a real good man on perfection !! thanks for sharing , all the methods you have demonstrated are good and above all is how much we can effort to spent , again thank you brilliant video !!!!
Great demo Geoff and thank you. Very clear, concise and well demonstrated processes which really will fast track those of us who don't do this professionally but need to get some jobs done at home. I'm about to build a bunch of built-ins for my wife and the kids and appreciate your time and effort. Only problem is - now there's another new Festool I just _have_ to buy! 🙂 Cheers from Sydney - Dave
Wow I've been looking for the PVC 1mm edging for so long. I always see IKEA edging which seem so much thicker than the normal melamine tape. I ask around everywhere but no one seems to have any idea about it. Thanks for this tip, I'm going to seek out the product!
That was a wicked video super informative, taught me a huge amount and has given me the confidence to make my first cupboard soon which im heapsss keen about. Also thanks for linking your gear in the description, I've just bought all of it to build my cupboard!
Thx for the clarifications between those 2 types of edge banding. I could not find any tutorial about the 1mm not pre-glue edging I bought. Eventually I don't have this glue at hand now, but what types of glue can we really use for this?
If you don't have the spray adhesive at hand, the other alternative is to use the contact glue which you can buy in various size tins. This will need to be applied by brush to both surfaces, waiting till touch dry, then sticking together carefully as seen on the video. If your from Aust, then here is a link: www.bunnings.com.au/selleys-1l-kwik-grip-horizontal-contact-adhesive_p1233581 Hope this helps:)
Great video. I like the look better of the PVC edging, how does it hold up with the spray glue, I'd imagine it probably lifts I'd it in an area above the stove or something?
If you purchase a good brand spray adhesive it should hold up well. Above a stove should be okay providing there isn't a constant build up of moisture say, from steam and the edges of the cabinet door are always dripping (that would be extreme and your exhaust fan is not doing it's job!)
I round the corners using a sanding block then wipe clean with edge cleaner. When edging doors for example it depends what is seen first as to weather I edge the long side or short side first. E.g. if the doors are exposed and you see the side of them then I would do the short side then the long side last so it covers and that’s the final surface you would see, if that makes sense.
Hi there, Thanks for Watching and for your feedback. I prefer to use the 300mm/12” planer blades as you can control them a lot easier and also because of the long length it runs flat along your material better giving you a more flush finish on each edge. As for using an iron edge on an inside curve, that may be difficult as the iron won’t run flat along it. You might be better of doing this with the 1mm edge tape and contact glue. Try heating the edge tape up with a heat gun or hair dryer to soften the edge tape (where the curve area is) this will make it more playable when going on around the inside corner. Make sure you use something flat to also press it in so you eliminate any gaps between the edge tape and the shelf edge. Keep watching thanks again
Put the iron on the highest setting, usually linen or cotton, so it’s HOT. As for the sand paper, obviously use a fine grade so you don’t rub through you newly created edge too quickly (say 240-320 Grit) good luck with your project
This is the best demo vid out there. Quick question about the chamfer tool. Would I be correct to assume that if I am applying 1mm edge banding that I would need to buy the 1mm chamfer tool?
Hi Geoff, just found your videos, so clear and informative; thank you for taking the time to mske. What are your thoughts on using a router table and flush cut bit for trimming the egde banding?
Thanks Michael for your support. Yes I think it’s a good idea using a router table (have you seen my table build?) hint, hint, you just have to make sure you get it set up perfect with a lot of trial runs. You can actually do a small round over for the edge which I have tried before works well. Good luck 😉👍
You could try but may not get as good results as the warm iron melts the glue on the under side as well as providing a flat surface helping to press down the edge tape. This principle is only good by the way for 0.5mm edge tape. If I were you I would stick to the iron, trust me...Good luck and thanks for watching. 👍
Im trying to use 1mm pre glued PVC tape and the iron just doesn't seem to make it stick. The heat gun works better but still has areas where the bond isn't great. Is pre glued not ideal for particle board?
