Unveiling the Reality Behind Russia's 'Dragon's Teeth' Barriers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- In the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine, one term has gained notoriety: "Dragon's Teeth." These formidable concrete pyramids, along with hedgehogs and minefields, send a clear message to NATO and its proxies in Ukraine: Russia is here to stay, and the Kyiv regime won't gain an inch of Russian territory. However, amidst the whispers of its invincibility, doubts have surfaced. Ukrainian media once shared a striking footage: British-made Challenger-2 tanks effortlessly plowing through scattered Dragon Teeth Defense. As the scary machines overcame these once-feared obstacles, a scary soundtrack boomed, declaring, "I'm on the highway to hell."
This dramatic encounter sparks a critical question: Are Russia's 'Dragon's Teeth' defenses truly indestructible or is their reputation merely a smokescreen concealing vulnerabilities? Join us as we delve into these legendary fortifications, seeking to uncover the truth behind the myth!!!
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If you dont secure them with a foundation in the ground they are easly defeated by a V shaped plow. Its the extremely dense mine fields that are slowing the Ukrainian advance.
The function of this defense is to hinder the enemy, not stop him
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa
They apparently don’t hinder them… that’s because they were not properly deployed.
1000% true👍
Correctamundo.👍
@@Not-a-GSD A video of a Ukrainian Challenger 2 tank with a plow going through a dragon teeth line without any kind of enemy fire around sure means those dragon teeth were nor properly deployed. And what about the UK asking the Ukrainians to use the Challenger only from 5 Km of the line of contact? It is definitively not a tool they are really planning to use against the dragon teeth.
"Well, it's one for the Money
Two for the Show
Three to get ready
Now go, cat, go"
The German's version of Dragon teeth were connected to each other by concrete. This made it harder to push them aside.
They were also made with actual rebar concrete .. not cardboard and spray paint.
This footage is clearly at a test area for practice. You have to live long enough to get over or past them. And UkroNazis can't get within 8 km of them.
I have been watching so many videos about dragon teeth and I haven't seen anything you are talking about. Would you like to point out where I could see that?
@@GegeDxD 1:32 maybe?
It wasn't a video, but I remember reading about it.@@GegeDxD
If you believe what TASS says, which is in fact for domestic consumption in russia, well, Ukraine lost 1500 jet fighters, 450 HiMARS, 105 Patriot batteries and 1 million soldiers...
The main issue for the 1st line of defence was about 9 mines per square metre, sometimes even more: russians planted about 10-20 millions mines. Dragon teeth are not really a big issue, going through a huge minefield is a real one...
Finally .. a sane response in a comment mine-field of madness and arm-chair Sun Tzu's.
@@THE-X-Force Thank you.
Might be because this stuff is part of my bedtime stories and my real fight is against insomnia. Maybe b rain gets a better irrigation in horizontal position than in an a arm-chair
Any way, they all just discuss at tactical, at best strategy levels while what matters is logistics and geopolitics.
BTW, there is $10 trillions of shale gas into the Donetsk-Dniepro basin... Once Orc-free, time to invest into fracking companies...
as Russians planted these for wars but now they're reaping defeat!
Glad I wasn't the only one to spot the news source. TASS likes to lose count with certain statistics that are money-makers.
Facts is a very interesting way to describe these numbers! Agree with the other comments here
1. Obstacles must always be covered by fire
2. Obstacles tie into each other...like mines and ditches
3. If it's too easy...it's a kill zone
You mean kill zone like robotni....
@@joshuamitchell1733 Exactly. Robotyne is still a kill zone with hundreds of Ukr soldiers dying there every week since the village is covered by Rus artillery and drones. The famous BOBR FPV drone squad of the Russian Army is absolutely menace terrorizing the Ukr.
Oh please .. do tell us more, Sun Tzu.
Maybe this one: _"If the bullets penetrate too easily,_ _it's because the troops were given fake body armor and helmets lined with tin foil."_
Such a classic.
@@THE-X-ForceThe last time they tell me like this, they took Bakhmut with shovel and washing machine
@@lotuscabage4755 I saw a Ukrainian grandmother take out a RU drone with a jar full of pickles .. and that's no joke.
In WW2, a measure of air superiority allowed the fortifications backing the dragons teeth to be pulverised by bombs and artillery. The teeth themselves were well dug in, so a path could be cleared by explosives, or simply cover them with earth (or fascines) to create a path. That just left the mines.
Germany built it for 6 years and before World War II started. so of course it's better
This footage is clearly at a test area for practice. You have to live long enough to get over or past them. And UkroNazis can't get within 8 km of them.
'Simply' covering it by earth suggests that the Germans would be asleep while you are doing so. Yes, if you look at the teeth in isolation, not as part of a defense line, then you can use the word 'simply'.
In Switzerland, we have these all over the place, so I'm well acquainted with them.
You missed the main point of difference between the WWII-era dragon's teeth and (most) of the ones Russia is using now: the WWII ones are heavily anchored in the ground, there is more concrete IN the ground than is visible above, and those teeth are all connected together.
Whereas the Russian ones we can see in the video are just pre-made blocks that can be moved easily.
Like most defences, they are placed to funnel incoming armour and troops, to small areas they are clearing and to slow the advance of all forces, so existing defensive forces can mass at the area being breached, until reinforcements can arrive. Dragons teeth have NEVER been designed to STOP any modern enemy forced, only slow them down, and create killing corridors, with complimentary layers of defence. It is all working, in the way in which they were successfully designed to do.
