In fact it's difficult to a tank to go there because they have to be in a fcking traight line so if one dies the others are stuck... but still french army was complitly dum there xD
6:40-7:05 one of the most glorious 25 seconds of top gear history. The swelling Tchaikovsky, the tank appearing around the corner, the yelling of the tank crew. Simply Epic !
Yep, I loved seeing the crew callouts accurately portrayed as well: Loader: "Loaded!" (shell has been loaded into the gun) Gunner: "On!" (gunner has acquired the target and is tracking it) Gunner: "Firing!" (gunner is firing) Gunner: "Target!" (the shot has hit the target) Commander: "Target stopped!" (the target has been destroyed)
0:53 For anyone wondering, rifled cannons wear out more, so they have to be replaced more frequently, that is why smoothbore was invented in the first place P.S: I think the new challenger uses a smoothbore cannon
Not only that, but in terms of tank cannons, smoothbores allow for greater velocity and longer projectiles, hence why the Soviets introduced the 115mm on the T-62, and NATO (except the Brits) introduced the Rheinmetall L44 120mm/ M256 cannons. In addition, the introduction of fin stabilization on new ammunition types (APFSDS, HEATFS, etc) made rifling redundant and thus more of an inconvenience than an advantage. One nitpick though, smoothbore actually came first with muskets and older artillery, only going away in the 19th century with the development of rifling (technically developed in Germany in 1498) and the more modern cylindro-conoidal form. Only in the past century has smoothbore returned.
Smoothbores are also more accurate when it comes to modern fin stabilized projectiles like APFSDS and HEATFS. There's a reason the British are the only country to still use rifled guns, and are still planning to replace it with a smoothbore
I don't know about anyone else, but i do know that i myself is in face half of a armored vehicle expert, for about 5 years. And I am NOT self-righteous. I only comment on the things i know.
But does Clarkson realise that the Abrams fires armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot, and if the gun was rifled then the... Or does it fire high explosive squash head... No that's British... I've got no clue. It's because the gun fires a shell that can't spin it else it'll mess up
+Matthew Emmett Well yeah, but that's the point of them asking for the main gun. If they were allowed to pretend use the MG, it wouldn't even be a challenge.
for those wondering, almost every modern tank uses smooth bore barrels and the British challenger is one of the few remaining tanks with a rifled gun. this is mainly due to the ammunition used, the British use HESH rounds which are basically high explosives and can only be fire through rifled barrels. The advantage of smooth bore is the ability to fire high penetration rounds that stabilize themselves with Finns anyways, smooth bores are also more cost effective because there is less maintenance on the barrel required
@@errornamenotfound2513 I'm aware, read the original comment and mention the same thing to him. He basically mentions in there that only smoothbore guns can fire darts. I only said the Chally 2 here because that's the tank we're talking about in this instance.
About 70 Challys are about to be scrapped, sadly. The remainder are being upgraded with smoothbore Rheinmetall 120mm guns, among other things. Looks like the government read your comment ;)
They are a sight and sound to behold when you see them running in person. On the battlefield it was said that the enemy could feel the Earth moving upon arrival. Certainly true.
Yeah but the Challenger 2 is genuinely the best tank in the world. The yanks love to bang on about the Abrams but it just isn't as good, but they're Americans and love to blow their own trumpet
@@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire Everyone likes to argue that XXX tank is the best in the world and in my opinion its the stupidest thing ever. I love how blatantly hypocritical your statement is. The Leo2A7, Challenger 2, T-90M, M1A2C, Type 10, and more are all serve the purpose of their countries extraordinarily well.
@@t1e6x12 Yet all the tanks you listed are basically redundant these days when fighting in built up areas. Unless they have infantry and air support. In WW2 a Tiger could roll into a city and the weaponry able to kill it was few and far between. Today there's shoulder/tripod mounted rocket launchers that totally obliterate tanks. The mighty, multi million dollar, high tech, 70 tonne, multi crewed tanks obliterated by 1 or 2 men using a comparatively cheap, small, mobile rocket launcher. The tank is no longer the impervious destroyer it once was.
actually you might be laughing but in ww2 they fitted two water tanks inside the crew compartment one cooled with the radiator and one heated with the engine and a standard ration for tank crew included tea bags for making some
Clarkson makes dark German jokes involving Nazis, Hitler, etc and the Germans would laugh. Clarkson makes a simple joke about the M1 Abrams and Americans get butthurt. Too much pride that a simple joke hurts their egos and gets them riled up.
Well thats because germans know they have build great tanks, are confident and therefore relaxed about the topic and can have a laugh. Americans build ... well many tanks. But not really good ones :D
Will Coleman Actually the Challenger 2 has better armour than its older Challenger 1 cousin. Its called Dorchester Chobham armour and is better than the standard Chobham. The Americans have standard Chobham but with Depleted Uranium in it which is still very good but after time if any cracks appear and no maintenance is done it can be a health hazard.
tasman006 I know that the Challenger 2 has different armour.. The original M1 Abrams concept used the early Chobham that did not include depleted uranium.
Or an American Long-Range Subsonic Jet Bomber Boeing B-52 Stratofortress, a North American Aviation Single-Seater Turboprop Fighter/Bomber, a HMS Vanguard Armed with four BL Twin 15" Turrets, 8 Twin QF 5.25 Dual Purpose Turrets, 10 Sextuple 40 mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Turrets, 1 Twin 40 mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Turret, and 11 Single 40 mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Turrets. Those work pretty well.
