7:00 When Optimus tells Megatron "You have betrayed Cybertron and its citizens" he speaks with his battle mask on. Optimus removes the mask when he says "And you betrayed, me". He speaks the first part as Optimus Prime, but speaks the second part as Orion Pax.
Pretty much when Megatron called him Prime, and that was it it was like a single solidifying sentence that he saw his former friend as a Prime that Sentinal was. A barrier to himself and everyone else.
Prime ripping Megatron's tank turret off, whacking him with it, and Megatron reaiming it on his back was such an amazing thing to see. They really took full advantage of the transforming part of Transformers.
They weren't even that high in society. Its more like Bob the Janitor ripping the president in half. Then Bob the Janitor rips out the dead president's heart.
You can sense the raw emotion in their fight. One fights to save his planet without killing his former friend and the other fights to force change while cutting ties with his weak past.
It also shows how power corrupted Megatron and as Optimus said, he was becoming like Sentinel, since Sentinel’s lust for power led him to betray the Thirteen, just as D-16 tasting power and anger made him want to destroy *EVERYTHING* that opposed his will even when he got what he wanted by killing Sentinel.
The way megatron screamed his name was not only really powerful, it also showed how far he's been driven from his calm and collected self, being overrun with rage
@@ArkhamKnight-uj6ww Yep, and with the power he had gained from his T-Cog, and all he had unleashed... he was fueling a hunger for power and revenge, no matter WHAT he did to get it. And even when he kills Sentinel, it isn't enough for D, now Megatron-- he wants to raze Iacon, and effectively kill everyone to take out of all of Sentinel's followers, showing his rage has consumed him, and it's all that's left in addition to a need of power since he's come to using his strength to get what he wanted after learning the truth about Sentinel. What also sucks? We SEE D's steady transformation to Megatron before our eyes-- how he says he wants to kill Sentinel, how overjoyed he felt killing one of Sentinel's Trackers after getting his T-Cog, his beating Starscream with his own hands, his being willing to execute Sentinel before *EVERYONE* even after his crimes are exposed...
Yeah, he had literal reached the "I AM SO DONE WITH THIS SH*T!" point and is unleashing all that anger and frustration that he's kept bottled up for so long. Anyone who was in his place, having gone through what he had to go through might've reacted the same way. Sometimes we just want to scream: "ENOUGH!!", and put the hammer down. While I know that what D-16/Megatron did was wrong, I kinda felt glad when he tore Sentinel in half. He certainly deserved it.
@ Yeah. Though I see why Orion/Optimus DIDN'T want to see him die, because he wanted to see Sentinel locked up in chains for everyone on Cybertron to see once his crimes had been exposed. And that compassion is likely why he was chosen by Primus to wield the Matrix.
Megatron: Not bad for a librarian, perhaps you should have spent more time in the pit. Optimus Prime: And perhaps you should have spent more time in the library.
2:23 I like the detail of Sentinels body tarnishing to grey instantly after he dies. Really sells how they are more than just robots. His body got cold after death like an organic life forms would.
It’s a side effect of the Spark chamber going offline. In the same way a heart pumps blood through the body, a spark pumps energy through a transformer. When it stops burning, the flow ceases, and all that’s left is empty, lifeless metal.
Which is understandable. He let his rage consume him so much, he couldn't believe he didn't stop himself from fatally wounding Orion... only to choose personal grievances and anger over their bond when he drops him and chooses to kill Sentinel, become Megatron, then set out to RAZE Iacon.
The fact that you can see Optimus's inexperience but you can also see how he takes and learns from what he's seeing and trying, just in that one battle alone And also in the fact that he isn't all amped up and angry when he finally beats them all, just calm but grieved
One of my favorite foreshadowing is when they escape sentinel’s Guards after getting their Cogs, Orion tries to transform but just gets its head inside, sort of goofy moment. But after becoming Optimus Prime he uses that same move to avoid getting shot in the face by Megatron. This movie is amazing.
That’s what the matrix does. He has no clue what he’s doing or how he’s doing it but he’s adapting to the fighting styles of the Primes. His body looks like it’s doing half the stuff on autopilot but you can definitely see him understand why it’s happening and how to use it. Imagine getting mentally flashbanged with the collective wisdom of all the original primes including Primus himself, having to comprehend and use that in the span of like, a few seconds.
@@ItsMeFPSalmost like body memory which is lowkey cool as fuck like this new body of his got all the sweet spots now it’s for Optimus to optimize them to the best of his ability
He actually doesn’t know how to fight that well the Matrix gave him fighting skills and wisdom of the Primes so that’s why he is able to stand upto Megatron who was superior in fighting
@kyrios1120 In fact, megatron does not know how to fight either, since it is quite noticeable that he fights more by impulse while optimus fights more defensively than offensively until he obtained the axe of Zeta prime
This was the Transformers movie we deserve. You can read so much from this fight, the raw emotions of the two were once friends. Whoever wrote and directed this movie are true fans of the franchise.
I can easily see how this could be a distant prequel to the Bumblebee movie since that of course began with the fall of Cybertron using similar G1 models to what are used here.
Nothing can ever beat the first animated movie with Galvatron, but I definitely agree this is second. Lol the first 15 minutes and battle of the original is the most epic scene in cinematic history.
It'd be cool if Megatronus Prime gave Optimus the Requiem Blaster* via Matrix of Leadership like how he got the Energon Axe from Zeta Prime. *Reference to Skybound Transformers comic where Optimus got a Fusion Cannon arm of Megatron and used it.
Literally read it in Mr Incredible's voice. Oh such the bastardization of a Prime who fought for his brothers and sisters by someone who cannot compromise
People always manipulate the image and teachings of someone for their own benefit, even if it contradicts what that person actually stood for. Even if Megatronus stood in front of Megatron and told him that, Megatron wouldn't change his view.
A cool little detail is when Optimus tells Megatron that he’s banished, Megatron’s red eyes fade a little bit, probably because of his realization that his best friend is now his worst enemy, and right after his eyes light up a little bit more red than before.
To me it's more him being shocked but at the same time feeling regret for his decisions too. Both of them have made decisions that now condemned their lives into a never ending battle.
@@daranaqelforastero319 And with the release of the script it said “The sting of the banishment is read on Megatron's face but he regains his composure.”
Since Primus was the equivalent of God for the Cybertronians him intervening to save Orion and turning him into Optimus was a LITERAL deus ex machina (god from the machine).
Don't know if it applies to this contunuity but Orian Pax was always meant to become Optimus Prime because he was the reincarnation of Optimus Prime. Not all 13 Primes are named but again different contunuity
1:37 Not sure if anyone noticed it (I didn't the first time), but as Orion fell, everything underneath and around him kept moving and opening up so that Orion kept falling deeper and deeper, straight into Cybertron's core. This is showing that Cybertron itself, or rather Primus himself, is acting so that Orion can be given the Matrix of Leadership.
You know seeing as you say it I told a pair of friends of mine who are casual transformers fans but I know some from others that was no ordinary hole that hole was my guess the well of allsparks where all are one. some how I bet you heard this before because 2 sparks died that day D-16 and orion
My question how did prmius know what was going remember he planet size being ur telling me he can see what's happening on his back or well kinda of below his skin where the city is
6:52 Optimus could have absolutely followed through with that last swing and taken Megatron's head. He intentionally turned the axe up and showed mercy.
@Kaltsit- It felt like Optimus was still not used to his new body and power in the beginning, but as the fight progressed, he became more acclimated to it, and by the end he had fully comprehended his strength.
@@Kaltsit- Well yeah, he wants to end the fight in the best way he possibly can with minimal risk to everyone involved. He could've chopped Starscream in half but chose to throw him out of the way instead.
Rest of Iacon? That would be the case given to implication of some Cybertronians who turned out too fanatical toward Sentinel even after his lies were revealed or worse, being Quintessons' disciples as much as him.
@@stephenbyrne2170 No, Iacon would've fallen under a dictatorship with rage issues over Sentinel deceiving him. Megatron's safety wasn't Optimus' concern because his actions proved that all of Iacon was worth saving over the transformed D-16.
It's sad too, because you can understand D-16's anger, the grief, the betrayal, his emotions are understandable and relatable but his actions are not. His want to fix the injustice caused by Sentinel is understandable yet his actions do the complete opposite with consequences that lead to Cybertron's eventual downfall, it's a surprisingly deep and profound message for what's meant to be a somewhat kid oriented film.
