first edition was ment to be the only line but when the show was continued after the 5 part pilot, they had to extend the line to make way for the mainline.
Because from the younger collectors said the first edition figures was too complex for that hasbro has to slow down the engineering for the first figures to make it simple and fun
Fun fact: Prime Ironhide was initially gonna be one of the main Autobot cast (Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Ironhide, Ratchet). But after Ironhide was killed in DOTM, they didn't want to confuse people by having him alive in their Prime cartoon. So, he was replaced by Bulkhead instead, due to his popularity in Animated!
I mean when they said confused fan didn’t they saw dotm and saw megatron soundwave starscream and shockwave died as well don’t you think that kinda weird they added them and not ironhide
@@jaredpower1019 I guess they care more about Autobots deaths than Decepticons due to TF:TM situation? Or maybe they're worried about kids being confused, not loyal fans?
@@mattimusprimal637Them thinking that kids will be confuse over movie Ironhide and Prime Ironhide is just a stupid excuse to not include Ironhide in the series. They really thought kids are that dumb.🤦
I love alot of these figures. The bee mold had an awesome hotshot version which i missed out on. The beast hunters version was different enough that i consider it a different character. That Rumble always gets me with the chest face.
I’m still very impressed that First Edition Bulkhead and Optimus were so perfect given that usually the first toys end up inaccurate due to production lead times and changing concepts.
The RID Bulkhead actually has a more show accurate headsculpt (a lot more rounded than the harsh edges of the FE mouth plate) so I think changing concepts did ever so slightly screw over the line, at least in the start. The RID Starscream also has a much more accurate head, although I do love the FE’s shit eating smirk.
The engineering of this toyline still amaze me. Its crazy that they can nailed the engineering of the transformation while also still maintaining the stylized nature of the character design.
Its kinda cool seeing First Edition (APC Takara recolour in your case) by the RID Optimus and seeing the comparison. APC clearly wipes the floor with the RID one, but hey if for whatever reason he was at a flea market for cheap and you don't have a TFP Optimus he's a good pick up.
Fun Fact primevsprime bulkhead's name in Japan is Ironhide, but remember there can only be one Ironhide from the 2007 version will always be one of the greats.
While I have all the FE deluxe figures never had a chance of finding either the Prime or Bulkhead releases so had to settle for the mainline releases. Other than the garbage light up/retractable weapons I felt they were quite good engineering, and designwise to be suitable replacements. Never saw the Rumble or voyager Breakdown which I think were near the end before the theme changed over to Beasthunters. First time seeing the Cup/Ironhide as a Deluxe mold as I remember that only being a scout class for Ironhide. Essentially the same toy, smaller, and with transparent weapons.
I SAW TRANSFORMERS PRIME AND CAME RUNNING! 🏃♂ Also crazy how I actually still have some of these. Always down for a TFP Blast from the Past! This show means the world to me. 🔥💙
Mostly amazing Transformers Prime toy during that time. Some of them could doing better attempt the engineering. Amazing, you manage to track down some exclusive Transformers Prime toys, especially the hardest one, Skyquake. Cool video, PrimevsPrime, transform and ROLL OUT 🤗!
I've combined pieces from the FE and RID molds for certain figures in my collection and you can definetely create defitive versions of these characters.
Also I used to have the TFP RID Voyager Optimus Prime version and ngl I much prefer the TFP First Edition Optimus Prime who looks wayyyyyy better in both robot and truck mode
Still have the RID Bumblebee, and it's basically the only Prime figure that I currently own. Which sucks, but I don't have neither the money nor the space to collect more. In fact, when I had gotten the guy all those years ago, I wasn't even aware of the new show. I just saw an interesting looking Bumblebee figure at the store and asked mom to buy it.
I remember while staying at my ex's place in Singapore one year I was in a Toy's R Us and just bought up a few of those first edition figures. I only really got Arcee, Bulkhead and Cliff Jumper though. They're so cool.
I recently gotten Legacy Chase! Now I want to collect all of the police bots to create a police force. (other than animated Prowl cause he doesn’t look good with the characters I’ve chosen) such as Prowl (specifically siege) Strongarm (who is in stores right now) and Clampdown!
