A comparison between the factory exhaust, Dean Speed Rampage, Indian Stage 1 and a modified factory exhaust for the 2022 Indian Chief 111ci and 116ci bobbers.
Thanks! I ended up porting out the baffles with a stepper drill which gave me a sound somewhere in between the two options. Now if only this cold weather would break I could go ride it!
@@paden501 Hell yeah. You should do a quick video comparing those three, so we can all enjoy the glorious sounds of the Chief's exhaust. Also, I hear you on the cold weather. I prefer it over the summer, but at least during the summer I can go outside without freezing my nuts off lol.
@@ungabunga115 yep once we get some riding weather I'll be sure to make a little video. My brother in law also picked up a set of Dean's speeds for his 116 chief so we will get a video of those also.
I am genuinely impressed and very happy with how after market pipes sound on the new chief, I was at first reserved about how they would sound because with all the electrical tech stuffed into it I would have thought it would have sounded just ok as well as efficient, all the pipes set ups are great with the deep thump it roars out but I’m curious? Can you adjust the timings on the thumps from the fire exhaust sequence so you can hear more of a burble sound instead of a thump thump thump and more of a thumpity thump, do you know what I mean when I ask this question? It’s ok if not.
Thinking about getting one out here in AZ. Have a 2013 victory highball and they are very similar, so maybe have to get the Chieftain instead for a different flavor. But Chief sounds good like the slip ok stage 2 cams
Thanks. That bike belongs to my father in law (the guy seen revving the green Chief). He purchased it new back when he was a teenager and he's kept it in original condition since then.
Hi just wondering if you could please confirm for me if the 2022 INDIAN CHALLENGER DARK HORSE comes with front highway bars on it as stock from thefactory
I have the Rampage on my 22 Super Chief Limited and the popping on decel is really bad. Also starting to have some vibrating that I think is related. Mine was hard to install. Tried to remove it and after just a few months it's stuck on there pretty good.
I feel like that's the major difference in sound between the Indian Thunderstroke engine and the HD Milwaukee 8. The HD has more of the traditional "potato-potato" cadence, where the Indian has more of an even "Thump-thump-thump" (at least until you add cams) But the Indians seem to bring more bass to the party.
They had a pretty nice sound. Just very loud. Of the options that we tried they were the deepest sounding and loudest (the no pipe option was also very loud, but lacked the bass tone)
I chopped the back off of the muffler with a chop saw (using a 12" metal cutting wheel) and then pulled the fiberglass stuffing and the baffle plate out from the back. That leaves you with an empty pipe.
@@paden501 thanks, just did the same to mine yesterday. Cut off the ends then completely gutted out the stock slip on, shortened it by 4 inches, then welded the ends back on. Sounds awesome.
Is the gutted factory exhaust obnoxiously loud? Camera doesn’t tell the whole story with exhaust. I’m looking for a deep tones and some loudness over stock but not screaming loud. Thank you for your effort in making the video. You’re awesome sir!
If you're just talking changing slip-ons, most people could do the work themselves. It required a metric socket set, a ratchet and an extension. There was a total of 2 bolts and 2 clamps to loosen to get the factory cans off.
Indian put a Japanese style exhaust on an American beast! I never understood the mindset of Indian/Polaris knowing that Harley's key selling feature is the deeeeep exhaust and rumble of a roadking or such! At least I'm happy to know there is an option to beef up the Chief! Thanks for the video. Love the Dean! Sounds great! Too bad Indian doesn't just go with better exhaust to start with. They might sell more bikes, LOL. Keep those slip-ons! Just too cheesy sounding without them! You go from awesome to WTF is wrong with that bike. ;)
In the video, the stage 1 pipes have the baffles removed. The baffles in the stage 1 pipes really make them sound pretty stuffy IMO. Much more-so than the Dean speed baffles. With the baffles out of both, the Dean speeds sound a little "lower" and the Indian Stage 1s slightly "louder". The difference is very minor though, and it's very difficult to compare considering that my red bike with the Dean speeds is a basically stock 111 in the video and the green bike is a 116 with the stage 2 cams, injectors and throttle body, as well as the stage 1 forward intake (that bike is a beast). After the video, I added the Stage 1 intake (high flow) to the red bike, and it actually added a bit more volume to the Dean Speed exhaust also. (FWIW, the Stage 1 intake and ECU tune really helped the 111 in a lot of ways, especially in reducing the sometimes lazy throttle response of the stock bike, and I highly recommend it)
@@paden501 That's good to know, sorry missed the text about the baffles being removed. I do love the idle sound of the dean-speed baffles out, but it seems a tad too loud for my taste on acceleration in my opinion. I have the Stage 1 Indians on order, will have to see how it is in person and decide :) Was the Stage1 baffle drilled out? Or is there a way to remove it easily
@@korewest The baffle on the Indian stage 1 can be removed by taking the tips off the back, and then either drilling or unscrewing the 3 security screws that hold the baffle into the back of the pipe. They're not easy to take out (hence security screws) so you may have to drill them. Regarding the Dean Speeds. I agree that without the baffle they're a little loud. What I ended up doing was drilling a 5/8" hole thru the front of the baffle and then reinstalling them in the Dean Speed pipes (they're just held on by 8mm cap screw). That sort of hit the best "middle ground" between baffle in and out IMO. Unfortunately, I haven't done another video comparing them yet.
