@@nazul9502 Still a fearsome vehicle and a historic one at that, most vehicles of war are scrapped, become hard targets or are smelted down so to some people it's quite upsetting to see something they served in being used like that
It's fully stabilised in vertical and horizontal,even the Cheiftain I served on had the same,enables the tank to keep on a target even when moving,that's real life not WOT
As an Ex Member of 1RTR of 16 yearsand been through all From Scorpion to Chieftain, Challenger, Eagle1 & 2 I can say it was the best job in the world. Don't knock it until you have tried it
keith birch than you for your service ! i’m looking to join the british army as a infantry soldier or a tank crewman , which would you recommend if neither . what role would you recommend
I Am Malin Bovington Tank Museum is in the main camp of the RAC. Lulworth Cove range is part of it. When I lived in Wareham, the town next to Bovi’ you could tell when they were live firing advthe windows would start shaking!
Armour is still great...But electronics and the power pack and running gear are getting old. Nead to up grade everything...Sadly Britain won't spend the cash. Main armament neads up graded as well...to use the new ammo. Sadly we rely on Nuclear Weapons which are a last resort not a first resort. And Russia isn't threatening anyone in Eastern europe...if they were we all would know about it. Just Lies.
CLEP is the upgrade, but there are no plans of updating neither the powerpack (although the oman CR2 version has the MTU euro-powerpack with 1500hp) nor the main gun, L30, wich is awful. If rheinmetall wins the LEP contract they may redesign the whole turret because the ammunition used in the rh120mm smoothbore L55 cannot be stored in the CR2 turret (as already seen in the CLIP in 2006). The british army even thought about replacing the CR2 due to its lackluster performance. Read: below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.de/2016/06/team-challenger-2s-upgrade-suggestion.html
That's the Lulworth range. The B3070 public road runs behind the firing spot shown. I have parked there while tanks were using the range. Very impressive. Haven't been there for while so not sure it's still possible to watch live firing. Worth checking if you're in that part of the UK.
@@cartesianoven2690 Rheinmetall upgrade is for 2a4 version. 2a5-2a7 remain. Can't wait for the next tank coming out between 2025 and 2030 with a Rheinmetall 130mm that is currently in development.
@@arvedludwig3584 Right? I think I heard it would be able to punch 50 percent more kinetic energy on AFPDS. Don't know if you have the same numbers or not.
@@cartesianoven2690 i forgot the numbers, need to look on the internet. When we talk about penetration, then surely it will have more since there is a higher kinetic energy. A proper response to the T14. It will have an autoloader too and the tank is a joint venture between German and French manufacturers. Other interesting thing will be the engine. Will it be a turbine or a diesel.
@@plant5741 Yes, I think HIMBIS AQUATICS is joking. 65 tons of scrap metal once Russia engages them. 65 tons in mud... No air cover, very little support. Dead man walking. I wonder if they will be ordered to stay away from the front-line battles so they aren't seen burning. That's very bad for future sales.
Best tank in the world best armour in the world , it has never been taken out in battle . Never been disabled and theyve took some shots over the years. Mega bit of tech
@@kevinbaboolal4225 to my knowledge, the only chally 2 that's been taken out was by another chally 2 in a friendly fire incident. Very unfortunate thing to happen 😕
Perú: I am Peruvian,Perú can buy Type 31 Leander frigates or another model, and we could also buy Challenger 2 tanks from England because they are good candidates for Peru. I will not comment more on military channels. I have already stopped publishing on military channels. because I am busy, that is why I publicize in this way, now due to future wars for water and natural resources in Latin America Peru must buy all kinds of heavy military material from any country in this case English frigates and tanks I would say they are the best candidates for Peruvian armed forces, Peru used British military weapons in the Cenepa armed conflict we used British Canberra fighter-bombers It should be noted that Peru shot down 7 aircraft to Ecuador and Ecuador shot down 6 aircraft to Peru, but Peru won because we Peruvians kept territory Tiwintza, returning to the theme of the Type 31 Leander frigates England offered Peru these frigates to replace the Peruvian fleet that is made up of the lupo class, consolidating renewal and to arm the Peruvian armed forces, I understand that it can be built in SIMA PERU, and Technology transfer can be done with Bae Systems, Cammell Laird, they are partners, they won an international tender in 2020, I understand that the cost of the Type 31 Leander Frigate is 350 million dollars, the FREMM frigates The F-100 Frigates of Spain are between 850 and 900 million euros It is not 400 or 600 million euros as some say, the FREMM frigates are very expensive from 700 million or more in euros, they are also expensive a cruise ship sank a ship from Venezuela coming from Navantia Spain, that is why the best candidate for the Navy of Peru is the English frigate Type 31 Leander is modern, it has good technology for the Peruvian Navy we must acquire when there is a budget later the Type 31 Leander 1, 2 or 4 English frigates, depending on the budget that Peru has and in terms of the English Challenger 2 tanks They are good candidates for the Peruvian Army and Peruvian Armed Forces. The price per unit is 5 or 7 million dollars. Its cost is around there. It has good armor, good technology, and is considered one of the best tanks in the world. It is also expensive, but it is a good tank, I think it weighs 62.5 tons, but it has a lot of armor and it also has real combat experience used in Iraq, the important thing is that it has been used in combat I think they have 148 tanks the country Oman also uses these tanks, hopefully Peru and England reach an agreement later and a new Peruvian president buys about 60 Challenger 2 tanks this would be accompanied by the construction of hospitals and schools, the United Kingdom is also the main responsible for the reconstruction of the North of Peru by British companies. Regarding the tank candidates for Peru, all tanks, whether new or second-hand, are expensive, maintenance is expensive, the Peruvian military has already said that they will never buy tanks from Russia again, Black tanks South Korean Panthers are expensive, they are 85 million dollars and on top of that it is very expensive to pay more than necessary and they still do not export to other countries due to their high cost, French Lecrerc tanks are just as expensive everyone knows that in France nothing is cheap, after Turkish Altay tanks no because a Turk refused to sell new ships to Peru in the Pacific war Peru and Turkey have a good alliance but when it comes to buying tanks or spare parts, components there could be problems with the Turks, Merkava IV Israel no transfer technology and