Man, watching this haul of TF:Prime toys bring back memories. I admit First Edition was superior to the RID Prime toyline but imo I usually thought the Cyberverse subline was the fun part about TF:Prime's toyline since I use to have Optimus Prime and Breakdown from that line along with the Beast Hunter Optimus Prime and Abominus figures in Cyberverse scale as well when I was a kid lol.
To protect the world from Devastation, to night all peoples within our nation, to announce the evils of Truth and Love to extend our reach to the stars above starscream, Thundercracker team seekers bast off at speed of light, surrender now or prepare to fight. Skywarp that's right.
I never got the oportunity to get any tfp toys when i was little, now that im seeking for them this video helps a lot I didn't even imagine there was extra bots that weren't in the show, cool.
The clear plastic on Optimus’s and other Prime line figures’ hands was intentional. The figures came with battery-bowered, illuminating, atrocities of hand-held weapons, that, when activated, illuminated the hands as well.
The line that killed worldwide distribution. After TFP wasn't doing that good at retail, shops lowered the demand for the brand, taking only less expenisve/cheaper things. Siege was when things started doing much better and then kung flu happened.
Damn it! How is it possible that 86 Core Class Rumble and Frenzy are down from the market so quickly!? I can't find these guys anywhere, and they go for ridiculous prices on Ebay!
@PrimeVsPrime But not this fast! 86 Starscream is still on Amazon, and he was released a year ago! Frenzy was on Amazon for only a week and got off, A WEEK!
Well last time I checked Skywarp, Thundercracker, Rumble, Kup, and Ironhide never once appered in the Transformers Prime series. I mean yes Starscream made clones of himself but none of them were either Skywarp or Thundercracker. But hey! That's what they do! They make toys of transformers who were never in the movies or shows! They did it for the first movie, ROTF, DOTM, AOE, TLK, Bumblebee, and ROTB and they also did it for The Old G1 series, The Animated series, The Prime series, The Rescue Bots series, The Robots in Disguise series, The Cyberverse series, The Earthspark Series and all the serieses inbetween them!
I really hope we can get a Legacy TFP Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, Arcee V.2, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Vehicons (jet & car), Ratchet, & everyone else!!! I love TFP Bee's design, character & Car mode, I NEED him in Legacy! The only TFP figures I have are Legacy Bulkhead, Knockout, & Smokescreen (Legacy Silverstreak looks ALOT like Beast Hunters Smokescreen). I really want Legacy Dreadwing, he looks AWESOME!! I LOVE TFP, one of the best TF shows ever!! & a PERFECT design for Ironhide for the next Knight/Capleverse movies would be a combination of TFP Concept Ironhide, G1, & ofc BBM Ironhide!! It would be PERFECT! & his alt mode would be a red pickup truck, with an orange stripe down each side! & SS100 Bee looks like a pretty decent stand-in for TFP Bee. I still need SS100 Bee.
5:21 FIRRIB was an animation error that became "canon" only in the western ver. of the cartoon. When Japan dubbed the cartoon, about a year after the west, they fixed Hasbro's error by turning them to FIBRIR aka toy colors!
I just recentely got the rid version of both Cliffjumper and Knockout and i think they're pretty good for the most part expect the fact that they're loose Their main issue are both in the arms for some reason...(and Knockout's inaccurate paintjob)
I'm trying to collect all the TFP figures too and i want some decepticons like vehicons shockwave starscream or the twins but they are rare i hope one day apc makes more characters
Unfortunately for Thundercracker and Skywarp, I wish they were in the Prime TV show. But in the Exodus novel, they died. Which explains why Starscream went a little coo coo after the War For Cybertron game.
The only TFP figures that I have is Cliffjumper and Steve (Vehicon). I do know the collectors shop near me haves that Optimus Prime for $30. I guess I could get. But as for the Seekers, even Starscream is expensive. Also, I do want Kup.
Wow thundercraker and skywarp are awesome repaint, hope hasbro will make prime universe starscream with his repaints of thundercraker and skywarp, BTW are my favorite of this video, I really want to see your review of thundercraker and skywarp
Sell me your 1st edition Bumblebee Prime!!!!! 😂😂 I have a lot of the 1st edition Prime figures, but sadly never got Bee. I am still super happy to have my 1st edition Prime and Bulkhead, they still hold up so well!! I have looked for Bumblebee but the folks on eBay are mad scalpers!! 😂😂 Why they've never rereleased these amazing toys is beyond me. It's like they actively work to make less money. Such an odd strategy for a toy company! 😂😂 Your making me jealous Prime. Keep up the great vids.
