I hope people realize the opportunity here. Having come from the Roland G-707 G 700 days up to the GK3 / GR-55, AXON 100/Triple Play etc this is a major giant leap in accessibility (financial) and convenience on top of tracking improvements and all without hexaphonic pickups!!! I'm more than glad to have purchased MG to encourage development and reward such dedication to making this possible. I thank you and congratulate you, developers, for this achievement! Very cool times in guitar midi!!! Buy it now!
I purchased it Sunday gone.More than happy to play my part. Thanks to videos and comments like this.Small developers do need support.Haven't got to really run MG3 being a PC guy but MG2 is good for now till PC beta comes out
@@goldenknighthawk Yup I bought MG2 as well and it is definitely good enough compared to most, if not all, of the hexaphonic pickup tech out there. Got it on ipad and mac as well as PC. So good! :)
I'm glad I chanced upon this. I had a "Roland-ready Strat" and the Roland guitar synth of the time around 20 yrs ago. Beyond the sounds of the Roland box itself its tracking meant no real use of virtual instruments was anywhere in the vicinity of doable. I didn't know audio-to-MIDI had developed so all you need is software and an electric guitar. (I'll never be any keyboardist.)
Audio to MIDI has indeed come a LONG way from the days when Roland was pretty much the only game in town. I also have a GR ready strat and its actually still usable with the MIDI Guitar 3 HEX software. Its an extra $150 above the $150 for the base license but if you are playing multiple strings (i.e. chords, troads, double stops, etc...) it is a noticeable difference.
Have a Midi guitar Casio MG-510.. The damping is very important. Sometimes I use to put tape over the strings near the bridge. Unfortunately the electronics on that guitar has an issue. Can’t get any sound out of the midi part. It’s a playable guitar though so I’m again on to buy Jam Origin. You’ve really made it sound good.
Thank you! Yeah, you can start by trying it in demo/trial mode. It is free and you don’t need to sign up for anything. Just head on over to the DOWNLOADS section of the beta page and get one: www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Sorry for posting on a 3 month old video (as of this writing), but I expect this video to be a valuable resource for anyone getting started or trying out MG3 for a long time. At least until if/when you make an updated version at some point if you feel it's warranted and are so inclined. With that verbose qualifier out of the way I had an input gain question, since I have a similar audio interface. I'm using a Focusrite 2i2. The latest thinking with input gain as it relates to popular amp sim software is to set the interface gain as low as it goes for more realistic amp sims. Or to bump up the gain only modestly and use the amp sims input gain to bring it back down (with this latter approach supposedly resulting in a better S2N ratio). This topic will likely continue to be debated, but since we're NOT talking about an amp sim here, but rather conversion of polyphonic audio to midi, where a good signal to noise ratio is desired, what are you finding works well with your Scarlett 2i4? Obviously this isn't going to be a one-size-fits-all answer, since different pickup have different output levels, different players will have a varying ranges of dynamics in their playing depending on how they play (agressive/light picking, tapping, fingerstyle, hybrid-picking and on and on). Nevertheless, what's working well for you in your setup in terms of the gain knob on your Focusrite? Are you keeping at its lowest or boosting it a bit? Sorry for using so many words to ask such a basic question. Bad habit of mine.
Ok, so i’ll do the completely opposite thing, and keep this as short as I can. I keep input gain as low as I can possibly have it in MG3. I feel it is the best thing for dynamics. MGHex on the other hand is much harder to dial in and I can’t offer any likewise simple settings suggestions for that.
I appreciate you doing "the opposite thing". Agree with the dynamics aspect. Not planning on testing having a compressor between my guitar and MG3 for the same reason, even though I might use a compressor for other styles of playing. Thanks for the input, no pun intended.
This video should help users have a positive experience trying MG3, and avoid the mistakes that can make using MIDI more difficult than it needs to be. Thanks for pointing out the details.
Tack Mikael. Make me happy to hear. There have been a few requests for something like this, but I never know if I am providing something worthwhile, or just rambling sometimes. 😄👍
@mhenkka Thanks! The next part (since the plugins settings will be adressed) will venture into the difference between MPE and legacy MIDI territory, so I must try my hardest to find a way to explain this without just resorting to technical jargon - and this is something of a challange. But I’ll do my best, and hopefully it will be helpful to some people out there. MG3 is indeed a giant leap forward. 😀👍
I don't know Pasha. Perhaps I need to start bugging you guys with this "like, subscribe and Smash the notification bell" crap (whatever that means 🤷🏼♂️) But the important thing is you found it, and seem to like it! 😀 👍 Much appreciated! 🙏
Can't wait for this to fully release. Just discovered the world of MIDI guitar and realllllly want it to be better than it is. Tried a few Jamstiks and apparently they don't know how to manufacture a guitar, returned them all, then picked up a Fishman Tripleplay and I'm finding the software end of that disappointing (at least, as long as I can't find a way to compress the velocity range, which so far I haven't).
Yes, the MIDI guitar dynamics. I am not happy with that part either. But hopefully, those days are gone with MG3. I can use my favorite guitar an retain the full dynamic span for almost any virtual instrument or synth. Now it is just up to me to communicate this newfound knowledge to the rest of the world. 😬 I am hoping for a "word of mouth" movement to help spread the message. 🤗
@@sepic5407 Yeah, the one thing I liked on the Jamstik was I could just set the min velocity to like 50+. This really helped it pick up hammer on's and pull off's, and it just compressed the dynamic range between 50-127. On the Fishman, so far it just seems to have velocity gains, so I can just boost the input so it sees light playing as 50+, but then most of my playing is just blasting at the top end, everything coming in 127, almost nothing in between.
Really good walk-through and explanation of setup and possible pitfalls. Good job, as always. I look forward to getting time to dig into it as the summer's construction projects get finished. Right now I'm too exhausted to do anything in the studio. 😉 Take care. 😊
Thank you. All in good time! I remodeled my studio the other day. Mostly a new Studio desk so that I can get my Kawai VPC 1 out of the way. But another thing: I just watched a four-part series on Norwegian jazz. About "fire store" (Andersen, Christensen, Garbarek och Rypdal) , and also Karin Krog and onward. This was REALLY good. I guess you have seen it already, but it just came out on Swedish Television, so I binged it in a day: www.nrk.no/presse/programomtaler/ny-nrk-serie-om-det-norske-jazzeventyret-1.16766604
@@lofileif That's really cool. I haven't seen it. Maybe I'll have to give it a look. Very good jazz musicians. Karin Krogh too, even though I have a childhood memory of her singing the most manicly upbeat and shrill and terrible version of the jazz standard "When you smile" in a show on NRK. It was horrid. I guess I must have been about eight years old at the time, but that experience stuck with me so bad that it's just during the last ten years I have been able to listen to her without having it destroyed by at the same time hearing that one in my head. ;-) Today I wonder if she might have been on speed at that time, or something. Congratulations on your remodeling and new studio desk. So now you have the Kawai in a keyboard drawer/retractable shelf, or something like that? 🙂
@@hjvarfjell Well, this series was well made and guided me through a richer Norwegian Jazz scene than I would have dared hope for. Karin and her connection to John Surman, Nils-Petter Molvaer, Eivind Aarset, and the George Russell story. Most interesting. Never mind your previous "bad experience" ( you can skip the first chapter if you must, but I found it all very educational). And yes I have the keyboard on a desk that neatly tucks away, so I can start using my other controllers too finally. I have a Seaboard, and a Sensel Morph and a couple of other controllers that I haven't been able to find room for before.
