A few things from an owner: The stock tires have to go, it looks like he's still on the stock michelins. They wear great, mine is at 8k in four months/25% left...... but just aren't enough traction for the power output this bike makes--even stock. I've broke traction at 90 in sixth. The stock shocks have got to go. This bike really should have 13+ shocks and an 18" rear wheel instead of the stock 17. I love the stock look, but guys are going to jack the rear up for practicality [necessity] anyway. I've bottomed out and dropped the bike. Luckily it was minimal, nothing a new exhaust and a little powdercoat won't fix. This setup is great--the fairing's ugly but function trumps form here. Despite the 'thug' SOA trend these bikes can pull serious miles in relative comfort while still maintaining the connection to machine. You can haul a whole hell of a lot of gear in the bags, the brakes and suspension are beyond adequate, you have two-up capability without the huge tour pack, and the amount of power this bike makes (!)--cruising is easy over 80. And it gets about 38mpg to boot. Oh hey just a note--I've ran the stock air cleaner with the screen over it at 80 for about eight hours in a rain storm--no trouble with it fouling. How's that for beta testing HD?
Scott Kohs I'll be buying this bike in about a week. you said the shocks we're not that great, would it be an issue with my wife riding on the back. Hopefully not
Bobby Beatty they're great shocks, you would be perfectly happy with the ride quality, however height is not where it needs to be re the performance level of this bike. my peg feelers are...gone. I couldn't recommend lifter blocks enough, I've seen guys turn around lowering blocks for a quick fix. I would say if you don't bottom out a softail you won't have any issues.
Scott Kohs I own a sportbike, the wife and i do alot of riding, just wanted to get you're opion. would this bike be good stock with a passenger. thanks for the reply
In a word, no. I would strongly recommend the street glide for the value that package offers. The dyna platform: swingarm mount passenger pegs. Pain in the ass is alleviated by standing on the pegs. Eventually, that pain will no longer be tolerable, usually after about an hour if you don't have a sissybar--regardless of the shocks supplied. The touring platform, while heavier, is a more rigid frame and the footpegs are frame mounted. Coupled with the fact that stock the street/road glide and road king all have better lean angles on the right at 32 deg. (29.5 on the dyna), and the new milwaukee eight motor, you really can't go wrong in that dept. Check out HD's "compare bikes" feature and look to performance to see what I'm getting at.
I've got the 117 turning 118 HP 137 TQ and to be honest, this bike still scares me. I've been riding 40 years but never felt this kind fo torque. Setting the cruise to 70ish I had to brake hard once. When clear I hit resume and the bike damn near snatched the handle bars out of my hands. I put the Saddleman Dominator so I can have removable 2 up. Once I get the larger rear (probably going to a 200) and new wheels I'll have it painted. It;s a slow process after dumping that much cash into the bike and motor lol
I love how you are so honest in your reviews, and very knowledgeable, I wish I was living around you guys, I am from New Jersey and it’s very hard to find people that really care about there customers, and this bike sounds unbelievable
Installed 117 kit on my 2013 CVO Roadking , along with T-man 625 SP cams, S&S High performance lifters, Revolution performance Auto-tune ECM, Cosmetic head gasket, along with Fullsac performance DX exhaust. Its a beast 125+ HP. Can run this baby up to 6400RPM !! Comes on strong at 2000 rpm. Nothing can touch it ! the M8 SE 117 can even come close !
117 build up with SE Pro MVA Heads: $5000 +/- (Incl. Install Labor) or, 120ST or 120R crate motor. Both incl. heads: $6500 +/- (Incl. Install Labor) and, sell the 110SE: $3500. (do the math) No substitute for cubic inches, baby! (You can put the $2G into suspension upgrades
Wow...that Dyna rips! The sound is amazing.. as well. Love the sound it makes! Crazy ....again, that's coming form a crouch rocket guy. Awesome set up! I appreciate fine things on two wheels regardless of the make. If i were to buy a cruiser I would definitely buy a Harley! still got my eye on the 2016/17 Softail Slim S ..just beautiful!
I've liked those bikes since they have came out. That one is set up nicely. I usually don't like T bars but those looks good since they aren't above the fairing. I just wish I could lane split/filter in VA. Traffic is crazy up here and has gotten real congested lately.
my personal dyna low is a 103 ci with 48 mm carb, heavy breather, 577 zipper cams, high comp heads, front and rear premium shocks. Its a radical beast wound really tight. cant imagine that motor on first year big twin. mine is 638 lbs and feels like the road is greased
excellent. thanks for posting. i'm getting close to pulling the trigger on a new bike and have narrowed it down to a low rider s or a road king. i'll do 90% in-town riding and commuting, with occasional touring and weekenders. although these low riders are killer, i think the road king is ultimately more versatile and i'm leaning that way.
I have almost the same set up- 2017 lowrider S, 117" kit, Bassani pipe and different intake. doing the kraus front end and Olhins rears over the winter. I love it, but it is a bike you want to ride hard. Its very choppy at slow speeds due to the torque. When I ride a 103" Harley I realize how much more power it has.
while there my be more powerful bikes out there , i think some folks just dont get the whole muscle bike idea, same as muscle cars ! just pure grunt with an amazing sound and also a great lifestyle. Nice ride dude....
Holy smoke that is one very wild ride for experienced riders only. I think a stage 3 Low Rider S or that coast cruiser orange/black with fairing would be my ultimate bike.
He may not be aware but the chrome jiffy stand should've been black from the factory. My wife has a Low Rider S as well and hers came chrome. Harley did a warranty exchange on it.
Tell ur boy to put the super brace on that front fork if u want it to really handle the power better.....just traded my lowrider S for 115 anni street glide special... so happy with that new beautiful legend blue denim machine
I did it differently. I added a stage 5, 110 tire shredder kit to my 2015, 103 Breakout. I wanted more so I added a Dry shot NOS Setup for 10 -50 more RWHP. I can now get over 160 RWHP!