there would be problems in the bidding and the Abrams tank from the United States not because everyone already knows the Americans, even though you are an allied country of the United States, they impose restrictions and prohibitions to all, Peru is an ally of United States, a Peruvian ambassador named Rivera Shreiber warned the US months before the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Peruvian was honored in the US now returning to the subject, that is why the best candidate for the Peruvian Army is the English tank challenger 2 Hopefully when Peru has a budget with a new Peruvian president, Peru buy Type 31 Leandre frigates or another model and name them Martin George Guisse and Miguel Grau, British Englishman George Guisse was the founder of the Peruvian Navy with Jose de San Martín The Englishman George Guisse fought against France, he also fought against Napoleon Bonaparte and later he fought against the Spanish,Another thing would also be good to buy Challenger 2 tanks and name William Guillermo Miller and Francisco Bolognesi, because the English William Guillermo Miller was the designer of the Peruvian military uniform of what is now the Peruvian Army, Miller helped José de San Martín to liberate Peru in its independence, Peru has a lot of influence, English doctrine and tradition, British Miller fought in the battle of Waterloo, and also the English Guillermo Miller fought in the battle of Junín and Ayacucho, which were very important battles for independence of Peru, here in Peru there are always magazines and a lot of information saying that the English empire supported Peru to free itself from the Spanish empire, that is, it is obvious that we Peruvians are accepting England and George Guisse as Liberators of Peru because if not in Peru we would not they would be putting a lot of information about this and would say that independence was bought, which is not the case, it is already proven that independence England and the English did many things for Peru, as I have said on other occasions, although Simón Bolívar is the Liberator of Peru, England, the United Kingdom, the English people, and Argentina and the Argentine people are also the liberators of Peru. Although it is true that Peru and England are enemies, I say this because the English, the Falklands War, the Pacific War and the Pacocha battle are almost always talked about. I am Peruvian, this is the user Bomba atomica Racso and T-Rex, go back to watch military-themed channels with this user, this will be published on military channels, the Peruvian government believes that in 1975 to 1978, the Peruvian government wanted to acquire a aircraft carrier to England when Peru could have declared war on Chile, the English government had no impediment and the English said that if they could sell the aircraft carrier to Peru, Peru had the English Canberra fighter bombers and the Hawk Hunter to attack Chile, the English demonstrated once again that Peru and England are allies, the error came later with Belaunde Terry, who put Peru in the Malvinas, which Peru should have been neutral to improve the military alliance between Peru and England. Peru must be neutral and never get involved in the Malvinas conflict again. In the Pacific War and England's supposed financing of Chile in the Pacific War, I understand that England actually financed Peru and Chile, but the traitor Prado did not want to fully arm Peru, that is why we stopped being financed by England, In fact, the Huascar ship from Peru was English, Bolivia was the only country that was not financed by the English, and England also retained two ships from Chile and Peru during the Pacific War, apparently England was neutral, also that Prado was of Chilean origin I betray leaving unarmed and bankrupt With very little weapons, we had nothing on us. Prado fled from Peru. finally england the English founded from cities, banks, companies, schools, Inca kola drink, they even made football popular in Peru among many other things, etc. Thanks to England, Peru and Peruvians exist without England, Peru would not exist, it would continue to be a colony of Spain. This is reality, everyone knows this, that is why England should be the new liberator of Peru, and make the English language official. in Peru in honor of England, Peruvians would speak in English and Spanish who knows this could happen in the future who knows because the reality is that England, George Guisse, José de San Martín and Simón Bolívar would continue to be the liberators of Peru, perhaps in the future England becomes the new liberator of Peru and history can be taught in schools and in all parts of Peru. Finally to add the British admiral Frederick Stirling, the French Du Petit Thouars, the Italian commander Labrano, as well as the ministers plenipotentiary of Great Britain and France, intervened to prevent Lima from being violently taken. You can see another support from England to Peru, in addition to Englishmen, Englishmen and Italians fought against Chilean soldiers in Lima, one or more Englishmen died in real combat and also Italians died in combat, also English sailors and Italian sailors landed due to the obvious attack Chilean. occupation in Lima, I understand that in the battle of San Juan and Chorrillos Peru used British Nordenfelt machine guns, In addition, it is all interests, in any case England supported Peru in the Pacific War I hope that in the future Peru and England improve the military and economic alliance Greetings from Lima Perú!
feeling these shockwaves is why some people are in the army. Cause it is all fun as long as there is peace. The fealing is great and helps you digest your lunch.
Very interesting, though it seems odd that its being compared to WWII tanks. Its obvious that it would be far superior, I feel it should be compared to its predecessors and its competitors. Though, it isn't much of a competition, I feel bad for any tank that isn't the Challenger II.
Yeah, I found that a bizarre comparison too. The concept behind the Challenger II, the main battle tank, didn't even exist until the 1960's and even then it was neither fully understood nor implemented. I also find it strange he mentions the Tiger as some German equivalent of the M4 Sherman or the T-34. Both of the latter were medium tanks and the workhorse and backbone of their respective armoured divisions. The Tiger was a heavy tank and only 1347 of them were made. The backbone of the German armoured divisions were the StuGIII, of which 9400 were made, the Panzer IV with 8800 made and the infamous Panther medium tank of which around 6000 were made. People frequently mention the Tiger as if it was common and as if had but a negligible impact on the fighting in the war itself. You're quite right about the Challenger II. On itw own and in a single tank vs tank engagement it might very well come out on top against any other tank in the world. However, as we all know, tactical deployment due to its limited numbers might be a serious drawback in any larger battle. Though fair enough those are become a thing of the past in today's modern surgical strike warfare. For the needs of the British army it certainly is ideal and without peer.