@@lofileif Oh, I think I'll manage listening to Karin these days. She's a very good singer and she's been working with several of other great jazz musicians. 😊 Did the series also cover Radka Toneff? She's one of my favorites, and we lost her way too early. Depression is a bitch. Oh, well. I was aware that you had the Seaboard. I've seen it in the background in a few of your videos. Too bad the Morph is discontinued. It looked interesting. Must be good to be able to have them out and use them for more extended periods of time, without having to clear them away every time.
@hjvarfjell It did indeed mention Radka. I knew of her work with Steve Dobrogosz but I never knew she was Norweigan. And yes, the Sensel Morph really brought some stuff to the table that was pretty unique. I love to split it into a three note plate and work with multiple fingers for the same tone initially, but to microtonally slide back and forth. It gives me another way of working with tension and release, other than harmonic vehicles that is. But there are a few others that can make similar things, like the Haken continuum. But in a completely different price range. 🫣
There is a MIDI Out Module in MIDI Machines. Put that somewhere on any of the three chains and you will have MIDI OUT. Now, if you have a PC/use Windows, you might need another application to route your MIDI, but that should be the same for MG2.
@lofileif Thank you very much sir!!! The problem is that midi guitar midi out modul not recognizing my audio interfaces midi out,I try to play external synth .On midi guitar 2 it’s very easy,there are separate setup for midi out.
Ok, i think the best way to solve this is to post your question on the MIDI Guitar forum. I don’t know enough about everone’s different ways of setting up, and you also need to add what platform you are working on PC/Mac (and stuff like this). Try posting on: jamosapien.com
I have a couple of others I need to tdo first, but it is indeed getting to be an interesting topic 👍 The OTS guitars are sure to rank pretty high on such a list for instance 😉
Thanks so much for your fantastic videos , I previously got only to a very basic starting point with midiguitar 2 on a windows machine but now have the beta version if midiguitar 3 for windows. In audio settings I am only given the option of single threading or multithreading , and your video chose auto-threading , which should I choose ? Many thanks and apologies if you've already answered this in the many comments My next step is ipad midiguitar 3 ( when it drops) for live playing in my band, using the wifi portable setup you showed previously , Irig HD2,midimitr, UHost , powerbank etc my ipad is new and doesn't have the 3.5mm audio out jack , do you have a recommended USBC-C hub to provide an audio out at the same time as the USB-C in? Kindest regards and thanks again!
Autothreading is a feature coming with the next version of the beta, so you’ll just have wait a little. Use single if it isn’t struggling. If you hear obvious crackling you can go to multithreading, but that might mean slightly more latency. I am not sure my previous setup for the iPad is going to be the best with MG3. I will most likely have to buy a new iPad (the one one I used for MG2 is way too old) and then I might be able to come with specific recommendations, but sure, I will most likely need some sort of USB hub to at least use both an audio interface and the Uhost. But let me get back on that when it is time? 🤝👍
Wow, I lover your playing on the Ample Upright Bass. I'm trying the Ample P bass demo, but it seems to have way more latency than my SampleTank basses. I'm using Win 11, Midi Guitar 3 HEX and GP-10 interface. I'm not going to purchase Ample if I can't get it working as good as your demo. Any tips on the settings, is MPE best for it?
Oh, I am using this JB Audio MPEfy for maximum playability. But before you run off and purchase anything you don't need, the Hextracker is just undergoing functionality updates and is soon going to support string-to-channel assignment. (Like FTP or Jamstik) And this also means a little extra something for any Amplesound instrument, as you can start using their MIDI Guitar settings. I don't know how well that is going to translate to all the different instruments depending on how they are set up, but you should definitely be able to get the same kind of tracking as I do with MPEfy here. And also Ample P is not as playable as the upright or my other favorite, the Jaco fretless. Those are really awesome virtual instruments. 😀
OMG! I am beside myself right now!!! I can't wait to get the Beta installed and start using this. I've been playing a Jamstik Studio to control my virtual instruments. It doesn't suck, but it does leave a lot to be desired! What you're showing here is *huge* and is exactly the kind of thing that I've been looking for. WOOO HOOO!
Thanks 🙏 No, I don't unfortunately. But keep an eye on the beta page. That is really the place where all news and updates about any of the related software are posted. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
I totally understand starting with a very clean input, specifically with no outboard gear like pedals. To use outboard pedals etc., would you just utilize a reamp box using the clean recorded input? Kind of a newb so sorry for maybe a newb question.
Of course, you can use recorded input to trigger virtual instruments in or after MIDI Guitar 3. But then the traditional way is to record your guitar Audio on the same AUDIO track (in your DAW) that you open the MIDI Guitar 3 plugin on. MIDI Guitar 3 is an Audio effect that creates MIDI. getting that MIDI to a MIDI track looks a bit different for each DAW though. But there are some DAW Guides on the JamOrigin YT channel for a couple of them.
@@adamgraser I don't have any such information I am afraid. It is going to depend on when the developer considers the product ready. Check the JamOrigin beta page for any and all updates and news about MIDI Guitar 3. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
I was planning to buy a guitar synth setup but will give this software a try first... any plans for an iOS version in the future? I seem to do more and more production on my ipad these days..
