T-80UD has a weaker AFP than T80. 50/35/50 vs 50/50/50 with the same textolit thicknesses. But overall it is just a bit weaker T80U on a full 1.0 lover.
Feel it's a solid 10.3 vehicle. T-90A mobility with worse survivability, worse shell, and a better reload. Should be noted that the T-80UD and T-90A both have HP/T ratios sitting at 21.7:1 while Abrams is sitting at 27.3:1 (25.6:1 for M1A1 and 26.7:1 for M1IP). So the mobility is going to be worse overall without even talking about the reverse gear. Continues the trend of NATO having the mobility edge while Russia has the armor edge (Not that it matters much with decent aim).
@@reinyfrost3753 That's your opinion to hold. But I feel it's just a tradeoff. You have better reload and armor, but lack the mobility and reverse gear. That and T-80B's armor isn't even that bad. Your UFP is still safe from 105mm DM33 and 120mm DM23. Not that anyone with a brain is going to shoot anywhere frontally besides breach/barrel, drivers hatch, or LFP. Some prefer the armor, I prefer the mobility and thermals. Don't really think either one will be objectively better then the other
the -4 reverse completely killed it for me. i was hoping for a new Russian top tier premium with two digits reverse speed. i guess gaijin thinks another -4 premium is a great idea.
@@armoured_potato Thermals or not, its not enough to justify a whole br difference, if they really cant raise the ud to higher than 10.3, then drop the swedish u to a lower br too or something
The premium doesn't have access to 3BM46, has 4km/h reverse speed and no thermals. The only things it has better than the turms is the upper front plate armour and a little bit of forward speed. Idk, it's kinda a worse Obj 292. Edit: so, comparing it to the Turms; - same round as the Turms - more armour on the front - less armour on the sides - no thermals comparing to gen. 2 on the turms - probably a little faster forward, same reverse speed So, it's a turms that trades thermals for speed and a stronger UFP only IF they don't nerff the UPF.
To be fair, Russia has been nerfed quite a lot, for example T64A, although it says A, but it's more of a mix between base and A, because the A variant was upgraded to the new fire control system (Which included gen 1 thermals and a laser range finder, which the in-game variant lacks for whatever reason, museums attest to this), along with mounting the new 2A26 gun, and also, despite lacking all those it's somehow an equal to T-72 despite it coming out almost an entire DECADE later? (like damn, is 10 years so little to the devs? lets put Tiger 1 and 2 at same tier, afterall, 10 years is nothing right?), or how tunguska lacks apds which it has per factory specifications, or how IS-4M driver's hatch has 1mm effective?? And all this shows with russia being 3rd most populated, and having the worst win rate of all countries (below 46% in some instances), while countries like germany have wr of upwards 76%, only taking a dip to 53% at 6.7 ... For real, if you can't fight such a hyper nerfed country, it's pretty much massive skill issue.
i dont think having a diesel that still give it good mobility mean it should be 10.0 considering u literally have a t80u armor bruh and uh a bit of correction,the swedish t80u does have thermal,1st gen for gunner
"accidentally to low" No, Sorry, it happens so often (premiums and "reward" vehicles) it just has to be a deliberate ploy to encourage people to spend $
Friendly reminder that with the constant up tiers that people experience: the XM-1 will be facing this. Can't wait for the "it will be fine comments", then the update is gonna drop, every team will be littered with these, and it will be a complete steamroll against whatever they face.
USSR just received the object for a event vehicle and they are getting a slower t80u at 10.0 premium you could buy an entire lineup of premiums and event vehicles meanwhile America will still have these one spawning m1 kvts that maybe have the losat
Yeah, i was so hyped when i saw my favorite t80 variant coming to the game but dissappointed after i found out its a premium. I dont have the money to buy this tank.
Mid Tank so 10.0 when I think about it, makes sense. It’s just the Kontact 5 that I see would make people rage about its rating (despite the T-72 1989 also having it). But regardless of if it had it people would call it “OP” it could even be firing literally frozen peas.