Jeez z
Sure comrade, sure. You should tell that to all the dead orcs well behind the dragons teeth the Ukrainians have been rolling over the last two days
And they would work that way, if the Russians had used those designs well. But this is not the case.
@@carlosperez-dw1dp4 months of counter offensive😂😂😂
20 feet of #6 rebar, top of the pyramid straight down might be helpful, connecting 2 or 3. Otherwise it's just sad 😢 u almost wanna say that it's Okay, looks great, good job,🍪 is yours.
The Challenger 2 demonstrates what I call "Dragon's Dentures".
There is a fundamental difference between the WWII Siegfried line and most of the Dragon's Dentures I've seen (granted, a VERY small sample on film). Russia mass produced the pyramids in a factory, then dropped of the back of a truck, letting them sit on the field like dog turds. A heavy frost could tip them over . Yes, they are a bit of an obstacle, but the real killer is the insane density of mine fields. When you compare the russian Dentures and the real Dragon's Teeth created in WWII. The germans used 10's of thousands of slaves to pour the concrete in place with footings that joined the rows together. Those teeth could not simply be pushed out of the way by a blade. Those german teeth are still in place, almost as strong as they were 70 years ago. The russia teeth will be dragged out of the fields by farmer's tractors after the field has been demined. Actually, chain 4 to 6 on a heavy pipe out front of a big dozer (D8 or D9)and those teeth bouncing over the field would trigger mines ...
@3:50 and once earlier you used the same clip of a soldier placing explosive and an explosion saying Dragon's teeth are used in conjunction with minefields. That statement is true. The video does not demonstrate that! The video is demonstrating a sapper removing an enemy dragon's tooth "the hard way" It could simply be pushed out of the way.
In one video I saw they were running a heavy cable between the teeth. That would make them more of a nuisance.
Other than that they are an ineffective distraction. The minefields and artillery are the real danger.
Not that innefective then. Dsitracting looking time , drones and lancets. Easy 1 grade ecuation
Not effective. Their demonstration doesnt same in realtity...
Nearly all tanks come with excavation blades. It is quite easy and quick to attach them to the tank and simply push "these particular" dragon teeth out of the way. They will only reduce tank formations speed but they wont pose any threat or real obstacle. If they had fixed the dragon teeth with proper foundations, unlike in this case, they would have been a relevant and effective defense. In this occasion, I repeat it was a failure. Anti-tank mines however, have proven to be extremely successful for the Russian army and extra-wide trenches definitely have their place too.
Yeah, you all thought that the counter offensive will be so easy for Ukrainians too and how they will push Russians in a month. But what happened?
Dragon teeth are an insignificant and not essential part of defensive fortifications. More important are underground tunnels, a network of warehouses, and so on. Tanks cannot be stopped by these pyramids. But helicopters, fpv drones, mines, artillery, ATGM can stop tanks without any problems
@@struvrim7637 they will need excavators to get through. This means a number of tanks will be funnelled behind one excavator or through one gap at a place meanwhile they are being watched and bombed.
@@mhlangamlungisi5108 I don't think the excavators will survive an ATGM encounter from an attack helicopter. If you send tanks, then all the tanks will be burned, this has already happened more than once. There is already a road of death from burnt armored vehicles. More precisely, there are many such drogos in different places on the front. In some videos I counted almost 50 units of burnt armored vehicles along the road
Those dragon teeth are a gimmick, like these WWII style defensive fortifications, only poorly made. They could not have installed them at all with the same result
Everyone focused on this component of the fortifications, although in fact the problem with the Ukrainian counter-offensive is that any armored vehicles burn out before even reaching the front line
There is also a problem that those villages that Ukraine had already passed through before had to be completely destroyed to the ground, as a result, the advancing troops have nowhere to hide. Even having reached a distance of 0 meters to the front line, another problem arises, the supply of ammunition
Now, as far as we know, Ukrainian soldiers need about 1 day to walk from 7 km to 0 km under fire. At the same time, there is only ammunition that can be carried on oneself without equipment. This ammunition is enough for several hours of battle, then the group must go back, while UAVs are always hanging in the sky. What kind of losses this leads to, you can guess for yourself, no one will tell the truth anyway
Germans in the 1940s did that a lot better: some of their dragonteeth anti tank obstacles still remain in place here in The Netherlands in 2023.
Yeah, they had a lot of slave manpower to do that that for them.
Yeah I think they where made differently. They where made in situ and where dug in a little. These dragon teeth are pre manufactured then out in place.
I think it’s a time vs effective situation, I doubt they could have made such extensive defences so quickly if done the other way.
Well, there's another point: NL authorities not willing to dilapidate money at removing these!
@@modenasolone what a bs..............
That's why Germany won the war, oh wait.
Dragon's teeth are no longer effective, but are used by Russia because Russia has no other better alternatives.
Its not a dragons tooth, its a range marker for artilery and atgms
Dragon's Teeth seem to be 1. Cheap. 2. Easily made 3. Can be made very quickly. 4. Customize it to suit any landscape. 5. Combined with mines and barbed wire its better than "nothing" thats for sure. 6. Not every tank has a "plow" on the front of it. 7. Indirectly creates a "visual" border that can be seen on the ground, and from space. 8. Narrows path for entry and retreat. 9. I think if it can slow down the enemy by 5 or 10 minutes, its worth it in a world of drones thats plenty of time to swarm to that area.
