I'm surprised by your conclusions the difference was minimal. If you did that test again tomorrow the results could reverse. What I saw was the same numbers with both balls so was surprised you was so conclusive towards the prov1 X. The price difference in the UK is a no brainer the Bridgestone every time.
Ronnie is looking for every percentage point of improvement so the ProV1X is worth the price point (for him), but that is why we post the data so everyone can make their own informed decision
@Tim O'Hagan to a budget golfer maybe not, but you forget golfers are interesting people who will gladly spend $500 on a new driver hoping to gain a few yards. Spending an extra $1 for a golf ball to gain 3+ yards off the tee doesn't seem nearly as outlandish as $500+ for a new driver
@@kourt2469 Yep, I mentioned something similar in another post. Some players just want to know they are getting the absolutely most performance they can get out of their equipment even if it cost a ton for those marginal gains. If they can get 5 more yards from a $500 driver they will pay for it, if a $500 shaft will give them another 5 they will buy that and if another $1 a ball will give them 3 they will certainly spend that too. If you start to add that up they could be gaining 10-15 yards, which is nothing to sneeze at. Would I spend that money? No, but if you have the money and play alot why not try to get as much gains as you can even as minimal as they may seem? With that said I do question the fact that he would get 3 yards with the ball, based off this small sample there seems to be alot of variables that come into play, perhaps the difference would be wider with more shots or less but just a handful or even a dozen shots wouldn't be enough for me to make a conclusion either way.
@Tim O'Hagan I fully agree here. The Subject of the video 'should a Mid-Handicap play a tour ball' is misleading compared to what the conclusion of the video was. I fully agree that the price is really NOT justified for a mid handicapper. I can hardly see that Ronnie would have gained if even 1 stroke out on the course based on these 2 balls. And we haven't even see him do anything around the green with both balls. I don't know his skill around the green, but most mid handicap golfers will do better with a softer ball around the green. If you take that into account, I even think the conclusion here might be full out wrong. @TXG Tour Experience Golf : I love your videos, but personally I don't think this one is aimed at a mid-handicap audience and is too shallow for such a certain outcome. Like I said, any play around the green is not taken into account and might flip the review to the complete opposite side...
@Tyler Wengel Thanks, you gave me a reason to re-watch. and I've come away feeling like this was a paid advert for Titleist. The body language, tone and facial expressions on the guys in the conclusion part, just dont match the words. Especially Matt at 8:49 with the nose touch. Apols for getting overly analytical and critiquing the work. I really enjoy TXG's content adn this is not a dis to them. I am probably totally wrong. Even if I'm right then they've got loved ones to feed I'm sure. This just left me with a nagging feeling the conclusion was that every golfer 'should' play a pro v1 - which is exactly what Titleist preach themselves.
Disappointing bias to Titleist on this test. Made a big point about predictability of spin at 6:39 then completely ignored the fact the Bridgestone had better standard deviations on the next two sets of spin data. You'd have to be stupid to pay the extra for a ProV.
Yes and no mention of the high cost of the Titleist ball either. The difference is so miniscule it could easily be variance in swing. I feel like they are pushing Pro-V1's really hard.
@@primetimegamer0074 Its a shame but I think you're right. Do they honestly think a handicap golfer is going to notice a negligible difference in spin from 100 yards? It is laughable.
Definitely the first video where I feel this video could easily be made by any other golf reviewer. I'm not going to say Matt and Ian are getting lazy compared to their humbling beginnings years ago, but this video could have been much better if they tested a handful of balls and did a proper ball fitting for Ronnie. This is an important topic that applies to so many viewers. And they know this so why not do it? Why make a video if you limit it to this subpar comparison? The views? A promise to Titleist? I'm not saying this is a Titleist commercial but go back to @1:05 in the 2021 prov video Matt specifically mentions Titleist marketing how you lose strokes not playing premium balls. And now this video. I get it, Titleist sends free stuff and you need to hold up your end of the bargain to make sure the marketing is in the videos. And everyone wants Rick Shiels status...but I would argue in the past 12 months the OEM influence on txg is more noticeable even if Ian and Matt swear otherwise. The way Ian and Matt spoke about pxg not sending free stuff rubbed me the wrong way recently and this video didn't help.
Hey everyone. Ronnie here. Thanks for your comments & perspectives! Wanted to share my thinking re the question ... is the additional cost worth the benefit of a small lift in ball speed for the 7 iron & driver? In Canada, the difference in cost between the RXS & ProV1X is $5/dozen (CDN$). I buy 5 dozen balls /yr (according to Titleist the avg golfer buys 4 dozen balls /yr). That's an additional $25/yr. Or 55 cents /round (I play about 45 rounds/yr.). Is the additional cost worth it? For me, a slow swinging, senior, an easy yes.
I’d be more interested in seeing Ronnie hit something like a Tour Response ($35) vs. TP5/5x ($45). That’s the real test for mid-handicappers. Tour B RXS is $44.99 in the US compared to $47.99 for the Pro V1x.
Just switched to B-RXS & hit my best score ever - love them - used Pro V1 & TP5 before. I play a yellow ball & the Bridgstone yellow is much easier on my eye.
Love having Ronnie back as many can relate speed and swing wise. Exceedingly valuable information presented and why ball fitting needs to be done. Thanks Ronnie. Well done TXG.
My thoughts exactly. The larger portion of the golf population has swing speeds anywhere from 85-100mph tops. Watching guys with 110-120mph swing speeds does nothing for the average golfer.
The consistency was actually tighter in the Bridgestone on 7i and driver I think right? Tighter in the prov1 on partial and wedge shots. If it’s that tight, comes down to feel and price.
Excited to see this. I have absolutely fallen in LOVE with the B-RXS. I've tested every premium ball out there and for a slower swing speed player, it does everything I want it to. You still get all the benefits of a premium ball but at a lower compression point allowing me to get the most out of it. When I try things like the TP5 & ProV, I just don't feel like I ever hit it hard enough to get the full performance.
This is SO SIMPLE AND an EASY ANSWER!!! Any player at ANY LEVEL---- can play whatever BALL THEY WANT--- PERIOD!! They should not be PERSUADED or talked down to about what about their choice of ball( based on skill level!) EDUCATING without JUDGING is the PROBLEM, just GIVE the FACTUAL INFO( that is hard for golf companies and REVIEWERS to DO -- honesty, not marketing, not HYPE!)!!!! It is a GOOD thing that players of ALL LEVELS --TRY -- different kinds of golf balls! They WILL LEARN -- through their OWN experimenting --- what works best for them!!! I can remember when I first learned to play, I could NOT FEEL the difference between golf balls; after practicing more and MORE TIME-- I began to get different sleeves from different balls, as I grew more comfortable with my set of clubs --- THEN I could feel the difference!! It was TIME and FEEL for MY CLUBS---- NOT the LEVEL I played at!!!!! YOUR JOB---- is JUST--- FACTUAL, NO HYPE --- TRUTH about how the ball feels and flies!!! YOUR education is very helpful ( when done RIGHT!) with the CAVEAT----- ALL players will have a DIFFERENT FEEL for the ball !!!! Just keep it REAL guys, just the facts, NOT what the golf companies WANT to have INFLUENCE over!!!