Matt, Awesome, I know... I have essentially the same setup with 2 Bros exhaust and Memphis Shades Gauntlet. Sport bike rider my entire life.. 85 Kaw 1000r, ZX9, Hon929, 954, ZX-14 and more... just to say I enjoy riding now more than ever. Went to Lo Rider to get the closest thing to sport bike and for my lady to ride w/me. Interchange 2up seat with QD backrest w/rack for my lady comfort yet back to single seat and quick release on the Gauntlet and that sweet 117ci for the badassitude. Truly a great all round bike now! Never, ever, thought I'd be so happy not hittng 12,000 rpm+!
Every auto maker ever makes upgrades to your vehicle... anybody asking that question at 7:00 only deserves the back of the hand, no explanation needed.
Awesome video and your comments on HD and how the bike rides is bang on the money!!! It ain't a cheap upgrade but worth every penny, I've no regrets at all in doing it to my S !!! 😎
I've been thinking about doing this to my 2016 Road Glide Ultra CVO. I've done the basics to it, exhaust and dyno tune. The bike runs good. I ride in the 4 corners of the southwest so I'm always at altitude. I just don't want to drop the cash to get this done right and not really see a big change for the better.
Gearing up to do the 117 on my FXDLS and in the process replace my Two Bros Comp S with a Thunderheader but I'm seeing people saying the Thunderheader will choke the 117. Thoughts?
Well done Matt. I just wanted to offer some observations after watching the video. I noticed that someone said why doesn't Harley Davidson offer this engine in the bike to start with and Harley Davidson practices "money grab" tactics. When you go out an purchase a car, most if not all models have different option packages. The base model has the least options with the most basic engine. A middle option package that offers more options as the base but not as many as the premium package. With each upgrade package, the price increases exponentially. The same holds true with just about any consumer based product. Harley Davidson does the same. Why is it a "money grab" when they are doing the same as everyone else. This allows people the opportunity to still have the opportunity to enter the world of Harley Davidson in an affordable way. If everything was premium, consumers would be relegated to purchase used or nothing at all. Also, used bikes allow people to purchase a model that they want but couldn't offered if only new was available. Matt also made a valid point that it would not be prudent to put some one on a bike they can't handle. Over time, with experience, you can move up the product line. Another point I would like is that some people perceive Harley Davidson's as big, underpowered, slugs. To this point I would say that in Harley Davidson's long and storied history, Harley Davidson has been involved in all types of racing. From board racing in the twenties and thirties, to flat track, drag racing, and yes superbikes. When Harley Davidson entered superbike racing with the VR 1000,in just a few years that were earning top three finishes and many thought the VR1000 was the best designed super bike of its day. Harley Davidson was competing against other brands with much more experience. Harley Davidson has proven they can design and produce anything they set their mind to and to the highest degree.
I have a question I got a same 117 dana S .got problem after I rode about 2 hours then I stuck in traffic engine got too hot that shut off its self .could not start until it cool down .any suggest ????
hoang dao it's hard to say. These engines need air passing over them. Keep the bike moving. It should be able to handle a decent amount of heat though.
The s model has fly by wire throttle. If you crank the throttle up in the opposite direction of acceleration it shuts off one of the cylinders to help out in traffic jams.
bought 2017 lowrider s in aus awesome bike can see why people upsize motor the 110 is perfect for this bike has the torque spot on for street riding . Have heard people talk about heavy clutch pull ,my 2003 ,1200 sportster isn`t much lighter ,couldn`t get bassani roadrage in time so shop recommended to try vance/hines hi output 2into1 short sounds pretty brutul the more I ride it the more I love it .love your work
Holy hell, the sound of that bike is absolutely wicked! The torque on this machine must be nothing short of frightening. Love it. One question: what is the heat like on this machine? Does it absolute roast you in stop and go traffic on a warm day? 117ci seems like A LOT of motor to air cool! Whatever the case, I'll take one ;) Thanks for highlighting this beastly sled Matt. Love these videos you're doing on these interesting builds! Very cool.
I think the frame is stiff enough for that 117 engine...the trouble is in the front and rear floating mounts but..that is why True-Track or Sputhe are for.
i love that bike so much really want one bad it is for sure gonna be my next bike of course i will be buying used hopefully i can find one with the 117ci kit used in the next year or 2... how would u say that bike would do set up that way for long distance i currently have a yamaha roadstar 107ci i plan on keeping it as my touring bike i have it bagged out but i live in texas and 30 miles from the nearest town so i do alot of highway and long distance riding on a daily
redneck1000 it will work. The conely fairing does pretty good to keep a lot of the wind off. The suspension is good. Touring chassis bikes are better though. For long distance
hi mate you recommended this kit for a first time Harley buyer looking at the lowrider s just not sure if I should spend the extra money on the kit straight up
zeallistic I am from motocross and enduro back ground i have ridden my mates sports bikes before been riding motorcycles since I was six 25 yrs old now
jimmyP it sounds like you would be a good candidate for it. You have great experience. If you're traveling at higher speeds on the open highway a lot then I would say get it.
Matt you mention this build isn't for the casual rider. What do you recommend as far as a stage kit that a casual rider could go to and still benefit from? Maybe install SE-255 Cams and call it good?
minibullet91 the V-Rod will probably be just a little ahead until about 110mph, where the v-rod will keep pulling like a freight train til 145mph+ and leave the dyna behind. I put 40k+ miles on the v-rod, you can get a used one on Craig's for $7k easy. it's the best value for American v-twin muscle by far. all that being said, i would rather have the dyna, because it sounds world's better, it has much better fuel range, it handles better and is just a better overall touring bike. my 2 cents..
