Why Darth Vader Saw the Double Bladed Lightsaber as PURE WEAKNESS

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  • @TheCodeTinkerer
    @TheCodeTinkerer หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    In the first Darth Bane novel it is specifically told by his mentor Khasim (blademaster), that the double blade is inferior compared to a single blade, because you can only attack with one blade at a time in 1vs1. He further explains that two single blades trumps other forms if you are strong enough in your hands.
    Darth Bane resorts to his force abilities to win the duel.

    • @VanTesla
      @VanTesla หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I don't know why TH-cam algorithm shadow banned my first reply... I was just adding context that Darth Bane had no knowledge of his masters dual wielding form. So he decided to focus on using his advantage in the force rather than pure saber combat.

    • @TheCodeTinkerer
      @TheCodeTinkerer หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @VanTesla exactly - when khasim changed to two individual sabers Bane changed to using the force.

    • @zilari3662
      @zilari3662 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yet Darth Bane lost to his apprentice who used a double bladed lightsaber

    • @TheCodeTinkerer
      @TheCodeTinkerer หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zilari3662 only red book 1

    • @an-animal-lover
      @an-animal-lover หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@zilari3662context matters. He dominated her in lightsaber combat. It was only when she used her Sith Sorcery, something Bane had no skill in, that she won the fight

  • @SilkyJohnson625
    @SilkyJohnson625 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    I love that he takes the same mindset as his greatest lightsaber opponent. Dooku was nearly the best for a reason. Dooku's problem was he was too rigid and Vader learns from that too.

    • @RomanVasquez-lf4tb
      @RomanVasquez-lf4tb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Personally I feel if dooku somehow stayed alive for another 20 years somehow in exile away from the main story, he’d be as strong as Jedi leia solo in the EU was. (Not if she reached her full potential tho)

    • @sniperarcher7630
      @sniperarcher7630 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have been star wars fan since the movies and Clone Wars series and back then i was a kid. It was always so much fun to watch star wars series and movies and it still is as long as it's not something like acolyte series.
      Or anywhere to close to it

    • @RomanVasquez-lf4tb
      @RomanVasquez-lf4tb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @ honestly I can agree I’m a 20/yo but was raised on 80/90s era Star Wars and honestly speaking, Disney Star Wars isn’t worse quality of writing than Lucas they should’ve made a new universe fully instead of a soft reboot.
      It’s strange that they didn’t and now they’re forced too write with heavy outside influence which makes the quality suck for a lot of fans,
      the same thing happened with books like crystal star/revan novels and the even fans didn’t like the prequels for 10 years after a generation was raised on it essentially.
      All these things I’ve listed have many differences in Star Wars media as how they were made and ownership but they do share one connection and that’s the fact that whoever wrote them were trying to pander for money. Instead of just writing Star Wars getting rich

    • @an-animal-lover
      @an-animal-lover หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RomanVasquez-lf4tbI don't understand. When you say "forced to write with heavy outside influence" what do you mean?

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dooku's style wasn't rigid. It is the style that suited him as a nobleman, and it reflected his philosophy.

  • @Ravenfanatic5
    @Ravenfanatic5 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    If only it were possible to see Vader test his theory out on Exar Kun

    • @jawndough7807
      @jawndough7807 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      He would’ve gotten slaughtered lol

    • @GGBlaster
      @GGBlaster หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ⁠@@jawndough7807I don’t know, Vader is pretty unfazed by almost everything. If Exar can’t catch him off guard, Vader will more than likely win.

    • @Lego_Bro2
      @Lego_Bro2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@GGBlasterbro, even if Vader is preparing Exar is still too fast compared to Vader, y’all are actually overestimating Vader’s abilities

    • @ghostface4404
      @ghostface4404 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@GGBlaster Kun has never lost in a 1 on 1 dual. Vader? lol, no.

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Exar would force flick him and kill vader
      To actually further back my proof, darth traya siad back then in the old republic, rhe sith were playing with toys compared to exar kun and that sith era, where the force was way srronger.
      The ONLY Old Republic Vader can stand against is his mirror, malgus. And even then malgus may slap him around.
      Palpatine has a mirror from back then too, darth nihilus. He would eipe out palp and vader in a split second

  • @Nedzilla345
    @Nedzilla345 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    This intro is basically every Sith's view of their combat skills.

  • @teodoraustin3505
    @teodoraustin3505 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    "Twice the pride, double the fall"

    • @hitmixhyepock9405
      @hitmixhyepock9405 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As he got both hands cut off...and then his head.