I think the point of the video, although they didn't spell it out very well, was that it doesn't make sense for lower swing speed players to play a low compression golf ball, regardless of brand. They could have done the same test with a Srixon Z-star or any other tour level ball and found similar results.
I wouldn't necessarily agree with results it really all depends on feel off the club around greens and especially putting ... There was very little between them on the stats ...
a $4,000 dollar pair of shoes with good spikes can get you at least .5 cm gain in distance for all clubs. So, it's worth it for the high, mid, low handicapper.
Definitely want to see more ball testing with Ronnie! Would really like to see him try lower price balls. Maybe something like Super soft vs Q star tour.
He was swinging 1.5 mph faster when hitting prov 1x (with Driver) which it turn should give him more ball speed...Not worth the money difference for me.
this is not necessarily true. It comes down to compression off the face. If a long driver hits a ball with something like a 70 compression ball his ball speeds will be down because the ball sits on the face longer and doesn't transfer the energy as efficiently. This is exactly why long drivers hit 110 compression balls so it spends the optimal amount of time on the face and efficiently transfers energy. This is also why range balls are usually around 70 compression.
colour me confused... if efficiency was the same (on driver) at 1.46 the increase in ball speed on the pro v1x must surely be down to the club head speed being 1.2mph faster (i.e 86.9 vs 85.7)
It is his efficiency from his “best drive with pro v1x” in that particular frame, he might have actually had a higher efficiency with the pro v1 x as an average and just had one swing where his club speed jumped. Granted, I agree it’s a little fishy. Most people would see this and think the Bridgestone is pretty good for the money
No offense to the boys but all these golf review channels could use some basic statistics courses. If you equate the swing speeds of the two balls (Ronnie swung harder at the ProV) the higher launch and lower spin of the Bridgestone would actually give him a few extra yards of distance at that swing speed. Lower spin off the driver will play a bit better into the wind and the higher launch will benefit more with the wind.
@@johnnypenso9574 the hardest thing about these is they don't show real world results. One of The main factors in flight is dimple patterns which you can't test in a simulator, not that there really is a great way to test that anyways unless you have some sort of wind tunnel or something. Slightly more spin can very easily come from strike location or club face angle as much as it can from type of ball. Basically most balls in the same category tend to perform so closely on simulator testing.
The man is incredibly accurate both distance and deviation from flag. No wonder you use him in your tests. I think it boils down to, if you can afford the best ball then play it. Most of us play golf for fun, not to save $1 a ball.
Thank you for this. Examining how a 90/95 ss delivery can be affected by all the options that are available is useful for many. And, Ronnie, wow man, your swing is coming along beautifully.
my gripe with this is he always hit the bridgestone first by the time he got to his 6th shot with the prov1x he had a better feel for the shot. His swing was more consistent for those last three shots with the prov1x where he had the swing feel.
I'm a golfer who prefers the feel of a soft golf ball. If I was deciding between the balls, I probable would go with the softer feeling Bridgestone since the distance drop off is marginal with the driver. Side by side, with a putter, I suspect the Bridgestone will feel miles softer than the Pro V1x.
That's where I'm at. I'm a 5 handicap with a little more speed than Ronnie but not much. Shortish hitter still. I played the Pro V1x for a year and loved the performance but didn't love the hard feel, although I got used to it. Went to the RXs last year and much prefer the softer feel. I still think the V1x spins a little more on irons and full wedges for me but after seeing this video, I'm not sure the trade off in feel is worth it to switch from the RXs now.
I have been playing the Titleist tour soft. I am a senior, 72 y/o with a relatively slow swing speed. I like the ball but I do want to try the TM tour response.
This is what I was expecting them to test it against. I don't like to say anything negative about their videos cause I love them all but I found this video to have a misleading title at the least. I consider a Bridgestone BRXS a "tour ball" (it's for slower swing speeds but it's still priced in the tour ball catebory), so I thought they'd compare a "tour ball" vs. a mid tier ball like the ones you mentioned.
I just struggle to get past how clicky the firmer balls are. I currently play the Tour B XS, i just love how it fees across the bag. Thanks again for a great video guys. Much love from Australia.
You guys need to review the Wilson Duo Professional golf ball. It's a high end ball with a low 60 compression. Straighter off the tee and spins more around the green than Prov1's.
I think they did review it on a multi ball review a while ago? Maybe with the project A TM ball. I think. Do you play with it? And do you recommend it?
Also, what's your driver club head speed / driver distance? I'm thinking of using the duo myself. I do like soft balls! 😂. I use supersoft and love the feel. Especially with putting and chipping.
Ronnie's back! It's a good day. And swinging great. Love this test. I would love as much average-speed testing as you can do, as these numbers are pretty close to mine. Bridgestone did extremely well in the 85 mph categories in both the MGS and the Today's Golfer ball tests, as I recall - in driving and mid-irons. The B-RX in particular.
Looking forward to this one , as a 13 hcap player my ball of choice has been for the last 3 years the Bridgestone B RXS ball, I think it a brilliant ball , very consistent in feel and distance and good spin and £££ :) so underrated brand and ball 😀. Go matty and Ian and RONNIE The rocket 🚀 the average golfer super tester.
I'd suggest you to look at Srixon's too. I've used Titleist's and Bridgestone's in the past, but ever since i tried Srixon Z-Star, it has been my go to. The price isn't bad either.
I love your shows! so happy to have found you guys. this show hit home for me as i just finished a wide range ball test myself. BRX, ProV1x and also e12 Speed and Soft. My index is 7.2 and I've been playing for 47 years - just turned 57. Muscling the ball getting much harder ;) I live in Seattle where golf temps range from low 40's to 80's. But, normal golf temp is upper 50's to low 60's. I wanted to know what distance I was leaving on the table, if any, with V1x. My personal tests were outdoors on the course in temps from 42F to 54F. The results were clear. e12 Soft and Speed were 20+ yards longer than BRX and 30 longer than V1x. Stopping a ball in this region is never an issue so spin would only worry me 5% of the rounds. I took this same test to La Quinta in 70-75 degree temps. Results were different. Now the Speed/Soft only minimally out distanced BRX and V1x. But, again the V1x came up at about 10 yards shorter w/ driver and about a half club on mid-long irons. In my tests it was clear that the spin of the V1x was higher. Less roll on drives, irons pulled back. Price would be King between BRX and V1x. And if it's outdoors and cool the softer balls clearly beat the tour balls. I'd be so interested to see you guys have Matt put this type of ball comparison test together. Again you guys are smashingly fun and helpful to watch - keep it go'n!
I liked the test. Given how close the numbers were, it’s hard to give the nod to the pro V1X given the $/performance for Ron. Funny, I assumed the performance gains would be seen in the wedges. I game the Pro V1X when I can and I typically stock up when they go on sale (usually around the holidays)- takes the sting out of paying full retail.
I love to play the ProV1...nothing feels like them putting and around the greens. They also sound and feel great off the club face from wedges to driver. Thanks Ronnie and the guys for the videos!
And that's the point. You found your ball. Play it. I hate that ball because I loose more prov1's and x than any other ball. At four bucks a ball my 12 handicap isn't worth it.
@@aliensarereal7832 yea, I have since gone to the Costco Kirkland ball. WAY less expensive and I am with you...at my handicap they are not worth the money.