I drag my Harley's as much as I can, drug quite a few v rods asses. I have never ridden one , but from my experience they are dogs. I know riders mean everything, just haven't found one that rides there v rod worth a fuck! I'd take that dyna any day.
Can't stop watching your videos! Well done job! But please make a breakout review and test ride! Your opinion is important for us! Like who's want it too!)
I want to take my 2015 CVO Street Glide 110 to a 117 and its been suggested that i use the 594C cams. does anyone have anything to say about those cams? Trying to get it right the first time.
I'm looking at buying this bike and I'm already thinking about my build.... those thunderheaders sound amazing.... do you think earplugs are necessary?
No, The wind Noise will be more deafening than the exhaust Noise. Get a full face Helmet if you're worried. Ear plugs maybe for a long trip. I didn't feel like I needed them
Real awesome noise.cool bike. I'm about to purchase a Dyna. I'm really confused and having hard months thinking about how to finally choose the one for me. I'm thinking about the super glide custom and the street Bob. At beginning I bought an iron 883. Then wanted to swap it for a 48, but then was thinking to go for Dyna's.. please help me.need all the help I can get.
I have the same bike with this same 117 kit and the thunder header. I wonder if you have any suggestions to improve the power even more. it's amazing now, but I might think the compression could be raised if anyone makes a piston yet. also wondered about heads and cams. I prefer screaming eagle to aftermarket. the brakes and shocks work so well, I think it could handle more power , even though as you say it's very brutal now. have same exhaust.
ive been wanting this kit for 2 years, it sounds though like it maybe wont be good for my ride style. im more of a "cruise" rider, do some back road destination rides and town shit. would a stage 3 cam be a better choice?
Question: I have a 2017 FXDLS with a 110ci. The clutch lever feels really difficult with a lot of resistance. It's annoying/painful when I'm stuck in traffic. Is this normal for this bike??? And if so, is there anything I can do to the bike that would not negatively effect the rest of the bike or compromise something? Great video!!!
The 110 has a larger clutch spring that unfortunately makes the clutch pull harder. Yea, it's a hand work out in heavy traffic. With the extra power you need that heavy duty clutch though. There maybe a kit out there that reduces clutch effort but I'm not aware of anything specific.
Mine 103 has 108 hp 116 tq I have the screaming eagle clutch spring & it pulls easy You should feel the pro clutch in my shovelhead it will give you popeye forearms 😆
Dale Humphrey my twin cam has stock 103 flat top pistons Cnc ported stock heads by zippers performance decked .018 , .030 head gaskets , 10.2 compression Andrews 57 h cams, S&S stealth air cleaner , cobra power port duals with screaming eagle street cannon slips. Did the cams & removed & replaced heads myself so it was very affordable
I have a softail slim s if I were to put the 117 kit on my harley will my engine run hotter on idol also what do you think about the super trapp dennis kirk exhaust?
Whenever I hear a twin cam fire up .. I get chills. And I just had the 96 on my FB. I have a 107 M8 now and it’s so not the same ground shaking loudness. Time for some 4.5” slips ons .. I hear the khrome werks and SVT bone shakers will get me close to thst twin cam goodness.. Anyone have either of these ?
They're lying. I have a 117 Stage IV Screamin Eagle kit on mine, with a Vance and Hines pro pipe. It makes 112HP and 125 ft/lb. The 117 Stage IV Screamin Eagle kit only makes 9.5:1 compression, at best, and the 259E cams are very mild. I was considering the 10.5:1 T-Man Performance Wiseco pistons and Total Seal rings, and a set of cams from Comp. However, it would really need the oil pump and cam plate upgrades, and that still leaves the questionable crankshaft when you get above 135HP. So I'm looking at the SE120R crate engine.
Hi There. Love all your vid's Matt!!...What an awesome bike the 117" is... my question though. What is the expected longevity of the stock Harley drive belt, with the addition of the extra power..?? I would hate a rubber band to break on a ride somewhere.. Matt from Oz
Matt Rudland thank you and good question. I would expect to be slightly less maybe. Again it's all about the rider. If you're a guy who is doing wheelies and burn outs it's gonna break a lot quicker. It's a factor of how much and quick you regularly crack the throttle aggressively.
Thanks for a super quick reply, Matt. Gave up the Wheelies [Mono's] when I gave up the 1000cc Jap bikes. But I do like the twisties, which is why I am leaning towards a 110 Dyna S as apposed to a Breakout. I am just concerned that a belt replacement is a fairly major service cost, since the whole primary and clutch has to come apart + the swing arm has to be removed for the replacement. Not something I want to be doing every 12 months. May have to look at a drive chain replacement option! Does harley offer this as an option?Matt from Oz.
I know old did but besides going to 117 what cam and compression weakest you 110 for high speed long distance? Torque is great looking to add up mid to high rpm and up the red line.
G'day from Aus Matt - love your videos. I have ordered a Low Rider S - trying to decide on 117 or standard 110. I just wanted to get your opinion on if the throttle is twitchy with the upgrade compared to standard and how the 117 would be in the wet? I found on a test ride in the wet that the standard bike can easily brake traction even at 50mph. Maybe a bigger and more sticky rear tyre??????
You have a knack for always put out exactly what I want to see . Top notch videos brother keep them coming . My question for you is does Harley have a 120 kit for the 110 ? If not do you think that might be something in the works . I'm pretty sure the company knows you have a lot of customer feed back . So tell them if you build it hey will come
There is a 120R and a 120St engine. You have to buy the entire engine. There is no upgrade kit. It's like 6k to buy one. Thank you for the positive feed back. Will do.
