Faith? | Carl (Theist) - Oklahoma | Atheist Experience 20.47
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- Caller explains the god he believes in and why he believes: mainly through faith. Host talks about how faith isn’t a reliable path to truth and doesn’t lead to much discussion.
The Atheist Experience episode 20.47 for November 27, 2016, with Matt Dillahunty and Don Baker.
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Carl crawled away from this conversation after Matt tore him multiple new ones.
Carl definitely ranks really highly on the 'Stupid, Overconfident, Arrogant, Self-Deluded, Disengenous, Dishonest, and Evasive Caller" list
Yeah, but Carl doesn't care that he's a complete idiot.
He’s probably still rubbing ointment into it.
'Stupid, Overconfident, Arrogant, Self-Deluded, Disengenous, Dishonest, and Evasive Caller", in other words, your typical Christian caller :D
Certainly ...............
That’s a loooooong list
…I’m not saying you’re wrong.
You’re always going to get a good show with calls from Oklahoma.
"God's the only god I know that has a son, besides Greek mythology" he countered his own point 😂
that was him trying to act studied and intelligent that, "i've read about things and stuff".
And showed his ignorance. Most pantheons include familial relations between gods. Thor Odinsson and Horus, son of Osiris being the first two that spring to my mind.
I knew this would be a delicious call right from that line. I wasn't disappointed
@@pandora8610 I wonder if Thor Odinsson has a father... 🤔
@@sugartoothYT🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is by far one of the best calls this show has ever had. I wish more people would watch this and really think about it and be honest with themselves
this guy has called in under various names and tries on the same old garbage arguement
I agree, this is my favorite one along with the smug theist with 12 easy premises who couldn't get past the first one
Yes, I agree, I sent it to my relatives and friends, they acknowledged that it sounds so simple and at the same time so obvious and true
carl admitted that he was not listening, he was just waiting his turn to talk.
As alot of brain- burned belivers do; Evade the truth
At least he admitted it.
Stunning how twisted and convoluted the thought process of this apologist caller is.
That is NOT a " THOUGHT PROCESS " it is BLIND, THOUGHTLESS FOLLOWING LIES .............
Disingenuous, dishonest and duplicitous is how I would describe it. He knew his argument had been destroyed and instead of being honest and admitting it he obfuscated, prevaricated and deflected. A reprehensible individual.
This call was a real tough one to sit through. This guy KNEW he lost this argument, but just blindly keeps going . Cringe-worthy at its finest
Sad thing is, I really dont think he believed he had lost this argument. He says at one point that he wasnt really listening to Matt's question because he was concentrating on what he was going to say. Carl was waiting to respond, not comprehending what was being said. Really hard call to listen to tbh.
@@vincegonzalez4610 also before he mentioned he was focused on his question, there was a question that had to be repeated again, and the very last question he missed also, and not wanting to admit it about missing it and having to ask again, he just assumed it was a yes/no question and responded with yes.
It's like they do as much ducking and weaving that is humanly possible and still get knocked out and then still think they won the fight
CALLED " CULT- FOLLOWING " ...............
"Yeah" --Carl
My favourite definition of faith is Bill Maher's: "The willful suspension of critical thinking".
If only Maher would apply that to his antivaxx position. When it comes to vaccines he's happy to be critical, but without the thinking.
@@RichWoods23 he has many thousands of positions he holds directly not proportional to the evidence
I wonder who had their hand up bill maher when he said that.
Don't we get married based on faith or hire people based on faith
@@Sammie551 No. What would ever give you that idea. There is so much evidence necessary in the hiring process... prediction does not equal faith.
This dude got completely destroyed and he knows it
No, cognative dissonance won't let him recognise that
We all know it and that makes me feel fuzzy!
If he was for real, his breathing took up too much cognitive energy for him to acknowledge anything else. But his leg might have started twitching! 😂
@Viktor Tandofsky Is Slavery Moral? If you can not demonstrate that it is, then you are the FRAUD!(I have a CAPS LOCK KEY TOO, you tool)
Two weeks LATER my CAPSLOCK is also a WORKING FEATURE of MY keyboard!