It's time for artillery preparation
Finally, I have found sane comment from the grown up. Most of others look like from children.
The main difference between RuZZian "dragon`s Teeth" an German from the "Siegfried Linie" is:
German "Dragon`s teeth" were connected by concrete beneath the earth, while Ruzzian "Dragon`s teeth" are just tetraedric concrete put onto the ground. Therefore RuZZian "dragon`s teeth" might be pushed aside. German "dragon Teeth" will stay were they are.
Till today, after almost 80 years.
Will there be RuZZian "dragon Teeth" in 80 years in Ukraine?
I doubt it.
We still have some WW2 dragon's teeth here in Kent, and they are the same. Big buggers, set into the ground. They aren't going anywhere.
These puny Russian things could be moved by two blokes and a length of scaffold pole.
Because the Russian Dragon Teeth is intended for potential counter attack
@@donveto4317 Russian Ballista factories are ramping up production as we speak. 🤣
@@sarkybugger5009 Russians are not just thinking about the battle front , they are thinking as well the diplomatic front as well as the potential changes of peace leaning western leaders after the elections in most western countries specially the US after Trump victory. Its worth the wait actually because current biden regime is all for the death of its ukrainian slaves
Perhaps we will find out. That’s if the AFU ever reaches them…
Drawing comparisons between WW2 German dragon's teeth and 2023 Russian dragon's teeth is like comparing a Mercedes Benz with a Russian Lada. They aren't anchored, they are not heavy, and they come with a cute little steel loop for quick removal. The Ukrainians should take an 'end run' around these 'teeth' and later, dig them up after the war and dumped them into the shallow, Sea of Azov channel off the coast of Mariupol. This portion of the Sea of Azov is no deeper than 10-15 meters (30-45 feet). By dumping these dragon's teeth, it would effectively create an underwater 'breakwater' and seal off ship and submarine access to Rostov on Don and the Caspian Sea.
Or they could ship them all to the russian and belarussian borders.
Fabulous dalbayob 🤣🤣🤣
That's a good idea, but I was thinking they could be stuck in the ground upside down to make nice patios for new Ukrainian homes.🙂
Unless they float away when they dump them in the water :-D
@@troelsersking101 Possibly so... instead of being an underwater breakwater, they become floating concrete icebergs doing titanic damage to passenger ferries, patrol ships, and Oligarch's yachts.
The fact the thumbnail picture shows them sitting on a standard wood pallet really tells you all you need to know.
It is not a problem to break through, but it is a problem to retreat when you are under fire..you cant find way out
Erm thats why sappers mark the way with radar reflective boards, infared boards and sipple tape.
Modern armor have this gear called "REVERSE". Amazing technology really.
MINES! THIS IS THE REAL TREATH! SLAVA UKRAINE!
The Russian defenses using dragons' teeth are far weaker than the Siegfried line, which had strategically located steel-reinforced concrete bunkers and foundations for the dragons' teeth. When asked if he could pass the Siegfried line, US General Patton said that if given what he needed, he would go through the Siegfried line like shit through a goose--and he did. In the event, the Americans simply used armored bulldozers to build roads over the dragons' teeth and associated defenses. The hedgerows in Normandy were more of a problem until the Americans put cutter bars (made from the Czech hedgehogs conveniently left behind by the Wehrmacht) on their tanks so they could push through the hedgerows wherever and whenever they wished.
Only difference is the ukrops need to make it through miles of open lands littered with mines 😂
Так иди покажи им как надо воевать, они 4 месяца зубы пройти не могут. Западные люди полны максимализма
"Russia is here to stay" 🤣 like they did in Kherson
And then there was the "Bakhmut fortress"
We, Cambodian people, pray that Ukrainian soldiers are able to break through these barriers with the help from Western equipment🙏🙏🙏.
Cambodia is an Asian country
According to Ukraine asian are not human
You white worshippers
😂😂😂
Is there any video of Ukrainian vehicles actually breaching these defense lines? Going through these dragon teeth or crossing the antitank trench?
There will be as they have done it in verbove
There were 3 BMPs that crossed the tank ditch towards verbove, as expected, they were destroyed by missiles. It's unlikely the Ukrainians will be able to move armored vehicles across the anti tank ditch in any numbers unless they are able to push the Russians 20 kilometers back, which has a zero chance of happening.
@@justaguynamedmax8207 There was an attack on Verbove past the Suroviken line with Ukrainian Military vehicles just recently. Marders and Strykers. Russia filmed the whole thing, and in the aftermath showed 1 of the Marders being destroyed.
There is also a video of a Ukranian BMP just casually driving over a row of dragon teeths. Just google "A ukrainian IFV simply drives through some infamous dragon teeth"
Correction, the Marder was only immobilized and abandoned, but was later destroyed by Russian forces.
@@jamiewinter603 they didnt actually. Only infantry.
"Ukraine lost 7,600 units of various armour" lols. Are we counting pieces of body armour? Obviously Ukraine has lost a reasonable amount of armour but 7,600 is simply ridiculous.
It's because the "source" is a russian "news" agency
Well according to Oryx Russia lost ~12000 armoured vehicles. If true, then 7600 isn’t unreasonable.
@@blugaledoh2669 and oryx uses exclusively Ukrainian sources, so you know how reliable they are. They were caught before for posting Ukrainian vehicles as Russian.
@@blugaledoh2669 Both figures are ridiculous.