No for 1-2mm edging I always use a contact glue method were I prepare both surfaces with the glue, wait till touch dry then apply. I only use 0.5mm pre-glued with an iron otherwise the whole process gets time consuming
That's very informative! I do have a question though. We have some unpained mdf cabinet doors. I want to paint the fronts and apply the iron-on tape onto the sides. Which would I do first? I have a feeling that if I painted the fronts first, the cutter would scratch the paint off
Hi Michael Yes I would definitely edge first then paint, you would probably see a colour difference also if you didn’t when opening the doors…something else to consider 👍
Thanks for your support, glad you liked the video :) I have copied all of the links to the main tools used from the video for you, enjoy... Links: Planer/Jointer Knife Blade: www.amanatool.com/p-731-hss-t-1-18-percent-tungsten-300mm-long-x-35mm-height-x-3mm-wide-x-45-deg-cut-angle.html Ceramic Type Edge Trimmer: www.ebay.com.au/itm/173410028420?chn=ps&_ul=AU&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1XefgpHG-ShqT5UdKNJ7Kng63&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=173410028420&targetid=&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9071737&poi=&campaignid=15984321586&mkgroupid=&rlsatarget=&abcId=9300814&merchantid=494541057&gclid=CjwKCAiAwc-dBhA7EiwAxPRylDXhqUXvk5f5pbYoOxbRENr7_xGhBzYbbPtlQxKLrfER9d2G2FE7tBoCP5gQAvD_BwE End Trimmer Cut-Off Tool: www.carbatec.com.au/end-trimmer?CAWELAID=120414540000002545&gclid=CjwKCAiAwc-dBhA7EiwAxPRylMGfYV2icJfja-c4ci2aSBRbzNfanlV6Oa9ahvMH7RPf7uYOpw_SgxoCCYwQAvD_BwE
Hi there, I haven’t had to fuss to much in regards to cleaning it, the roller mainly gets strings of glue on it which can easily be peeled off. The beauty of this machine and the glue puck system is it only heats up what it needs not like the cheaper Chinese versions which take small glue pellets. With those type of systems they have a glue pot set up which heats up and cools down when your finished with the machine. That’s the main issue with those type and why you eventually get crusty bits from the burnt or dried out glue in the pot which turned me off. I am not sponsored in any way by Festool but I am happy with this machine, it’s one of those “buy once, cry once” puchases! Cheers thanks for Watching
Hi Glyn, I ended up buying mine from an online American tool supplier called "Tools Today" and the link is: www.toolstoday.com/global/v-14149-p-731.html You can also get them through "Carbitool" in Australia but they are much more expensive, see also link below: www.carbitool.com.au/?s=planer+blade&post_type=product Hope this helps :)
I have left a link for the blades which you can easily purchase through my affiliate links on Amazon: amzn.to/3HrYktW Good luck, hope this helps and thanks for watching
Melamine board will generally come in max thickness of around 34mm (usually used for benchtop substrate) and the edging machine has a capacity of around 60mm
Excellent demo bro
Excellent video, very straight forward mate thankyou
Great video and very helpful. Thanks Geoff
a real good man on perfection !! thanks for sharing , all the methods you have demonstrated are good and above all is how much we can effort to spent , again thank you brilliant video !!!!
Thanks for your support 👍
Really appreciate this, as I knew there must be something better than that thin, brittle .5 mm pre glued stuff. Very nice!
Thanks for your support 👍
Great demo Geoff and thank you. Very clear, concise and well demonstrated processes which really will fast track those of us who don't do this professionally but need to get some jobs done at home. I'm about to build a bunch of built-ins for my wife and the kids and appreciate your time and effort. Only problem is - now there's another new Festool I just _have_ to buy! 🙂 Cheers from Sydney - Dave
Good on you Dave, think of it this way, "buy once, cry once" hahaha (I am not sponsored by them but wish I was!) 👍
Using the planer blade to trim the edging was a great idea, it worked a treat for me. Cheers :)
I am glad this video helped, stay tuned for more tips & tricks :)
Very informative and
easy to follow video. Great effort.
Thanks, that’s very kind of you, keep following…😊
Wow I've been looking for the PVC 1mm edging for so long. I always see IKEA edging which seem so much thicker than the normal melamine tape. I ask around everywhere but no one seems to have any idea about it. Thanks for this tip, I'm going to seek out the product!
WOW! Super and detailed demo. 👍
Such a nice video, by the book! Thanks!
