This is magic. The music connects me to God in a way that mainstream Christian rock with acoustic guitar and clapping along never could. I'd love to hear this live with a choir of like 500,000+ people singing along.
@@justforever96 this is a hymn from John Wesley..in my country, majority of the people are Wesleyan. They sing this same hymn but in my language. Wesleyan was spread throughout the Pacific because of British influence.
Yeah, it's funny because the movie was decent, not amazing - but this song and that scene in the church was unforgettable. Still gives me chills when I listen to it on TH-cam.
+elliot stowe my god yeah it's great to know somebody out there loves this too. I understand totally about the mental imagery. I am currently sat in the dark, candlelight, glass of wine and this wonderful piece of music. Thank you for your reply Elliot
Lawless brought me here too. This form of singing makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. All I want to do, is join in. It must appeal to a basic need in us.
Come join then. Sacred Harp singing, info at fasola.com. All are welcome. Anyone who can sing in the shower can sing Sacred Harp. Skill and good voice are totally optional; we think it adds to the texture of the music. No judgement, all are welcome..and I mean all. Anyone can show up, doens't matter who, or what you are. No charge. There are singings all over the country, even in Europe now. Loaner books available, and it's pretty easy to just follow along if you don't know how to read the music yet.
As this song is heard over the hills, I know that the love of gods people will ring out as they confess their love with hoards of smite for me, I am HEATHEN.
Seems to be a worldwide club of people moved to search for this song/singing style. I also heard it in the film Lawless. Maybe the best thing to come out of lockdown.
Look for shape-note singing or "harp singing" groups in your area. They are pretty common. I sing with a group in Knoxville, Tennessee. Some churches still sing this way (there are a few churches with an unbroken tradition of it in the Smoky Mountains, for instance) but it's generally easier to find a group.
You want Sacred Harp singing. It's pretty popular these days , even starting up over in Europe. You can find singings near you at fasola.org, attendance is free for all, books are $25, but you can borrow one in most cases. People will go out of their way to welcome you and help you get there, lot of food available. Wonderful tradition, great fun. Sacred Harp is the most popular and well-known group, but there are others as well; two different Sacred Harps, the Shenandoah Harmony, Christian Harmony, Old Harp, Missouri Harmony. All are shape note books, but if you can read regular music you can read shape notes. If you can't you can learn. I did.
It's called "Detroit", not "Do Not I Love Thee". Page 39, top, Denson book, 59 If you like this, look up Sacred Harp then "Child of Grace", or "Florida", or "Wonderous Love", "Saint's Delight", "King of Peace", "Cavalry", "Windham". Ah, hell, there are so many. But those are a good start. And then check out "Shenandoah Harmony Boulder" and others. Detroit Do not I love thee, dearest Lord, behold my heart and see And turn each cursed/worthless idol out that dares to rival Thee Do not I love Thee, from my soul? Then let me nothing love Dead be my heart to ev'ry joy, when Jesus cannot move, Thou Knowest I love Thee, dearest Lord, but oh I long to soar! Far from the spheres of mortal joy, and learn to love Thee more. Hast Thou a lamb in all Thy flock, I would disdain to feed? Hast Thou a foe before whose face I fear Thy cause to plead?"
It is both, actually. Originally, it was titled "Detroit". Then Wilson Cooper changed many of the "arbitrarily chosen" titles to something that fit the text better. That is why this song is often titled "Do Not I Love Thee, Oh My Lord (Detroit)". Because it is both.
If you like this minor key sound in particular check out the Shenandoah Harmony singings. They have a even more songs in this style than the Sacred Harp, there are a couple channels on TH-cam focusing on that book. One is just called Shenandoah Harmony, one is called Superdonkeyears. it's my new favorite book these days.
No it isn't. This is an English hymn. I really wish you would not try to steal another culture. Also it is a more noble culture than the slavic degeneracy.
It's not a "choir", its a group of Sacred Harp singers. Mostly amateurs who get together to sign from The Sacred Harp (.fasola.org). Choirs sing for audiences, Sacred Harp singers do it for fun. If you like it, there are hundreds of videos of Sacred Harp songs on TH-cam, and you can see and hear what it's like in the Hollow Square. Detroit is one of the better songs in the book, but there are dozens that are even better. There are almost 600 songs total, so plenty to choose from.
John, This is called "Sacred Harp" aka "shape note". Originating in America (with roots in Europe), it is sung all over the world, this is 4-part acapella singing to God and to one another. Singers of any experience (including none at all!) are welcome to participate or listen, and it is indeed powerful when you are there. Look up www.fasola.org for a singing nearest you.
PS John: the first "verse" is the group catching its pitch singing "fa so la mi" in four different parts. The "second" verse is actually the first verse being sung (in English.)