@@56bturn Not even MGs, as he said, the turret can do a full rotation in 9 seconds, since he started next to them and went back, they have to spend 5 seconds at the most to turn, another 2 to lock on and 1 to fire and turn Clarkson and his LR/RR into a smouldering wreckage
@@jordanharrison9170 Jeremy had a good strategy for eluding a shot from the maingun,but the flexible machine gun would have scored hits on his car easily speed and agility is a good combination
Nah i think it was all choreographed. All the tank needed to do was turn it's turret at the start and shoot clarkson in the woods. Plus i doubt they would've just drove in circles around that bush. Great fun though
@@HRHooChicken ^ this. Anyone who's played WarThunder or GHPC will know that with a stabiliser, thermal, and a 120mm HESH round (as well as modern fire control systems), hitting that car would nnot be difficult, especially if it's sitting still in the smoke.
You people have got to remember something. In a real war situation 'Jeremy' would have been killed in seconds. But considering it wasn't, the tank crew had to tone it down, meaning the producers could actually get enough recording to make a viable episode. TL:DR - it was hammed up for TV
What i love about tanks is you really can not see the crew, so it looks like tank has mind on its own Especially in this scene 4:14, it looks like tank is saying this xd
because the British refuse to change the gun, they still use bag charges to propell their rounds whish is why they lose most gunnery compitions against other countries
No, what's important is how AWESOME the BBC Top Gear is! That as frickin' fantastic. Great composition and shooting too. Fun to watch as much as a neat match-up.
To be fair, the engineering and effort put into design a modern Tank is immense and in my opinion, more interesting since their is so much more to work on and consider. But its a matter of opinion and preference.
Sovient Assassin even mid-war tanks between WW1 and WW2 are fun to see since the concept of a tank was still in the air at the time. Take the Char 2C or the T35 for example. You can also see how the purpose of tanks have changed massively from WW1 to current time.
@@liamweaver2944 the worst part is that it does and it comes with the tank. it is being removed off the newer ones but most still have them and ww2 have one cold war have one.
Alexander Luis I want to be a Challenger 2 driver, or some kind of person in the navy. Ever since I had a tank driving experience the sheer power and capability has captivated me.
+yaseen reza You mean the same Chobham armor that's been used on every NATO MBT for the last 30 years? Chobham's just a formal term for Ceramic armor which has been in use for a while now. There's a specialty version of it on the Challenger 2 called Dorchester, but it's just a slightly different composition, not THAT much more protective. Most tanks get their armor protection from add-on kits that are configured for the theater they're fighting in and what they are expected to meet for resistance. If they expect a lot of RPGs and other high-explosive penetrators, they'll strap more reactive armor to the hardpoints of the tank. If they're expecting a lot more kinetic energy penetrators, e.g. armor-piercing heavy tank rounds, they'll add additional ceramic or metal plates. It's all highly dependent on what they're expecting. The most heavily armored tank in the world currently is the Leopard 2A6, at least in theory. The tank that has had its armor battle-tested the most is the M1A2 Abrams. I'm not saying the Challenger 2 isn't an exceptional tank. it absolutely is. It just isn't as well-armored as some of the other ones out there. This is, of course, assuming stock configuration for all tanks involved. modular armor packages change the game entirely and it really becomes a case of rock paper scissors at that point.
Im guessing that if I scroll down, there will be a lot of American and British people arguing who has the best armed forces. (Even though we are both very close allies in everything from entertainment to war) So I wont bother.
the tank and the crew could have easily taken out jeremy and the rover early on cause of the stabilizers on the gun, sighting systems and turret. Together with the special supsension allows it to keep the gun on target through pretty much any terrain andbe accurate. I am glad they didnt in the video for our entertainment, enjoyed the cat and mouse game and the tactics :D
Modern Challenger 2 variants can top out at over 73 tons with all armor packages installed, making it the second heaviest tank in service with any military. The #1 heaviest is Jeremy Clarkson in a Range Rover.
Suddenly, every TH-cam commenter on earth is a self-righteous armored vehicle expert expert claiming there are no armored vehicle experts in the comment section. I can't even find the self-righteous armored vehicle experts anymore among all the armored vehicle expert experts.
It should be noted that no Challenger 2 has ever been lost to enemy action. Did anyone else notice that Clarkson totally forgot he was supposed to get to the woods on the far side?
Lets be honest though they are pretty much equals on the battlefield. Just look at the stats of each. They both have relatively the same range, same speed, same armor, even the same type of gun. Three tanks are at the top of the board and you can arrange them anyway you want. Leopard 2, Challenger 2, M1A2 Abrams. It does not matter which one you choose because for these three it comes down to the training rather than the machine.
All in all, this whole comment section gives me cancer, why cant we all agree that our countries have the most badass tanks against like, I dont know Iran, or North Korea, or China. I mean we WERE allies werent we? Sure doesnt seem like it anymore.
Jack7296 Ummmm Victory day??? Both countries are very keen to publicise what they have in terms of military technology and power. It just so happens you are more western and therefore more exposed to western military showcases and propaganda. Whereas if you lived in Russia you would be exposed to their showcasing's and propaganda. I see both countries as being relatively equal in military power. However I am convinced that the USA has far superior military technology. Whilst Russia seems to perfect old technology the USA is delving into completely new technology. For example with drones.
@@Tyler76534 not necessarily. The Challenger 2 has superior armour, never having 1 ever be completely destroyed or seriously damaged by enemy fire, it can do about the same speed as the Abrams off-road even though it weighs more and has less horsepower, it's gun is far more accurate at range without having to use APFSDS rounds (the Challenger 1 with an older version of the L30 still holds the record for the longest tank on tank kill in history) and the 1,200HP Diesel engine is actually more reliable than the 1,500HP gas turbine engine, especially in the desert. The Abrams does have it's own advantages too. No tank is the best tank in the world, they all have their own strengths and weaknesses. Plus it wouldn't matter which was best because America and Britian are 2 of the closest allies in the world, they'd never go to war against each other because we share a lot of history together, hold a lot of similar values and have many of each others populations in our countries. The only people we should be worried about is Russia
Wouldn’t say best in the world but with some improvements it could be up there with the best. Just a shame how the mod had it built on the cheap and continued to refuse funding into its early life.