@@paden501 I have the stage 1 pipes on mine and recently remove the DB killer from them and it made such a difference. You're right about not being easy to remove... I had to use a dremel and turn the security screws into flat heads in order to remove them.
The color is called "Ruby Red Metallic". It's a glossy deep red color with a lot of Metallic fleck in it. The color can really show up differently in photos depending on the lighting
In my opinion , they don't. I ordered a chief bobber dark horse and was super excited for it till I rode a Harley Softail. The sound, the feel, and the nostalgia isn't there to be found on an Indian bike yet. Yes they offer better technology, and may be handling but the rugged core biking experience is what you buy a Harley for. Ps every Indian bike owner including myself wanted my bike to sound like a Harley lol, they why not just get one..so I did haha
...... There is no "key" on an Indian Chief. It has a remote fob. Options for turning it off are to either use the kill switch or let it run out of fuel. Triumph makes a fine motorcycle also.
Either Dean speed no baffle, or the gutted factory exhaust. Man, those sound nice. I think I just love Indian Chiefs
Thanks! I ended up porting out the baffles with a stepper drill which gave me a sound somewhere in between the two options. Now if only this cold weather would break I could go ride it!
@@paden501 Hell yeah. You should do a quick video comparing those three, so we can all enjoy the glorious sounds of the Chief's exhaust. Also, I hear you on the cold weather. I prefer it over the summer, but at least during the summer I can go outside without freezing my nuts off lol.
@@ungabunga115 yep once we get some riding weather I'll be sure to make a little video. My brother in law also picked up a set of Dean's speeds for his 116 chief so we will get a video of those also.
Dean speed no baffle. Deep tones. Nice bike. The kill switch comment was hilarious.
Thanks!
Thank you for doing this video. A+
Thanks Rich.
I am genuinely impressed and very happy with how after market pipes sound on the new chief, I was at first reserved about how they would sound because with all the electrical tech stuffed into it I would have thought it would have sounded just ok as well as efficient, all the pipes set ups are great with the deep thump it roars out but I’m curious? Can you adjust the timings on the thumps from the fire exhaust sequence so you can hear more of a burble sound instead of a thump thump thump and more of a thumpity thump, do you know what I mean when I ask this question? It’s ok if not.
Great video 👌🏼
Absolutely Stunning Bike and Sound as well!!!
Daaaamn that Dean Speed
Sounds better, but I love the black tips. Nice ride!
Thinking about getting one out here in AZ.
Have a 2013 victory highball and they are very similar, so maybe have to get the Chieftain instead for a different flavor.
But Chief sounds good like the slip ok stage 2 cams
Algún día tendré esa moto! Y la tendré !
Definitely Dean Speeds without the baffles.
Beautiful XS750 in the background!
Thanks. That bike belongs to my father in law (the guy seen revving the green Chief). He purchased it new back when he was a teenager and he's kept it in original condition since then.
@@paden501 That’s fantastic! My first bike was a ‘79 XS750 Special!
Hi just wondering if you could please confirm for me if the 2022 INDIAN CHALLENGER DARK HORSE comes with front highway bars on it as stock from thefactory
I have the Stage 1 mufflers on mine... would love to know how you modified yours.
I have the Rampage on my 22 Super Chief Limited and the popping on decel is really bad. Also starting to have some vibrating that I think is related. Mine was hard to install. Tried to remove it and after just a few months it's stuck on there pretty good.
That's because the Cat is still on the mid pipe. If you go for a full exhaust the popping on decel will go away.
I still like the Peace Pipe.
Hey, great video! Where’d you get that leather fork bag from?
It came from Amazon, but I don't remember what the product name is.
appreciate paperwork
Do you lose power taking off the factory slip ons?
I want a bobbed out honda spree!
I bet it would sound killer if you lowered the idle
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At minute 2.45 what drums do you have on the motorcycle? Sensational sound
I feel like that's the major difference in sound between the Indian Thunderstroke engine and the HD Milwaukee 8. The HD has more of the traditional "potato-potato" cadence, where the Indian has more of an even "Thump-thump-thump" (at least until you add cams) But the Indians seem to bring more bass to the party.
Actually, the gutted factories sound pretty nice.
They had a pretty nice sound. Just very loud. Of the options that we tried they were the deepest sounding and loudest (the no pipe option was also very loud, but lacked the bass tone)
It’s a sign I have to buy a chief because I own two xs750’s also lol
What’s the process to gut out the stock slip ons? Been thinking about doing the same but welding the ends back on to them.
I chopped the back off of the muffler with a chop saw (using a 12" metal cutting wheel) and then pulled the fiberglass stuffing and the baffle plate out from the back. That leaves you with an empty pipe.