Yes, except the first part. They "sing the shapes" first; "fa, so, la, mi", etc, and then the first verse. "Do not I love thee, dearest Lord, behold my heart and see And turn each cursed/worthless idol out that dares to rival Thee So not I love Thee, from my soul? Then let me nothing love Dead be my heart to ev'ry joy, when Jesus cannot move, Thou Knowest I love Thee, dearest Lord, but oh I long to soar! Far from the spheres of mortal joy, and learn to love Thee more. Hast Thou a lamb in all Thy flock, I would disdain to feed? Hast Thou a foe before whose face I fear Thy cause to plead?"
This is magic. The music connects me to God in a way that mainstream Christian rock with acoustic guitar and clapping along never could. I'd love to hear this live with a choir of like 500,000+ people singing along.
This just makes me want to bow down and worship the heavenly father, the most high and jesus my king and saviour ❤
The old revival hymns are the most beautiful songs.
Some Wesleyan churches still sing this way. No instruments. No microphones. Pure, untempered voice.
I doubt they sing quite this way. A capella, sure, but Sacred Harp has a pretty distinctive sound it picked up over the decades.
I'd love to hear it.
Where!? When?...Flippen love it!! Its moving an sweet!
@@justforever96 this is a hymn from John Wesley..in my country, majority of the people are Wesleyan. They sing this same hymn but in my language. Wesleyan was spread throughout the Pacific because of British influence.
m.th-cam.com/video/6ZRrfBq6x4o/w-d-xo.html
Check it out and tell me what you think
Sacred harp… timeless! Thanks
It's funny how one scene from a movie can send us all to this. Lawless. l really like this x
Yeah, it's funny because the movie was decent, not amazing - but this song and that scene in the church was unforgettable. Still gives me chills when I listen to it on TH-cam.
Lawless movie has brought me here
Me too, lol
And I hope it’s the start of your salvation 🥰
Forever & Always brother!
Me too. Song is just so powerful
Same!
Wow so powerful. I heard this first in a film called Lawless. Wanted to check out its origin.
+elliot stowe my god yeah it's great to know somebody out there loves this too. I understand totally about the mental imagery. I am currently sat in the dark, candlelight, glass of wine and this wonderful piece of music. Thank you for your reply Elliot
me to I love that song.
Check out a song called Idumea from a movie Cold Mountain.
that's where I first heard it .it got me straight away
I’m primitive baptist and we sing this song on Sunday. Love it and it gets me every time. Also the song “I’m Going Home”
Lawless brought me here too. This form of singing makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. All I want to do, is join in. It must appeal to a basic need in us.
Come join then. Sacred Harp singing, info at fasola.com. All are welcome. Anyone who can sing in the shower can sing Sacred Harp. Skill and good voice are totally optional; we think it adds to the texture of the music. No judgement, all are welcome..and I mean all. Anyone can show up, doens't matter who, or what you are. No charge. There are singings all over the country, even in Europe now. Loaner books available, and it's pretty easy to just follow along if you don't know how to read the music yet.
yes, it has an elemental feel about it...raw and untempered.
Like Wolfes 😅
Maybe it's a basic need in you, but don't speak for the rest of us.
shame it dont go on for longer😢
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Be rich in mercy and put on the whole armor of God Incorruptible.
Grace and Peace unto you!
R.
Glorify The Father Which Is In Heaven Amen 🎺🙌👑🔥♥️💯
As this song is heard over the hills, I know that the love of gods people will ring out as they confess their love with hoards of smite for me, I am HEATHEN.
Seems to be a worldwide club of people moved to search for this song/singing style. I also heard it in the film Lawless. Maybe the best thing to come out of lockdown.
Whoa!!! I felt it in my chest, thx 4 uploading this Gem
thanks for the upload. I just love this song.
Avery moving and deeply powerful song!!!
The Anointing is strong in this song.
ARRRG goosebumps!
The only thing missing is the rhythmic stomping...
Don't worry I'm gonna sample this gotta do it 😭
I love this song so much thanks to Lawless 👌🏻👌🏻
Best version I've heard. Which class sings it?
This sounds awesome. Where do I find more of such powerfull choral singing?
Look for shape-note singing or "harp singing" groups in your area. They are pretty common. I sing with a group in Knoxville, Tennessee. Some churches still sing this way (there are a few churches with an unbroken tradition of it in the Smoky Mountains, for instance) but it's generally easier to find a group.
You want Sacred Harp singing. It's pretty popular these days , even starting up over in Europe. You can find singings near you at fasola.org, attendance is free for all, books are $25, but you can borrow one in most cases. People will go out of their way to welcome you and help you get there, lot of food available. Wonderful tradition, great fun. Sacred Harp is the most popular and well-known group, but there are others as well; two different Sacred Harps, the Shenandoah Harmony, Christian Harmony, Old Harp, Missouri Harmony. All are shape note books, but if you can read regular music you can read shape notes. If you can't you can learn. I did.
Sara Melton I couldn’t do it. I get overwhelmed with emotion and start crying
Lawless brought me here too :-)
I first heard this song in the movie "Cold Mountain".......I think...then Lawless.
That was "Idumea" by Ananias Davisson, sung by Sacred Harp Singers At Liberty Church.