Your welcome, thanks for your support 😄
Great video thanks for that 👍
Your welcome :)
Excellent video thanks
A really helpful video, complete with tooling links. Many thanks for the thought and effort obviously put in. Much appreciated.
Thank you your welcome 👍
Great video！
That was a wicked video super informative, taught me a huge amount and has given me the confidence to make my first cupboard soon which im heapsss keen about. Also thanks for linking your gear in the description, I've just bought all of it to build my cupboard!
Thanks so much for your great feedback. I am glad this video helped you, thanks again for your support 👍😁
Thanks mate great vid!
Thanks for the video. Super helpful overview.
Your welcome good to hear
Thx for the clarifications between those 2 types of edge banding. I could not find any tutorial about the 1mm not pre-glue edging I bought. Eventually I don't have this glue at hand now, but what types of glue can we really use for this?
If you don't have the spray adhesive at hand, the other alternative is to use the contact glue which you can buy in various size tins. This will need to be applied by brush to both surfaces, waiting till touch dry, then sticking together carefully as seen on the video. If your from Aust, then here is a link:
www.bunnings.com.au/selleys-1l-kwik-grip-horizontal-contact-adhesive_p1233581
Hope this helps:)
Great video. I like the look better of the PVC edging, how does it hold up with the spray glue, I'd imagine it probably lifts I'd it in an area above the stove or something?
If you purchase a good brand spray adhesive it should hold up well. Above a stove should be okay providing there isn't a constant build up of moisture say, from steam and the edges of the cabinet door are always dripping (that would be extreme and your exhaust fan is not doing it's job!)
Great video Geoff. Could I ask how you detail the corners? Does it matter which edge u do first? For example for cabinet doors?
I round the corners using a sanding block then wipe clean with edge cleaner. When edging doors for example it depends what is seen first as to weather I edge the long side or short side first. E.g. if the doors are exposed and you see the side of them then I would do the short side then the long side last so it covers and that’s the final surface you would see, if that makes sense.
@@geoffsjoinery4990 makes perfect sense!! Thanks Geoff
Grenat vidéo ty
Fantastic and so helpful thank you. Can you use any planer blade? And how do you work with iron on edge tape with the inside curve of a pantry?
Hi there,
Thanks for Watching and for your feedback. I prefer to use the 300mm/12” planer blades as you can control them a lot easier and also because of the long length it runs flat along your material better giving you a more flush finish on each edge. As for using an iron edge on an inside curve, that may be difficult as the iron won’t run flat along it. You might be better of doing this with the 1mm edge tape and contact glue. Try heating the edge tape up with a heat gun or hair dryer to soften the edge tape (where the curve area is) this will make it more playable when going on around the inside corner. Make sure you use something flat to also press it in so you eliminate any gaps between the edge tape and the shelf edge.
Keep watching thanks again
Good vid, but would have been helpful to know what setting for the iron, and what grade sandpaper
Put the iron on the highest setting, usually linen or cotton, so it’s HOT. As for the sand paper, obviously use a fine grade so you don’t rub through you newly created edge too quickly (say 240-320 Grit) good luck with your project
@@geoffsjoinery4990 Thanks so much Geoff. You're a star!
This is the best demo vid out there. Quick question about the chamfer tool. Would I be correct to assume that if I am applying 1mm edge banding that I would need to buy the 1mm chamfer tool?
With the chamfer tool, the 1mm/0.6mm is referring to the size of chamfer it’s going to produce.
Thanks for watching and good luck 👍
@@geoffsjoinery4990 Thanks Geoff
Hi Geoff, just found your videos, so clear and informative; thank you for taking the time to mske. What are your thoughts on using a router table and flush cut bit for trimming the egde banding?
Thanks Michael for your support. Yes I think it’s a good idea using a router table (have you seen my table build?) hint, hint, you just have to make sure you get it set up perfect with a lot of trial runs. You can actually do a small round over for the edge which I have tried before works well. Good luck 😉👍
Very helpful thanks! You reckon a heat gun and roller would work ok in place of an iron?
You could try but may not get as good results as the warm iron melts the glue on the under side as well as providing a flat surface helping to press down the edge tape. This principle is only good by the way for 0.5mm edge tape. If I were you I would stick to the iron, trust me...Good luck and thanks for watching. 👍
Im trying to use 1mm pre glued PVC tape and the iron just doesn't seem to make it stick. The heat gun works better but still has areas where the bond isn't great. Is pre glued not ideal for particle board?
