Seems like it was the first officer starting to chit chat about not being sure what she wants to do with her life . A selfie leads to a crash basically .
This tragedy was very sad, living in upstate NY an hour away in Rochester this weather is the usual during winter months with very nasty windchill and lake effect snow from Lake Ontario. Icing is notorious for flying in this area and should ALWAYS be highly considered especially at night when temps drop significantly and winds pick up. I remember waking up early for work and see this on the 6am news and the weather was awful the following day also.
C'mon people......quit complaining about old videos. It's not like airplanes are crashing every week, so that new videos can be made. Be thankful that planes don't crash frequently. You never know who might be on that plane. It could be you!
yea but their are like 20 seasons.... why are we seeing the same videos over and over again? im subbed to different channels that have shown episodes as this one their is no way i have seen all videos its weird...
@@flamingkitsune2792 they are a monetized channel. Like all channel's, they will do whatever they can to make a dime. Even if they are regurgitating old stuff.
They posted this 8 months ago as a 2-parter. I've been complaining to them (not TH-cam, my mistake) for months about their duplicate posts (there are MANY). Apparently if a small number of viewers / subscribers complain to TH-cam, they will take action against the channel.
If you have paramount plus they have all 17 seasons except for season 1, as the Smithsonian Channel produces this series, and SC is part of Paramount plus. Its the American version with a different narrator, this is the UK version.
@@_TonyZ With all due respect I've never seen this particular video as for your issue with them there is a much more simpler solution . Unsubscribe/leave the page . Nobody is really interested in hearing people whine like children who didn't get the toy they wanted .
Can’t believe a couple pilots will fly cross country for a job that pays nothing, not only that but that won’t help you with a place to rest or sleep while waiting to FLY/MAKE them money!
Colgan WAS one of the Absolute Worst commuter airlines to work for (I believe they finally shut down…or were shut down)…most of the others weren’t much better but Colgan was particularly bad…and the “Captain”, even if he Was awake, was, by all records, a substandard pilot
@@edvaira6891"Captain" Marvin Renslow flunked his competency checks 6 times but yet still promoted him to Captain and it was discovered that he lied on his job application.😮
It seems that the airlines' economic model and our society's expectation of and demand for such low cost travel is not sustainable. I find it telling that there is no mention of this crash's effects on the carrier's/shareholder's business model. The focus on pilot fatigue and training, while important, is only a part of the larger systemic challenge.
If I remember correctly, Colgan as a company collapsed in 2012, due to the financial liability caused by FAA fines, lawsuits etc. They experienced three crashes in the ten years before collapse, resulting in 75 deaths, counting this crash. Remember, Colgan was a small regional carrier with a bottom line that was maybe a couple million in revenue annually,
16:11 hahaha, they didn’t check bc she was too like, freaked out by seeing ice… Lesson: don’t let 12-year-olds be co-pilots 🤷🏻♀️ Edit: $16,000/year?!?! Even back then that’s barely minimum wage… who else wd apply but teenagers?!? Ya’ get what ya’ pay for. SO crazy that people are so bloody greedy, especially at the top. Wow.
The cause of the plane crash of Continental Connection flight 3407 was when the control column started to shake and the plane had ice on the wings then the plane stalled like 2 times and then it nosedives down toward the Ground and it crashed into a house killing all passengers including the 2 pilots and the flight Attendants and one on the Ground!
I don't understand the comments about reposting a past episode. Isn't it better than having so many plane crashes and deaths that they can't keep up with them? 🤷♀️
Sad reality, there were eight incidents and crashes just yesterday (July 25, 2022) so there are that many crashes they can't keep up. The original Canadian program "Mayday" has run for at least 22 seasons and 200+ episodes and they are way behind in telling even the major ones.
I remember this one, one of the female passengers was on her way to Buffalo for a speaking engagement about airplane safety; her husband was on one of the 4 planes that crashed on 9/11.
@JeffTheCanuck3 Beverly Eckert, widow of Sean Eckert (d Sep 11, 2001, on one of the 4 hijacked airliners) was co-chair of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee. Correction to my previous post on this, Ms Eckert was on her way to Buffalo to celebrate what would have been her husband's 58th birthday and award a scholarship to a graduating high school student at Canisius High School. I can't say about freemasons walking on the moon, never checked to see if any of the Apollo astronauts were freemasons, but I'd say there is a good chance that at least one was a mason.
