Of those two I would take the Frontier with King Cab and 6' bed. However, there is Tacoma in the same configuration, and with a standard transmission. And then, when you look at prices and fuel efficiency, one begins to wonder, "Why not a regular half ton?" (if you really need a truck).
You saying you can get a half ton for the same as the equivalent frontier? Maybe for the price of what they charge for a tacoma. I think the frontier 4×4 is about the cheapest 4wd truck there is.
For me I just want the bed. I do VERY light off road and VERY seldom, I dont haul anything or tow anything.. I honestly just want the bed space. Why dont I want a 1/2 ton... I just dont need the added SIZE and parking/maneuverability issues...and i will never need the towing/hauling capabilities.
Pros and Cons will be different for everyone. Many will base their opinion on just the look of a vehicle. Others like me, will focus on options like the NA V6 engine, the transmission and the hydraulic steering. I went with a P4X. I love the look, the pricing and the overall simplistic nature of the truck. For me, less doo-dads equals less stuff to break. I also like that the Frontiers are built here in the US. My only con about the P4X is it doesn't have telescoping steering but I knew that going in and that wasn't a deal breaker. Every vehicle will have some feature that some people won't like or is a MUST HAVE. As for bed options, I wanted the smaller bed because I have to park my vehicles in my garage. Every truck I've ever owned has been able to fit in my garage. All my neighbors have to leave their bigger trucks outdoors and that drives me insane. So vehicle size is a huge factor in my buying decision and I think all the mid-size trucks on the market would fit but some better than others.
See if you can test drive the 2023 Toyota Tacoma as well before the updated 2024 arrives. You might be able to get some discounts on the 2023 models too. My review of it: th-cam.com/video/BjDrIhE_O2c/w-d-xo.html
I bought a 2022 Canyon Elevation Premium in FEB 2023 - was looking at the 2023 Colorado but thought GM would have alot of issues with the redesign and 2.7L Turbo - so i went with the 2022 bought brand new thinking it would have less issues since it has been built the same for the last 7 or 8 yrs -Only have 14,000 miles on it - I have had it at the dealer multiple times banging and metal knocking from the rear end. found a fix on line for the leaf springs clanging fixed 70% but still had clanging - then took it in for a TSB i found for leaf springs its had the right rear drive shaft replaced and Clips replaced around the differential due to excessive play (still has excessive play) not sure i trust it to tow my 4400lb camper this summer - then front differential was leaking all over my garage floor - dealer replaced the seal but took 2 weeks - this is my first GM car in 17 years because my last Chevy was JUnK - i have been buying Toyotas since 2009 (no issues with any of the 6 i have owned 1 of these drove 5 years & had 100,000 miles on it (ZERO ISSUES) - also had 2 Hondas - little to no issues -- I would choose the Frontier - what I am disappointed in the Frontier is they do not have built in Brake Controller and no Telescoping steering wheel - Frontier will be much more reliable - IF Honda will beef up the Ridgeline and increase tow capacity - i would buy that also not sure why this has a line through some of my comment ?
I'm showing my age here..... but I remember the 80s/90s, and promises of 'V8 power with 4 cyl MPG' from turbos, and how they're now using electronics to make them more reliable compared to previous turbos from the 60s.... Sound familiar? Toyota is now promoting the Tundra V6 turbos as not being about MPG, but torque. Ignore the complexity of twin turbos, or hybrids with extra motors and batteries. My money is on the Frontier..... $8000 less than the GMC with a smooth V6, 9 Spd Mercedes designed tranny.
Just comparing screen shots of the seating position in the back (14:00 vs 15:33) and there is a considerable difference in body angles. The frontier looks like you are being folded in half. While this might be fine for teens and smaller people I would feel bad sticking adult friends/family back there. While the Canyon has rear hvac I like the side interior grab handles on the frontier. Each of these trucks have benefits over the other its just a matter of where you compromise.
@@Vdeinnar ... I personally have had very good luck with GM products through the years! I currently own a 2005 Chevrolet Express 2500 cargo van that I purchased new in 2005 and other than a few AC problems it has been perfect!