@@johnmichaelson9173 I also agree
This video misses the point. The WW2 Dragons Teeth still in place are there because they are too difficult and expensive to remove. This is because a significant proportion of each tooth is buried so it is not possible to just scoop them up with a bulldozer. The Russian ones are simply dropped of a truck and sit on the surface. They are in any event too small to be dug in. Odds on that some contractor(s) have done a sub standard job and pocketed the difference. Seems to be a standard Russian SNAFU.
They should have had 3-6 feet long metal spikes beneath to solidly anker them in the ground. Not to mention the blocks should have been interlinked. This is a discount version of traditional anti-tank defenses.
It is my understanding that the Dragons Teeth need to be partially buried & tied together to work properly.
The Russians appear to be simply placing them on the ground? Hence they would be near useless.
Probably they don't have much time to do it right, but on the other hand Ukrainian soldiers pushed back russian forces from Kharkivskaya oblast because there were no mines or dragon teeth. What Ukrainian doing now its complete balls
The land will do it for them because they ground of ukraine is soft
Experience from World War II showed that such defensive fortifications are expensive and useless. The forces that protect it are stretched and poorly mobile. This gives initiative to the attacker, when in which he will strike. Also, it represents a nuisance and obstacle to its own forces in an eventual counterattack.
Quoting Russia's DOD on Ukraine's casualities during the counteroffensive 5:42 (supposedly 66k) is like trusting what a high school boy says he intends to do with your daughter.
Orix analysis of photographically verifiable equipment damage, ie. real data, actually suggest substantially higher Russian losses than Ukraine, based on the numbers and types of vehicles destroyed, even though Ukrine is the one surging forward on offense.
The entire telegram is filled with burning “indestructible” NATO tanks.
There are many videos filmed by Russian intelligence officers, as in the most “safe Western tanks”, corpses of Ukrainian “non-Nazis” scorched to the bones are lying around.
How the Ukrainian trenches are filled with the corpses of Ukrainian soldiers in the most “modern ammunition” with the “most advanced” small arms.
Where is the Ukrainian video evidence?
where are the Russian defense breakthroughs?
where are the mountains of Russian corpses?
All that Ukraine can show is the destruction of long-abandoned tanks and assaults on empty trenches that are located in an unknown location (where they miraculously, after editing, show prisoners of war who were captured “in these trenches”).
Yes, yes, Ukraine is winning, they fulfilled everything they said at the start of the counteroffensive. xD
Люди которые реально там воюют, говорят что потери Украины в 10 раз больше чем у России
@@user-xk6ge5sn3x ENGLISH MTHRFKR .. DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
You see everyone else here writing in English. You obviously can read it. Why are you so special that you can't reply with it?
and even if that figure is correct it is unlikely to be related to the dragon teeth. I would guess most of the losses ukrain had in robotyne area were before they reach the DT at all, and in any case they sent infantry to clean up behind DT lines.
So yeh maybe it delayed ukranians by few days, but the ROI seems to be bad.
@@markkaplun232 the return on investment in the Ukrainian army is so high that the United States and European countries are creating their own commissions to account for stolen funds in the most non-Nazi and democratic country in Europe xD
In Australia we have dragons teeth still in many places, leftovers from the second world war. There are a lot of them at Stockton, Newcastle NSW.
Dragons teeth aren’t the problem, it’s the minefields.
Well the Russians are obviously doing something right because we all seen Bradley Square.
Exactly this. These or a minefield can easily be overcome by themselves. However these are normally in the first of 3 lines of trenches and are pre-targetted by artillery. They may have got flak for their 'WW2' style tactics but clearly it still works as Ukraines counteroffensive gained back last territory than Russias assault
So the video quotes the Russian News Agency without question, as if that source is credible? Seriously? That one act destroys the credibility of this entire video.
Would you react the same way if Ukrainian propaganda were quoted uncritically?
@@nunliskior western propaganda
The source is almost never the issue
People think sourcing things is a game
The truth is you have to read all of them
Compaire them to each other and compair them to the things you can identify yourself
Then come to a conclusion
But that requires effort
Yes, this is just a Russian propaganda channel disguised as information.
I guess when the Russian Generals steal half the budget to construct these "teeth", they aren't so effective.
"Fixed fortifications are a monument to man's stupidity," George S Patton upon seeing the Siegfried Line.
in order for dragon teeth to be effective they have to be large and heavy and also have to be sunken deep into the ground ( foundation ) so they cant be ploughed or pushed aside. Russian dragons teeth in ukraine are non of these. They sit on top of the ground suface. For dragons teeth there are very small hence not to heavy so can be pushed or ploughed aside easily with the aid of tanks and bulldozer blades. Theyve got the growl but not the bite but the mines as always are the real problem
Quoting Russian MoD's figures on Ukrainian losses as fact puts you on the list of sites spouting Russian propaganda.
I prefer Ukrainian propaganda.
Exactly.
Why not quote the CIA report, which says Ukraine cannot maintain unsustainable losses?
Tell that to "ThE GhOsT oF KiEv " 😂
@@modenasolone haha
It is impossible to consider the "Dragon's Teeth" separately from other elements of defense. This approach was shown by Ukrainian propaganda, having moved several concrete pyramids with Challenger-2, in their rear. We can speak about this quite confidently. For the reason that at the moment, we can definitely say that the APU does not use the Challenger-2 in attacks.
"Dragon's teeth", only an element of defense, integral to others. If you just put the "Dragon's Teeth" in the field, the enemy will bring construction equipment and take them away. "Dragon's teeth" are usually placed under the cover of a defensive line with machine gun emplacements and artillery gunners.