Ok. So why do hotels cost so much? I heard that in Japan, they have hotels that are a tiny box with a good-sized bed in it, and nothing else. Much cheaper than a typical hotel/motel. Not suitable for families, but great for professionals that travel a lot (not limited to pilots).
do you want them to go to their production company and say ‘hey guys we need to make more episodes because the people who watch them for free on youtube instead of paying for cable are mad at us for reuplaoding the same episodes every now and then?’
yes Flip phones were very prevalent in 2009. that was 4 years after the Motorola Razr, and everyone was copying the form factor. I had a Sanyo Katana Flip phone back in 07.
@ultrajd I don't understand your point? Feature Phones like the sidekick, weren't dominant. sidekick in particular was a niche phone that gained footing with teens. the most popular pre-smartphone, were the Nokia, Blackberry, and Razr-v3 (flip), and of course the iPhone
@ultrajd And? BlackBerries were introduced in 2002. they were FEATURE phone. Most people had basic bar or flip phones until SMARTPHONES became popular. I remember the selection of phones at MetroPCS in 2009. and there were many Flips.
Because contrary to popular belief, not every fire department KNOWS what houses have gas line access. Here in Vegas, for example, our gas lines are stupidly designed: one side of a street has them, the other side doesn't; then you'll have cases where one house on a block will have it but the others near it won't. I'll give another example. My house doesn't have access to a gas line, but the house to my left *does*. (Wish I had access to gas, would reduce my electrical bill by quite a bit)
This one is extra sad because it was absolutely in their hands. They got sidetracked by mindless chatter and it killed them, along with all their passengers. However the root cause is greed on part of the airline. They were paying that woman less than $16,000 a year - that is shameful and disgusting.
That it led to is mandatory 1500 hours before a pilot can be hired at a commercial airline. It has contributed to the current pilot shortage which leds to flight cancellations. Btw these two pilots had more than the minimum flight hours so that requirement would not have prevented this. Why does the government have to mandate that pilots rest? These two pilots made the wrong decision and it cost lives. Sure we can blame the airlines (they should pay more, that would lead to higher ticket prices, more congested flights and people driving instead of flying which is much more dangerous) there are serious trade offs.
That works if your trip Is planned in advance, but that can't always be the case. I also had to stop watching these videos prior to a trip that my husband and I had planned earlier this year. But shortly after returning, we had to book a last minute flight due to a family emergency. So there's not always the option to prepare for a flight by avoiding these videos (other than to stop watching them altogether). I wish you a good flight and safe travels.
@@KristinCortezMy flight is planned in advanced, so I'll have the time to stop watching them. Thank you for your well wishes, safe travels for you too.
@flaming kitsune unless the speed you are talking about is smoked, you may not check your speed as often as you should, but you check it atlest every 10 minutes. if you find, you have no business having a license. I suspect after enough tickets that will be the case.
It's about time I start giving a dislike for these repackaged/retitled episodes. Waste of time. There are probably tons of crash investigations because aircraft pilots are within the top 10 riskiest jobs. Those episodes are likely still at a premium elsewhere.
I have no idea how to fly a plane but just watching these videos I know when the plane stalls that you push the nose down instead of pulling the nose up... So regardless of how tired the pilot was he didn't know that? Good Lord I'm like through flying.😱🤯🧐🙄😬😳🥺😖😤☠🤔🤬
Yeah, that is troubling. Who knows why a pilot would do this. It may have been due to panic, or being tired. Come to think of it, the female pilot had to dead head a long distance for this flight, was tired, and pulled up on the control column. Maybe the Capt did it.
The sterile cockpit rule was violated. Even I .as a non-professional. know that pushing down instead of pulling up is the way to recover from a stall. In terms of pilot qualifications. experience, working conditions, and training, regional airlines should be held to the same standards as federal airlines.
Are you able to work out what caused the aircraft to plummet?