As much as a LOVE the look of the GMC, I think it has the best front end, width, flare, and overall aesthetics of all midsize trucks I think something like the headlights alone would drive me mad on a daily basis to be a complete deal breaker. And I read way too much about GM reliability compared to all other brands.
People complaining about the height of the frontier with the money that you save up because you did get a canyon, tacoma, colorado or a ranger go buy yourself a kit and make it yours 🤦♂️
Like the look of the canyon better. GM nailed it there. But the value for money proposition goes to the frontier. You just get more with Nissan for less money. Thats what I found in my truck search anyway.
They're both excellent, but the GMC is just better. Better looking, much more modern technology, vastly more premium interior... people say "but the engine" pfft, go drive them both. The Canyon is faster. Neither of these trucks are designed to rack up hundreds of thousands of miles, they're designed to be owned and played with for a few years and then traded in. You can't go wrong with either, but the internet argument that the Fronter is somehow going to last forever and the GMC is going to explode in a months time is detached from reality.
I find that most of the comments miss the mark as to why one would have the need for a pickup truck to begin with , a truck is built to do truck stuff , not drive 1000 , miles to Disneyland , or to just go to drop your kids at school , its was never made for those purposes, if you bought a truck to cruise around in then you. got the wrong vehicle, trucks should be trucks , not luxury suv's if thats what you expect in a truck , then buy an suv with all the bs that comes with them, get the right vehicle for what you need , that said , frontier hands down is the truck I'd buy to use it for what trucks were designed to do .
True, but unfortunately I can't pick & choose which demo vehicles I get from the manufacturers. Plus, it's always a struggle to get two comparable vehicles together at the same time.
On the canyon, you can rearrange the headlight button to be on main bar always. Same thing with the fog lights. 90% of the time, they are always on Auto. Don't have to mess with it.
That's true, it's always going to be there no matter what screen is displayed and most of the time you'll never have to use it because the lights will turn on themselves. But as I demonstrated in the video, it's very difficult & distracting to use if you encounter fog. The lights may not turn on in foggy conditions if it's not dark enough and the bumpy roads make it difficult to operate. My point is, it irritates me when auto manufacturers keep integrating commonly used functions into touchscreens and causing more distractions while driving. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who hates using touchscreens for common functions.
The Nissan sits so low, my neighbor has one and I have a new Colorado Trail Boss, my truck next to his looks a lot bigger! His interior looks so dated compared to mine!
The beauty of the Frontier is its simplicity. It drives and feels like a truck. I am not interested in the fancy gimmicks and I think the Frontier will hold up well. Especially the naturally aspirated engine.
With the money you save you can add if a lift to be as tall as your Colorado. The Frontier also sits on the Titan frame so it's a beefy truck underneath.
@scott8238 it is true that the Frontier rides on a chopped version of the Titan frame. However, it is worth pointing out that the Titan frame isn't exactly beefy or competitive with other half ton frames as it lacks the rail depth, number of crossmembers, and number of through-welded crossmembers that other half tons have. This was done by Nissan on purpose to shoo customers looking for more capability towards the Titan XD and it's much beefier commercial grade frame. It would be more accurate to say that the Titan is a half ton truck on a midsized frame than it would be to say that the Frontier is a midsize truck on a half ton frame.
@@dave3682 incorrect the titan frame is a true half ton frame where the XD is a 3/4 ton frame. You must be thinking of the Tundra C channel frame that is weak in comparison to all other half tons.
A little bit of camera angle but the truck is also physically bigger than the Frontier. About 3" longer, 4" longer wheelbase, about 5" taller, and about the same width.
The running lights are a nothing burger. I put my lights on auto and have a steering wheel switch for the high beams. I have only gone into the council screen once to turn on the fog lights, and i did that while i was in the driveway, parked, before i hit the roads. If the lights manipulation are a deal breaker than so be it
@MGReviewsBlog in my statement above I was trying to convey that inconvenience and safety are a non issue as I have been driving mine for 10 months. Every car or truck that I have owned I have selected the auto lights selection and never touched it again unless I accidentally hit it with my knee getting in and out of the vehicle, and if I wake up in the morning and notice there is fog in my area then I switch on the fog lamps while I'm adjusting the radio or setting the climate controll. That's it. No safety or distraction issues.