@@HJDore Indeed. It has the underpinnings to be the best. All they had to do was order a two piece ammo smoothbore from Alvis Vickers in 2004-05 and upgrade the sights.
@@qasimmir7117 by 2004 Alvis vickers was BAE Systems land, not that a two piece ammunition smoothbore would have solved the ammunition issues the L30a1 plague CR2 with in the age of the RH L55 family however they could have fronted the money and progressed with the lethality improvement program that would have seen challenger 2 receive a redesigned turret with the L55 smoothbore and perhaps even an autoloader.
“Now you see, what I’ve done, brilliantly, is hide behind these bushes, so I am protected from the high explosive rounds by the branches” Jesus Christ this is too good
Smoothbore doesn't mean less accuracy nowadays. Sabot rounds are basically lasers, so rifling just slows them down. Rifling also means you can't shoot rockets out of your cannon.
I've noticed a lot in the comments people saying how much more accurate the Challenger II is compared to the Abrams because it has a rifled barrel. At smaller calibers, rifling is definitely an advantage, but at 120mm in diameter, it isn't really that useful, and can even be a hindrance. It simply takes much more to cause a larger round to deviate than a smaller one. If you were to compare two proportionate bullets, one of which was twice the diameter of the other, you'd find that the larger of the two would have four times the surface area and eight times the mass. In ballistic mathematics, surface area causes an increase in deviation whereas mass causes a decrease (that is, surface area deceases accuracy, mass increase accuracy). As the mass/surface area ratio grows, the stabilizing effects of rotation shrink to the point of negligibility. The M256 cannon on the Abrams fires shells that are large enough that they do not significantly deviate, even at their maximum range. Something else is that rifling does have its flaws. Many types of shells rely on delivering a payload in a very particular way, and giving the shell rotation may impede its ability to deliver said payload. Also, rifled barrels tend to have much shorter lifespans than smoothbores, given the extra friction and pressure they have to deal with.
***** Don't call my my statements nonsense unless you can actually prove they're nonsense. And I wasn't explaining why the British use rifled barrels and the US use smoothbore, I was explaining why rifling doesn't have much to do with accuracy at such high calibers. Yes, HESH rounds can usually only be effectively fired from rifled barrels. Conversely, fin stabilized shells can typically only be fired from smoothbore barrels. As I said before, whether the gun is rifled or not limits one's choices in what kind of rounds can be fired. Also, the US does use HESH rounds. The only difference is that they call them HEP (High Explosive Plastic).
Yes, the British have a round designed to negate the rifling when firing APFSDS. An important fact that you left out is that that round has significantly lower velocity than the smoothbore equivalent. The velocity must be lowered so as not to risk damaging the rifling of the gun too much. Your "final point" is very confusing. You say that even extremely large caliber weapons are rifled for the same reason that smaller weapons are, but then you go on to say that it's not for increasing the stability of the shot. It's a self defeating remark. Anyway, I didn't say that rifling didn't increase accuracy in large caliber rounds, only that it didn't increase it significantly enough to make a difference. Thanks to the square/cubed law, large caliber smoothbores have a rather long accurate range, and most tank combat takes place well within this range. As you said, the British go with rifled guns because they can fire HESH. They don't do it for accuracy.
Yes the challenger is a little acurate than the abraham but the abraham can shoot targets when moving because the barrel can lock at an object and always point at it. If they use a abraham the rover would lose in seconds.
***** Seriously? It took you 20 days to come up with a single sentence? And it's not even like you're actually trying to refute what I'm saying, it's just a personal attack. That's the death rattle of an argument if I've ever heard one.
Challenger has Chobham level 2 armour. Which is classified. Only one of its kind because we will not share the technology. Every other tank has Chobham level 1.
Interesting story I heard was that Land Rover actually turned up to the filming for this with about 2 or 3 vehicles in case one went wrong. Clarkson turned up claiming he would break the car no matter what. Despite that, and the severe lack of any mechanical sympathy the car received, it actually, genuinely survived the whole ordeal you see in the video without issue. Pretty impressive stuff!!!
Thanks Top Gear for this amazing car review! I have bought the tank and it is a great family car.
No more traffic jams for you sir
Just click one button and you'll have a helicopter escort and empty streets
Very useful here in Syria where the road trips tend to get bumpy
You joke, but you can buy a decommissioned tank in the uk and the USA.
This you? th-cam.com/video/72Mkyt2m6uw/w-d-xo.html
"I've Read enough War Comics to know tanks can't go into woods" - French guy responsible for Belgium Border Defense - 1939
oscar to this man
You are a genius
In fact it's difficult to a tank to go there because they have to be in a fcking traight line so if one dies the others are stuck... but still french army was complitly dum there xD
Ardennes man! The British thought the same regarding Japanese armor in Malaya.
2:46 when bf5 anti tank sweats see a tank deploying smoke
"I'm fully protected from the high explosive round by the branches."
Clarkson predicted HEAT shell behavior in War Thunder.
Oh yes
Trees are OP
Oh shet your right
LoL right !!!
yup
6:40-7:05 one of the most glorious 25 seconds of top gear history. The swelling Tchaikovsky, the tank appearing around the corner, the yelling of the tank crew. Simply Epic !
Epic
Their classic EAGER tank crew voices that are IN THE MIDDLE of the hunt is the best thing.
@@РоманБекиров-с4м 1
Also enjoy the (I think) Aliens soundtrack
Yep, I loved seeing the crew callouts accurately portrayed as well:
Loader: "Loaded!" (shell has been loaded into the gun)
Gunner: "On!" (gunner has acquired the target and is tracking it)
Gunner: "Firing!" (gunner is firing)
Gunner: "Target!" (the shot has hit the target)
Commander: "Target stopped!" (the target has been destroyed)
"Now, it is really a very very good offroad car, but if you plan invading other country, use a tank.". God, i love british sense of humour.