    • @nafizulsanko
      @nafizulsanko หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can it be pride if it's true. Also vader knows people like luke or palpatine who are more powerful then him. It's not pride it's facts

  • @Darth_Cornpop
    @Darth_Cornpop หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    "Finally, something on which we can both agree..."
    -Count Dooku, probably

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You know it! 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣

    • @shadowbeast2276
      @shadowbeast2276 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most likely

    • @dreadrath
      @dreadrath หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep. Pretty much. The only other opinion I can think of that Anakin even remotely aligned with Dooku on (Jedi Anakin and Jedi Dooku not full dark side Sith Dooku and Anakin) was the idea that the jedi needed to branch out and start helping people in the outer rim and worlds outside of the republic, but even there they had totally different ideas of how to go about it. But when it comes to lightsaber combat, Vader and Dooku are very much on the same wave length.

    • @JustinMinckley
      @JustinMinckley หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dooku would laugh because of how Vader has lost half his body

  • @laoman888
    @laoman888 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    I love how the Sith just all hate on each other the whole time 😂

    • @UnexpectedWonder
      @UnexpectedWonder หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely! 😁😁🤣🤣😭😭

    • @GGBlaster
      @GGBlaster หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Gotta put others down to lift yourself up 😂 (don’t do that btw)

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's why sith r weak. Dark siders are always stronger

    • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
      @MosEisleyCantinaStories หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And no sith and dark side are NOT one in the same

    • @mercury13
      @mercury13 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reminds me of the political left

  • @bunkydoes8048
    @bunkydoes8048 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Grievous : Oh, I see how it is 😢

  • @izenai3122
    @izenai3122 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    "I studied under Dooku" < "Dooku schooled me fr"

    • @punishedvenomsnake716
      @punishedvenomsnake716 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He really chose a more flowery way to describe Dooku's assbeatings 😂

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Interesting way to say Dooku kicked his ass 9 times outta 10. Just like Dooku used the phrase "certain point of view..." Instead of just admitting he WAS lying there

  • @phatphox79
    @phatphox79 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    You know what the best part of a Doubled-bladed lightsaber? You don't always need to have the other blade emitted.

    • @GriffenSpadeIsBack
      @GriffenSpadeIsBack หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      A 3rd person who done research for this matter. Well Done!

    • @josephalonzo1059
      @josephalonzo1059 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That mindset is truly a Sith mentality, especially when you think about how an opponent(s) would react when you ignite the second blade and it catches them offguard

    • @ThePOSM
      @ThePOSM หลายเดือนก่อน

      & have the saber staff be detachable :p

    • @travisnell6849
      @travisnell6849 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josephalonzo1059 That's one part of the acolyte that I liked. Just randomly having the second shortsaber to surprise with.

    • @spiffs2septims730
      @spiffs2septims730 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would simply wait for my opponent's unignited emitter to begin to pass over their body, then use the force to turn it on. Maybe add a little push to the blade facing me to bisect the fool with his own weapon. For shame.

  • @stephenhendrickson9686
    @stephenhendrickson9686 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Trickery was a crutch, but deceit was not a weakness? Feels contradictory

  • @RumRunneerFilms
    @RumRunneerFilms 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Considering Sidious feelings that the light saber was a quaint and outdated weapon of the Jedi, this focus on the blade shows that even in the depths of the Dark Side, Vader continued to rebel against his master.

  • @aster4jaden
    @aster4jaden หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    The first time Anakin and Dooku could probably agree on.

  • @recompostion
    @recompostion หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Didn’t Sideous think he was above using his light sabers? He hid his last one in a statue like someone with credit issues putting their card in a cup of water in the freezer.

  • @timobrien7382
    @timobrien7382 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You're killing it Stupes!!! Great video man, always love these introspectives of characters!!! I love the idea of Dooku, being an unofficial master/teacher to Anakin/Vader, which makes sense considering all the duels they had.

  • @SilasSmith-u2z
    @SilasSmith-u2z หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Freaking awesome video Stupendous always love these Vader videos and happy Friday and hope you have a great rest of your day

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Happy Friday everyone!

  • @Kris-ym2zr
    @Kris-ym2zr หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That was a pretty cool and eye opening video, many thanks. I love the nuances in how he thought compared to others

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper1064 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the first video I’ve seen from you in a very long time that covers the simplicity the beauty the strength the power and the skill set as well as the explanation and dominance of Lightsaber combat prowess and discipline of Darth Vader.

  • @sirtriston8882
    @sirtriston8882 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The image at 0:17 is hilarious. The duel saber character could lean backwards keeping his head and shoulders away from the saber lock. Then using his left arm thrust forward with the opposite end of the blade. Duel sabers do have an advantage. 1st block 2nd reposition body is a more favorable stance 3rd use the other end to slice opponent in half.