There are plans for porting to iOS. But it is probably a bit into the future. I think the idea is to get these Mac and PC versions past the beta stage first. Keep updated on the JamOrigin beta page for any news on the iOS development. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
That's actually three different instruments: A "Boutique Acoustic" from Orange Tree Samples, a Bowed Guitar from Inoui Samples, and a Physical Modeling synth called Modus from Physical Audio. The reason for why these blend so well is probably MPE. Since all instruments move and behave similarly you don't consider them separate. 👍
Hi I've already own Roland GR55 Do you think MIDI guitar 3 would be a better option? SInce I am trying to consider whether upgrading my gear to this or hardware midi guitar like Jamstik
From the response I have been getting here I would guess MIDI Guitar 3 surpasses existing competition, but you should really try it out for yourself. There is a trial version of the beta that is out now. Look in the DOWNLOADS section on the beta page for that. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif I just downloaded the beta I was wondering if there's any tutorial I can follow? I kinda want to try different instrument with this thing but I have no idea where to start
There is no strict tutorial on how to get started per se, but you have these "Introductions" to the software videos I made for early adopters to have a place to start. And I also made this playlist for you. Start at the top, and work your way down for the newer and more in depth information. th-cam.com/play/PL16hx1uHz4KGftYcNGQUdFDdaqyWrV3-O.html&si=IwAPKPB0N6YcX2eE
MiDI Guitar itself does not have any recording capabilities beyond a looper (MIDI Machine). And that doesn’t offer any possibilities for editing really. But you can open a MIDI Out module anywhere in the patch and have your DAW of choice record it. Or you open MIDI Guitar as a plugin directly in the DAW and record that way.
No date set for an official release, but you can get it now if you like. The beta page (DOWNLOADS section). If you already have a full MG2 license you get it without the trial mode interruptions as well. 👍 www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Well, it depends a little on what DAW you are using, but generally you open MIDI Guitar 3 as an AUDIO Fx on an AUDIO track in your DAW, where the conversion to MIDI takes place. Then this is forwarded to a MIDI track either directly (if you are using a VST plugin) or by picking it up together with your other controllers (standard way for the AU version to work). Check out the DAW guides on the JamOrigin TH-cam, and see if your DAW is accounted for. www.youtube.com/@JAM-ORIGIN
Very interesting video. However, I did not understand what steps to take in order to assign via VST a sound via Kontakt 7 since in your video the guitar or double bass sound has already been assigned.
You use Kontakt in the same way as you do in any DAW. First, open Kontak in any of the free slots in any of the chains, then go in and choose a sound in Kontakt itself. If you are thinking of the assigning controllers part, I have a whole series of videos of how to do that. May I suggest an order to check these out? th-cam.com/video/TBhyLVOL-_k/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/bFr3ilP6dKc/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Vp2NZ_u6n_o/w-d-xo.html
I'll try, thank you. But from the Jam Origin website I see that it is not yet possible to download the Midi Guitar 3 version but I guess the procedure to follow is the same for Midi Guitar 2.
@massimosposaro6974 It is absolutely possible to download MIDI Guitar 3. Go into www.jamorigin.com/beta/ Scroll all the way down to DOWNLOADS. Check the FORUM for info if you have some trouble downloading. jamosapien.com
Hi, I downloaded and installed MIDI Guitar 3, as an operating system I use Windows 10. As audio device I set my M-Audio AIR 192 6, put the buffer size to 128, it doesn't show me automatic threading but I can only choose between single or multi threading. Basically I followed everything you said in the video, but no sound ever comes out (my sound card works fine). As an additional thing I have also tried assigning sounds from Native Instruments installed on my computer by first doing the Plug in Settings scan and then clicking on Instruments but nothing happens and no Native Instruments screen appears for me to choose sounds. At this point I am wondering if in order to get it to work you have to purchase the license first or in case you can also use it in trial version how can I get it to work? Thank you.
@@massimosposaro6974 First, Automatic threading is a feature in the next update. Second, I am using Mac, so there might be some differences in the way we set up. I don't know the first thing about the ASIO drivers and stuff like that. You can probably find information on the MIDI Guitar Forum about that. jamosapien.com Now, what does it say when you go into settings/Audio devices? Are you using the correct channel for your guitar? Is anything showing in the MIDI Guitar tracker interface (beams of colored light corresponding to your note triggering.)? If you go to the introduction patch and click on the keyboard, can you hear anything? You don't have to buy anything to try the software. That would go against the purpose of having a trial.
Yes; I have used it in GigPerformer. Depending on what setup you are using there could be an issue with setting up with multiple instances of the plugin. This is, of course, to be solved (it is still in beta) but in the meantime, you should probably stick to using a) The standalone version of MG3 outside of GP, or b) using one instance of MG3 on a Global rack for all local Rackspaces you are using. Don't forget to ask on the Forum as well. There are many GP users there with a lot more experience than I have, plus it might be a Windows issue, and then I am totally lost. jamosapien.com
@@lofileif Thanks! What I haven't tried, and you suggested it, is to use MG3 in the global rack. What happens when I've tried to use it thus far is that it (gig performer) can't handle MG3s pop-up messages that have to be cleared by clicking "OK". That's a guess, mind you. I'll report back on my luck (or not) with the global rackspace.
Nylon strings work, but perhaps not as good as steel stringed guitars. And yes the RMC output should be your best option. Try the demo version - it is free. Under DOWNLODS www.jamorigin.com/beta/
You should probably go for the HEX tracker then. Polyphony is as good as anything you've tried and latency is only a problem if you want it to be. th-cam.com/video/ueYTdgI57qk/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif Sure that latency is the main issue. n our reality in this universe, physics tells us It takes a while to turn analog signal to convert to a digital one. Also, bass guitar suffer much worse then a guitar. When will bass have the same signal conversion as a guitar...
I've heard that software solutions cannot ever meet hardware ones. I'm looking for the BEST midi tracking regardless of price. Is that the Fishman Triple Play or GraphTec Ghost system?
Hardware like fretscanning or any other type of instantanious recognision of where you are positioned pn the neck will of course be faster than any software solution. But it is totally uniteresting if it isn’t also high quality dynamic tracking with great handling of polyphony for instance. There are fretscanning options out there like the Rob O’Reilly guitars, but I havent had a chance to try one so I can’t say much. The fishman triple play has been viewed as the fastest solution for years now, but that is also a pitch-to-midi solution. The software is doing the conversion of six audio streams coming from the hexaphonic pickups in use. Graphtech isn’t reslly doing more than providing a signal out from your guitar, that can be converted into MIDI by some software down the line. The best solution today (I believe) is to use a hexaphonic pickup into the MIDI Guitar 3 MGHEX Tracker. That is the expansion to the standard version developed especially for us that already had guitars with thia particular setup. It is a mix between a hardware and a software maybe, but so is everything.
@lofileif wasn't even referring to that, but just like the GraphTec Ghost system built into the Carvin NS1 (It can be installed in any other guitar) would give you this ability since they have a Midi version. That's like $300 for the pickup then $100-200 for the install, so like $500 total for perfect immediate tracking to turn any guitar into a midi controller and it handled pitch bends and fast playing without any loss of notes (look up Steve Oliver's demo of the NS1). Also, a midi to USB is cheap/free too. That doesn't seem too pricey to me, so is this software solution more for people who can't afford $500?