What I love about this scene is their respective fighting Styles. Megatron is very much an offensive brawler type. He fights with rage and brute force. Optimus, on the other hand is very defensive, countering attacks and only trying to diffuse the violence. He never outright attacks Megatron, where Megs is trying to beat the life out of prime. This movie is fantastic.
Seriously, they marketed this like it was a goddamn Minions movie or something. I watched the first trailer, saw they put all the goofy parts in it and gave it a hard pass. Wasn't until some friends went to see it and told me it was great that I got interested.
I love how at 6:47 you can see the energon from optimus' axe transfer through his body to the other arm as he switches hands with it. this movie is so detailed I feel like people are still going to be pointing out details 10 years from now
I noticed a small detail: When Megatron is fighting both Elita and B he sheathes his arm cannon and uses his fists instead. While Megatron's not above fighting his friends he won't use his arm cannon lest he kills them just like he did to Orion. There's a bit of D-16 lingering in him
Not yet, at least. But that won't stop him from trying to kill them later. From robbing Bee of his voice, from forcing Elita to choose between Earth and Cybertron. From ending the lives of countless Autobots. To allying himself with Unicron and becoming Galvatron.
@@kingcamelot1395 Depending on how One's canon will go about things in the Great War, no kidding. And that's just based on any other versions of Megatron across the multiverse who believed they were justified in what they did besides a hunger for power and ambition...
@@kingcamelot1395 do not forget the worst deed he pulled, poisoning Cybertron with Dark Energon and in turn killing it. After which he blames Optimus for it.
@@ajmolhussain7025 “when a man looses any sense of care and empathy it can only mean one thing... That he can do whatever he wants, despite the cost” He claims to have nothing left to loose... Yet he's kidding himself if he believes that.
Love how Optimus gradually becomes stronger as he adjusts to his newfound power. From getting beaten by Megatron to taking multiple opponents and still winning
0:30 It was such a good creative decision to make prime getting shot be the first moment of actual violence in the movie, since everything up until this point is either censored or implied
Honestly specifically about that point i feel like its kind of strange for optimus to not allow the death of sentinel but all those other guys were just walking targets
@@annualdarkWell what’s important to note is the fact that sentinel was basically at Megatrons mercy. Had he killed him in the heat of battle or in self defense, Optimus probably would’ve sat back and grabbed popcorn since that’s exactly what he did with the other grunts/enemies. But if D-16 had literally just taken him to Iacon’s equivalent to prison, then sentinel would’ve been ruined either way since it’s clear he loved the praise he was getting from the cybertronians (I mean the dude was literally robot homelander 💀) and he had already been exposed for his crimes. Having their new world order begin with the execution of an unarmed and seemingly surrendering enemy, regardless of his cruelty, is still a very bad note to start on and sets a bad precedent for the people going forward. Optimus was trying to usher in an era of peace, and he knew that D was growing more and more power hungry from the moment he took his first kill. He understood that it was getting to D’s head, and didn’t want him to lose himself further hence the scene that ensues.
@@annualdark That's because those "soldiers" are actually drones, hence why they all look the same and have robotic soulless voices. They're pretty much AI, intelligent, but not truly alive.
He's not talking as Orion Pax in this, but a Prime. Yet you can hear the pain in his voice knowing that the friend he used to know was too far gone, the D16 he once treated like a brother was consumed and became Megatron.
@@martmandred9182 sometimes I ask myself that would he make a right choice if he gave his friend another chance to make things right rather than banishing him.
That was the little detail that I absolutely loved from this moment. The fact that you can see the pain and sadness in his face, to see someone who you knew for the longest time and considered your brother...become someone unrecognizable and blinded by hatred, hurts.
I love the symbolism of Optimus and Megatron Birth. Megatron looks like he's risen but in reality has fallen, by becoming a Monster who just killed his "Brother". Optimus looks like he's fallen but instead Rising up as a Hero, who will lay down his spark for others, so they can have a better future.
@@StanvilleBrown i fukkin' love how they presented their contrast in this movie. How they gain their follower (Megatron trough dominating the high guard making them respect him out of fear, Orion trough motivating the miners making them respect him out of pure admiration and bravery), their action, their change, oh god i really regrets missing the screening.
I love the subtle touch of Sentinel Losing color indicating he’s not a Prime. In the cave before Airachnid and her goons show up and capture Alpha Trion, you can see Megatronus, Zeta, obviously Alpha Trion (even though he was just powered down), Micronus, and Solus Prime all still full of color which tells us they were actually primes.
I know, right?! It was something I never knew I wanted, but can't imagine why I never thought of it before. They're the TRANSFORMERS, for cryin' out loud! Of course they're gonna use full and partial transformations to gain the upper hand on a fight! :D
@@Liesel_Lex_main D-16 was being rather honest with his reply on "Stopping" Sentinel Prime. I mean, and being honest, I would have said the same thing. After all, he idolized not only Megatronus but also Sentinel. To later learn that Megatronus was killed by Sentinel. Followed by Sentinel killing ALL the primes. Yeah. To learn your hero is in fact a monster. I'd snap too. Now to go as far as D-16 did and became Megatron. I would not know. If being honest still. Most likely. Rage is just a powerful emotion and "Drug". D-16, self-proclaimed Megatron, was rather "High" on rage. He was not thinking clearly. And really the whole "I am not saving you, anymore." line. That just symbolizes that he was tired of weakness. Saving those weaker than him. If they were strong or even stronger than him. He would respect them. But in his current mindset. All bots are tools to be exploited. The weaklings shall be purged and only the strong remain. Anyone that become stronger than him. Even challenge and beat him. They deserve to lead. Protecting the weak is for chumps. His new mindset.
@@Qardo Yeah, I can completely see where his rage comes from and, as you said, rage is one hell of a drug. Also him always having to be next to Orion and his mindset didn't help at all. And the "I'm not saving you anymore"? I saw it as D-16 being tired of always having Orion's back while Orion refused to do the same once; when he decided he was gonna kill Sentinel, Orion just got in his way. Meanwhile D-16 always saving him and following his crazy shenanigans that got them in trouble... Seems only logical for him to do what he did while high on rage.
brian tyree henry's performance here is just phenomenal. the way d16 sounds like he's about to break down while convincing himself orion is the enemy is just so perfect.
I love how this movie, rather than focusing on looking realistic like the Bayverse movies, embraced the cartoonish design of the characters but made their own modifications, which honestly seems more natural for an origin movie The vehicles (Aside from Megatron mostly) don't strictly resemble earth vehicles, you can see it in their silhouettes somewhat but some details like the wheels being metal instead of tires and no noticeable space for people to be inside
that's has been a thing since G1, right in the first episode we see Wheeljack, Bumblebee and the seeker trio in their original cybertronian vehicle modes
The only transformers movie since the 87 movie to give transformers fans proper fan service. Absolutely amazing 🤩 I just wish you guys had experienced it in the theatres like I did with my two young boys. I really hope they continue to make more
3:05 Man I did not expect to hear a part of transformers prime theme in this movie and I am so happy they added it in prime is my favorite series the nostalgia the theme gave me was insane
At 7:14 after Optimus said those words “You Betrayed Me.” , Notice How Megatron Stood up Speechless because those words hit him, but his new persona made it seem like he brushed it off.
Megatron knows D-16 wouldn't have let Orion fall into that pit, so he knows Optimus isn't wrong to say that. But Megatron can never accept being wrong.
The attention to detail in this movie is so good. I just noticed you can see the yellow energy of Optimus' axe transfer through his body from hand to hand at the end of the battle.
Transformers 2007 Optimus: You gave me no choice brother. Transformers the last knight. Megatron: We were brothers once. Optimus: Once. Gotta give the bayverse credit they had a good run before this, but it's a damned shame we won't get to see unicron.😢
In my opinion it really is sad that Prime and Megatron were like brothers until Megatron corrupted and let anger and hatred consume him and he didn’t want to fight his brother but Prime had no choice because if he spared his life, including himself Megatron would destroy all of Cybertron
My biggest gripe with bayverse is the transformers never got to feel like people, they were just background noise so when lines about how they were brothers always felt empty because we never really got to know they as people, tfo really delivered when it came to character writing
Props to Bumblebee going straight to business at 4:29 after he saw D-16 let go of Orion and almost killing Elita. He quickly realize that is no longer his friend D-16 but a tyrant named Megatron.