Thing is, as someone who's half russian, half german, I couldn't agree more :D
It’s also funny because it’s true.
Germany: ja ja
@@gubadagoober ES WAR ES FESCHE *BAM* ~Hitlor, 1945
@@mhplayer may 1945
"Wha... he's going around in circles little ******"
lmao
"Im FULLY PROTECTED from the high-explosive rounds by the branches..."
Not so sure about that there, Jeremy...
i died at that part lmao
"But it then dawned on me that the branches might not actually stop the shell..."
Gotta love the British humour
"I've read enough war comics to know that tanks can't go into woods"
"Laughs in German "
“Are you familiar with the entire Second World War”
The only comment I am looking for
He talks about briish armoured cars not Panzers.
von Manstein: "I don't have such weaknesses."
6:44
_"If you're planning on invading a country, use a tank."_
What about a Toyota Hilux?
You mean a Toyota Corrola?
For the Hilux, you need to brush up on your "Technical" skills.
No use a multiplat: so hugly the ennemies die even before you entered the country
Terrorists use those all the time
@@РоманБекиров-с4м actually you guys would use more than the Su-34, but you'd add the Hinds, the Havocs, and the Su-24s, right?
I play tank games online so i'm a expert on tanks, to me that looks like a tank.
Not played a game with tanks in like 10 years but I agree.
Because you play tank games your an expert on tanks?
No I agree that it deffinetly looks like a thank.
Hmm, no I don't think that's a tank, it's a box with wheels on it.
Thats a plane if ive seen one
I knew tanks were intimidating before. But that smoke cloud and radar gun is terrifying! You can't see them, but they can see you. Chilling!
And now they are obsolete because of drones
God I love this lol
Matsimus Oh hai, this comment is underrated.
i agree.
The rifled barrel joke is underrated
I never thought I'd see matsimus here
Just has to say tank in the title and Matsimus is here.
0:53 For anyone wondering, rifled cannons wear out more, so they have to be replaced more frequently, that is why smoothbore was invented in the first place
P.S: I think the new challenger uses a smoothbore cannon
Not only that, but in terms of tank cannons, smoothbores allow for greater velocity and longer projectiles, hence why the Soviets introduced the 115mm on the T-62, and NATO (except the Brits) introduced the Rheinmetall L44 120mm/ M256 cannons. In addition, the introduction of fin stabilization on new ammunition types (APFSDS, HEATFS, etc) made rifling redundant and thus more of an inconvenience than an advantage.
One nitpick though, smoothbore actually came first with muskets and older artillery, only going away in the 19th century with the development of rifling (technically developed in Germany in 1498) and the more modern cylindro-conoidal form. Only in the past century has smoothbore returned.
Smoothbores are also more accurate when it comes to modern fin stabilized projectiles like APFSDS and HEATFS. There's a reason the British are the only country to still use rifled guns, and are still planning to replace it with a smoothbore
They are also better for firing HEAT shells
The British like to use hesh rounds, which need rifled barrels
@@ethanpinella3074 besh
He's not just making smoke, he's making tea as well ;D, Ah British tanks, having tea making facilities since 1945
Theyve had tea making facilities since the Mark 1 in 1914
And don't forget in africa you could cook an egg on it xD
Everyone loves the Beevee!
@Quadrant44 because they are only ummmuricayan
@Quadrant44 because they must be making hamburgers with cheese
Suddenly, every TH-cam commenter on earth is a self-righteous armored vehicle expert.
lol
not just that, most were born & raised inside a tank.
Suddenly, lol.
I don't know about anyone else, but i do know that i myself is in face half of a armored vehicle expert, for about 5 years. And I am NOT self-righteous. I only comment on the things i know.
But does Clarkson realise that the Abrams fires armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot, and if the gun was rifled then the... Or does it fire high explosive squash head... No that's British... I've got no clue. It's because the gun fires a shell that can't spin it else it'll mess up
One thing we can all agree on is that Top Gear is way better than Top Gear USA.
Eric Jensen and tea is better cooked with sugar in it served cold over ice. 😉
Watching my dog coiling one out is better than Top Gear USA.
the original top gear (UK) is the best hands down for sure
jeremy stewert excuse me w h a t
Cause it's British 🤟 just kidding Britain is shit 😐
well there go my weekend plans of invading a country with a 2002 Range Rover.
I have a spare Challenger but due to coronavirus I had to cancel too.
@@bone4crusher919 I had a spare discovery and was planning on exploring the Amazon, turns out someone already did that. They faked it though
Try Belgium?
In reality they wouldn't even have to use the main gun. The GPMG on the top would have made short work of the Range Rover.
+Matthew Emmett Well yeah, but that's the point of them asking for the main gun. If they were allowed to pretend use the MG, it wouldn't even be a challenge.
+ParadoxalObserver Or you could just get out of the tank and shoot him with your sidearm.
+Justin kam No. that would be dumb.
It would also be more practical than wasting a tank shell or even 50 caliber shots. 9mm Parabellum will still go right through it.
A 9mm handgun has an effective range of about 30m, maximum 50m. The man in the car would have a very high chance of escaping in that instance.
for those wondering, almost every modern tank uses smooth bore barrels and the British challenger is one of the few remaining tanks with a rifled gun. this is mainly due to the ammunition used, the British use HESH rounds which are basically high explosives and can only be fire through rifled barrels. The advantage of smooth bore is the ability to fire high penetration rounds that stabilize themselves with Finns anyways, smooth bores are also more cost effective because there is less maintenance on the barrel required
Isn't the Chally's gun also a bagged charge gun as well?
You forget that the Chally 2 can also fire darts like a smoothbore gun . . .
@@thatguyonyoutubemk2746 every tank does..