I think I described the basics before. These guitars (Carvin and Godin, and some others) have something they call synth acess. That is not to say they are synthguitars. They do NOT send out MIDI. They have hexaphonic/divided pickups that can be used with 13-pin outputs (sometimes referred to as MIDI jacks/outputs). These can be used with pedals with MIDI converting capabilities. But the actual MIDI conversion has nothing to do with these guitars. What I am suggesting is that you can use a guitar with a pickup like this and connect to your computer and use the MIDI Guitar software insted, for the best conversion we have today.
@lofileif Yeah, I understand that, but the synth to midi box is like 50 bucks and there's no latency. Sorry, I should have said that explicitly. It also retains all six individual strings, hexaphonic format so you can edit them individually in your DAW. That's why I'm asking, why use a software solution when that's available for relatively cheap?
Use whatever you feel comfortable with. You asked about ”best tracking”, and I have given you my opinion. Try the free demos for yourself. I believe that is the best way of getting to know anything.Look in the DOWNLOADS section: www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Some of the pluck type sounds in Phase Plant are very hard on CPU, and cause an issue for me. Unfortunate because you definitely want less latency with that type of sound.
Agreed! I generally don't get into trouble with the Mac Studio, but I can't even play a third of the instruments on my MBP i9 (which at the time I bought that was a pretty decent computer. But there are some crazy demanding synths, and I too wish for it not to be those that are the bottleneck right now. But it is what it is. 👍
You can get MG3 today as a beta. If you buy MG2, you become a licence holder. And a licence holder can use MG3 without the trial interruptions. Go to the dowloads section on the beta page and download the latest version of the beta: www.jamorigin.com/beta/ If you want to buy the MG2 licence to unlock also MG3, you do that at the normal place: www.jamorigin.com
Website is right! It is out in a beta version for early adopters. Anyone who has MIDI Guitar 2 since before or buys MIDI guitar 2 now gets a license to the beta version. But it is available as a trial for anyone at www.jamorigin.com/beta/ Check out the DOWNLOADS section. 👍
Its restricted, … i use the Version 2, but the Version 3 seems to be much better. Its not easy to play because the lag. Midi Git is very important. I have bought an Zivix Jamstick Deluxe, … reached for.
There are no restrictions to try. Go to the DOWNLOADS section of the beta page to grab a copy of the trial. If you already own MG2 you can unlock MG3 as well (and get past the timeout prompt). www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Sorry, I read your above comment as "It is out yet only as beta?. My bad. It is NOT out of beta yet. I don't have a clue when it is going to be released. You can keep up to date with the latest news on the beta page: www.jamorigin.com/beta or check in the forum: jamosapien.com
@@lofileif Piano, I want the typical hand separation of a piano player, Chain 1 Filter out E2-E3 and transpose down an octave, chain 2 let say Filter out G2 to E6, then mix the two chains midi before I send it to the Piano VSTi. Currently I can do this if I use two Piano VSTi's, one on each Chain but it would be much effective if I could mix the two midis first then send it to a single Piano plug.
Bitwig unfortunately doesn't work with MPE generated from an Audio track yet. As they say themselves: "The way MPE works in Bitwig Studio is that MPE from a midi controller gets translated to Bitwig’s per note expressions, and those are being recorded in clips and used to play the internal Bitwig instruments. When playing back recorded notes with note expressions to VSTs, it converts it back to Midi MPE before sending it to the VSTs. But if you generate MPE Midi within a device chain and then send it directly to our internal devices, there is no translation to the note expressions and the devices are currently not completely optimised to receive pure MPE Midi date instead of note expressions. This is something we might improve on in the future." This is sad since I like the basic setup a lot.
@@lofileif RME Fireface, Guitar with EMG 81/85 PUPS, Straight instrument channel, correct input level, no plugins, tracking is terrible. Have you tried the old versions, they seem stable and track perfectly. BTW the GUI is a dissaster!
Hey, if you are happy with an earlier version, you should stay with that. And any suggestions you have for improvements are more useful on the Forum. That is where any exchange with the developer takes place.
It is a Swedish company that sells these actually: www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-bite-controller-2 You can check out some of its applications in this video I did a couple of years ago. th-cam.com/video/fnj5Q_kjpdM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=L0ffcHOCAfkpMjCg
I hope people realize the opportunity here. Having come from the Roland G-707 G 700 days up to the GK3 / GR-55, AXON 100/Triple Play etc this is a major giant leap in accessibility (financial) and convenience on top of tracking improvements and all without hexaphonic pickups!!! I'm more than glad to have purchased MG to encourage development and reward such dedication to making this possible. I thank you and congratulate you, developers, for this achievement! Very cool times in guitar midi!!! Buy it now!
Thanks, and I'll be sure to pass your thanks on to the developer too. I can only agree with you that it is a cool times ahead for MIDI guitar. 👍
I purchased it Sunday gone.More than happy to play my part. Thanks to videos and comments like this.Small developers do need support.Haven't got to really run MG3 being a PC guy but MG2 is good for now till PC beta comes out
@@goldenknighthawk Yup I bought MG2 as well and it is definitely good enough compared to most, if not all, of the hexaphonic pickup tech out there. Got it on ipad and mac as well as PC. So good! :)
@goldenknighthawk PC beta is out. Check the DOWNLOADS section on the beta page: www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Hi Leif, do you have a list of plugins you feel are most compatible with midi guitar 3 that avoid the latency issues you speak about?
Thx
Stephen
I'm glad I chanced upon this. I had a "Roland-ready Strat" and the Roland guitar synth of the time around 20 yrs ago. Beyond the sounds of the Roland box itself its tracking meant no real use of virtual instruments was anywhere in the vicinity of doable. I didn't know audio-to-MIDI had developed so all you need is software and an electric guitar. (I'll never be any keyboardist.)
Audio to MIDI has indeed come a LONG way from the days when Roland was pretty much the only game in town. I also have a GR ready strat and its actually still usable with the MIDI Guitar 3 HEX software. Its an extra $150 above the $150 for the base license but if you are playing multiple strings (i.e. chords, troads, double stops, etc...) it is a noticeable difference.
Anxiously waiting for the iPad version!!!
I still don’t have any news on that, I’m afraid.
Me too!
Once again, Leif provides an incredibly detailed walkthrough of the features and opportunities that this tool provides. Excellent video!