@@paden501 thanks, just did the same to mine yesterday. Cut off the ends then completely gutted out the stock slip on, shortened it by 4 inches, then welded the ends back on. Sounds awesome.
@@bigchiefer7135 NICE!! Of all the options I thought that the gutted pipe had the "deepest" sound, but it was pretty loud for my taste
What intake did you have when filming? Any retune/calibration after installing the Dean Speed exhaust?
Just read the thing; forward intake. My bad.
Dean Speeds without baffles sounds great.... low rumble is best sound ....haha yeah 😆 🤣
Agreed.
Is the gutted factory exhaust obnoxiously loud? Camera doesn’t tell the whole story with exhaust. I’m looking for a deep tones and some loudness over stock but not screaming loud. Thank you for your effort in making the video. You’re awesome sir!
The gutted pipes were quite loud
Trying to figure out if I should change mine at home or take it to someone to do, any opinion on that?
If you're just talking changing slip-ons, most people could do the work themselves. It required a metric socket set, a ratchet and an extension. There was a total of 2 bolts and 2 clamps to loosen to get the factory cans off.
Indian put a Japanese style exhaust on an American beast! I never understood the mindset of Indian/Polaris knowing that Harley's key selling feature is the deeeeep exhaust and rumble of a roadking or such! At least I'm happy to know there is an option to beef up the Chief! Thanks for the video. Love the Dean! Sounds great! Too bad Indian doesn't just go with better exhaust to start with. They might sell more bikes, LOL. Keep those slip-ons! Just too cheesy sounding without them! You go from awesome to WTF is wrong with that bike. ;)
Was the Indian Stage 1 sound with the baffles in? How is it compared to dean-speed?
In the video, the stage 1 pipes have the baffles removed. The baffles in the stage 1 pipes really make them sound pretty stuffy IMO. Much more-so than the Dean speed baffles.
With the baffles out of both, the Dean speeds sound a little "lower" and the Indian Stage 1s slightly "louder". The difference is very minor though, and it's very difficult to compare considering that my red bike with the Dean speeds is a basically stock 111 in the video and the green bike is a 116 with the stage 2 cams, injectors and throttle body, as well as the stage 1 forward intake (that bike is a beast).
After the video, I added the Stage 1 intake (high flow) to the red bike, and it actually added a bit more volume to the Dean Speed exhaust also. (FWIW, the Stage 1 intake and ECU tune really helped the 111 in a lot of ways, especially in reducing the sometimes lazy throttle response of the stock bike, and I highly recommend it)
@@paden501 That's good to know, sorry missed the text about the baffles being removed. I do love the idle sound of the dean-speed baffles out, but it seems a tad too loud for my taste on acceleration in my opinion. I have the Stage 1 Indians on order, will have to see how it is in person and decide :)
Was the Stage1 baffle drilled out? Or is there a way to remove it easily
@@korewest The baffle on the Indian stage 1 can be removed by taking the tips off the back, and then either drilling or unscrewing the 3 security screws that hold the baffle into the back of the pipe. They're not easy to take out (hence security screws) so you may have to drill them.
Regarding the Dean Speeds. I agree that without the baffle they're a little loud. What I ended up doing was drilling a 5/8" hole thru the front of the baffle and then reinstalling them in the Dean Speed pipes (they're just held on by 8mm cap screw). That sort of hit the best "middle ground" between baffle in and out IMO. Unfortunately, I haven't done another video comparing them yet.
@@paden501 Awesome thanks for your very detailed replies
@@paden501 I have the stage 1 pipes on mine and recently remove the DB killer from them and it made such a difference. You're right about not being easy to remove... I had to use a dremel and turn the security screws into flat heads in order to remove them.
Is the bike in the garage Red or Orange?
The color is called "Ruby Red Metallic". It's a glossy deep red color with a lot of Metallic fleck in it. The color can really show up differently in photos depending on the lighting
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Freedom combat 2 into 1. The best!
So does this sound better than a Harley?
In my opinion , they don't. I ordered a chief bobber dark horse and was super excited for it till I rode a Harley Softail. The sound, the feel, and the nostalgia isn't there to be found on an Indian bike yet. Yes they offer better technology, and may be handling but the rugged core biking experience is what you buy a Harley for. Ps every Indian bike owner including myself wanted my bike to sound like a Harley lol, they why not just get one..so I did haha
Hate when the bike isn't rev'd.
I'm confused. we revved it with the different options. I also have a follow-up video of the stage 1 and dean speeds going down the road
Who ever has the red chief. You just tap the start button. You don't hold it to start
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Nice polaris bike
Like a tractor
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you should never turn off a bike by the kill switch, use the key........the triumph bobber is still the bike to have.
...... There is no "key" on an Indian Chief. It has a remote fob. Options for turning it off are to either use the kill switch or let it run out of fuel. Triumph makes a fine motorcycle also.
Just traded my Bonnie bobber for a chief darkhorse bobber .
haha probably dont even have a bike
@@seanwise781 key in this on you tube..(nice triumph bobber posted in october 2021).....that`s me and my bike
@@peterpeter-xt8mv i dont watch vids about junk🤷♂️