Why not remove the dragon's teeth with a tank equipped with a blade? Such as on the "Challenger-2" and the Ukrainian video. - You can also put a device for mine clearance on the tank. Why is this not being done? Because such a tank will immediately become a target for artillery and drones. So the APU lost most of its equipment for mine clearance.
Why not shoot the dragon's teeth with armor-piercing shells? - You want the APU tank to go to the position of direct fire and shoot at the "Dragon's Teeth" from there. It will take a lot of shots, and he will be standing in front of the Russian positions. How many tanks will it take to burn for such a overcoming of the barrier strip.
Send infantry to clear mines? - Why storm the fortifications with tanks at all? You can send infantry, let it blow up the "Dragon's Teeth", let it blow up the machine-gun pillboxes behind them, remove all mines. Everything would be fine. But the infantry does not return from such tasks.
"Go around the "Dragon's teeth" where there are none." - This is a very fresh idea. "Dragon's teeth" block tank-dangerous directions. But you can go through rivers or ravines, where tanks will not pass. You can go through the minefields. As I noticed, the APU prefer this solution. You can also ask the Poles to take off their "Dragon Teeth" and go from there through Belarus.
If you turn those dragon teeth upside down and pile drive them into the ground, you have a wet weather tank track ready made.
What we learned on fixt defences from WWII, they were already obsolete when they were put in place. When they first get punched through, they quickly loose their defensibility. Fixed defences can’t be moved once deployed, hence they are static. The troops manning them are fixed, static too. The Russians looses their flexibility because they have to defend a particular area.
The Ukrainian army has continuously targeted and taken out the Russian artillery. Then they can get to work on the minefields undisturbed by incoming Russian shells. The Russians has deployed their best troops around Bachmut. They can’t deploy them everywhere. In this area, there are less defensive lines to overcome. The Russians have made the most defensive lines in the south. In general, to defend such a long line, takes a lot of troops and they are strong out thinly over a wide area. So my guess is based on what history have learned us about the failure of fixed defences. They work for a short time, but in the end, they all got overwhelmed.
So russias defenses are a joke.....and ukraine can only take a small village called robotni which russia still has fire control over at this point. If the defenses were a joke then what are natos proxy army (ukraine) and nato weapons.....
@@joshuamitchell1733Ukraine is a much smaller country with a much smaller army and military budget. And yet they are on the offensive and taking back land. Also Russian trolls conveniently dont mention Ukraine taking back Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson, Snake Island, etc etc
@@nczioox1116Sure uckonazi lover 😂😂
@@nczioox1116You pretending as you don't know or you really don't know that all Ukrainian weapons and systems are destroyed? They are 100% dependent on NATO countries right now, but even NATO countries are stopping pumping weapons to them, well they have no, actually, ran out of ammunition.
@@GegeDxDtake a deworming pill idjit troll.
No mention that Dragon's teeth are supposed to be dug into the ground, not just placed on top - Russian apologist, blocked.
Depends on purpose. Y'all base all of your armchair expertise on fixed defensive obstacles of the Second World War. Then you narrow it down to only the western half of Europe.
All static defenses need to be covered by fire. The video we just saw of the Challenger moving a Dragon's Tooth aside did not have people firing anti tank weapons and artillery at the Challenger. Additionally the dragon's teeth are supposed to be chained together when those the Challenger was pushing didn't appear to have.
Combat engineers attempting to destroy the teeth with demolitions would be fairly easy targets for smallm arms, gredade launchers, mortars and artillery.
The dragons teeth have worked well enough for Russia to date. There has been no mass Ukraine breakthrough.
They are like anything defeatable given time and the correct tools - which for reasons I cant understand we're not willing to give the Ukrainians.
What do you do with the mine as the tank are pushing those dargon teeth and what about artillery?
When did the challenger get to the dragon's teeth because 2 were roasted without getting any action or being close to the barriers? Sounds like a challenger marketing campaign, please include Lancet in this promotion!
Exactly
Only one challenger was roasted. It first hit a mine and was then finished off by an artillery shell not a drone and dragons teeth were not anywhere near it. However there is a video from one area showing Ukrainian armour moving through dragon teeth which were simply pushed out of the way, because the Russians failed to anchor them in place.
You'll note the footage shown in the video includes parties of men standing in the open watching - this is propaganda footage and/or a training/testing exercise.
@@1337flite Except it was taken on the newly occupied parts near Verbone
@@andyglastonbury6032 no it wasn’t
they should be larger and half buried, then they cant be moved so easily
But that would take "work"... both physical *and* mental...
yeah but not THAT much more work, the ground there is soft so its easy to dig@@joe6167
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man." General George S. Patton
Seems the Russian mines have been the issue the dragons teeth seemed to have been passed far easier.
Tthere are also movement sensors and cameras everywhere…not only dragon 🐉 teeth and trenches….
This is effective, that's why uk military push forward to the end of dragon teeth string, not in the middle. Moreover, special technics that could overcome it or destroy it are very limited.
Blast it by tank or artillery and proceed through......... only space needed is for two tanks wide. If the mines are behind the dragon teeth then those should be several times bigger challenge.
"...and whether these facts are linked to the Dragon Teeth strategy remains uncertain..." I laughed out loud. After a year and an half of war, Ukraine has only just recently encountered the Dragon's Teeth. I think we can be pretty sure, whatever the real number, the majority of Ukrainian casualties has nothing to do with Dragon's Teeth.
