Skyward Sword HD is Fantastic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2021
- Against all odds, I don't actually have a problem with a remaster for once. Isn't that neat?
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Skyward Sword HD Retrospective Review Critique KingK - เกม
Man, I love everyone telling me "I can't believe you support them selling this back to people at full price."
I don't. I would implore everyone to watch the video to its conclusion before commenting (I know you won't do it, but hey: I tried)
Actually, to add onto this, if you don't buy your games digitally I would actually advise people to buy SSHD used, because then Nintendo won't get your active support for pricing their games too high.
Imagine people watching an entire video before writing a comment about your video. What a concept.
balls but with a z= ballz lol
I was unable to get into Skyward Sword previously. I'm glad to see the QoL features are significant enough, and the gameplay experience smooth enough, for you to definitively recommend this over an emulator.
The $60 price tag is pretty steep, though. At $20 I'd almost certainly have picked it up. $60, though? And as you mentioned, one of the most major QoL features is locked behind an Amiibo...
im pretty sure you can emulate the skyward sword HD switch port on the switch emulator, or at least will be able to very soon, so i dont think people really need to buy this game, if they already played the wii version. Also is skipping cutscenes and dialogue really that great? you're essentially skipping the game, which ideally, is what we are trying to experience. If we are skipping it, it maybe wasnt that enjoyable to begin with.
Pretty much what i've been doing honestly. I tend to get good price cuts on them too so it's better to buy their games used anyway.
My favorite part of playing it is how relaxing it can be. I don’t even have to touch my controller and link walks forward automatically. So convenient
fix it, it's really easy and it works!
@@DMRdance how
@@thelegendofthem6120 check the video "how to fix your joycon drift permanently" by VK's channel.
You'll just need to open it and place a piece of paper under the control stick. It worked perfectly for me.
@@DMRdance thanks love
hol up
Guys I want you to note when he’s skipping through the text boxes he’s not doing it at full speed. If your heart so desires you can mash the B button like there’s no tomorrow and it skips through extremely fast. It’s awesome for the second play through on hero mode
I wished Hero mode was selectable from the beginning for us who come from having already playing in the original, so we can ramp up the challenge
@@pablomonsalve3911 There's a reason it's not that way though. In Skyward Sword, on top of being a hard mode, Hero Mode is also a New Game+.
@@DaSheepKiller which is kind of a dumb decision ngl
@@DaSheepKiller so hero mode is like new game+ in batman: arkham knight? (new game+ is played on the hardest difficulty: knightmare) which is unlocked after beating the game
@@pablomonsalve3911 this exactly
I'm shocked that fast-fowardable dialogue wasn't in the base game. Like, Twilight Princess had it in the Wii version, so it makes 0 sense to not have it. Glad they fixed it in the HD version.
Nintendo was totally afraid of the player missing something in the Original.
It actually was! There was just a tick for it in the original, but it just never went used.
The reason games usually do this is to reduce lag since sometimes the engine can't handle that many characters on screen instantly, but in the case of skyward sword it only caused lag in like one place...so its still weird that they didn't have it
There was a fast forward in the original its just you had to wait 2 or 3 seconds before ot activates. I think in the remake Nintendo promotes the removal of those seconds
SSHD showed me how ambitious the Original was on the Wii, and how it feels much more at home on more powerful hardware.
Honestly though. I always hesitated to replay this game even though I remember loving it. Everything that makes it great is so much more apparent now. As someone who has defended Skyward Sword's motion controls for nearly a decade, the game feels so much better without them.
@@Joker8pie I still prefer Motion Controlls. But just having faster loading times does wonders to this game.
on god, it felt like a whole new game again which is so rare.
You would think a port that removes hours of “gameplay” would be bad. In this case it’s very good
Does reading mundane dialog and the same pick-up text for a rupee potentially dozens of times count as "gameplay" to you?
@@lethauntic why did you think i said it was a good thing it got removed
It actually ends up adding more hours of gameplay since it gives more reason to replay it
@@ilan_profile yea I might actually use master mode this time
@@lethauntic he put it in quotes
5:51
KingK. That zoom. You can’t just *DO* that.
I can.
I did.
@@KingKlonoa Good edit.
@@KingKlonoa funny edit
@@KingKlonoa amazing edit
@@KingKlonoa edit.
I always question people who complain about returning to the same areas multiple times. Each time your return you’re either exploring a new part of the area (sand ocean/fire sanctuary) or the area itself has radically changed to the point where it doesn’t even play the same (note collecting in the flooded forest or stealthing through the volcano).
And the silent realms are amazing and tense!
Without the weird and IMO painful motion controls
I haven't had a single problem with this game 1 beat the game 100% and am currently trying the same on hero mode (just got hylian shield)
This game went from meh, to a game I love
Yeah I never got that. It’s not like Ocarina of time didn’t do the same exact thing. Got to the tree temple get the mcguffin. Go to the volcano get the mcguffin. Go to the water temple get the mcguffin. Get the sword, repeat. Then do two temples in areas you haven’t seen and kill the boss.
@@geminisfl as a kid I was scared of and dreaded the silent realms. I loved the challenge but they were hard. Now I'm looking forward to the next one.
Silent realms are arguably lazier than tears of light in TP, they didn't act as a barrier to an unseen location but rather a way to fart around for 10 extra minutes pretending it's engaging gameplay. I didn't fail a single one of the silent realms, they're an actual cakewalk and serve little to no purpose. Additionally, having to fight the imprisoned 3 times was also excessive. Coupling recycled areas with recycled bosses was why the reception for PH and ST were so bad.
I'm thrilled that SS is finally getting the love it deserves. Drives me insane how criminally underrated it's been all this time.
I really find it funny how many people say this game is under rated when from my perspective i always heard that it was practically everyone's favorite zelda game, including people who don't play video games.