To me, the T-80UD is pretty much the same thing as the T-72B (1989). Same ammo, same gun, shit mobility, no thermals, the T-80 has a more exposed carousel even. Same weakspots.... Why are people even complaining about it? Because it's Russian? Because it's a premium? Or is it because it's a Russian premium😂? If this has to go to 10.3, raise the BR of the T-72B '89 too. However, I'm sad it's a premium because I can't grind it now :( And I'm 100% not paying them any money.
The T-72B (1989) has really good armour, and I can see it being 10.3. However, the T-80UD has a 6.5s reload (instead of the usual 7.1s reload at this BR), and 1000 HP instead of 840 HP. This gives it better acceleration than the T-72B (1989). I can see it being 10.7, as it's pretty much just a better T-80B.
@@GrinXpedia T-72B (1989) does not get thermals, nor extra mobility. T-80B's mobility is nice, I admit that, but the thermals don't really help that much, since most maps are close-range anyways. They are only really useful for long-range maps.
you still can 1 shot if no matter where you shot when it pens so its still meh apds is nothing crazy no thermal its a bit faster than turms but its still nothing crazy ngl
T-80UD has a weaker AFP than T80. 50/35/50 vs 50/50/50 with the same textolit thicknesses. But overall it is just a bit weaker T80U on a full 1.0 lover.
this may just be a model inconsistency just like the vt4 was on the dev server last big update or the leopard 2a7v?
Feel it's a solid 10.3 vehicle. T-90A mobility with worse survivability, worse shell, and a better reload. Should be noted that the T-80UD and T-90A both have HP/T ratios sitting at 21.7:1 while Abrams is sitting at 27.3:1 (25.6:1 for M1A1 and 26.7:1 for M1IP). So the mobility is going to be worse overall without even talking about the reverse gear. Continues the trend of NATO having the mobility edge while Russia has the armor edge (Not that it matters much with decent aim).
10.7, since the T-80B is just worse than this lol.
@@reinyfrost3753 That's your opinion to hold. But I feel it's just a tradeoff. You have better reload and armor, but lack the mobility and reverse gear. That and T-80B's armor isn't even that bad. Your UFP is still safe from 105mm DM33 and 120mm DM23. Not that anyone with a brain is going to shoot anywhere frontally besides breach/barrel, drivers hatch, or LFP. Some prefer the armor, I prefer the mobility and thermals. Don't really think either one will be objectively better then the other
Yeah I see it being a solid 10.3
It’s got some valid trade offs with the T-80B.
@@Registered_Simp T80B also has thermals, which the T80UD doesn't.
15:50 I think it is škoda Octavia 2010
Its first gen octavia
@@Doman9191yea my Dad had that exact one I think year 1999 :D
Smh... as if 10.0 for Russia wasn't crappy enough.
“crappy”
10.0 just sucks hard for every nation, premium tier 🤢
@@Optimusprime56241 crappy in terms of quality of players not tanks
@@shahramtondkarmobarakie1824 exactly this, the tanks are absolutely awesome to play but the players is just an entirely different subject.
Us mains in shambles rn
the -4 reverse completely killed it for me. i was hoping for a new Russian top tier premium with two digits reverse speed. i guess gaijin thinks another -4 premium is a great idea.
Hey Stalin said not one step back, bro
If we're lucky they might add Ukrainian T-80 derivative which has reverse speed of NATO tank
pack it up boys back to 5.7 we go
I just like how it looks from the rear, but since I have unlocked every single russian tank, no way I'm getting it.
10.3 seems like where it'll go
This is the dev server
Какое 10.3. т80уд и так попадает постоянно на 10.7 к type90, который лучше буквально во всём. Этой параше максимум 9.3 бо
Small correction: The Swedish T-80U do have thermal.
My mistake, thanks for clarifying 🙏
@@armoured_potato Thermals or not, its not enough to justify a whole br difference, if they really cant raise the ud to higher than 10.3, then drop the swedish u to a lower br too or something
Thermals are actually huge.
It's basically the T-72B 1989
The premium doesn't have access to 3BM46, has 4km/h reverse speed and no thermals. The only things it has better than the turms is the upper front plate armour and a little bit of forward speed. Idk, it's kinda a worse Obj 292.