I think it was a mixture of a lot of ice and wind shear causing an extreme decrease in airspeed during approach.
Seems like it was the first officer starting to chit chat about not being sure what she wants to do with her life .
A selfie leads to a crash basically .
@@danieljakubovic lol yes agreed
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ less inspirational quotes , more de icing brahh
Excessive reliance upon technology, as opposed to horse and cart or bicycle.
I like when they show the actually photos of the people involved. It makes it much for real and impactful, imo
The fact that people are complaining about tired old plane crash videos speaks more to how far aviation safety has come in the past two decades.
I was kind of thinking the same thing...😳
I'm sorry, 16,000 a year?! That's below minimum wage. That's WILD. That seems low even in 2009.
RIP Mrs Eckhart. A TRUE hero.
This tragedy was very sad, living in upstate NY an hour away in Rochester this weather is the usual during winter months with very nasty windchill and lake effect snow from Lake Ontario. Icing is notorious for flying in this area and should ALWAYS be highly considered especially at night when temps drop significantly and winds pick up. I remember waking up early for work and see this on the 6am news and the weather was awful the following day also.
C'mon people......quit complaining about old videos. It's not like airplanes are crashing every week, so that new videos can be made.
Be thankful that planes don't crash frequently. You never know who might be on that plane. It could be you!
yea but their are like 20 seasons.... why are we seeing the same videos over and over again? im subbed to different channels that have shown episodes as this one their is no way i have seen all videos its weird...
@@flamingkitsune2792 they are a monetized channel. Like all channel's, they will do whatever they can to make a dime. Even if they are regurgitating old stuff.
It's so sad that the first officer was getting paid so little compared to the captain
Time for some new videos, this is the 10th time around for this one!!
They posted this 8 months ago as a 2-parter. I've been complaining to them (not TH-cam, my mistake) for months about their duplicate posts (there are MANY).
Apparently if a small number of viewers / subscribers complain to TH-cam, they will take action against the channel.
I’ve never seen this one. Thought I’ve seen them all.
You know I keep saying that but I keep watching em still lol I dunno
If you have paramount plus they have all 17 seasons except for season 1, as the Smithsonian Channel produces this series, and SC is part of Paramount plus. Its the American version with a different narrator, this is the UK version.
@@_TonyZ With all due respect I've never seen this particular video as for your issue with them there is a much more simpler solution . Unsubscribe/leave the page . Nobody is really interested in hearing people whine like children who didn't get the toy they wanted .
Can’t believe a couple pilots will fly cross country for a job that pays nothing, not only that but that won’t help you with a place to rest or sleep while waiting to FLY/MAKE them money!
Colgan WAS one of the Absolute Worst commuter airlines to work for (I believe they finally shut down…or were shut down)…most of the others weren’t much better but Colgan was particularly bad…and the “Captain”, even if he Was awake, was, by all records, a substandard pilot
These pilot’s and all pilot’s deserve much better than they receive
@@edvaira6891 are you serious how’s even permitted to fly and the first officer also acted unprofessional she panicked instead of remaining calm
@@edvaira6891"Captain" Marvin Renslow flunked his competency checks 6 times but yet still promoted him to Captain and it was discovered that he lied on his job application.😮
I'm having a serious case of Deja Vu. I seem to get that a lot watching this channel. Hmm?
no joke.!!!
My dad gets it when I watch Mayday while on a plane!
You'd think they only had a few episodes, huh? But fortunately I haven't seen this one until now.
This channel is posting episodes it already posted. I'm unsubing, that's a violation against terms of service.
@@kylieshaye6562 you can report it and see
If you cannot pay your employees a living wage you can't run a company. Period. 16.000$ as a first Officer is absolutely insane, even in 2009.
Very good job fellows!! Congratulations.
RIP Mrs Eckhart. A TRUE hero.
An incredible investigation which ultimately determined the causal factors and led to positive change.
It seems that the airlines' economic model and our society's expectation of and demand for such low cost travel is not sustainable. I find it telling that there is no mention of this crash's effects on the carrier's/shareholder's business model. The focus on pilot fatigue and training, while important, is only a part of the larger systemic challenge.