I'll let the late, great Christopher Hitchens handle this one:
"I'm so sorry to have to tell you this, but you speak as someone who's never heard the opposing argument to their position."
Hey, I read your comment right now and could actually hear his voice in my head as clear as could be. I have watched so many hours of Hitchens that he will always be a part of my life. Damn, I miss him. Thank you Christopher Hitchens for helping me see the truth. Cheers.
@@pdxdonkey553 Gosh. Me too. Heard his voice so clearly.
@PDX / Donkey - I understand and share your experience. I'm just reading "god Is Not Great" and when reading it I "hear" it in Hitchen's voice. Same thing when I read Dawkins. (Why does that particular English accent automatically sound intelligent to the American ear? Lol - Excluding, of course, the fact that those particular individuals are brilliant.)
*Hitchens'.
@@pdxdonkey553 hey me too, I couldn't read that without being in hitchens voice also, weird that our minds do that all the time with just a little bit of suggestion of mentioning his name or some other stimulus
This kid thought he was just going to call in and preach. lol
Yeah
@MusicManMaurice 😂😂true and totally unexpected
Very true, he thought he was calling in to preach. You could hear everytime he would respond. He had his script ready. He was trying to avoid actual conversation.
He admitted he was focused on his own thoughts not LISTENING!
Right. He was like "sorry can you repeat the question, I was thinking about what I was gonna say". Wow
I'm glad somebody else noticed this. Incredible
It was honest of him to be fair
@@cyansloth1763 amidst a mountain of dishonest arguments.
the caller couldn't handle matt asking questions, because it threw them off his script...he hadn't really thought about the argument, he was just repeating it, wanting to read it off some site he got somewhere.....He thought he had a "gotcha" point, but all he wanted to do was proselytize....
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Exactly! And for me that is just further proof these religious faith based people are NPC's.
Tim Hyatt Tim, hell I couldn’t handle mats questions and I agree with him! His intellectual Superiority and depth of knowledge would crush me like a mosquito on lazy pills.
Larry Townsend you did it... you put it into words 😂
@ but presumably you wouldn't be defending such a shit argument filled with fallacies like the caller is, so Matt would have no reason to question you that hard
That's exactly what happened. That's why, the caller couldn't handle the questions, it was throwing him off script.
This never gets old!
It does. These people vote, serve and are in charge of others.
@@KznnyL pretty sure he meant the clip.
Especially the ending
I lost it around 1:36 I'm paraphrasing, deal with it! "why do you believe that yours is the true one and not the others?"
"Cause they're not real."
I fucking love this show
This kid clearly doesn't want to have a discussion. He even stated he was too focused on what he wants to say next instead of having a discussion with Matt and Don.
This kid was so confident in his rationale and got DEMOLISHED every step of the way. Don't bring a paperclip to a nuclear battle! You will get OWNED!
The religious have a script and cannot deviate from it.
Yes you are absolute correct and that makes me think they are NPC's.
Even when shown evidence they still do not deviate from it so what else can i possible think of these people other than they are very likely NPC's
Had to look up NPC (I’m old)! Thanks for teaching me something today!
"The religious have a script and cannot deviate from it." Sadly, very true. That is because they have anchored their personal identity to that belief, and feel personally threatened if the belief is challenged. Same as unthinking political bigots. How about THINKING what political ideas, policies, religious dogmas, etc are valid in THEMSELVES?
Please don't just barrack for stuff based on preconceived allegiances. Politics and religion are SERIOUS issues; they are not simply football teams!
Mr. D. If only it was a script. Seems to be more like random doodles scribbled on a wall by someone illiterate.
Like most of those mindless robots ..............
Classic! "Is faith a reliable path to truth?" He took ten minutes to admit it, would have done anything to avoid admitting it. How can this fool look at himself in mirror with any self-respect. This guy was nailed in less than 30 seconds and knew it. Staggering dishonesty.
well, he gets his treats from jebus and his preacher boy when he plays along. can't beat treats from jebus and preacher boy with reason and logic.