I also liked how you showed World War II German Dragon's Teeth were much better constructed than Russia's lumps of concrete sitting on the ground.
Otherwise, a nice piece of propaganda.
When you make dragons teeth out of concrete and styrofoam, when it rains hard, they won't last long.
Our local council uses 'dragon's' teeth to stop gypsies camping in pub car parks. They just push them out of the way, mind they're not being shot at.
Never trust in gypsy or russian,that what my grand dad told me,he killed lots ofrussians in ww2.
They didn’t keep Patton out of Germany, and they won’t keep the Ukrainians from getting through
@kensmith8152 That depends if Ukraine ever starts the Offensive.
Hang on Late news just in.
Ukraine offensive has been going for three and a half Months.
Guess Something is working unless you watch the MSM they will feed you everything you need to Know whether it true or not is highly questionable.
Like everything else when the West is involved control the Media and you control the narrative by that I mean What were the WMD's.
Oh Really they didnt exist so they F*CK3D up Iraq over a lie.
Then of course it was Afghanistan 20 Years to Replace the Enemy with the Same Said Enemy only with a Bonus 82 Billion worth of Weapons left as a Parting Gift.
Good luck with all that. Z!
They are an extra part of in depth defence if you’re slowed enough for artillery to smack you then they are indeed effective
They do channel the enemy in to a bottle neck, also they need to be sunk to prevent or make it hard to remove.
The most efficient method to defeat Dragon’s Teeth is for Moscow to withdraw and dismantle them.
Russia is taking the whole thing. The treacherous West cannot be trusted.
Bruh, keep dreaming
Joke of the days😅
@@Alex_Wotor Dreams precede reality.
When russia does it its bad but when poland does it its all good....talk about having a dog in this fight.
First Poland is deploying them in Poland.
Russia is deploying them in occupied Ukraine.
No evidence was given to how Poland has installed theirs but I don't think anyone in a NATO country is concerned about a Russian tank offensive.
They don't have enough modern tanks left to make a difference, so Polish deployment is probably to stop lighter vehicles .
Russia's Dragon teeth deployment isn't stopping anything it's the mines and artillery that are.
You cant be serious :DD
@@IMGreg.. I never said that poland was r tard. Im only pointing out hierocracy.
@@barbarosa3d239 serious as shit water.
So, I tried finding the "Global Debate" about dragons teeth effectiveness so I could shoot my two cents and guess what kind of debate I found? None! Zero! Zilch! Nada!
In the second world ware the dragons teeth were fixed into the ground not just sat on top of the soil. This is why the Challenger II tank was able to bulldoze them out of the way.
You were there??
Ukraine steadily moves forward as storm shadows hit the black sea fleet headquarters. Russia continues taking huge losses.
😂😂
NAFO shill
If so; why Ukrainian takes so long to advance 😂
Ukraine is advancing and russia is retreating and not even dragging their dead out with them
@@jerrymiller9039jerry is either ignorant or coping hard
They’re advancing a lot quicker than the Russians 😆
@@MarkNOTW unlike you I read the Budapest Memorandum of 1994 where Russia agreed to permanently respect the 1994 border
@@jerrymiller9039 here’s your cookie 🍪. The agreement has nothing to do with this thread; but even the US publicly maintains that the Memorandum is not legally binding; calling it a political commitment.
Not securing them to the ground actually makes it more difficult to get past if stationary you can bury them. Un secured even explosives will simply push them across the ground.
The problem is they present a point force to the base of the tank between its tracks. If you unroll a mat of steel pipes over them .. Its going to be a bit of a bumpy road, but its still a road.
...dirt's a LOT cheaper, bud.
Crimea is part of Ukraine and always will be
Nope. Ask the Crimean residents.
Nope
Ukraine should better surrender
Nope.
It’s Ukrainian!
Slava Ukraine!
@@MarkNOTW They will be when russians are not holding rifles to their heads and any that wish to live under russian rule will be allowed to leave
Glory to Russia 🇷🇺 it’s working so far Ukraine counter offensive isn’t working just more causalities and loss of equipment
Never undirestimate a defense.
Dragon teeth work if deployed correctly. Finland proved this at the Mannerhimline at 1939.
Today the Russians have deplayed Dragon teeth in haste without foundation and therefore they are smaller than normal and less affective.
you can't compare how the Germans built larger dragon teeth with the cheap Russian construction of small and miniature ones, the real problem for Ukraine is not that at all they can be easily pushed aside or blown up, the main problem is the millions upon millions of mines used in multiple defensive lines this is the real issue and even if they win the danger will still be there. however, they are using thermal imaging now and new countermeasures to identify them easily and quickly map it digitally so they can deal with it
for the record, it did not start in Germany it started in Finland 1938 so you can get your facts right they used large granite rocks and large boulders they did not look like teeth but similar with a jagged look
They work best when they are connected under the soil with large steel beams, try and plough through those connected by steels and you just wrap your tank up and can then not get out.
Can you defeat it? Yes, but you'll channel your force into the breaches allowing for easy kills by enemy artillery. So you must have forces beyond your rush taking out enemy arty positions.
The real story is how they got there in the first place. Where are they made ,and deployment is interesting to me. The engineering task seems to huge to contemplate.
Concrete and a wooden frame can work for Teeth that just sit on the surface. Fill the wooden frame with concrete, let the concrete dry, then tip it over and shake out the tooth. Repeat.