Chris even nails how Prime speaks, that philosophically sophisticated way of speaking is just magnificent and pays great tribute to what Peter Cullen's brother told him when auditioning for the role originally "Be strong but gentle". I really hope we get a sequel even though it would not be necessary.
This was such a great movie. This just proves we don’t need human interaction to have a good transformers movie. I hope we get more like this in the future. And can we please get more transformers games like the “War for” and “Fall of” Cybertron games
I don't think "human interaction" was the problem. I think the interactions were cringe, I can watch good kids shows and enjoy them, but the situations and acting were plain stupid even if it was meant for kids. They could have done cool movies with human interactions if they cared more about the stories rather than just the special effects getting all the budget.
7:28 “I’m sparing you, Megatron. I’m letting you go in the name of our past friendship. But I warn you. Even a single step out of line, will result in your permanent end.”
D16 didn't even realize that he did the exact same thing Sentinal did. Right down to taking Megatronus's T cog. He refused to see that he was becoming exactly like Sentinal. With the only difference being Sentinal used honeied words to convince others. And as Megatron, he choses violent actions.
Name me what you will but seeing their frienship in that scene early in the movie when D-16 helps Pax hide in that huge box, Pax gifting him that Megatronus sticker made this hit so hard. Those damned chopped onions appeared out of nowhere. Also at the end of this fight when you see Megatrons sadness just sitting there silent. Like he just fully understood what he did and the betrayal of his best friend in the world. Best Transformers movie ever for me.
Also that small flashback to where it all began, after all the adventure, pain and suffering, seeing that flashback scene to simpler times just hits hard, its the moment their friendship was born and its a time of innocence and joy that will never return and will be lost forever.
There's also the fact it slowly fades as time goes on, before getting removed entirely by Sentinel; his last remnant of their friendship stripped away, nothing to remind him of the past...
I love the symbolism of Optimus and Megatron Birth. Megatron looks like he's risen but in reality has fallen, by becoming a Monster who just killed his "Brother". Optimus looks like he's fallen but instead Rising up as a Hero, who will lay down his spark for others, so they can have a better future.
as someone who grew watching TFP, 3:05 gave me chills because of this music and the speech, later I discovered that both TFP and Transformers One share the same compositor also, great movie
Can I just say, I absolutely adore how creative both Optimus and Megatron were with their transformations and switching between forms and even improvising mid battle. Megatron reattaching his cannon and Optimus swings it down, Optimus using the wheels on the back of his legs in order to try and get Megatron off of him. Also that 1v3 smackdown was just great.
@SWR_Quackula Well, considering the original transformers, comics were set in the Marvel universe it could happen but not likely. Of course, other continuites have them in the same univers as Star Trek and another in the Ghostbusters universe and even G4 MLP well transported that world and then the Ponies visited Cybertron so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
@@MrDraycanakatheotherbrit Transformers multiverse is intertwined with the Marvel multiverse Comics got Earths 120185 (Marvel-UK) and 91274 (Marvel-US)) GI-Joe as well (it, 2005 IDWformers (AKA the HCBU) being stated to be Earth-7642, which has the Distinguished Competition in turn)
A very pleasant surprise from this movie. Been 30 years since I watched my first Transformers movie, this did a really good job bringing you back to the early days with the icing on the cake being we finally get to see what drove the ideological wedge between Optimus Prime and Megatron. The live action is nice eye candy but this is the story I want to dive back into.
I love their rivalry the most, because prime and megatron agree that they're still brothers in the end. No matter how much they pester each other, if it came down to it, they will look after each other
@girl1213 Another thing to point out, is that Megatron usually sees reason after he sells his soul to Unicron and becomes Galvatron. It takes putting Megatron in a position where he literally cannot _think_ without Unicron's approval, to get the message through to him.
@@kingcamelot1395 Not if they're going to bring in Unicron in this series at this point, but the fact that we saw Primus and his transformation into Cybertron hints at the possibility. But it's not a sure thing since this movie was focusing on the Origin of Megatron and Optimus Prime and they're acknowledged to be "young men" at this point in their lives. Usually it's well into the future when Unicron appears.
@girl1213 In fact, the film's art book nicknamed the cave where the primes' bodies are like the unicron mouth, so there's a good chance that unicron does exist in this continuity
And thus, the battle between the Autobots and Decepticons was born. One side was fighting for righteousness and peace, the other for destruction and vengeance, to destroy anybot who defied their beliefs, or deceived them. But not just a battle between two sides, a battle between those who were once brothers and sisters.
Since Optimus had all 13 Primes strength and power. Megatron maybe little bit hurt him, that's why he feels the pain. Optimus and Megatron both had Megatronus strength
what i loved about this fight is something you don't see in other transformers media, that i can remember and i haven't read the comics. is the unique usage of their transformations and partial transformations.
Brian Tyree Henry really out did himself with his incredible performance and his deep understanding of Megatron since always wanted to play the villains. Every villain is a hero of his and her own Story. D-16 is not only a product of Cybertron’s corrupted system and takes on Sentinel Prime’s oppression though violent means all the social injustices he had experiences forged his transcendence into Megatron and building up to a rivalry with Orion turned Optimus Prime (due to wanting the same goal of a unified Cybertron but have different viewpoints). But their friendship is doomed since they discovered that shocking realization their leader Sentinel Prime had sold out Cybertron to the Quintessons after betraying his fellow Prime brothers and sisters, and ruled his planet through oppression. D-16 has put too much faith in the system he has held on to until his worldview was shattered that boils up to anger and a personal vengeance after being suffered of the social injustices while Orion still kept his optimism by exposing the truth of Sentinel's corruption. Before entering the core of Cybertron, Orion is willfully sacrificed his life for the sake of his brother’s mortality but that effort is in vain. This what makes D-16 a much more of a compelling hero-turned-villain and tragic character in Transformers history. And the rift between two brothers. Both D-16 and Orion really wanted a unified Cybertron but each have different ways to bringing it into fruition.
@@xanderguldie D-16 was tortured by Sentinel Prime who crudely welded the face of Megatronus Prime decal on his chest with glee previously. So yeah he really wants to tear Sentinel apart and did exactly that.
Yea, when D-16 said he would never follow another "so called leader" ever again, it really was over for their friendship. There never was any chance of Orion as Optimus Prime reconciling with him-at least, not so soon after his killing of Sentinel.
When the first trailer dropped I expected this movie to be extremely juvenile and MCU like. I finally gave it a shot a couple of weeks ago and I enjoyed the movie. The marketing for this was the only reason this movie bombed. It’s surprisingly good.
I am the biggest Transformers fan in my family, and from the first trailer, I almost didn’t watch it in theaters. I’m glad I was able to watch it twice in the theaters in 3D!
You can sense the raw emotion in their fight. One fights to save his planet without killing his former friend and the other fights to force change while cutting ties with his weak past. very good.
A friend of mine cried when she saw that moment with her boyfriend. It was her first time seeing something transformers between both I was like vector sigma
One small detail I loved while watching this moive is the Orange starts to turn red little by little in D-16 eyes after learning what Sentinel Prime did.
Shows how Megatron was born from despair and loss of hope rather than just appearing out of nowhere. He's a creation of a young bot losing his sense of self and falling into hopelessness
The fight choreography is insane. I prefer this way more than the sloppy slowmo Bay stuff. This one makes such a creative use of the transformations and weapons as well.
the music in this whole part of the movie is really underrated,the scene was already heavy with both departing their past and changing and evolving to what they are now but the sound makes the fall and rise more impactful...
Megatron: Wait...wait....no! * explosion * * all gasp * Bumblebee: Optimus? Cliffjumper: Optimus! Sir! Huh? Elsa: * gasp * Optimus! Oh. Optimus! No, no! Please, no. * sobs * * wind whistling * elder tortoise: it's too late. If he were alive, he would say.... Optimus Prime: Get out of the way! Elsa: * gasp * spike: wow, you sound just like him. Mandalorian: look. Optimus prime: get out of the way! Elitia: he did it! Bumblebee: he's riding the sun. * Optimus Prime shouts * Bumblebee: but not very well. Everybody out of the way! * Optimus Prime grunts * Elsa: Optimus? You blew up megatron for me?