Thank you Billy. Makes me so happy to hear 🙏🙏🙏
Have a Midi guitar Casio MG-510.. The damping is very important. Sometimes I use to put tape over the strings near the bridge. Unfortunately the electronics on that guitar has an issue. Can’t get any sound out of the midi part. It’s a playable guitar though so I’m again on to buy Jam Origin. You’ve really made it sound good.
Thank you! Yeah, you can start by trying it in demo/trial mode. It is free and you don’t need to sign up for anything. Just head on over to the DOWNLOADS section of the beta page and get one: www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Holy hell, that guitar lick at 3:57 was AWESOME!!!
Did you like that? The secret sauce to that is the Neural DSP Tom Morello Dive Bomb. 💣
@@lofileif Hell yeah! Thanks for sharing the secret sauce. 🤘
@@leinaddnalkrik9009 No problem! This channel is all about sharing and learning. 👍
Nice I see they got with contact and Roli on this one
Sorry for posting on a 3 month old video (as of this writing), but I expect this video to be a valuable resource for anyone getting started or trying out MG3 for a long time. At least until if/when you make an updated version at some point if you feel it's warranted and are so inclined.
With that verbose qualifier out of the way I had an input gain question, since I have a similar audio interface. I'm using a Focusrite 2i2. The latest thinking with input gain as it relates to popular amp sim software is to set the interface gain as low as it goes for more realistic amp sims. Or to bump up the gain only modestly and use the amp sims input gain to bring it back down (with this latter approach supposedly resulting in a better S2N ratio). This topic will likely continue to be debated, but since we're NOT talking about an amp sim here, but rather conversion of polyphonic audio to midi, where a good signal to noise ratio is desired, what are you finding works well with your Scarlett 2i4? Obviously this isn't going to be a one-size-fits-all answer, since different pickup have different output levels, different players will have a varying ranges of dynamics in their playing depending on how they play (agressive/light picking, tapping, fingerstyle, hybrid-picking and on and on). Nevertheless, what's working well for you in your setup in terms of the gain knob on your Focusrite? Are you keeping at its lowest or boosting it a bit?
Sorry for using so many words to ask such a basic question. Bad habit of mine.
Ok, so i’ll do the completely opposite thing, and keep this as short as I can. I keep input gain as low as I can possibly have it in MG3. I feel it is the best thing for dynamics. MGHex on the other hand is much harder to dial in and I can’t offer any likewise simple settings suggestions for that.
I appreciate you doing "the opposite thing". Agree with the dynamics aspect. Not planning on testing having a compressor between my guitar and MG3 for the same reason, even though I might use a compressor for other styles of playing. Thanks for the input, no pun intended.
This video should help users have a positive experience trying MG3, and avoid the mistakes that can make using MIDI more difficult than it needs to be. Thanks for pointing out the details.
That’s what I am hoping for! Thanks 🙏
Tack Leif, this is exactly what Ive been waiting for!
Tack Mikael. Make me happy to hear. There have been a few requests for something like this, but I never know if I am providing something worthwhile, or just rambling sometimes. 😄👍
@@lofileif waiting for the continuation, i'm sure there are more people in need of such. MIDI Guitar 3 is a game changer!
@mhenkka Thanks! The next part (since the plugins settings will be adressed) will venture into the difference between MPE and legacy MIDI territory, so I must try my hardest to find a way to explain this without just resorting to technical jargon - and this is something of a challange. But I’ll do my best, and hopefully it will be helpful to some people out there. MG3 is indeed a giant leap forward. 😀👍
How could I have missed this? Thanks a lot very informational and useful. Again, Magic content from you each time!
I don't know Pasha. Perhaps I need to start bugging you guys with this "like, subscribe and Smash the notification bell" crap (whatever that means 🤷🏼♂️) But the important thing is you found it, and seem to like it! 😀 👍 Much appreciated! 🙏
Can't wait for this to fully release. Just discovered the world of MIDI guitar and realllllly want it to be better than it is. Tried a few Jamstiks and apparently they don't know how to manufacture a guitar, returned them all, then picked up a Fishman Tripleplay and I'm finding the software end of that disappointing (at least, as long as I can't find a way to compress the velocity range, which so far I haven't).
Yes, the MIDI guitar dynamics. I am not happy with that part either. But hopefully, those days are gone with MG3. I can use my favorite guitar an retain the full dynamic span for almost any virtual instrument or synth. Now it is just up to me to communicate this newfound knowledge to the rest of the world. 😬 I am hoping for a "word of mouth" movement to help spread the message. 🤗
velocity 0-127 ? or latency U mean ?
@@sepic5407 Yeah, the one thing I liked on the Jamstik was I could just set the min velocity to like 50+. This really helped it pick up hammer on's and pull off's, and it just compressed the dynamic range between 50-127. On the Fishman, so far it just seems to have velocity gains, so I can just boost the input so it sees light playing as 50+, but then most of my playing is just blasting at the top end, everything coming in 127, almost nothing in between.
@@lofileif Haha well you're definitely where I heard about MIDI Guitar 3, and you got me interested, so it's working.
Thank you for all your videos. It has been tremendous and it works great in my studio one 7 Pro.
Thanks David! Glad to hear! 😀👍
Really good walk-through and explanation of setup and possible pitfalls. Good job, as always. I look forward to getting time to dig into it as the summer's construction projects get finished. Right now I'm too exhausted to do anything in the studio. 😉 Take care. 😊
Thank you. All in good time! I remodeled my studio the other day. Mostly a new Studio desk so that I can get my Kawai VPC 1 out of the way. But another thing: I just watched a four-part series on Norwegian jazz. About "fire store" (Andersen, Christensen, Garbarek och Rypdal) , and also Karin Krog and onward. This was REALLY good. I guess you have seen it already, but it just came out on Swedish Television, so I binged it in a day: www.nrk.no/presse/programomtaler/ny-nrk-serie-om-det-norske-jazzeventyret-1.16766604
@@lofileif That's really cool. I haven't seen it. Maybe I'll have to give it a look. Very good jazz musicians. Karin Krogh too, even though I have a childhood memory of her singing the most manicly upbeat and shrill and terrible version of the jazz standard "When you smile" in a show on NRK. It was horrid. I guess I must have been about eight years old at the time, but that experience stuck with me so bad that it's just during the last ten years I have been able to listen to her without having it destroyed by at the same time hearing that one in my head. ;-) Today I wonder if she might have been on speed at that time, or something. Congratulations on your remodeling and new studio desk. So now you have the Kawai in a keyboard drawer/retractable shelf, or something like that? 🙂
@@hjvarfjell Well, this series was well made and guided me through a richer Norwegian Jazz scene than I would have dared hope for. Karin and her connection to John Surman, Nils-Petter Molvaer, Eivind Aarset, and the George Russell story. Most interesting. Never mind your previous "bad experience" ( you can skip the first chapter if you must, but I found it all very educational). And yes I have the keyboard on a desk that neatly tucks away, so I can start using my other controllers too finally. I have a Seaboard, and a Sensel Morph and a couple of other controllers that I haven't been able to find room for before.