Mid size? Just look at the size of that canyon compared to the mid size beside it. Looks like a sierra sitting there. If im looking for small and better maneuverability i want smaller. That price sure isn't mid size is it.
Everything is getting bigger from trucks to SUVs to cars. Even the Frontier is bigger than the previous generation. It's what the general public demands and since they're willing to buy it, auto manufacturers are only so happy to produce them.
That's simple manipulation based on the placement and camera angle. You can lookup the actual dimensions on both. Think of the guys that long arm their fish in photos to make them look 3x bigger.
Frontier for simplicity, price and long term reliability.
I own a 2023 Frontier Pro 4x. Drove a 2023 Tacoma and it was not fun or comfortable. Love the Frontier
Thanks for your insight as an owner! I'm assuming no major issues so far apart from regular maintenance?
@@MGReviewsBlog Zero issues so far, no recalls or repairs. I added an oil catch can due to the direct Injection engine
Of those two I would take the Frontier with King Cab and 6' bed. However, there is Tacoma in the same configuration, and with a standard transmission. And then, when you look at prices and fuel efficiency, one begins to wonder, "Why not a regular half ton?" (if you really need a truck).
I agree, I'd go for the Frontier as well out of these two. There's just something about a good 'ol fashioned V6 over a turbo 4
Ehh, the fuel economy is still significant, even if it's not a huge difference, but the difference in price is a good point.
You saying you can get a half ton for the same as the equivalent frontier? Maybe for the price of what they charge for a tacoma. I think the frontier 4×4 is about the cheapest 4wd truck there is.
For me I just want the bed. I do VERY light off road and VERY seldom, I dont haul anything or tow anything.. I honestly just want the bed space. Why dont I want a 1/2 ton... I just dont need the added SIZE and parking/maneuverability issues...and i will never need the towing/hauling capabilities.
Pros and Cons will be different for everyone. Many will base their opinion on just the look of a vehicle. Others like me, will focus on options like the NA V6 engine, the transmission and the hydraulic steering. I went with a P4X. I love the look, the pricing and the overall simplistic nature of the truck. For me, less doo-dads equals less stuff to break. I also like that the Frontiers are built here in the US. My only con about the P4X is it doesn't have telescoping steering but I knew that going in and that wasn't a deal breaker. Every vehicle will have some feature that some people won't like or is a MUST HAVE. As for bed options, I wanted the smaller bed because I have to park my vehicles in my garage. Every truck I've ever owned has been able to fit in my garage. All my neighbors have to leave their bigger trucks outdoors and that drives me insane. So vehicle size is a huge factor in my buying decision and I think all the mid-size trucks on the market would fit but some better than others.
Spot on! 👏
Great review and show 😊 ! I am in the market now and I will definitely consider the Nissan Frontier for long-term ownership and reliability . 😊
See if you can test drive the 2023 Toyota Tacoma as well before the updated 2024 arrives. You might be able to get some discounts on the 2023 models too.
My review of it: th-cam.com/video/BjDrIhE_O2c/w-d-xo.html
I bought a 2022 Canyon Elevation Premium in FEB 2023 - was looking at the 2023 Colorado but thought GM would have alot of issues with the redesign and 2.7L Turbo - so i went with the 2022 bought brand new thinking it would have less issues since it has been built the same for the last 7 or 8 yrs -Only have 14,000 miles on it - I have had it at the dealer multiple times banging and metal knocking from the rear end. found a fix on line for the leaf springs clanging fixed 70% but still had clanging - then took it in for a TSB i found for leaf springs its had the right rear drive shaft replaced and Clips replaced around the differential due to excessive play (still has excessive play) not sure i trust it to tow my 4400lb camper this summer - then front differential was leaking all over my garage floor - dealer replaced the seal but took 2 weeks - this is my first GM car in 17 years because my last Chevy was JUnK - i have been buying Toyotas since 2009 (no issues with any of the 6 i have owned 1 of these drove 5 years & had 100,000 miles on it (ZERO ISSUES) - also had 2 Hondas - little to no issues -- I would choose the Frontier - what I am disappointed in the Frontier is they do not have built in Brake Controller and no Telescoping steering wheel - Frontier will be much more reliable - IF Honda will beef up the Ridgeline and increase tow capacity - i would buy that also not sure why this has a line through some of my comment ?