Hey Matt. Dig the vids and competent info. I've had that 120 upgrade in mind. Do you know if there are conflicts to installing one on a 2017 Low Rider S in California? If so, any workarounds possible? Maybe reg out-of-state? Thanks man!
does anybody know what stage the dyna low rider s is considered coming out of the box? like stage 1, 2,3 or stage 4? I just wondered considering the dyna low rider s comes with the 110 stock. anybody know?
Taylor Eldridge pistons and cylinders without heads Harley Davidson considers a stage 3. So if you're comparing a normal low rider to a low rider S. The FXDLS has the stage 3 benefits. Of course the stage 3 build for a FXDLS would take it to a 117 which is what is shown here.
Taylor Eldridge a stock low rider isn't a stage anything. It's a stock bike. Stage kits is just a generic way of grouping certain performance parts and work done to a bike.
Awesome Dyna Low Riders S!! I'm looking to put on some Rush Racing slip ons. Sounds good and love how they look stock. Matt What are your thoughts on this Rush slip on?
Fili LOBO Esparza Rush makes a good exhaust. They will give you about 30% more sound. Nothing like the full exhaust system like a thunder header shown in this video though. Maybe that's not what you're going for though.
zeallistic Ok good to know. Ya The reason I want the Rush slip ons splash down is because I like the look of the stock exhaust but I want that Harley sound..lol
I have a super glide,16,,, 96ci,,, with 4 modify.... N I'm thinking of replacing the 96ci. For a 117ci.. with hp around the 120' n torque 130+... any advice ?? Keep it between the dishes.
A few things from an owner:
The stock tires have to go, it looks like he's still on the stock michelins. They wear great, mine is at 8k in four months/25% left...... but just aren't enough traction for the power output this bike makes--even stock. I've broke traction at 90 in sixth.
The stock shocks have got to go. This bike really should have 13+ shocks and an 18" rear wheel instead of the stock 17. I love the stock look, but guys are going to jack the rear up for practicality [necessity] anyway. I've bottomed out and dropped the bike. Luckily it was minimal, nothing a new exhaust and a little powdercoat won't fix.
This setup is great--the fairing's ugly but function trumps form here. Despite the 'thug' SOA trend these bikes can pull serious miles in relative comfort while still maintaining the connection to machine. You can haul a whole hell of a lot of gear in the bags, the brakes and suspension are beyond adequate, you have two-up capability without the huge tour pack, and the amount of power this bike makes (!)--cruising is easy over 80. And it gets about 38mpg to boot.
Oh hey just a note--I've ran the stock air cleaner with the screen over it at 80 for about eight hours in a rain storm--no trouble with it fouling. How's that for beta testing HD?
Scott Kohs That one Time when someone gave a better review than me in the comments section.
Scott Kohs I'll be buying this bike in about a week. you said the shocks we're not that great, would it be an issue with my wife riding on the back. Hopefully not
Bobby Beatty they're great shocks, you would be perfectly happy with the ride quality, however height is not where it needs to be re the performance level of this bike. my peg feelers are...gone. I couldn't recommend lifter blocks enough, I've seen guys turn around lowering blocks for a quick fix. I would say if you don't bottom out a softail you won't have any issues.
Scott Kohs I own a sportbike, the wife and i do alot of riding, just wanted to get you're opion. would this bike be good stock with a passenger. thanks for the reply
In a word, no. I would strongly recommend the street glide for the value that package offers.
The dyna platform: swingarm mount passenger pegs. Pain in the ass is alleviated by standing on the pegs. Eventually, that pain will no longer be tolerable, usually after about an hour if you don't have a sissybar--regardless of the shocks supplied.
The touring platform, while heavier, is a more rigid frame and the footpegs are frame mounted. Coupled with the fact that stock the street/road glide and road king all have better lean angles on the right at 32 deg. (29.5 on the dyna), and the new milwaukee eight motor, you really can't go wrong in that dept. Check out HD's "compare bikes" feature and look to performance to see what I'm getting at.
I've come back to watch this about 10 times just to listen to that engine
Matt video's haha right on. Sounds awesome.
thats why Harley sell.
I've got the 117 turning 118 HP 137 TQ and to be honest, this bike still scares me. I've been riding 40 years but never felt this kind fo torque. Setting the cruise to 70ish I had to brake hard once. When clear I hit resume and the bike damn near snatched the handle bars out of my hands.
I put the Saddleman Dominator so I can have removable 2 up. Once I get the larger rear (probably going to a 200) and new wheels I'll have it painted. It;s a slow process after dumping that much cash into the bike and motor lol
Are you running the screaming eagle 117 kit? What cam?
@@FloridaMan-hr8hy I would never buy a HD part to "upgrade" my bike.
I love how you are so honest in your reviews, and very knowledgeable, I wish I was living around you guys, I am from New Jersey and it’s very hard to find people that really care about there customers, and this bike sounds unbelievable
My favorite dyna, period!
I'm glad there's a motorcycle dealer out there like you. To actually show people what the bikes are like. I may need to ride do to LA to buy my Dyna😀
I have the Low Rider S but no big bore kit just had the 110ci and I'm very happy with it, traded my Night Rod Special for it
Installed 117 kit on my 2013 CVO Roadking , along with T-man 625 SP cams, S&S High performance lifters, Revolution performance Auto-tune ECM, Cosmetic head gasket, along with Fullsac performance DX exhaust. Its a beast 125+ HP. Can run this baby up to 6400RPM !! Comes on strong at 2000 rpm. Nothing can touch it ! the M8 SE 117 can even come close !
Great bike and great video. The sound is incredible with that setup - especially knowing it's much more potent in person.
117 build up with SE Pro MVA Heads: $5000 +/- (Incl. Install Labor) or,
120ST or 120R crate motor. Both incl. heads: $6500 +/- (Incl. Install Labor) and,
sell the 110SE: $3500. (do the math)
No substitute for cubic inches, baby!