@@markk171 Have you tried the Vice pro and the pro plus. I spent about 500 bucks this year testing most of the balls out there for the fun of it and that is the one ball that caught my attention the most. Still pricey at $30 a dozen but I buy mine mint for half the price.
@@aliensarereal7832 Yep tried the Vice, a bunch of Callaway, TaylorMade...but for me...the Costco Kirkland performed as well as any and at $25 for 2 dozen balls...what a deal!
@@markk171 Good choice. I buy those mint also for 75 cents to a buck. I really like those also. The fact that you play a kirkland after playing a pro v1 shows that your intelligent. You probably have a really good game. Thanks for responding.
To me that looked like the results between both were very negligible.... Either one would work.....for me with those numbers it would completely come down to cost.
With these numbers and from what I’ve heard about the soft feel around the green with the Bridgestone B RX I think I would lean towards the Bridgestone. Just my opinion
Would be great to see you test the Bridgestone “R” balls vs the tour b x and tour b xs to see if the Bridgestone marketing is right on them fitting different swing speeds or if everyone should play the former balls.
The results demonstrate that there is very little difference between the balls; a great deal more importance must be attributed to the consistency of a club player’s swing.
no way can you say the Pro V1x is better by that test, absolutely nothing in it. Only thing separating those 2 balls is price. I have both in my bag at the moment, the biggest difference for me is the Pro V1x is very clicky and a brick off the putter.
Ronnie and I are of similar age and swing speed and I have always been playing ProV1x. Especially since the MyGolfSpy test. I've been pretty much a Titleist guy since the '60's.
Very interesting.... I play the RXS because I love a very soft feeling ball and have played the soft Bridgestone ball for 10 years. Looks like I should do some ball testing to see of I can get more speed but also have a soft feel. To give you an idea of how I love a soft feel with my wedges and putting, I love the feel of the Wilson low compressing balls with my wedges, they feel fantastic. I don't play them as they do not suit my long game with a driver speed of abiut 102 mph.
I’d like to see the comparison of these vs an e6 or e12 as well. Just to get an idea. I struggle with the same bc I like the ProV1 with the irons and wedges/putter, but feel like I need the extra distance with the e6.
As a mid-high handicap I was playing a Wilson dou soft, which I love when it comes to putting. Switched last year to a Srixon Z star. Would be interesting to see what kinda numbers Ronnie would get with the dou soft versus a premium ball.
I understand wanting to get every last bit of ball speed for Ronnie, but I seem to recall him aspiring to higher ball flights... With all the rest of the data being so similar, I thought the launch/ ball height might be more of a consideration?
@@rp6163 I know the test was designed to be an experiment about slower swingers using firmer golf balls, so maybe there is another firm premium ball that launches higher than ProV1 X.... More testing required I guess 😁
Ian and Matt I see a few dissenters out there thinking you guys are advertising Titleist. One thing I noticed was Ronnie swinging harder at the 1X . I play both Titleist and Bridgestone, the V1 and V1X feel like bricks so it's Bridgestone for me as they are pretty much identical in performance. Keep up the good work guys the ball testing is great as that's the one part of your game that you can chop and change much more easily cheers.
The spin dispersion on his 7 iron was far better with the Bridgestone and he was swinging a bit faster with his driver when hitting the ProV1 so it is hard for me to see how it would be worth the extra dollars for what was basically a toss-up.
I am a 13.1 handicap, did a similar test last year. Flight scoped and played comparative practice rounds with all the balls in the recommended range for my handicap and above. There were a few odd cases where I performed very well with a super low compression, slow swing speed ball: Wilson 50 Elite was one. But after time putting, chipping, pitching, sand, irons, and woods. Of the balls I tested I found the same thing. The "Tour Ball" ... Srixon Z-Star XV did what fit my game MORE than anything else. The firmer balls had far more forgiveness and less variance in my long play and spun more in my short game by a large amount (mostly due to the higher quality cover materials). The tour balls also performed better in poor conditions like wet, damp, windy, etc. (Except cold, the lower-compression tour balls like Pro V1, Z-Star and Chrome Soft were better on distance in colder weather). The point of this novel is, watch the vids then do your own testing and make sure to remember that HOW YOU PLAY is important, WHAT YOU WANT FROM YOUR GAME is important. Not what's on the box. Been playing 2 years. No ball will do it for me, but working my butt off to get to a 10 handicap this year.
Looks like we'll have to find a new tester soon. Ronnie will be a scratch players after this season from what I'm seeing with his improved ballstriking. Great to see Ronnie again.
RXS slightly better on wedges, Pro V1X slightly better on 7 iron. I think RXS wins on driver due to lower spin and higher launch for slower swing speeds. VERY disappointed that you showed bias in declaring Pro V1X the clear winner.
what about the same player playing the B-RX and a B-XS (Tiger's Ball)? Are you just getting a firmer feel with the B-XS or will there be a difference in performance?
Would love to see you delve into more detail in the short game area. 5 yard chip, pitch over bunker, pin at the back of the green, pin at the front of the green etc. Great video as always!
Would this apply to Bridgestone’s X ball as well? Like Ronnie, I put stock in the ball test from a few years ago that seemed to indicate Bridgestone was a great ball in terms of manufacturing consistency, etc...
Great idea! Been trying to get my buddy to drop the entry level balls and move into a premium ball. Would like to see you compare a low end/entry level ball (top flight xl distance, taylormade distance +, etc) to a premium ball.
How would the Bridgestone Tour BX golf ball compare to the 2021 Titleist Pro V1 for a mid handicap golfer? This would be a test I would be greatly interested in if you can make it happen one day. Thank you & keep up the good work.
Try the Wilson Duo Professional golf bell. It has a lower compression rate of 60. Plays great at lower swing speeds and actually spins better around the greens than the Prov1.
@@stevencarrier5060 I don't but I played them all year last year. My golf partner for league plays the Prov1's. At his swing speed he compresses them just fine. He hits PW 155 with blades. Even he admitted they spin less off the tee with driver and more on chip shots around the green. He now uses them in cold weather when he can't compress the Prov1's. They are a three piece ball with a urethane cover. Just as durable as a proV1 yet only a 60 compression. My driver is a lot straighter when hitting these balls, because I can compresses them.
@@stevencarrier5060 owe and I'm a 3 handicap in my golf league. Trust me The Wilson Duo Professional is a legitimate golf ball. That's $10 to $15 less per dozen than Prov1's.
I dunno. Higher launch and lower spin on the driver. Club head speed was lower with the Bridgestone ball, hence the lower ball speed, no? Didn't he want a ball with a softer feel? I love this channel but this one feels wrong. It's like he was just looking for a reason to play ProV1X.
The Bridgestone is still a premium ball. Need Ronnie to test the Pro-V vs a Srixon Q-Star Tour or Tour Response etc. Is there performance improvement/loss for the significant price difference.
love the stuff you guys post out but this really surprised me. The conviction that he should use that ball was amazing....any very slight gain that could be seen on the GC quad could easily be lost from any issues he may find around the greens with lack of response or feeling from a prov1x. I watched you guys compare shafts/clubs with much better gains that you advise are marginal and could use either club based on strike....love the idea though , would love to see some more comparisons for slower swings
Both Bridgestone Tour B RXS and ProV1 are low compression balls for golfers with high club speed. Would Ronnie benefit from playing lower compression ball as Taylor Made Response or Response Soft? A revers question: Would slower ball speed players would benefit from low prime compression balls?