I would say these tanks from WWII are extremely famous and thus that's why they may draw comparisons between this and older tanks, for the sake of audience, not fact or fairness.
When in Canada in the Eighties (Batus) with the Chieftain a troop leader opened up on the Range Safety vehicle that had been left as it had broken down , made a right mess, he got ripped for quite a while 😁😁
I have no idea why the Australian Army bought the M1 .Apparently they didnt have Transporters to match so they had to buy those as well . Anyone know more fill me in
Actually , it's surprisingly quiet. There are a few vids around on YT showing firing from inside the turret. Outside, it sounds like the World just exploded!
May be old but absolutely insane the amount of power it can deliver its defo most accurate furthest range may have couple weak spots at rear and floor but no other tank is hitting this before challenger totally destroys opponent instantly guaranteed also at night over 70 rpg had hit this and still worked lol good luck 70 RPG would probably been a test and can’t wait until upgraded and Germany has invested just now in this monster lol
Pretty much any modern mint can get the job done well and while the challenger 2 definitely has a powerful gun it’s in need of an upgrade to a smoothbore gun to allow it to be more versatile and the Dorchester composite armor is probably the best in the world it’s engine is where the main problem is 1200 horsepower is powerful but the tank is far too heavy to have a weaker engine than most mbts like the Abrams or the Leo with their around 1500 horsepower engines
Smooth bore is better at shorter ranges but if you want accuracy with any type of HE at longer ranges you need rifled barrel. The British army wants versatility.
Sadly Hayden...with Britain we don't spend the Money? Everything moves on...The Armour is till the dogs bollocks but the gun and the electronics and power pack are now getting old. I was on Chieftain and Challenger 1. Sadly due to the improvments to Ammunition? The new Long Prenitators...(bad spelling i know...had brain injury in service....bad spelling) They can't be used on the Challenger 2 because they won't fit in the breach. The Challenger 2 neads to be over hauled. Everything moves on mate. We hadly have a Royal Armoured Corp anymore...all the cut backs and amalgamations over since 1993. No BAOR, NO 1 BR CORP Either. But i wish you well in your Carear mate. Served in the 4 Royal Tank Regiment and the 1st Royal Tank Regiment. Salute.
@@jamesglass895 I was in the TA in the early 1970s ( 21 SAS), loads of money for training, overseas 2 or 3 times a year, getting on regular army courses was easy, no problem with parachute training/ requals.. Now the military has been cut to a shadow of itself
Our tanks are bloody good as are the Brit crews. Brit armour plating is good too. Ask the soldiers about future warfare,? What arms tactics, drones, aircraft missiles , camouflage , electronics etc? You still need soldiers to take a territory, you still need tanks in my book, as you still need a navy, you have to protect sitting ducks.
So was my uncle, he was telling me a bout one tank been hit by over 70 rpgs and was still operational. Clearly was only one place I wanted to be when I signed up. Unfortunately they wasn't used in Afghanistan
Guy on youtube: "A fin stabilised sabot round" Any war thunder player or tank nerd: "Actually, it's an APFSDS 'shell', or armour piercing fin stabilised discarding sabot round
i consider this tank one of my favorites really powerful as armor it showed it in iraq i have a question is i hope someone will answer but if the challenger is hit by a javelin or nlaw at the top of the turret would it resist or be destroyed?
I agree, I think the Challenger has stood up really well over the years. But a modern anti-tank missile like a Javelin or NLAW would destroy any existing tank, including a Chally 2 or 3, Leopard 2 or an Abrams. Even mythical beasts like the Armata! They are just really, really good at what they do, which is penetrate upto half a meter of armour! A lot more than is on the top of any turret. This is why people are now looking at active defenses for tanks like Israel's Trophy system. Quite cool, but they do mean troops can't be anywhere near a tank that is being attacked, so it messes a bit with the idea of combined arms.
"massive bore of 120mm, its 50% bigger than the gun on the Königstiger" ......... for this, i did math..... once.... and 88mm*1,5=132mm...... 120mm > 132mm...... yup.... obvious troll
I had a look inside one of these when I was in Germany whilst in a Reme unit. We weren’t allowed to take pictures inside as it’s weapon systems is Secret.
@@johnnydiamondsmusic1673 Nobody mentioned taking photos home fella. I know for a fact REME had plenty of photos at hand in the repair manual for the technicians that repaired them 😉
Say that to the crew of a Challenger 1 (or was it the second one?) that got hit by HESH in Iraq... Commander and gunner both instantly dead after a friendly HESH hit the TC's cupola.
Oh, nice to hear the details, thanks. My point was that shit happens and in theory, anything can happen... but yes, practically useless. Still kind of usable against older western MBT's and all the left-over soviet mediums all around the world.
HESH would still be useful in some ways, as it sends fragments flying around the inside of the enemy tank which would easily kill at least 1 crew member
Sany0 hesh is used for lighter armour such as bmp's and btr's for example and also for bunkers and area targets, the coax would be used for transport vehicles such as trucks, and the sabot for heavy armour.
Why are they comparing this to t-34’s and Sherman’s? They are wwII tanks, this is 1998 when it was made to be used. Are they comparing them to old tanks because that’s all the British army used and still uses, and the British army always deploy mini tanks because the government doesn’t fund the army enough.
Pity we didn't have something like these in WW2. British tanks compared with Nazis Germany. A joke if it hadn't been such a serious business. Great video! Thank you. 👍🏻
In 1945 Britain actually had a far better tank than Germany, it was just too late to see any real battles. Tanks like the Centurion were just way ahead of anything Germany had, they're also still in limited use today
Old Abrams tanker here I love the hard targets on the range you can really appreciate the visuals on impact
Older Cheiftain gunner here,love the Challenger 2,sad to see my old ride getting blown to bits !