(You can put the $2G into suspension upgrades
Tom Pava the 6500 doesn't include labor to swap out an entire engine. Just the engine alone is about 6k.
Just curious Matt if you've got the time,,,what's the mrkt on a 2016 stk 110 w/ less than 500mi. I'm on the fence w/ the 117 or 120s. Thanks
Robert Hutchings all of that and it makes 80hp I bet
Eagle1 That is what I was quoted.
117ci kit comes with 1 year warranty, 120s has no warranty and harley says its not meant for street use.
Wow...that Dyna rips! The sound is amazing.. as well. Love the sound it makes! Crazy ....again, that's coming form a crouch rocket guy. Awesome set up! I appreciate fine things on two wheels regardless of the make. If i were to buy a cruiser I would definitely buy a Harley! still got my eye on the 2016/17 Softail Slim S ..just beautiful!
Remus LA thanks brother.
Remus LA never rode me one of them "crouch" rockets before....how they ride? 😂😂
Not bad:)) they're adictive. All depends on the make and model as well, like Harley.
I always learn something every time I watch your videos. I have a Suzuki now, but my next bike is going to be HD. This bike looks really awesome.
Tommy D you'll love it man. Owning a Harley is motorcycle ownership to the next level.
I like to crank up the volume! Matt Laidlaw, you are so right about the sound!
I've liked those bikes since they have came out. That one is set up nicely. I usually don't like T bars but those looks good since they aren't above the fairing. I just wish I could lane split/filter in VA. Traffic is crazy up here and has gotten real congested lately.
my personal dyna low is a 103 ci with 48 mm carb, heavy breather, 577 zipper cams, high comp heads, front and rear premium shocks. Its a radical beast wound really tight. cant imagine that motor on first year big twin. mine is 638 lbs and feels like the road is greased
excellent. thanks for posting. i'm getting close to pulling the trigger on a new bike and have narrowed it down to a low rider s or a road king. i'll do 90% in-town riding and commuting, with occasional touring and weekenders. although these low riders are killer, i think the road king is ultimately more versatile and i'm leaning that way.
What did you end up getting buddy
At around 2:20-2:23 look carefully at the bags, the one on the right looks bigger than the one on the left side
I have almost the same set up- 2017 lowrider S, 117" kit, Bassani pipe and different intake. doing the kraus front end and Olhins rears over the winter. I love it, but it is a bike you want to ride hard. Its very choppy at slow speeds due to the torque. When I ride a 103" Harley I realize how much more power it has.
Hank Brown nice setup. I love olhins suspension. I agree with your opinion.
while there my be more powerful bikes out there , i think some folks just dont get the whole muscle bike idea, same as muscle cars ! just pure grunt with an amazing sound and also a great lifestyle. Nice ride dude....
Excellent video, as always
Thank you
This is one badass, thanks again for a great video!
im still impatiently waiting to see what harley has done with the 2018 breakout. awesome review.
Holy smoke that is one very wild ride for experienced riders only. I think a stage 3 Low Rider S or that coast cruiser orange/black with fairing would be my ultimate bike.
He may not be aware but the chrome jiffy stand should've been black from the factory. My wife has a Low Rider S as well and hers came chrome. Harley did a warranty exchange on it.
I’m looking one of those.. sat on it today.. plus a bunch of others... Minnesota... it just snowed yesterday so...lol
That bikes insane! Another great video Matt!
+Joseph Tizol Tizol thank you
Tell ur boy to put the super brace on that front fork if u want it to really handle the power better.....just traded my lowrider S for 115 anni street glide special... so happy with that new beautiful legend blue denim machine
I did it differently. I added a stage 5, 110 tire shredder kit to my 2015, 103 Breakout. I wanted more so I added a Dry shot NOS Setup for 10 -50 more RWHP. I can now get over 160 RWHP!
the legendary Mondo from The Great Biker Build off?
Matt, Awesome, I know... I have essentially the same setup with 2 Bros exhaust and Memphis Shades Gauntlet. Sport bike rider my entire life.. 85 Kaw 1000r, ZX9, Hon929, 954, ZX-14 and more... just to say I enjoy riding now more than ever. Went to Lo Rider to get the closest thing to sport bike and for my lady to ride w/me. Interchange 2up seat with QD backrest w/rack for my lady comfort yet back to single seat and quick release on the Gauntlet and that sweet 117ci for the badassitude. Truly a great all round bike now! Never, ever, thought I'd be so happy not hittng 12,000 rpm+!
Every auto maker ever makes upgrades to your vehicle... anybody asking that question at 7:00 only deserves the back of the hand, no explanation needed.
Awesome video and your comments on HD and how the bike rides is bang on the money!!! It ain't a cheap upgrade but worth every penny, I've no regrets at all in doing it to my S !!! 😎
whats the estimated cost of doing the 117 upgrade?
Parts and labor probably around 5500 with your exhaust of choice. At least out here in Colorado with our taxes.
The 110 has plenty of power no need for more
@@AnonymousAnonymous-mk2yv
Wrong.
I have the 117 kit on mine. I already want more.
@@Mrdrivereight
At that price, it would be time to consider an SE120R crate motor.
I've been thinking about doing this to my 2016 Road Glide Ultra CVO. I've done the basics to it, exhaust and dyno tune. The bike runs good. I ride in the 4 corners of the southwest so I'm always at altitude. I just don't want to drop the cash to get this done right and not really see a big change for the better.
my first bike to love it......117 coming in next year!
Gearing up to do the 117 on my FXDLS and in the process replace my Two Bros Comp S with a Thunderheader but I'm seeing people saying the Thunderheader will choke the 117.
Thoughts?