If ignorance is dishonesty, you must be a crime boss!
@@constructivecritique5191 Yes, christians are all ignorant about reality otherwise they wouldn't believe their favorite myth, and most are ignorant of what's in their bible because it is _obviously_ fictional. When christians decide to read the bible they can do it one of two ways: With *Honesty* or with *Cognitive Bias.*
Those that that read it with _Honesty_ don't remain christian.
@@Arkloyd because honest people can't learn from fiction!? Obviously!
@@constructivecritique5191 And dishonest, cowardly people can learn very bad things from fiction, such as treating women as property, racism, or defending slavery, or how to be bigots against people who love the same gender.
The caller should fly in an airplane that was designed using faith.
Good one
Dude should fly in an airplane and turn off the engine and have faith that his god will help the plane continue to fly... 😂
FAITH AIRLINES. Our pilots don't need licenses ... they have God! We never file a flight plan ... all things by faith! We never check our fuel tanks, our radios, the flaps, the ailerons, the elevator, the engines, or the landing gear!
He's been indoctrinated and Matt exposed that and tried to give him a little insight. He probably never been challenged so strongly in his life. Let's hope he and believers who watched this. examines what Matt has raised.
@@staytuned9320 Bullshit! That was not a good one.
That was a GREAT ONE.
“Is there any position that you couldn’t take on faith?”
Yea....one that’s based on facts!
Tada!
~bows~
When you have been shown you're wrong, just double down on false analogy. I picture Carl sitting back after this and figuring another strategy to prove that Matt is wrong.... Not even considering for a minute that he may be wrong
I think that's very true. I seriously doubt if this kid tried to actually learn something from this conversation.
True..he was hardly listening… he took a huge beat down on all his arguments and either said « can you repeat the question » or « I understand »
A dangerous mix of arrogance, ignorance and a total lack of intellectual honesty. Also he's a coward who refuses to allow a total arbitrary set of beliefs to be challenged by reason. These people disgust me.
The bible says that faith can move mountains.
Reality says otherwise.
Yes, however a bulldozer makes it possible...or a shitload of slaves if you will 😒
Mountains disagree. And neither has budged.
@@ericscaillet2232 So slaves = faith.
I don't think Carl's faith could even move a grain of sand!
"The wise man proportions his belief to the evidence." - Matt quoting David Hume
So he tries to equate faith in God to faith that your phone will turn on, a natural occurring thing. Then when the analogy falls flat he tries to say that God is supernatural. if God is supernatural you can't compare to the phone in the first place. This guy learned something today
It'd be good but I doubt he took anything away from that lesson
They should make a t-shirt with Matt's face on it that says "I'm Sorry that Logic Demolishes Your Position."
First I though. DAMN Matt is really giving it to this kid.
Then I thought about it and was like.... " wait. this kid called in puffing his chest trying to brag saying "ask me anything?""
lol
I thought the same thing.
This is one of the many reasons people laugh at Christians
Should say all religious people, not just Christians.
@@rickdees251 True. But his point still stands. I can't help but get a negative feeling from religious people who make baseless assertions and make no attempt to back up any of it with any evidence or good reason whatsoever.
But the religious people that I know who are honest and will openly admit that they do not have any proof for their god and they only believe on faith...That I can stomach. At least it's honest.
I've even met Christians who will freely admit that their beliefs make them feel good and that is the main reason they hold onto those beliefs. Again, at least it's honest. To pretend your faith in anything, religious or not, is anything but faith is dishonest and doesn't warrant respect. It just doesn't
@@Vyral714 Exactly right. I’ll say something which will very likely not sit well with most of my fellow atheists here, but I am willing to tolerate people believing with a clear understanding and admission that it’s just a way for them to “feel good” or “feel spiritual” and they do not claim to know some unproven truth or holy laws that others don’t. (After all, isn’t that what we always say-if religion was just personal and not about spreading unwelcome power onto others’ rights and secular cognitive faculties, we atheists wouldn’t get so mad about it?) The unfortunate truth is, as callers like Carl prove, that not many such people exist.