Criminally underrated? Pffft. Tale off the nostalgia blinders buckaroo. Skyward Sword was one of the most unnecessarily praised games
An *Actual* underrated game would be Chrono Cross or Sone other lesser known titke, casual
Ikr motion controls dropped this game
From an 8.5 out of 10 to a 5 out of 10 for me back in the day. This time playing through made me realise how great the game actually is
@@frogglen6350 did you watch any reviews of the game? Egoraptor's infamous rant trashing the game to shreds? I'd beg to differ
The dungeons really show how weak BOTW's dungeons were. Don't get me wrong, they did open world right but Skyward Sword's dungeons are simple divine. Proper 2 hour challenges in their own right. Better than the divine beasts which could be done in 20 mins.
Honestly I prefer BOTW dungeons, they are fast paced and not tedious like some dungeons in other Zelda games, they are way too easy however. But I like the idea of the dungeons being something else in the outside (Divine beasts).
Honestly, the time is only one gripe to be had with the BOTW dungeons. Their biggest setback in my opinion is the homogenous collection of settings. Setting, time, and as John C. said, difficulty is what makes them fall flat (with one (dlc two?) obvious exception, but even then that's mostly optional (in spirit of the game)).
The overworld is beyond any other Zelda though, and it's well over enough needed to balance out the lackluster dungeon. But I did miss dungeons when playing the game.
I wouldn't classify Breath of the wild shrines as dungeons.
@@z.a.y.n-5053 they mean divine beasts
Definitely not "2 hour challenges" but I agree.
Remove the silent realms? What?
Those parts were the most fun and scary and tense and when me and my siblings finally beat them it was amazing
Yeah it's always been weird to me people complain about those so often. As someone who criticized the original release of this game pretty harshly, those were easily the best parts of the game aside from some of the bosses.
Same. The Silent Realm reminded me of the sheer dread I felt when I had to sneak past a Phantom in PH and ST
@@Poefred Agreed. I'm thinking that those people just thought the silent realms were too hard or unfair. In my experience, they were exciting because I always knew there was an awesome item or something for me when I completed it.
Also, after playing through them repeatedly, you learn how to be quite comfortable with them and play it strategically. Knowing the landscape really well, using the beacon fruits strategically, and saving easy to grab tears for later are key to completing the silent realms most successfully and quickly. And replaying the game will help you learn the landscape really well.
did they make the silent realms easier in the switch port? i never played the original but i never failed any of the silent realms sections, i do agree that they are some of the most tense, exciting parts of the game though
yeah silent realms not a problem, dont take long either. it's a pretty fun conept and way better than the tears of light.
It's like Skyward Sword got placed next to a Timeshift Stone and then someone struck it.
I personally really liked the motion controls. Took a little getting used to, but it was a fun challenge.
Ive just gotten past the second dungeon. Motion controls ticked me off in teh first few hours but i feel like i've pretty much got them down. Still, I have a problem with my swings registering correctly and Lizalfos' kicking my ass since my swings are all over the place. So I'm not raving about the motion controls but they are passable for the most part. This is my first time playing too. We'll see how this ranks amongst my other zelda experiences at the end...
@@Ray03595 All you need to do is lightly flick it you don’t need to swing your whole arm.
I like em, even if I prefer buttons. I’ll turn on motion for the combat sometimes, and just turn them off for flying, swimming, the harp, etc
The motion controls are great until you have to start using the stab motion. That just never seems to read correctly for me, pressing the joysticks for stabs and shield parries feels so much more consistent (to me at least)
Options are always great though, I’d never advocate for the removal of motion controls I just like that people can choose the control scheme they prefer
@Craig Adams Those are also my main complaints, but I don't think any of that hampers the experience as much as others would say. My opinion obviously, but I think the game has a good habit of throwing new challenges at you, even if you are backtracking through the same areas.
Speedrunner here! Just to let everyone know how substantial instant text is, the previous world record for any% (no BiT because without a reset button that glitch is impossible and it saves like 4.5 hours) was 5 hours and 36 minutes. The current record in HD is 4 hours and 52 minutes.
Also, the amiibo saves a little less than 4 minutes in the any% run for those who are curious. It’s annoying.
Also another note: the sword tutorial was skippable in the original…don’t know why Nintendo claimed it was a new thing and wanted to inform you about that. They actually did this with a bunch of stuff, like claiming Fi triggers were reduced but all the footage showed that attempted to show the Fi text was gone were in places where there was no Fi text to begin with. As well as claiming the rupee text wouldn’t show up multiple times but the first time you get the text is literally the last time you see it even in the base game. Just kind of weird.
They did make Fi more optional they just didn’t show any actual examples of it in the trailers where they mention it. Very odd. But at least they did make the changes
@@notsocooldude7720 Well the point is they showed things as changed which were already in the original game. "Item pickups don't repeat every time you leave the game" *Shows a stamina fruit.* Things like that
@@deesh1124 Yea I’m aware. Strange choice
Hello Deesh :)
Literally 0 people care about you speedrunning this game, talk about a weird obsession.
Might sound wierd but I actually prefer the motion controls so Im glad they were still left in as a option, especially since I had trouble with button controls that were put in.
What sells the motion controll for me is, that you can use the right stick to turn the camera while you ALWAYS need to press ZL in combination for turning it when you use button controll. This was so annoying for me that I switched to motion controll completely.
Motion control is one of the best things about this game
It's just a nice, decent control scheme in the Switch version. And both control schemes are varied enough that I don't have issues with muscle memory. I tend to use Motion when playing in TV mode and button controls when playing in Handheld. I'd also just like to state that using the right Joystick to swing the sword is fun as shit.
I have a switch lite so I had to use button controls. It took a while to get comfortable with them but once I did I enjoyed it.
I've already played 22 hours got the master sword, I'm going to go into the thunderhead to go meet the giant whale thing and I love it. I miss this game so much
Haha that's exactly where I am right now
I'm currently on the 4th dungeon trying to get to the 1st flame rn.
I am on hero mode after 50+ hours of gameplay getting 100% on my original file. I feel accomplished
I currently just got the hylian shield from the thunder dragon.