So looks like we are in new ball testing season? How about taking a look at the OnCore balls? They've got a few different offerings and its been awhile since anyone has even mentioned the brand let alone tested the newer Tour ball they offer.
I gamed the Snell MTB Red a few years ago and it was firm but so consistent for me. The low launch / high spin around the greens gave me so much more control. I just bought some Mizuno RB Tour X and I'm excited to see how I get on with them. My driver speed is around 100mph.
Think I’ll stick to my Bridgestone golf balls. Hate loosing Pro V1’s cause of how much they cost. We got a lot of trees on the course I play here in Nebraska. Still enjoying the videos 👍👍👍.
The TM Tour Response tested (spin and distance) just as well as the TM TP5 & TP5x in TXGs Apr 11, 2020 testing, It's considerably less expensive than Pro Vs and TP5s. They also stated that players with lower swing speeds would probably benefit from the Tour Response. Both the Pro Vs and TPs are way too high compression for us average swing speed players to maximize distance. I personally lose 5-7 yards with mid irons and drivers using high compression balls.
Great show. Ronnie almost exact numbers as me. But I prefer Snell Black or Pro V1... just feel vs Snell MTB-X or Pro-V1x. And I can play any of them...
No. That's a ball marketing myth. If people really prefer a soft feel then yes some of those balls are great. From a performance perspective they offer zero additional benefit other than cost.
Yes both of those balls and the Mizuno RB tour x all can help with spin. Helping the ball stay in the air longer and resulting in longer carry and more stopping power
Both balls performed basically the same. If launch&spin deviations in the driver are down to strike then surely ball speed would be as well, right? 7:24 Anyway, you gave him the "generic Tour ball" to compare with. How about you give him a ball fitting? Is the general recommendation good for him or would he profit from a complete different ball, maybe a super spinny one?
So observant. So glad you asked that question. And yes, you should wear your on-course golf shoes, to a fitting. My coach and I currently testing my footwear. He has SwingCatalyst, which measures Ground Reaction Forces (GRF), (one of the six installations in Canada & Carson is a SwingCatalyst Ambassador). One of the major swing changes we are working on, are aspects relating to my footwork/forces & pressure. Initial testing of me wearing my Ecco shoes (which I wore during the TH-cam filming) vs my Adidas 360 Tour, showed improved GRF results and better ball flight. One of my major flaws is early extension, especially with the longer clubs. The Ecco shoes have less heel to toe drop. I'm about to order on-line one of the True Linkswear shoes. They have models with zero & minimal drop. More shoe testing to come....
The putter would show difference. I tried the Tour RX and it putted poorly compared to the ProV1x. The president of my company told me to go back to Titleist after missing too many putts.
A better test would have been a Srixon distance or similar ball. Not sure I would go with titleist on the results of this test as the difference was minimal.
I did an on course assessment between ProV1x and B-Rxs. My results were similar to this video. There were no consistent differences in the performance on any club. The great majority of shots were within 1-3 yards with both balls. However, when I did pure the shot, the ProV1x did travel further. I like the feel of ProV1x in short game and putting. That was the difference maker for me. I stuck with the ProV1x.
I've only been playing golf for a year (20-25 index now), but today I played the Pro V1x for the first time, and I just SMASHED my drives. I carried 270 average while I usually carry 250. I had the wind with me but still... I totally felt I earned distances. I earned distance on every single drives, on every holes (even when the wind calmed down). My first drive on the first hole might even have been a 280 carry (the wind helped me a bit). Ball was so long I thought it wasn't mine. I was TOTALLY impress (and so were the golfers playing with me, low handicapper seniors). And I usually play Pro V1's (or mid-range balls like Srixon AD333). But the Pro V1x felt like a bomb off the tee. I ordered a dozen right when I got back home. And to be honest I always thought balls tech is some kind of bullshit, but I have to admit that I am now a believer.
I update my comment to tell that I just made my first 300 yards drive (total distance) on the course last week, it was actually a 305 yards drive, and with no wind. (I have one year of golf). And it was perfectly straight ! Ironicaly the ball was a Pro V1. (not the X version). But I still prefer the Pro V1x for the higher launch and the firmer feel.
Other than $20+ price difference. Those Bridgestone balls are on amazon for 22-28$ a dozen all the time, they vary from week to week but just and buy bulk when they go low.
The only test missing is the putting…feeling wise the difference is day/night between these two balls. But it remains both excellent choices. Saw the comparable elsewhere on TH-cam with B RXS vs B RX and B RXS was a clear winner on each vectors despite a low compression and soft feeling vs a 79 compression for B RX
I’ve tried the Bridgestone and it’s a great ball. But I do play a Pro V1x. I do notice it’s hotter off the driver than the Bridgestone. Just got a box of the new Pro V1x’s can’t wait to try them this coming weekend.
I'm surprised by your conclusions the difference was minimal. If you did that test again tomorrow the results could reverse. What I saw was the same numbers with both balls so was surprised you was so conclusive towards the prov1 X. The price difference in the UK is a no brainer the Bridgestone every time.
Ronnie is looking for every percentage point of improvement so the ProV1X is worth the price point (for him), but that is why we post the data so everyone can make their own informed decision
@Tim O'Hagan to a budget golfer maybe not, but you forget golfers are interesting people who will gladly spend $500 on a new driver hoping to gain a few yards. Spending an extra $1 for a golf ball to gain 3+ yards off the tee doesn't seem nearly as outlandish as $500+ for a new driver
@@kourt2469 Yep, I mentioned something similar in another post. Some players just want to know they are getting the absolutely most performance they can get out of their equipment even if it cost a ton for those marginal gains. If they can get 5 more yards from a $500 driver they will pay for it, if a $500 shaft will give them another 5 they will buy that and if another $1 a ball will give them 3 they will certainly spend that too. If you start to add that up they could be gaining 10-15 yards, which is nothing to sneeze at. Would I spend that money? No, but if you have the money and play alot why not try to get as much gains as you can even as minimal as they may seem?
With that said I do question the fact that he would get 3 yards with the ball, based off this small sample there seems to be alot of variables that come into play, perhaps the difference would be wider with more shots or less but just a handful or even a dozen shots wouldn't be enough for me to make a conclusion either way.
@Tim O'Hagan I fully agree here. The Subject of the video 'should a Mid-Handicap play a tour ball' is misleading compared to what the conclusion of the video was. I fully agree that the price is really NOT justified for a mid handicapper. I can hardly see that Ronnie would have gained if even 1 stroke out on the course based on these 2 balls. And we haven't even see him do anything around the green with both balls. I don't know his skill around the green, but most mid handicap golfers will do better with a softer ball around the green. If you take that into account, I even think the conclusion here might be full out wrong.
@TXG Tour Experience Golf : I love your videos, but personally I don't think this one is aimed at a mid-handicap audience and is too shallow for such a certain outcome. Like I said, any play around the green is not taken into account and might flip the review to the complete opposite side...