Ah yes, the dark days of the RiD hollow figures. My collection is getting pretty out of hand. I'm at the point now where I only collect characters that actually appear in the TV shows or movies and characters that actually transform with some exceptions. I had a lot of these but sold them to trim down my collection.
PvP, I don't think the weird head flaps sticking out were "lazy engineering" 2011 was the beginning of the "cheapening" of TF figures. Obviously if they could, they would have put an extra hinge. I don't believe there to be "lazy" engineering, just the "incompetent" or budget constrained kind.
Does anyone know why Transformers Prime had first edition & RID mainline?🤔
first edition was ment to be the only line but when the show was continued after the 5 part pilot, they had to extend the line to make way for the mainline.
Hi
The first edition line was cancelled
@@justpeach07so that's why😮😊
Because from the younger collectors said the first edition figures was too complex for that hasbro has to slow down the engineering for the first figures to make it simple and fun
Fun fact: Prime Ironhide was initially gonna be one of the main Autobot cast (Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Ironhide, Ratchet). But after Ironhide was killed in DOTM, they didn't want to confuse people by having him alive in their Prime cartoon. So, he was replaced by Bulkhead instead, due to his popularity in Animated!
Oh damn! That’s a shame! I would’ve loved TFP Ironhide 🤩
That would be nice but bulk head it one of my favorite characters ever
I mean when they said confused fan didn’t they saw dotm and saw megatron soundwave starscream and shockwave died as well don’t you think that kinda weird they added them and not ironhide
@@jaredpower1019 I guess they care more about Autobots deaths than Decepticons due to TF:TM situation? Or maybe they're worried about kids being confused, not loyal fans?
@@mattimusprimal637Them thinking that kids will be confuse over movie Ironhide and Prime Ironhide is just a stupid excuse to not include Ironhide in the series. They really thought kids are that dumb.🤦
I love alot of these figures. The bee mold had an awesome hotshot version which i missed out on. The beast hunters version was different enough that i consider it a different character. That Rumble always gets me with the chest face.
Just get hot shot on ebay he's like 20 pound
I’m still very impressed that First Edition Bulkhead and Optimus were so perfect given that usually the first toys end up inaccurate due to production lead times and changing concepts.
The RID Bulkhead actually has a more show accurate headsculpt (a lot more rounded than the harsh edges of the FE mouth plate) so I think changing concepts did ever so slightly screw over the line, at least in the start. The RID Starscream also has a much more accurate head, although I do love the FE’s shit eating smirk.
@@VADtoys the FE Bulkhead’s headsculpt is a small price to pay for salvation (aka such a great accurate toy otherwise). RID Bulkhead is a joke
I am disappointed that I Don’t have Transformers Prime Bumblebee
The engineering of this toyline still amaze me. Its crazy that they can nailed the engineering of the transformation while also still maintaining the stylized nature of the character design.
Its kinda cool seeing First Edition (APC Takara recolour in your case) by the RID Optimus and seeing the comparison. APC clearly wipes the floor with the RID one, but hey if for whatever reason he was at a flea market for cheap and you don't have a TFP Optimus he's a good pick up.
give me back my childhood.😭
Ikr?! To throw it back to 10 years ago 🙏🏻
Bumblebee always lets out a digital buzzing sound.
Prime was a decade ago ...god damn i feel old 😭
X2
Ikr?! Time flies 😭
@@PrimeVsPrime I remember coming home from school and turning tfp on
I started tfp recently but I already love it. I wish they made more seasons instead of RID 2015
Just saying, It would be cool if Apctoys gave us that Ironhide mold in voyager scale.
APC needs to get to work on 1st edition Bumblebee! It kills me that I never could find him, and I am NOT paying the eBay scalpers price. 😂
They should upscale the Commander version. Has better proportions in my opinion
@@shawndashno6022 Hope they give us show accurate stripes too.
Fun Fact primevsprime bulkhead's name in Japan is Ironhide, but remember there can only be one Ironhide from the 2007 version will always be one of the greats.