Or an Engineering unit in the rear is making dozens of them daily, and the resulting teeth are loaded onto a truck bed. The trucks drive forward, and drop off their load. From there, infantry 'roll' the tetrahedrons into a close-enough destination.
Nothing wrong with Dragons Teeth strategy at all - except these Russian versions are not anchored into the ground, or joined with adjacent blocks. The idea is that if a tanks tried to drive over or through them it will get wedged - and ideally they are supported with random mines and covered with some sort of direct or indirect fire to discourage engineers removing them.......what the Russians have done in Ukraine reminds me of a story during the 1956 Budapest Uprising, where dinner plates were painted green or brown and placed along roads - Soviet tanks couldn't be certain that they were not mines - and as they frequently advanced ahead of their infantry - slowed down, and sometimes were stopped - making them targets for various types of improvised weapons.
How much rubles did this video cost to produce?
Small slabs of poor concrete.. If not just pushed aside, then just 3-4 HE shells and the path is cleared.
The problems is the shit load of mines the orcs have placed everywhere.
You play a lot of video games.
Getting to them is still a challenge
These Russian "Dragons Teeth" cannot be compared to WW2 Dragons Teeth as they are Not correctly seated into a continuous bed of Concrete. This is why they can be pushed aside by Tankdozers . They should also be constructed in at least 3 different sizes , with the tallest positioned at the rear .
The dragon's teeth are pretty useless by themselves. However, they have some value if they are under fire control from other defences. The Ukrainians initially had problems getting up to the dragon's teeth defences, but such momentum as they have doesn't seem to have been much affected by them when reached. Furthermore, once breached in one area they can be rolled up from the flank.
Another question is the quality of the materials use in their construction. Russian contractors are notorious for cutting costs, including by using substandard materials.
While no active offensive has been carried out for several days, everything has calmed down almost everywhere. Too many ammunition depots explode per day, this introduces certain problems in the counter-offensive
@@struvrim7637 What ammunition depots exploding every day?
@@markaxworthy2508 You didn't know? This is in open data. For example on lost armory
@@struvrim7637 No, I don't know. Can you give us a link to "lost armory", please? I can't find anything relevant by googling "Lost Armory" or on TH-cam.
Dragon's teeth? That's a toddler's teeth 😂
Comparing WWII German quality to modern day Russian quality, one sees immediately that the Russian ones are far inferior. Their dragons must need quite a bit of dental work.
Who would think that they were indestructible I think the host is being super hyperbolic
I think the dragons teeth are more effective in Ukraine because there is a lack of air superiority or dominance, you would expect that Russian arty would have all areas of dragon teeth zeroed in which would potential be disastrous for the attacking force.
I drive a 2016 Mazda 6 (base trim-level), and I _GUARANTEE_ those would keep out my particular model of sedan, _but also nearly every other model of affordably-priced, factory sedans._
Hook a chain on one and simply drag it out of the way and through you go.
@@Islamisthecultofsin Bro, you have a lot more faith in my car than I do.
@@TROOPERfarcry It might take a 4 wheel drive to move it. You could hook your car up to a heavy log and see it it can drag it on dry ground.
So in other words, they do make a huge difference
From what I gather, Dragons Teeth are basically a concrete PITA and not much more.
"When Dragon Teeth is properly constructed and placed, enemy tanks, after breeching the initial concrete defense line, will be immobilized -- becoming vulnerable targets for artillery and other anti-tank weaponry."
If the enemy has recent satellite imagery, I wouldn't expect this to be nearly of as much a surprise to the tanks, as compared to an enemy without satellites. Given Ukraine's ingenuity with Drones, I wonder what would happen to those concrete barriers if they were doused with relatively concentrated hydrochloric acid multiple times? It'd take some time, sure. But with multiple drones on the job, perhaps not all that long. And they'd only need to remove enough of them to make a wide enough path.
All that Ukrainian could do it's small mobile groups or drones and missale strikes, defence always simplier than any counter offensive.
I'd like to see an engineer tip it over and give us the strategy of how they are designed I would imagine new ones have rebar or something in the ground
They don't, they are just lumps of concrete placed on top the ground. They are not tipped over, they are pushed out of the way. Easy.
Looks like a D Day Breach.. 1st maybe blowing up or softing up the teeths ... And Maybe You could probaly use a vehicle/ tank/ tractor with an extended arm with a plow and wheels/ maybe add a motor to give it more power along the frame to push the blocks and once through if there is mines it would blow up .. If it does not you can use the plow as a shield, maybe also have multiple Shields. As back up to extend the shield as a bunker or additional portable shield, detachable from vehicle and plow keeps moving on to use as cover and advance? While the mother vehicle gives cover. Maybe also have two running at the same time along each other to open up a bigger entrance. Doing that all over when breaching with the fire power it has might help them breach.
If they breach.. And its safer.. A vehicle can bring people in and spread out where it is safe.
Maybe soften them up and wait for winter snow and break through with snow shoes, maybe even with robots/ drones.. Salt and area so snow will melt and then let it freeze.
Maybe make a design 6ft bridge over it all.. Idk..
What if there are mines underneath each teeth?.
ONLY time will tell the fate of the dragons teeth.
Theyre useless if the russian is defending them but effective if other countries know how to use them.