@@stevenbreach2561 well.. chieftains weren't exactly reliable.
@@nazul9502 Still a fearsome vehicle and a historic one at that, most vehicles of war are scrapped, become hard targets or are smelted down so to some people it's quite upsetting to see something they served in being used like that
@@devilishwolfie6975 i get that yeah
@@nazul9502 My old Regiment didn't have any problems with them. Just do the maintenance.
another reason other lighter tanks are a bit faster is there are running away from the chally
that turret traverse though
the turret is exited for the shooting range so the body turned to it lol
Turret didn't rotate at all after the turn. More like stay'd facing downrange inspite of tanks turn. That's gun stabilizer mechanism.
Can rotate 360 degrees in under 9 seconds.
@@wraith01mg 👍 and the driver can turn the tank without it effecting the turret
It's fully stabilised in vertical and horizontal,even the Cheiftain I served on had the same,enables the tank to keep on a target even when moving,that's real life not WOT
Why is he comparing WWII tanks with this modern tank?!
The full programme is about the evolution of armour. Can't remember the name however, but I remember it being entertaining!
peut être que la caisse provient du E100 de la WWII?
Because it's an example of how far tanks have come.
How he just says Panzer
parce que c'est le moins bon char en europe, avec le moins bon canon
RIMMER!
Lepwix mr brittas (if I've spelt it correctly lol)
It's strange watching Red Dwarf then this
I knew I recognised him!!
@@beastclarke: H
Hes Arnold Arnold arnold rimmer! More reliable than a garden strimmer! Without him life would be much grimmer! He will never need a Zimmer!
As an Ex Member of 1RTR of 16 yearsand been through all From Scorpion to Chieftain, Challenger, Eagle1 & 2 I can say it was the best job in the world. Don't knock it until you have tried it
keith birch than you for your service ! i’m looking to join the british army as a infantry soldier or a tank crewman , which would you recommend if neither . what role would you recommend
@@pedrofridge6537 Former US Army Infantry officer here. Although Bradley IFV was my experience, the only way to fly is GUNNER!!!
Lulworth cove range fired many times there. A very nice range.
Isnt that close to bovington tank museum
I Am Malin Bovington Tank Museum is in the main camp of the RAC. Lulworth Cove range is part of it. When I lived in Wareham, the town next to Bovi’ you could tell when they were live firing advthe windows would start shaking!
@@marcuswardle3180 I lived in bovington and my whole house shook when they fired lol
That's where I did my gunnery course for Scorpion and Scimitar whilst stationed at Bovington Camp.
Lee Woodford You went the ‘Purbeck’ then?
In my opinion the challenger II is getting a little old but its still is great and looks great too
Armour is still great...But electronics and the power pack and running gear are getting old. Nead to up grade everything...Sadly Britain won't spend the cash. Main armament neads up graded as well...to use the new ammo. Sadly we rely on Nuclear Weapons which are a last resort not a first resort. And Russia isn't threatening anyone in Eastern europe...if they were we all would know about it. Just Lies.
It's getting a life extension program. Keeping them till 2035 now!
CLEP is the upgrade, but there are no plans of updating neither the powerpack (although the oman CR2 version has the MTU euro-powerpack with 1500hp) nor the main gun, L30, wich is awful. If rheinmetall wins the LEP contract they may redesign the whole turret because the ammunition used in the rh120mm smoothbore L55 cannot be stored in the CR2 turret (as already seen in the CLIP in 2006). The british army even thought about replacing the CR2 due to its lackluster performance. Read: below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.de/2016/06/team-challenger-2s-upgrade-suggestion.html
The challenger 2 is getting upgraded
They just snatched land of Ukraine..
I love the fact that in the dark it had its hazard lights going.
Safety first! 😭
Worked on that range in the "90"s maintaining the small gauge track for the moving targets
That's the Lulworth range. The B3070 public road runs behind the firing spot shown. I have parked there while tanks were using the range. Very impressive. Haven't been there for while so not sure it's still possible to watch live firing. Worth checking if you're in that part of the UK.
I like the way the hazard flashers are running on the tank when it's firing.
The best MBT of all time, look at how the tank stands like a rock when shells fire there is very little recoil
its the best looking mbt aswell to be honest.
I really feel the leopard is just too good looking with the last armor upgrade though. But If war broke out, I would kill to be in a Challenger
@@cartesianoven2690 Rheinmetall upgrade is for 2a4 version. 2a5-2a7 remain. Can't wait for the next tank coming out between 2025 and 2030 with a Rheinmetall 130mm that is currently in development.
@@arvedludwig3584 Right? I think I heard it would be able to punch 50 percent more kinetic energy on AFPDS. Don't know if you have the same numbers or not.
@@cartesianoven2690 i forgot the numbers, need to look on the internet. When we talk about penetration, then surely it will have more since there is a higher kinetic energy. A proper response to the T14. It will have an autoloader too and the tank is a joint venture between German and French manufacturers. Other interesting thing will be the engine. Will it be a turbine or a diesel.
Only a Challenger 2 could take down another Challenger 2.
Or Russia.
@@mickmccrohon you’re joking right?
@@plant5741 Yes, I think HIMBIS AQUATICS is joking.
65 tons of scrap metal once Russia engages them.
65 tons in mud...
No air cover, very little support.
Dead man walking.
I wonder if they will be ordered to stay away from the front-line battles so they aren't seen burning.
That's very bad for future sales.
@@mickmccrohon you’ve got to work on your grammar because I have little to no clue on what you just said
@@mickmccrohononly an idiot would pretend his Scottish and fuk up the name so bad...