This is freaking awesome! I would always come home and watch the show.
TFP was GOAT
While I have all the FE deluxe figures never had a chance of finding either the Prime or Bulkhead releases so had to settle for the mainline releases. Other than the garbage light up/retractable weapons I felt they were quite good engineering, and designwise to be suitable replacements. Never saw the Rumble or voyager Breakdown which I think were near the end before the theme changed over to Beasthunters. First time seeing the Cup/Ironhide as a Deluxe mold as I remember that only being a scout class for Ironhide. Essentially the same toy, smaller, and with transparent weapons.
Apc and Ac are pretty decent substitutes if you want the FE
Very good video ! I love when you get "old" Transformers line. It would be great to see your entire collection in a video, too.
I SAW TRANSFORMERS PRIME AND CAME RUNNING! 🏃♂
Also crazy how I actually still have some of these.
Always down for a TFP Blast from the Past! This show means the world to me. 🔥💙
Mostly amazing Transformers Prime toy during that time. Some of them could doing better attempt the engineering. Amazing, you manage to track down some exclusive Transformers Prime toys, especially the hardest one, Skyquake. Cool video, PrimevsPrime, transform and ROLL OUT 🤗!
Thanks so much!
@@PrimeVsPrime You are welcome 🤗.
Even after 11 years, these figures are still the best in my opinion
I've combined pieces from the FE and RID molds for certain figures in my collection and you can definetely create defitive versions of these characters.
Woohoo Transformers Prime my favourite!!! Really love the First Edition figures especially Optimus, Bulkhead and the RID Vehicon!
Also I used to have the TFP RID Voyager Optimus Prime version and ngl I much prefer the TFP First Edition Optimus Prime who looks wayyyyyy better in both robot and truck mode
Wow! Those takara exclusives are rare!!!
More like elusive.
Dreadwing and skyquake are full of clear plastic and they break super easly.😢😅😢😢😢😮😢😢
Still have the RID Bumblebee, and it's basically the only Prime figure that I currently own. Which sucks, but I don't have neither the money nor the space to collect more. In fact, when I had gotten the guy all those years ago, I wasn't even aware of the new show. I just saw an interesting looking Bumblebee figure at the store and asked mom to buy it.
Omg I love prime in my opinion it was the best transformers series ever
I loved TFP! 🔥
I remember while staying at my ex's place in Singapore one year I was in a Toy's R Us and just bought up a few of those first edition figures. I only really got Arcee, Bulkhead and Cliff Jumper though. They're so cool.
I recently gotten Legacy Chase! Now I want to collect all of the police bots to create a police force. (other than animated Prowl cause he doesn’t look good with the characters I’ve chosen) such as Prowl (specifically siege) Strongarm (who is in stores right now) and Clampdown!
Man, watching this haul of TF:Prime toys bring back memories.
I admit First Edition was superior to the RID Prime toyline but imo I usually thought the Cyberverse subline was the fun part about TF:Prime's toyline since I use to have Optimus Prime and Breakdown from that line along with the Beast Hunter Optimus Prime and Abominus figures in Cyberverse scale as well when I was a kid lol.
I really like these transformers prime manline figures
Me too! They’re quite cool!
Oh god! Prime vs prime, you really put some effort into these videos! Keep it up! I love your videos!
Thank you! I really enjoy making these!
@@PrimeVsPrime Your welcome! As a creator, I can tell!
3:35 Looks like team Seeker’s blasting off again!
To protect the world from Devastation, to night all peoples within our nation, to announce the evils of Truth and Love to extend our reach to the stars above starscream, Thundercracker team seekers bast off at speed of light, surrender now or prepare to fight. Skywarp that's right.
I never got the oportunity to get any tfp toys when i was little, now that im seeking for them this video helps a lot
I didn't even imagine there was extra bots that weren't in the show, cool.
The clear plastic on Optimus’s and other Prime line figures’ hands was intentional.
The figures came with battery-bowered, illuminating, atrocities of hand-held weapons, that, when activated, illuminated the hands as well.
here's to hoping you get your hands on RID Arcee and Wheeljack! those 2 are my favourite of the whole RID line!