@Tyler Wengel Thanks, you gave me a reason to re-watch. and I've come away feeling like this was a paid advert for Titleist. The body language, tone and facial expressions on the guys in the conclusion part, just dont match the words. Especially Matt at 8:49 with the nose touch. Apols for getting overly analytical and critiquing the work. I really enjoy TXG's content adn this is not a dis to them. I am probably totally wrong. Even if I'm right then they've got loved ones to feed I'm sure.
This just left me with a nagging feeling the conclusion was that every golfer 'should' play a pro v1 - which is exactly what Titleist preach themselves.
Disappointing bias to Titleist on this test. Made a big point about predictability of spin at 6:39 then completely ignored the fact the Bridgestone had better standard deviations on the next two sets of spin data. You'd have to be stupid to pay the extra for a ProV.
Yes and no mention of the high cost of the Titleist ball either. The difference is so miniscule it could easily be variance in swing. I feel like they are pushing Pro-V1's really hard.
@@primetimegamer0074 Its a shame but I think you're right. Do they honestly think a handicap golfer is going to notice a negligible difference in spin from 100 yards? It is laughable.
I was shocked by their outcome.The difference was so minimal yet their conclusions was so definate.
Definitely the first video where I feel this video could easily be made by any other golf reviewer. I'm not going to say Matt and Ian are getting lazy compared to their humbling beginnings years ago, but this video could have been much better if they tested a handful of balls and did a proper ball fitting for Ronnie. This is an important topic that applies to so many viewers. And they know this so why not do it? Why make a video if you limit it to this subpar comparison? The views? A promise to Titleist? I'm not saying this is a Titleist commercial but go back to @1:05 in the 2021 prov video Matt specifically mentions Titleist marketing how you lose strokes not playing premium balls. And now this video. I get it, Titleist sends free stuff and you need to hold up your end of the bargain to make sure the marketing is in the videos. And everyone wants Rick Shiels status...but I would argue in the past 12 months the OEM influence on txg is more noticeable even if Ian and Matt swear otherwise. The way Ian and Matt spoke about pxg not sending free stuff rubbed me the wrong way recently and this video didn't help.
@@Alex-tl6vz Yes, agree entirely. Very disappointing. They've gone right down in my estimation.
Hey everyone. Ronnie here. Thanks for your comments & perspectives! Wanted to share my thinking re the question ... is the additional cost worth the benefit of a small lift in ball speed for the 7 iron & driver? In Canada, the difference in cost between the RXS & ProV1X is $5/dozen (CDN$). I buy 5 dozen balls /yr (according to Titleist the avg golfer buys 4 dozen balls /yr). That's an additional $25/yr. Or 55 cents /round (I play about 45 rounds/yr.). Is the additional cost worth it? For me, a slow swinging, senior, an easy yes.
I’d be more interested in seeing Ronnie hit something like a Tour Response ($35) vs. TP5/5x ($45). That’s the real test for mid-handicappers.
Tour B RXS is $44.99 in the US compared to $47.99 for the Pro V1x.
All these comments about price. We get it. You only care about price
Just switched to B-RXS & hit my best score ever - love them - used Pro V1 & TP5 before. I play a yellow ball & the Bridgstone yellow is much easier on my eye.
I’m 30 seconds in and it’s my man, Ronnie! I don’t know him from Adam, but every time he’s on the channel I feel like we would be mates.
Love having Ronnie back as many can relate speed and swing wise. Exceedingly valuable information presented and why ball fitting needs to be done. Thanks Ronnie. Well done TXG.
My thoughts exactly. The larger portion of the golf population has swing speeds anywhere from 85-100mph tops. Watching guys with 110-120mph swing speeds does nothing for the average golfer.
Ronnie and I share very much the same numbers, this is exactly the content I need!
The consistency was actually tighter in the Bridgestone on 7i and driver I think right? Tighter in the prov1 on partial and wedge shots.
If it’s that tight, comes down to feel and price.
Excited to see this. I have absolutely fallen in LOVE with the B-RXS. I've tested every premium ball out there and for a slower swing speed player, it does everything I want it to. You still get all the benefits of a premium ball but at a lower compression point allowing me to get the most out of it. When I try things like the TP5 & ProV, I just don't feel like I ever hit it hard enough to get the full performance.
Taylormade Tour Response is giving me the same vibes
Why was the comparison with the pro v1x and not a pro v1 ?
Ron dog an absolute machine on those 50yd pitch shots
He was on fire last week.
MORE RONNIE TESTS !!!
This is SO SIMPLE AND an EASY ANSWER!!!
Any player at ANY LEVEL---- can play whatever BALL THEY WANT--- PERIOD!!
They should not be PERSUADED or talked down to about what about their choice of ball( based on skill level!) EDUCATING without JUDGING is the PROBLEM, just GIVE the FACTUAL INFO( that is hard for golf companies and REVIEWERS to DO -- honesty, not marketing, not HYPE!)!!!!
It is a GOOD thing that players of ALL LEVELS --TRY -- different kinds of golf balls! They WILL LEARN -- through their OWN experimenting --- what works best for them!!!
I can remember when I first learned to play, I could NOT FEEL the difference between golf balls; after practicing more and MORE TIME-- I began to get different sleeves from different balls, as I grew more comfortable with my set of clubs --- THEN I could feel the difference!!
It was TIME and FEEL for MY CLUBS---- NOT the LEVEL I played at!!!!!
YOUR JOB---- is JUST--- FACTUAL, NO HYPE --- TRUTH about how the ball feels and flies!!!
YOUR education is very helpful ( when done RIGHT!) with the CAVEAT----- ALL players will have a DIFFERENT FEEL for the ball !!!!
Just keep it REAL guys, just the facts, NOT what the golf companies WANT to have INFLUENCE over!!!
Thank you for the mid-handicap perspective. Keep'em coming.
Wouldn’t the pro v1 be the ball you’d use to compare the B rxs with? Isn’t the pro v1x more comparable to the B rx?
Loves these videos with Ronnie. So practical for the average player. Thanks.
Curious why the comparison between the RXS (high spin for the model) versus V1x (low spin for the model?
For the price difference why would you choose titliest ? 2 yrds for 20 quid extra 😂🙈 no thanks , consistency was marginal
In the US it’s only a $3.00 difference. For that, I’d say it’s worth it.
I thought it was only about a $5 difference, Bridgestone is $45 and Titleist is $50.
How about Snell which depending on qty you can get for either $31 or $26 if you buy 5 doz
I use Vice Pros and they are great
I think the point of the video, although they didn't spell it out very well, was that it doesn't make sense for lower swing speed players to play a low compression golf ball, regardless of brand. They could have done the same test with a Srixon Z-star or any other tour level ball and found similar results.
I wouldn't necessarily agree with results it really all depends on feel off the club around greens and especially putting ... There was very little between them on the stats ...
It was the Titleist tour soft that I used to get my first hole in one November 2020
a $4,000 dollar pair of shoes with good spikes can get you at least .5 cm gain in distance for all clubs. So, it's worth it for the high, mid, low handicapper.
Definitely want to see more ball testing with Ronnie! Would really like to see him try lower price balls. Maybe something like Super soft vs Q star tour.
@Erik.
Exactly, the numbers won't change dramatically with different balls.
Playing a premium ball won't make a high handicapper a better golfer.