If I remember correctly, Colgan as a company collapsed in 2012, due to the financial liability caused by FAA fines, lawsuits etc. They experienced three crashes in the ten years before collapse, resulting in 75 deaths, counting this crash. Remember, Colgan was a small regional carrier with a bottom line that was maybe a couple million in revenue annually,
This is echoed in American health care right now.
16:11 hahaha, they didn’t check bc she was too like, freaked out by seeing ice…
Lesson: don’t let 12-year-olds be co-pilots 🤷🏻♀️
Edit: $16,000/year?!?! Even back then that’s barely minimum wage… who else wd apply but teenagers?!?
Ya’ get what ya’ pay for. SO crazy that people are so bloody greedy, especially at the top. Wow.
OMG stop reposting this same episode and making it sound like we finally have a new one!
Take it easy!
Great episode
Wow turn the volume down on all the ads. !!!
Thank you for uploading
Could you please do a video of Pacific Southwest Airlines flight 182?
This was the last major aviation accident to occur in the United States
Why am I seeing the same stories on different channels?🤷♂️😂
Because this show was made by discovery channel.
10 seconds in, see the problem. 😶👍
Yeah it's called the cockpit not the vagina pit for a reason. This was just the aerospace gods reminding us that women have no place flying airplanes.
Why fly at night? Most crashes are at night. Visibility is poor at night. Very dangerous to fly at night.
people got places to be
The cause of the plane crash of Continental Connection flight 3407 was when the control column started to shake and the plane had ice on the wings then the plane stalled like 2 times and then it nosedives down toward the Ground and it crashed into a house killing all passengers including the 2 pilots and the flight Attendants and one on the Ground!
You left out one thing. Pilotd were DEAD TIRED to properly react to prevent crash
@@patriciaramsey5294 oh ok yes you're Right I forgot to add that one more thing!
@@patriciaramsey5294 They were only dead tired because the airline didn't provide them proper living conditions.
I don't understand the comments about reposting a past episode. Isn't it better than having so many plane crashes and deaths that they can't keep up with them? 🤷♀️
There are still a lot of ones that still have yet to be covered. No one wants more to occur
Sad reality, there were eight incidents and crashes just yesterday (July 25, 2022) so there are that many crashes they can't keep up. The original Canadian program "Mayday" has run for at least 22 seasons and 200+ episodes and they are way behind in telling even the major ones.
Are they just out of videos by now? I feel like we've seen this one already.
I remember this one, one of the female passengers was on her way to Buffalo for a speaking engagement about airplane safety; her husband was on one of the 4 planes that crashed on 9/11.
@JeffTheCanuck3 Beverly Eckert, widow of Sean Eckert (d Sep 11, 2001, on one of the 4 hijacked airliners) was co-chair of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee. Correction to my previous post on this, Ms Eckert was on her way to Buffalo to celebrate what would have been her husband's 58th birthday and award a scholarship to a graduating high school student at Canisius High School. I can't say about freemasons walking on the moon, never checked to see if any of the Apollo astronauts were freemasons, but I'd say there is a good chance that at least one was a mason.
@@georgewnewman3201 I can answer that last question, Buzz Aldrin was one!
38:08 everything except more pay 💰
Ok. So why do hotels cost so much? I heard that in Japan, they have hotels that are a tiny box with a good-sized bed in it, and nothing else. Much cheaper than a typical hotel/motel. Not suitable for families, but great for professionals that travel a lot (not limited to pilots).
I’m tired of the re-uploads. We’ve watched the same videos over and over.
I guess we need more plane crashes to keep you happy....
do you want them to go to their production company and say ‘hey guys we need to make more episodes because the people who watch them for free on youtube instead of paying for cable are mad at us for reuplaoding the same episodes every now and then?’
@@heynyquildriver Well said.
A flip phone in 09?
Blame for this accident rest solely with the airline.
yes Flip phones were very prevalent in 2009. that was 4 years after the Motorola Razr, and everyone was copying the form factor. I had a Sanyo Katana Flip phone back in 07.
@@kewlztertc5386 In 09 I already had a Sidekick.