To those of you complaining that the motion controls feel awkward, imagine how it feels to be left handed while playing this game.
im a leftie but it's not really hard to swing a remote with my right hand
@@Brandon-bc9vt I'm a lefty too and I even use a mouse in right hand. Problem is that Skyward Sword uses 1-1 sword controls and that just doesn't feel right to me. Light shakes would be fine but anything requiring ample dexterity is a no-go for my right hand.
yep had to completely retrain myself.
i had no problems
Oh....fuck
This man sounds like the guy that narrated the shrek is love shrek is life lol
Holy shit. K should read the script so we can compare it.
@@CommieApe The Krazy part is I think he really would do it for like a Tweet or IG post lol
JJ: Wait your serious?
King K: Yes.
you’re*
I was very pleasantly surprised with Skyward Sword HD. "Internet Wisdom (tm)" has said that the original is horrible for years. Turns out it's actually fantastic when obvious oversights are corrected. It's a very focused game - almost like a Super Zelda Galaxy, which now that the open BotW exists is totally fine. Motion controls are literally hit or miss, but the coolness factor cancels out the frustration for me. Also there's more DNA shared between SS and BotW than I'd expected in game feel, which is all-important to me.
I often wonder if some games will be more accepted once gamers get something closer to what they always wanted afterwards.
Now that DOOM's had its' glorious return to form, I'm suddenly seeing people more accepting of DOOM 3.
@@Mayeur000Donz Kinda like how Sonic Forces made appreciate Sonic 06 alot more.
@@Mayeur000Donz that's a good point! 3D World felt similarly re-evaluated after Odyssey came around.
@@Mayeur000Donz Doom 3 is a weird case since the version people are going back to is very a significantly different experience. Since Doom 3 is built around it's lighting system. And how BFG changes that changes the atmosphere and flow of the game. They can go into BFG edition as a regular shooter, which they couldn't in the original version.
@@Mayeur000Donz Doom Eternal was a step down imo. Literally took everything that people didn't want in doom from 2016 and cranked it to 11. Sure normies loved it but that's not saying much.
In defense of motion controls, I find it really immersive. It makes me feel like I AM Link going on the adventure. Swordplay also requires practice to understand how the joycons react to movement which makes me excited to keep on trying and get better
You know it's a quality remaster when your cat can rest easy on lap while playing.
This man said as refreshing as a glass of Baja blast as I was drinking Baja blast on my lunch break ❤️ much respect
You're telling me that the item info only appearing ONCE isn't something important to go over? Just say that about the game and I'm sold
One complaint I heard today was that lefties find the fake motion controls awkward, and there's no option to switch the joysticks.
i thought you meant people who were politically left for way too long lmfao
"there's no option to switch the joysticks" did you mean joy-cons?
@@wizardinggamer4536 libs aren't lefties tho they are centre-right
Idk what people are on about I love the silent realm quests
Fr i didnt know some people wanted the silent realms to be removed. Honestly that was a shocker! They're fucking fantastic, always keeping you on edge and begging for the timer to not run out and to be not murdered mercilessly by the guardians XD
It’s just repetitive but I enjoyed it
I also enjoyed them, fun challenge, relaxing music, and a beautiful atmosphere. The guardians add to it, my main complaint about twilight princesses twilight areas that used the same concept was it was too easy with no way to fail except dying which even then is easy to avoid but overall I loved the silent realms too
I was pretty surprised to see a King K video with this as the title
Same
As somebody who’s been a huge defender of Skyward Sword since it’s release, seeing a King K video with this title feels like a huge vindication.
Weird thing about the remake: it seems like ALL indoor dialogue has an echo filter now, even in tiny houses. Does that bother anyone else?
I noticed this while going to Pipit’s house especially. His mom’s voice echoes like hell
you know it's a Remaster and not a remake.
Here's a minor gripe I have that I haven't seen anyone else talk about. In the first 5 Zelda games as well as the 3DS & Wii U remasters, there were 2 options for targeting. Either press the button and it'll keep targeting the enemy until you press it again, or hold the button to target the enemy, and it stops targeting when you let go of the button. But Breath of the Wild took away the first option so now you can only hold to target, and that change is also in Skyward Sword HD so it's technically a removed feature in the HD version. It's not a huge deal, but it still bothers me. I actually used the press to target feature in older games, but in BOTW & SSHD I can't do that anymore, and I probably won't be able to in BOTW2 either.
funny thing is when i played skyward sword on my wii, the wiimote worked fine but my nunchuck broke
that's why I can't play skyward sword on wii as well as TP
Mine too , my nunchuck cable broke of too many shakes while playing galaxy and wii sports boxing
When I first played skyward sword My wiimote would shut off at random times and I would have to redo entire sections because my Wii turned off and the there was no save except for the statues and those weren’t everywhere so I will say I really love the auto save feature in the Hd version
I also have experience with boken nunchucks, several actually.
The remotes probably still works fine, though
The new button only controls definitely takes a decent amount of time to get used to but once you master it, it feels great and you find yourself breezing through combat and tearing down enemies. Once I got to the second dungeon, the controls felt great and smooth.
I loved the silent realm sections. There was so much tension and they were genuinely challenging. The music and visuals when you were discovered were just so fitting and made the experience heart pounding. They tested your knowledge of an area and if you screwed up you could be close to screwed in some spots. They could be challenging and you might actually fail, but they were never frustrating, if you failed it felt fair to me at least.
The only problems I still have with this remaster is just the price point and the locking of hero mode for a 10 year old game assuming no one wants to play hard mode right away. Nintendo has a really terrible treatment of difficulty modes with a supposedly for all ages demographic and aging fan base.
If I may ask, what do you believe the price should be?