He was swinging 1.5 mph faster when hitting prov 1x (with Driver) which it turn should give him more ball speed...Not worth the money difference for me.
this is not necessarily true. It comes down to compression off the face. If a long driver hits a ball with something like a 70 compression ball his ball speeds will be down because the ball sits on the face longer and doesn't transfer the energy as efficiently. This is exactly why long drivers hit 110 compression balls so it spends the optimal amount of time on the face and efficiently transfers energy. This is also why range balls are usually around 70 compression.
I bet he could hit a yellow ball 1/16th of an inch further. Maybe he should get tested for colors.
colour me confused... if efficiency was the same (on driver) at 1.46 the increase in ball speed on the pro v1x must surely be down to the club head speed being 1.2mph faster (i.e 86.9 vs 85.7)
Was wondering the same
Yep. Ian doesn't address this.
It is his efficiency from his “best drive with pro v1x” in that particular frame, he might have actually had a higher efficiency with the pro v1 x as an average and just had one swing where his club speed jumped.
Granted, I agree it’s a little fishy. Most people would see this and think the Bridgestone is pretty good for the money
No offense to the boys but all these golf review channels could use some basic statistics courses. If you equate the swing speeds of the two balls (Ronnie swung harder at the ProV) the higher launch and lower spin of the Bridgestone would actually give him a few extra yards of distance at that swing speed. Lower spin off the driver will play a bit better into the wind and the higher launch will benefit more with the wind.
@@johnnypenso9574 the hardest thing about these is they don't show real world results. One of The main factors in flight is dimple patterns which you can't test in a simulator, not that there really is a great way to test that anyways unless you have some sort of wind tunnel or something. Slightly more spin can very easily come from strike location or club face angle as much as it can from type of ball. Basically most balls in the same category tend to perform so closely on simulator testing.
The man is incredibly accurate both distance and deviation from flag. No wonder you use him in your tests. I think it boils down to, if you can afford the best ball then play it. Most of us play golf for fun, not to save $1 a ball.
Ronnie is a Legend... What a great camera presence!
Thank you for this. Examining how a 90/95 ss delivery can be affected by all the options that are available is useful for many. And, Ronnie, wow man, your swing is coming along beautifully.
Great to see Ronnie back. Hope you are all keeping well.
my gripe with this is he always hit the bridgestone first by the time he got to his 6th shot with the prov1x he had a better feel for the shot. His swing was more consistent for those last three shots with the prov1x where he had the swing feel.
I'm a golfer who prefers the feel of a soft golf ball. If I was deciding between the balls, I probable would go with the softer feeling Bridgestone since the distance drop off is marginal with the driver. Side by side, with a putter, I suspect the Bridgestone will feel miles softer than the Pro V1x.
That's where I'm at. I'm a 5 handicap with a little more speed than Ronnie but not much. Shortish hitter still. I played the Pro V1x for a year and loved the performance but didn't love the hard feel, although I got used to it. Went to the RXs last year and much prefer the softer feel. I still think the V1x spins a little more on irons and full wedges for me but after seeing this video, I'm not sure the trade off in feel is worth it to switch from the RXs now.
I wished they'd tested using a mid-range ball like Taylor Made Tour Response or Titleist Tour Soft...something with a bigger price gap.
I have been playing the Titleist tour soft. I am a senior, 72 y/o with a relatively slow swing speed. I like the ball but I do want to try the TM tour response.
This is what I was expecting them to test it against. I don't like to say anything negative about their videos cause I love them all but I found this video to have a misleading title at the least. I consider a Bridgestone BRXS a "tour ball" (it's for slower swing speeds but it's still priced in the tour ball catebory), so I thought they'd compare a "tour ball" vs. a mid tier ball like the ones you mentioned.
This is what I was going to say....not sure how they are saying a $50/dozen is a mid range ball....
And a good low-end ball like the Srixon AD333. I personally doubt a mid handicapper will see much difference.
More impressed how well his drives still are going in comparison to former drive vs shaft changed drive.
I just struggle to get past how clicky the firmer balls are. I currently play the Tour B XS, i just love how it fees across the bag.
Thanks again for a great video guys. Much love from Australia.
You guys need to review the Wilson Duo Professional golf ball. It's a high end ball with a low 60 compression. Straighter off the tee and spins more around the green than Prov1's.
I think they did review it on a multi ball review a while ago? Maybe with the project A TM ball. I think. Do you play with it? And do you recommend it?
Also, what's your driver club head speed / driver distance? I'm thinking of using the duo myself. I do like soft balls! 😂. I use supersoft and love the feel. Especially with putting and chipping.
That is exactly why I only play the “premium” balls out of those that I find.
That was funny!
yeh, more bang for their buck !
Ronnie's back! It's a good day. And swinging great.
Love this test. I would love as much average-speed testing as you can do, as these numbers are pretty close to mine. Bridgestone did extremely well in the 85 mph categories in both the MGS and the Today's Golfer ball tests, as I recall - in driving and mid-irons. The B-RX in particular.
Looking forward to this one , as a 13 hcap player my ball of choice has been for the last 3 years the Bridgestone B RXS ball, I think it a brilliant ball , very consistent in feel and distance and good spin and £££ :) so underrated brand and ball 😀. Go matty and Ian and RONNIE The rocket 🚀 the average golfer super tester.
I'd suggest you to look at Srixon's too. I've used Titleist's and Bridgestone's in the past, but ever since i tried Srixon Z-Star, it has been my go to. The price isn't bad either.
I love your shows! so happy to have found you guys. this show hit home for me as i just finished a wide range ball test myself. BRX, ProV1x and also e12 Speed and Soft.
My index is 7.2 and I've been playing for 47 years - just turned 57. Muscling the ball getting much harder ;)
I live in Seattle where golf temps range from low 40's to 80's. But, normal golf temp is upper 50's to low 60's. I wanted to know what distance I was leaving on the table, if any, with V1x. My personal tests were outdoors on the course in temps from 42F to 54F.
The results were clear. e12 Soft and Speed were 20+ yards longer than BRX and 30 longer than V1x. Stopping a ball in this region is never an issue so spin would only worry me 5% of the rounds.
I took this same test to La Quinta in 70-75 degree temps. Results were different. Now the Speed/Soft only minimally out distanced BRX and V1x. But, again the V1x came up at about 10 yards shorter w/ driver and about a half club on mid-long irons.
In my tests it was clear that the spin of the V1x was higher. Less roll on drives, irons pulled back.
Price would be King between BRX and V1x. And if it's outdoors and cool the softer balls clearly beat the tour balls.
I'd be so interested to see you guys have Matt put this type of ball comparison test together.
Again you guys are smashingly fun and helpful to watch - keep it go'n!
I liked the test. Given how close the numbers were, it’s hard to give the nod to the pro V1X given the $/performance for Ron. Funny, I assumed the performance gains would be seen in the wedges. I game the Pro V1X when I can and I typically stock up when they go on sale (usually around the holidays)- takes the sting out of paying full retail.
I love to play the ProV1...nothing feels like them putting and around the greens. They also sound and feel great off the club face from wedges to driver. Thanks Ronnie and the guys for the videos!
And that's the point. You found your ball. Play it. I hate that ball because I loose more prov1's and x than any other ball. At four bucks a ball my 12 handicap isn't worth it.