@@lofileif Oh, I think I'll manage listening to Karin these days. She's a very good singer and she's been working with several of other great jazz musicians. 😊 Did the series also cover Radka Toneff? She's one of my favorites, and we lost her way too early. Depression is a bitch. Oh, well. I was aware that you had the Seaboard. I've seen it in the background in a few of your videos. Too bad the Morph is discontinued. It looked interesting. Must be good to be able to have them out and use them for more extended periods of time, without having to clear them away every time.
@hjvarfjell It did indeed mention Radka. I knew of her work with Steve Dobrogosz but I never knew she was Norweigan.
And yes, the Sensel Morph really brought some stuff to the table that was pretty unique. I love to split it into a three note plate and work with multiple fingers for the same tone initially, but to microtonally slide back and forth. It gives me another way of working with tension and release, other than harmonic vehicles that is.
But there are a few others that can make similar things, like the Haken continuum. But in a completely different price range. 🫣
Great overview! Thanks a ton!
Thanks Peter! Glad it was helpful! 🙏👍
Thank you,really helpful
I’m really happy you like it! Thanks 🙏
Thank you. This helps greatly.
Thanks! Glad to hear it! 😀👍
Thank you for video.How to set up midi out to external device?On 2 nd version its very easy, but in beta 3 I can't find midi settings.Thank you.
There is a MIDI Out Module in MIDI Machines. Put that somewhere on any of the three chains and you will have MIDI OUT. Now, if you have a PC/use Windows, you might need another application to route your MIDI, but that should be the same for MG2.
@lofileif Thank you very much sir!!! The problem is that midi guitar midi out modul not recognizing my audio interfaces midi out,I try to play external synth .On midi guitar 2 it’s very easy,there are separate setup for midi out.
Ok, i think the best way to solve this is to post your question on the MIDI Guitar forum. I don’t know enough about everone’s different ways of setting up, and you also need to add what platform you are working on PC/Mac (and stuff like this). Try posting on: jamosapien.com
The beat kicks and I start rockin' (c)
It would be awesome if you could compare some of the sample based guitars, and perhaps rank them in terms of compatibility with midi guitar 3 :)
I have a couple of others I need to tdo first, but it is indeed getting to be an interesting topic 👍 The OTS guitars are sure to rank pretty high on such a list for instance 😉
@@lofileif great to hear 😉
Stort tack Leif!
Thanks so much for your fantastic videos , I previously got only to a very basic starting point with midiguitar 2 on a windows machine but now have the beta version if midiguitar 3 for windows.
In audio settings I am only given the option of single threading or multithreading , and your video chose auto-threading , which should I choose ? Many thanks and apologies if you've already answered this in the many comments
My next step is ipad midiguitar 3 ( when it drops) for live playing in my band, using the wifi portable setup you showed previously , Irig HD2,midimitr, UHost , powerbank etc
my ipad is new and doesn't have the 3.5mm audio out jack , do you have a recommended USBC-C hub to provide an audio out at the same time as the USB-C in?
Kindest regards and thanks again!
Autothreading is a feature coming with the next version of the beta, so you’ll just have wait a little. Use single if it isn’t struggling. If you hear obvious crackling you can go to multithreading, but that might mean slightly more latency.
I am not sure my previous setup for the iPad is going to be the best with MG3. I will most likely have to buy a new iPad (the one one I used for MG2 is way too old) and then I might be able to come with specific recommendations, but sure, I will most likely need some sort of USB hub to at least use both an audio interface and the Uhost. But let me get back on that when it is time? 🤝👍
Wow, I lover your playing on the Ample Upright Bass. I'm trying the Ample P bass demo, but it seems to have way more latency than my SampleTank basses. I'm using Win 11, Midi Guitar 3 HEX and GP-10 interface. I'm not going to purchase Ample if I can't get it working as good as your demo. Any tips on the settings, is MPE best for it?
Oh, I am using this JB Audio MPEfy for maximum playability. But before you run off and purchase anything you don't need, the Hextracker is just undergoing functionality updates and is soon going to support string-to-channel assignment. (Like FTP or Jamstik) And this also means a little extra something for any Amplesound instrument, as you can start using their MIDI Guitar settings. I don't know how well that is going to translate to all the different instruments depending on how they are set up, but you should definitely be able to get the same kind of tracking as I do with MPEfy here. And also Ample P is not as playable as the upright or my other favorite, the Jaco fretless. Those are really awesome virtual instruments. 😀
OMG! I am beside myself right now!!! I can't wait to get the Beta installed and start using this.
I've been playing a Jamstik Studio to control my virtual instruments. It doesn't suck, but it does leave a lot to be desired!
What you're showing here is *huge* and is exactly the kind of thing that I've been looking for.
WOOO HOOO!
Glad to hear! Let me know what you think about it once you’ve had a chance to play with it a little? 😀👍
Hi - great tutorial video. Thank you. Do you have any idea if/when Midi Bass 3 will be released in Beta?
Thanks 🙏 No, I don't unfortunately. But keep an eye on the beta page. That is really the place where all news and updates about any of the related software are posted. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif Thanks. Will do.
I totally understand starting with a very clean input, specifically with no outboard gear like pedals. To use outboard pedals etc., would you just utilize a reamp box using the clean recorded input? Kind of a newb so sorry for maybe a newb question.
Of course, you can use recorded input to trigger virtual instruments in or after MIDI Guitar 3. But then the traditional way is to record your guitar Audio on the same AUDIO track (in your DAW) that you open the MIDI Guitar 3 plugin on. MIDI Guitar 3 is an Audio effect that creates MIDI. getting that MIDI to a MIDI track looks a bit different for each DAW though. But there are some DAW Guides on the JamOrigin YT channel for a couple of them.
@@lofileif thanks for the clarification. I see that you have it still in Beta, when will this be released for purchase? I'm excited to start.
@@adamgraser I don't have any such information I am afraid. It is going to depend on when the developer considers the product ready. Check the JamOrigin beta page for any and all updates and news about MIDI Guitar 3. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
I was planning to buy a guitar synth setup but will give this software a try first... any plans for an iOS version in the future? I seem to do more and more production on my ipad these days..
There are plans for porting to iOS. But it is probably a bit into the future. I think the idea is to get these Mac and PC versions past the beta stage first. Keep updated on the JamOrigin beta page for any news on the iOS development. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
How many takes to hit the interface input like that? :). Be honest.