I'm showing my age here..... but I remember the 80s/90s, and promises of 'V8 power with 4 cyl MPG' from turbos, and how they're now using electronics to make them more reliable compared to previous turbos from the 60s.... Sound familiar? Toyota is now promoting the Tundra V6 turbos as not being about MPG, but torque. Ignore the complexity of twin turbos, or hybrids with extra motors and batteries. My money is on the Frontier..... $8000 less than the GMC with a smooth V6, 9 Spd Mercedes designed tranny.
Could not have said it better. I feel like the over complicated cars/trucks are moving towards throw away items after 5 years of use or less.
Sadly, we are firmly in the age of planned obsolescence
These aren’t twin turbos, just a single turbo.
@@M1911jln he was referring to the Tundra's twin turbo V6 hybrid engine.
@@M1911jln The TUNDRA is available with a V6 with Twin Turbos *S" as I noted. Yes, GM/Ford/Toyota now only have single turbos in their midsize trucks.
I bought the PRO4X.
Just comparing screen shots of the seating position in the back (14:00 vs 15:33) and there is a considerable difference in body angles. The frontier looks like you are being folded in half. While this might be fine for teens and smaller people I would feel bad sticking adult friends/family back there. While the Canyon has rear hvac I like the side interior grab handles on the frontier. Each of these trucks have benefits over the other its just a matter of where you compromise.
I personally would choose the GMC over the Nissan! The GMC is much better looking inside and out! And I prefer the ride quality of the GMC!
Long term reliability of the GMC is a question mark
@@Vdeinnar ... I personally have had very good luck with GM products through the years! I currently own a 2005 Chevrolet Express 2500 cargo van that I purchased new in 2005 and other than a few AC problems it has been perfect!
Ride quality sucks on the back of a tow truck.
As much as a LOVE the look of the GMC, I think it has the best front end, width, flare, and overall aesthetics of all midsize trucks I think something like the headlights alone would drive me mad on a daily basis to be a complete deal breaker. And I read way too much about GM reliability compared to all other brands.
People complaining about the height of the frontier with the money that you save up because you did get a canyon, tacoma, colorado or a ranger go buy yourself a kit and make it yours 🤦♂️
Yeah if I buy one first thing I'm doing is a 2.5" lift then tire shopping.
Like the look of the canyon better. GM nailed it there. But the value for money proposition goes to the frontier. You just get more with Nissan for less money. Thats what I found in my truck search anyway.
The Frontier for practicality and the Denali for long term style and appeal with better performance and ride.
They're both excellent, but the GMC is just better. Better looking, much more modern technology, vastly more premium interior... people say "but the engine" pfft, go drive them both. The Canyon is faster. Neither of these trucks are designed to rack up hundreds of thousands of miles, they're designed to be owned and played with for a few years and then traded in. You can't go wrong with either, but the internet argument that the Fronter is somehow going to last forever and the GMC is going to explode in a months time is detached from reality.
Thank you for an honest review
Thanks for watching!
I find that most of the comments miss the mark as to why one would have the need for a pickup truck to begin with , a truck is built to do truck stuff , not drive 1000 , miles to Disneyland , or to just go to drop your kids at school , its was never made for those purposes, if you bought a truck to cruise around in then you. got the wrong vehicle, trucks should be trucks , not luxury suv's if thats what you expect in a truck , then buy an suv with all the bs that comes with them, get the right vehicle for what you need , that said , frontier hands down is the truck I'd buy to use it for what trucks were designed to do .
Awesome frontier, cant wait till after market catches up.
I test drove the Frontier and never walked away from something so fast. The steering wheel feels like it's made of lead. Turning is wayyyyyyy to hard.
The Denali is way more expensive. A comparison against the Chevy Colorado would have been better.
True, but unfortunately I can't pick & choose which demo vehicles I get from the manufacturers. Plus, it's always a struggle to get two comparable vehicles together at the same time.