    • @GriffenSpadeIsBack
      @GriffenSpadeIsBack หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You also have to take into account the weapons weaknesses which are still major issue when against a single bladed user who has 3!!!! saber form techniques into a single combat form. Don't get me wrong double bladed sabers do offer a second blade which would and does help but you also need to know that when you have both blades ignited and as stated in video you have to perform wide swings compared to single bladed sabers and yes you can have 1 blade ignited on the duelbladed saber but then you will then rely on a tatic that is frowned upon by both jedi and sith alike which is igniting the second blade in mid combat so in end you are weak in vaders eyes because you are no longer relying on your skill.

  • @YourSpaceMyFace
    @YourSpaceMyFace หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this channel and community, lots of disagreements and debates yet done with grace and humour, love you all may the force be wil y'all, light or dark.

  • @kaidorade1317
    @kaidorade1317 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    He learned on geanosis that a true warrior needs only a single blade

    • @herbalyzoltan409
      @herbalyzoltan409 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And a single hand...

    • @hitmixhyepock9405
      @hitmixhyepock9405 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whom was then killed with 2 blades

  • @GodOfTriforce17
    @GodOfTriforce17 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Truth be told it is somewhat impractical, but what can you say, it looks cool as hell

  • @peterga3658
    @peterga3658 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i would like longer videos . use them to sleep/work/gym . Happy new year everyone

  • @mung01re
    @mung01re หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You’d think he’d be cooler about it. It’s not like he has anything left to accidentally chop off.

  • @pullo5518
    @pullo5518 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent video, as always.

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is great description! Vader's analysis of lightsaber combat is perfect. Nothing to add. Perfectly said. Dooku taught him a lot,as Anakin. See you in next holocron

    • @baki484
      @baki484 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm sure you've seen the thorough breakdown of Vader's style by @Jensaarai1.

  • @nearoikthadorbadwagon1224
    @nearoikthadorbadwagon1224 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the force, but by our skills with a light saber” count Dooku attack of the clones

  • @azrael5185
    @azrael5185 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Vader wasn’t even granted the rank of Jedi Master 😂

  • @mavraszunwoody2527
    @mavraszunwoody2527 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There was Ezra Bridgers blaster-saber that while a single saber gave the wielder a far superior range over the staff saber. And also more tricky to the opponent because in a saber lock just need to twist the handle a little bit and theres a blaster aimed at the face.

    • @GriffenSpadeIsBack
      @GriffenSpadeIsBack หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vader will most likely call it as a sign of weakness because at that point you are no longer relying on your mastery of the saber/saber combat and only the blaster. In short if vader came across a jedi let alone a force sensitive who had such saber vader would ultimately win and you also have to take into account of when ezra had the weapon he was still a padawan and not a jedi knight/master yet and if i remember correctly the lightsaber got destroyed i just dont remember how.

    • @mavraszunwoody2527
      @mavraszunwoody2527 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GriffenSpadeIsBack But thats the thing Vader had Decades of time to perfect his form where as someone like Ezra was flying by the seat of his pants, and in that situation you used anything and everything to, if not win, at least survive.
      And it got destroyed at the temple on Malechor where Ezra first met Maul. I think Vader was the one who destroyed it.

  • @LunchboxMinistries
    @LunchboxMinistries หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "A man who could defeat any challenge, not through reliance on trick, skill, or tools, but through sheer skill."

    • @Keller5327LV
      @Keller5327LV หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...was what? Finish the thought.

    • @LunchboxMinistries
      @LunchboxMinistries หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @Keller5327LV that is one of the many descriptions for Vader quoted directly from the video

    • @hitmixhyepock9405
      @hitmixhyepock9405 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As he uses the force......which is a tool, trick and skill ......

    • @Keller5327LV
      @Keller5327LV หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LunchboxMinistries got it.

  • @patrickramos9251
    @patrickramos9251 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Deceit is a skill that requires another. Deceit is useless in solo minecraft, and solo anything. It is useless in conquering oneself.

    • @kyleray8504
      @kyleray8504 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Did not expect to see something here that made me philosophize. Bastard! It’s the weekend! You made me think! Thank you ❤

    • @LaMortesAbyss
      @LaMortesAbyss หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vader in a nutshell.

  • @Lucky-mm9uk
    @Lucky-mm9uk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s like guitar playing. Effects are cool and can add flavor but also cover mistakes. Sounding wicked while playing clean is the ultimate show of skill. Even if you don’t always want or use that sound.

  • @theloneeaglegaming5565
    @theloneeaglegaming5565 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Exar Kun would disagree.