@@errornamenotfound2513 I'm aware, read the original comment and mention the same thing to him.
He basically mentions in there that only smoothbore guns can fire darts.
I only said the Chally 2 here because that's the tank we're talking about in this instance.
About 70 Challys are about to be scrapped, sadly.
The remainder are being upgraded with smoothbore Rheinmetall 120mm guns, among other things. Looks like the government read your comment ;)
When *Top Gear* was still *Top Gear.*
when Top Gear was yah know good
That tank is terrifying. Just the noise it makes alone is chilling.
They are a sight and sound to behold when you see them running in person. On the battlefield it was said that the enemy could feel the Earth moving upon arrival. Certainly true.
@@qasimmir7117As long as it's not running at me, I'm good. I wouldn't want any part of those things.
Goliath and David... Beckham hahahahah
lol
He predicted the Evoque
What is funny is whatever the tank video you watch, it's always the fastest in the world.
*Fastest... in the world.
Yeah, just like the Typhoon was the best fighter jet in the world... You have to forgive Jeremy, he likes British things :)
Yeah but the Challenger 2 is genuinely the best tank in the world. The yanks love to bang on about the Abrams but it just isn't as good, but they're Americans and love to blow their own trumpet
@@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire Everyone likes to argue that XXX tank is the best in the world and in my opinion its the stupidest thing ever. I love how blatantly hypocritical your statement is. The Leo2A7, Challenger 2, T-90M, M1A2C, Type 10, and more are all serve the purpose of their countries extraordinarily well.
@@t1e6x12 Yet all the tanks you listed are basically redundant these days when fighting in built up areas. Unless they have infantry and air support. In WW2 a Tiger could roll into a city and the weaponry able to kill it was few and far between. Today there's shoulder/tripod mounted rocket launchers that totally obliterate tanks. The mighty, multi million dollar, high tech, 70 tonne, multi crewed tanks obliterated by 1 or 2 men using a comparatively cheap, small, mobile rocket launcher. The tank is no longer the impervious destroyer it once was.
British tanks are better because they can make tea
actually you might be laughing but in ww2 they fitted two water tanks inside the crew compartment one cooled with the radiator and one heated with the engine and a standard ration for tank crew included tea bags for making some
Yeah it's called a boiling vessel; it's been implemented into every tank since the Centurion (which is from 1945)
french have mirrors so they can see the battle and Canadians are slightly thinner at the bottom so they dont hurt anyone
lmao
Russian tanks have space for communist propaganda posters and altars in the name of putin
The tank crew must have had such fun doing that!
2:10 his face when he realizes how quickly the turret can turn is just priceless!
"Oh no, I seem to have brought puff daddy's car..... to the SOMME!"
That actually must have been an interesting exercise for the tank crew.
Yeah, it's not every day you get to try and chase a car down
6:40 *Me running away from Valve HQ after stealing a copy of Team Fortress 3*
Alternative title: me running away from Valve HQ after stealing a copy of Half Life 3
a cultured man
POV: We have taken the enemy Intelligence
"one times Clarkson destroyed"
I like how they play along
I'd love to believe that the producers has multiple clones of the Jeremy, James and Richard and every death was a real one
Clarkson makes dark German jokes involving Nazis, Hitler, etc and the Germans would laugh. Clarkson makes a simple joke about the M1 Abrams and Americans get butthurt. Too much pride that a simple joke hurts their egos and gets them riled up.
Well thats because germans know they have build great tanks, are confident and therefore relaxed about the topic and can have a laugh. Americans build ... well many tanks. But not really good ones :D
13thSystem Well, fun fact: The gun on M1 Abrams is german made :P
RevanBladeZ Joint program between the British, Germans and Americans.. The armour is British and the gun is German.
Will Coleman Actually the Challenger 2 has better armour than its older Challenger 1 cousin. Its called Dorchester Chobham armour and is better than the standard Chobham. The Americans have standard Chobham but with Depleted Uranium in it which is still very good but after time if any cracks appear and no maintenance is done it can be a health hazard.
tasman006 I know that the Challenger 2 has different armour.. The original M1 Abrams concept used the early Chobham that did not include depleted uranium.
"If you are planning on invading another country, use a tank"
~Jeremy Clarkson's Last Words
Or an American Long-Range Subsonic Jet Bomber Boeing B-52 Stratofortress, a North American Aviation Single-Seater Turboprop Fighter/Bomber, a HMS Vanguard Armed with four BL Twin 15" Turrets, 8 Twin QF 5.25 Dual Purpose Turrets, 10 Sextuple 40 mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Turrets, 1 Twin 40 mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Turret, and 11 Single 40 mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Turrets. Those work pretty well.
US marines be like "best I can do is humvee"
@@nicojokelin5547 I'll take your entire stock
"So here we are on the start line, Goliath. And David. Beckham."
LOL, he'd be dead in the first 10 seconds...
+SD Customs If they were allowed to use the MGs, yes.
@@56bturn Not even MGs, as he said, the turret can do a full rotation in 9 seconds, since he started next to them and went back, they have to spend 5 seconds at the most to turn, another 2 to lock on and 1 to fire and turn Clarkson and his LR/RR into a smouldering wreckage
@@jordanharrison9170 Jeremy had a good strategy for eluding a shot from the maingun,but the flexible machine gun would have scored hits on his car easily speed and agility is a good combination
But what madman would want to blow up Jeremy Clarkson with a tank?
Absölute Unit69 James probably
6:50 Tank be like: HERE'S JOHNNY!
Can it outrun a *120 METER TANK SHELL!?!*
@@leonides1527 nopr
@@leonides1527 MILLIMETER! 120 meters is about half the length of the entire gun
@@filmandfirearms No no no 120 meters is about the length of the entire tank! Not just the gun!
@@filmandfirearmsno millimeters not meters
It’s the caliber of the gun
5:02 and 6:49 are such great shots. The old top gear had some of the best camera work ever!