I honestly cry a bit when i watch this scene. That how the 2 friends who treats each other like their own blood brothers turned into the most iconic enemy in the decedes. If Transformers Two every released, i hope that Megatron will have his own redemption.
Optimus was fighting off Megatron, Starscream, Shockwave, and Soundwave at once while expertly using their own weapons against them. One of the greatest OP moments and best action scenes in the franchise.
the fight scene is actually so good, it's been awhile since i've watch an actual transformer fight. like for real they keep going back and forth different weapons this is how i actually imagine a transformer fight would be.
@@stephenbyrne2170idk through out the movie they referenced bumble bee being mute in other canons like when the squad saw the surface bee said “Im Speechless”
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“Look at him playing with his little toys. SO CUTE!”
The lore:
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so true haha
First time?
*glances at the Clone Wars* haha... yea...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
7:00 When Optimus tells Megatron "You have betrayed Cybertron and its citizens" he speaks with his battle mask on. Optimus removes the mask when he says "And you betrayed, me". He speaks the first part as Optimus Prime, but speaks the second part as Orion Pax.
It helps that Chris Hemsworth is displaying his inner Peter Cullen with the Mask on and then as 'Orion Pax'.
@@ScotsThinkermore like a younger Optimus Prime/Orion Pax but i do see where your going lol
I still dont like prime with a normal mouth ever. But this movie looks very nice in animation and style.
Pretty much when Megatron called him Prime, and that was it it was like a single solidifying sentence that he saw his former friend as a Prime that Sentinal was. A barrier to himself and everyone else.
@@AndyPrimeOnewhat about the TFP design
I absolutely love how they fight, they actually transform while fighting to gain unconventional advantage
EXACTLY, people been pointing this and that, but honestly that part really really really puts justice to the name "Transformers" in itself
I literally searched the comments for someone talking about this. It just looks so cool AND smart.
the truck leg sweep was straight out of devestation
Prime ripping Megatron's tank turret off, whacking him with it, and Megatron reaiming it on his back was such an amazing thing to see. They really took full advantage of the transforming part of Transformers.
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"Imagine one day you wake up and see that Tom from accounting rips the president in half" - some random comment in a different Transformers One video
and then starts calling himself Abrahamus Lincolon
@@muffinman3052 abrahamus lincoln is a crazy parallel ToT
They weren't even that high in society. Its more like Bob the Janitor ripping the president in half. Then Bob the Janitor rips out the dead president's heart.
I REMEMBER THAT
@@muffinman3052 then his best friend Jim comes back from the death and becomes president
You can sense the raw emotion in their fight. One fights to save his planet without killing his former friend and the other fights to force change while cutting ties with his weak past.
When your opponent is putting effort to avoid accidentally killing you
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It also shows how power corrupted Megatron and as Optimus said, he was becoming like Sentinel, since Sentinel’s lust for power led him to betray the Thirteen, just as D-16 tasting power and anger made him want to destroy *EVERYTHING* that opposed his will even when he got what he wanted by killing Sentinel.
Sorry but dialogues for transformers were always better in bay's movies. Don't know why megatron is crying like a toddler in this.
@@Wr-v1iwhat was wrong with the dialogue?
The way megatron screamed his name was not only really powerful, it also showed how far he's been driven from his calm and collected self, being overrun with rage
D16 had reached his breaking point and eventually gave in to the anger he held back for so long
1:06 im done saving you
@@ArkhamKnight-uj6ww Yep, and with the power he had gained from his T-Cog, and all he had unleashed... he was fueling a hunger for power and revenge, no matter WHAT he did to get it. And even when he kills Sentinel, it isn't enough for D, now Megatron-- he wants to raze Iacon, and effectively kill everyone to take out of all of Sentinel's followers, showing his rage has consumed him, and it's all that's left in addition to a need of power since he's come to using his strength to get what he wanted after learning the truth about Sentinel. What also sucks? We SEE D's steady transformation to Megatron before our eyes-- how he says he wants to kill Sentinel, how overjoyed he felt killing one of Sentinel's Trackers after getting his T-Cog, his beating Starscream with his own hands, his being willing to execute Sentinel before *EVERYONE* even after his crimes are exposed...
Yeah, he had literal reached the "I AM SO DONE WITH THIS SH*T!" point and is unleashing all that anger and frustration that he's kept bottled up for so long.
Anyone who was in his place, having gone through what he had to go through might've reacted the same way. Sometimes we just want to scream: "ENOUGH!!", and put the hammer down.
While I know that what D-16/Megatron did was wrong, I kinda felt glad when he tore Sentinel in half. He certainly deserved it.
@ Yeah. Though I see why Orion/Optimus DIDN'T want to see him die, because he wanted to see Sentinel locked up in chains for everyone on Cybertron to see once his crimes had been exposed. And that compassion is likely why he was chosen by Primus to wield the Matrix.
Megatron: Not bad for a librarian, perhaps you should have spent more time in the pit.
Optimus Prime: And perhaps you should have spent more time in the library.
Oh this speech is just great
FALL OF CYBERTRON MENTIONED !!!!11!!1
Best game! War for Cybertron, right?
@@IsaacArcos-i2k Nope, The true best game! Fall of Cybetron (specfically the final chapter with the Megatron vs Optimus Prime fight)
Optimus Prime would get along with Twilight Sparkle because both are book nerds.
2:23 I like the detail of Sentinels body tarnishing to grey instantly after he dies. Really sells how they are more than just robots. His body got cold after death like an organic life forms would.
It's just like a reference on how how optimus died back in G1.
It’s a side effect of the Spark chamber going offline. In the same way a heart pumps blood through the body, a spark pumps energy through a transformer. When it stops burning, the flow ceases, and all that’s left is empty, lifeless metal.
What’s interesting too is that in the tomb of the primes, they still retain their color, so it further signifies that Sentinel is a fake prime
@@sammymamudi2988 And Starscream.
Same thing happened to Orion while he was falling
0:46 According to the script, D isn’t saying this to Orion.
He's saying it to HIMSELF.
0:57 D, No. 😢
1:06 I'm done saving you
I saw that 😨
Which is understandable. He let his rage consume him so much, he couldn't believe he didn't stop himself from fatally wounding Orion... only to choose personal grievances and anger over their bond when he drops him and chooses to kill Sentinel, become Megatron, then set out to RAZE Iacon.
How to himself?
The fact that you can see Optimus's inexperience but you can also see how he takes and learns from what he's seeing and trying, just in that one battle alone
And also in the fact that he isn't all amped up and angry when he finally beats them all, just calm but grieved
One of my favorite foreshadowing is when they escape sentinel’s Guards after getting their Cogs, Orion tries to transform but just gets its head inside, sort of goofy moment.
But after becoming Optimus Prime he uses that same move to avoid getting shot in the face by Megatron. This movie is amazing.
That’s what the matrix does. He has no clue what he’s doing or how he’s doing it but he’s adapting to the fighting styles of the Primes. His body looks like it’s doing half the stuff on autopilot but you can definitely see him understand why it’s happening and how to use it.
Imagine getting mentally flashbanged with the collective wisdom of all the original primes including Primus himself, having to comprehend and use that in the span of like, a few seconds.
@@ItsMeFPSalmost like body memory which is lowkey cool as fuck like this new body of his got all the sweet spots now it’s for Optimus to optimize them to the best of his ability
He actually doesn’t know how to fight that well the Matrix gave him fighting skills and wisdom of the Primes so that’s why he is able to stand upto Megatron who was superior in fighting
@kyrios1120 In fact, megatron does not know how to fight either, since it is quite noticeable that he fights more by impulse while optimus fights more defensively than offensively until he obtained the axe of Zeta prime
This was the Transformers movie we deserve. You can read so much from this fight, the raw emotions of the two were once friends. Whoever wrote and directed this movie are true fans of the franchise.
Thank Steven Spielberg 🙌🏾
It’s a shame it wasn’t better advertised.
Director and the writers deserve the praise and the HR has to be chucked off the bus.
I've been watching transformers since Armada on cartoon network... This movie fulfilled everything what I loved about this franchise
@@hecksters423 Hey Paramount marketing team, my finger can transform. Guess which one? I'll give you a limited option
0:50 You really gotta hand it to the animators here. A lot of time must've gone into the facial expressions alone
That's what i liked❤❤
0:04 megatron
bro has the AUDACITY to use that pfp(heh get it)
This movie was sooo good. Crazy how they fumbled the marketing for it. This is hands down the best Transformers movies we have ever gotten.