I've seen a few people in forums complaining that tye transmissions are already going out on their canyon
On the canyon, you can rearrange the headlight button to be on main bar always. Same thing with the fog lights. 90% of the time, they are always on Auto. Don't have to mess with it.
That's true, it's always going to be there no matter what screen is displayed and most of the time you'll never have to use it because the lights will turn on themselves. But as I demonstrated in the video, it's very difficult & distracting to use if you encounter fog. The lights may not turn on in foggy conditions if it's not dark enough and the bumpy roads make it difficult to operate. My point is, it irritates me when auto manufacturers keep integrating commonly used functions into touchscreens and causing more distractions while driving. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who hates using touchscreens for common functions.
Nissan pro 4 x would be my choice
The Nissan sits so low, my neighbor has one and I have a new Colorado Trail Boss, my truck next to his looks a lot bigger! His interior looks so dated compared to mine!
The beauty of the Frontier is its simplicity. It drives and feels like a truck. I am not interested in the fancy gimmicks and I think the Frontier will hold up well. Especially the naturally aspirated engine.
@@Blue-moon12your 100% right
With the money you save you can add if a lift to be as tall as your Colorado. The Frontier also sits on the Titan frame so it's a beefy truck underneath.
@scott8238 it is true that the Frontier rides on a chopped version of the Titan frame. However, it is worth pointing out that the Titan frame isn't exactly beefy or competitive with other half ton frames as it lacks the rail depth, number of crossmembers, and number of through-welded crossmembers that other half tons have. This was done by Nissan on purpose to shoo customers looking for more capability towards the Titan XD and it's much beefier commercial grade frame.
It would be more accurate to say that the Titan is a half ton truck on a midsized frame than it would be to say that the Frontier is a midsize truck on a half ton frame.
@@dave3682 incorrect the titan frame is a true half ton frame where the XD is a 3/4 ton frame. You must be thinking of the Tundra C channel frame that is weak in comparison to all other half tons.
The canyon looks massive compared to the frontier, is that just camera angle?
A little bit of camera angle but the truck is also physically bigger than the Frontier. About 3" longer, 4" longer wheelbase, about 5" taller, and about the same width.
The running lights are a nothing burger. I put my lights on auto and have a steering wheel switch for the high beams. I have only gone into the council screen once to turn on the fog lights, and i did that while i was in the driveway, parked, before i hit the roads. If the lights manipulation are a deal breaker than so be it
I'm not saying it's a deal breaker. I'm saying it's very irritating and can lead to more distracted driving which is what we don't need more of.
@MGReviewsBlog in my statement above I was trying to convey that inconvenience and safety are a non issue as I have been driving mine for 10 months. Every car or truck that I have owned I have selected the auto lights selection and never touched it again unless I accidentally hit it with my knee getting in and out of the vehicle, and if I wake up in the morning and notice there is fog in my area then I switch on the fog lamps while I'm adjusting the radio or setting the climate controll. That's it. No safety or distraction issues.
I want to be able to turn my lights on easily. Come on its the damn light
That's it, then... I am installing a clapper mechanism immediately. Lol
Simple. No 4 bangers for me.
The Frontier. KISS.
No cooled/ventilated seats in the Frontier.
When I looked in 2023 the Denali was $15000 more than the Frontier !
@technologicallychallengedt8549To be fair the Canyon is more of a luxury truck. The Colorado would be the Frontier’s direct competitor in this case.
Mid size? Just look at the size of that canyon compared to the mid size beside it. Looks like a sierra sitting there. If im looking for small and better maneuverability i want smaller. That price sure isn't mid size is it.
Everything is getting bigger from trucks to SUVs to cars. Even the Frontier is bigger than the previous generation. It's what the general public demands and since they're willing to buy it, auto manufacturers are only so happy to produce them.
That's simple manipulation based on the placement and camera angle. You can lookup the actual dimensions on both. Think of the guys that long arm their fish in photos to make them look 3x bigger.
Huh, off roader vs a over glorified luxury truck
I can't pick & choose the trim levels that I get from the manufacturers. I have to make due with what I get.