60$ is just sooo much
@@jamesacosta2535 40 would be nice
@@jamesacosta2535 30 honestly. It’s a old game that performs worse than emulators and I doubt Nintendo would go lower than 40 but there is absolutely no reason it should be 60
@@jamesacosta2535 I personally think $60 is too much when you consider other old games that were brought to Switch. Pikmin 3 Deluxe added brand new story content and co-op mode. Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition has improved performance and all of the paid DLC content packed in. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe had all the paid DLC, a more fleshed out Battle Mode, faster loading, and better box art (don't @ me). Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition had a complete art overhaul, remastered music, added epilogue story content, and Expert Mode.
Compare any of these to Skyward Sword HD, which has better performance, a more streamlined experience, and...that's it. No added story content, no extra modes, no new music, nothing about it in general is new. It's the same exact game, just a bit more palatable. It doesn't match up to the standard.
I actually think the loft wing controls really well the motion controls- I'd simply let the controller lay flat on my hand and make small tilts to move and it felt very responsive
I really like your TH-cam channel. I will never stop giving you crap for your seemingly rushed Earthbound retrospective, but despite that I don’t find issues with any of your other work and often watch or listen to your videos more than once.
I can’t believe you put out a video with such a trash opinion, I used to have such high respect.
Baja Blast is not refreshing. Otherwise great video.
You got me with this one.
That take is Baja Blasphemous
Work at Taco Bell, can confirm.
I was wondering how controversial that opinion would be lmao
Had me in the first half not gonna lie
First things first, thanks for making my lunch more enjoyable. Perfect length too for it. Secondly, I agree with basically everything ya said here. I seriously see no reason to play the original anymore. This is a game I hold close as it really made me get into Zelda Lore. But I genuinely believe Nintendo listened and fixed everything that was necessary. Also if people have a problem with the price, they can certainly always pick it up second hand. The same could be said for the amiibo honestly, yanno, WAY later when hopefully people care less about buying it for crazy prices. Wanted to get one but I didn't wanna risk not being able to look myself in the eyes anymore. Would've loved that feature built in but while playing the game, but thankfully the amiibo feature is hardly on my mind while playing.
It's not particularly good lore for an origin story of one of the most beloved IPs of all time, but it's kind of... quaint that they tried, I guess.
People complain about the $60 price yet they never saw how bad the price of one LaserActive game is
I think it’s also important to say that it’s ok to not buy the game AND complain as that lets Nintendo know that this kind of behavior is unacceptable, and warns customers.
Mass complaining works as EA found out with Battlefront 2 where they actually changed course and everyone got a better game and service, and EA was, for a while, hesitant about adding in more predatory micro transactions in other games. All thanks to complaints from social media; people who bought the game and many who didn’t. Thankfully, only a few defended EA’s crappy behavior. Usually with tiresome “if you don’t like like it, then don’t buy it” phrase which usually means the person has no argument to begin with.
The criticisms about full price for a 10 year old remaster with minimal effort, compared to the standard market price of AAA remasters which have a lot more included, are entirely valid and deserved. And then there is the amiibo of course - pure greed as he video rightly says.
As a paying customer who is enjoying the game, I am also entitled to complain about my purchase.
I have no problem with others who don’t mind paying and defending Nintendo(their opinions are just as important as mine), although this does mean that Nintendo is more likely to raise prices in future if lots of people accept this and don’t complain.
@@makasete30 I mean, if they make something amazing like, say Miitopia 2, I'd give them my entire wallet
I also agree there is no reason to play the original version of Skyword Sword. Although to me personally, that was already the case prior to the release of the HD version.
I see King has evolved into the “pissed at business practices” stage of Nintendo fandom we all reach before just giving up cause we can’t help ourselves and my lack of buying Skyward sword and wario ware isn’t gonna get me a new starfy game anyway
….yeah ….yeah
It’s true. And everyone should realize that whatever you buy nowadays is a very similar compromise when it comes to supporting unsavory practices. Not saying that lets Nintendo off the hook. But you have to pick your battles and everyone has to make that choice themselves
@@TheQuestioner27 true. Like as an example you ever buy a banana or anything with it in the recipe in the US and you’ve rewarded the US government for slaughtering children to stop a union from forming so that workers were not paid slave labor. Banana could be good for your diet and it is genuinely funding people who have good legit jobs of course but it doesn’t remove that factor in general. Just like while Nintendo may deny it everyone of us is endorsing child labor with our phones and switches because of how cheap it is
By give up do you mean give in and buy them at full price? If so, I don't think you need to resort to that. You can use your well placed cynicism to be more savvy. I got my copy for ~£15 by buying it for £35 with preorder extras which I sold for £20 on eBay.
@@benmjt if you count selling it that makes it even easier. Get it from Walmart or whatever for 50, sell it to GameStop toward a switch OLED you may or may no buy for 45, use the money for the OLED or some other used game(s) that are cheaper.
You just played the game for 5 dollars in a glorified rental system
“You might have to recenter the gyro a little more often”… you mean all the time. Still how I would tell people to play the game today, though.
Yea, an unfortunate consequence of the switch’s lack of a sensor bar. I went back to play the Wii version just to compare, and I played for about an hour without ever having to recalibrate. On the switch version it feels like I have to hit Y to recalibrate the sword every minute or two
8:29 as I was watching this part, I was looking on Amazon and saw that someone made a skyward sword Zelda amiibo card for only 9 dollars.
Those are heroes right there.
What a fucking legend, that man deserves an award.
You can make it for way cheaper. I spent $15 and got 25 NFC chips that I could write any amiibo to.
Yes... you can actually get the complete set of Zelda Ambeeos for $15 (sorry😆)
Make sure to get the extra small set, too.
Theres the ones that are regular card size, but there's also a set that is only about a quarter that size.
Way more convenient.
They’re illegal though
Just buy NFC tags on amazon to make your own loftwing amiibo
The fact that you'd have to do that kinda sucks though, doesn't it?
@@delaneyelekes8660 no?...why?
@@delaneyelekes8660 You're at least not giving money to Nintendo for it.
@@aIkaIi Uh... Because it sucks that there's a quality of life feature that isn't in the base game?