I can easily see how this could be a distant prequel to the Bumblebee movie since that of course began with the fall of Cybertron using similar G1 models to what are used here.
Nothing can ever beat the first animated movie with Galvatron, but I definitely agree this is second. Lol the first 15 minutes and battle of the original is the most epic scene in cinematic history.
Just like they did with rise The entire entirety of that marketing department needs to get fired.
What are you on? The marketing tells you exactly what you get, a mid kid's movie
@ not really apparently not because they didn’t do their job well
“I. Am. *MEGATRON!!!* ”
Meanwhile,
Megatronus in the allspark: *You’re not affiliated with me!*
It'd be cool if Megatronus Prime gave Optimus the Requiem Blaster* via Matrix of Leadership like how he got the Energon Axe from Zeta Prime.
*Reference to Skybound Transformers comic where Optimus got a Fusion Cannon arm of Megatron and used it.
Literally read it in Mr Incredible's voice. Oh such the bastardization of a Prime who fought for his brothers and sisters by someone who cannot compromise
People always manipulate the image and teachings of someone for their own benefit, even if it contradicts what that person actually stood for. Even if Megatronus stood in front of Megatron and told him that, Megatron wouldn't change his view.
I…am…Megatron!
Arise…Optimus Prime.
@@LanceGraveleyblinded by his own will
A cool little detail is when Optimus tells Megatron that he’s banished, Megatron’s red eyes fade a little bit, probably because of his realization that his best friend is now his worst enemy, and right after his eyes light up a little bit more red than before.
To me it's more him being shocked but at the same time feeling regret for his decisions too. Both of them have made decisions that now condemned their lives into a never ending battle.
@@daranaqelforastero319 And with the release of the script it said “The sting of the banishment is read on Megatron's face but he
regains his composure.”
@Blue-Apple-fc9eo so we were right, he was shocked but remained with his intentions and feelings
@@daranaqelforastero319 And shows deep down he is shown genuine remorse.
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo absolutely
Since Primus was the equivalent of God for the Cybertronians him intervening to save Orion and turning him into Optimus was a LITERAL deus ex machina (god from the machine).
Don't know if it applies to this contunuity but Orian Pax was always meant to become Optimus Prime because he was the reincarnation of Optimus Prime. Not all 13 Primes are named but again different contunuity
@MrDraycanakatheotherbrit We have a list of all the Primes that were in this movie
@dropkick3024 Well, like I said, different continuity
Rare occasion where a deus ex machina isn't out of place
It’s also in this case it’s also the reverse, a machina ex deo, a machine from god
1:37 Not sure if anyone noticed it (I didn't the first time), but as Orion fell, everything underneath and around him kept moving and opening up so that Orion kept falling deeper and deeper, straight into Cybertron's core.
This is showing that Cybertron itself, or rather Primus himself, is acting so that Orion can be given the Matrix of Leadership.
Wait you're totally right I completely missed that
Makes sense
You know seeing as you say it I told a pair of friends of mine who are casual transformers fans but I know some from others that was no ordinary hole that hole was my guess the well of allsparks where all are one. some how I bet you heard this before because 2 sparks died that day D-16 and orion
I noticed that too. I had to rewind it a couple of times just to make sure I wasn’t seeing things
My question how did prmius know what was going remember he planet size being ur telling me he can see what's happening on his back or well kinda of below his skin where the city is
4:59 Desktop wallpaper shot!
Agreed
Agreed
Agreed
6:52 Optimus could have absolutely followed through with that last swing and taken Megatron's head. He intentionally turned the axe up and showed mercy.
Fr Optimus was holding back here almost every fight he show mercy on Megatron, while Megatron goes all out Optimus on other hand is holding back
@@skyfigurefunfrom the choreography, it seemed like Optimus was playing defense most of the time.
@Kaltsit- It felt like Optimus was still not used to his new body and power in the beginning, but as the fight progressed, he became more acclimated to it, and by the end he had fully comprehended his strength.
@@Kaltsit-All of Prime's attacks are counters, throughout the fight he never engaged first .
@@Kaltsit- Well yeah, he wants to end the fight in the best way he possibly can with minimal risk to everyone involved. He could've chopped Starscream in half but chose to throw him out of the way instead.
I feel sorry for Optimus. The very first thing he had to do as a Prime was the very last thing he wanted to do at all.
Yeah, first and second.
But if he hadn't declared Megatron's banishment, the rest of Ioacon would've ended his life.
Rest of Iacon? That would be the case given to implication of some Cybertronians who turned out too fanatical toward Sentinel even after his lies were revealed or worse, being Quintessons' disciples as much as him.
@@stephenbyrne2170
No, Iacon would've fallen under a dictatorship with rage issues over Sentinel deceiving him.
Megatron's safety wasn't Optimus' concern because his actions proved that all of Iacon was worth saving over the transformed D-16.
It's sad too, because you can understand D-16's anger, the grief, the betrayal, his emotions are understandable and relatable but his actions are not.
His want to fix the injustice caused by Sentinel is understandable yet his actions do the complete opposite with consequences that lead to Cybertron's eventual downfall, it's a surprisingly deep and profound message for what's meant to be a somewhat kid oriented film.
What I love about this scene is their respective fighting Styles. Megatron is very much an offensive brawler type. He fights with rage and brute force. Optimus, on the other hand is very defensive, countering attacks and only trying to diffuse the violence. He never outright attacks Megatron, where Megs is trying to beat the life out of prime. This movie is fantastic.
The marketing was bad. This is an amazing Transformers movie
I blame the marketing for what they did to this masterpiece! 😭
i dont blame them tbh, marketing now days is just brainrots lol
It was the Graphics. If it had the same has other movies it would be hit.
Seriously, they marketed this like it was a goddamn Minions movie or something. I watched the first trailer, saw they put all the goofy parts in it and gave it a hard pass. Wasn't until some friends went to see it and told me it was great that I got interested.
@Toffeehammer I thought it was gonna be like "Transformers in HIGH SCHOOL" bro for real
I love how at 6:47 you can see the energon from optimus' axe transfer through his body to the other arm as he switches hands with it. this movie is so detailed I feel like people are still going to be pointing out details 10 years from now
Amazing spot
Damn that's so cool you can see it go through his chest and straight to his other arm I didn't even see that at first
Damn, you’re right!!! Another excellent detail from the movie 🗿🙏
I didn’t even notice that! Great catch!
Holy shit I didn't notice it! Nice vision, your comment should be used in a youtube short :D
What I really love about this movie is how the characters utilize their transformation abilities in fighting. Awesome.
I noticed a small detail: When Megatron is fighting both Elita and B he sheathes his arm cannon and uses his fists instead. While Megatron's not above fighting his friends he won't use his arm cannon lest he kills them just like he did to Orion. There's a bit of D-16 lingering in him
He's never completely gone, but his influence is limited
Not yet, at least. But that won't stop him from trying to kill them later. From robbing Bee of his voice, from forcing Elita to choose between Earth and Cybertron. From ending the lives of countless Autobots. To allying himself with Unicron and becoming Galvatron.
@@kingcamelot1395 Depending on how One's canon will go about things in the Great War, no kidding. And that's just based on any other versions of Megatron across the multiverse who believed they were justified in what they did besides a hunger for power and ambition...
@@kingcamelot1395 do not forget the worst deed he pulled, poisoning Cybertron with Dark Energon and in turn killing it. After which he blames Optimus for it.
@@ajmolhussain7025 “when a man looses any sense of care and empathy it can only mean one thing... That he can do whatever he wants, despite the cost”
He claims to have nothing left to loose... Yet he's kidding himself if he believes that.
Love how Optimus gradually becomes stronger as he adjusts to his newfound power. From getting beaten by Megatron to taking multiple opponents and still winning
Optimus Prime: My brother had turned evil and changed his name to Megatron. So I changed my real name to Optimus Prime that's me
bayverse optimus went back in time and lent him his strength 👹
He was also kind of holding back cuz he didn't want to hurt megatron too much
In a fight, right?
“You’ll never stop at one. I’ll take you all on!”