Best tank in the world
And best looking
don´t forget M1A2 abrams and LEOPARD 2A7
Best tank in the world best armour in the world , it has never been taken out in battle . Never been disabled and theyve took some shots over the years. Mega bit of tech
Who gave you that info? CR2s have been disabled in Afghanistan
@@kevinbaboolal4225 to my knowledge, the only chally 2 that's been taken out was by another chally 2 in a friendly fire incident. Very unfortunate thing to happen 😕
@@frosty-hi5jf Yep
@@kevinbaboolal4225 CR2 didn't go to afghan lmao.
and the slowest, it means dead on battlefield
Nearly 75 tonnes with its full kit on what a beast
No, 72
@@bikelifewill6483 that's nearly 75...
Remember going there many years ago and when they fired I thought the earth was going to split wide open.
Perú:
I am Peruvian,Perú can buy Type 31 Leander frigates or another model, and we could also buy Challenger 2 tanks from England because they are good candidates for Peru. I will not comment more on military channels. I have already stopped publishing on military channels. because I am busy, that is why I publicize in this way, now due to future wars for water and natural resources in Latin America Peru must buy all kinds of heavy military material from any country in this case English frigates and tanks I would say they are the best candidates for Peruvian armed forces, Peru used British military weapons in the Cenepa armed conflict we used British Canberra fighter-bombers It should be noted that Peru shot down 7 aircraft to Ecuador and Ecuador shot down 6 aircraft to Peru, but Peru won because we Peruvians kept territory Tiwintza, returning to the theme of the Type 31 Leander frigates
England offered Peru these frigates to replace the Peruvian fleet that is made up of the lupo class, consolidating renewal and to arm the Peruvian armed forces, I understand that it can be built in SIMA PERU, and
Technology transfer can be done with Bae Systems, Cammell Laird, they are partners, they won an international tender in 2020, I understand that the cost of the Type 31 Leander Frigate is 350 million dollars, the FREMM frigates
The F-100 Frigates of Spain are between 850 and 900 million euros
It is not 400 or 600 million euros as some say, the FREMM frigates are very expensive from 700 million or more in euros, they are also expensive a cruise ship sank a ship from Venezuela coming from Navantia Spain, that is why the best candidate for the Navy of Peru is the English frigate Type 31
Leander is modern, it has good technology for the Peruvian Navy we must acquire when there is a budget later the Type 31 Leander 1, 2 or 4 English frigates, depending on the budget that Peru has and in terms of the English Challenger 2 tanks They are good candidates for the Peruvian Army and Peruvian Armed Forces. The price per unit is 5 or 7 million dollars. Its cost is around there. It has good armor, good technology, and is considered one of the best tanks in the world. It is also expensive, but it is a good tank, I think it weighs 62.5 tons, but it has a lot of armor and it also has real combat experience used in Iraq, the important thing is that it has been used in combat I think they have 148 tanks
the country Oman also uses these tanks, hopefully Peru and England reach an agreement later and a new Peruvian president buys about 60 Challenger 2 tanks this would be accompanied by the construction of hospitals and schools, the United Kingdom is also the main responsible for
the reconstruction of the North of Peru
by British companies. Regarding the tank candidates for Peru, all tanks, whether new or second-hand, are expensive, maintenance is expensive, the Peruvian military has already said that they will never buy tanks from Russia again, Black tanks South Korean Panthers are expensive, they are 85 million dollars and on top of that it is very expensive to pay more than necessary and they still do not export to other countries due to their high cost, French Lecrerc tanks are just as expensive everyone knows that in France nothing is cheap, after Turkish Altay tanks no because a Turk refused to sell new ships to Peru in the Pacific war Peru and Turkey have a good alliance but when it comes to buying tanks or spare parts, components there could be problems with the Turks, Merkava IV Israel no transfer technology and there would be problems in the bidding and the Abrams tank from the United States not because everyone already knows the Americans, even though you are an allied country of the United States, they impose restrictions and prohibitions to all, Peru is an ally of
United States, a Peruvian ambassador named Rivera Shreiber warned the US months before the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Peruvian was honored in the US now returning to the subject, that is why the best candidate for the Peruvian Army is the English tank challenger 2 Hopefully when Peru has a budget with a new Peruvian president, Peru
buy Type 31 Leandre frigates or another model and name them Martin George Guisse and Miguel Grau,
British Englishman George Guisse was the founder of the Peruvian Navy with Jose de San Martín
The Englishman George Guisse fought against France, he also fought against Napoleon Bonaparte and later he fought against the Spanish,Another thing would also be good to buy Challenger 2 tanks and name William Guillermo Miller and Francisco Bolognesi, because the English William Guillermo Miller was the designer of the Peruvian military uniform of what is now the Peruvian Army, Miller helped José de San Martín to liberate Peru in its independence, Peru has a lot of influence, English doctrine and tradition, British Miller fought in the battle of Waterloo, and also the English Guillermo Miller fought in the battle of Junín and Ayacucho, which were very important battles for independence of Peru, here in Peru there are always magazines and a lot of information saying that the English empire supported Peru to free itself from the Spanish empire, that is, it is obvious that we Peruvians are accepting England and George Guisse as Liberators of Peru because if not in Peru we would not they would be putting a lot of information about this and would say that independence was bought, which is not the case, it is already proven that independence
England and the English did many things for Peru, as I have said on other occasions, although Simón Bolívar is the Liberator of Peru, England, the United Kingdom, the English people, and Argentina and the Argentine people are also the liberators of Peru. Although it is true that Peru and England are enemies, I say this because the English, the Falklands War, the Pacific War and the Pacocha battle are almost always talked about.