No for 1-2mm edging I always use a contact glue method were I prepare both surfaces with the glue, wait till touch dry then apply. I only use 0.5mm pre-glued with an iron otherwise the whole process gets time consuming
That's very informative! I do have a question though. We have some unpained mdf cabinet doors. I want to paint the fronts and apply the iron-on tape onto the sides. Which would I do first? I have a feeling that if I painted the fronts first, the cutter would scratch the paint off
Hi Michael
Yes I would definitely edge first then paint, you would probably see a colour difference also if you didn’t when opening the doors…something else to consider 👍
Hi, Great vids. Can you let me know where I can buy the Knife from also the other item you used after you used the Knife. Cheers! UK
Thanks for your support, glad you liked the video :)
I have copied all of the links to the main tools used from the video for you, enjoy...
Links:
Planer/Jointer Knife Blade:
www.amanatool.com/p-731-hss-t-1-18-percent-tungsten-300mm-long-x-35mm-height-x-3mm-wide-x-45-deg-cut-angle.html
Ceramic Type Edge Trimmer:
www.ebay.com.au/itm/173410028420?chn=ps&_ul=AU&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1XefgpHG-ShqT5UdKNJ7Kng63&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=173410028420&targetid=&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9071737&poi=&campaignid=15984321586&mkgroupid=&rlsatarget=&abcId=9300814&merchantid=494541057&gclid=CjwKCAiAwc-dBhA7EiwAxPRylDXhqUXvk5f5pbYoOxbRENr7_xGhBzYbbPtlQxKLrfER9d2G2FE7tBoCP5gQAvD_BwE
End Trimmer Cut-Off Tool:
www.carbatec.com.au/end-trimmer?CAWELAID=120414540000002545&gclid=CjwKCAiAwc-dBhA7EiwAxPRylMGfYV2icJfja-c4ci2aSBRbzNfanlV6Oa9ahvMH7RPf7uYOpw_SgxoCCYwQAvD_BwE
@@geoffsjoinery4990 Niceone, Thanks 😀👍
What is your routine for cleaning the conturo?
Hi there,
I haven’t had to fuss to much in regards to cleaning it, the roller mainly gets strings of glue on it which can easily be peeled off. The beauty of this machine and the glue puck system is it only heats up what it needs not like the cheaper Chinese versions which take small glue pellets. With those type of systems they have a glue pot set up which heats up and cools down when your finished with the machine. That’s the main issue with those type and why you eventually get crusty bits from the burnt or dried out glue in the pot which turned me off. I am not sponsored in any way by Festool but I am happy with this machine, it’s one of those “buy once, cry once” puchases!
Cheers thanks for Watching
Where do I get the large blade you are using to trim the banding ... don't seem to be able to find one anywhere ? thanks in advance :)
Hi Glyn,
I ended up buying mine from an online American tool supplier called "Tools Today" and the link is:
www.toolstoday.com/global/v-14149-p-731.html
You can also get them through "Carbitool" in Australia but they are much more expensive, see also link below:
www.carbitool.com.au/?s=planer+blade&post_type=product
Hope this helps :)
You use a 'Joiners knife' to finish the edging, I can't see anywhere to buy these from?
I have left a link for the blades which you can easily purchase through my affiliate links on Amazon:
amzn.to/3HrYktW
Good luck, hope this helps and thanks for watching
@@geoffsjoinery4990 Thanks!
Nice.what is the biggest size of melamine board in thickness
Melamine board will generally come in max thickness of around 34mm (usually used for benchtop substrate) and the edging machine has a capacity of around 60mm
Can we paint the melamine edge?
Yes why not, but seeing it is plastic you will need to lightly sand it back and prepare it for whatever coating you want to use
Good luck 🤞
The thing is as far as I'm aware you cannot iron on 2mm edging and 2mm looks way nicer than 1mm
Can this be painted?
I guess if you want too, you may have issues with the paint sticking properly on PVC/Plastic...
Umm, get an edge bander. Biesse Akron to be specific. That is how I edge band. Bahahahahahaha.XD
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Great video and very helpful. Thanks Geoff
Thanks for watching and your support 👍