Dragons teeth are meant to
1. Interrupt the tracks of tank by getting between the sprocket wheel if the track rolls over
2. If the main hull of the tank rolls over in the middle, it is intended to lift the tank up and exposing the underside of that tank to defending AT teams where they can put a penetrator to a weaker side of the armors
But if the tank has an entrenching plow well itll be just a minor inconvenience but not all tank is equip with an entrenching plow so for the defender a tank with an entrenching plow should be the first to get called out by spotter and targeted by artillery or other munition to prevent an offensive force to have a quick breakthrough
The other thing that is killing a lot of Ukrainians are the trench lines that have been build in the treed windbreaks between fields. They are harder to spot than formal trench lines running in the open through fields and are functionally equivalent to the French hedgerows the Germans too advantage of during the Normandy invasion.
At least some of the russian ones have been shown to be hollow and made of subpar material. Hedgehogs are more useful in comparison.
Not sure I would rely on russian sources for numbers of casualties on either side.
The difference is the Siegfried lines which we're set in the ground not on top
In WW2, the Allies just bulldozed dirt over them.
I really want to see this. Since so far, all the heavy equipment has not been able to get there.
Do a video on ditches. Is a ditch indestructible? Is there a way to cross a ditch? If you fall into a ditch, is it possible to get out again?
It’s not a Barrier, It’s a DECOY!
Other names for these dragon teeth is tank traps and anti tank barrier
Real Dragons Teeth anti tank defence, is actually anchored in the ground, because they’re poured reinforced concrete, which means that they’re almost impossible to remove, which is why the farmers have not removed them from their fields, even though they’ve had nearly eighty years to remove them……..
Whereas, these pyramids(which is exactly what they are) are just laid out on the surface, and so they can easily be moved/removed by almost anything that can deal with their weight……….
One idea might be a few steel I-Beams deep in the ground and designed to fit into a hole in the bottom of a tooth. So most of the teeth can be shoved to the side with a V-shaped plow, but then there is one tooth that stops the whole formation. Of course this relies on a full-length I-Beam set sturdily into the ground that is able to handle a tank running into it. I'd see these being useful vs lighter units rather than actual tanks. This will limit the options of scouting forces.
@@toddkes5890 . The best idea of all, would be for Puhtler’s criminal commie thugs💩🇷🇺💩, to piss off back home to russia💩🇷🇺💩 where they belong, and to leave their neighbours alone, that way nobody more needs to die, just for a tyrant’s vanity project, & that vanity project, only has one purpose, and that purpose, is to get the ability to oppress as many people, as he possibly can……
And, no matter what Puhtler💩🇷🇺💩 and his bullshitting spin Drs💩🇷🇺💩 say, they are using the exact same playbook, that stalin and hitler used, when they started WWII in 1939, when they both wanted to overrun and oppress Poland🇵🇱, which was just an attempt to overrun as much of the world as they possibly could………
🌈💪🏼💪🏿💪🏻🇺🇦Slava🇺🇦Ukraine🇺🇦💪💪🏿💪🏼🌈
Dragon's Teeth is meant to delay the advance, not prevent it. If you really want to push in you can, but by the time you clear out an area of these teeths and mines, Russia would have gathered large amount of intel already and could be preparing by then. So element of surprise will be gone. That's the real purpose of fortifications, slow down the advancement
The German dragons teeth alone the Zigfied line were all connected together by concrete bases. These Russian ones are a joke comparitively as they are just sitting on top of the ground and can be pushed away easily. It doesn't take near as much time to get thru as the German ones.
It's just another form of static defense... a force multiplier, but worthless if not defended.
Like castle walls before them, they have no effect against modern warfare drones
The dragons teeth would be far more effective if they were constructed two or more of them with the connecting concrete between them buried just below the surface, now the drawback to this is more time and effort to install, now the advantages to this is instead of just pushing them out of the way one at a time you would have to move two or more out of the way at once, not an easy task to achieve, just a thought.
Run a 10' cable from the bottom of the dragon's tooth to the triggering mechanism of an antitank mine. Every third or fourth one should be enough.
All the pictures of the Russian "dragon teeth" are showing that they are small and only laid on the ground with a crane directly from the truck.
I have seen that one of these laying trucks has an Italian Fassi crane and due to its design I can estimate the max crane capacity to 2,5 tons.
This means that these teeth alone will stop... nobody!!!
You can open a breech with a medium dozer without any problem !
The concept is in reality very effective when designed and constructed in the appropriate way.
As usual Russian are showing that someone take a good decision but realization is a bit problematic and maybe there are somewhere bakchichs....
For the Ukrainians the problem is not the teeth but the conjunction of the teeth with mine fields and the need to slow down in front of the obstacles and so be targeted more easily.
Russian have invaded Germany but retain nothing of what they had in front of their eyes.
Effective teeth are not laid but are going deep in the soil and for many, concrete was poured at the place, further 2 layers are not sufficient at all.
If you go to the rests of the Siegfried line in Germany or in Switzerland you can see that the design and construction has nothing to do with the Russian teeth.
I estimate that the weight of the Swiss and German is between 5 and 7 tons (not 2 or 3), the shape is rarely pyramidal but more complex and they are going deep in the ground.
Sorry Vladolf it's a waste of cash
it will limit in and out travel , and speed of travel and bottleneck travel . so it does seem to be effective to some degree for sure.
Dragon's Teeth are no a defence on their own, the key is using mine's and artillery to engage and disable equipment while trying to cross the dragon's teeth line, thanks for sharing
I bet those de-mining vehicles that beat the shit out of the ground really play hell with anyone's HOA-approved in-ground sprinkler system.