    • @GriffenSpadeIsBack
      @GriffenSpadeIsBack หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you actually done research to see if exar has trained in 1 or more saber styles before saying exar will basically win?

    • @jcaesar19871
      @jcaesar19871 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GriffenSpadeIsBack Vader ain't taking on Exar Kun.

    • @datboielijah1234
      @datboielijah1234 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jcaesar19871quit glazing

  • @Red-jr9qm
    @Red-jr9qm หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I find this mindset interesting for Vader because, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how well the other dualists were if they are dead. If a cheap trick here or an unfair advantage there causes your opponent to fall, did it matter how much better at one fighting style they were?

    • @LaMortesAbyss
      @LaMortesAbyss หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think we're going to the Sith academy. I couldn't agree more.

    • @an-animal-lover
      @an-animal-lover หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Honor is for the living. Dead is dead"-Darth Bane

  • @asdfg1346on
    @asdfg1346on หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would really like it if you would make videos about more obscure lore and stories on star wars, like the comics that are not mainstream and that we the average fans don't have the time to read but would definitely listen to them.

  • @carlosgarza400
    @carlosgarza400 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These quotes and make the videos, both the content and title, more fascinating

  • @JacobBrennenstuhl
    @JacobBrennenstuhl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What you never hear about Jar'kai and dual wielding is a jedi wielding an off-hand saber for reasons akin to a parrying dagger, to allow for better counterattacks. Better yet, imagine parrying with a cortosis-coated parrying dagger.

  • @lugo5678
    @lugo5678 หลายเดือนก่อน +272

    Vader was categorically incapable of using a double blade and rather than admitting that his physical disability barred him from using that weapon he buried himself in his ego and pretended he was above it.

    • @danielsuarez3198
      @danielsuarez3198 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Was about to write something similar, and even when he was whole, he still mediocre at it.

    • @BenAri18
      @BenAri18 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      "True sith don't need lightsabers" - Darth Sidious, Palpatine taught Vader to use his saber only to mock jedi but his true mastery like his master Sidious was in using the force in a superior way to other jedi and sith

    • @slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk
      @slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I don't know where this comes from, but it's pure nonsense. The double bladed lightsaber takes way more skill to use. To call skill a weakness is just dumb.

    • @lugo5678
      @lugo5678 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@BenAri18 Vader never learned that lesson; and Sidious lost most of the saber fights we see him in.

    • @SinfulSquirrel
      @SinfulSquirrel หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nothing but truth spoken 👏

  • @joliver81
    @joliver81 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Moving one blade toy ward your opponent means your moving one blade toward yourself. Having the added risk of concerning oneself with what to do and what not to do puts the combatant at risk.
    One glancing blow or misstep and you’re just as likely to remove your own head as having someone else remove it for you.😂

  • @fatesend8637
    @fatesend8637 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe each has its merits. The single blade style gives you a tighter defense and a free hand to control the force. You can also hold it with two hands for power strikes. Switching between one and two handed grips on the single saber is pretty good. Dual wielding styles seems to rely more on slashing and less on extraneous force abilities. The double bladed saber seems to be a more offensive oriented combination that gives a bit of both. You get more blade real estate while potentially allowing a free hand for the force attacks. But the double saber in Exar Kun's hands could be a double or single blade. Kun had a more versatile style and blade than we see from most double blade saber wielders. Honestly, I think Kun mops the floor with Vader unless plot armor changes something.

  • @didixtar2863
    @didixtar2863 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dual bladed saber is my favorite stance in Jedi Survivor 😂😂😂

  • @johnwebb4499
    @johnwebb4499 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Darth Maul actually faught better with one blade than two.

  • @AbramHarper
    @AbramHarper หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He actually agreed with Dooku? Wooooow. I mean Exar Kun, Kas’im, Maul, pretty much every Jedi of the Shan bloodline, and Kao Cen Darach would probably disagree (and rightfully so), but it’s a small victory that Vader and Dooku were on the same page about something.

  • @OriginalMomo
    @OriginalMomo หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Vader never trained under Dooku, he killed Dooku as Anakin.

    • @tabbylion2079
      @tabbylion2079 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was wondering if he was talking about another character for the whole video

    • @GriffenSpadeIsBack
      @GriffenSpadeIsBack หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      you didnt hear properly even though "dooku wasnt his master anakin still learned much from dooku in both fights with him" as stated in the video and much more.

    • @dreadrath
      @dreadrath หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Vader meant it in a more abstract sense. There's an old saying that goes something like "We learn as much if not more from our enemies than we do our mentors." I'm probably botching the wording, dunno where the sayings from either, but it holds true here since Anakin learned a lot from facing Dooku and even mastered the lightsaber in a bid to surpass him and get payback for Dooku cutting off his hand.