Brian Bloom go D & D! Thunder header is old news
That bike has a great sound. Thanks for sharing.
Golden years before M8 ruined dyna bro life
does conely fairing block the wind much ?
hoang dao hell yea it does
Wow that is nice! hate I sold my 2017 Lowrider S and got the 114 2018 Breakout. love the Breakout, but there was just something wild
about the Low S!
Well done Matt. I just wanted to offer some observations after watching the video. I noticed that someone said why doesn't Harley Davidson offer this engine in the bike to start with and Harley Davidson practices "money grab" tactics. When you go out an purchase a car, most if not all models have different option packages. The base model has the least options with the most basic engine. A middle option package that offers more options as the base but not as many as the premium package. With each upgrade package, the price increases exponentially. The same holds true with just about any consumer based product. Harley Davidson does the same. Why is it a "money grab" when they are doing the same as everyone else. This allows people the opportunity to still have the opportunity to enter the world of Harley Davidson in an affordable way. If everything was premium, consumers would be relegated to purchase used or nothing at all. Also, used bikes allow people to purchase a model that they want but couldn't offered if only new was available. Matt also made a valid point that it would not be prudent to put some one on a bike they can't handle. Over time, with experience, you can move up the product line. Another point I would like is that some people perceive Harley Davidson's as big, underpowered, slugs. To this point I would say that in Harley Davidson's long and storied history, Harley Davidson has been involved in all types of racing. From board racing in the twenties and thirties, to flat track, drag racing, and yes superbikes. When Harley Davidson entered superbike racing with the VR 1000,in just a few years that were earning top three finishes and many thought the VR1000 was the best designed super bike of its day. Harley Davidson was competing against other brands with much more experience. Harley Davidson has proven they can design and produce anything they set their mind to and to the highest degree.
Lawrence Kauderer Thanks for the comment. Yea, people make comments who don't really know the history.
I have a question I got a same 117 dana S .got problem after I rode about 2 hours then I stuck in traffic engine got too hot that shut off its self .could not start until it cool down .any suggest ????
hoang dao it's hard to say. These engines need air passing over them. Keep the bike moving. It should be able to handle a decent amount of heat though.
oil cooler kit help or synthetic oil.thank you for respone
The s model has fly by wire throttle. If you crank the throttle up in the opposite direction of acceleration it shuts off one of the cylinders to help out in traffic jams.
thank you mrdrivereight that help
you can also buy an oil cooler, or cooling fan like love jugs, or buy both 👍
bought 2017 lowrider s in aus awesome bike can see why people upsize motor the 110 is perfect for this bike has the torque spot on for street riding . Have heard people talk about heavy clutch pull ,my 2003 ,1200 sportster isn`t much lighter ,couldn`t get bassani roadrage in time so shop recommended to try vance/hines hi output 2into1 short sounds pretty brutul the more I ride it the more I love it .love your work
Stephen Spence Thanks man. Enjoy the bike.
😖 I can't decide if I want a dyna street bob or a road glide special. I love both for what they offer.
One of each
after i finish my shovel im wanting to get a model s dyna!!!! maybe ill have to swing up to your dealership!
I'd love to help. Good luck with the Shovel
May put that kit in my low rider s. nice Matt.
Thank You for the quarter fairing info.. put one on mine and looks awesome
Chad Martin cool. Yea they look good.
freakin love this bike, can't wait to get my beast , thanks for explaining what's up with the 117 cuz I was considering the upgrade.
I assume that fairing offers better wind protection, but the factory one looks much better.
Holy hell, the sound of that bike is absolutely wicked! The torque on this machine must be nothing short of frightening. Love it. One question: what is the heat like on this machine? Does it absolute roast you in stop and go traffic on a warm day? 117ci seems like A LOT of motor to air cool! Whatever the case, I'll take one ;) Thanks for highlighting this beastly sled Matt. Love these videos you're doing on these interesting builds! Very cool.
I think the frame is stiff enough for that 117 engine...the trouble is in the front and rear floating mounts but..that is why True-Track or Sputhe are for.
thanks. I have a 17 sgs and have cfr slipons and wana do torque cam and ac. what should my numbers be
Kit "A" on the top left hand side. There are graphs of power figures at the bottom of the page.
viewer.zmags.com/publication/950b8fae#/950b8fae/506
i love that bike so much really want one bad it is for sure gonna be my next bike of course i will be buying used hopefully i can find one with the 117ci kit used in the next year or 2... how would u say that bike would do set up that way for long distance i currently have a yamaha roadstar 107ci i plan on keeping it as my touring bike i have it bagged out but i live in texas and 30 miles from the nearest town so i do alot of highway and long distance riding on a daily
redneck1000 it will work. The conely fairing does pretty good to keep a lot of the wind off. The suspension is good. Touring chassis bikes are better though. For long distance
and what are the specs of 117 cubic inch motor?!
hi mate you recommended this kit for a first time Harley buyer looking at the lowrider s just not sure if I should spend the extra money on the kit straight up
jimmyP what kind of riding experience do you have? What kind of riding do you do? What past bikes have you owned?
zeallistic I am from motocross and enduro back ground i have ridden my mates sports bikes before been riding motorcycles since I was six 25 yrs old now
jimmyP it sounds like you would be a good candidate for it. You have great experience. If you're traveling at higher speeds on the open highway a lot then I would say get it.
zeallistic thanks mate keep up the good work
thats my next new bike with the 110 or 117 kit bike look and sounds great either way
Matt you mention this build isn't for the casual rider. What do you recommend as far as a stage kit that a casual rider could go to and still benefit from? Maybe install SE-255 Cams and call it good?
