When i was young we had a Howard 100 muckspreader on our old super major it struggled driving it because the PTO was too high geared whereas our neighbours Nuffield 460 drove it no bother
Yeh someone said the top sprocket on the spreader was changeable for different tractors to make it better. Not sure how big the selection of sprockets was and if they came with the spreader or had to be purchased seperately?
Hi Lisa. Some 50 years ago I drove my father's Super Major working a Howard rotary spreader of a smaller diameter than you have there. It could manage it OK. But for the spreader similar to your size, we used a Ford 5000. So when the Major began to die at the end as the chains got greedy, I wasn't surprised.
Yes we have a 5000 on the farm and i used thst at the start of the year. It did cope a lot better than the major. I think a lot of people forget the Howard 100 is a lot smaller than the Frazer we have.
@Lisa_Turner The other issue with Diesel Majors of that era was that the standard 540 RPM PTO speed occurred at around 1200 RPM engine speed which is very low. There was a Raised PTO unit that could be fitted that physically raised the position of the PTO shaft and changed the Engine/PTO gearing ratio slightly so that 540 on the PTO was at higher engine revs. It also provide a disconnect between it's PTO output shaft and the original tractor PTO shaft so that the hydraulics could be run on the tractor while the PTO shaft of an implement would not turn if not required. Such units are impossible to find now.
@@dellhell8842 the were raterd for 1600 rpm morebinline with prak hp and 1200 rpm is more in lone with peak torque. Raised pto units are still available but people want stupid money and collectors seem to be willing to pay it
Spreading solid manure is so beneful to the soil. It brings organic matter, minerals and bacterial life so important for the soil itself and the growing crop. Most of all, it was spreaded on live crop. Congrats. Votre Ford en boucane un coup Madame !
@@Lisa_Turner Hi again. I also hope you know that artificial fertilizers are from a mineral source. Witch is exactly the same source crops are using to grow. The bacterias are transforming organic matter to mineral for plants. BUT organic fertilizers like manure (solid as possible) are way more efficient to soil. No doubt. As lime is to rise pH level.
@@Lisa_Turner Hi again Miss Turner. Don't worry. I studied soil technology 40 years ago. I worked for a fertilizer company for 13 years. So I know a bit of what's going on when manure or mineral fertilizers are added to soil. Today's farming is contrary of what it should be. Pesticides are really bad in food chain. Using heavy machinerie on soil fields is another one. Everything has it's limit. The best farms in the world are respectful of the resource. I'm sure you are. Cheers.
Hi Lisa , when the muckspreader chains get longer poor ole Bessie is on her knees , she wouldnt be long getting hot , you may get a six cylinder and shoehorn it into it
Hi john. I am not keen on the length of a 6 pot major. To be fair she does not run hot on the gague but a higher hp 4 pot is more the asthetics i like.
Howard Machinery built several different sizes of rotor spreader starting from 100 up to the largest contractor 250 which were only sold to contractors and odd large farms.
@@michaellynskey7124that is interesting to know thst they only sold the bigger kit to contractors. I thought a sale was a sale but the farmer needs the tractor capable of powing it too
No they wasn't just for bigger farms & Contractor, The largest Howard was a 250 contractor for anyone to purchase, Sorry if I didn't explain it properly.
To my knowledge those Major's spun the PTO at a higher speed than the standard 540 putting more pressure on the engine. You are also working with a tractor that is now more than 60 years old. They weren't great at opening the load as they hadn't the torque. Power output would be if not below it about 45 horse power. If you traveled a good distance from the farmyard to the field you certainly could be in trouble opening the load. I recall it happening to my late father with a borrowed Major in the late '70's when filling with a Zetor 4511 on the loader. He had to go back to the farmyard and put the Zetor on the spreader as it had ground drive from the rear wheels of the tractor to the pto to open the load. After that he'd turn the load briefly before leaving the yard with the Major, wrapping the chains around the shaft making it easier to open. The comment about changing the upper sprocket is correct, Howard printed an advisory on the front guard (covering the driving chain) to use the correct sprocket for your tractor!! Slowing down the shaft working the chains. Memories from a time in my life long gone!! Stick to the tractor with the greater power.
Hi Pat. Thank you for your comment. I don't know if frazer offer different size sprockets like Howard did. Also as this is an old spreader i don't know if these are still available? The rotor shaft can be turned to wrap the chains like you say if there is a long way to travel. On this occasion we were loading in the same field. The pto speed is very low in the engine rev range and probably at the highest torque and not highest horse power? The frazer is a 4½ foot diameter barrel compared to the howard 100 typically used at a 3 foot back in the day 😀
@Lisa_Turner Yes you are correct, higher pto speed at lower engine revs leading to lower torque. I think Ford addressed this issue in the Super Major. Use the Major for smaller tasks and get more out of it. Enjoy what you're doing.