Just one! 😂 Just pull it out, and reverse the video clip! 👍
@@lofileif goddammit. I thought it looked unreal. Very clever :)
Internets is all about smoke and mirrors, you know. Don't believe anything you see. Especially not from me 😉
Master, which library is the acoustic guitar at 10:05?
That's actually three different instruments: A "Boutique Acoustic" from Orange Tree Samples, a Bowed Guitar from Inoui Samples, and a Physical Modeling synth called Modus from Physical Audio. The reason for why these blend so well is probably MPE. Since all instruments move and behave similarly you don't consider them separate. 👍
Hi
I've already own Roland GR55
Do you think MIDI guitar 3 would be a better option?
SInce I am trying to consider whether upgrading my gear to this or hardware midi guitar like Jamstik
From the response I have been getting here I would guess MIDI Guitar 3 surpasses existing competition, but you should really try it out for yourself. There is a trial version of the beta that is out now. Look in the DOWNLOADS section on the beta page for that. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif I just downloaded the beta
I was wondering if there's any tutorial I can follow?
I kinda want to try different instrument with this thing but I have no idea where to start
There is no strict tutorial on how to get started per se, but you have these "Introductions" to the software videos I made for early adopters to have a place to start. And I also made this playlist for you. Start at the top, and work your way down for the newer and more in depth information.
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@@lofileif Thanks for your help!
Thx a lot, Master.
Thank YOU! 🙏
Does MG offer any way to edit the MIDI "piano scroll" data? I don't see where or whether raw MIDI data is recorded.
MiDI Guitar itself does not have any recording capabilities beyond a looper (MIDI Machine). And that doesn’t offer any possibilities for editing really. But you can open a MIDI Out module anywhere in the patch and have your DAW of choice record it. Or you open MIDI Guitar as a plugin directly in the DAW and record that way.
has the tracking improved since guitar midi 2?
Yes!
Do we know when this is going to be released?
No date set for an official release, but you can get it now if you like. The beta page (DOWNLOADS section). If you already have a full MG2 license you get it without the trial mode interruptions as well. 👍 www.jamorigin.com/beta/
how do you get midi out of the plugin and into a midi track in the daw?
Well, it depends a little on what DAW you are using, but generally you open MIDI Guitar 3 as an AUDIO Fx on an AUDIO track in your DAW, where the conversion to MIDI takes place. Then this is forwarded to a MIDI track either directly (if you are using a VST plugin) or by picking it up together with your other controllers (standard way for the AU version to work). Check out the DAW guides on the JamOrigin TH-cam, and see if your DAW is accounted for. www.youtube.com/@JAM-ORIGIN
Very interesting video. However, I did not understand what steps to take in order to assign via VST a sound via Kontakt 7 since in your video the guitar or double bass sound has already been assigned.
You use Kontakt in the same way as you do in any DAW. First, open Kontak in any of the free slots in any of the chains, then go in and choose a sound in Kontakt itself. If you are thinking of the assigning controllers part, I have a whole series of videos of how to do that.
May I suggest an order to check these out?
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I'll try, thank you. But from the Jam Origin website I see that it is not yet possible to download the Midi Guitar 3 version but I guess the procedure to follow is the same for Midi Guitar 2.
@massimosposaro6974 It is absolutely possible to download MIDI Guitar 3. Go into
www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Scroll all the way down to DOWNLOADS. Check the FORUM for info if you have some trouble downloading.
jamosapien.com
Hi, I downloaded and installed MIDI Guitar 3, as an operating system I use Windows 10. As audio device I set my M-Audio AIR 192 6, put the buffer size to 128, it doesn't show me automatic threading but I can only choose between single or multi threading. Basically I followed everything you said in the video, but no sound ever comes out (my sound card works fine). As an additional thing I have also tried assigning sounds from Native Instruments installed on my computer by first doing the Plug in Settings scan and then clicking on Instruments but nothing happens and no Native Instruments screen appears for me to choose sounds. At this point I am wondering if in order to get it to work you have to purchase the license first or in case you can also use it in trial version how can I get it to work? Thank you.
@@massimosposaro6974 First, Automatic threading is a feature in the next update. Second, I am using Mac, so there might be some differences in the way we set up. I don't know the first thing about the ASIO drivers and stuff like that. You can probably find information on the MIDI Guitar Forum about that. jamosapien.com
Now, what does it say when you go into settings/Audio devices? Are you using the correct channel for your guitar? Is anything showing in the MIDI Guitar tracker interface (beams of colored light corresponding to your note triggering.)? If you go to the introduction patch and click on the keyboard, can you hear anything? You don't have to buy anything to try the software. That would go against the purpose of having a trial.
having trouble getting MG3 working in Gig Performer. Has anyone else tried it there?
Yes; I have used it in GigPerformer. Depending on what setup you are using there could be an issue with setting up with multiple instances of the plugin. This is, of course, to be solved (it is still in beta) but in the meantime, you should probably stick to using a) The standalone version of MG3 outside of GP, or b) using one instance of MG3 on a Global rack for all local Rackspaces you are using. Don't forget to ask on the Forum as well. There are many GP users there with a lot more experience than I have, plus it might be a Windows issue, and then I am totally lost. jamosapien.com
@@lofileif Thanks! What I haven't tried, and you suggested it, is to use MG3 in the global rack. What happens when I've tried to use it thus far is that it (gig performer) can't handle MG3s pop-up messages that have to be cleared by clicking "OK". That's a guess, mind you. I'll report back on my luck (or not) with the global rackspace.
will the direct audio from the rmc pickups work ok using nylon strings?
Nylon strings work, but perhaps not as good as steel stringed guitars. And yes the RMC output should be your best option. Try the demo version - it is free. Under DOWNLODS
www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif thank you. and thank you for your very informative and expert videos and for displaying your beautiful and awesome playing.
Thank you for those kind words. 🙏🙏🙏
Looks good and still, latency and polyphony are the main issues. Maybe, just maybe an AI will improve it but still, the latency will always be there.
You should probably go for the HEX tracker then. Polyphony is as good as anything you've tried and latency is only a problem if you want it to be. th-cam.com/video/ueYTdgI57qk/w-d-xo.html
@@lofileif
Sure that latency is the main issue. n our reality in this universe, physics tells us It takes a while to turn analog signal to convert to a digital one.
Also, bass guitar suffer much worse then a guitar. When will bass have the same signal conversion as a guitar...
I've heard that software solutions cannot ever meet hardware ones. I'm looking for the BEST midi tracking regardless of price. Is that the Fishman Triple Play or GraphTec Ghost system?