+Kyle Dane The casual rider should keep the bike stock. The 110 CI engine moves really good with nothing added.
nice video! how would you compare this beast to the vrod in terms of performance?
minibullet91 I feel like this would beat a Vrod. This is gonna have a way more torque feel and the Vrod is more horse power.
minibullet91 the V-Rod will probably be just a little ahead until about 110mph, where the v-rod will keep pulling like a freight train til 145mph+ and leave the dyna behind.
I put 40k+ miles on the v-rod, you can get a used one on Craig's for $7k easy. it's the best value for American v-twin muscle by far.
all that being said, i would rather have the dyna, because it sounds world's better, it has much better fuel range, it handles better and is just a better overall touring bike.
my 2 cents..
I drag my Harley's as much as I can, drug quite a few v rods asses. I have never ridden one , but from my experience they are dogs. I know riders mean everything, just haven't found one that rides there v rod worth a fuck! I'd take that dyna any day.
Can't stop watching your videos! Well done job! But please make a breakout review and test ride! Your opinion is important for us! Like who's want it too!)
Loved this...the Sound...and the view...Thanks 👍😎
engine working so well
I want to take my 2015 CVO Street Glide 110 to a 117 and its been suggested that i use the 594C cams. does anyone have anything to say about those cams? Trying to get it right the first time.
I'm looking at buying this bike and I'm already thinking about my build.... those thunderheaders sound amazing.... do you think earplugs are necessary?
No, The wind Noise will be more deafening than the exhaust Noise. Get a full face Helmet if you're worried. Ear plugs maybe for a long trip. I didn't feel like I needed them
Oh my God....
What was used for tuning ? A dyno ? Or Fuelpak, power v ? Auto tuned ?
Real awesome noise.cool bike. I'm about to purchase a Dyna. I'm really confused and having hard months thinking about how to finally choose the one for me. I'm thinking about the super glide custom and the street Bob. At beginning I bought an iron 883. Then wanted to swap it for a 48, but then was thinking to go for Dyna's.. please help me.need all the help I can get.
Matt I noticed that there are no passenger foot pegs. Are you able to put some on or can you not carry a passenger?
Chad D you can easily install passenger pegs. You'll also have to get a two-up seat. The low rider S comes with a solo seat.
Any dyna numbers on this , just looking to compare this kit to an S&S upgrade . Parts per dollar/horsepower , thanks .
Douglas Brown I need to get the dyno chart up.
so I have a 2016 low rider s as well but none of the websites have it for the model, what model do I pick to make it fit?
I'm not sure what specific part you're referring to. But items that fit a FXDL and FXDB (2006 and newer) have a lot of interchangeable parts.
the thunderhead I apologize
Damian MonReal yea buy the one that fits a Dyna 2006 and later. FXD, FXDB, FXDL, FXDC. All the same fitting at FXDLS
ok thank you! I appreciate it!
nice bike murdered out gangster
I have the same bike with this same 117 kit and the thunder header.
I wonder if you have any suggestions to improve the power even more. it's amazing now, but I might think the compression could be raised if anyone makes a piston yet. also wondered about heads and cams.
I prefer screaming eagle to aftermarket.
the brakes and shocks work so well, I think it could handle more power , even though as you say it's very brutal now. have same exhaust.
ive got thunder headers on my 110ci low rider, is it the stage iv that really cranks the sound up? mine are much quieter than this
Matt, is H-D discontinuing the S series of bikes for 2018? If not, would you think they would come with the M8 107 or 114?
Kathy Segismundo I can't really speculate. I don't know.
can anyone please give me details about this conely fairing? The amazon link is incorrect.
here you go
conelysaccessoriesusa.com/dynas/?sort=bestselling
ive been wanting this kit for 2 years, it sounds though like it maybe wont be good for my ride style. im more of a "cruise" rider, do some back road destination rides and town shit. would a stage 3 cam be a better choice?
Question: I have a 2017 FXDLS with a 110ci. The clutch lever feels really difficult with a lot of resistance. It's annoying/painful when I'm stuck in traffic. Is this normal for this bike??? And if so, is there anything I can do to the bike that would not negatively effect the rest of the bike or compromise something? Great video!!!
The 110 has a larger clutch spring that unfortunately makes the clutch pull harder. Yea, it's a hand work out in heavy traffic. With the extra power you need that heavy duty clutch though. There maybe a kit out there that reduces clutch effort but I'm not aware of anything specific.
Thank you very much.
Mine 103 has 108 hp 116 tq I have the screaming eagle clutch spring & it pulls easy
You should feel the pro clutch in my shovelhead it will give you popeye forearms 😆
Scrum Thebum2 .is that stock engine?
Dale Humphrey my twin cam has stock 103 flat top pistons
Cnc ported stock heads by zippers performance decked .018 , .030 head gaskets , 10.2 compression Andrews 57 h cams, S&S stealth air cleaner , cobra power port duals with screaming eagle street cannon slips. Did the cams & removed & replaced heads myself so it was very affordable
I have a softail slim s if I were to put the 117 kit on my harley will my engine run hotter on idol also what do you think about the super trapp dennis kirk exhaust?
Matt Laidlaw did you ride it with the sock on? Is that recommended to keep the sock on at all time or just when it's raining?
Edwin Rivas just when it's raining or really dusty. Yea the sock was on when I rode it
What is the brand of saddle bags shown on this Dyna Low Rider? Will the bags shown work with a Softail Slim S (FLSS)?
They are the Conley T sport saddlebags. conelysaccessoriesusa.com/softails/?sort=bestselling
Wonder what kits are out now since 7years
4:20 you can see the BEST spot to do an exhaust sound check... You coast through it... LMFFFAAAOOO 🤦♂️👍
excellent video
Whenever I hear a twin cam fire up .. I get chills. And I just had the 96 on my FB.
I have a 107 M8 now and it’s so not the same ground shaking loudness. Time for some 4.5” slips ons .. I hear the khrome werks and SVT bone shakers will get me close to thst twin cam goodness..