I want this and ideaum played when I get lowered into the ground, my god be with y'all all
It's called "Detroit", not "Do Not I Love Thee". Page 39, top, Denson book, 59
If you like this, look up Sacred Harp then "Child of Grace", or "Florida", or "Wonderous Love", "Saint's Delight", "King of Peace", "Cavalry", "Windham". Ah, hell, there are so many. But those are a good start. And then check out "Shenandoah Harmony Boulder" and others.
Detroit
Do not I love thee, dearest Lord, behold my heart and see
And turn each cursed/worthless idol out that dares to rival Thee
Do not I love Thee, from my soul? Then let me nothing love
Dead be my heart to ev'ry joy, when Jesus cannot move,
Thou Knowest I love Thee, dearest Lord, but oh I long to soar!
Far from the spheres of mortal joy, and learn to love Thee more.
Hast Thou a lamb in all Thy flock, I would disdain to feed?
Hast Thou a foe before whose face I fear Thy cause to plead?"
It is both, actually. Originally, it was titled "Detroit". Then Wilson Cooper changed many of the "arbitrarily chosen" titles to something that fit the text better.
That is why this song is often titled "Do Not I Love Thee, Oh My Lord (Detroit)".
Because it is both.
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These are beautiful! Thank you. This sacred harp stuff is amazing.
If you like this minor key sound in particular check out the Shenandoah Harmony singings. They have a even more songs in this style than the Sacred Harp, there are a couple channels on TH-cam focusing on that book. One is just called Shenandoah Harmony, one is called Superdonkeyears. it's my new favorite book these days.
lindo. simplesmente lindo
2024 and still at the peak
Pure soul I hear
Lawless. Finally got it.
Which type of church music is this? Baptist? Evangelical? Methodist?
This is excellent
This is the russian style of singing!!! Definitely!!!
No it isn't. This is an English hymn. I really wish you would not try to steal another culture. Also it is a more noble culture than the slavic degeneracy.
@@LiamWhite99 you stupid!!! I say it's a russian STYLE of singing!!! I didn't tell anything about text!
yes! reminds me of vichnaya pamyat
@@LiamWhite99 funny the Englishman failed to understand plain english
It literally originated in America and is used in Protestant churches
Ultimate Fire.
When I heard this in Lawless I instantly thought of eastern influence, like Orthodox chants or something.
"Do not I love thee"
Da Pacem Domine
I can fell it
So what was the girl? Was she Wesleyian?
2020/10/13 09:22 PM watching Lawless
Wow just wow
Wow. So fricken moving. But what language are they singing. I can't make out the words.
English...
Is this song American?
Funny, these aren't the same words exactly as in the Sacred Harp. Wonder where they got these from?
Kel Harper tradition perhaps?
So what's the origin of this piece? Not just the lyrics but also which sect of Christianity this applies to. Does anyone know?
I'm not religious either, I'm just curious about its origin.
I think - baptism, adventist or anabaptism. Becuse the "Foot Washing" in movie is the rite of them. *sorry for my english
This is a Sacred Harp piece, just search "39t Detroit" on the internet.
Thank you very much, I found their page.
its Jewish
2025
Do you have the choir name that sings this?
It's not a "choir", its a group of Sacred Harp singers. Mostly amateurs who get together to sign from The Sacred Harp (.fasola.org). Choirs sing for audiences, Sacred Harp singers do it for fun. If you like it, there are hundreds of videos of Sacred Harp songs on TH-cam, and you can see and hear what it's like in the Hollow Square. Detroit is one of the better songs in the book, but there are dozens that are even better. There are almost 600 songs total, so plenty to choose from.
William Walker I tell you what I’d do anything to be apart and listen and just be amazed by they’re glory
Detroit #39
lyrics?
is this in English or what ?
John,
This is called "Sacred Harp" aka "shape note". Originating in America (with roots in Europe), it is sung all over the world, this is 4-part acapella singing to God and to one another. Singers of any experience (including none at all!) are welcome to participate or listen, and it is indeed powerful when you are there. Look up www.fasola.org for a singing nearest you.
PS John: the first "verse" is the group catching its pitch singing "fa so la mi" in four different parts. The "second" verse is actually the first verse being sung (in English.)
Thanks for the information.
Yes, except the first part. They "sing the shapes" first; "fa, so, la, mi", etc, and then the first verse.
"Do not I love thee, dearest Lord, behold my heart and see
And turn each cursed/worthless idol out that dares to rival Thee
So not I love Thee, from my soul? Then let me nothing love
Dead be my heart to ev'ry joy, when Jesus cannot move,
Thou Knowest I love Thee, dearest Lord, but oh I long to soar!
Far from the spheres of mortal joy, and learn to love Thee more.
Hast Thou a lamb in all Thy flock, I would disdain to feed?
Hast Thou a foe before whose face I fear Thy cause to plead?"
Thanks for the replies !
Sacred harp
I just puked too much moonshine
ololololololololol
Is there a place where i can download this beautiful choir