Edit: so, comparing it to the Turms;
- same round as the Turms
- more armour on the front
- less armour on the sides
- no thermals comparing to gen. 2 on the turms
- probably a little faster forward, same reverse speed
So, it's a turms that trades thermals for speed and a stronger UFP only IF they don't nerff the UPF.
For reference, the T-80UD currently sits at a lower br than the T-80B when the UD is objectively better in everyway
Are you serious? Without thermal, slower than regular t80, 4 km/h reverse speed. It is a bit better(maybe) than turms, but it worse than t-80b
It still in dev server bro, hold your yapping for some other day
Nice Vid! I might plan to bought t80ud for my ussr grind, I wonder how t64b still good at this br? Can you do some?
To be fair, Russia has been nerfed quite a lot, for example T64A, although it says A, but it's more of a mix between base and A, because the A variant was upgraded to the new fire control system (Which included gen 1 thermals and a laser range finder, which the in-game variant lacks for whatever reason, museums attest to this), along with mounting the new 2A26 gun, and also, despite lacking all those it's somehow an equal to T-72 despite it coming out almost an entire DECADE later? (like damn, is 10 years so little to the devs? lets put Tiger 1 and 2 at same tier, afterall, 10 years is nothing right?), or how tunguska lacks apds which it has per factory specifications, or how IS-4M driver's hatch has 1mm effective?? And all this shows with russia being 3rd most populated, and having the worst win rate of all countries (below 46% in some instances), while countries like germany have wr of upwards 76%, only taking a dip to 53% at 6.7 ... For real, if you can't fight such a hyper nerfed country, it's pretty much massive skill issue.
nice video. I would lower the bass and general volume of your voice and increase ingame sounds:)
i dont think having a diesel that still give it good mobility mean it should be 10.0 considering u literally have a t80u armor bruh
and uh a bit of correction,the swedish t80u does have thermal,1st gen for gunner
New maps as well?
tbh this is probably the LOUDEST T80 ever since the Gas Turbine sound Change
Lovely, i love urban maps and the new one looks amazing
And to belive there are more ppl than youd imagine complaing that this tank is too nerfed
What is better? T72AV+ 2s38 or T72AV + T80UD
Maybe T-80UD, as it would be more straight-forward to play
My man.... the T-80U in the swedish tech tree gets everything the standard T-80U has except for the 3bm46. So it does get thermals.
T80U in sweden does have thermals
Can you pls try the m60-2000?
im so excited for the 400th t-80
it’s pretty much just a T72B 89 but a little fatter
Its gonna be pack or normal premium?
It will be a GE premium
I hope too that the dead tanks would not make sounds
9:58 yes a lot of us do, some of us are blind af :'c
"accidentally to low" No, Sorry, it happens so often (premiums and "reward" vehicles) it just has to be a deliberate ploy to encourage people to spend $
Friendly reminder that with the constant up tiers that people experience: the XM-1 will be facing this. Can't wait for the "it will be fine comments", then the update is gonna drop, every team will be littered with these, and it will be a complete steamroll against whatever they face.
USSR just received the object for a event vehicle and they are getting a slower t80u at 10.0 premium you could buy an entire lineup of premiums and event vehicles meanwhile America will still have these one spawning m1 kvts that maybe have the losat
why is that a premium there are already enough
Yeah, i was so hyped when i saw my favorite t80 variant coming to the game but dissappointed after i found out its a premium. I dont have the money to buy this tank.
@@lada_niva_1.7i Fr men it is also my favorite T-80 and now i am so dissappointed
@@lada_niva_1.7i and its also so unnecessary too because there is already the Turms at the same BR which is even better than that
Can the commander operate the gun?
Yes, it has commander override
Mid Tank so 10.0 when I think about it, makes sense. It’s just the Kontact 5 that I see would make people rage about its rating (despite the T-72 1989 also having it). But regardless of if it had it people would call it “OP” it could even be firing literally frozen peas.
We need more tech tree vehicles not premiums, just makes it easier for some low level idiot to screw his whole team.