5:10 "I'm sorry that logic demolishes your position" -Dillahunty
"he's the only God I know of that had a son, besides Greek mythology"
uh Egyptian gods?
Norse too. Isn't Thor the son of Odin?
Most gods had progeny. Just like most people...
@@philojudaeusofalexandria9556 I have a son= I am god, a real god ..............
@Jin p NO, he is a SKEPTIC ..............
I legitimately can’t think of a religion where the head god doesn’t have at least one son.
My favorite part. “Here’s the dirty little secret”😂😂😂
What Matt says after the call is the most valuable part of this episode.
A common godbot response: "what was the question again?" lofl
" Godbot Response " 😜 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Love It & Gonna Use It ... Thanks 👍
I'm going to use it as well, better put in for copyright, or I will!
I think he’s going off of a script.
He’s not listening or entertaining any thoughts, that’s not a conversation let alone an argument.
If he actually had a good reason for what he believes he would be able to clearly entertain the Socratic questions Matt asked him and still have been able to present that good reason.
Why do you believe in God?
Because my mummy told me.
My Mother used to answer my questioning of her “belief” was always, “well I was raised that way”, and that was never a valid reason to me. I had to continually remind her that god (hers) was not into writing or publishing books!
My mummy taught me to believe in Santa Claus! Yes, that worked out well ...
@@rahb1 wait, what? Santa isn't real?
@@spaghetti9845 SHOCKING ...........
Are you my mummy?
One of the best calls ever
The problem is that people think that faith means something more than "I like this idea so I will support it" but it doesn't.
- Caller: "you can't rule out faith just like that"
-Matt: "the fuck you can!"
Why is HONESTY so difficult to come across from a belief that proclaims itself to have "The truth"?
I enjoyed this.. I enjoyed this very much
I would give real money to be looking over poor Carl's shoulder reading these comments. lol.
Oh, I don't think you have to worry about that, he won't be here.
what Don said near the end of the video rang so true for me. I 'believed' for a long time, tried to do everything right and wanted so badly for God to be real but when I asked the hard questions and searched for truth *above all*, he was not there. Casting off shackles is the perfect description of what I did and even though I still struggle with 'christian guilt' from time to time, I'm far better off now than when I was a christian.
Great video Matt & Don!! I really feel sorry for this poor guys thoughts and ideas! Being brainwashed and indoctrinated into a mindset that actually hurts people really really upsets me!! And again I feel sorry for him!
This conversation shows once again that christians need to deceive themselves and even deny simple truths to keep their ridiculous religious fantasies going. Listening to the caller is very depressing. I don't think he can help it. His faith has destroyed his thinking abilities.
Why can’t Christians answer questions?
If they did they would no longer be Christians and that scares the shit out of them.
The neural connections that this Carl has established in his brain, or better say other Christians had installed for him, by giving out specific religeous belief in his head, are stable and require a stable amount of energy. Any new information that conradicts those believes will require their brain to either reconsider or completely replace their stable neural connections. In any of those two cases the amount of necessary energy to do that job will exceed the amount they used to spend. Any living being is obliged to follow the physical laws, precisely the energy conservation law that is presented in biological forms as an instinct of self-preservation. The living beings are mortal because energy is limited and one day your body will eventually die incapable to reproduce its own cells. Everybody gets old. So, the thing I'm trying to say is that this Carl's brains know when he hears anything even remotely contradictory to his believes and block thinking to avoid energy loss. If he would make an effort to overcome that biological instinct he would be able to learn something new. This is why it's so hard for him to answer the questions and that's why it's so hard to study in general. Overcoming the instinctual programmes that were dominant for a lion's share of our evolutional life is always hard, but a clever person knows that and tries their best to learn and be open for any new information. That's for my opinion is the fundamental principle of learning. Religeon is meant to stop any study, any overcoming of animalistic nature that lies deeply in every human being, any effort to establish new neural connections that can potentially kill faith once and for all.