Well well well, currently watching the entire series for the first time, just finished s2 and about to start s3
The line that killed worldwide distribution. After TFP wasn't doing that good at retail, shops lowered the demand for the brand, taking only less expenisve/cheaper things. Siege was when things started doing much better and then kung flu happened.
The rumble frenzy mold is one I Need revisited I’m fine with them as tapes but as little shoebox cars that makes me sooOOoOo happy
Damn it! How is it possible that 86 Core Class Rumble and Frenzy are down from the market so quickly!? I can't find these guys anywhere, and they go for ridiculous prices on Ebay!
Most 86 figures sell out super fast unfortunately 😭
@PrimeVsPrime But not this fast! 86 Starscream is still on Amazon, and he was released a year ago! Frenzy was on Amazon for only a week and got off, A WEEK!
Forget bulkhead, now I NEEDED THAT!!!
🤣🤣🤣
Sound wave prime is my absolute favourite
PvP can you do a throwback video WITH ONLY OPTIMUS PRIME FIGURES. So it would quite literally be Prime vs Prime vs Prime vs Prime etc. etc.
I want that rumble for a live action interpretation
Well last time I checked Skywarp, Thundercracker, Rumble, Kup, and Ironhide never once appered in the Transformers Prime series. I mean yes Starscream made clones of himself but none of them were either Skywarp or Thundercracker. But hey! That's what they do! They make toys of transformers who were never in the movies or shows! They did it for the first movie, ROTF, DOTM, AOE, TLK, Bumblebee, and ROTB and they also did it for The Old G1 series, The Animated series, The Prime series, The Rescue Bots series, The Robots in Disguise series, The Cyberverse series, The Earthspark Series and all the serieses inbetween them!
I want this man to do a generations haul, there were some really good toys!
I really hope we can get a Legacy TFP Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, Arcee V.2, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Vehicons (jet & car), Ratchet, & everyone else!!! I love TFP Bee's design, character & Car mode, I NEED him in Legacy! The only TFP figures I have are Legacy Bulkhead, Knockout, & Smokescreen (Legacy Silverstreak looks ALOT like Beast Hunters Smokescreen). I really want Legacy Dreadwing, he looks AWESOME!!
I LOVE TFP, one of the best TF shows ever!!
& a PERFECT design for Ironhide for the next Knight/Capleverse movies would be a combination of TFP Concept Ironhide, G1, & ofc BBM Ironhide!! It would be PERFECT! & his alt mode would be a red pickup truck, with an orange stripe down each side!
& SS100 Bee looks like a pretty decent stand-in for TFP Bee. I still need SS100 Bee.
When Yolopark scourge?
Hopefully soon!
I really wish we got the concept Prime Ironhide for Transformers Legacy United…
5:21 FIRRIB was an animation error that became "canon" only in the western ver. of the cartoon. When Japan dubbed the cartoon, about a year after the west, they fixed Hasbro's error by turning them to FIBRIR aka toy colors!
I just recentely got the rid version of both Cliffjumper and Knockout and i think they're pretty good for the most part expect the fact that they're loose
Their main issue are both in the arms for some reason...(and Knockout's inaccurate paintjob)
Ah I never got the OG Knockout but Cliffjumper is really good!
I have 1st addition bumblebee but I lost one of the legs and the guns years ago
9:27 mine has held up for over a decade, so it shouldn't be that much of a problem
I replaced Prime and Megs with their APC versions for my Prime shelf.
I'm trying to collect all the TFP figures too and i want some decepticons like vehicons shockwave starscream or the twins but they are rare i hope one day apc makes more characters
i pretty much have the full rid line in my house somewhere but they are all damaged
you need to find some beast hunter figures, smokescreen takara tomy is a great edition to the collection if you ask me.
Unfortunately for Thundercracker and Skywarp, I wish they were in the Prime TV show. But in the Exodus novel, they died. Which explains why Starscream went a little coo coo after the War For Cybertron game.