I am Peruvian, this is the user Bomba atomica Racso and T-Rex, go back to watch military-themed channels with this user, this will be published on military channels, the Peruvian government believes that in 1975 to 1978, the Peruvian government wanted to acquire a aircraft carrier to England when Peru could have declared war on Chile, the English government had no impediment and the English said that if they could sell the aircraft carrier to Peru, Peru had the English Canberra fighter bombers and the Hawk Hunter to attack Chile, the English demonstrated once again
that Peru and England are allies, the error came later with Belaunde Terry, who put Peru in the Malvinas, which Peru should have been neutral to improve the military alliance between Peru and England.
Peru must be neutral and never get involved in the Malvinas conflict again.
In the Pacific War and England's supposed financing of Chile in the Pacific War, I understand that England actually financed Peru and Chile, but the traitor Prado did not want to fully arm Peru, that is why we stopped being financed by England, In fact, the Huascar ship from Peru was English, Bolivia was the only country that was not financed by the English, and England also retained two ships from Chile and Peru during the Pacific War, apparently England was neutral, also that Prado was of Chilean origin I betray leaving unarmed and bankrupt
With very little weapons, we had nothing on us. Prado fled from Peru. finally england
the English founded from cities, banks, companies, schools, Inca kola drink, they even made football popular in Peru among many other things, etc. Thanks to England, Peru and Peruvians exist without England, Peru would not exist, it would continue to be a colony of Spain. This is reality, everyone knows this, that is why England should be the new liberator of Peru, and make the English language official.
in Peru in honor of England, Peruvians would speak in English and Spanish who knows this could happen in the future who knows because the reality is that England, George Guisse, José de San Martín and Simón Bolívar would continue to be the liberators of Peru, perhaps in the future England becomes the new liberator of Peru and history can be taught in schools and in all parts of Peru. Finally to add the British admiral Frederick Stirling, the French Du Petit Thouars, the Italian commander Labrano, as well as the ministers plenipotentiary of Great Britain and France, intervened to prevent Lima from being violently taken. You can see another support from England to Peru, in addition to Englishmen, Englishmen and Italians fought against Chilean soldiers in Lima, one or more Englishmen died in real combat and also Italians died in combat, also English sailors and Italian sailors landed due to the obvious attack Chilean. occupation in Lima, I understand that in the battle of San Juan and Chorrillos Peru used British Nordenfelt machine guns,
In addition, it is all interests, in any case England supported Peru in the Pacific War I hope that in the future Peru and England improve the military and economic alliance
Greetings from Lima Perú!
smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast :)
Legend
Best quote
Love how hes talking about the round 20ft from two firing tanks. Brilliant
What a guy 😭
One beautiful tank next to the leopard
Yes... top secret armor. Thank ya’ll. PLEASE don’t stop your armor (including mobile tanks!) development. God Bless the UK!
Before I even watch this...is that Rimmer?
It is your Smeg head!!!
That turret traverse is so fast
feeling these shockwaves is why some people are in the army. Cause it is all fun as long as there is peace. The fealing is great and helps you digest your lunch.
Very interesting, though it seems odd that its being compared to WWII tanks. Its obvious that it would be far superior, I feel it should be compared to its predecessors and its competitors. Though, it isn't much of a competition, I feel bad for any tank that isn't the Challenger II.
Yeah, I found that a bizarre comparison too. The concept behind the Challenger II, the main battle tank, didn't even exist until the 1960's and even then it was neither fully understood nor implemented.
I also find it strange he mentions the Tiger as some German equivalent of the M4 Sherman or the T-34. Both of the latter were medium tanks and the workhorse and backbone of their respective armoured divisions. The Tiger was a heavy tank and only 1347 of them were made. The backbone of the German armoured divisions were the StuGIII, of which 9400 were made, the Panzer IV with 8800 made and the infamous Panther medium tank of which around 6000 were made. People frequently mention the Tiger as if it was common and as if had but a negligible impact on the fighting in the war itself.
You're quite right about the Challenger II. On itw own and in a single tank vs tank engagement it might very well come out on top against any other tank in the world. However, as we all know, tactical deployment due to its limited numbers might be a serious drawback in any larger battle. Though fair enough those are become a thing of the past in today's modern surgical strike warfare.
For the needs of the British army it certainly is ideal and without peer.
Lewis Wright think because the programme is to do with old tanks lol think he's using it as just an example of where tanks are now
You need to watch the whole program, its about the evolution of armoured vehicles.
I would say these tanks from WWII are extremely famous and thus that's why they may draw comparisons between this and older tanks, for the sake of audience, not fact or fairness.
Lewis Wright Exactly what I was thinking. When I heard tiger, tiger II, sherman, and T-34 I was like wtf?
the challenger 2 is 62.5 tons
In War weight is is probably way over 70 Tonnes. With all the added on Armour...Heard possibly 75 Tonnes?.
The basic gun tank is 62.5. Megatron, the one with all the add on armour and other additions is actually 74.5 tonnes.
When in Canada in the Eighties (Batus) with the Chieftain a troop leader opened up on the Range Safety vehicle that had been left as it had broken down , made a right mess, he got ripped for quite a while 😁😁
Nostrils flared to maximum in true Rimmer style.
When you watch footage of the old WW2 tanks it's a very dramatic display, modern tanks just look solid
That’s a BAD ASS TANK!!!!!!!! Glad the Brits play on our team!
I have no idea why the Australian Army bought the M1 .Apparently they didnt have Transporters to match so they had to buy those as well . Anyone know more fill me in
Awesome machine from a former Zipper head, BUT I still love the scream of the Chieftan
Top secret armor......
3 seconds later"Dorchester armor"
Yea but we have 0 fuckimg idea what it’s made off, all u know is a name
@@danghj864 True🤔
@@danghj864 we have a rough idea of it's effective thickness though. So we can make some educated guesses
Actually the infantry is the backbone of all modern armies.
Infantry is tank fodder 😂
Of course its faster than m4 sherman and T34 If they had tech to make it faster they would use it.
yes.
Looks like Lulworth range to me!
