( wooly hair brass skin)
Buddha ( according to Japanese , curly hair dark skin )
India 🇮🇳 ( like ten gods with black skin )
Enki - summarian tablets ( he complained when he was sick his dread locks hurt to nimma )
Gilgamesh - wooly hair so black it was described blue/ black .
The list goes on with ancient gods. Africa jumpstarted everywhere with a pyramid under annunaki rule .
Genetics says no
@eeeaten China says east African, ask them 🤣😂
@@DemiGod-j9h wacky
@eeeaten one word responses I can tell this will be boring, I need someone who's studied the entire planets mythology, creation stories, religion, summarian tablets , annunaki , catalog every god on this planet , not only study magic but know the source of where it comes from , the power of numbers , shapes , words , planetary energies and what they do for us , sacred geometry and how magic applies , the bible of every faith dumped on hard once you realize Genesis thru the new testament is reused stories from , akkadian, hittite , babylonian, Persian, Egyptian, Greek, and Roman influence .. go watch a chicken sandwich review and stay out of my way until I get a real challenge to squash as well no one is close to me have a great day btw your life is a lie and so is your god . Lower case g for god
@eeeaten one word responses and no intellectual rebuttals? You know nothing apparently to even battle me in ancient anything. It's not my fault your ancestors lied to make you feel more important, and know everyone's waking up .
Adam pyramid in south africa is the oldest pyramid in the world going back to around 75000years old. Olmec are still kids in african excellence
that is not a pyramid, Please provide me a link to this 75thousand year old pyramid, if you have one, and if you don't then we know what that means.
I dont understand you how you think, you are already telling me its me its not a pyramid, you dont no what im talking about, you see you are the devil the bible speak of.[ devaluator], your 4father were angry abt a black excellence. South africa has solomon mine and 4get about any link. Please dont respond devil
@joearchuleta7538 you hurt wetbike?
This young guy sounds like he doesnt want them to be African. Comes off weird. So what if they were Africans. It would just be that.
they're not african. check out African Origins of Olmec Civilization - Debunked
Maybe the Olmecs were simply Black people?
Who says that Black people cant be Indigenous to this Henisphere, being that Black people are the oldest race? THERE ARE Black people all over this planet. Wouldn’t it make sense that we are / were everywhere first, being Indigenous to the planet?
Why is that so hard to admit?
If the Aztec and Mayan got their calendar and civilization from the Black race, THEY GOT EVERYTHING FROM THE BLACK RACE. Doesn’t that make logical sense?
My eyes aren’t lying to me and they aren’t lying to these so called scholars. They are suffering from cognitive dissonance.based on their race based miseducation.
"black people" is not a meaningful grouping of people. the first people of the americas were various shades of native american people, there's no such thing as "the black race".
@@eeeaten if humanity started in Africa and humans seeded the planet then Africans technically seeded the planet. What’s the argument here? You got some palm colored people who want to argue against the Omecs being black but wouldn’t anyone who lives anywhere just be Africans who went elsewhere, making Olmecs African by default.
You can't lie about it , the images are there for you to see💯.
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Yup they look like foos from veracruz, chiapas, Tabasco and campeche
So I guess It’s taboo to be African outside of Africa before the 1600s lol
Africans aren't the only blacks with those features