Hardware like fretscanning or any other type of instantanious recognision of where you are positioned pn the neck will of course be faster than any software solution. But it is totally uniteresting if it isn’t also high quality dynamic tracking with great handling of polyphony for instance. There are fretscanning options out there like the Rob O’Reilly guitars, but I havent had a chance to try one so I can’t say much. The fishman triple play has been viewed as the fastest solution for years now, but that is also a pitch-to-midi solution. The software is doing the conversion of six audio streams coming from the hexaphonic pickups in use. Graphtech isn’t reslly doing more than providing a signal out from your guitar, that can be converted into MIDI by some software down the line. The best solution today (I believe) is to use a hexaphonic pickup into the MIDI Guitar 3 MGHEX Tracker. That is the expansion to the standard version developed especially for us that already had guitars with thia particular setup. It is a mix between a hardware and a software maybe, but so is everything.
@lofileif wasn't even referring to that, but just like the GraphTec Ghost system built into the Carvin NS1 (It can be installed in any other guitar) would give you this ability since they have a Midi version. That's like $300 for the pickup then $100-200 for the install, so like $500 total for perfect immediate tracking to turn any guitar into a midi controller and it handled pitch bends and fast playing without any loss of notes (look up Steve Oliver's demo of the NS1). Also, a midi to USB is cheap/free too. That doesn't seem too pricey to me, so is this software solution more for people who can't afford $500?
I think I described the basics before. These guitars (Carvin and Godin, and some others) have something they call synth acess. That is not to say they are synthguitars. They do NOT send out MIDI. They have hexaphonic/divided pickups that can be used with 13-pin outputs (sometimes referred to as MIDI jacks/outputs). These can be used with pedals with MIDI converting capabilities. But the actual MIDI conversion has nothing to do with these guitars. What I am suggesting is that you can use a guitar with a pickup like this and connect to your computer and use the MIDI Guitar software insted, for the best conversion we have today.
@lofileif Yeah, I understand that, but the synth to midi box is like 50 bucks and there's no latency. Sorry, I should have said that explicitly. It also retains all six individual strings, hexaphonic format so you can edit them individually in your DAW. That's why I'm asking, why use a software solution when that's available for relatively cheap?
Use whatever you feel comfortable with. You asked about ”best tracking”, and I have given you my opinion. Try the free demos for yourself. I believe that is the best way of getting to know anything.Look in the DOWNLOADS section: www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Some of the pluck type sounds in Phase Plant are very hard on CPU, and cause an issue for me. Unfortunate because you definitely want less latency with that type of sound.
Agreed! I generally don't get into trouble with the Mac Studio, but I can't even play a third of the instruments on my MBP i9 (which at the time I bought that was a pretty decent computer. But there are some crazy demanding synths, and I too wish for it not to be those that are the bottleneck right now. But it is what it is. 👍
When is Midi 3 available? If you buy Midi 2, is there an upgrade path?
You can get MG3 today as a beta. If you buy MG2, you become a licence holder. And a licence holder can use MG3 without the trial interruptions. Go to the dowloads section on the beta page and download the latest version of the beta:
www.jamorigin.com/beta/
If you want to buy the MG2 licence to unlock also MG3, you do that at the normal place:
www.jamorigin.com
It is not available as of today, still, any idea when it will be available?
It is avalible as a beta. Check under Downloads on this page: www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif Thanks!
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Is this available. Website says no
Website is right! It is out in a beta version for early adopters. Anyone who has MIDI Guitar 2 since before or buys MIDI guitar 2 now gets a license to the beta version. But it is available as a trial for anyone at www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Check out the DOWNLOADS section. 👍
Its restricted, … i use the Version 2, but the Version 3 seems to be much better.
Its not easy to play because the lag. Midi Git is very important. I have bought an Zivix Jamstick Deluxe, … reached for.
There are no restrictions to try. Go to the DOWNLOADS section of the beta page to grab a copy of the trial. If you already own MG2 you can unlock MG3 as well (and get past the timeout prompt). www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Is it out yet or only in beta?
Yes!
@@lofileif I can only find the beta version 😯 Any idea of when the full product will be released?
Sorry, I read your above comment as "It is out yet only as beta?. My bad. It is NOT out of beta yet. I don't have a clue when it is going to be released. You can keep up to date with the latest news on the beta page: www.jamorigin.com/beta
or check in the forum:
jamosapien.com
@@lofileif Thanks man! I decided to pay for it anyways :)
Too bad we don't have a midi mixer. I could think of several setup ideas where I could use one.
What do you mean by a MIDI mixer here really? Please give me an example of what it is you can't do?
Well that gives me the idea of using my Akai MidiMix in Bitwig to control the sync and effects. Also midi bass pedals......for bass & drum.
So good we have had this one for a long time - try KMX-8 or KMX-16
@@lofileif Piano, I want the typical hand separation of a piano player, Chain 1 Filter out E2-E3 and transpose down an octave, chain 2 let say Filter out G2 to E6, then mix the two chains midi before I send it to the Piano VSTi. Currently I can do this if I use two Piano VSTi's, one on each Chain but it would be much effective if I could mix the two midis first then send it to a single Piano plug.
Bitwig unfortunately doesn't work with MPE generated from an Audio track yet. As they say themselves:
"The way MPE works in Bitwig Studio is that MPE from a midi controller gets translated to Bitwig’s per note expressions, and those are being recorded in clips and used to play the internal Bitwig instruments. When playing back recorded notes with note expressions to VSTs, it converts it back to Midi MPE before sending it to the VSTs.
But if you generate MPE Midi within a device chain and then send it directly to our internal devices, there is no translation to the note expressions and the devices are currently not completely optimised to receive pure MPE Midi date instead of note expressions. This is something we might improve on in the future."
This is sad since I like the basic setup a lot.
Back to 0.6.1 BETA for me, released 11 years ago! What's taking so long? This version is very very buggy and far worse than mine.
Yeah? Buggy you say. Care to elaborate? What settings, plugins did you try testing it. MPE?
@@lofileif RME Fireface, Guitar with EMG 81/85 PUPS, Straight instrument channel, correct input level, no plugins, tracking is terrible. Have you tried the old versions, they seem stable and track perfectly. BTW the GUI is a dissaster!
Hey, if you are happy with an earlier version, you should stay with that. And any suggestions you have for improvements are more useful on the Forum. That is where any exchange with the developer takes place.
Hey, @LoFiLeifw here can I get that controller you have in your mouth, here in Brazil I didn't find such a thing. I accept gifts, Hugs!!!
It is a Swedish company that sells these actually:
www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-bite-controller-2
You can check out some of its applications in this video I did a couple of years ago.
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