I like how the actual tank looked confused when Jeremey left circling the bush
Can we appreciate how well Clarkson actually did?
We can, I was actually fairly impressed how long he lasted.
Didn't die in the first 30 seconds of getting within line of sight? Success
I believe they also had the stabiliser off, because the way the turret moved with the tank and bounced up and down
Nah i think it was all choreographed. All the tank needed to do was turn it's turret at the start and shoot clarkson in the woods. Plus i doubt they would've just drove in circles around that bush. Great fun though
@@HRHooChicken ^ this. Anyone who's played WarThunder or GHPC will know that with a stabiliser, thermal, and a 120mm HESH round (as well as modern fire control systems), hitting that car would nnot be difficult, especially if it's sitting still in the smoke.
You people have got to remember something. In a real war situation 'Jeremy' would have been killed in seconds. But considering it wasn't, the tank crew had to tone it down, meaning the producers could actually get enough recording to make a viable episode.
TL:DR - it was hammed up for TV
Tom K So? It was entertaining, and if it was realistic it would not have been so.
Itypecommentssometimes That's what I was trying to say. I was addressing the people criticizing the quality of our armed forces.
yup true
plus they just can't kill him lwgally
+Tom K So are cars are crap? jk
4:07 "cause I can out turn you sunshine" we're talking about a tank here... something that has a turning radios of 0 degrees
Joshua Marshman 0 degrees at a standstill. Not in motion, and definitely at at 30+ mph.
It may turn on the spot, but it doesn't turn quickly regardless
@@JohnsonTheSecond neutral steering.
@@TacticalPhoenixYT , but it doesn't turn quickly regardless
@@JohnsonTheSecond it does have a high power to weight ratio tho. Also they can turn their turret while neutral steering.
lol if this was a real scenario the Challenger would have blown up that Range Rover 100 times over already XD
+BryanFDNY he was blown up- 6:58.
+BryanFDNY Yup, the thank could have chilled and shoot him down the range, no problem at all...
@Warface used to be good. Now it is retarded. and cause they have common sense
No because challenger would still use hesh shells x) and only damage the rearend of the car bruh
@@mhplayer ahem. 80 grams of explosive filler.
its amazing how agile the challenger 2 is
nothing says playing WOT or WT can make you a tank expert
Those make you both experts
and armored warfare? it has these tanks...
Red Menace
Satan a
you can still learn a lot from them
"Goliath and David....Beckham" LOL!
LoL....I think I missed the ''Beckham'' part in the bible..Gotta go read it again.
"Rifled for greater accuracy." I can immediately tell that it wasn't just my Jimmies that were rustled with that statement xD
Definitely not just you, I addressed it in a comment.
At a point in time it wasn't that untrue, but yes eventually smoothbore got good enough to really make the difference.
4:13 Mighty Jingle's 'runny runny, chasy chasy, catchy catchy, kissy kissy'
What i love about tanks is you really can not see the crew, so it looks like tank has mind on its own
Especially in this scene 4:14, it looks like tank is saying this xd
That gunner is now nearly in his 40s... damn I feel old x) I miss old Top Gear, was a good ride
Shots fired at the American tanks not having rifelling 😂
because the British refuse to change the gun, they still use bag charges to propell their rounds whish is why they lose most gunnery compitions against other countries
Actually they are changing to smooth bore so they can use a lot more rounds
And the smooth bore happens to interchangeable on the Challenger 2 ATDU, which happens to be a 140mm barrel being developed
射命丸文 Basically spray and pray :D
TheFlyingBucket yup :D
No, what's important is how AWESOME the BBC Top Gear is!
That as frickin' fantastic.
Great composition and shooting too. Fun to watch as much as a neat match-up.
I just love the shot of the Land Rover going down a road and the challenger tank just comes in.
‘Come on, hit him now!’
I like how people are interested more in the tank than the Range Rover
Who doesn't love a challenge.
To be fair, the engineering and effort put into design a modern Tank is immense and in my opinion, more interesting since their is so much more to work on and consider. But its a matter of opinion and preference.
Sovient Assassin even mid-war tanks between WW1 and WW2 are fun to see since the concept of a tank was still in the air at the time. Take the Char 2C or the T35 for example. You can also see how the purpose of tanks have changed massively from WW1 to current time.
F*ck the Range Rover we want a FV4034 Challenger Mk II Third Generation British Main Battle Tank! (Yes I looked it up, so don't ask)
Asriel Dreemurr I’d rather have a Leopard 2a5 or an Strv 122.
Challenger 2 chasing a Range Rover. Now this is porn I want to watch!
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I agree 'attack the D point'
Osmo 454 Pardon me, I wasn’t sure if this was a joke or not, but does the Challenger 2 actually come with a tea kettle? (Please don’t r/wooosh me!)
@@liamweaver2944 the worst part is that it does and it comes with the tank. it is being removed off the newer ones but most still have them and ww2 have one cold war have one.
Everybody here is arguing about Leopard vs T90 vs M1a2 vs Challenger2 and I'm just sitting here smug about Challenger's chobham armour
Challenger 2 isn't the fastest but it has the most armour, I'll be driving one soon, in 4 years time
Alexander Luis nice! Good luck with training and whatnot sir!
Thanks mate.
Alexander Luis I want to be a Challenger 2 driver, or some kind of person in the navy. Ever since I had a tank driving experience the sheer power and capability has captivated me.
+yaseen reza You mean the same Chobham armor that's been used on every NATO MBT for the last 30 years? Chobham's just a formal term for Ceramic armor which has been in use for a while now. There's a specialty version of it on the Challenger 2 called Dorchester, but it's just a slightly different composition, not THAT much more protective. Most tanks get their armor protection from add-on kits that are configured for the theater they're fighting in and what they are expected to meet for resistance. If they expect a lot of RPGs and other high-explosive penetrators, they'll strap more reactive armor to the hardpoints of the tank. If they're expecting a lot more kinetic energy penetrators, e.g. armor-piercing heavy tank rounds, they'll add additional ceramic or metal plates. It's all highly dependent on what they're expecting.