@@dreamboundme 1,000,000 Likes.
Because faith !
TheKosmikid and why do they always repeat every question like it’s a trap?
this guy believed he went in ready but he just didn't go in equipped and he was dismantled completely. Matt and Don must have really enjoyed this call. I saved this one as an educational call.
Carl proved over and over that he did not hear any questions, or to have a discussion. At least he was honest enough to acknowledge that he wasn’t listening because he was focussed on his agenda.
One of the best comments I've ever seen and it's worth repeating. This guy is the reason the TV evangelist has a private jet.
"how do you know the other gods aren't real?"
"They aren't real"
Truly the pinnacle of thinking
This is one of the best calls I’ve ever seen Matt take. More recently he hangs up on these idiots too fast. He absolutely wrecked this kid and I loved every second of it.
Carl's first day at big school didn't go so well.
😂
“Ask me any question” proceeds to not answer any question directly
In his defense he didn’t offer to _answer_ the questions put to him. 😂
The phone analogy just confirms Carl is confusing Faith (reliance on UNsubtantiated knowledge) with Trust (reliance on PREsubstantiated knowledge). I like to use the restaurant bathroom scenario to explain the difference: imagine you go to a restaurant with your spouse. After lunch, you have to go to the bathroom, but for some reason that only exists in this exemple you can't bring your wallet with you there. Trust would be to leave your wallet in the hands of your spouse, reasonably expecting that you will get it back as is when you get out. Faith would be to leave your wallet in the hands of a complete stranger who happens to be standing next to the bathrom door. Of course you could get it back and without anything missing from it, but you wouldn't have the knowledge to raisonably expect or even to calculate the odds of that outcome.
I wonder who cracks up in the background when Matt says “ the fuck you cant” ? 🤣
The fact this kid replies with "What? Can you repeat the question? I am focused on what i want to say" just shows he has no desire to discuss the issue but just wants to attempt "gotcha questions".
So pathetic.
One of the better call segments. Very clear and to the point.
Damn, that caller got smoked like a fish.
Caller: what about your phone?
Also caller: you can’t compare your phone!
Somehow I imagine Carl as telling all his friends, "Tune in I am going to Destroy Matt and Don, damn athiests!". I also imagine his friends calling him back and laughing at him!
like faith.. you assume he has any friends
Poor Carl. He’s never ever thought about why he believes in anything.
Lol. Matt has heard the 'phone turning on' argument before..😛
“If my prayer wasn’t answered, should I be discouraged?” means “Do I really have to follow the evidence where it takes me, or can I make up adhoc excuses to keep believing what I already believe in a close minded uncaring manner?”
I've heard this vid so many times; idk why but it never gets old
The problem with this caller is he didn't phone up to engage in a conversation he wanted to preach.
Ray Comfort did the same thing when he was on the show, he failed to understand that the hosts were asking questions to try and establish a baseline for epistemology because if we can't agree on a standard for how we determine truth then there is no point in continuing the discussion.
Σ' ευχαριστούμε θερμά για τους υπότιτλους, το κοινοποίησα ήδη παντού.. Μακάρι να προστεθούν σε όλα τα τόσο αξιόλογα βίντεο του Matt Dillahunty και να αρχίσει ο κόσμος να σκέφτεται λογικά !!! Και πάλι συγχαρητήρια !!!
good point
I love Don's laugh
Oh my God, you can hear the gears grind to a screeching halt as his cognitive dissonance struggles to answer Matt's faith question. This is hilarious. Logic and faith don't mix very well.
@Edward Snowden cause it's a proper noun
@@asagoldsmith3328 No it's not. The name of the god in the christian bible is Yahweh.
@@deanmartin1111 In a monotheistic religion the word can be capitalized as it refers to what they believe to be the one and only God, which is referring to an individual. Monotheistic religions have many gods and as such it is a common noun.
@@asagoldsmith3328 Do you know of any other religion besides christianity that capitalizes 'god'? It would be like naming your dog 'Dog.' It's ridiculous.