I got an amiibo card so I can have the QoL feature. It was only around $8 including shipping. I'd still be willing to buy the amiibo at retail price but it's nowhere to be found.
Finally got a chance to see this. Great work as usual King!
"Spoilers for an almost 10 year old game by the way" -- b-but I came here to see what was improved because I never beat it originally because I wasn't having a good time. :(
R.I.P.
yeah :(
It also happened to me in the past. And guess what. Now I'm actually enjoying it. Now I see that the motion controls for this game were in fact a drawback to enjoy the experience for more time. These can be tiresome and even frustrating sometimes, but having the chance of turning them down is something more than welcome. You can play more time and now resume straight from where you were thanks to portability. Visually this edition is not having any improvement whatsoever, but HD plays an important role at making the art look at least "bearable" now. I mean, it's still cheesy but it's HD... And the other main drawback is the level design. If you're not a completionist and skip it right to the juicy parts (dungeons and bosses) you're definitely going to enjoy this. So yeah, it feels better. It's still not among the best games in the franchise, but if you can leave that out of your mind then I can recommend it to you. Just wait for a discount.
The idea that spoilers are dated is absurd.
@@JazGalaxy I agree! Expecting everyone to keep up with all media just because you happened to watch it is ridiculous. If something is publicly spoiled like a meme, that's one thing, but it just felt completely unnecessary here.
If Nintendo actually added in a few DLC dungeons with new items, I could look the other way on the $60 price tag.
Even something like the Cave of Shadows from Twilight Princess HD would have been nice.
@@jacobmonks3722 Wasn't that locked behind an amiibo?
@@newairnation6280 Yes. Pretty shitty.
@@newairnation6280 Didn't the Amiibo come with the game for $50 though?
@Zach Edwards It absolutely did, I have mine sitting on my shelf right now
It was after the Girahim fight that I decided to go back to motion controls. I just felt really handicapped trying to use the stick for the sword. Also it got really annoying after a while having to hold in L to move the camera.
Remove the silent realms? I don't know about you, but I love the silent realms! I think they're an awesome challenge that rewards you for getting familiar with the game areas.
I lost at it 11:26.
Having already played that part it was hilarious seeing Link falling in the cutscene.
These re-releases being 60 bucks is a crime, no matter how good they are
Exactly Nintendo needs to calm down on the prices but, of course they know we’re going to buy it for nostalgia
@@userllllllI They're rats, but they get away with it every time. Everybody buys them anyway and they are incentivized to do it again next time lol
Even if i was a big fan of Nintendo, i agree with you, 60 dollars/bucks, even Euro it's priced at 60, it's way too much expensive for what it is, i remember getting the original games brand new, yet were cheaper in terms of price, not in terms of quality.
I am a nostalgic by times, but even i, think they could have lowered the price of their ports, i do hate when they goes on a crusade against any emulators, TH-cam channels that share the soundtracks from their games, i also wish they could fix the joycon drift issues, from what i heard, they have lawsuits because of their refusal to fix the issue properly.
I remember when the remake of Bowser's inside story was blocked behind a paywall, and you had to wait for buying the game.
The retro-games are also locked behind the Nintendo Online and this is an obligation to have it in order to play some games.
The switch made me realize how i actually loved the previous consoles, the DS, 3DS, the Wii too who had an awesome library of games and it wasn't an obligation to have any pawall to buy them.
I am mainly on mobile to play games and discovered more games i have never heard of, like Sky Children Of Light which is made by the same people who made Journey, Flower and Flow, other games i could play without having an internet connection.
If Nintendo could fix their strategies, i would be interested in buying their products again. But as they don't want to listen to their customers, then i don't see the point of supporting them again.
Edit: Mario Run is also stuck behind a paywall, you need to pay to unlock new levels, Animal Crossing Pocket camp requires you to use your money to build things faster.
Another thing is, they discontinued the 3DS family, the Wii U and they are still updated..
People say, "oh but the online isn't that expensive", it doesn't look expensive, but they take more money than the amount they have shown, that happened to me, personally and i barely even used the online.
@@userllllllI YOU will buy it for nostalgia. Some people have the self respect not to shove money at Nintendo for slightly improved ports of over decade old games.
@@YourFeelingsSucks I’ve never had that problem with paying for online, pretty sure that’s a problem with the card you use
I’ve always had a soft spot for skyward sword. Everyone’s complaints for ss and tp about being linear, or heavy-handed are true, but they did feel inspired. Especially ss with the motion controls.
SSHD’s improvements are great, and are a sure welcome to anyone who might not like motion controls. However, as you went into on the last section, it’s the business practice and amiibo silliness that completely blemish the inspiration to me. I get so much joy from playing, reading, watching a work that is certainly birthed from passion. SSHD is not one of those things. Great game, terrible business :(
Love your videos. I appreciate that you lay out more than one side to a discussion or contrary opinions as well. Thanks.
You're content is amazing my man I really hope we get to see a skyrim retrospective one day. Either way your channel is rad.
I remember playing this game and wonder "when will the tutorial end and the actual game beging" and then found myself in the last boss fight. I just thought "oh" and shut it down and haven't played since.
Glad to hear: might pick this game up if it’s in the 30-40 range. But I can wait
Nintendo doesn't drop their big guns that low.
@@d_shuffles if we're talking great british pounds, then Skyward Sword will almost immediately be £40 in stores and remain at 50 directly from nintendo. I'm not sure about in America though. You also might find some pre-owned ones in game stores for about £37, cause I found that with Links Awakening recently.
@@aidangreen7596 I didnt even consider the currency! That makes sense now. Yea depends on retailer too, you might luck out and find it cheaper. Then theres also pre owned online yea!
@@d_shuffles Yup, retailers are almost always cheaper. Watch out for when it might go on sale as well, 'cause I managed to get Super Mario Maker 2 for about 33 pounds on the Eshop when it was originally 50.