    • @HeavyCrown316
      @HeavyCrown316 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I knew I wasn't crazy. I was like when did this happen?

    • @rodgill9376
      @rodgill9376 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Y’all totally missed the point

  • @Antonio-t6v3d
    @Antonio-t6v3d หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd have to say that Jar'Kai is my favorite style because I am semi-ambidextrous.

  • @JeffreyPruden
    @JeffreyPruden หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I find Vader's view to be rigid to a certain degree. It's not as deep as Dooku's, but there's still short sight. Whatever the weapon and how it's used all depends on the individual and thier preference. There is no singular way to winning in a battle since there's always changes that occur during conflict. Adapting is a key component along with absorbing what is useful and discarding what is useless

    • @GriffenSpadeIsBack
      @GriffenSpadeIsBack หลายเดือนก่อน

      Using tricks that ARE NOT SKILL OF SAID WEAPON IS WEAKNESS.

    • @JeffreyPruden
      @JeffreyPruden หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @GriffenSpadeIsBack Weapons and tricks are each separate strengths that can be used in conjunction with each other by the user. NOT USING ALL THAT IS IN YOUR INVENTORY IS WEAKNESS

  • @TherealKRG-d7p
    @TherealKRG-d7p หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imo Anakin’s main problem was that he was too narrow minded in on how his instructors tried to teach him. Instead of learning more knowledge on the force he would focus on lightsaber combat. His lack of force is why he and Obi Wan stalemated in their force push despite Anakin’s raw strength in the force.
    My point is Anakin was an expert duelist due to him being arrogant and closed minded is what eventually led to his downfall and never reaching his full potential (As well as Dooku)
    Honestly who can blame them 🤷‍♂️

  • @nategraham6946
    @nategraham6946 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jar Kai is not a form 6 variant. It is not the same thing that Djem So is to Shien in form 5, or Vaapad is to Juyo in form 7. Jar Kai simply benefits from the versatility mindset that form 6 emphasizes.

  • @camaronpotts4214
    @camaronpotts4214 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You have to be really good to be effective with a twinblade. Which is why vader is right when he says they're unnecessarily complex. Twinblades are cool, but really impractical

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vader only believed they were unnecessarily complex because he lacked both the strength and dexterity that was needed to properly wield them. In fact, i believe that good argument can be made that the more advanced wielders of double bladed lightsabers were more talented than anyone who only used 1 since it is more difficult to master. It is especially noteworthy that Exar NEVER lost a duel with this weapon while Vader lost multiple duels using 1 blade.

    • @camaronpotts4214
      @camaronpotts4214 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @decepticonxhunter4850 I agree. They aren't impractical because they require more strength or dexterity, though vader probably did lack the dexterity. They're impractical because they limit range of motion and are poorly weighted. Exar's lightsabre was particularly bad in this regard because the handle was so small so it would've been horribly weighted. Not saying he was bad, just made a bad choice of weapon. If anything, I think that makes Exar Kun even more impressive because not only did he win every fight, but he did it while using a really poorly designed weapon. Ultimately though, it's star wars. It's all good fun and rule of cool will always win and, silly as they may be, twinblades are very cool

  • @zedbruh7212
    @zedbruh7212 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vader is so savage
    His philosophy on saber combat is awesome
    I love that he still values discipline and hates shortcuts and flash
    His use of the duel phase is awsome
    Who do you guys think wins between exar and vader
    Idk i think its close
    Imo Probably exar because of vaders weakness to lightning

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly i think would be an even duel until Vader gets the upper hand in saber fights because it's stated that at that point he was the best duelist at that point but Exar's techniques would prove too much for Vader

  • @GregWhipple
    @GregWhipple หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is a perfect illustration of why Anakin fell. He was always narrow-minded and arrogant. He knew better than you. Even his approach to Jedi training was heavily "Yeah, yeah... Just show me the technique so I can make it better." People like to lay Vader's existence on Obi-Wan because he upheld the oath he swore to Qui-Gon. Yoda was right to blame himself. When he saw that he could not prevent Anakin being trained, he let a BRAND NEW Master train him. Yoda should have assigned him a more experienced mentor, and had Obi-Wan assist. But that would fly in the face of the ridiculous Jedi notion that attachments are bad, so we'll just let this poor guy who just lost his own Master torture himself for decades over a failing that wasn't even his! I swear... these friggin' Jedi.