@@deanmartin1111 ya, Judaism and Islam do so aswell, even some nations are named after names of their god such as Iraq or Iran.
“Yeah” - Carl
Faith is a good reason to be wrong :))))
Faith is for fools.
I wish I could demonstrate that to my wife. It is so sad to watch those you love be so indoctrinated into these type of beliefs that you can't reach them. And she's Mormon. Gag
@@RB-zh1eq I feel you my good man. My girlfriend is also christian. We've been together a few years now and her being of faith has actually strengthened my resolve against it tenfold. I've done more study, watched more debates and talks and it's only clarified how bs it all is. Nothing is ever easy is it
Faith is wishing for good stuff,simple. 😒
@@ericscaillet2232
Matthew 20:28 New International Version (NIV)
28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
@@raysalmon6566 Matt Dillahunty 3:16 Atheist Experience Version (AEV)
"I want to know as many true things and as few false things as possible"
...but, but... my FAITH!!!
At this point in the history of both The Atheist Experience and Matt Dillahunty's participation in it, I have to believe that those who call, wanting to challenge Matt or his peers are either 1) unaware of Matt's history and expertise in counter-apologetics or 2) so overloaded with the Dunning-Kruger effect that they don't care. Doesn't change the results!
what always gets me is when matt asks how they determined their god is real and all the others are not. Oh! Because of faith?
Ding,Ding,Ding,Ding,Ding!!!! Wrong answer!
The summary of this call was excellent.
Your patience is remarkable.
This is a classic, It's laid out for this poor guy with crystal clear logical, and his response is, "you can't just rule out faith like that."
And Matt says, "the fuck you can't."
Yes
We
Can
Just like that. 😎
Flipping a coin = unreliable
Having faith = unreliable
Don's best line was "faith is a good way to be wrong"
A quick search of demigods suggests that Norse, Celtic, Hindu and Chinese mythology, so it's FAR older than Christianity. And yet the bigger problem is admitting that it's NOT that unique of a claim, but neither is death and resurrection of a "son of a deity"
Even fiction has it several times: Kratos in God of War, Wonder Woman from DC Comics (possibly some other demigods I've forgotten, not as well versed as I'd like to be on that), Maui in Moana (based on the Hawaiian demigod in mythology)
Like shooting fish in a barrel
No. It's like applying logic to a fallacious argument.
Shooting fish in a barrel, yep, and somewhat dangerous 😒
This guy got overwhelmed quick
“Faith is a good way to be wrong.” I really do miss Don.
Carl should consider taking up dodge ball, he'll dodge and weave all day, and then when he is hit will deny it ever happened.
When it is forbidden to even consider your claim might be wrong or unwarranted, learning is impossible.
Think this is the same Carl from OK that just called in on The Line either Monday (Skeptalk) or Tuesday (Dave Wornack’s Dying Out Loud). Still hasn’t learned how to think … maybe even worse, if it was the same guy. *11/21/23
"you're comparing natural things to supernatural things" Uh, dude, you're the one who brought up the comparison in the first place before it got demolished.
He was scrambling for any win at that point.
Carl realizes the foundation of his belief can be completely destroyed by comparing it to a coin flip. You would think hes done, game over. But wait, Carl has just set a trap and Matt walked right into it. Here is just a snippet of those inspiring words that all you atheists can chew on. Carl- "Listen to me though, if you turn on your phone and it turns on, why would you think your phone would turn on?" Boooyyaaa!!!...Checkmate, mic drop, the crowd goes wild and Carl is going to Disney land. Where he will probably get lost, confused, and angry when he finds out Goofy is just a man in a dog costume.
It’s amazing how religious folks struggle to just say “yes” sometimes.
The supernatural
exists in the imagination.
Bob S Well, if supernatural was confirmed and proven, it would, by definition, just be natural...
@@AngryBoozer Like there would be no reason for the death and ressurection of Jesus story if it wasn't assumed up front that it was a supernatural story. It's strange how it is important that the story actually happened yet the imaginary supernatural aspect of it is what is important. Visions are visions.