- Optimus tanking a 1v3
0:30 It was such a good creative decision to make prime getting shot be the first moment of actual violence in the movie, since everything up until this point is either censored or implied
Bee literally slicing the soldiers of sentinel in half
Honestly specifically about that point i feel like its kind of strange for optimus to not allow the death of sentinel but all those other guys were just walking targets
@@annualdarkWell what’s important to note is the fact that sentinel was basically at Megatrons mercy. Had he killed him in the heat of battle or in self defense, Optimus probably would’ve sat back and grabbed popcorn since that’s exactly what he did with the other grunts/enemies. But if D-16 had literally just taken him to Iacon’s equivalent to prison, then sentinel would’ve been ruined either way since it’s clear he loved the praise he was getting from the cybertronians (I mean the dude was literally robot homelander 💀) and he had already been exposed for his crimes. Having their new world order begin with the execution of an unarmed and seemingly surrendering enemy, regardless of his cruelty, is still a very bad note to start on and sets a bad precedent for the people going forward. Optimus was trying to usher in an era of peace, and he knew that D was growing more and more power hungry from the moment he took his first kill. He understood that it was getting to D’s head, and didn’t want him to lose himself further hence the scene that ensues.
@@annualdark That's because those "soldiers" are actually drones, hence why they all look the same and have robotic soulless voices. They're pretty much AI, intelligent, but not truly alive.
Didn’t Orion transform while grabbing onto one of Sentinel’s soldiers, literally cutting them into multiple pieces on-screen?
"You have betrayed Cybertron and it's citizens...
And you betrayed me"
Hits hard for me
You are banished from Iacon
He's not talking as Orion Pax in this, but a Prime. Yet you can hear the pain in his voice knowing that the friend he used to know was too far gone, the D16 he once treated like a brother was consumed and became Megatron.
@@martmandred9182 sometimes I ask myself that would he make a right choice if he gave his friend another chance to make things right rather than banishing him.
@@martmandred9182 I think him lowering his mask is them trying to show that that was Orion talking, not Optimus.
That was the little detail that I absolutely loved from this moment. The fact that you can see the pain and sadness in his face, to see someone who you knew for the longest time and considered your brother...become someone unrecognizable and blinded by hatred, hurts.
I like the fact that Megatron starts his sentence calmly but ends up yelling, but Alpha Trion starts yelling and then ends it calmly.
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Absolute Cinema
Never noticed that
I love the symbolism of Optimus and Megatron Birth. Megatron looks like he's risen but in reality has fallen, by becoming a Monster who just killed his "Brother". Optimus looks like he's fallen but instead Rising up as a Hero, who will lay down his spark for others, so they can have a better future.
@@StanvilleBrown i fukkin' love how they presented their contrast in this movie. How they gain their follower (Megatron trough dominating the high guard making them respect him out of fear, Orion trough motivating the miners making them respect him out of pure admiration and bravery), their action, their change, oh god i really regrets missing the screening.
I love this movie dude
I love the subtle touch of Sentinel Losing color indicating he’s not a Prime. In the cave before Airachnid and her goons show up and capture Alpha Trion, you can see Megatronus, Zeta, obviously Alpha Trion (even though he was just powered down), Micronus, and Solus Prime all still full of color which tells us they were actually primes.
But Optimus' color faded when he died in G1.
@@greentoesbstatus4325different Continuity
@@greentoesbstatus4325true, but that’s G1. Since this is a reboot, they’re probably doing things differently
I love the use of their transformations in their fight scene. It's so underused in transformers fights.
I know, right?! It was something I never knew I wanted, but can't imagine why I never thought of it before. They're the TRANSFORMERS, for cryin' out loud! Of course they're gonna use full and partial transformations to gain the upper hand on a fight! :D
It's something you could do in the games, but the Bey movies completely ignored it, but they remembered it here.
@@Slayer398 To be fair the bey movies might have done it but how would you even tell.
Bay movie transformation is not that good in fight cux if u have something on ur body while transforming then you are dead@@Slayer398
@@Slayer398they won't do it in bayverse as it would cost much budget to add more fights like them using transformation mid fight.
This movie started out so kid-friendly... ended up being more mature and compelling than any of Michael Bay's movies!
I know right?! First D-16 saying he wanted to kill Sentinel, and later just ripping him in half? That went from 0 to 1000 REAL quick and REAL brutal!
@@Liesel_Lex_main D-16 was being rather honest with his reply on "Stopping" Sentinel Prime. I mean, and being honest, I would have said the same thing. After all, he idolized not only Megatronus but also Sentinel. To later learn that Megatronus was killed by Sentinel. Followed by Sentinel killing ALL the primes. Yeah. To learn your hero is in fact a monster. I'd snap too. Now to go as far as D-16 did and became Megatron. I would not know. If being honest still. Most likely. Rage is just a powerful emotion and "Drug". D-16, self-proclaimed Megatron, was rather "High" on rage. He was not thinking clearly.
And really the whole "I am not saving you, anymore." line. That just symbolizes that he was tired of weakness. Saving those weaker than him. If they were strong or even stronger than him. He would respect them. But in his current mindset. All bots are tools to be exploited. The weaklings shall be purged and only the strong remain. Anyone that become stronger than him. Even challenge and beat him. They deserve to lead. Protecting the weak is for chumps. His new mindset.
@@Qardo well said
@@Qardo Yeah, I can completely see where his rage comes from and, as you said, rage is one hell of a drug. Also him always having to be next to Orion and his mindset didn't help at all. And the "I'm not saving you anymore"? I saw it as D-16 being tired of always having Orion's back while Orion refused to do the same once; when he decided he was gonna kill Sentinel, Orion just got in his way. Meanwhile D-16 always saving him and following his crazy shenanigans that got them in trouble... Seems only logical for him to do what he did while high on rage.
Its more mature than 99% of most movies today.
Megatron: "Impossible. I watched you die."
Optimus: "My death was greatly exaggeratdd."
Bro got over it
One loudly proclaims his new identity for all to hear.
The other is bestowed a new identity by those who fought before.
Symbolism. Pure symbolism.
How do you say things like these 🥹
@ I’m very imaginative 😊
7:09 seeing Megatron sit there and have tears running down his face just breaks my heart. This movie is a love letter to the fandom…
So deep down he is genuinely hurt…
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo for real 😭
@@rokkudaun This movie just keeps getting deeper on every rewatch and I love it.
@ IT DOES!! Man I even swapped my main ocs lore to fit TFO lore 😂
It's his own fault.
Love how D smiles while holding Megatronus' cog,almost the same way Sentinel smiled when he held the Matrix
5:51 Optimus rips off Megatron's cannon, hits him with it, then Megatron reattaches it to himself. This fight had so many cool moments
brian tyree henry's performance here is just phenomenal. the way d16 sounds like he's about to break down while convincing himself orion is the enemy is just so perfect.
Brian Tyree Henry invoked his inner T.C Carson
That sound of pure rage, my god
I also like how Chris Hemsworth changes his voice to sound more like Peter Cullen after Orion becomes Optimus.
“I’m done saving you.”
Kinda sounded like Terrence Carson's Kratos voice with that speech.
5:32 fire gun
This is the best scene in the whole movie. The red eyes trail while fighting is schematic beauty.
I love how this movie, rather than focusing on looking realistic like the Bayverse movies, embraced the cartoonish design of the characters but made their own modifications, which honestly seems more natural for an origin movie
The vehicles (Aside from Megatron mostly) don't strictly resemble earth vehicles, you can see it in their silhouettes somewhat but some details like the wheels being metal instead of tires and no noticeable space for people to be inside
Art deco heavily influenced
Yeah the vehicles are cybertronian, because they don't assume actual human vehicular forms till they're on earth to blend in
that's has been a thing since G1, right in the first episode we see Wheeljack, Bumblebee and the seeker trio in their original cybertronian vehicle modes
4:48 now that’s a grand entrance
You sounded like Po from Kung Fu Panda 3.
Nice reference @@johnsantos507
Big bot energy
Almost a superhero landing, except his fist doesn't hit the ground.
@@johnsantos507i was thinking the same thing
The only transformers movie since the 87 movie to give transformers fans proper fan service. Absolutely amazing 🤩 I just wish you guys had experienced it in the theatres like I did with my two young boys. I really hope they continue to make more
TY... I watched it in theaters as well.. I'm in my late 40s.