It is lulworth
Nah fam gota have that sturmpanzer 2
Outdated by a long shot
@@trashpanda-sg2xh Outdated? You're a fucking idiot. The Sturmpanzer 2 is the most modern vehicle to this day.
Looks like a couple of shots 'bounced' off the target and didn't penetrate!!! What's the noise like inside the tank for the crew?
Actually , it's surprisingly quiet. There are a few vids around on YT showing firing from inside the turret. Outside, it sounds like the World just exploded!
May be old but absolutely insane the amount of power it can deliver its defo most accurate furthest range may have couple weak spots at rear and floor but no other tank is hitting this before challenger totally destroys opponent instantly guaranteed also at night over 70 rpg had hit this and still worked lol good luck 70 RPG would probably been a test and can’t wait until upgraded and Germany has invested just now in this monster lol
The only Challenger " knocked out" in combat, was a blue on blue error by another Challenger!
Never lost one in combat!
My sister's house is about 15 miles from this range.... You can feel the concussion from there!!!
Now how is that possible
Don’t talk bollocks!!
I was based at Lulworth, and our windows only just vibrated when the firing was going on, and I was a lot closer than 15miles!!
It's Rimmer off Red Dwarf!........or indeed the comedy actor and impressionist, Chris Barrie.
I love tank's and Challenger got the "Challenge" of keep the history of success
4:01 Imagine this is the ad from the manufacturer to the government
A beautiful piece of military hardware love it
Damn look at the size of that lower plate
That’s the Lulworth Range. All the times driven by there, never seen a tank that isn’t a gate guard or live firing. Dammit.
The bob semple tank can easily destroy this thing
The Bob Semple tank can easily destroy any tank
Bob semple is like dropping a nuke into a war.
Lol
No enemy tanks in reality can destroy this tank....But one of them almost destroyed a Sapper that fell off the back of it at 40 MPH.....
@@exsappermadman25055 r/wooosh you dingus
I think we can all agree that the archer was the best tank we ever made.
Nooooo chieftain
Centurion.
What? The one that had the gun facing backwards?
@@qasimmir7117 Yes, that one.
Pretty much any modern mint can get the job done well and while the challenger 2 definitely has a powerful gun it’s in need of an upgrade to a smoothbore gun to allow it to be more versatile and the Dorchester composite armor is probably the best in the world it’s engine is where the main problem is 1200 horsepower is powerful but the tank is far too heavy to have a weaker engine than most mbts like the Abrams or the Leo with their around 1500 horsepower engines
Smooth bore is better at shorter ranges but if you want accuracy with any type of HE at longer ranges you need rifled barrel. The British army wants versatility.
I cant wait to get in this thing just joined the royal armoured core best tank in the world I think!:)
Sadly Hayden...with Britain we don't spend the Money? Everything moves on...The Armour is till the dogs bollocks but the gun and the electronics and power pack are now getting old. I was on Chieftain and Challenger 1. Sadly due to the improvments to Ammunition? The new Long Prenitators...(bad spelling i know...had brain injury in service....bad spelling) They can't be used on the Challenger 2 because they won't fit in the breach. The Challenger 2 neads to be over hauled. Everything moves on mate. We hadly have a Royal Armoured Corp anymore...all the cut backs and amalgamations over since 1993. No BAOR, NO 1 BR CORP Either. But i wish you well in your Carear mate. Served in the 4 Royal Tank Regiment and the 1st Royal Tank Regiment. Salute.
@@jamesglass895 I was in the TA in the early 1970s ( 21 SAS), loads of money for training, overseas 2 or 3 times a year, getting on regular army courses was easy, no problem with parachute training/ requals..
Now the military has been cut to a shadow of itself
Good explanation. From Malaysia I will subcribe 👍
The C2 is one of my favorite tanks, but comparing it to WWII-tanks is a little wrong. An unseren Leo2 kommt das Ding trotzdem nicht ran ;-)
A little? Might as well compare them to WWI tanks :)
Structurally speaking in terms of armour layout, it seems to be a superior design compared to Abrams. Smaller and better sloping
Sloping is not relevant to composite armour. What you see on the outside is just a facade, it’s not how the turret actually looks.
@@qasimmir7117 And correct me if I'm wrong, but don't these new types of tank rounds make sloped armor ineffective?
Our tanks are bloody good as are the Brit crews. Brit armour plating is good too. Ask the soldiers about future warfare,? What arms tactics, drones, aircraft missiles , camouflage , electronics etc? You still need soldiers to take a territory, you still need tanks in my book, as you still need a navy, you have to protect sitting ducks.
My dad had been in a challenger 2 in iraq getting rpgs shot at it pure madness
So was my uncle, he was telling me a bout one tank been hit by over 70 rpgs and was still operational. Clearly was only one place I wanted to be when I signed up. Unfortunately they wasn't used in Afghanistan
Liam Blackburn are you thinking of joining the army
@@pedrofridge6537 i am actually in the process at the stage that im waiting to go on my 2 assessment day
Jack W good shit man , your gonna make this . what role are you taking
@@pedrofridge6537 planning on me being a armourer and yeah thanks man 👍
Guy on youtube:
"A fin stabilised sabot round"
Any war thunder player or tank nerd:
"Actually, it's an APFSDS 'shell', or armour piercing fin stabilised discarding sabot round
1:38 caught him off guard
It's stupid how he is comparing the Challenger 2 to tanks from WWII
Why?
Plot twist: The glass was a paid actor
I will always choose the Abrams on account of being biased, but Challenger is absolutely bad to the bone.
Is fear naught in one of those
Ayyyy forum lad
Best MBT of all time! Quick, deadly, accurate and has never been destroyed in combat to enemy fire!
@daAnder71 and the Americans didn't do that?
my favorite tanks when it comes to looks:
t90m
challenger
abrams
My favourite tank on looks t14 t90ms the t80 t72 then the challenger
I like this guys warm jacket. Can anyone tell me how you call a jacket like that?