Watching this makes me realize that Nintendo once again is showcasing an amazing game (thanking the game designers for that), coated with greed and other anti-consumer practices (blaming the higher-ups for that). I really wanna play this game, but refuse to reward them for these scummy practices. I’m hoping they’ll have a wake-up call one day, but for now I’ll abstain from buying. And I’m not judging anyone who did !! I hope you have a great time with the game. It honestly looks SO FUN!! But I hope we all can countinue to aknowledge nintendo’s issues. So we can expect more from them than overpriced legacy-games and bare minimum re-releases (and with that I mean, why couldn’t this have been in a colection?)
I wanted to buy the game as well; the reason I didn't buy it was the same reason I didn't buy the Wii version as well: no left-handed mode for the motion controls.
That’s why I buy used. I get to experience the game for less money, and don’t have to support things I don’t agree with
Yeah @Danish Boy you should definitely buy the game used. That gives zero money to Nintendo.
And I wouldn’t call it a “bare minimum” rerelease considering the meaningful changes outlined in this video. But it’s absolutely overpriced.
I respect you keeping to your principles. I personally think this port/remaster is pretty well done (the Amiibo thing I will never support, though).
@@matthewmuir8884 I actually never thought about that. So like are you just unable to play skyward sword at all? Can’t swap hands? Don’t even want to use buttons?
Thanks for making this! I've been loving this game.
thanks for making this video !! this game is my favorite in the series (i love the dungeons, the relationship with zelda, etc) and it makes me really happy to see people revisiting the game and giving it a second chance. im excited at the potential return to skyloft for botw 2 :)
I just wanna see the mogmas make a return appearance lol
i love this game, its my fav one of all time. loved the wii one too. the fact its hd? even better.
I loved Skyward Sword on the Wii, but the HD version is so good, I can never go back to the Wii version. See Nintendo, THIS is how you do a port of an old game. Not all stars, this.
Quiet eboy
Same here! :D
It isnt even HD lol
@@kazoorion7993 it is tho lol the 60 fps looks sexy
The duality of wanting to get this because of the improvements even though you have the original at hand but Nintendo as a company fucking hates you
buy it used(even if the price is pretty close)/ emulate it/ hack your switch and pirate it
It runs great on Ryujinx, the Switch emulator. Only problem I saw was some textures don't remove the transparency. but as far as performance, it runs at full speed for me, even at 4K.
yeah, honestly I feel no shame or qualms about pirating nintendo first party products. I incitivize it.
@@Torbulous And those issues will inevitably be ironed out sooner or later anyway.
@@YEs69th420 Yes you're right. They are pretty quick to iron out kinks. I'm sure that will get fixed very soon.
I'm so glad you posted this. I absolutely love this game, and with all of the improvements, man.... It's so good. On hero mode now, and I'm nowhere near irritated by tedium. It's just smooth gameplay. Button controls are fun, motion is fun, skipping text, skipping cutscenes, man, it's all exactly what this game needed.
Love your videos. Keep up the good work!
I buy bootleg Amiibo cards. Normally, I wouldn’t do such a thing. I always try to purchase things fair and square. However, the Amiibo is not a fair and square deal so I’ve allowed myself to be a filthy pirate on this one. Obviously, Nintendo doesn’t really care because they seem more concerned about the buzz their scalped products cause.
Ive never understood Nintendo’s deal with amiibos. Ultimately it’s the scalpers making all the money. If they actually made enough of them to supply the demand I’m pretty sure they would make their money back. This has been an issue I’ve had with Nintendo for years now as it’s not just with amiibos.
@@DaGhostToastRoast - I think they see Amiibo as advertisements instead of being a product to sell because when they immediately run out it always makes headlines and looks like a hot product to those who don’t follow this stuff.
@@phoenixdowner Right and in reality the majority of people buying it are not fans but scalpers who are good at being the first to preorder everything before everyone else. People who actually want the amiibos to use miss out. I used to collect them and Damn I’ve spent way too much
@@DaGhostToastRoast - Well, Nintendo is notorious for shutting down hackers who alter or copy their products but they aren’t lifting a finger to do anything about making your own Amiibo from NFC tags, which are like 10¢ each. I’d say get some NFC tags and an old Android phone with NFC and make your own - or buy some from eBay from a seller who makes them into neat looking cards.
As neat of a novelty item amiibo are, I can't justify this being nothing but scalper fodder. I plan to go on the creative path with the NFC chips. Hell there's already a lot of people on etsy doing that with animal crossing villagers, and they make cooler looking cards than the ones nintendo released.
I can’t get used to the stick so I’m using motion. It never bothered me really.
Splatoon players be like
I prefer the stick myself.
I don't even play games anymore but I look forward to every video from you.
Great video, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who struggled with the button sword controls on the first Ghirahim fight lol.
Your experience with Girahim mirrors mine exactly, lol.
I died several times useing analog, switched to motion and killed him without losing a single heart. The GAME plays well with analog, the fights...not so much.
On the wii version since I've played it an ungodly amount of times, i got pretty good at it. And since i own a switch lite i had to play with buttons, and he mopped the floor with me the first time cuz i was fumbling my button presses. So i decided to leave, practice on bokoblins and remember to stay calm, and on my second attempt i absolutely thrashed him more efficiently than i can on wii
I had to do a double take when I saw that title because I genually assumed you wouldn't like it.
Don't get me wrong, this is good to know. I'm glad the improvements are more substantial than we assumed and they make Skyward Sword feel a lot less tedious to play.
Jumping from the last video on this game to this one is crazy in how your voice has deepened.
I never had issues with the motion controls, but I know many people did. I am very happy that now more people can see what I saw in Skyward Sword.
The left-handed still can't though; there's no left-handed mode for the motion controls.
i will die on this hill but this game was honestly at the end of bad marketing
if they announced all the QoL changes at that direct i personally think more people would’ve given a chance rather than just going “lol port for 60 bucks”
Yeah it was really bizarre that they didn't show all the changes off at E3, just to make a video not even a month later showing off the changes. It makes you wonder what was the point of showing it at E3 at all.