    • @JustinMinckley
      @JustinMinckley หลายเดือนก่อน

      this the response i was waiting on

  • @andreicc201
    @andreicc201 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dooku would be proud of Vader picking up his ideology

  • @mikael557
    @mikael557 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Exar Kun: "Hold my resolve"

  • @Trylen
    @Trylen หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Makes me think about how Darth Bane looked at sabers

  • @theghosteplayers7590
    @theghosteplayers7590 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would also like to point out the the inquisitors used double bladed + spinning lightsabers who just so happened to be under the command of Darth Vader

    • @stevenceja4706
      @stevenceja4706 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vader hated the Inqusitors, so giving them double bladed lightsabers was probably his way of mocking them.

  • @michaelwelch4475
    @michaelwelch4475 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Except that Dooku was defeated by Anakin before turning Sith, so could not be tutored by him. Wow, how could you miss that detail

    • @rodgill9376
      @rodgill9376 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally missing the point bud

  • @anthonycroci2013
    @anthonycroci2013 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's the user not the weapon that matters

  • @JoeyCruz-gh9og
    @JoeyCruz-gh9og หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maul: Oh my gosh, Vader, I'm huge fan of your work 😃
    Vader: You're a P S Y

  • @0predaking0
    @0predaking0 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Vader roasted Sidious, Maul, Savage, and all of those who use double bladed or where user of Jarkai

    • @abstraction6212
      @abstraction6212 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      **Exar Kun knocks**
      Wats gud

    • @Ravenfanatic5
      @Ravenfanatic5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@abstraction6212 Exar: "I heard you were talking trash about me. This is coming from a walking torso. Let's test that theory of yours, Vader." Lightsaber ignites
      Vader: "😳O snap."

    • @abstraction6212
      @abstraction6212 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ravenfanatic5 th-cam.com/video/wAdHZtB_n9I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4cqwtvgx5gYB5ciB

    • @AbramHarper
      @AbramHarper หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Ravenfanatic5He does not want the smoke with Exar.

    • @BenAri18
      @BenAri18 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AbramHarper Vader is much more powerful than Kun lmao, u old republic fans love to overpower those characters despite lucas stating vader and palpatine to be the most powerful sith

  • @Andrew-zu7yn
    @Andrew-zu7yn หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Exar kun: killed the chancellor and his master in the same day and WALKED out of there.
    Vader: Stops the evil chancellor from getting killed, then cries about. Goes up against his Master and loose the majority of his limbs and his wife.
    Vader just being salty.

  • @lachlanbold8319
    @lachlanbold8319 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Say what you will about Vader, but he makes evil look good.

  • @NicholasWeaver-e3b
    @NicholasWeaver-e3b หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A single blade is a balanced approach to combat, but to say a dual bladed saber is weaker, isn’t necessary true.
    With a single blade, you can thrust at your opponent in a rapier like style. But the single blade means that you can only spin the saber so fast. A dual bladed saber can spin twice as fast easily, and where you do need to use wide sweeping strokes, the dual bladed saber can deal with hordes of enemies without much difficulty.
    It’s ultimately up to the user to determine which stance is better for them. If they prefer the traditional approach, if they have a weakness that requires compensation, or if they simply want to be different, these all need to be considered to determine which stance is best for them.

    • @GriffenSpadeIsBack
      @GriffenSpadeIsBack หลายเดือนก่อน

      Single blade is not balance type especially considering it still outbeats duelsabers. Have yet to see any sith or jedi use single blades sabers as rapiers so its clear to me you didnt do research before commenting let along watch the films(fk disney ones) let alone play any starwars game. Not a single time did they use single bladed saber as a rapier. Only sith/jedi who did was and i quote Dooku and only Dooku for the fact of how he has made his hilt for his saber which is curved.

    • @NicholasWeaver-e3b
      @NicholasWeaver-e3b หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Incorrect Griffen!
      I’ve watched all of the movies, most of the shows (clone wars included) and have played several Star Wars games!
      Dooku used his saber like a rapier, and so did Cal Kestis, an order 66 survivor. And in the Jedi Survivor (the very same game where Cal used his saber like a rapier) the single blades stance is referred to as a perfectly balanced stance, suitable for all situations.
      Calling me out on a few small mistakes is one thing, but I never comment about anything unless I’ve done a lot of research on the subject. I assure you, I’m not some idiot…

  • @SollieWalker1906
    @SollieWalker1906 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🙄Neither Count Dooku nor Lord Vader ever faced off against Exar Kun in battle. 😏 Because he would have washed and folded both of them.