@@aliensarereal7832 yea, I have since gone to the Costco Kirkland ball. WAY less expensive and I am with you...at my handicap they are not worth the money.
@@markk171 Have you tried the Vice pro and the pro plus. I spent about 500 bucks this year testing most of the balls out there for the fun of it and that is the one ball that caught my attention the most. Still pricey at $30 a dozen but I buy mine mint for half the price.
@@aliensarereal7832 Yep tried the Vice, a bunch of Callaway, TaylorMade...but for me...the Costco Kirkland performed as well as any and at $25 for 2 dozen balls...what a deal!
@@markk171 Good choice. I buy those mint also for 75 cents to a buck. I really like those also. The fact that you play a kirkland after playing a pro v1 shows that your intelligent. You probably have a really good game. Thanks for responding.
Great to see 🚀 Ronnie back on the channel and looking fit & healthy👍
To me that looked like the results between both were very negligible.... Either one would work.....for me with those numbers it would completely come down to cost.
With these numbers and from what I’ve heard about the soft feel around the green with the Bridgestone B RX I think I would lean towards the Bridgestone. Just my opinion
Love your guys' technical look at the game of golf. Excellent video.
Would be great to see you test the Bridgestone “R” balls vs the tour b x and tour b xs to see if the Bridgestone marketing is right on them fitting different swing speeds or if everyone should play the former balls.
Great video..any chance you guys can do the same test with a high handicap player like myself..20+
The results demonstrate that there is very little difference between the balls; a great deal more importance must be attributed to the consistency of a club player’s swing.
It’s difficult to agree with the conclusion as I think club head speed and strike might have played a big role is the extra speed gained from ProV X
no way can you say the Pro V1x is better by that test, absolutely nothing in it. Only thing separating those 2 balls is price. I have both in my bag at the moment, the biggest difference for me is the Pro V1x is very clicky and a brick off the putter.
What about mis-hits? Which slice/hook more? What’s the most forgiving ball for mid handicaper?
Ronnie and I are of similar age and swing speed and I have always been playing ProV1x. Especially since the MyGolfSpy test. I've been pretty much a Titleist guy since the '60's.
Very interesting.... I play the RXS because I love a very soft feeling ball and have played the soft Bridgestone ball for 10 years. Looks like I should do some ball testing to see of I can get more speed but also have a soft feel.
To give you an idea of how I love a soft feel with my wedges and putting, I love the feel of the Wilson low compressing balls with my wedges, they feel fantastic. I don't play them as they do not suit my long game with a driver speed of abiut 102 mph.
I’d like to see the comparison of these vs an e6 or e12 as well. Just to get an idea. I struggle with the same bc I like the ProV1 with the irons and wedges/putter, but feel like I need the extra distance with the e6.
As a mid-high handicap I was playing a Wilson dou soft, which I love when it comes to putting. Switched last year to a Srixon Z star. Would be interesting to see what kinda numbers Ronnie would get with the dou soft versus a premium ball.
I understand wanting to get every last bit of ball speed for Ronnie, but I seem to recall him aspiring to higher ball flights... With all the rest of the data being so similar, I thought the launch/ ball height might be more of a consideration?
You're right, peak height very important for me.
@@rp6163 I know the test was designed to be an experiment about slower swingers using firmer golf balls, so maybe there is another firm premium ball that launches higher than ProV1 X.... More testing required I guess 😁
Thanks for bringing Jackie back for us! Great video as these are the irons im going to test this season as well.
Can you do a piece on balls that are balanced with a ball spinner and compare the accuracy, performance etc.?
Ian and Matt I see a few dissenters out there thinking you guys are advertising Titleist. One thing I noticed was Ronnie swinging harder at the 1X . I play both Titleist and Bridgestone, the V1 and V1X feel like bricks so it's Bridgestone for me as they are pretty much identical in performance. Keep up the good work guys the ball testing is great as that's the one part of your game that you can chop and change much more easily cheers.
The spin dispersion on his 7 iron was far better with the Bridgestone and he was swinging a bit faster with his driver when hitting the ProV1 so it is hard for me to see how it would be worth the extra dollars for what was basically a toss-up.
I am a 13.1 handicap, did a similar test last year. Flight scoped and played comparative practice rounds with all the balls in the recommended range for my handicap and above.
There were a few odd cases where I performed very well with a super low compression, slow swing speed ball: Wilson 50 Elite was one. But after time putting, chipping, pitching, sand, irons, and woods. Of the balls I tested I found the same thing. The "Tour Ball" ... Srixon Z-Star XV did what fit my game MORE than anything else.
The firmer balls had far more forgiveness and less variance in my long play and spun more in my short game by a large amount (mostly due to the higher quality cover materials). The tour balls also performed better in poor conditions like wet, damp, windy, etc. (Except cold, the lower-compression tour balls like Pro V1, Z-Star and Chrome Soft were better on distance in colder weather).
The point of this novel is, watch the vids then do your own testing and make sure to remember that HOW YOU PLAY is important, WHAT YOU WANT FROM YOUR GAME is important. Not what's on the box.
Been playing 2 years. No ball will do it for me, but working my butt off to get to a 10 handicap this year.
Looks like we'll have to find a new tester soon. Ronnie will be a scratch players after this season from what I'm seeing with his improved ballstriking. Great to see Ronnie again.
RXS slightly better on wedges, Pro V1X slightly better on 7 iron. I think RXS wins on driver due to lower spin and higher launch for slower swing speeds. VERY disappointed that you showed bias in declaring Pro V1X the clear winner.
what about the same player playing the B-RX and a B-XS (Tiger's Ball)? Are you just getting a firmer feel with the B-XS or will there be a difference in performance?
That would be a great test also!!
Would love to see you delve into more detail in the short game area. 5 yard chip, pitch over bunker, pin at the back of the green, pin at the front of the green etc. Great video as always!
Would this apply to Bridgestone’s X ball as well? Like Ronnie, I put stock in the ball test from a few years ago that seemed to indicate Bridgestone was a great ball in terms of manufacturing consistency, etc...
We definitely have more Bridgestone ball testing coming at various speeds.
Who doesn’t love a video with Ronnie! Well done chaps.
Swing is looking good Ronnie!! Keep up the improvement!! Great test Ian and Matt!!
Whoa - Ronnie is a machine - well done
Great idea! Been trying to get my buddy to drop the entry level balls and move into a premium ball. Would like to see you compare a low end/entry level ball (top flight xl distance, taylormade distance +, etc) to a premium ball.
How would the Bridgestone Tour BX golf ball compare to the 2021 Titleist Pro V1 for a mid handicap golfer? This would be a test I would be greatly interested in if you can make it happen one day. Thank you & keep up the good work.
I hope the boys dial up 🚀 Ronnie for post comments on this one. Set your Reminders Let’s Go! 👍
Looking forward to this one. I've always wondered if the compression of a golf ball really mattered to the average swing speed player. Thank you TXG!
Try the Wilson Duo Professional golf bell. It has a lower compression rate of 60. Plays great at lower swing speeds and actually spins better around the greens than the Prov1.
@@poker4400 you have a video link? I played the old duo. I liked it. I’d like to see spin numbers.