Yeh he is a naughty boy. On the plus side it is ny on impossible to engage the dog clutch without pressing the clutch. Trust mechanical dog clutches a lot nore than ipto packs
I see two things, one is you need a raised pto, the other is your barrel spreader is a little too big for your power major, sloppy manure takes more power to spread than farmyard manure anyway, as you found out when it was getting low.
Hi Glen. Yes the spreader is a bit big. It is ment for bigger tractors and we wanted to see how the major compared to the Ford 5000 i used on it earlier in the year. I thought it did quite well being a lot smaller.
The fordson has serious fuel issues hence the black smoke, possibly and judging by the revving the fuel pump is too advanced and needs retarding a bit.
Weights now and front flail eventually. At the moment it lets us take two implements to the field to save coming back to the yard to change as we swap them in the field. Saves a fair bit of time tbh.
No sense no feeling is what they say. I have no problem with mechanical pto engagement. It is the ipto packs that i am not keen on when the engine is running.
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Brought back some memories of our gang contract muck spreading with ten ford 5000 & Howard 6 ton rota spreaders in Norfolk 🇬🇧🇮🇪.
Any pics?
When i was young we had a Howard 100 muckspreader on our old super major it struggled driving it because the PTO was too high geared whereas our neighbours Nuffield 460 drove it no bother
Yeh someone said the top sprocket on the spreader was changeable for different tractors to make it better. Not sure how big the selection of sprockets was and if they came with the spreader or had to be purchased seperately?
Hi Lisa. Some 50 years ago I drove my father's Super Major working a Howard rotary spreader of a smaller diameter than you have there. It could manage it OK. But for the spreader similar to your size, we used a Ford 5000. So when the Major began to die at the end as the chains got greedy, I wasn't surprised.
Yes we have a 5000 on the farm and i used thst at the start of the year. It did cope a lot better than the major. I think a lot of people forget the Howard 100 is a lot smaller than the Frazer we have.
@@Lisa_Turner The Howard we used were the biggest 250 Contractor, With heavily modified barrels & hoods,
@Lisa_Turner The other issue with Diesel Majors of that era was that the standard 540 RPM PTO speed occurred at around 1200 RPM engine speed which is very low. There was a Raised PTO unit that could be fitted that physically raised the position of the PTO shaft and changed the Engine/PTO gearing ratio slightly so that 540 on the PTO was at higher engine revs. It also provide a disconnect between it's PTO output shaft and the original tractor PTO shaft so that the hydraulics could be run on the tractor while the PTO shaft of an implement would not turn if not required. Such units are impossible to find now.
@@michaellynskey7124What modifications were made?
@@dellhell8842 the were raterd for 1600 rpm morebinline with prak hp and 1200 rpm is more in lone with peak torque. Raised pto units are still available but people want stupid money and collectors seem to be willing to pay it
Spreading solid manure is so beneful to the soil. It brings organic matter, minerals and bacterial life so important for the soil itself and the growing crop. Most of all, it was spreaded on live crop. Congrats. Votre Ford en boucane un coup Madame !
Absolutely it does the land the world of good and better than artificial fertilisers.
@@Lisa_Turner Hi again. I also hope you know that artificial fertilizers are from a mineral source. Witch is exactly the same source crops are using to grow. The bacterias are transforming organic matter to mineral for plants. BUT organic fertilizers like manure (solid as possible) are way more efficient to soil. No doubt. As lime is to rise pH level.
@@lucgagnon5241 i am not upto date with modern fertilizer in that way.
@@Lisa_Turner Hi again Miss Turner. Don't worry. I studied soil technology 40 years ago. I worked for a fertilizer company for 13 years. So I know a bit of what's going on when manure or mineral fertilizers are added to soil. Today's farming is contrary of what it should be. Pesticides are really bad in food chain. Using heavy machinerie on soil fields is another one. Everything has it's limit. The best farms in the world are respectful of the resource. I'm sure you are. Cheers.
Around here that stuff is liquefied and then sprayed around the fields a week or so before seeding. Lovely time of year that.
Do you mean slurry spreading as it is called in the Uk
Hi Lisa, I like the way the Massey 3075 handled the muck wagon, the 4-wheel drive seems to give it more stability. All the best, Ken
Hi Ken. Yes the massey is a lot safer on the hilss. 4wd and over 1000kg heavier to be in charge of the spreader too
Hi Lisa , when the muckspreader chains get longer poor ole Bessie is on her knees , she wouldnt be long getting hot , you may get a six cylinder and shoehorn it into it
Hi john. I am not keen on the length of a 6 pot major. To be fair she does not run hot on the gague but a higher hp 4 pot is more the asthetics i like.