@ultrajd I don't understand your point? Feature Phones like the sidekick, weren't dominant. sidekick in particular was a niche phone that gained footing with teens.
the most popular pre-smartphone, were the Nokia, Blackberry, and Razr-v3 (flip), and of course the iPhone
@ultrajd And? BlackBerries were introduced in 2002.
they were FEATURE phone.
Most people had basic bar or flip phones until SMARTPHONES became popular.
I remember the selection of phones at MetroPCS in 2009. and there were many Flips.
@@kewlztertc5386 Not making a point. Just commenting.
How can you not know to turn the gas off to a burning house
Because contrary to popular belief, not every fire department KNOWS what houses have gas line access. Here in Vegas, for example, our gas lines are stupidly designed: one side of a street has them, the other side doesn't; then you'll have cases where one house on a block will have it but the others near it won't. I'll give another example. My house doesn't have access to a gas line, but the house to my left *does*. (Wish I had access to gas, would reduce my electrical bill by quite a bit)
I love this series
The widow of the man killed in the house ended up marrying a widower, whose wife Joan Diver was murdered by Buffalo serial killer Altemio Sanchez.
This one is extra sad because it was absolutely in their hands. They got sidetracked by mindless chatter and it killed them, along with all their passengers. However the root cause is greed on part of the airline. They were paying that woman less than $16,000 a year - that is shameful and disgusting.
That it led to is mandatory 1500 hours before a pilot can be hired at a commercial airline. It has contributed to the current pilot shortage which leds to flight cancellations. Btw these two pilots had more than the minimum flight hours so that requirement would not have prevented this. Why does the government have to mandate that pilots rest? These two pilots made the wrong decision and it cost lives. Sure we can blame the airlines (they should pay more, that would lead to higher ticket prices, more congested flights and people driving instead of flying which is much more dangerous) there are serious trade offs.
I plan on taking a flight soon, I better stop watching these videos, otherwise, I might not get on my flight, lol.
That works if your trip Is planned in advance, but that can't always be the case. I also had to stop watching these videos prior to a trip that my husband and I had planned earlier this year. But shortly after returning, we had to book a last minute flight due to a family emergency. So there's not always the option to prepare for a flight by avoiding these videos (other than to stop watching them altogether). I wish you a good flight and safe travels.
@@KristinCortezMy flight is planned in advanced, so I'll have the time to stop watching them. Thank you for your well wishes, safe travels for you too.
Rerun
isn't the basics of flying a plane, Altitude, Speed, and Pitch?
it's like driving a car, and not regularly checking the speedometer.
who does that?
me when im enjoying the speed on a highway
@flaming kitsune unless the speed you are talking about is smoked, you may not check your speed as often as you should, but you check it atlest every 10 minutes. if you find, you have no business having a license. I suspect after enough tickets that will be the case.
It's about time I start giving a dislike for these repackaged/retitled episodes. Waste of time. There are probably tons of crash investigations because aircraft pilots are within the top 10 riskiest jobs. Those episodes are likely still at a premium elsewhere.
I have no idea how to fly a plane but just watching these videos I know when the plane stalls that you push the nose down instead of pulling the nose up...
So regardless of how tired the pilot was he didn't know that? Good Lord I'm like through flying.😱🤯🧐🙄😬😳🥺😖😤☠🤔🤬
Yeah, that is troubling. Who knows why a pilot would do this. It may have been due to panic, or being tired. Come to think of it, the female pilot had to dead head a long distance for this flight, was tired, and pulled up on the control column. Maybe the Capt did it.
It's a sawsawe not a chopeshawe
Never saw this before. Good episode, but really? the pilots forgot how to fly.
You seriously have no newer videos?🤦🏼♂️
Yeah cause there aren’t new plane crashes every week, you should be grateful
I'll take a boat
The voice of the actress here for the copilot sounds like somebody's 15 yo kid sister. Doesn't sound right, but maybe it was.
The sterile cockpit rule was violated. Even I .as a non-professional. know that pushing down instead of pulling up is the way to recover from a stall. In terms of pilot qualifications. experience, working conditions, and training, regional airlines should be held to the same standards as federal airlines.
Wait you want new content regarding plane crashes? what does that say about YOU!!!!?
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