Imagination is only a step away to reality😒
@@ericscaillet2232 Yet we call something imaginary when it doesn't conform with reality.
Basing your belief on faith is like a math problem of which the teacher doesn't know the answer and asks the students to just write the answer without the justification
First you have to go to church on sunday, then prayer night on tuesday, then choir practice on friday...it takes a lot to keep the delusion going....
Only 3 nights? That seems skimpy.
I grew up with Sunday morning and Sunday night, then Wednesday night all for services. Tuesday night was youth group. Thursday night was home group bible studies.
Of course going to a christian school, add bible class just like math or history. Also chapel every day after 2nd period. Of course there were prayers before every Friday night football game (like throughout the day)
The only religion free days were Monday and Saturday... generally.
Monday was for school work. Saturday would be doing something social with kids you knew from church.
@@barkYdarkATFB That's fucking tragic. Sounds like a form of child abuse to me.
@@scubasteve7666 it was what it was. I never really knew any other way, neither did my friends.
I don’t really see it as abuse, I was taken care of. My parents were just as misdirected as I was. They thought they were keeping me out of trouble, and to an extent they did.
@@barkYdarkATFB It's mental abuse. You were lucky to make it out because you're actually capable of using your own thoughts to come to conclusions on your own. Most kids are so brainwashed that they end up living the rest of their life in fear because they were told not to question anything about god and that non believers will be tortured in hell for eternity, they cling to their illogical beliefs for the hope of some magical afterlife, while ignoring and dismissing actual facts about reality. It's sad.
@@scubasteve7666 it was not mental abuse.
Matt missed it because the guy was mumbling, but the real culprit of why this call degraded so quickly is revealed- after the callers asks Matt to repeat his question, he says "Sorry, i was focusing on what i was going to say."
It's very clear that this caller thought he was going to be able to call in and preach, as was NOT expecting to be met with real challenges.
@LunatheMoonDragon Nailed it...but that is really the crux of most callers. They are not really calling to have an intelligent conversation, because that would require abandoning years of indoctrination. Few people want to acknowledge that Mom and Dad have been lying to them for their entire lives.
Calls in without his own point, but to "answer any questions they have for him". Proceeds to answer none of the questions they ask. And, when "that's not answering my question" is _repeatedly_ pointed out... has to ask Matt to repeat the question.
Answers yes/no questions with complicated non-reaponses. And "answer with a sentence" questions with ".... ...... ... yes".
Plus "non-denominational" Christian... is a denomination. It's up in the Baptist/Pentecostal zone.
All 3 are all describing “trust” because the church told them that’s what it means.
The biggest problem with Carl is, he doesn't listen. If he did, he wouldn't keep saying the same thing over and over when he had been shown logically he was wrong.
that's one of my favourite one
Sciences or faith? Choose your path and stick to it with commitment and focus. We'll see which side will help you when you get ill.
Dude's big miss at the end: His comparison is assuming both things are starting at the same starting line. Not only are they not starting at the same line, one isn't even in the race in the first place.
we can demonstrate the phone exists and turns on. If your phone doesn't turn on, thats within the expected probability.There has been no demonstration that God exists or answers prayers. Trying to compare the phone not turning on and prayers not being answered doesn't work because we know phones turn on because we've demonstrated it but we have never demonstrated Gods exist or answer prayers.
Odin had a son, Zeus had children, so he doesn't know a lot.
I feel it's acceptable to label this as ASMR, since it puts me to sleep so fast...
This shit is soooooo entertaining!! Better than a comedy show.
Matt, I have this persistent feeling that the problem with your theist callers is NOT their beliefs, but rather plain stupidity and inability to understand a simple question. Have noticed that every time you make a question, the caller simply disregards what you're saying and keeps ranting on?
Well, they can't anser the question truthfully because if they did they'd most likely be admitting they are wrong. I think it's more dishonesty but sure, ignorance, delusion and stupidity play a part as well.
" the fool has said in his heart there is a god " said by the non existence god of our holy book which i know to be true because it said so. Praise the non existence lord, ameen.