I still would not have given it a chance, simply because they did not do anything about the barrier to entry that was the reason I didn't get the Wii version: the lack of a left-handed mode for the motion controls. I want to be able to swing the master sword with my dominant hand so that it would actually be precise and fun to do so, rather than awkward and just plain not fun.
Well homie Nintendo is famous for limiting options. Gotta play their way.
>Empty Sky world.
>Repeated backtracking over and over again.
>The Imprisoned
QoL improvements aside, you can’t fix the core problems in the game.
@@Robert_D_Mercer I'm aware. But the lack of a left-handed mode is still jarring because
a) Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks both had left-handed modes for the touchscreen controls
b) this is a series where, up until Skyward Sword, the protagonist was a lefty.
Skyward Sword HD is a great remaster! So many nice quality of life changes and the graphical upscale and performance boost is fantastic! Why is it not $30!
40 if we’re being generous, it just sucks that Nintendo is so greedy
$60 is indeed asking for too much. But for me, the real deal-breaker is the exact same thing that made the Wii version a deal-breaker for me: the lack of a left-handed mode for the motion controls. I might've actually gotten the game if it at least had that, despite the $60 price tag, as at least I would've been actually able to play the game.
I thought this would be a Super Mario 3D All Stars type port where they just dump a ROM on to a cartridge and upscale it, but fortunately I was wrong. This is the definitive version of Skyward Sword.
Unfortunately, there is one thing it has in common with the 3D All-Stars version of Mario Galaxy: there's no left-handed mode for the motion controls. Does Nintendo still live in the age where left-handed people were forced to use their right hands, or are they just allergic to the idea of accessibility options?
Never played skyward sword. Never had a wii sadly and my folks didn't enjoy games outside of wiisport or wiiplay. I'm glad they released it for the switch however so I finally have a chance to play it. Always been curious on it even though channels like this and others have given me the story of it. No spoilers warning needed, I'm a huge LOZ fan without being the one playing it. On my way now to go grab my copy and I'm excited to see what the first story in the "timeline" has to offer. Wish me luck. And thanks big time to you KingK for your videos brother. You have given me plenty of insight into many games especially in the LOZ saga and your videos (while being opinions) are phenomenal. Best wishes to you and your family.🤙
my only gripe with button controls is the “hold L to look around”. my brain and hands has been using the right stick exclusively for looking, but everytime I try and look the sword comes out. I would just like the option to change these around, so to enable the sword I have to push L. In motion control mode this isn’t a problem, and I honestly prefer it.
THIS. I was wondering the exact same thing. Some people say it makes sense cause "how would you move the sword?" Nooooo it feels so weird to move the camera just when holding L. I don't get why there is no such option. Been using motion controls because of this.
@@knufyeinundzwanzig2004 its pretty stupid ngl. Motion controls are held back by this giant factor
@@knufyeinundzwanzig2004 I mean it’s kinda just like the n64 zeldas
Lol this is basically the sm64 changed camera movement direction issue again
Yeah i just started using zl to adjust the camera and only used the free camera if i wanted to check my surroundings
Man, you're the first person I've seen who actually learned to enjoy the button controls. They're SO much better and the game is infinitely more fun with the additional pacing and visual upgrades. The story is still one of the absolute best, along with some of the best character development in any Zelda game, and the gameplay is so smooth and satisfying. The constant use of puzzles to traverse and progress is also so well done and now that the controls are much better I've been able to blast through the first half of the game in about 10 hours. Loving everything about it so far, love the retrospectives, and most of all I love that somebody with a large platform feels the exact same way about the game that I do.
"best character development"
Also the worst because Fi will forever be an abomination compared to Midna, Tatl, KORL, Spirit Tracks Zelda, etc...
KingK i doubt you’d see this comment but i want to emphasize how much i love your videos. Your analysis, takes and such are always so beautifully written and put together. Your persona golden video really filled my heart especially since i JUST beat0 that game about 1 month ago. Thank you for the hard work you put into these beautifully created videos, have a great day, and sending peace and love your way always.
Glad you said the right analogue stick starts making sense later on. I played the opening with a Pro controller and have been considering swapping to motion controls for my next session because the sword just felt so off and unresponsive on the stick.
Just finished this game and, having never beat the original, it was a masterpiece. Sure, some of the revists were superfluous and that escort mission sucked, but everything else? Amazing. BotW was great, but this swansong to the Wii era and to classic 3D Zelda games is on another level. It felt like such an innocent and pure representation of everything I love about Nintendo. Amazing game.
I'm also frustrated with the forced motion on the loftwing and beetle. I still use it for the sword gameplay but man flying that loftwing makes my carpal tunnel worse
I dunno if this helps, but maybe try using your whole arm instead if you wanna still use motion. The joycons are lighter than the Wiimote and the loftwing speeds up if you're pointing it down by even keeping your arm lowered. Use the charges to make the loftwing fly higher, and then keep your arm lowered to have him speed up by descending.
That's only if you're not just using buttons for the loftwing.
the loftwing controls really suck. The beetle for me is easy to control tho. Very hit or miss on the motion controls for this game. The swordplay espescially the percentage of times it'll go the way i want is pretty close to 50/50 now, which is poor. The way combat is set up keeps this pretty far away from my favorite zeldas list.
Ngl that clip at the end with link falling then shifting to the imprisoned climbing cutscene, i completely lost it 😆 seeing link just miss falling on his head is hilarious
Thank you for not spoiling a bunch of stuff in the video! I want to pick this up as I've never played it before. I agree with you though, full price AND an Amiibo for the use of a feature that should be build in is a bit much. With the rarity of the Amiibo people are definitely going to go the NFC route.