It's an Irvin Jacket, designed for RAF aircrew in WW2.
i consider this tank one of my favorites really powerful as armor it showed it in iraq i have a question is i hope someone will answer but if the challenger is hit by a javelin or nlaw at the top of the turret would it resist or be destroyed?
I agree, I think the Challenger has stood up really well over the years. But a modern anti-tank missile like a Javelin or NLAW would destroy any existing tank, including a Chally 2 or 3, Leopard 2 or an Abrams. Even mythical beasts like the Armata! They are just really, really good at what they do, which is penetrate upto half a meter of armour! A lot more than is on the top of any turret.
This is why people are now looking at active defenses for tanks like Israel's Trophy system. Quite cool, but they do mean troops can't be anywhere near a tank that is being attacked, so it messes a bit with the idea of combined arms.
It probably won’t survive the attack directly from the top.
"massive bore of 120mm, its 50% bigger than the gun on the Königstiger" ......... for this, i did math..... once.... and 88mm*1,5=132mm...... 120mm > 132mm...... yup.... obvious troll
Happalula he is also talking about the breach size and barrel length not just diameter
he did say _almost_
How you EVER heard of: "rounding"
120mm is a diameter not a length so the calculation is pie x r squared.
88mm = 6082mm2
120mm = 11309mm2
Don't forget rimmer is a smeg heeeed
can this take on the merkava?
Did my trade firing on Lulworth good times.
I had a look inside one of these when I was in Germany whilst in a Reme unit. We weren’t allowed to take pictures inside as it’s weapon systems is Secret.
Who is/was going to repair them then?
@@Mk1Male smart ass lol! Reme technicians have security clearance. But that doesn’t extend to taking photos home.
@@johnnydiamondsmusic1673 Nobody mentioned taking photos home fella. I know for a fact REME had plenty of photos at hand in the repair manual for the technicians that repaired them 😉
@@Mk1Male oh ffs. A repair manual for the weapons system was classified. What the fuck is your problem are you calling me a liar?
@@Mk1Male en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_2000
Them darts remind me of the starstreak missile
Best demo of a tank EVER.😂👌✌️PERIOD.!!!
I don't understand why you don't show the target ? (:
without it it makes no sense
The tank that’s being fired at is the one for me not much damage being done lol
2:05 did that shell just bounce?
Yep. a) they’re only firing practice rounds, and b) the derelict Chieftains they’re firing at on the range are full of concrete so they last longer
What a guy 😭
Why the hell do they keep making comparisons with tanks from WW2?
Love how the bloke compares a third generation mbt to ww2 tanks. Bet it’d wipe the floor with an ice cream van too
what is maximum range to target
Brits certainly love the HESH!
That big chunk of metal cause by HESH is so big . i could imagine if the big chunk hit anyone in crew compartment .
That big lump of metal would certainly kill anyone in it's path but it's more often the smaller fragments that do the real crew damage.
Say that to the crew of a Challenger 1 (or was it the second one?) that got hit by HESH in Iraq... Commander and gunner both instantly dead after a friendly HESH hit the TC's cupola.
Oh, nice to hear the details, thanks. My point was that shit happens and in theory, anything can happen... but yes, practically useless. Still kind of usable against older western MBT's and all the left-over soviet mediums all around the world.
HESH would still be useful in some ways, as it sends fragments flying around the inside of the enemy tank which would easily kill at least 1 crew member
It's just not the same with Rimmer doing the commentary
Is it just me or are the shells going really slowly? Is it because they're test rounds?
Looks slow but they're very fast. Probably similar to a bullet, you just don't normally see it
Probably firing HESH about 700 metres per second.
Hesh isn't very powerful so it doesn't have a high velocity
Is that a challenger 1 hull?
Why is Rimmer in this video?
Rifled gun FTW, Royal Ordinance.
I wonder who will win in battle? T90 or challenger 2
Great tank for all times!!
is the hesh rounds still effective against the modern (MBT) tanks ???
Not really... HESH is mainly used for soft targets like Trucks, Arty etc, for dismounted infantry and fortifications.
Sany0 hesh is used for lighter armour such as bmp's and btr's for example and also for bunkers and area targets, the coax would be used for transport vehicles such as trucks, and the sabot for heavy armour.
COAX has been noted as being ineffective against modern logistical vehicles due to the rise of MRAPs.
Yes, it shakes the enemy tank. Bits go flying off and kill the crew in side
Its effective against russian and Chinese armour. And soft targets when used in the artillery role.
"Cowpat" lmao xD why not clay?
Why are they comparing this to t-34’s and Sherman’s? They are wwII tanks, this is 1998 when it was made to be used. Are they comparing them to old tanks because that’s all the British army used and still uses, and the British army always deploy mini tanks because the government doesn’t fund the army enough.
The main thing is to WIN, and the British are good at that
Pity we didn't have something like these in WW2.
British tanks compared with
Nazis Germany.
A joke if it hadn't been such a serious business.
Great video! Thank you. 👍🏻
In 1945 Britain actually had a far better tank than Germany, it was just too late to see any real battles. Tanks like the Centurion were just way ahead of anything Germany had, they're also still in limited use today
1:39 Are you standing on the trampoline or what?
A single Leopard II could literally take on 20 Tigers simultaneously and win easily. Tiger's 88mm shells could never penetrate.
Well duh, a 70 year old year old tank versus a modern mbt. Good job we have you Sherlock.
Its even taken 70rpgs and 2 modern anti tank rockets and still survived
have you ever heard of weak point ?
I liked Chris better in Red Dwarf, but this is a great video ☺️ K
Um, "secret armor", what if you blow a big ass hole directly underneath it?
God they sound nice
I love you so much Rimmer.
were was this video film to
JULYAN MOORS Lulworth ranges in Dorset