There even a slipstream repaint of first edition starscream
i think you should try to get your hands on the takara beast hunters optimus figure as it represents that design the best
The only TFP figures that I have is Cliffjumper and Steve (Vehicon). I do know the collectors shop near me haves that Optimus Prime for $30. I guess I could get. But as for the Seekers, even Starscream is expensive. Also, I do want Kup.
good job about 2011-2012 Mainline HAUL! AUTOBOTS DECEPTICONS & EXCLUSIVES from Transformers: PRIME Action Figures
I'll keep saying it until it manifests! I hope they re-release Prime Soundwave and Shockwave
When is reactivate bumblebee review coming?!🎉
Next up! 🔥🤩
@@PrimeVsPrime let’s go! when will u make it?🤩🥳 (and post the review)
I wish hasbro considers doing transformers prime studio series
Wow thundercraker and skywarp are awesome repaint, hope hasbro will make prime universe starscream with his repaints of thundercraker and skywarp, BTW are my favorite of this video, I really want to see your review of thundercraker and skywarp
Sell me your 1st edition Bumblebee Prime!!!!! 😂😂 I have a lot of the 1st edition Prime figures, but sadly never got Bee. I am still super happy to have my 1st edition Prime and Bulkhead, they still hold up so well!! I have looked for Bumblebee but the folks on eBay are mad scalpers!! 😂😂 Why they've never rereleased these amazing toys is beyond me. It's like they actively work to make less money. Such an odd strategy for a toy company! 😂😂 Your making me jealous Prime. Keep up the great vids.
Do you have a website where I can find these
Always thought the best Cliffjumper would have FEd upper body & RiD lower body.
Yesss maybe so! Would be cool to see a new rendition of him!
Will you be talking about tidal wave and wheeljack
I have legacy skyquake, but part of me still wants the original voyager class dreadwing and Skyquake
Or maybe the cyberverse commander figures
What about APC 2.0 megatron and Black apple ironhide
I need that Starscream figure!
Hi Prime vs Prime. Maybe in the years to come hasbro could he more Prime Universe figure like.... Predaking. What you think ?
Were did you buy them from
But I really like a same deluxe class Bumblebee from Dark Energon since 2013. I think.
Transformers Prime Toys look very Is very show accurate to the tv show They don't need to redo that It's a very active to the show.
What about prime rid voyeger bulkhead and starscream
Oh wow. This is such a big collection.
Thanks for checking it out!
We really need an OSKO or Masterpiece of that Optimus Prime. For Bumblebee the RID2015 version of him is superior IMO.
I have a ironhide but its the cyberverse commander
the best transformers line
Have you seen legacy title wave and origins whelljack
Yes! They looks really good! What are your thoughts?
@@PrimeVsPrime I like them really excited for origins whelljack
Cliffjumper!!!🤠😎🤟
Was about to ask where ma boi smokescreen
Skyquake, and Takara Skywarp and Thundercracker? 😱 How much did this haul cost
Actually not too much
Ah yes, the dark days of the RiD hollow figures. My collection is getting pretty out of hand. I'm at the point now where I only collect characters that actually appear in the TV shows or movies and characters that actually transform with some exceptions. I had a lot of these but sold them to trim down my collection.
PvP, I don't think the weird head flaps sticking out were "lazy engineering"
2011 was the beginning of the "cheapening" of TF figures.
Obviously if they could, they would have put an extra hinge. I don't believe there to be "lazy" engineering, just the "incompetent" or budget constrained kind.
Cool i have Transformers Prime green Optimus Prime
Whoa you have a lot of them
3:53 waiting for APC toys to upscale this 3 dumbasses into voyager size, Super assured purchase from me if they do that
@primevsprime inwish springer was in transformers prime then Optimus wouldve had the wreckers almost all of them
I love transformers prime
RIP Keiji Fujiwara
First, also I love dis content
Hello! Thank you very much! 👊🏻🔥
Hi where are you from. I love your videos
Thank you! I am from London 🔥
First and i mise this show 😢
Thanks mate! & me too! 😭
Dreadwing's model is a lot better than the legacy one.
Edit: Again, bumblebee has a better robot mode, but I'm not gonna explain how to do it again.
how much longer till ss pablo
Next week!
ahhhhh more transformers prime content. yummy
will transformers legacy make toy about teen son of Optimus prime in 2024 today now yes 🤩🤩🤩🤩
As much as I like the concept of Arms Microns, I have one nitpick about them and I can say it in one word...
Stickers
Where is Ss bbm megs
will you transformers legacy make toy about teen son of Megatron in 2024 today now yes 🤩🤩🤩🤩