You are speaking facts about this game though
Meanwhile PzBtl123 and Christian II...
Yes, it's russian bias when a German premium sits at 55% win rate.
10.3 if they add thermals if not meh
How much it will cost?
69.99
@@cookiecracker2no its 9.2k ge
its 9.2k ge
@@imchromeplayer3310 which sounds incredibly sensible as a thing to buy during sales if you already own 2s38(same price)
The sound thing I don’t mind, you really shouldn’t be able to use sound to find other tanks.
Another "biased vehc" also him on video didnt penetrating IS-2 from WW2 XDDDDDDD i love that
This,2S38,Turms and the 282
German 4.3 ☠
My 10.0 lineup he's at least 10.3 anyway...
Bro what are you talking about if its too under br ed what are you not talking about the t72b 1989 its basically the same thing
No? The T-72b has a slower reload, less horsepower, and slightly worse armor. This tank belongs at 10.3, as do the 292, Strela, Sprut, and Su-25
To me, the T-80UD is pretty much the same thing as the T-72B (1989). Same ammo, same gun, shit mobility, no thermals, the T-80 has a more exposed carousel even. Same weakspots.... Why are people even complaining about it?
Because it's Russian?
Because it's a premium?
Or is it because it's a Russian premium😂?
If this has to go to 10.3, raise the BR of the T-72B '89 too. However, I'm sad it's a premium because I can't grind it now :( And I'm 100% not paying them any money.
The T-72B (1989) has really good armour, and I can see it being 10.3. However, the T-80UD has a 6.5s reload (instead of the usual 7.1s reload at this BR), and 1000 HP instead of 840 HP. This gives it better acceleration than the T-72B (1989). I can see it being 10.7, as it's pretty much just a better T-80B.
@@reinyfrost3753its actually a sidegrade
you lose thermals and mobility to get more armor and better reload
@@GrinXpedia T-72B (1989) does not get thermals, nor extra mobility.
T-80B's mobility is nice, I admit that, but the thermals don't really help that much, since most maps are close-range anyways. They are only really useful for long-range maps.
10.0 is nuts
And America is stuck with a m1 abrams at that br 😂 they need to move the m1a1 down if this is going to be fair in any kind of way
where to complain, i refuse to keep supporting gaijin if the dead tanks makes sounds now.
YAY This is the BABY OPLOT
T-72 that wants to be T-80 lol
you still can 1 shot if no matter where you shot when it pens so its still meh apds is nothing crazy no thermal its a bit faster than turms but its still nothing crazy ngl
i mean russia 10.0 is too good, the backside of it is just the prem players and how Gaijin will fix that?? add another prem tank xDD
come on Gaijin
I wish we where alle to trade tanks
No thermal, no reverse speed, downgrade armor. justice 10.0
No thermal… Sad
Tbh the Turms is better
Are you kidding me? How is this thing good? It has NO THERMAL, shit turret traverse, no backspeed. HOW IS THIS TANK EVEN COMPARED TO TYPE 90?
yeah it is too low at 10.0...
put it at 10.3, why not ruin that br even more
They need to stop adding premium vehicles to Russia, 10.0 BR is already miserable to play with all the wallet warriors.
It's not a good tank, it has a bad reverse gear, bad armour ie it's the same to kill as every other Russian tank, so nothing special
not a russian, its a ukrainian tank btw
dosnt have thermals is garbage
Are they not free to use on dev server? Lmfao so dumb
You get a billion GE on dev server I think
@@ryguythesci-figuy81unfortunately not everyone can have it, such shame
@@eliveltonss4041 damn, just realized that when I logged onto it
@@ryguythesci-figuy81 I didnt get any I just played it todaay
@@PonelyPonely yeah just realized that
Slava Ukraini tank
Только вперёд - только в ангар😂
You are fast!
;)
@ProstoParen02 copied you’re video just so you know if you wna report him or anything he copies a lot of vids from TH-camrs so up to you
Hi, can you please give me the video title so I can have a look at that 🙏
Nvm I found what you mean 😭
@@armoured_potato yeah i hate ppl that do that stuff i am not a youtuber myself but i stil hate that stuff