Anyone have either of these ?
What was the dyno numbers for this 117” kit? My local shop is claiming 150hp?
🤦🏻🤣
They're lying.
I have a 117 Stage IV Screamin Eagle kit on mine, with a Vance and Hines pro pipe. It makes 112HP and 125 ft/lb.
The 117 Stage IV Screamin Eagle kit only makes 9.5:1 compression, at best, and the 259E cams are very mild.
I was considering the 10.5:1 T-Man Performance Wiseco pistons and Total Seal rings, and a set of cams from Comp. However, it would really need the oil pump and cam plate upgrades, and that still leaves the questionable crankshaft when you get above 135HP.
So I'm looking at the SE120R crate engine.
What's the biggest big bore kit you can put on a 103 without splitting or boring the cases?
Hi There. Love all your vid's Matt!!...What an awesome bike the 117" is... my question though. What is the expected longevity of the stock Harley drive belt, with the addition of the extra power..?? I would hate a rubber band to break on a ride somewhere.. Matt from Oz
Matt Rudland thank you and good question. I would expect to be slightly less maybe. Again it's all about the rider. If you're a guy who is doing wheelies and burn outs it's gonna break a lot quicker. It's a factor of how much and quick you regularly crack the throttle aggressively.
Thanks for a super quick reply, Matt. Gave up the Wheelies [Mono's] when I gave up the 1000cc Jap bikes. But I do like the twisties, which is why I am leaning towards a 110 Dyna S as apposed to a Breakout. I am just concerned that a belt replacement is a fairly major service cost, since the whole primary and clutch has to come apart + the swing arm has to be removed for the replacement. Not something I want to be doing every 12 months. May have to look at a drive chain replacement option! Does harley offer this as an option?Matt from Oz.
Matt Rudland Harley doesn't offer a chain final drive. Replacing a belt isn't as hard you you think. You don't have to remove the swing arm.
Silly question, but how would this much power and performance effect the mileage on this bike??
Road Glider good question. Gas mileage will go down but I'm not sure of the exact figures.
Road Glider expect low 30s
I know old did but besides going to 117 what cam and compression weakest you 110 for high speed long distance? Torque is great looking to add up mid to high rpm and up the red line.
G'day from Aus Matt - love your videos. I have ordered a Low Rider S - trying to decide on 117 or standard 110. I just wanted to get your opinion on if the throttle is twitchy with the upgrade compared to standard and how the 117 would be in the wet? I found on a test ride in the wet that the standard bike can easily brake traction even at 50mph. Maybe a bigger and more sticky rear tyre??????
Do you guys have a frame jig and do frame mods, 2" out & 4" up?
No we don’t modify frames.
You have a knack for always put out exactly what I want to see . Top notch videos brother keep them coming . My question for you is does Harley have a 120 kit for the 110 ? If not do you think that might be something in the works . I'm pretty sure the company knows you have a lot of customer feed back . So tell them if you build it hey will come
There is a 120R and a 120St engine. You have to buy the entire engine. There is no upgrade kit. It's like 6k to buy one. Thank you for the positive feed back. Will do.
Hey Matt. Dig the vids and competent info. I've had that 120 upgrade in mind. Do you know if there are conflicts to installing one on a 2017 Low Rider S in California? If so, any workarounds possible? Maybe reg out-of-state? Thanks man!
lazzyRJ plan on running very hot.. asbestos pants?
does anybody know what stage the dyna low rider s is considered coming out of the box? like stage 1, 2,3 or stage 4? I just wondered considering the dyna low rider s comes with the 110 stock. anybody know?
I think it comes with stage 1 since it has the screaming eagle heavy breather...
Taylor Eldridge pistons and cylinders without heads Harley Davidson considers a stage 3. So if you're comparing a normal low rider to a low rider S. The FXDLS has the stage 3 benefits. Of course the stage 3 build for a FXDLS would take it to a 117 which is what is shown here.
Matt Laidlaw so would my stock low rider S (fxdls) be considered a stage 3 then? or a stage 2?
Taylor Eldridge a stock low rider isn't a stage anything. It's a stock bike. Stage kits is just a generic way of grouping certain performance parts and work done to a bike.
Matt Laidlaw gotcha. I mean even though my low rider s has the 110 cubic inch Screamin eagle is it still considered stage 1?
Awesome Dyna Low Riders S!! I'm looking to put on some Rush Racing slip ons. Sounds good and love how they look stock. Matt What are your thoughts on this Rush slip on?
Fili LOBO Esparza Rush makes a good exhaust. They will give you about 30% more sound. Nothing like the full exhaust system like a thunder header shown in this video though. Maybe that's not what you're going for though.
zeallistic Ok good to know. Ya The reason I want the Rush slip ons splash down is because I like the look of the stock exhaust but I want that Harley sound..lol
I have a super glide,16,,,
96ci,,, with 4 modify....
N I'm thinking of replacing the 96ci. For a 117ci.. with hp around the 120' n torque 130+... any advice ??
Keep it between the dishes.
Is it true 2017 FXDLS has the equivalent of a stage 1 download from the factory?
Hey Matt, what license plate/turn signal mount was used here? Thanks!
ayesnyne I'll have to look into that. I'm not sure.
Hey Matt, Can the 117 be shoved into a Softail S or any FLH?
H J yes. Anything that is shipped from the factory with a 110 or a 114 CI displacement. So CVO and "S" models.
hey i like your ride i think im going to take my softail and do the the same route you took lol
Put a camera on Mondo and show us more of his beautiful bike!
Dear Matt
I'm interested in doing some similar modes to my 2016 v-rod muscle. Do you have any suggestions?
wicked machine! Sounds amazing!