The most heavily armored tank in the world currently is the Leopard 2A6, at least in theory. The tank that has had its armor battle-tested the most is the M1A2 Abrams. I'm not saying the Challenger 2 isn't an exceptional tank. it absolutely is. It just isn't as well-armored as some of the other ones out there. This is, of course, assuming stock configuration for all tanks involved. modular armor packages change the game entirely and it really becomes a case of rock paper scissors at that point.
Im guessing that if I scroll down, there will be a lot of American and British people arguing who has the best armed forces.
(Even though we are both very close allies in everything from entertainment to war)
So I wont bother.
TimeLimey hello time lord
It's okay. Us New Zealanders take the mantle for number one special ops. So both British and America equally suck.
@KrazyKiwi no one can defeat an army of kiwis!!
@@lordbucketheadpolling5824 How about the time when Eggs thrown at the Bismarck stunned the A gun after hitting the B gun?
@Linas Krulikauskas not sure
the tank and the crew could have easily taken out jeremy and the rover early on cause of the stabilizers on the gun, sighting systems and turret. Together with the special supsension allows it to keep the gun on target through pretty much any terrain andbe accurate. I am glad they didnt in the video for our entertainment, enjoyed the cat and mouse game and the tactics :D
They used the Aliens soundtrack for this bit. It's perfect.
"He's going in circles, the little " LOL
2:18
"Ive read enough that tanks can't go through woods."
*cough*
1940 Spring Ardennes Offensive
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They basically summarized why you CANNOT OUTRUN A PANZER BATTALION
Modern Challenger 2 variants can top out at over 73 tons with all armor packages installed, making it the second heaviest tank in service with any military.
The #1 heaviest is Jeremy Clarkson in a Range Rover.
4:06-4:40 Priceless, especially since I have a few juicy guesses as to which bleeped derogatory the tank commander dropped.
06:48 "Git back 'ere ya' tosser! I'm not done with you yet!"
I love this review, it just goes so in depth... I have chose the tank and it can fit the whole family!
Suddenly, every TH-cam commenter on earth is a self-righteous armored vehicle expert expert claiming there are no armored vehicle experts in the comment section.
I can't even find the self-righteous armored vehicle experts anymore among all the armored vehicle expert experts.
It should be noted that no Challenger 2 has ever been lost to enemy action.
Did anyone else notice that Clarkson totally forgot he was supposed to get to the woods on the far side?
4:42 the tank looks so confused
I love top gear because I can’t tell if I’m meant to be impressed by the tank or the Land Rover.
Can we just appreciate just how good that range rover sport is?
Can we stop with the "can we just appreciate" comments 🙄
Anyone else seeing more British comment on Americans complaining, than the actual amount of Americans complaining?
Oh no you need to scroll down really far the Americans have been shut up
it's usually like this
Yeah, I see a lot more people whining and having meltdowns over the Americans but I dont nearly as many on the American side.
Lets be honest though they are pretty much equals on the battlefield. Just look at the stats of each. They both have relatively the same range, same speed, same armor, even the same type of gun. Three tanks are at the top of the board and you can arrange them anyway you want. Leopard 2, Challenger 2, M1A2 Abrams. It does not matter which one you choose because for these three it comes down to the training rather than the machine.
"If you're planning on invading another country, use a tank."
~JEREMY CLARKSON.
All in all, this whole comment section gives me cancer, why cant we all agree that our countries have the most badass tanks against like, I dont know Iran, or North Korea, or China. I mean we WERE allies werent we? Sure doesnt seem like it anymore.
Let's face it Russia has the best technology in the world, scary thing is they don't publicise what they like unlike the Americans
Jack7296 Ummmm Victory day???
Both countries are very keen to publicise what they have in terms of military technology and power.
It just so happens you are more western and therefore more exposed to western military showcases and propaganda. Whereas if you lived in Russia you would be exposed to their showcasing's and propaganda.
I see both countries as being relatively equal in military power. However I am convinced that the USA has far superior military technology. Whilst Russia seems to perfect old technology the USA is delving into completely new technology. For example with drones.
Yeah but the M1Abram is the worlds best tank which has good ol American engineering
@@Tyler76534 not necessarily. The Challenger 2 has superior armour, never having 1 ever be completely destroyed or seriously damaged by enemy fire, it can do about the same speed as the Abrams off-road even though it weighs more and has less horsepower, it's gun is far more accurate at range without having to use APFSDS rounds (the Challenger 1 with an older version of the L30 still holds the record for the longest tank on tank kill in history) and the 1,200HP Diesel engine is actually more reliable than the 1,500HP gas turbine engine, especially in the desert. The Abrams does have it's own advantages too. No tank is the best tank in the world, they all have their own strengths and weaknesses. Plus it wouldn't matter which was best because America and Britian are 2 of the closest allies in the world, they'd never go to war against each other because we share a lot of history together, hold a lot of similar values and have many of each others populations in our countries. The only people we should be worried about is Russia
@@Tyler76534 not for long
That is some awesome tank. Super fast, super agile on very rough ground and all while having a brew. Best in the world.
Wouldn’t say best in the world but with some improvements it could be up there with the best. Just a shame how the mod had it built on the cheap and continued to refuse funding into its early life.
@@HJDore
Indeed. It has the underpinnings to be the best. All they had to do was order a two piece ammo smoothbore from Alvis Vickers in 2004-05 and upgrade the sights.