@@stevencarrier5060 I don't but I played them all year last year. My golf partner for league plays the Prov1's. At his swing speed he compresses them just fine. He hits PW 155 with blades. Even he admitted they spin less off the tee with driver and more on chip shots around the green. He now uses them in cold weather when he can't compress the Prov1's. They are a three piece ball with a urethane cover. Just as durable as a proV1 yet only a 60 compression. My driver is a lot straighter when hitting these balls, because I can compresses them.
@@stevencarrier5060 owe and I'm a 3 handicap in my golf league. Trust me The Wilson Duo Professional is a legitimate golf ball. That's $10 to $15 less per dozen than Prov1's.
@@poker4400 do you feel like you lose anything with it? Short or long game?
I dunno. Higher launch and lower spin on the driver. Club head speed was lower with the Bridgestone ball, hence the lower ball speed, no? Didn't he want a ball with a softer feel? I love this channel but this one feels wrong. It's like he was just looking for a reason to play ProV1X.
The Bridgestone is still a premium ball. Need Ronnie to test the Pro-V vs a Srixon Q-Star Tour or Tour Response etc. Is there performance improvement/loss for the significant price difference.
love the stuff you guys post out but this really surprised me. The conviction that he should use that ball was amazing....any very slight gain that could be seen on the GC quad could easily be lost from any issues he may find around the greens with lack of response or feeling from a prov1x. I watched you guys compare shafts/clubs with much better gains that you advise are marginal and could use either club based on strike....love the idea though , would love to see some more comparisons for slower swings
Both Bridgestone Tour B RXS and ProV1 are low compression balls for golfers with high club speed. Would Ronnie benefit from playing lower compression ball as Taylor Made Response or Response Soft? A revers question: Would slower ball speed players would benefit from low prime compression balls?
So looks like we are in new ball testing season? How about taking a look at the OnCore balls? They've got a few different offerings and its been awhile since anyone has even mentioned the brand let alone tested the newer Tour ball they offer.
I gamed the Snell MTB Red a few years ago and it was firm but so consistent for me. The low launch / high spin around the greens gave me so much more control. I just bought some Mizuno RB Tour X and I'm excited to see how I get on with them. My driver speed is around 100mph.
Great information. Love to see guys like this on the channel.
Think I’ll stick to my Bridgestone golf balls. Hate loosing Pro V1’s cause of how much they cost. We got a lot of trees on the course I play here in Nebraska. Still enjoying the videos 👍👍👍.
The TM Tour Response tested (spin and distance) just as well as the TM TP5 & TP5x in TXGs Apr 11, 2020 testing, It's considerably less expensive than Pro Vs and TP5s. They also stated that players with lower swing speeds would probably benefit from the Tour Response. Both the Pro Vs and TPs are way too high compression for us average swing speed players to maximize distance. I personally lose 5-7 yards with mid irons and drivers using high compression balls.
Great show. Ronnie almost exact numbers as me. But I prefer Snell Black or Pro V1... just feel vs Snell MTB-X or Pro-V1x. And I can play any of them...
wouldn't a softer ball be better suited for his swing speed, callaway supersoft or titleist trusoft?
softer - lower compression.....
No. That's a ball marketing myth. If people really prefer a soft feel then yes some of those balls are great. From a performance perspective they offer zero additional benefit other than cost.
@@ianfrasergolf Thanks!
@@dogsarefun2 👍🏻
Gotta be an Autoflex test with Ronnie!
Yes both of those balls and the Mizuno RB tour x all can help with spin. Helping the ball stay in the air longer and resulting in longer carry and more stopping power
Excited for this one!
Ronnie swinging it awesome. Great to see ⛳️
Both balls performed basically the same. If launch&spin deviations in the driver are down to strike then surely ball speed would be as well, right? 7:24
Anyway, you gave him the "generic Tour ball" to compare with. How about you give him a ball fitting? Is the general recommendation good for him or would he profit from a complete different ball, maybe a super spinny one?
Does he wear those shoes when he golfs?? My understanding is I should be wearing my actual golf shoes for fittings? this true?
So observant. So glad you asked that question. And yes, you should wear your on-course golf shoes, to a fitting.
My coach and I currently testing my footwear. He has SwingCatalyst, which measures Ground Reaction Forces (GRF), (one of the six installations in Canada & Carson is a SwingCatalyst Ambassador). One of the major swing changes we are working on, are aspects relating to my footwork/forces & pressure. Initial testing of me wearing my Ecco shoes (which I wore during the TH-cam filming) vs my Adidas 360 Tour, showed improved GRF results and better ball flight. One of my major flaws is early extension, especially with the longer clubs. The Ecco shoes have less heel to toe drop. I'm about to order on-line one of the True Linkswear shoes. They have models with zero & minimal drop. More shoe testing to come....
they're Ecco golf shoes, spikeless
The putter would show difference. I tried the Tour RX and it putted poorly compared to the ProV1x. The president of my company told me to go back to Titleist after missing too many putts.
A better test would have been a Srixon distance or similar ball. Not sure I would go with titleist on the results of this test as the difference was minimal.
I did an on course assessment between ProV1x and B-Rxs. My results were similar to this video. There were no consistent differences in the performance on any club. The great majority of shots were within 1-3 yards with both balls. However, when I did pure the shot, the ProV1x did travel further. I like the feel of ProV1x in short game and putting. That was the difference maker for me. I stuck with the ProV1x.
Looked like he gets closer to the target line with Bridgestone. Is the 2 yards worth missing a tight fairway?
I've only been playing golf for a year (20-25 index now), but today I played the Pro V1x for the first time, and I just SMASHED my drives. I carried 270 average while I usually carry 250. I had the wind with me but still... I totally felt I earned distances. I earned distance on every single drives, on every holes (even when the wind calmed down). My first drive on the first hole might even have been a 280 carry (the wind helped me a bit). Ball was so long I thought it wasn't mine. I was TOTALLY impress (and so were the golfers playing with me, low handicapper seniors). And I usually play Pro V1's (or mid-range balls like Srixon AD333). But the Pro V1x felt like a bomb off the tee. I ordered a dozen right when I got back home. And to be honest I always thought balls tech is some kind of bullshit, but I have to admit that I am now a believer.
I update my comment to tell that I just made my first 300 yards drive (total distance) on the course last week, it was actually a 305 yards drive, and with no wind. (I have one year of golf). And it was perfectly straight !
Ironicaly the ball was a Pro V1. (not the X version). But I still prefer the Pro V1x for the higher launch and the firmer feel.
Other than $20+ price difference. Those Bridgestone balls are on amazon for 22-28$ a dozen all the time, they vary from week to week but just and buy bulk when they go low.
I see them on Amazon for $44-48 have they gone up in price
The only test missing is the putting…feeling wise the difference is day/night between these two balls. But it remains both excellent choices. Saw the comparable elsewhere on TH-cam with B RXS vs B RX and B RXS was a clear winner on each vectors despite a low compression and soft feeling vs a 79 compression for B RX
I’ve tried the Bridgestone and it’s a great ball. But I do play a Pro V1x. I do notice it’s hotter off the driver than the Bridgestone. Just got a box of the new Pro V1x’s can’t wait to try them this coming weekend.
Would love to see this with the Srixon AD333. So called best selling ball in the UK
Same here, it is by far the best ball for $20.
I'm heavily considering the i230s. Thanks for the vid