If your spreader is the same as a Howard rota spreader, you can change the sprockets at the front to alter the gearing, making it easier to drive
I don't know if Frazer do different sprockets?
Howard Machinery built several different sizes of rotor spreader starting from 100 up to the largest contractor 250 which were only sold to contractors and odd large farms.
@@michaellynskey7124that is interesting to know thst they only sold the bigger kit to contractors. I thought a sale was a sale but the farmer needs the tractor capable of powing it too
No they wasn't just for bigger farms & Contractor, The largest Howard was a 250 contractor for anyone to purchase, Sorry if I didn't explain it properly.
To my knowledge those Major's spun the PTO at a higher speed than the standard 540 putting more pressure on the engine. You are also working with a tractor that is now more than 60 years old. They weren't great at opening the load as they hadn't the torque. Power output would be if not below it about 45 horse power. If you traveled a good distance from the farmyard to the field you certainly could be in trouble opening the load. I recall it happening to my late father with a borrowed Major in the late '70's when filling with a Zetor 4511 on the loader. He had to go back to the farmyard and put the Zetor on the spreader as it had ground drive from the rear wheels of the tractor to the pto to open the load. After that he'd turn the load briefly before leaving the yard with the Major, wrapping the chains around the shaft making it easier to open. The comment about changing the upper sprocket is correct, Howard printed an advisory on the front guard (covering the driving chain) to use the correct sprocket for your tractor!! Slowing down the shaft working the chains. Memories from a time in my life long gone!!
Stick to the tractor with the greater power.
Hi Pat. Thank you for your comment. I don't know if frazer offer different size sprockets like Howard did. Also as this is an old spreader i don't know if these are still available? The rotor shaft can be turned to wrap the chains like you say if there is a long way to travel. On this occasion we were loading in the same field. The pto speed is very low in the engine rev range and probably at the highest torque and not highest horse power? The frazer is a 4½ foot diameter barrel compared to the howard 100 typically used at a 3 foot back in the day 😀
@Lisa_Turner Yes you are correct, higher pto speed at lower engine revs leading to lower torque. I think Ford addressed this issue in the Super Major. Use the Major for smaller tasks and get more out of it. Enjoy what you're doing.
change the sprocket on the spreader , major will run it a lot easier ! used to spread some steep ground with a 150 and a major
I don't know if the sprockets for the frazer are still available. Then how do i know what ratio i need?
Ohh.. the Massey obviously.😊
Yes i have to admit the massey is very nice to pilot.
Hi there! Could I have a closer look at your pickup hitch arrangement on your major? What kind is it or is it a home made one? Thanks
It is a genuine ford factory fitment puh. It is featured a bit in older videos.
Did I just see him put PTO shaft on with engine still running.
Yeh he is a naughty boy. On the plus side it is ny on impossible to engage the dog clutch without pressing the clutch. Trust mechanical dog clutches a lot nore than ipto packs
Shit happens!
I see two things, one is you need a raised pto, the other is your barrel spreader is a little too big for your power major, sloppy manure takes more power to spread than farmyard manure anyway, as you found out when it was getting low.
Hi Glen. Yes the spreader is a bit big. It is ment for bigger tractors and we wanted to see how the major compared to the Ford 5000 i used on it earlier in the year. I thought it did quite well being a lot smaller.
Definitely Ford 5000/7000 nothing else comes close, Sorry to disappoint you🇬🇧🇮🇪.
Be better if they were 4wd with the hills round here
the massey
She's a babe to drive. So stable on a slope
The fordson has serious fuel issues hence the black smoke, possibly and judging by the revving the fuel pump is too advanced and needs retarding a bit.
I will check that. Thank you 😀
What ya going to be using the front arms for?
Weights now and front flail eventually. At the moment it lets us take two implements to the field to save coming back to the yard to change as we swap them in the field. Saves a fair bit of time tbh.
@@Lisa_Turner it looks class, Fair play. ✌️
@@tommaheady5230 i tried to make it look as original as possible. Blending modern technology, sympathetically with the old.
@@Lisa_Turner that sounds poetic, ever try singing 😉
0:39 No sense of danger!
No sense no feeling is what they say. I have no problem with mechanical pto engagement. It is the ipto packs that i am not keen on when the engine is running.
Tongue stud
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fordson not power !
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