3:05 Man I did not expect to hear a part of transformers prime theme in this movie and I am so happy they added it in prime is my favorite series the nostalgia the theme gave me was insane
It's the same composer from the series
I’m still glad they did it
you hear the theme and others from TFP in the movie, I believe its because they had the same composer
Im so glad that did it too
I know I was getting so giddy over that scene
Fun Fact: Brian Tyler is the same composer for the movie Super Mario Bros
At 7:14 after Optimus said those words “You Betrayed Me.” , Notice How Megatron Stood up Speechless because those words hit him, but his new persona made it seem like he brushed it off.
Megatron knows D-16 wouldn't have let Orion fall into that pit, so he knows Optimus isn't wrong to say that. But Megatron can never accept being wrong.
This movie was incredible. I really hope there is a sequel
Sadly, it flopped. This was a great movie!
The attention to detail in this movie is so good. I just noticed you can see the yellow energy of Optimus' axe transfer through his body from hand to hand at the end of the battle.
HOLY SCRAP I JUST SAW THAT!!! 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
That is some badass animation!😎😎😎😎😎
Transformers 2007
Optimus: You gave me no choice brother.
Transformers the last knight.
Megatron: We were brothers once.
Optimus: Once.
Gotta give the bayverse credit they had a good run before this, but it's a damned shame we won't get to see unicron.😢
In my opinion it really is sad that Prime and Megatron were like brothers until Megatron corrupted and let anger and hatred consume him and he didn’t want to fight his brother but Prime had no choice because if he spared his life, including himself Megatron would destroy all of Cybertron
My biggest gripe with bayverse is the transformers never got to feel like people, they were just background noise so when lines about how they were brothers always felt empty because we never really got to know they as people, tfo really delivered when it came to character writing
@@ivanchoo2006 agreed, this movie really showed and gave impact to those lines in the bayverse movies
@starseeker27 uhh it's not "gave" it's you left me no choice brother
@@smilingcat3851 despite not even being in the same universe
1:06 "Long live the king."
"The Lannisters send their regards."
"Execute Order 66."
"I'm done saving you."
This movie didn’t have to go this hard, but they did, and I absolutely love it.
Props to Bumblebee going straight to business at 4:29 after he saw D-16 let go of Orion and almost killing Elita. He quickly realize that is no longer his friend D-16 but a tyrant named Megatron.
That's cuz his Badazzatron!!
Bumblebee didn't hold back. He actually try to stab Megatron's eyes.
Bee was always been about dishing the work
Chris even nails how Prime speaks, that philosophically sophisticated way of speaking is just magnificent and pays great tribute to what Peter Cullen's brother told him when auditioning for the role originally "Be strong but gentle".
I really hope we get a sequel even though it would not be necessary.
This was such a great movie. This just proves we don’t need human interaction to have a good transformers movie. I hope we get more like this in the future. And can we please get more transformers games like the “War for” and “Fall of” Cybertron games
A man can dream though... A man can dream... 😢
I'd do anything for another cybertron game bro shit was fkn peak gaming for me
I don't think "human interaction" was the problem. I think the interactions were cringe, I can watch good kids shows and enjoy them, but the situations and acting were plain stupid even if it was meant for kids. They could have done cool movies with human interactions if they cared more about the stories rather than just the special effects getting all the budget.
@@CalaTecI agree with you on that
7:28 “I’m sparing you, Megatron. I’m letting you go in the name of our past friendship. But I warn you. Even a single step out of line, will result in your permanent end.”
HAMINATIONS-
Dude no. It’s Avatar The Last Airbender
@@BruhAK15 lil bro I know it's avatar I just like the Bryson version
@@CrypticBLU07 ah ok. Sorry about that
@@BruhAK15 it's okay lil bro,I shall forgive you :)
D16 didn't even realize that he did the exact same thing Sentinal did. Right down to taking Megatronus's T cog. He refused to see that he was becoming exactly like Sentinal. With the only difference being Sentinal used honeied words to convince others. And as Megatron, he choses violent actions.
Name me what you will but seeing their frienship in that scene early in the movie when D-16 helps Pax hide in that huge box, Pax gifting him that Megatronus sticker made this hit so hard.
Those damned chopped onions appeared out of nowhere. Also at the end of this fight when you see Megatrons sadness just sitting there silent.
Like he just fully understood what he did and the betrayal of his best friend in the world. Best Transformers movie ever for me.
Optimus prime: megatron.
Megatron: Hello, brother. All of you ponies better scram before I kick all your butts!
@@RowanH-tb1rv Ponies? Were they dropped to My Little Pony?
Also that small flashback to where it all began, after all the adventure, pain and suffering, seeing that flashback scene to simpler times just hits hard, its the moment their friendship was born and its a time of innocence and joy that will never return and will be lost forever.
There's also the fact it slowly fades as time goes on, before getting removed entirely by Sentinel; his last remnant of their friendship stripped away, nothing to remind him of the past...
7:32 "Even when brothers are enemies, they don't stop being brothers."
This clip alone is better than all the live actions
I love the symbolism of Optimus and Megatron Birth. Megatron looks like he's risen but in reality has fallen, by becoming a Monster who just killed his "Brother". Optimus looks like he's fallen but instead Rising up as a Hero, who will lay down his spark for others, so they can have a better future.
One shall stand One shall fall
3:49 I… AM… MEGATRON!!! - Megatron 2024
3:55 Arise, Optimus Prime. - Alpha Trion 2024
D-16 gave himself a name, Alpha Trion gave Orion Pax THE name
This movie takes place millions of years before they even get to earth
as someone who grew watching TFP, 3:05 gave me chills because of this music and the speech, later I discovered that both TFP and Transformers One share the same compositor
also, great movie
5:44 , i like how optimus dodge the shots by hiding his head😂
A nice throwback to when he first try to transform
Seems like mistakes can make defenses.
Reminds me of "Because tony learns from his mistakes"@@minusterry5711
6:06
Primus: If you think I'm funna let you ruin my new son's fresh paint job, then you betta think again!!
This was one of the best final fight, between Optimus and Megatron battle
& the most violent fight between them I have ever seen
@@tomfitzpatrick7335 Yet there were no casualties whatsoever.
Lol this ain't final battle this is just the start
@@weebvsreviewch9484 He means the final battle of the movie.
1:17 One shall stand... one shall fall...
I love this 👏👏👏
Cringe
@@ShannonRedhead-p7zkys
4:48 revenge of the fallen.
And then one will rise
Can I just say, I absolutely adore how creative both Optimus and Megatron were with their transformations and switching between forms and even improvising mid battle. Megatron reattaching his cannon and Optimus swings it down, Optimus using the wheels on the back of his legs in order to try and get Megatron off of him. Also that 1v3 smackdown was just great.
6:45 "Are you Thor the God of Energon Axes?" - Odin
The crossover nobody expected, but everybody needed
@SWR_Quackula Well, considering the original transformers, comics were set in the Marvel universe it could happen but not likely. Of course, other continuites have them in the same univers as Star Trek and another in the Ghostbusters universe and even G4 MLP well transported that world and then the Ponies visited Cybertron so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Thor using his Stormbreaker
“No… That’s Optimus Prime!” - Drift
@@MrDraycanakatheotherbrit
Transformers multiverse is intertwined with the Marvel multiverse
Comics got Earths 120185 (Marvel-UK) and 91274 (Marvel-US))
GI-Joe as well (it, 2005 IDWformers (AKA the HCBU) being stated to be Earth-7642, which has the Distinguished Competition in turn)
Now this is a turning point for both respective characters!
4:27 "MEGATRON THATS A DAMN WOMAN U CANT JUST DO THAT-"
This is by far my favorite Transformers fight because they're actively transforming while fighting.
5:17 cant ever get enough of Optimus' battlemask
A very pleasant surprise from this movie. Been 30 years since I watched my first Transformers movie, this did a really good job bringing you back to the early days with the icing on the cake being we finally get to see what drove the ideological wedge between Optimus Prime and Megatron. The live action is nice eye candy but this is the story I want to dive back into.
The roar from the crowd in the theater when Prime erupted out the ground and landed was insane!
I love their rivalry the most, because prime and megatron agree that they're still brothers in the end. No matter how much they pester each other, if it came down to it, they will look after each other
Usually when threats like Unicron and the Shatter Glass universe are involved
@girl1213 Another thing to point out, is that Megatron usually sees reason after he sells his soul to Unicron and becomes Galvatron. It takes putting Megatron in a position where he literally cannot _think_ without Unicron's approval, to get the message through to him.