Never played the original, and can’t quite believe some of these improvements weren’t in the original lmao
Absolutely great review! I already thought you last review on the game was good and honest, and I'm glad you can call Nintendo out on their problems without demonizing the game itself to do so! Wish more people could do both like that lmao
As a Zelda fan who never got to play skyward sword on the wii, this was a blast to play and catch up on it
@KingK, this was a great review, as always. And I really liked everything you had to say. I'm using the motion controls and they're working fine. I did turn them off for the pumpkin throwing minigame and probably should have turned them off for the tadtones section but didn't. Oh well. But, I think you just need to update your joycon to prevent disconnection. I had to do that. (I actually forgot that you could/needed to periodically.) That's why I'm mentioning it here.
60fps alone is a solid upgrade, but Fi not popping out nearly as often and being able to fly/swim with the left stick elevate it to another level. All the other QOL improvements are just additional perks.
That said, playing SS HD after having played BotW endlessly is am interesting experience. It really puts a magnifying glass SS's core issues - but at the same time, it also places one on its greatest strengths. In particular, it emphasizes hw important exploration and freedom are to the series, but also how important structured level design is.
Here's to hoping we can get the best of those games merged in BotW 2.
You could actually skip getting the cat in the Wii version too.
you said literally everything I was thinking during my first playthrough!
Skyward Sword has amazing Dungeons, Music, Characters, and Lore. I didn’t like the controls at first but after I got used to them the game actually became really fun and I actually thought the flying mechanics weren’t all that bad. Discovering treasure in this game is a lot of fun and some of the side quests and games are really fun and memorable as well like bamboo island, Fun Fun Island, and Pumpkin landing. The relationship between Link and Zelda is extremely close and meaningful which makes the story more intriguing and it arguably has the best version of Zelda.
My old 2017 joycons still works perfectly in my case
Guess I’m really lucky lol
I'm in a similar boat, kind of. My personal joy cons NEVER drifted. Only once I let my kids used them did they start to drift.(after years of my using them) I have my launch switch lite and have zero issues, but the kids NEVER touch it. My pro controller started to drift now, again once I let my son use it lol. Luckily that new trick with the piece of paper inside the controller seems to be a legit fix. I own 11 joycons and only ONE PAIR doesn't drift! I'm looking forward to cracking them open and using the little paper trick to make em good as new again hehe.
Same, to be fair though I use my pro controller about 90% of the time, but I still feel very lucky.
You are!
Yeah, QA forgot to dip them in water before packing.
Same, I still have my original joycons from when the system launched. Still no issues with either lol it almost makes me weary to buy the newer ones cause I feel like I got too lucky with the first
This is exactly my experience! The motion sword is great, the loftwing is awful, and losing camera control in button mode is very frustrating. Why no option to mix?!
You know if you hold L you can move the camera???
@@frankgrimes7388 I mean I agree but it only takes like 30mins to get used to
This is a very interesting and I might put down money for this re-release, when price drop comes, because of all my time thanks to a certain Hanson. I never thought that have much of an opinion about it general but thanks to you KingK, I'll just buckle down and learn To Love Skyward Sword. Also 5:51. WHY?!
I played this hd the moment it came out when I pre ordered it
also that disconnect thing with the joycons happened to me so I got so bad that I could not move or walk because of the constant disconnecting and drift so I got new controllers that were €70 like is it just me or were they much cheaper they were the blue and neon yellow ones
Some people wanted the silent realms removed?? Haha, I’m glad they didn’t do that. They were one of the things in this game I enjoyed the most.
Yeah I very much disliked the silent realms. The game already recycled the same uninteresting environments 2 or more times, they didn't need a silent realm for every area. Cool idea, really tedious execution in my opinion.
Yeah, maybe we should have an option to just immediately skip to the credits too. "Yay, I beat the game!" I swear, some people are such lazy crybabies unwilling to walk uphill for any reason.
@@timthetoolpoolberg4913 Not sure anyone's arguing that. Most complaints about the silent realms come from the overt repetition of the same environments. None of them have any unique features or difficulty progression so they evidently slapped them into the game as easy padding.
@@creativebeetle Well, I understand the problem. Recycled environments as you say initially don’t seem very interesting. But I like the realms for that very reason. Having spent time in the areas before, and then getting to test my knowledge of how to traverse them in a stressful test was exciting.
@@creativebeetle That's fair, but that's Skyward Sword. Better off addressing that issue by simply not using the same idea in future titles though if the market says they don't like it.
This review put my thoughts into words. It’s not one sided for “Nintendo killed my family and burned my house down” or “Nintendo is the second coming of Christ” you acknowledged the good and the bad equally, great stuff!
I always say "at least they aren't as bad as EA or activision/blizzard". Like Nintendo is definitely more money hungry than they used to be, but they aren't as atrocious when it comes to the others (at least with their games, and am not commenting on their stranglehold on their ip's and such)
@@VonSnuggles1412 fr, Nintendo are greedy bastards but they don’t crunch their developers and would rather delay the games instead, they deserve more credit for that
Nintendo isn’t even greedy though
I went ahead and finally bought some conductive foam for my Joy-Cons to play through this (I struggled mightily with stick controls) and it stopped my controllers from disconnecting. It sucks that the Joy Cons have so many problems.
I have nothing to say other then great video. Always the highest quality!
Now compare it one month after to the other port…
I do hope this game gets patched to have more options for the motion controls. Cause I 100% agree with you on wanting motion controls for the sword and aiming with the bow, but not everything else
I just want the addition of a left-handed mode for the motion controls; it would be as easy as just remapping each form of motion control to the opposite joy-con (and both joy-cons have the exact same motion-control hardware, so it's more than possible) and then mirroring either Link or the game to make Link left-handed to match. It would take far less time to implement and test than the button controls undoubtedly took.
@@matthewmuir8884 you are so right. Though I think when it comes to accessibility options, Japanese companies are a bit behind the times. A lot of games made in Japan have the bare minimum when it comes to options
The motion control aiming on the original SS was atrocious.
I am so glad you have respects for this remake
The joycon disconnection issue can be solved by pluging the rail flex better. It tends to stop working after some drops