@@qasimmir7117 by 2004 Alvis vickers was BAE Systems land, not that a two piece ammunition smoothbore would have solved the ammunition issues the L30a1 plague CR2 with in the age of the RH L55 family however they could have fronted the money and progressed with the lethality improvement program that would have seen challenger 2 receive a redesigned turret with the L55 smoothbore and perhaps even an autoloader.
Me: **drives by to see a tank chasing car** I wonder if he never lost the cops when he signed outta gta
The Challenger just sounds AMAZING. That engine is so powerful.
This was a great car review comparison. The tank makes terrible mileage but at least I don't have to endure traffic
“I seem to have brought Puff Daddy’s car _to the Somme!_"
Favorite line, “I appear to of brought puff daddy’s car to the SOMME”
The crew is legendary. Still a joy to watch after so many years
"Over rough ground,the Challenger 2 is the fastest tank in the world"
*laughs in Russian*
Laughs in Leopard 2
JK
Bob Semple tank is best in the world
@Brendan Mohney I think we were talking about modern tanks, and I don't think the Hellcat is the fastest tank ever now? not sure though.
Laughs in French leclerc
People normally think tanks are slow but really they are pretty quick
7:04 when you die and get to heaven
“Now you see, what I’ve done, brilliantly, is hide behind these bushes, so I am protected from the high explosive rounds by the branches” Jesus Christ this is too good
Imagine going hiking in the woods and you see a tank hunting a Land Rover
Fact: Range Rover is more reliable than a Russian Tank
everything is more reliable than a russian tank
XD
Imagine Jeremy and Hammond pranking Clarkson by loading the gun with an actual round
Smoothbore doesn't mean less accuracy nowadays. Sabot rounds are basically lasers, so rifling just slows them down. Rifling also means you can't shoot rockets out of your cannon.
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The tank driver: plz don't hit our lower plate pls don't hit it.....oh wait
I've noticed a lot in the comments people saying how much more accurate the Challenger II is compared to the Abrams because it has a rifled barrel. At smaller calibers, rifling is definitely an advantage, but at 120mm in diameter, it isn't really that useful, and can even be a hindrance. It simply takes much more to cause a larger round to deviate than a smaller one.
If you were to compare two proportionate bullets, one of which was twice the diameter of the other, you'd find that the larger of the two would have four times the surface area and eight times the mass. In ballistic mathematics, surface area causes an increase in deviation whereas mass causes a decrease (that is, surface area deceases accuracy, mass increase accuracy). As the mass/surface area ratio grows, the stabilizing effects of rotation shrink to the point of negligibility. The M256 cannon on the Abrams fires shells that are large enough that they do not significantly deviate, even at their maximum range.
Something else is that rifling does have its flaws. Many types of shells rely on delivering a payload in a very particular way, and giving the shell rotation may impede its ability to deliver said payload. Also, rifled barrels tend to have much shorter lifespans than smoothbores, given the extra friction and pressure they have to deal with.
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Don't call my my statements nonsense unless you can actually prove they're nonsense.
And I wasn't explaining why the British use rifled barrels and the US use smoothbore, I was explaining why rifling doesn't have much to do with accuracy at such high calibers.
Yes, HESH rounds can usually only be effectively fired from rifled barrels. Conversely, fin stabilized shells can typically only be fired from smoothbore barrels. As I said before, whether the gun is rifled or not limits one's choices in what kind of rounds can be fired.
Also, the US does use HESH rounds. The only difference is that they call them HEP (High Explosive Plastic).
Yes, the British have a round designed to negate the rifling when firing APFSDS. An important fact that you left out is that that round has significantly lower velocity than the smoothbore equivalent. The velocity must be lowered so as not to risk damaging the rifling of the gun too much.
Your "final point" is very confusing. You say that even extremely large caliber weapons are rifled for the same reason that smaller weapons are, but then you go on to say that it's not for increasing the stability of the shot. It's a self defeating remark.
Anyway, I didn't say that rifling didn't increase accuracy in large caliber rounds, only that it didn't increase it significantly enough to make a difference. Thanks to the square/cubed law, large caliber smoothbores have a rather long accurate range, and most tank combat takes place well within this range. As you said, the British go with rifled guns because they can fire HESH. They don't do it for accuracy.
Yes the challenger is a little acurate than the abraham but the abraham can shoot targets when moving because the barrel can lock at an object and always point at it. If they use a abraham the rover would lose in seconds.
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Seriously? It took you 20 days to come up with a single sentence? And it's not even like you're actually trying to refute what I'm saying, it's just a personal attack. That's the death rattle of an argument if I've ever heard one.
Challenger has Chobham level 2 armour. Which is classified. Only one of its kind because we will not share the technology. Every other tank has Chobham level 1.
Interesting story I heard was that Land Rover actually turned up to the filming for this with about 2 or 3 vehicles in case one went wrong. Clarkson turned up claiming he would break the car no matter what. Despite that, and the severe lack of any mechanical sympathy the car received, it actually, genuinely survived the whole ordeal you see in the video without issue. Pretty impressive stuff!!!
Absolutely loved this!
3:15 Is it just me or is that the music from Aliens?
"RIIPPPLEYYYYYY!! Go, go, go!"
Yes, it is :D
Tanks can't go through woods
Tell that to the germans
6:57 "enemy vehicle knocked out"
6:59 ONE TIME CLARKSON DESTROYED WELL DONE
"Here we are on the start line .. Goliath and David ..... Beckham."
LoL!!
I'm light, I'm nimble, I'm agile; does not sound like Jeremy Clarkson to me
My tank is better than your tank!!
What a bunch of whiners in the comments section!
WELCOME TO TH-cam!!
Of course.
All tanks are outdated anyway, who cares
But the Abraham's IS better!😁
@@itsgodnga besides the new tank Poland is working on
There's something fascinating about seeing Karens soccer mom mobile getting chased by a multi ton tank in circle
Love that part at 7:00 "1x Clarkson destroyed"