@@kingcamelot1395 Not if they're going to bring in Unicron in this series at this point, but the fact that we saw Primus and his transformation into Cybertron hints at the possibility.
But it's not a sure thing since this movie was focusing on the Origin of Megatron and Optimus Prime and they're acknowledged to be "young men" at this point in their lives. Usually it's well into the future when Unicron appears.
@@girl1213 The point being that is usually how Megatron sees reason, through his slavery to Unicron. I said nothing about the _when,_ but the _how._
@girl1213 In fact, the film's art book nicknamed the cave where the primes' bodies are like the unicron mouth, so there's a good chance that unicron does exist in this continuity
And thus, the battle between the Autobots and Decepticons was born. One side was fighting for righteousness and peace, the other for destruction and vengeance, to destroy anybot who defied their beliefs, or deceived them. But not just a battle between two sides, a battle between those who were once brothers and sisters.
5:57 the most chill "Ah!" ever!
It's like that elimination sound effect from Counter-Strike
He's a chill guy
Since Optimus had all 13 Primes strength and power. Megatron maybe little bit hurt him, that's why he feels the pain. Optimus and Megatron both had Megatronus strength
classic optimus
That’s a chill optimus
2:24
"You want a piece of me!?"
*"NO! I want two!!"*
😂😂😂😂😂
Naaaaaaah 💀💀💀
Bayverse Jazz treatment right there.
"You have committed crimes against Cybertron and its citizens. What say you in your defense?"
6:28 I just love how Prime’s smoothness in this sequence feels natural
6:20 Is anyone gonna talk about how awesome Optimus Prime is with that battle axe hand 🪓😎😳😁😘❤️💙
No not really every transformers prime have a special power and only unlock it if primus allowed it
what i loved about this fight is something you don't see in other transformers media, that i can remember and i haven't read the comics. is the unique usage of their transformations and partial transformations.
2:25"No, I want two!"
I understood that Reference, Poor Jazz
@@gpfhantom1890I understood THAT reference, cap 😂
He give sentinel a jazz treatment 🗿
Jazz:"First Time?"
Brian Tyree Henry really out did himself with his incredible performance and his deep understanding of Megatron since always wanted to play the villains. Every villain is a hero of his and her own Story.
D-16 is not only a product of Cybertron’s corrupted system and takes on Sentinel Prime’s oppression though violent means all the social injustices he had experiences forged his transcendence into Megatron and building up to a rivalry with Orion turned Optimus Prime (due to wanting the same goal of a unified Cybertron but have different viewpoints).
But their friendship is doomed since they discovered that shocking realization their leader Sentinel Prime had sold out Cybertron to the Quintessons after betraying his fellow Prime brothers and sisters, and ruled his planet through oppression. D-16 has put too much faith in the system he has held on to until his worldview was shattered that boils up to anger and a personal vengeance after being suffered of the social injustices while Orion still kept his optimism by exposing the truth of Sentinel's corruption. Before entering the core of Cybertron, Orion is willfully sacrificed his life for the sake of his brother’s mortality but that effort is in vain.
This what makes D-16 a much more of a compelling hero-turned-villain and tragic character in Transformers history. And the rift between two brothers. Both D-16 and Orion really wanted a unified Cybertron but each have different ways to bringing it into fruition.
Real
Well said
I don't know. It felt like he went completely insane in this movie. I don't find it compelling at all
@@xanderguldie D-16 was tortured by Sentinel Prime who crudely welded the face of Megatronus Prime decal on his chest with glee previously. So yeah he really wants to tear Sentinel apart and did exactly that.
Yea, when D-16 said he would never follow another "so called leader" ever again, it really was over for their friendship. There never was any chance of Orion as Optimus Prime reconciling with him-at least, not so soon after his killing of Sentinel.
Honestly this is my favorite transformers movie now. I always wanted to see megaton and primes past
3:11 the transformers prime theme song 🥹🫠❤️
I know man
Yup
When the first trailer dropped I expected this movie to be extremely juvenile and MCU like. I finally gave it a shot a couple of weeks ago and I enjoyed the movie. The marketing for this was the only reason this movie bombed. It’s surprisingly good.
MCU has some great mature movies....you can't put their genres on one box
@ I’m glad you said some.
I am the biggest Transformers fan in my family, and from the first trailer, I almost didn’t watch it in theaters. I’m glad I was able to watch it twice in the theaters in 3D!
You can sense the raw emotion in their fight. One fights to save his planet without killing his former friend and the other fights to force change while cutting ties with his weak past. very good.
3:50 I AM MEGATRON
ARISE..... Optimus prime
@@foxstonie2785megatron: burn it down all of it!
@@АленаСкаредина Starscream: ALL HAIL MEGATRON
B-127: he's gonna kill everyone
Elita 1: We have to stop him, c'mon!
@@Mattzilla_editz elita one: stop! Its over!
@@АленаСкаредина Megatron: IT'S OVER, WHEN EVERY LAST OF HIS BOTS IS DEAD
look at starscream at 6:37, he tried to do the move he did on d-16 when they first meet and fought
Well, he wasn't successful as Optimus was far more stronger and 6:40 yeeted him.
3:23 “THE MATRIX OF *LEDURSHIP!”*
0:29 that shot was brutal
It was hollow purple
A friend of mine cried when she saw that moment with her boyfriend. It was her first time seeing something transformers between both I was like vector sigma
@@blueraccoon1088Well whoever her boyfriend tell him he won
@oneshotez your saying elita-1 or someone :/
It's always "brutal" In every continuity.
One small detail I loved while watching this moive is the Orange starts to turn red little by little in D-16 eyes after learning what Sentinel Prime did.
Shows how Megatron was born from despair and loss of hope rather than just appearing out of nowhere. He's a creation of a young bot losing his sense of self and falling into hopelessness
The fight choreography is insane. I prefer this way more than the sloppy slowmo Bay stuff. This one makes such a creative use of the transformations and weapons as well.
Most Transformers films: just the same thing.
One: finally something more original, yet more tragic.
the music in this whole part of the movie is really underrated,the scene was already heavy with both departing their past and changing and evolving to what they are now but the sound makes the fall and rise more impactful...
Megatron: Wait...wait....no!
* explosion * * all gasp *
Bumblebee: Optimus?
Cliffjumper: Optimus! Sir! Huh?
Elsa: * gasp * Optimus! Oh. Optimus! No, no! Please, no. * sobs * * wind whistling * elder tortoise: it's too late. If he were alive, he would say....
Optimus Prime: Get out of the way! Elsa: * gasp * spike: wow, you sound just like him. Mandalorian: look. Optimus prime: get out of the way! Elitia: he did it! Bumblebee: he's riding the sun. * Optimus Prime shouts * Bumblebee: but not very well. Everybody out of the way! * Optimus Prime grunts * Elsa: Optimus? You blew up megatron for me?
I honestly cry a bit when i watch this scene. That how the 2 friends who treats each other like their own blood brothers turned into the most iconic enemy in the decedes. If Transformers Two every released, i hope that Megatron will have his own redemption.
I love how he switched the energon axe from one hand to the other.
4:59 one shall stand one shall fall
Why throw away your life so recklessly?
Transformers Movie (1986)
@@cobracorporal6738 that’s a question you should ask yourself,Megatron
@@edicus_18moffett57No! I'll crush you with my bare hands! - 5:18
Those should be the titles of the sequels. Transformers: One Shall Stand then Transformers: One Shall Fall
Optimus prime: I'm back mothertrucker
Optimus was fighting off Megatron, Starscream, Shockwave, and Soundwave at once while expertly using their own weapons against them. One of the greatest OP moments and best action scenes in the franchise.
the fight scene is actually so good, it's been awhile since i've watch an actual transformer fight. like for real they keep going back and forth different weapons this is how i actually imagine a transformer fight would be.
4:37 Foreshadowing of Bumblebee losing his voice box to Megatron in the future.
Maybe it won't have to happen in this new timeline. Bumblebee doesn't always have to be mute.
@@stephenbyrne2170 Almost everyone he interacted with wanted him to shut up, so I'm pretty sure he will be mute.
@@stephenbyrne2170idk through out the movie they referenced bumble bee being mute in other canons like when the squad saw the surface bee said “Im Speechless”
@@animator049 I'd imagine it's more of a jab at the Bayverse version that might as well be a completely different character from the original.
It was blitzwing who did that