  • @DevinSmith-q5m
    @DevinSmith-q5m หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would like to know vaders thoughts on the cross guard saber

  • @zemgad
    @zemgad หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only way to prove this is to have Vader and Exar face off in a duel

  • @presspaws8745
    @presspaws8745 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd like to see Vader 1v1 Exar Kun and then say that when he's Torso Boy again

  • @MenBeingHappy
    @MenBeingHappy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most enjoyable thing about Vader is how much of his relatable masculine pettiness still shows through. I said the same thing about lifting heavy… after my injuries prevented lifting heavy 😂

  • @TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524
    @TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Double-bladed lightsabers required high mobility. Vader relied on strength.
    That being said, double bladed lightsabers could also be used double handed by extinguishing one side of the weapon. That means it could be wielded like a Nodachi which allowed for more variation in Forms.

  • @richardsuggs8108
    @richardsuggs8108 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With two light sabers one could block your opponent’s blade and still attack with the other saber.

  • @psycake1310
    @psycake1310 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it amusing that each Sith will just tear into each other, about how 'inferior' their predecessors were. Darth Vader focuses on a single bladed lightsaber, instead of using a double-bladed saber or even dual wielding.. Largely because of the shortcomings Anakin experienced with while encountering Count Dooku for the first time.
    Despite wielding two lightsabers against Darth Tyrannus, Dooku was able to slip through and bypass Anakin's excessive defenses, and through sheer skill and precision of Form 2 Makashi, was easily able to dismantle one of them. Dooku then claimed Anakin's right arm as well, not through trickery, but an act of blade mastery. It really comes to show how Darth Vader refined himself and his combat approach after each major defeat he endured.

  • @sydneyg2235
    @sydneyg2235 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you make a video on exar kun when thousands of jedis tried to use sever force on him and the ritual he was trying to do

  • @VanTesla
    @VanTesla หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dooku, Sidious, and Vader are some of the best duelist in Star Wars. I find Vader criticism of Exar kinda funny as he admits he has integrated some of his teachings if minor. I find Vader kinda harsh on Exar Kun, given that Exar creations and innovations actually changed combat going forward. Vader doesn't particularly have that as he benefits from the past Sith masters.
    Exar Kun was a Form 6 and 7 master. While Vader is a master of Form 5 and later form 2 due to his fights with Dooku. Too me, Vader, just really wasn't great at jar'kai and didn't really care for Form 6 given his past history. Be it his personal failings like against Dooku in his first bought or seeing the Battle Master in his time Cin Drallig who was the at time master of Form 6.
    Exar Kun never was beaten in single combat before or after he created the Double Bladed lightsaber, if I recall. This was after the said mystery of not knowing how to deal with the new type of lightsaber as well. So I view Vaders' own view on the saber and forms overly critical and biased given his past failings and interactions with them.

  • @TheUnnamed147
    @TheUnnamed147 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Then what about Starkiller??

    • @herbalyzoltan409
      @herbalyzoltan409 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was never meant to be Vader's superior, and his potential was underestimated. I guess he was taught with two lightsabers because it was more practical and it made fights easier for Starkiller.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whom ALSO REPEATEDLY kicked Vader's ass in EU... Yeah, Exar would mop the floor with Vader's cyborg ass an Vader on back his mind has to KNOW that... Being just mad cuz he no longer can move like Starkiller an others can. Exar ISN'T known to have EVER lost a dual. .only 1 person just matched him to a draw. Anakin MIGHT'VE been able to handle himself but there's way more to a fight then what Vader favors. An guys like Exar, Maul an Revan, etc know that. Think Vader probably forgot that for awhile

    • @rodgill9376
      @rodgill9376 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You taking about the original or the clone? Those are two different characters.

  • @Randomthew
    @Randomthew หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    what lightsaber type would you use Wave?

  • @JustinMinckley
    @JustinMinckley หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh my god, imagine this war of words if Kun and Vader ever met and then fought. Exar would prove so much wrong with this and then kick his ass from my p.o.v.

  • @Psych1_-
    @Psych1_- หลายเดือนก่อน

    An example of why Vader wasn't able to overthrow Sidious. Sidious was the master of deception, and manipulation. He had almost all the Jedi wiped out without needing a lightsaber. Vader was a warrior at heart, not the type to do what was necessary to destroy Sidious.

    • @Angelo-nd4lg
      @Angelo-nd4lg หลายเดือนก่อน

      So he's a bum?

    • @Psych1_-
      @Psych1_- หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Angelo-nd4lg No..... A warrior. Darth Vader is more like a dark Samurai, Sidious is more like a highly intelligent, psychopathic politician.

  • @Chris331Cole
    @Chris331Cole หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vader decided he was cool enough already

  • @ScubbaSteve3000
    @ScubbaSteve3000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about 2 sabers in each hand like Starkiller?

  • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
    @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I understand what Vader is speaking about here but my opinion on this is the;
    “Win by any means necessary with any weapon, tactic or trick at your disposal”
    So that’s where I’m at with this here 🔥
    #StarWarsExpandedUniverseFan

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think Vader is missing a point: yes, tricks and advantages can take you so far but combine with technique then you have something special

    • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
      @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @
      Agree with you on so many levels brother ✅
      No matter how Much Vader tried to disassociate himself with the Jedi he was always one deep down because he still would rather fight fair with Combat skills & force powers then fight dirty like Qimir in battle for example 🤷🏾‍♂️.

  • @riveraharper8166
    @riveraharper8166 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vader due to his heavy armor used brute force and short burst attacks.
    He won't use acrobatic styles. And double wilded light saber might require that.

  • @LadyAndreaRose1701
    @LadyAndreaRose1701 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good soldiers watch early, like, subscribe and share

  • @joshpollack4104
    @joshpollack4104 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you be willing to do a video on your thoughts of Vader with a Sith war blade?

  • @kylep.4503
    @kylep.4503 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In some regards Vader has a point. Travis Stevens, an olympic judoka said " anyone can win with a trick... once."
    If once is all you need then youre good, but reliance on a trick to win is a crutch to cover a lack in skillset that will eventually be exposed.
    Using a saber staff isnt a trick, but the way Exar used it initially, def was, and probably intended specifically to defeat his master who was a battlemaster.

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree, tricks are only reliable when you have someone not expecting or prepared but sometimes a trick used only once is more than enough

  • @AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi
    @AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi หลายเดือนก่อน

    One man's sound fighting style is another man's gimmick; think about it.

  • @RoyalPanda117
    @RoyalPanda117 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sooo from my understanding, Vader was just mad he couldn't move around and do those ninja spin slashes like Maul with his low-grade mechanical arms and legs so he would talk shit about the saber type.

  • @kevinhansen8211
    @kevinhansen8211 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if Darth Zannah would have agreed. Her double blade, and Form 3 mastery allowed her to own her opponents, and control the battlefield. She exhausted her prey, or made them grow frustrated, and then...they were hers. She might not have been as big or strong as Bane or Vader, but her speed and skill, and her Sith magic was a mastery that allowed her to destroy her master and help define the early years of the Rule of Two.

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zannah would probably give Vader the middle finger and Vader flipping it back

  • @archades115
    @archades115 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Weak Force Sensitives: Eww! Saberstaffs are cringe!
    Me: *uses a saberstaff because I enjoy it, it is fun*

  • @jshadnot
    @jshadnot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What book is he reading from in the beginning?

  • @LaMortesAbyss
    @LaMortesAbyss หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't one of these videos suggest that Dooku also thought prosthetic limbs to be weak?

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He despised droids and cybernetics, he even said to Anakin in the Novel, and I quote: "Such a shame you replaced your hand for a cybernetic one, a true master would learn to duel with only one hand if it needed"

  • @nategraham6946
    @nategraham6946 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I admit, as you were reading the quote at the beginning, I thought it came from Dooku.

    • @an-animal-lover
      @an-animal-lover หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where does it come from?

  • @mikeharvey9184
    @mikeharvey9184 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And yet, if I remember correctly, he only fought Ashoka to a draw…

    • @baki484
      @baki484 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She was on the backfoot and losing. She only got a cheap shot due to Vader being distracted after he pushed her off the temple and nearly decapitated her had it not been for her daddy Dave's time travel crap. Go back and watch the fight again she was mostly defending against his strikes (barely at that). She got checked immediately when she tried to take the offensive.
      Even starkiller with weakness Vader engineered into him hoped for a stalemate and he still performed better than Ahsoka Tano trained specialized in fighting larger opponents by Anakin and she barely held her own.

  • @IveBeenWithBruma
    @IveBeenWithBruma หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with it is that no one could wield a saber like exar's. It was a single handed grip for a reason.

  • @Cosmicglade
    @Cosmicglade หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    where is that opening speech from vader from? fucking bad ass

  • @alejandronunez5110
    @alejandronunez5110 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Exar Kun begs to fucking differ.

  • @silverpc4611
    @silverpc4611 หลายเดือนก่อน

    exception, the Dark Saber.

  • @kevin-2.1
    @kevin-2.1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would agree with Vader’s theory.

  • @Rickybobby427xyz
    @Rickybobby427xyz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk some saber staff users did well. Like zannahs ability to use the saber staff to defend easier.

  • @jasonbrooks7310
    @jasonbrooks7310 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vader's simplicity came from Obi-wan.

  • @Ricardo20154
    @Ricardo20154 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh the irony! 😂
    I am just going to say two names, Ahsoka Tano and Star Killer.